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Nov. 9, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 9, 2005, Wednesday, Hour #3
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Uh forgive me a moment here, folks.
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Fitzgerald ignored witnesses who contradicted Wilson.
Special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's leak gate investigation is coming unraveled as witness after witness steps forward to challenge a key premise of his controversial investigation.
Was the identity of Joseph Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, really a deep, dark secret before she was outed by columnist Robert Novak in July 2003?
The number of witnesses saying no has now climbed four, and none of those witnesses have apparently been interviewed by the investigator Sir Patrick Fitzgerald.
On Tuesday, Wayne Simmons, a 27-year veteran of the CIA, told Fox News, as most people know now, Valerie Plame was traped all over Washington many years ago by Joe Wilson and introduced at embassies and other parties as quote, my CIA wife, unquote.
Last week, Major General Paul Vallelli.
Valilee, sorry, Paul Valilee, told ABC Radio's John Bachelor that during a 2002 conversation with Wilson while the two waited to appear on a TV show.
Wilson casually mentioned that his wife worked at the agency.
In October 2003, NBC's diplomatic correspondent Andrea Mitchell told CNBC that Plaim's occupation, quote, was widely known among those of us who cover the intelligence community and who were actively engaged in trying to track down who among the foreign service community was the envoy to Niger.
Andrea Mitchell said, so a number of us began to pick up on that.
And in September of 2003, National Review Online's Cliff May wrote that when Plaim's CIA connection was mentioned in Novak's column.
This wasn't news to me.
I had been told that Plame was CIA, but not by anybody working in the White House.
I learned it from someone who formerly worked in the government, and he mentioned it in an offhand manner, leading me to infer it was something that insiders were well aware of.
The day his report appeared, Cliff May told Fox News Channel's John Gibson, I knew this.
A lot of other people knew it.
In fact, rumors now swirl around Washington that Plame used to take her friends to lunch at the CIA's cafeteria.
So, what has Mr. Fitzgerald done with the avalanche of testimony that contradicts his stated claim that Plame's job was not widely known?
Well, apparently nothing.
In the six days since he's gone public.
General Valilee says prosecutors have yet to contact him.
He was on Hannity and Combs last night.
And uh Colmes said to him, Did Ambassador Joe Wilson expose his wife himself?
That's exactly what our next guest says.
Joining us now in exclusive interview that you're not going to see any place else.
Fox News military analyst and retired Major General Paul Valilee, who says that Wilson told him that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent in 2002.
General, where did this happen?
Joe Wilson and I met uh in uh Washington in the uh green room of the uh Bureau there for Fox.
Uh met several times uh uh in 2002, and as we talked uh about our families, uh he did not say that she uh was an agent, only that she was employed by the agency.
And uh, as we since learned, uh she is in fact and has been an analyst in Washington Washington for a number of years.
So uh that uh that basically is how we met and how we discussed that.
So Joe Wilson's telling people Cliff May didn't tell Reveal his source, but he says I've I knew who she was when uh I knew she was CIA when uh when uh saw Novak's column.
Andrea Mitchell said she knew who it was.
Uh and Wayne Simmons, uh, the new guy on the scene here, 27-year veteran of the CIA, said to Fox News, as most people now know, Plame was traped all over Washington many years ago by her husband and introduced at embassies and other parties as quote unquote my CIA wife.
You know, this I thought this was really strange.
Well, you remember the week of uh special counsel uh Fitzgerald's uh uh uh press conference, which is a Friday, on I guess it was the Monday or Tuesday of that week, he was sending investigators FBI into the into the Wilson neighborhood and asking neighbors, did you know that uh Valerie uh Wilson down the street?
There's a CIA.
Oh no, he knew nothing about it.
And I remember thinking this is an odd time after to be doing all this after two years of the investigation when this was the focus of it.
Original focus was who outed this brave, courageous uh covert agent whose life has been destroyed.
Uh and to be going around the neighborhood asking this uh at that point, two years after the investigation began, was somewhat curious.
Then you learn that Wilson wasn't called to testify.
None of these other people have been have been asked to testify uh before the grand jury.
Now, clearly what's gonna happen here is that uh Scooter Libby's defense team.
I'm sure they've got this dossier already, already already loaded, and and uh and and you got witnesses here that are gonna be called.
I mean, this is gonna go right to the whole notion of whether she was covert or not.
All the whole notion of how she could have been outed when she already was.
