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November 9, 2005, Wednesday, Hour #1
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If you notice when the uh liberals lose elections, the elections were stolen.
I toyed with the idea today of trying to start this big movement that all these elections were flawed yesterday, and that the voting machines were tampered with and that our people tried to vote and weren't allowed to vote, and there was discrimination against conservatives, and I wanted to lead the charge, saying these elections are illegitimate because they were stolen.
But then I stopped.
And then I realized, no, that's not the way to go about it.
Because as losers in these elections, those that we lost, we're actually the power.
We're the winners because the minority has rights.
So the minority is actually the winners.
We are in the minority.
We probably now control New Jersey and Virginia.
Because this is a lesson we have learned from the left.
The left, the Democrats lost the Senate, but they say they still run it, minority rights and so forth.
So given the way they think we still control New Jersey, and in fact, we actually won last night because we lost, as in the same way Paul Hackett and Paul Hackett win.
No, he lost, but he won.
Well, we lost, so we won.
It's a great day.
See how you play this if you're a Democrat.
They're making all this noise.
What they did was hold two seats that they already had.
This is what everybody's talking about, the governor's race.
I said yesterday it's the Democrats that face the test.
The Democrats were the incumbents in New Jersey and Virginia.
It was the Democrats that faced the test yesterday, not the Republicans.
But of course, the media already had its story written.
The media template was already written, and so it doesn't matter what the real news is.
The real news, according to the press, is Bush lost last night, even though he wasn't on one ballot anywhere.
Bush lost, so he should resign.
Cheney should resign.
The Republican Congress should just hand power over to the Democrats now because it's a fate accomplished.
Because we all know that last night's handful of state races and ballot initiatives were votes in favor of liberalism, in favor of big government, in favor of appeasement, in favor of abortion on demand in favor of the entire liberal agenda.
That's what won last night, according to our experts in the mainstream press.
They want you to believe that the entire liberal agenda was embraced by the American people last night, those who voted, and the vast majority of Americans who didn't cast a vote because there was no election are ignored.
So, my friends, what we have here is a case of the Democrats and the press once again assuming a reality to be true that isn't.
They are taking these off-year elections, and there's dated.
You have seen stories about how these off-year elections are not harbingers of uh of the next on-year election.
For example, the elections yesterday are not harbingers of what's going to happen in uh 2006, and this is a historical trend.
Goes back uh uh ten years in some states, twenty years in others.
Uh these are state races, local races, uh the national agenda was not uh a factor here in Virginia.
I mean, in it let's go to New Jersey first.
In New Jersey, does anybody really ever expect a Republican to be the governor of that state?
I mean, look, can we get serious about something?
All these pre-election polls, hey, it's neck and neck, hey, Forrester's pulling, hey, come on, folks.
The most corrupt candidate's gonna win in that state every time he runs.
It's not it's I mean, this is this is New Jersey.
You really did anybody really expect a Republican is gonna be elected governor there?
And in Virginia, you had a governor that was a uh Democrat, and he's going on to other things.
The uh lieutenant governor moves out.
What they don't tell you, did the AG win that race through It still does but if you go down the so Lieutenant Governor is a Republican, the AG, that race is still too close to call.
You go down the ticket, the Republicans did well in Virginia.
Uh it just the the governor uh the held his seat.
The the well, the the party held the seat.
But that's also traditional in Virginia.
They always, it seems to not always, but very frequently, more often than not, the party in the White House never holds the governor's seat in Virginia.
It's one of these odd things.
There's no real news here, other than the status quo was maintained.
But the status quo is maintained.
Well, then I'm t no, no, snurly, it wasn't a sweep.
That's what I am telling you.
The press is calling it a sweep, but it wasn't a sweep.
And and all of these ballot initiatives, the ones that counted in Ohio, they were they were sent packing.
Uh uh uh move on takes it on the chin once again.
I don't know what those clowns have ever won, other than anything in California, and yip, yep, yep, yep, yeah.
It's you know, a liberal losing in California would be as big news as a liberal losing in New Jersey.
Uh it it it just I mean, yeah, it just isn't gonna happen.
So this this is really uh m not a whole lot of uh uh news here.
That's a status quo election.
Uh and you can even make the case that in some circumstances the um like in Virginia.
Um, I don't want to bash our guys.
I really don't want to bash our guys, but I mean it's clear if you if you look at some of the uh campaigning in Virginia that you had a reluctant conservative on certain issues.
