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Nov. 4, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 4, 2005, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
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The uh media is in full orgasm today.
They have a Washington Post poll.
We have an AP poll.
Both show that Bush is uh just in horrible shape according to the polls.
Public support now has eroded to its lowest level yet, with the Iraq war dragging on.
A top White House aide facing felony charges, and the White House rushing to replace a failed Supreme Court nominee.
Concerned that the president's lost his footing, some Republicans have suggested that President Bush should shake up his staff, a new AP Ipsos poll.
Found the president's approval rating was at 37% compared with only 39% a month ago, about 59% of those surveyed said that they disapproved, and the intensity of disapproval is the strongest to date, with 42% now saying they strongly disapprove of how Bush is handling the job.
Now, folks, we've had a CBS poll out this week, and we know that the sample in that poll was was really skewed, and 25% Republicans, 35% Democrats, and interestingly found a 35% approval rating.
Uh uh, I don't know yet on the breakdown of this AP poll, but this is becoming a common practice.
Now remember what I have said to you over I I hate to keep saying that.
You know, I I found my yesterday I found myself saying, Now, as I said to you last week, and as I told you last week, and I I hate getting into the uh monosyllabic habit of of doing that, but it is important to keep saying and reinforcing things, and the the news cycle today is really no more than what the media wants the news to be.
You can get a poll, you can take it, and you can you can bend it in shape and come up with a result that's pretty close to what you want.
Uh I frankly don't have the sense that these polls are accurate.
If I did, I'd be worried about, but I don't have the sense that they're accurate.
I also don't think that they matter because Bush is not running for anything again.
Um some people say, well, but you gotta be a little concerned about this rush because it's Bush that advances the agenda that future Republicans will uh will run on.
Well, here's yeah, I I I think we're in fine sh I still look at the Democrats.
I mean, I I'd love to see a poll on those people.
You know, I I still sit here and I'm amazed.
In fact, I've been thinking about this.
I just the more I think about it, the more nothing makes sense.
There has to be a reason I haven't thought of yet to explain what Democrats are doing.
This groundhog day business, this going back and rehashing this whole notion that Bush lied about pre-war intelligence.
They know that that's not true.
They they have to know that just they they know what they said about, they know the intelligence they saw.
They know it's not true.
So what's going on?
It's either they're they're in the midst, it could be multiple things, too.
They're in the midst of it, it's a dramatic implosion and crack up.
Um, or there's something else that that is behind this, and I've I've been thinking about some possibilities, which I will share with you.
Um I know a lot of it is follow the money fundraise, Mr. Sturdley.
You're you're right.
I I think it's you're partly right.
Part of it is they're saying and doing things that their kooks want them to say, I I just I still think that it's one of the most pleasant moments of my day is when I run across stories uh from from the Kook base, wherever you find them that think the Democrats are finally standing up now.
Democrats finally got a backbone, Democrats are finally fighting back, as though all this sh mutt and dirty tricks that they've been playing the last five years represents weakness and and and uh and silence.
No, there it it it but there's more to it than just the fundraising.
They're not just trying to echo what the base is saying to get money, there's something else going on.
I I think I have figured it out, but I will share it with you as the program unfolds today.
Back to these polls.
Uh when you if you look at the Libby case, if you look at any element of the news, Katrina aftermath, Cindy Sheehan, it doesn't matter.
The news was reported not as it was in reality.
The news took the shape of the hopes and dreams of those who were reporting it.
Uh the news became what the hoped for outcome is.
And so they simply started reporting the news as though what they hope for has already happened.
So the war in Iraq is not a war.
The economy is not the economy, because it's burgeoning it.
I mean, we're coming back out of these hurricanes pretty strongly.
The uh the hurricanes, uh, natural disaster hurricanes are not natural disasters, and the and the possibility of a bird flu pandemic is is is not really the possibility of a bird flu pandemic.
These events, these issues that we face, they are not challenges to our country, and they are not challenges to our well-being, and they're not even really problems.
What they are is vehicles.
They are opportunities to attack, to vilify, to weaken the president of the United States, to weaken George W. Bush, uh, well, because in the liberal mind he's not president, he's just W. He's just a lying kid, a frat boy.