And so um uh it it's it's that's gonna be fireworks time.
It's gonna be fascinating to watch this.
All right, let's move on to other audio sound bites.
Let's go to audio soundbite 13 and uh well, it's 13 through 15.
Because Terrell Owens, TO, went outside his Mooresville, New Jersey home and issued an apology yesterday, and this one sounded genuine.
Uh, and he apologized to all the people he should have apologized to over the weekend.
And he did so in an effort to uh get back in the good graces of the Eagles.
So the Eagles would put him back on the uh on a team.
But the Eagles put out a statement saying, sorry, too late, too little, uh, and uh we're not having it.
Now, I you know, I've often had this theory out there that no matter what crime you commit, all you gotta do is go in there and say you're sorry.
Express some remorse.
And for the most part, you will melt hearts, and you will soften resistance.
Oh, look, he's sorry.
He said he was sorry.
He's not a bad guy.
We got to bring him back.
We can't we can't punish him as bad as he said he's sorry, he's remorseful.
This case it didn't work.
And this giv uh well that's Brian points out something very, very crucial is normally when you express remorse, you have to cry.
If you just express remorse without crying, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't generally work.
And Owens didn't cry yesterday.
Owens did a tearful, non-tearful, heartfelt apology, but there were no tears.
Had he cried, never know.
I kind of doubt it.
I think eagles are fed up.
But uh when we come back, we'll play you just a little portion of uh of Owen's apology and then his agent, uh Drew Rosenhaus, a couple bites, and then an interesting comment from Donovan McNabb's father.
Quick time out after all this.
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Uh ladies and gentlemen.
But first, here is just a portion, a brief portion of Terrell Owen's apology, which the Eagles and the media have flatly rejected.
Uh well, I I wish we had more of this, actually, because he went on and on, but this is the nut of it.
Here it is.
To those fans that supported me through these tough times, I thank you for your support.
To every single Philadelphia Eagles fan out there that cheer from me, I want you to know that I'm sorry this has happened.
To you, I apologize.
He went on to apologize to McNabb personally.
He apologized.
He mentioned Andy Reed and Joe Banner, uh uh, the uh general manager of the team, Jeff Lury, the owner of the uh of the Eagles.
But what was The the great thing about being able to hear more of this is it's about him.
He still can't make this.
He's I'm not gonna be able to play anymore.
I'm not gonna be able to help my team go to the Super Bowl.
I'm not gonna help my team get to the end zone.
I'm not gonna help my team get to the pregame meal.
I'm not gonna be able to help my team.
I'm not gonna be, I'm not, I'm not, I can't, I want, I'm sorry.
It's still all about him.
Because, hey, you know what?
I'm a fighter, and I'm not gonna change, and I'm gonna believe in doing what I think is right, which I've always done.
I've always done what I think is right, and I'm gonna keep doing what I think is right.
So uh but it it was just so me, me, me, and I. Uh or it's like Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton, Rosa Parks Field, hey, you know what?
Rosa Parks got nothing on me when I was a nine-year-old, even there weren't there weren't any public buses in my town.
I still made sure I went to the back of the bus when I found out she was not being led to the front of bus, whatever.
It's all about him.
You know, d I could have helped.
I could have helped, folks.
I have learned a lot in the last three years.
I could have helped this uh this situation.
The problem is nobody's got the guts to talk to an athlete the right way.
Everybody coddles them.
I'm saying this agent, I'm sure, came out.
Don't worry, Terrell, I'm gonna get the money from him.
I know how to play these guys.
They can't do without you.
You got them all the way to the Super Bowl, and they almost won it because of you.
Hey, can't nothing gonna let you go.
Nothing, nothing's gonna you just keep.
And they didn't know who they're dealing with in Andy Reed.
They did not know who they're dealing with in Andy Reid.
Some coaches about a buckled, but nevertheless, uh you can't coddle these people.
You gotta get them in the real world.
They haven't been in the real world since the first day they illustrated above average or superior talent.
These people get coddled from the youngest ages.
You I mean, they become prodigies, as you know.
Uh and so this is this is the first time that the the reality has.
I mean, Owens, you know, runs himself out of San Francisco, his agent screws up in filing the paperwork that would allow him to become a free agent, so he's locked into San Francisco.
The leagues, okay, we'll let you out.
They don't want him unhappy in San Francisco.
It's bad television, it's bad everything else.
So then he says, uh the the 49ers said, We're gonna trade you to Baltimore.