He was pretty strong on some, but when it came to taxes and other things, he was indistinguishable from the Democrat that was running for governor.
If you if you if you're gonna run as a conservative, do it confidently and be bold about it.
And don't be timid, but you know, conservatives in the Beltway area and Northern Virginia is the heavily populated uh Democrat region of the state.
Yeah, you gotta go ahead and make sure you don't make anybody mad, don't offend anybody, press and uh and all that.
But I I am not just if if you want to know, I'm in a great mood today.
I am not dispirited by the stuff in California is disappointing, but I'm not surprised by it.
Schwarzenegger did as well as he could do out there.
Look at the odds he's up against out there.
Um teachers unions and uh and the the pro-abortion crowd, these people uh that's they think Gina Davis is president, and uh and they think the West Wing debate was an actual political debate affecting the country.
Uh they're just it's a different San Francisco.
I mean, they had some ballot initiatives in San Francisco.
Um they're gonna they're gonna do their best to keep recruiters out of schools, military recruiters out of schools.
I mean, they're just moving further and further to the left.
Uh and that's the message of the Democratic Party.
It's just moving further and further left, and it's able to hold on to what it already has, but it's not able to grow.
And as I say, the the the real the real test, I think yesterday was for Democrats, uh, not Republicans.
But of course the template has been uh rewritten.
The truth is, though, that nobody voted for or against George W. Bush last night.
Nobody voted for or against Congress.
Um I've talked to some people in Virginia, as you know, Virginia's very close to Washington, and I don't go there much, so I don't know much about Virginia, but I talked to people who live there.
And what's going on in Virginia is this.
Northern Virginia, suburb of D.C., has become heavily Democrat over the last ten years.
It's still a Republican state uh because of the uh the downstate population, but it's becoming less so.
Now the governor Mark Warner is a perceived moderate.
But he raised taxes under the pretext of balancing the budget like Clinton, and the economy picked up, the national economy picked up, the states uh benefited from that.
Now there's a big surplus there as a result of his uh of his raising taxes.
Well, not as a result of his raising taxes, but rather as a result of the economic boom that has been going on throughout the country.
And so he gets credited with the surplus when it's actually Bushes.
Um Warner never did anything controversial, and uh and now he has he has high popularity, didn't take a whole lot of big things like Clinton didn't.
And he he focused on keeping his approval numbers up, and that kept the seat strong for the uh for the Democrats.
Now, when when Warner, uh this is Mark Warner, when he first ran for statewide office many years ago, it was against John Warner, and he almost won that race because people were confused about which Warner was who.
Now, Tim Kane, the guy who was elected governor of Virginia, huge lib, huge lib, Former mayor of Richmond.
But what did he do?
He ran to the center on taxes, abortion and a death penalty.
He tried to blur his liberalism.
He tried to keep that out of focus, which is what liberals always do.
They have to when it comes to tightly contested races.
He was able to conceal his liberalism.
He ran ads in rural and conservative areas of Virginia suggesting he was pro-life.
He ran ads in more liberal areas claiming he was pro-choice.
He ran a Paul Hackett campaign in Ohio.
Whoever the audience was, that's what he was.
That's where his ads ran.
If he was running in the ads in the northern part of the state, why he was the biggest pro-choicer you've ever seen.
Ads in the southern part of the state.
You'd get the idea that Kane was pro-life.
It's a devious campaign, but if he gets away with it, it's a smart campaign.
Kilgore, the Republican, his ads word is good, and he allowed Cain to define both of them.
It's you know, the lieutenant governor uh switched parties from Democrat to uh Republican in Virginia.
As I say, the attorney general's race is still too close to call.
But this coverage that we're seeing in the press, this orgasm, this this this uh inability of them uh to contain themselves.
It's sort of like the template for Hurricane Katrina and Scooter Libby.
The story is already in the can, stories already written.
In the case of this election, they want to argue some overarching statement by the American people rejecting Bush is behind these election returns.
So one other thing, just just, and I don't mean to be taking shots here, not taking shots, I'm just pointing something out.
There's an AP story that came out last night, quoting Larry Saboteau, who a saboteau, he's a political scientist at the University of Virginia.
He said in this story, there's no way to spin this than anything other than a major defeat for Republicans and for President Bush.
Well, fine.
Let's take a look at his track record.
I went back, I found a piece published in the Birmingham News.