But the latest poll, uh, and it's, you know, the Washington Post, CBS, whatever, it's tainted with the with the sample that has been uh constructed.
Uh but it does show that the media liberal complex is doing some harm, however, temporarily.
I and but I'm not even willing to admit that yet.
Some people think so, but I'm not willing to admit that.
I just I don't get the sense of of uh depression, doom and gloom uh on on my side of the aisle that would be there if this were the actual opinion of the public.
For example, I mean, you know the scooter libby story, why it's the biggest thing going on in Washington right now, but out there it really isn't yet.
It's not that big a deal, and yet it is cited as one of the many factors that has led people to be disappointed and disapproving of President Bush.
So I think it's a huge disconnect.
So we've got a war going on, and we're not gonna tell you how good the war is.
We're gonna focus on war victims.
We will ignore the war heroes.
In fact, the New York Times will even distort the words of war heroes in its pages, not distort, but totally reorient the words of a war hero to make him say something in a letter that he was not saying.
Uh we have focusing on war setbacks instead of ignoring the successes.
We're ignoring good economic news.
In fact, we're ignoring great economic news.
We focus only on the first three days of Hurricane Katrina, and we ignore the positives that have uh come out of all these hurricanes that have hit, or not nearly as bad as they were.
Uh you know, it's just it's the same old thing that the the uh attempt here to force Bush out of office and to force him into a never-never land of disapproval is something they think they've achieved.
This is like they think this indictment of Scooter Libby is gonna lead to a trial on why we went to war in Iraq.
I mean, it's all fantasy island.
And I think the to a large degree their poll results are as well.
I'll give you an example of this.
The audio soundbites we come back as open line Friday rolls right on.
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Uh here's here's the uh here's the data on the uh the the polls out there.
The AP Ipsos poll, uh who which got the lowest approval rating for Bush yet.
Here's the weighting on that.
Forty-nine percent Democrats, 40% Republican, and 9% independent.
Now, what's wrong with that?
What's wrong with that is that there are far more people identify themselves as Republican today than Democrat, and far more that identify themselves as conservative than liberal.
In the uh CBS news poll that was uh out this week, uh independents were uh rated uh were weighted at 41%, Democrats 35%, Republicans 24%.
And the Washington Post poll, a respondents there, the uh Democrats were 31%, Republicans were 27%, and uh the uh uh independents were at 38%.
Uh so i i if you look at all these polls, you see a vastly undersampled Republican participation in uh in virtually all of them.
And so that's one of the ways that you can go out and produce the kind of news that you wish to happen.
And I maintain that a lot of that is uh is what's going on.
Now, uh give you an example.
Our buddies at Newsmack uh Newsmax have just uh put posted something on their website.
They've done a little research and found something out a week after Patrick Fitzgerald announced that his investigation had been unable to establish that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent at the time she was outed by Robert Novak.
The press continues to refer to her using the bogus term as covert.
In the last six days, there have been 261 references to Plame's covert status in mainstream media accounts, according to Alexis Nexus search.
The wave of erroneous reporting continues despite Fitzgerald's clear denials during his press conference last Friday after announcing the Libby indictment.
Uh Fitzgerald, if you recall, asked about Plaim's covert status, said this to reporters.
I'm not speaking to whether or not Valerie Wilson was covert, and anything I say is not intended to say anything beyond this.
That she was a CIA officer from January 1st, 2002 forward.
We've not made any allegation that Mr. Libby knowingly intentionally outed a covert agent.
We have not charged that, and so I'm not making that assertion.
He explained instead that Plame's CIA status was classified, but not covert, and yet the media to this day continue to refer to her as a covert agent.
She never was a covert agent at any stage of this whole story.
Just as the indictment has nothing to do with the way we fought the war on Iraq or had pre-war intelligence going into it, but you would not know that by listening to the mainstream press.
So they just they're they're they're they're continuing to report what they wished this whole thing was about, and they continue to report as though it has come about.
And their alternative reality is a glaring gaping hole.
Here's the real story about the upcoming Libby trial.
The real story is that media bias is going to be put on trial.
If you want to know the truth, I'll guarantee you something.
These lawyers, these defense lawyers for Lewis Libby are no slouch, and they are going to demand all kinds of documents.