I'm not going to Baltimore.
I have no desire to go to Baltimore.
I don't have a quarterback at Baldwin.
I'm not playing in Baltimore.
So the Ford, okay, okay.
The Eagles.
He goes over, meets McNabb at the Pro Bowl.
McNabb and he get together.
McNabb lobbies Reed to bring Owens in.
McNabb's a reason Owens is there.
McNabb went to Dandy Reese.
We can make music together.
This guy can catch passes I can throw as a premier receiver, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he just ends up stabbing everybody in the back that ever did anything for him.
I mean, and but the league went over backwards, didn't hold him to the rules of the league a couple times.
How many, how many players get traded to I am not going?
I am not going.
Some do, some do, but that's my point.
They get coddled, then the better they are, the more they get away with it now.
Here's the agent.
This is uh Drew Rosenhouse after T.O. has, without tears, but very sincere, it was I thought it was a moving apology.
Here's what the agent agent said.
Terrell's received a lot of criticism, in my opinion, unfairly.
He agreed with the statement.
He did not come out and try and offend anyone.
He agreed with the comment.
He was asked if he agreed with the statement.
He said, I agree.
There was no intent.
There was no malicious intent.
Terrell's goal this year was to win a Super Bowl as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Stop.
His goal was to get traded from the first day of training camp because he was unhappy with a contract he himself signed one year ago.
He wanted to get traded or he wanted to get a new contract.
That's what it was me, me, me, me, me.
Wavered.
That's his goal.
He hopes to do that.
This is very unfortunate that he's been sidetracked.
But hopefully you'll all help us get back on track.
Because the bottom line is, the bottom line is I don't believe the media's been fair to him.
There are players in the NFL who are arrested who violate the program when it comes to drugs or substance abuse, and they are not punished as seriously as he has been.
There are players who do not get criticized as heavily by the media who do very significant things.
He hasn't broken any laws.
He hasn't broken any rules.
Well, uh, didn't follow the directions of his coach.
But you know, this that's kind of a it that that's that's a baby's defense.
Well, other people get away with more.
Well, that's not the way it works.
You know, you're not judging what other people do.
Uh adults learn that early in life.
You learn that there are things bigger than yourself, and you learn that to defend yourself against certain charges, you don't bring other people in.
Uh, and there's not fair, it's not fair, it's not fair, because that's not reality.
Reality isn't fair, life isn't fair, circumstances are what you have, and uh you play the hand that's dealt you, and and uh so these people are still caught up in childishness.
Rosenhaus, we don't have this on tape either.
Rosenhaus went on, it was asked all kinds of questions.
He wouldn't answer.
Next question.
Uh Mr. Rosenhaus says uh Terrell Long's next question, Mr. Rosenhaus' term.
Next about twelve of those.
Twelve, never answering this next question, refusing to answer this one more bite from Rosenhouse.
I believe the media's not been fair for him either.
I I wouldn't want to talk to them.
If I were in his position here the way the people have ripped him.
He is a competitor.
He is a great competitor.
He gave up potentially his career to compete in the Super Bowl.
He did that as a member of the team.
He did that for the Eagles for the fans, and now he's getting ripped, called selfish.
This is not about him being selfish.
He's a genuine, honest person.
He never intended to offend anybody at any time.
Uh I d none of this washes.
I'm just I'm sorry I'm sorry, folks.
None of this washes.
He's been Terrell Owens, in fact, is who he is because the media has coddled him.
The media has made him bigger than life.
The media has rewarded his stunts, the autograph after a touchdown with a sharpie on a football or whatever.
All these dances in the end zone.
They put him on ESPN in the highlight reel, and they've made him bigger than life.
They've encouraged his actions.
They've inspired him to keep going more and more over the line, becoming more and more outrageous.
They are exactly complicit in this.
I mean, it's one of the one of the big problems.
And then, of course, at some point, as the media is wont to do, they will turn on anybody after they build them up and make them huge.
At some point, the media will be offended at this outrageous behavior.
Well, hey, who's been promoting it all these years?
Who's been making this guy bigger than life all these years?
It's like Bill Clinton.
The mainstream media builds this guy up.
He's the greatest liar in the world.
Hey, you know, I can keep doing it.
They love it.
Bill Clinton, biggest horn dog in the world.
Why this guy's got women flocking?
Hey, that just gives me license to keep going out there and playing with women.
Media loves it.