This is uh August 8th of 2004, right in the thick of last year's presidential uh campaign.
And Larry Sabateau was asked, he was speaking at the um at the uh the the this is in Point Clear, Alabama, and he was speaking to the Business Council of Alabama, their governmental affairs conference at the Grand Hotel Marriott Resort.
He said the growing unpopularity of the Iraq war is the biggest factor hurting Bush's re-election chances.
In August of 2004, Larry Saboteau said he really will need a miracle to win.
And the last miracle was for Harry S. Truman.
He bet his presidency on Iraq, but he's this close to losing the bet.
And he held a finger and thumb about an inch apart.
So Larry Saboteau, even after August, Sabateau was predicting Bush the loser, Carrie the winner in the presidential race.
Last night, AP gets him to say there's no way to spin this than anything other than a major defeat for Republicans and President Bush.
It is neither.
It is not that.
Not when the incumbents hold seats.
It's just it's an off-year election that was Bush, Congress, none of that was on the ballot.
National issues weren't on the ballot.
But this is what the left is left with, grasping at straws, and they're in quicksand.
They think they're at the beach.
They're in quicksand, and they think they just had a pina colada handed to them.
And in fact, it's uh it's nothing more than a little propel water, and they'll be lucky to get all that down.
Back after this.
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Say what I'm gonna do, folks.
I'm gonna keep a sharp eye on the media in Virginia and New Jersey.
I want to keep a sharp eye on the punditry in the in those two states, because I know I'm gonna find it.
It won't be long because I'm I'm I'm gonna find stories in the New Jersey and Virginia media dedicating themselves to what Republicans have to do to regain power.
Well, that's what after when the Democrats lose us, so we get four years of that nonsense in the mainstream press when Democrats lose the White House, Democrats lose the House, Democrats lose the Senate.
We get two weeks of intense focus.
What do the Democrats have to do to regain power?
So I think uh we'll we'll we'll see those kinds of stories in Virginia and uh in New Jersey, right?
What do the Republicans what what do the republic Snerdley, you don't think we'll we'll ever see those stories?
Oh come on, come on, the media is the media.
You know that'll be fair about this.
What will the Republicans have to do to regain power?
And I wonder if they themselves will investigate voter irregularities.
By the way, have you been I haven't been able to find out Kwame killed Patrick when in Detroit or six point Oh he was twelve points behind in early voting and he ends up winning by six.
So is it 18 There's oh I know there's an investigation.
Well the F-well, it's over the absentee ballots.
We had the story last week.
This this this babe was sending out the absentee ballots already marked for herself and Kwame Kilpatrick.
All the absentee ballots went out, they were already marked.
I'm sure we're gonna get stories uh from the mainstream press uh and Detroit media about the voting irregularities that resulted in Democrat wins.
Um we'll just we'll keep a sharp eye uh out for all of this.
Let's go to Dayton, Ohio.
And uh Matt, welcome.
It's great to have you on the program.
Nice to talk to you.
Welcome.
Yeah, hi, Rush.
Hey, I feel good about what happened uh yesterday here in Ohio.
Issue two, three, four, and five got crushed.
Creative.
No, thirty-five percent yes.
The others were about seventy-thirty.
Ohio voters smashed the reform Ohio crowd.
Yeah, now this this was uh George Soros and Moveon.org.
That was uh the the that was their attempt to uh they can't win Ohio, so they wanted to change the way voting takes place.
They wanted to change the way Ohio is districted, uh, and it went down to a stinging defeat.
Now, if there's a harbinger of anything, I mean you could look to Ohio, because Ohio those those four ballot initiatives were a direct result of the Democrats losing the state uh last year, 2004, correct?
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
So they come up with these four ballot initiatives and which are designed to speed along a Democratic victory in Ohio.
Well, whatever got crushed.
They got they got they literally got creamed.
Here's the story.
Uh voters soundly rejected four issues Tuesday that would have overhauled the way Ohio runs its elections, ending a high-pitched campaign that had hoped to capitalize on a Republican investment scandal and complaints about last year's presidential election.
The issues would have opened absentee balloting to all voters, lowered the cap on individual campaign contributions, and put boards instead of elected officials in charge of drawing legislative and congressional districts and overseeing the state's elections.
Reform Ohio Now, a coalition of unions and other Democrat-leaning groups.
It was George Soros and Moveon.org wanted to wrest control of elections from state office holders, now a virtual Republican monopoly.