They're going to demand all kinds of classified material from the government.
They're going to demand to see everything that Libby said to these reporters, and these reporters reported and took in their notes that Libby said to them.
You're going to see a parade of reporters being being subpoenaed and called to testify in this in this trial.
They are likely to question whether political bias of news outlets involved in this whole case played a role in testimony by their reporters against the top White House officials.
The Wall Street Journal is making that assertion today in an editorial.
They said just wait until defense counsel starts examining their memories and their reporting habits, not to mention the dominant political leanings in the newsrooms of NBC, Time Magazine, and the New York Times.
with a story we had yesterday from our buddies at Newsmax about Andrea Mitchell back in 2003.
Oh yeah, all of us said...
It was generally no widely known that Valerie Plane worked at the CIA.
You don't think that the defense lawyers for Libya are going to get hold of her and try to get her on the stand in this trial?
This is where the media is.
This is one of those things.
Be careful what you ask for because you might get it.
They wanted this investigation, but it's I I can just tell you that these lawyers for Scooter Libby are this is hardballed.
They've got two things to do.
They've got it, they've got to get him acquitted and they've got to restore his reputation.
And there are people out there who are trying to destroy his reputation, and that's who you go after when you're trying to restore somebody's uh reputation.
So you can expect these lawyers to seek broad discovery of classified materials.
In fact, they will also, they will also probably demand every piece of documentation on the referral from the CIA to the Justice Department, which asked for this investigation in the first place, to and they want to determine the true nature of her employment.
They'll f they'll ferret that out.
They're gonna nuke all of these rumors, all of these allegations.
They're gonna nuke the the the uh template here that is being used by the press.
He was covert, that Wilson is a great guy, they're both brave, courageous heroes, their lives are destroyed.
Um all this was the basis for the Iraq war.
Uh they're just gonna totally nuke this.
And the the great thing about it is they're gonna make these requests under the uh terms of discovery, and you know the government won't want to turn over everything.
You know the CIA is gonna cite uh national security, all other kinds of privileges.
Uh and I I think what these people will do, these lawyers, they will go out, they will create a First Amendment problem by seeking broad discovery of reporters, their notes, their emails, other possible sources who may have discussed plaim and her identity with them.
Uh and the media will go nuts.
There, they will they will go more nuts than they were during Fitzgerald's investigation.
It landed one of their own in jail.
The defense has a right to information uh that they have a reasonable expectation will help them.
They have a right to it.
See, folks, what's happened here, and this is what I've a point that I I make constantly on the program.
We all we have is the indictment, and all we have is what the special prosecutor said at his press conference.
We have not had one defense comment yet.
We haven't had one retaliation, and the way it works in our society, everybody listens to the prosecutor and they listen to the indictment, and the and the prosecutors leak whatever they want to leak to the media, and everybody gets it in their head that the suspect is guilty.
Before the suspect has even been heard from.
And the media's out there just, oh, they're just so excited, they just can't wait for this.
Well, they're gonna get what they asked for, and this First Amendment problem is gonna surface because when these reporters are brought into a trial, and all of their notes and all of their emails, and everybody else they've talked to about this.
And when Plame and Wilson get brought into trial, you darn darn well know they're gonna be brought into this too.
Uh, you know, Andrea Mitchell probably will be drawn into this since she said it was common knowledge, and the prosecution said it was not.
Patrick Fitzgerald said in his indictment it was not common knowledge.
Andrew Mitchell says it was.
A lot of reporters have been saying it was common knowledge.
So the prosecutor had his way.
He had his time, but now the fight begins, folks, and this is where it's gonna get real into it.
It's gonna take some time because all of this uh uh flooding of motions and paper is is gonna take a while to uh argue before the court, but the defense is about to mount its offense, and it's gonna be real interesting to watch the whole template that the media has set up on this story blown to smithereens.
And that's the real story.
That's the real future.
That's the real direction this case is gonna go.
It is not gonna go where Chris Matthews and the rest of these people think it's gonna go.
It's not gonna go to did Bush lie about pre-war intelligence, anything about Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame and and uh uh uh the whole reason for going to war in Iraq and did Bush lie to us all the way through his teeth about everything he said.