It's not a big mystery here, but here's this is this is to me very interesting.
There's a story here on the Fox Sports.com website.
Donovan McNabb's father is relieved that Terrell Owens probably won't play for the Eagles again.
And you read it and all makes sense.
You get down to the last two paragraphs.
As for Owens, McNabb said the wide receiver's criticism of his son stung him not as a father, but as a black man.
McNabb's name Sam McNabb, Donovan's dad, Sam McNabb, said that the wide receiver's criticism, Owen's criticism of his son Donovan stung him not as a father, but as a black man.
He's what he said.
Within the last month, we have seen a man, Donovan McNabb, who is trying to accomplish something very difficult to be an African American quarterback at the top of his game.
Attacked by someone of his own race, Sam McNabb said.
That's what really amazes me.
It's like another black-on-black crime.
Those are hurts that create scars that take a long time to heal.
Okay, so apparently Owens uh could have said this if he was white.
Well, no, we know that doesn't work.
Uh and it's difficult to be an African American quarterback in the in the NFL.
Uh didn't know you could say that.
And it's it really it really hurts Sam McNabb that the criticism is not the criticism, but that it's coming from a black guy.
It's like black on black crime.
So where's the solidarity here?
So there you have it.
I mean, It's it's a situation.
They're gonna clean it up.
It's it's been it's been repaired, uh, and the uh Eagles will move on with it.
I think Andy Reid had no choice but then to do this quick call here, uh bab but uh but uh don't have I don't have time.
I don't have time.
Uh I've only got thirty seconds, and that's unfair to a caller who, by uh definition, is a rank amateur.
I, as a highly seized and highly seasoned and highly trained broadcast specialist, could of course say whatever I want to say in thirty seconds.
But it's a bit much to ask a caller to do that.
So we'll uh I got two callers that want to talk about this uh 49er or this uh Eagles thing in Terrell Owens and a lot other people that want to talk about other things.
Sit tight, we'll come back and continue with all the rest of it.
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Right, cookie got the uh the part of the Owens apology I was talking about the me, me, me portion.
I I haven't seen the transcript of it, but uh just over a minute, and and this is I think this is before I guess the apology.
This is how sorry he feels for himself.
I would like to re reiterate my respect for Donovan McNabb as a quarterback as a and as a teammate.
I apologize to him for any comments that have that may have been negative.
To my head coach, Andy Reid, I owe you an apology.
You and I were in a tough spot this year.
I know you were just trying to coach this team, and we did not see eye to eye sometimes.
But on the practice field and on game day, you knew you could count on me to give my very best.
We had a lot of wins together, and I thank you for that.
I respect you as a coach and as a person.
To Joe Banner and Mr. Lurie.
Understand that all along you were trying to do what you believe in the best interest for the team.
The Philadelphia Eagles.
I'll apologize to the both of you.
As I said before, this is very painful for me to be in this position.
I know in my heart that I can help this team win the Super Bowl, and not only being a dominant player, but also being a team player.
I can bring that.
In closing, I want everyone to know that football is my passion.
I've always given it in my all, and I will continue to do so.
All right, say a little bit of both there.
You got the uh mention of the names of the people he's apologizing to, so he got direct apologies, but then you know, back to you know, it's my passion, it's what I want to do.
Uh I'm ready to come back as a dominant player and as a team player.
Here's uh Israel in Gainesville, Florida.
You're up next, sir.
Welcome to the program.
Hey Rush, greetings from a blue county and a red state.
Thank you, sir.
Nice to have you with us.
You know, I would have rather have called to uh complain about the left-wing uh liberal media or some other thing.
I I sometimes I haven't been able to get through to your show, but um I don't want to say that you're exactly missing an opportunity here, but I think it is an opportunity to show how the media is biased and how it's unfair in its treatment.
I mean, the the press conference that Rosenhaus was giving was for the media.
He wasn't necessarily addressing himself, you know, I guess to everybody, so to speak, when he was answering those questions.
It was media questions.
And he was telling them they've been unfair with Tiama.
So how can they come now and ask these questions and make all these allegations?
And they don't treat all the athletes the same way.
I mean, look what happened with Kobe.
He didn't he didn't get grilled by the media, they were trying to defend him.
Whether it was true or not, even before the trial was over.
And you mean you put on the list, whether they're beating up their wives, whether they're taking you know performance.
Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a second.
I'm gonna come back to Kobe the same way.