Republicans resisted, forming an opposition group known as Ohio First.
And they were they were profoundly victorious.
You have to dig deep to find this story in press coverage today, folks.
You have to dig deep.
I told you that the Democrats didn't overcome any opposition.
They held on to what they had.
Uh they didn't succeed in really changing anything anywhere.
So I don't see what all the big deal uh is uh is really all about.
Well, I do know what the big deal that they're just they're they're just reporting the news that they wish were the news.
See, these are state elections, and they turn on state issues.
Presidents can't really affect them a lot.
Uh uh past Virginia Democrat governors uh, you know, have have uh you know they've been unable uh it would in their in in their retirements to affect things even.
Um apart from this election.
Apart from this election, and this is a this is a this is a key element here, I think.
GOP voter turnout in 2006 and 2008 will be determined on what?
Nothing had happened today or yesterday.
Three weeks from now, these elections are gonna be forgotten.
Nobody's gonna not vote or vote next year or 2008 because of what happened yesterday.
Voter turnout, Republican voter turnout, 2006 and 2008 will be determined on clear important issues.
Illegal immigration, cutting spending, cutting taxes, national security in the judiciary, maybe one or two more.
That's what's gonna get Republicans out to vote.
What, Mr. What do you what do you what uh uh there's not gonna be a Bush election?
They're gonna they're gonna cast it as a Bush election.
My whole point, they're gonna try to say that next year's congressional elections are Bush elections.
They're not gonna be.
They're gonna be about issues.
And this is where if we'll just have candidates and go out and run confidently and boldly on these issues, we can skunk the left because they're not gonna have issues.
They're gonna be running against Bush, who will not be on the ballot.
But if the Republicans in Washington don't get their act together, they will suffer some losses.
I have said this forever, and it is true now, as is has ever been.
You run on conservative principles, you will win.
If you lurch to the center, if you try to be a moderate, you will lose.
It's why I think McCain's gonna have trouble in a general election in 2008.
Republican voters is now gonna turn out with great passion for McCain, and Democrats will vote mostly for the Democrat as they uh as they always do.
But I'm getting way ahead of myself.
I'm just telling you, issues run on them boldly, confidently.
Livs don't have a prayer.
Especially when I think it's about something else.
All right, we're back.
Uh great to be with you.
Did O'Cam's gonna be coming up soon at Rush Limbaugh.com.
Um speaking of Rush Limbaugh.com, the Harkin Amendment was defeated yesterday, 55 to 44.
There were two senators not voting.
Uh Corzine was out of town uh uh being elected governor of New Jersey, and McCain was out of town, I think, at a book tour.
So it was McCain and Corzine not voting.
Uh but the Harkin Amendment went down in a straight party line vote 5544.
The GOP stood with El Rushbo in the uh in the Senate.
Uh also we FedExed yesterday to uh Senator Harkin's office our uh gift package of Club Gitmo items in Rush Limbaugh.com.
A club gitmo t-shirt, a couple sizes to make sure one will fit.
Uh Club Gitmo golf shirt, soap on a rope from Club Gitmo, the uh jihad Java coffee mug, uh a couple other little goodies uh we sent it FedEx.
It was just delivered and signed for.
We've been running the tracking.
So at this moment, Senator Harkin may in fact be trying on uh one or more items of his club gitmo apparel.
Yes, my friends.
Well, uh, things um things move on here on the EIB network.
Here's Stephen in Greenfield, Massachusetts.
Nice to have you on the program, sir.
Hey Ross, thank you very much for taking my call.
Uh with all due respect, I believe you can spin all you want.
This is a referendum.
People are rejecting Bush's policy.
He's not a popular president as you say last week.
Steve, Steve, stay Steve.
Steve it, sta Stephen, Stephen.
Can I ask you a question?
Go ahead.
You know, you listen to this program, right?
Yes, I do.
All the time.
Okay, and you know who my audience is.
Yes, I do.
Well, you know that I'm just trying to keep them bucked up.
I mean, you know my audience is really depressed today.
Some of them are as suicidal as you people felt last year.
And I've got to say, yeah, I've got to say this stuff, Steve.
You and I'm winking and I'm saying you you know I agree with you.
This is all Bush took it on the chin yesterday.
I think Bush ought to, I think you ought to resign.
I think this is such a humiliating defeat.
Bush ought to just say he and Cheney are going and uh and ask the Democrats who they want to run the country now because we know Hastert's not capable of doing it.