It's not gonna go there.
It isn't going to go there.
The prosecution's gonna try to prove that Scooter Libby lied to them uh uh not about uh anything regarding Valerie Plame, but rather lied about his conversations with reporters.
That's what they're gonna prove, and the defense is obviously gonna go after the very people who have put Scooter in this circumstance, and that's the news media.
This is gonna be fun.
I feel sorry for Scooter that he's in the middle of this and that it has to It has to happen, but I'm just you mark my words.
And it's a great it's a great lesson to apply every time you watch the news from this day forward.
Because what they tell you that is happening now isn't, it's what they hope will happen.
What they tell you is going to happen in the future is what they're telling you they're going to try to make happen.
And at every stage of the way, you can look at the Katrina aftermath.
You can look at the National Guard documents, the forged documents, you can look at the attempts that were made uh after the 9-11 commission.
They have bombed out.
They have failed.
Now they think they've succeeded because they've got these poll numbers down.
But they haven't succeeded in getting Bush out of office.
They haven't succeeded in bringing impeachment charges.
They haven't succeeded in electing one Democrat to replace one Republican anywhere yet.
They haven't succeeded at anything.
And I don't want anybody getting all down on the dumps and depressed thinking it's over.
Because folks, every day is just a new beginning.
And we are back open line Friday.
Get to your phone calls here in just a second.
I want to go to the audio soundbites, folks, because this will also help to illustrate what I am discussing and what our buddies at Newsmax have uncovered that despite the fact that Fitzgerald said nothing about Valerie Playham being covert, they continue to refer to her as covert, that the war's not a war, the economy's not the economy, natural disaster hurricanes are not natural disasters, and the bird flu pandemic is not a real problem.
These are just vehicles, these are just vehicles that the def the left, the Democrats and the media can use to try to hammer Bush and conservatives, and they create the news that they hope happens.
We have a whole segment on it here from last night's hardball with a great, great summation and just hammer job on Matthews and Katrina Vandenhoovel by Deborah Oren of the New York Post.
But uh that's who we'll hear from Katrina Vanden Hoovel, Matthews and Orin.
Matthews says, Hurricane Katrina, why are these numbers what they are?
35% approval for the president of the war, sixty-four percent say it's not worth it.
Sixty one percent say the charges against Libby are worth prosecuting.
What's going on out there, Hurricane Katrina?
Hurricane Katrina, the failed war in Iraq, staggeringly high oil prices, a sense that this administration doesn't care about ordinary Americans, that it circles the wagons, stonewalls, misleads Americans.
And the good news is that I think Democrats are finally beginning to wake up and act like an opposition party.
Credit to Harry Reid the other night for invoking a legitimate rule to uh go into private session and to demand questions from Republicans who have stonewalled on uh intelligence on national security, undermining uh national security in favor of circling the wagons.
Uh let us get some answers.
Now, Katrina Vandenhoovel here, uh ladies and gentlemen, is part of the Kook base.
She is the editor-in-chief of the Nation magazine, which is no different than what you see and read on some of these far-left Kook uh uh websites.
And you hear her, she believes all this.
She really believes she thinks that she doesn't know that there have been three investigations that have already uncovered no manipulation of intel, no attempt by uh uh administration officials to pressure analysts to shape the intel or to leave certain things out of it uh in order to make the case.
No such thing.
The Silberman Rob report, March 31st of this year is just the latest.
There have been intelligence committee uh uh hearings in the Senate, investigations produce the same thing, uh, and yet utter denial.
And she's one of the targets, by the way.
She's sitting there thinking that Harry Reed's done a great she's one of these people, and I just have to laugh.
Oh, yeah, it's great to see the Democrats finally showing a backbone.
That is not what the Democrats are doing, but it's if it if if that's what people like Katrina Vandenhoovel think is going on, then the Democrat strategy is working with them.
Because the Democrats, they these guys know who they know what they said, they know what their statements are, they know they can be dredged up, they know what their votes on the war are.
And so they're there there's something going on here besides them just cracking up, and it's not just they need to say this stuff to get fundraising uh uh up from these groups, which do contribute a lot of money to the Democrats.
There's there's something else, and I think it's something they're hiding.