No, wait, wait, I'll you can you can do that when you come to Kobe, there's a legal case.
His lawyers aren't gonna let him say anything.
Anything he says could be used, but no, no, that Kobe.
I mean the media.
I think the media coverage of what happened and how they reported it, as opposed to what they're doing with TO.
And let's be honest.
TO agreed with a statement, a comment that uh Irving made.
And I mean, even with what you went through at the ESPN, I thought you would have come out and said, look, you know, the media does report what they want.
I mean, and and they and they say it the way they want it to be.
He hasn't broken any edge.
Let's go point by point here.
You know, you can y I don't know if uh you blaming Michael Irvin.
I mean Michael.
Okay, Michael Michael Irvin.
Michael Irvin's interviewing Owens.
Owens apparently will really only talk to Michael Irvin at E SPN.
So Irvin says, I think the Packers uh the the Eagles would be better off and Brad Farr.
Uh That's what I think.
And Owens, who's already on record as having dissed McNabb over and over again, agrees with him.
And then at the press conference.
Oh, well, he would just agree.
He didn't make a statement.
He was just agreeing.
He would just agree with someone.
I mean, I can agree with that.
I mean, besides, what he what he initially said about McNabb was showing me.
What's the difference?
He got tired and got winded or whatever.
Sorry about the phone situation, sir.
These people can't hear me when I'm talking.
If if if you have if you're agreeing with the opinion, what's what w what's the difference in agreeing and agreeing with the opinion?
It's the same thing.
Well, isn't McNabb bigger than that?
I mean, isn't he secure enough in himself to say, okay, well, that's T.O.'s opinion.
You know, go play for the Packers.
I mean, it's just that it's kind of odd that all this thing has been blown up the way it's been blown up because of something that he's been saying, or, you know, him wanting to renegotiate his contract, and when there's millions of dollars going all the way around.
I mean, the bottom line.
But it's not like he, you know, committed a crime, went to a nightclub and stabbed somebody or shot somebody, or was caught with drugs.
I mean, is that that way you can say T.O.'s been an upstanding guy.
That's the truth.
You don't hear about those kind of scandals with him.
All he brings on himself, and I'm and I'm agreeing that he does bring this on himself, is all the controversy with the stunts he does in the end zone and everything he talks and says.
But the media is being a little based on a little too much.
Wait a minute.
Don't misunderstand my point about that.
And I I think I think, and you're speaking pretty quickly, uh, it's tough for me to follow you, and it and our transcription is about two sentences behind you.
So I'm not sure I'm catching everything you're saying.
It's not your fault.
Don't don't misunderstand.
It's just uh but uh let's see if I got the basic premise.
You think the media has been grossly unfair to Owens, as opposed to giving other coddled athletes far more beneficial treatment when in fact some of those athletes have broken the law, have been charged criminally, and uh uh some convicted, where Owens is is a model citizen in that regard, he's just rather flamboyant on the field and off.
And so you think there's some uh uh treatment here that is what unequal.
Right.
Well, and and you know what?
I agree one hundred percent that he's been wrong.
I agreed in the in the team having suspended him, and maybe it was a little excessive, I don't know.
But the media, as far as the media is concerned, I mean, you know, Phil Jackson in 1999 made a statement about how you're not gonna get an argument from me about that.
I uh at all, uh be it in the sports media or anywhere else, there's certain chosen subjects that are gonna be get given kid glove treatment, no matter who they are, no matter what they do.
Uh well, no, it does matter who they are, and it and it does matter uh what they do.
Uh uh but in in this case, for the longest time the media did coddle Owens.
For the longest time, the media see I I think the media is partially responsible for the way he behaves.
I think these no, wait a second now.
Wait a second now.
Have you been around professional athletes in your life?
Have you worked with them?
No, not personally.
I have.
And I could tell you stories, and it this is this is not an indictment of them.
I'm just telling you that when a pr the the people that are qualified to play professional sports, football, baseball in this country, are so rare.
I mean, the re there's a reason there aren't a thousand teams.
It's because you don't have that many people who can play at this level.
So when these people, when these athletes display the ability, it's going to take them as far as college or professional athletics, they are cobbled and they become sheltered from the normal, growing and maturing aspects of life during a period of life where you learn those things.
They are not forced to wait a minute, now let me finish it.
They'll not they're not forced to grow up, they're not forced to handle things for themselves, they're not forced to be mature.
They are allowed to get away with this because their talent is so rare.