Uh but I got you you've got to cut me some slack here, man, because I'm talking to my audience.
I gotta keep them bucked up.
You understand that.
Well, I believe you're uh using a condescending town.
I think you you you believe that Bush is still strong.
Virginia is a red state, and he was there the eve of the election.
If people read his policies, you know, he lost.
Stephen, Stephen, Stephen, I'm soliciting your help.
You don't understand when you have a friend.
I just told you you're right, but I'm asking you to shh and understand what I'm dealing with here.
You know, I've I've got a big problem.
I got to keep my audience together as well as keep the White House.
And you guys, you know, you're having too much success out there in causing us all kinds of trouble.
But I I you know I'm just asking you to help me.
I'm not arguing with you.
You understand that?
Well, your audience is highly educated, well-informed audience, and I feel they know it deep inside.
Some of them, they are like you.
Don't believe that, but most of them today, they believe, oh, they've already have a cast of a doubt that hmm.
Stephen Stephen Stephen is really not right.
Stephen, Stephen, Steve, come on.
Now we gotta be uh man to man.
You know my audience Is not that smart.
You you know this.
They're conservatives.
Man, they're just a bunch of hay seed hicks.
They believe everything I tell them.
And here you come calling me and blowing my cover.
You could have waited a day or two, but you did you know, and I I didn't have to take your call.
But you're not this audience will believe anything.
I say they're just a bunch of mind number.
I disagree.
They're very well informed.
They are very well educated, and they make up their own minds.
And I think this is really really wait a minute.
Now, if if they if they're smart and make up their own minds, then how can I spin them?
Well, that's why I'm saying in Virginia, which is a red state, they might made up their mind.
They rejected Bush's policy.
That's my point.
Because they think for themselves, you know, they they decided for themselves.
Well, wait, hold it.
Maybe you you may be more informed than even I, which would be saying something.
What Bush policies were on the ballot, Virginia.
Well, here is the case.
One is Iraq.
Iraq and the city.
I don't think either.
Stephen, Stephen, Stephen, Stephen, I've ch I don't think any of the gubernatorial candidates ran on Iraq since uh neither of those candidates had they become governor would have anything to say about it.
I don't think Iraq was on the uh ballot.
That was is Virginia let me since the Democrat won is Virginia going to withdraw from Iraq now?
Is that they're gonna Virginia gonna pull their uh National Guard and soldiers out now?
Is that what that means?
They're not, but they're sending a message that this policy is wrong.
Remember 1994, when Bill Clinton came up with all these we want to reform the Medicaid, med this, med that.
The people rejected the policy by sending him the message by sending all the Steve Stephen Stephen Republican.
You're absolutely right about that, but here's why.
The elections, those were the 1994 was an on-year election, and those those House elections were nationalized.
It was one of the strategies that Newt Gingrich put together.
He had members of Congress go out and run campaigns in their state districts on national issues, and that was what's one of the better kept secrets of that campaign, that along with a contract with America.
But I don't think that happened in Virginia or New Jersey.
There weren't there weren't any national issues.
These governors are not trying to pass themselves off as presidential candidates opposing Bush.
They were talking about state issues.
Well, everybody who's associating with Bush now has to be careful, just like the former governor of Virginia, just like the former mayor of St. Paul, Minnesota.
This is the message the country can send it.
Right.
And you read to wake up.
I've I've I I've tried, I've I've tried, Stephen.
I've I've tried every which way I know to become a buddy with you.
You have rejected and resisted my uh my efforts to do so.
And I'm gonna tell you the truth.
You and your kind of thinking here are the exact reason you're gonna lose in 06 and 08, because you think you win when you don't.
You think you won big yesterday, and you think Bush lost, you are living in an alternative false reality.
Bush wasn't on the ballot, no congressman was on the ballot yesterday.
You can talk to me about mayors and governors and lieutenant governors and attorney generals all you want.
Attorneys general all you want, but you can't tell me that anybody other than those candidates who lost lost.
But you want to believe that Bush lost yesterday, so you're gonna continue to lie to yourself that you've won when you haven't.
You people out there on the left have a huge problem.
You are losing everywhere you go when it comes to national elections, other than these few, you know, weird little enclaves like Massachusetts, New York, and California.
The bottom line is you're losing margins of victory in national elections while you think you're winning.
You have a guy in Ohio named Hackett who loses, and you people tell yourself you won.