But as I say, I will unveil all of that as the uh program unfolds.
So there's Vanden Hoovel, And you you hear that the basic parroting of all of these things that she wishes were true that she actually thinks are true, but really are not.
So Matthew says, Well, Katrina, should the vice president testify in this case as the state's witness against his chief of staff, uh Scooter Libby.
The whole issue of motive.
What was Scooter Libby's motive?
He was linked at the hip to the vice president, his chief aide.
If Libby lied, did he lie to conceal the vice president's involvement?
Thereby protecting his boss, thereby not getting this news out in advance of the election in 2004.
These are core questions.
I think we need to keep our eyes on the prize and focused.
And for Deborah, one to dismiss what happened in the Senate the other day as a stunt is so um abusive toward any concept of minority rights in a democracy, and two, to deny that this indictment is the tip of the iceberg.
Here's Deborah Oren's response, by the way.
Katrina, I'm simply drawing conclusions from what the prosecutor said.
The prosecutor said this was a very narrow case.
The war was not on trial in this case.
There was no charge in the indictment involving outing a covert agent, hence, no covert agent was outed, because the prosecutor knows the original Mr. X who told Robert Novak that first got this name out.
No charges have been put against that person or against Robert Novak.
Hence, there was no outing of a covert agent because she wasn't covert.
So Matthew says, Well, but but you're you're counting an awful lot of people on the left, like all the major newspapers and the wire services and networks.
Everybody's off base, but here, but you, is that what you're saying?
One of the most amusing things about this whole thing, actually, is how the left has suddenly fallen in love with the CIA.
I find that hysterical.
But I come back to the beginning.
This case has been horribly misreported by the press.
And you have to just go.
Yeah, I'm reading the indictment.
You don't seem to be.
There is no outing in the indictment.
There are prosecutions going on right now for perjury, for obstruction of justice, for misstatements.
There's an investigation that continues of Carl Rove.
This is serious business.
But however it started, it's ending this way.
You can't talk sense to him.
You can't.
She did her best.
She did her best to drill home the reality.
And is Katrina Vandenhoov will say, What was Scooter Libby's motive?
He's linked to the hip of the vice president.
That's not where this case is going to go.
I mean, it'll it'll include that, but it's not where it's going to end up.
This is going to end up being a big investigation of how the media operates.
This is going to be a big investigation of what the media knew and when did they know it?
And what did they know that they denied that they knew?
What were they trying to keep quiet about?
What were they trying to keep secret?
There's a lot of media people on the record as saying, hey, it was widely known that this woman worked at the CIA.
So the it's a very narrow case, but you hear they're living this illusion.
They're living this false reality, this alternative reality, even if because they wanted it so badly, they're just going to pretend that they got it, and since they didn't get it, they're going to try to make it happen anyway.
And when they do that, obviously their eye is off the ball, and they're going to get sandbagged.
And if I look, I can have Chris Matthews in here right and I could be telling him this.
He would discount everything I'm saying.
I couldn't get through to him any more than Deborah Orin could get through to me.
So you're saying that I'm wrong, every major newspaper is wrong, and all the major networks are wrong.
Yes.
Yes!
And you've been wrong for how many years?
Yes, you're wrong.
Do you care about credibility?
Do you care about your future?
Do you care about not becoming a laughing stock?
Yes, you're wrong.
Well, may have started that way, but it ain't gonna end that way.
And that's his bottom line.
And all of them.
So when their eyes not on the ball, they're gonna get broadsided blindsided, and they think they're watching it, and they will be.
They'll be watching it with their own two eyes, seeing things that don't happen, reporting things that haven't happened as though they're about to happen, and then when they get blindsided, you watch.
This is gonna make you a prediction.
Before this is all over, these people that were calling Patrick Fitzgerald, a prosecutor's prosecutor, are gonna be cursing this guy like they were cursing Ken Starr.
Because this prosecution is gonna end up involving them just like the investigation did.
Brian in Virginia Beach will start with you on Open Line Friday.
Nice to have you with us.
Listen, I'm just wonder if you would uh give us your take on these uh riots that have taken over France and what it says about their the demise of their beloved socialism over there.
Well, uh there's you know, there this thing started out innocently enough.