In addition to that, they have hero worship from the fans.
All of this endorses and encourages this kind of behavior.
Now, some of them are different.
They're not all this way.
They're they're all individuals like we all are, and they all have differences, but there are some there's some there's some character types here that I have found quite common, and there are exceptions to it, of course.
But my point is this when you have Owens doing these flamboyant things, and the media getting their jollies off because it's great television and encouraging more of it by by essentially giving him wider and more positive coverage every time he does it.
Yeah, you'll have some discussion groups talk about how I think this is bad and this is good, but the as I recall the Sharpie incident and all this other even professional football, uh like this.
Adding more fun to the game.
Football's a little stale, this is all good stuff.
Well, Owens watches these shows.
He sees what the effect he's having is, and he likes the attention.
That's what part of part of being a professional athlete's all about.
You love being on stage, you like the attention.
You do what it takes to get it once you learn what you do that gets it.
And and then after a while, they're gonna turn on you like they did on him.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah, I see that as them giving him rope to hang them with later on.
Oh, you think they do it on purpose?
Yeah, they don't they don't, you know, maybe they like you said, they coddle him for a while and then suddenly they turn on him.
When it's when it's played out and it's gonna be a bigger story to to crucify him, that's what they do.
And it's and it's and I know the whole thing with T.O. and I'm not saying that I'm an apologist for him.
Uh but it's just when you read some of these, you know, articles and some of these columns, the way that they're going after him.
It's like it's personal with the reporters.
It is.
It most certainly is personal.
I've been there.
If he would have criticized the center, Hank Fraley, nobody would have cared.
He wouldn't have been penalized, the Eagles wouldn't have been upset about it.
Fraley and he would have settled it sometime after practice that have patched up the blood band-aids.
But he attacked McNabb, and McNabb is been inoculated.
You don't criticize McNabb in Philadelphia.
You don't criticize McNabb in the media.
You don't criticize McNabb on that team.
You do not do it.
That was his he targeted McNabb blaming McNabb.
I'll tell you when this started is after the Super Bowl, when he got on McNabb for for for being tired and not being in shape.
Right.
That's after the season.
That's that's when this all started.
That's that's when it all then he got greedy and wanted his money uh renegotiated, even though I just agreed to it a year ago.
Uh then you got a the agent getting involved in this.
These guys, you know, they're not innocent in any of this either.
Uh but but and and I I'll tell you something.
This is you know, something nobody's talking about in this, and I I I'm just I'm just gonna take a wild guess.
But if you remember the two things, uh Owens got upset when he broke his leg in the game against Cowboys last November.
He got upset when McNabb and the rest of the Eagles, well it's all right, we can win this without T.O. because okay, that's what they've got to say.
Mm Owens wanted to say, oh no, TO's out, oh my god, oh no, our chances all we can do is hope to win this for TO.
This is the baby in him.
He wants to be the focus even when he's not there.
He wants the team to think they may not win with him not there.
Then they go ahead and do it.
That's why he wanted to get back on the field for the Super Bowl.
Then this is the real thing, folks.
If uh then nobody's talking about this that I've seen or heard.
I'm sure there are people at Philadelphia talking about it, but I'm not there and I don't know it.
But this fight that he had with Hugh Douglas last week in the locker room in the training room, do you know what precipitated that?
Douglas walked in there and he said, I know for and and Owens is in a training room, I know for a fact that there are people faking injuries in this lock in his training room.
Well, you remember after the Denver game, Owens announced that he was out for the coming two weeks.
He had sprained his ankle.
Well, nobody had seen any evidence of that injury post-game after it had supposedly it occurred, and clearly some people thought he was faking the injury.
Now, I'm gonna tell you something in a professional locker room, with those guys in football getting beat up to a pulp every week, with guys genuinely and legitimately hurt.
If they do think somebody's faking an injury, that can break the bond more than the criticism of the quarterback or anything else.
I will lay you a dollar to a donut.
That what really set this going and made this course irreversible was the thought that Owens was faking that injury simply to get attention to himself or to harm the team, or because he was still upset that he wasn't being thrown the ball enough or credited enough for their success or what have you.
Mark my words.
We'll back uh be back after this, Israel.
Thanks for the call.
Stay with us, folks.
All right, to Philadelphia and uh John, you're next on the EIB network.
Welcome.
Nice to have you with us.
Thank you, Rush Ditto's.