It's gotten so bad that when you're in the minority in the Senate, you say the minority should run the show.
You are not winning things while you think you are.
People who lie to themselves never ever get it.
They are continually surprised because you are not willing to face the genuine problems that you face.
And if you think that you can persuade people that Bush was on all these ballots yesterday and that he lost, you go right ahead.
I am more than comfortable for you to think that, because it's going to continue to keep you focused on the wrong things in the ensuing years.
Mike in Cleveland, you're next.
Nice to have you on the program, sir.
Hi, Rush.
Hey.
The uh the spinleisters were on this morning saying that their problem was that they were too complicated, and the voters didn't understand.
That's why they didn't vote for them.
You talk about these four uh ballot initiatives in Ohio?
Yes, to change our election process.
Yeah, okay.
So there you it's a typical liberal excuse.
The voters are too stupid to understand their brilliance and their ideas.
The voters are too many of them.
As a matter of fact, we understood exactly what they were saying.
That's why we turned out in droves to vote against it.
Well, let them keep lying to themselves, Mike.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
The people that won't face reality are doomed a bit slapped upside the head by it each and every day.
I'm glad you called.
I appreciate it.
Uh Andrew in Tampa, your next.
Welcome to the program.
Hello, Mr. Limbaugh.
How are you today, sir?
I'm never better, sir.
To tell you the truth, never better.
Glad to have you on your show.
Great.
Greetings from an old Robert Welch Republican.
Say, Mr. Limbaugh, I was wondering if uh, in your opinion, if we should just write off the Northeast in places like New Jersey and California.
That's a trick question, because if I say so, the Democrats will put together an ad with me and a saw sawing California off and then sawing New Jersey off like they did to go.
No, I'm not Everton Willie to to totally write off anything.
Uh but it in the case of uh New Jersey and California, uh they it is what it is.
Those states are what they are, and the people that live there are the people that live there.
And one of the one of the what one of the problems um in both states is that Republicans are moving.
The uh a lot of people are leaving California big, big this is really not known because the population's not reducing itself that much uh because of all the immigration, the illegal immigration.
Uh but the the fact of the matter is that that uh you know a lot of people are leaving California for for cheaper places to live.
Uh and and uh same thing in New Jersey.
Uh the whole Northeast is losing population, and most of the people leaving are uh Republicans.
But I have to say, uh the you know when when I started this program in 1988, California was what it was.
Well, they had a Republican governor, and Pete Wilson and so forth, but uh uh look if if the the way to look at this, folks, is this.
Back in 1988 when I started this program, most of the country was New Jersey and California.
Most of the country was like New Jersey and California.
That's what made Reagan's two landslides so overwhelming.
But in 1988, when I started, and I was it back then, other than the mainstream press, all of this covered, the vast majority, we still had Democrats running some states in the South.
We still had elected Democrats from the Senate in the South.
But most of this country was like New Jersey and California.
Now, you're asking me, should we just write off New Jersey and California?
Well, you can look at it two ways.
No, it's just gonna take a little longer.
Or if all they can really claim that they call the guaranteed to hold on to is New Jersey, California, and Massachusetts, fine.
We'll take the rest.
Electoral politics being what they are.
You gotta keep everything in context here, folks.
You've got to keep everything in front of you.
Got a quick time out.
Back with more after this.
Here's another little factoid for you.
This uh problem in California.
Calling a special election.
Those are always problematic.
Reagan did this.
Reagan uh called a special election in 1971.
Um his was a b get this.
Reagan called a special election, had a ballot initiative to limit spending in 1971.
Schwarzenegger doing the same thing.
Some what is it, 34 years later.
That doesn't tell you.
Anyway, Reagan's uh Reagan's ballot initiative lost.
Uh because during special elections on initiatives like this, the unions turn out their vote.
Other voters are less likely to vote because it's the doesn't occupy the news.
There's nothing that there's nothing else going on other than these special elections, and so it's a shame.
I think Schwarzenegger did about as well as he could, but people had hopes that he would uh uh win a couple of these things, but uh it's it was uh it was a long shot.
Here is Mike in Detroit.
Welcome, sir.
Nice to have you on the program here at the EIB network.
You're the man, Rush.
Thank you.
I live outside of town where all the Republicans left.
Uh Detroit is ninety percent Democratic.
They run a uh nonpartisan ballot for mayor because you can't get a Republican to run against a Democrat.