It started out as just some gangs trying to steal car parts.
It it and there are four there, I think twenty twenty suburbs of Paris, twenty small cities near Paris, uh, where this activity is going on.
Four of them, I believe, where this activity is intense.
And it started out with just a bunch of people stealing car parts, and these are really poor neighborhoods.
These are really downtra typical neighborhoods you get in socialism.
Uh just really poor.
And and the cops never go in there.
The cops never go into these areas to stop any of the crime.
Well, the the people that do abide by the law in these neighborhoods finally had had enough, and one lady gets on the phone, watching some some car thief uh uh do his little number out there, and she called the cops.
Well, you call the cops, the cops came in, and the people who had been getting away with crime in these areas unopposed, got offended that anybody would dare send authority in after them.
And that started all these riots.
And the French at first said, Well, it's just a bunch of hooligans and uh we're not gonna let these people violate the laws of this republic.
We're gonna enforce the laws of this republic.
And the and the rioters said, Oh, yeah, and they ratcheted up the rioting, and they started burning things and blowing up cars and everything else.
So the French military or the French government sent in special ops teams.
I didn't even know the French had special ops.
Why do the French have special ops?
Why do they have special?
But they apparently do.
They sent 400 uh cops in with military style gear, and they couldn't stop it.
De Villapan, the poet, what is he, the prime minister and uh Shiraq, the uh what is he, the president?
Yeah, so the president vice president, they both canceled foreign trips to deal with this crisis.
What has come to be learned about the population here that's going berserk is that it is like eighty percent Muslim, and most of it is from Algeria.
Most of them are Algerians, and most of them are from as uh Amir Taheri said today in the New York Post from the uh from from black nations in Africa.
And most of them are Muslim, and they don't believe in French socialism.
They don't believe in this great idyllic peaceful coexistence with the French because they don't believe in socialism they they believe that Islam ought to rule France.
This is simply I'll tell you what this is.
This is a result of arrogance and hubris on the part of the French for thinking their system is the best in the world, and anybody that came to it could be tamed and would live side by side with one another in a wonderful experiment to show how humanity can get along.
They also thought they were buying insurance by not helping us out against Saddam and Iraq.
That's a huge lesson here.
That's what they're scratching their heads about.
Devil Pen probably wants to go to these neighborhoods.
Don't you know I put my life on the line at the United Nations Security Council in Chirac too.
Doesn't matter.
All they did was show what a bunch of weak people they are.
They showed how how how how easily malleable they are.
We all know why they did what they did at the Security Council.
They had all kinds of financial dealings with Saddam, not just the oil for food program, but other things going on as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if the French are involved in this whole Joe Wilson story somehow involving these forged documents about uh uh Yellow Cake and uh and Niger.
You know, that there's a there's too many forged documents going around in this whole story, and it seems to me that it would it would it wouldn't surprise me if the French trying to stop us from doing anything in Iraq would set Bush up with this phony story and and uh a bunch of forged documents.
I don't know this.
I'm just guessing, but I I don't think the French let me put this as a negative.
I think the French are as dirty in this as anybody can be, and they're getting their just desserts here.
I'm not I'm not experiencing Shaden Freud over this, because this is gonna happen everywhere, these people are not stood up to.
The bottom line is today France, tomorrow, well, yesterday Madrid, today France, where next?
Well, wherever nobody wants to stand up to them.
And wherever a nation of people thinks we can purchase goodwill by hating the United States is gonna find themselves in the same circumstance that's happening now.
At the root of this, by the way, I should point out is the lax immigration problem that the French uh have.
See, they they th what was happening, these people were dribbling in in in in small groups, and the French said, This is good.
This is good they will assimilate into our fine upstanding superior culture.
Well, they started to started im immigrating in much greater numbers, and then they said the hell with assimilating.
We're gonna live in France as we lived in Algeria.
We're just gonna move Algeria to France.
And the same thing's going in Great Britain, and that's why immigration, among many other reasons, is such a key issue here.
Uh quick time out, we'll be back after this.
Stay with us.
It's open line Friday.
I am Rush Limbull, America's anchor man, having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have, and we go to Naples, Florida.
Hi, Sarah.
It's uh Rush, how are you?