Uh I would just like to say I don't I McNabb is not inoculated from the fans in Philly, that's for sure.
Uh no athlete in Philadelphia is inoculated against fans.
I mean, I understand that.
That's what makes Philadelphia a great sports town.
Philadelphia is a great sports town.
It absolutely is, but Santa Claus.
I mean, you can't have a better sports town than that.
well I mean he had to do something wrong in order to get booed but not to defend the Philly fans but McNabb is injured but he is hurting the team by playing injured the way that he is you know my point no no no no no no no You you got it wrong.
This is one of the most courageous efforts in the history of humanity.
He's playing with a sports hernia.
Most mortals would be in bed or on the operating table, but not McNabb.
You gotta get you gotta get it right on this.
Well, he should have been on the operating table the week before the bye, and he'd be back, you know, before the playoffs would start.
Fighting for his job.
What we're having here is a fan in Philadelphia criticizing McNabb.
But see, what are they gonna do to you?
I mean, they can't they can't ban you from the stadium unless you throw something on the field at McNabb, which you're not gonna do.
So I uh I understand the fans that nobody no the fans uh are are not inoculated against criticism.
But I'm talking about the media.
This previous caller was talking about the media.
And I'm I'm simply saying, you know, that the one guy on a team that is uh a beyond reproach in terms of criticism by the media or by teammates is McNabb.
Well, the point with T.O. I think he was set up for conspicuous failure from that slime ball Rosenhaus, to be honest with you.
Uh he he basically he's not welcome in Philly anymore.
Part of the uh press conference you didn't hear was a reporter asked Rosenhaus if he wasn't his agent, would this have happened?
And Rosenhaus was like, no comment, move forward.
Next question.
Right.
So I mean, let's face it, Theo wouldn't be in the position if Rosenhaus wasn't trying to make a dime off of him.
TO is being used in every situation.
They're both idiots that are made for each other.
Well, okay.
See, you're making my point.
How can he be used?
He can be used because he's immature.
These guys all think they need agents, and they do.
They do.
Uh I'm amazed at the number of people have agents.
I why pay somebody 15% what you can get for yourself?
I've I'm just totally amazed at it.
I I I'm just well that's my point, Mr. Snerdley.
He says you you heard Owens, he's not going to negotiate a contract, but that's what he was doing.
That's what he was doing with all these antics was trying to get a new deal from training camp on.
That's exactly what he was doing.
And I'll tell you where this is headed, too.
There's th Rosenhaus, you can call him a slime ball, but he's got a lot of clients, and what he's doing, the the collective bargaining agreement's going to be up in two years in the NFL, and the players' agents don't like the fact that there's really no guaranteed money other than the signing bonus.
You'll hear about a guy getting, oh, a 49 million dollar deal over seven years, and you find out that uh maybe eight million of it's guaranteed.
So it's not a 49 million dollar deal.
And there's a push on to change the whole structure of these contracts.
I don't like the fact that these rookies coming out of college, these first round draft choices and haven't even been hit or completed a pass, are getting, you know, multiple nineteen million dollars in guaranteed money.
So this this effort to get a new contract for T.O. is just setting down a marker for the players' association and for the owners as to what's ahead.
Mark my words on this, folks.
Quick timeout, we'll be back.
Stay with us.
Okay, let's go to Orlando, Florida.
Mike, you've been waiting a while.
I appreciate it.
I got about one minute, but I know you can do it.
Hi, uh Rush.
I was just going to say I uh former uh prosecutor, and I think you're using uh Joe Wilson and all that uh in the upcoming Libby trials a smokescreen, basically, because that's not relevant at all to uh, you know, uh obstruction or justice or uh perjury count.
That has nothing to do.
That's not even gonna be covered whether she's gonna uh whether she was a covert agent or not.
Well, we'll see, because uh the prosecutor, despite admitting that no crime had done committed there, kept talking about how outrageous the covert agent had been outed.
And this is gonna help the defense.
The defense is gonna call all these people because the it may well be that Libby wasn't lying.
It may well be that he just misspoke or uh had a faulty memory.
We don't know, but I'm just telling you that the defense is gonna do all they can to get these witnesses in because we've only heard the prosecutor's side, and I know you you you prosecutors are are comfortable going first, and you have the presumption of guilt on your side simply by making the charge, it's just a human bias that we all have.
But the defense hasn't been heard from yet, and I'm not trying to smoke screen anything, and I'm not making excuses for perjury.
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