So if you're saying this is what the Northeast is losing all the Republicans, come visit Detroit and you can uh for the Super Bowl, which I know you'll be here.
We will have our best face on for the show, but uh this is what the Northeast can look uh can look forward to in the future.
That's an interesting take.
Super Bowl is in Detroit this year.
That's right at Ford Field.
Ford Field.
You know, I went to the first game in Ford Field.
It was a preseason game between the Detroit Lions and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And uh my buddies at WJR invited me up there.
And when I was going to weekend golf tournament out there, and I went went to the game, it was a Saturday, and then I got to meet Mr. Ford, William Clay Ford, uh, the owner of the team, had a nice conversation with him, and I met his son, Bill, who runs Ford Motor Company today, pretty much runs team too.
And uh uh he was coming off the field and and get ready to go upstairs, and everybody's clearing out and going upstairs because the game is about to start.
And I said after introducing myself uh and meeting him, I said, hey, wait to secure those naming rights for the uh for the stadium, Ford Field.
He kind of looked at me and he started laughing.
It was a joke.
But I was there, and it's a beautiful stadium, and they and they do have the Super Bowl coming up this year.
And Detroit will put on its best uh its best foot.
The Detroit's had the Super Bowl before out at uh in actual New Fallujah, uh which is out in in uh in Pontiac, uh, which is where the old dome was out there.
It was cold as it could be.
They played the Cincinnati Bungles back then, 49ers did, and uh and beat Cincinnati big Montana team.
But yeah, I don't know if I'll be going.
Uh, but I did get a note here from uh from my buddy Paul Pull W Smith, uh, who does mornings at uh at WJR.
I love it with Paul W. Smith.
Anyway, Paul said uh Russia don't forget here's two Democrats, just as to make Mike's point, the the mayoral race was two Democrats running for each other.
Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick comes from behind to beat Freeman Hendricks, and the babe that uh the city clerk that sent out all these absentee ballots that were pre-marked that had votes for her in Kwame Kilpatrick, her name's Jackie Curry.
She's the one under investigation by the FBI.
Uh she's been, I guess, under fire for a number of years for questionable acts, but she was defeated.
She was defeated, and she counts the votes.
So something something something went wrong uh in uh in in Detroit yesterday, but it's a good point.
Uh if if if Republicans keep leaving these Northeastern enclaves, uh you you will and I think New York is pretty much like that now, you know.
What's the voter registration of New York and uh like in Manhattan, New York City?
Like yeah, it's like five to one.
I think it's I guess like twenty percent Republican so forth.
At any rate, I gotta go quick time out.
We'll be back.
Have you heard?
Folks, Mary Mapes did her first interview today in Good Morning America with with Brian uh what's it Brian Ross?
My gosh, some of the things that she said wait till you hear these.
Back in just a second.
Okay, gotta hear this.
We got a lot more sound bites of this, but this is the money soundbite.
Brian Ross does it today talking to uh Mary Mapes of CBS.
He says, after twelve years of defending him, CBS and Dan Rather later admitted they couldn't vouch for the authenticity of the documents, Bill Burke's documents, and that they should not have been used, and the story should not have aired.
Do you, Mary Mapes, still think the story was true?
The story?
Absolutely.
This seems remarkable to me that you would sit here now and say you still find that story to be up to your standards.
I'm perfectly willing to believe those documents are forgeries if there's proof that I haven't seen.
But isn't it the other way around?
Don't you have to prove they're authentic?
Well, I think that's what critics of the story would say.
I know more now than I did then.
And I think I think they have not been proved to be false yet.
Have they proved to be authentic, though?
Isn't that really what journalists are?
No, I don't think that's the standard.
No, she doesn't think that's the standard.
Do you do you understand what you just heard?
Mary Mapes, Dan Rather's producer, 60 minutes too.
No, the standard is not on us to prove they're authentic.
What she's saying is that the standard is on critics to prove that they're not.
She can take anything she wants, put it on the air without authenticating it, without verifying it, and it's up to critics to disprove it.
Now I think what's going on here, I don't think she's that far out when it comes to all these other people in the mainstream press.
I think that's the way they look at things.
They have the I I really do.
It's up to the critics to prove this is not true.
That's why Rather is out there still saying he wishes he could pursue the story.
He still believes it's true, even though the documents may be forged, he still thinks the story is true.
Because nobody's proven the story isn't true, even though they've proven that the documents are forgeries, which Mary Mapes still can't admit.
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