Fine, great to have you with us.
Well, thanks.
Um I just uh you know, I I know you're a great cheerleader for the president, but um I just think things are starting to fall apart, and I think it's due to his incompetence.
I think he he really hasn't been very successful at any job he's ever had.
And I think that he he blew it with this war, and he blew it with Katrina, and I just think he's been exposed for for really what he is.
Um how how did he blow it with a war?
Well, I don't think he planned it properly.
I don't think I mean now we're going to go from a one-star general to a three-star general.
Yeah, that's that I agree with you there.
I we need a four-star general in this, and why he started.
Yeah, and you know, how about now two thousand and twenty-five dead soldiers?
Who would have ever thought that in a war?
I mean, I I'm I'm stunned.
I could I I'm glad you called, actually, because I can't believe that it's actually disintegrated to this degree.
It's not a smart war we're waging at all.
And they're a very smart enemy, and we're just not we're not being very smart about it.
No, I I uh uh yeah.
Yeah, we need we need who do who do you think would be better doing this than Bush?
Because we do have a problem.
Who I think it's Rumsfeld.
I mean, I think he could get rid of it.
No, no, I know.
I look at you you're giving me all the skunks.
I want to know who do you think would be good to do this?
Who would be run a war?
Yeah, who should be well give me a smart person to run the war.
I mean, i obviously I'm not I'm not in that I that's not my job.
And I don't think it's anybody's job, but the White House's job.
Sarah, Sarah, wait a minute.
You're very, very sharp.
You're very smart.
You can see that Bush and Rumsfeld are not smart and they're not the right ones to be uh Well, but you gotta know who then is.
I mean, if you can see if it's it's you can't have one without the other.
If these guys are incompetent.
I'm afraid it's the same as with Vietnam, that the the Pentagon is not running things.
I think that the White House is, and if the Pentagon were in charge, not the not the Well, but see that's Rumsfeld, not wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
But that's Rumsfeld.
Rumsfeld's the Pentagon.
So it's Yeah, but he's the civilian part of the Pentagon.
I mean the I mean the military, just like in Vietnam.
They didn't let the military do the job.
And it it didn't work.
So you'd think they they would have learned from that.
Um it's it's not working this way.
Well, uh who you've got to have an idea that that there's got to be somebody out.
What what would be the smart way to fight the war?
We all want to know.
Well, I would think that they would let the military figure it out and they would work with the military.
I don't think a minute, wait wait a minute.
They all the the Bush has constantly said the generals are running the war, that Abba Zaid over there, he's always said that he's Oh, you don't believe Oh that's right, because Bush is a liar.
I forgot.
We can't trust anything Bush says.
Well, I think it's kind of turning out to be that way.
Yeah.
I think he really has just sort of been exposed.
Yeah.
Who who's exposed him?
Gee, I think he's done it to himself.
I really do.
I think What did he do in Katrina?
What how did he screw up the hurricane?
I thought the hurricane, in fact, I thought the hurricane was designed to destroy New Orleans and kick all those Democrats out of there and scatter them around the country.
I thought Bush did a great job, and Katrina.
I mean, if it's gonna hit anywhere in New Orleans is a perfect place to how did he screw that up?
That's one area I'm willing to give him credit.
You're you know, I I feel badly for you, Rush.
I think that you're losing it.
I I just think you've got to admit that maybe maybe this guy's wrong.
And you're gonna just be able to do that.
I'm trying to agree with you.
I'm trying to agree.
Okay, so we have a minor disagreement about Katrina.
You think he screwed it up.
I think he did, I think he did a great job steering that hurricane working.
So did Brownie, you know.
What was that all about?
Who?
Uh Michael Brown.
Brownie, good job, Brownie.
Excellent job.
Oh, Michael Brown of the FEMA guy?
Yeah.
The FEMA guy.
That was that he just took the fall for Bush.
Bush did all that stupid stuff, not getting FEMA down there.
That was on purpose.
So all those people in New Orleans would be scattered.
Yeah uh you gotta you gotta change your thinking on Bush on that.
That that that Hurricane Katrina was a brilliant political move by Bush, Sarah.
You gotta rethink that.
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We always put them at the uh front of the line because there's always so much to learn from them.
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