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Oct. 20, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 20, 2005, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24-7 podcast.
All right, I think it's showtime because I hear the theme playing.
Is that right?
I Good.
Well, no, sometimes I hear the theme before the show starts when you're testing it as a show.
I know it's showtime.
Literally swamped here, folks.
Um putting on my amateur hurricane hunter hat here, trying to figure out what's going on with this latest hurricane.
And I I admit to being totally confused, but I'm a little frightened to tell you why, because I'm not an expert.
Anyway, greetings and welcome.
It's the Rush Limbaugh program, and we are here and we are ready to go already Thursday on the fastest week in media.
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All right, I I look, I know there are a lot of people in South Florida that that are they're very much concerned about this hurricane of where it's gonna go, and uh I'm one of them.
Uh one of the reasons I don't know whether I'm gonna be able to be here on Monday to do the show or have to go to parts unknown.
Uh I'm gonna be Las Vegas over the weekend for a for a charity golf turn of cap cure, which is prostate cancer.
So I'm in the process of trying to figure out.
I mean, it was the thing is really slowed down.
I was I was thinking I might not be able to get back here uh on on uh Sunday night.
Now uh the hurricane's not supposed to hit until what Sunday night or something like that.
So whether depending on well, I probably have to go to New York anyway.
And I don't you you people do not know how that frosts me.
You just do not know how that friends.
I can't.
It's nothing to do with New York.
I love the city.
And it's nothing to do with the with the staff up there, but I'm not gonna tell you what just it just frosts me that I have no choice in this.
This hurricane, so I'm watching this.
And folks, I don't know whether I should tell you what I think, because I don't want to create any, I mean, I'm not a forecaster.
I'm not, I'm just like you on a consumer.
I I go to as many websites I can find, I look at all these these forecast models.
I compare, I look at a satellite uh loop of the of the hurricane, and I don't see this turn to the Northwest if I'm if I'm in Cancun or in the Yucatan Peninsula.
I'm cussing some people now for telling me that I was gonna be in the clear, because this thing looked like it's gonna cream there.
If it does that, all this category four business is a bunch of worthless BSs as far as ours uh we are concerned, because it's gonna it'll wreck it.
It'll it'll it'll knock it down to a category one or two, but that's not even the big thing.
The big thing is that of all the relevant models, and I've been I'm studying this long enough to know now which models the National Hurricane Center uses a lot and factors a lot which ones I throw out.
For one, there's that there's called the L bar model, and I uh they hardly ever use it, but it shows up on all the model runs when you go to the right websites, and it shows Tampa or in Orlando getting creamed, and it has from the get-go, but they're throwing that out.
The models that they are that they use most, uh only one of them now touches Florida, the rest, and that's the very southern coast of Florida.
The others go through the Florida Straits.
We go through the Florida States.
Uh there's one model, there is one model that still goes right over us, and that's the GFDL model, and that appears to be the one that they're relying on because all the other models are moving south and and they haven't moved the forecast track uh at all.
Uh and they well, we need a couple three model runs, Mr. Limbaugh, in order to put high confidence now.
I understand in the models, and I I understand that.
But, you know, I I I have to confess that uh I'd say eight out of ten times they're right and I'm wrong.
I mean, I I'm not I'm not the expert here.
I did win my bet that the last hurricane Rita was gonna hit Louisiana, not Texas.
I did win that one.
It was close.
It was close.
But now this thing's not supposed to even get it really slow down, and depending on how long it spins over the Yucatan, it may not get here till Sunday night.
Uh so.
Anyway, throw things up into a tizzy here, and you have to make um appropriate plans to handle either circumstance.
And that's been that's what I've been doing here.
So when the theme starters is showtime already.
Because frankly, I haven't been doing any show prep for the last 30 minutes.
I've been watching this hurricane stuff.
I'm ready to go.
I mean, don't misunderstand, don't worry about it, folks.
I can do this show without prep for at least two days in a row because my prep is good for two days.
You know, one night of prep for me is the equivalent of six months of prep for most other hosts.
So don't sweat that.
So where are we gonna start here?
How about Robert Novak's column?
George W. Bush's agents, this is how he starts.
George W. Bush's agents have convinced conservative Republican senators who are heart sick over his nomination of Harriet Myers to the Supreme Court that they must support her to save his presidency.
But that doesn't guarantee her confirmation.
Ahead are hearings of unspeakable ugliness that can be prevented only if Democratic senators exercise unaccustomed restraint.
You want me to translate this for you?
You really want me to translate this?
Let me read the next graph.
Will the Judiciary Committee Democrats insist on putting under oath two Texas judges who are alleged to have guaranteed during a conference call of Christian conservatives that Myers would vote to overturn Roe v.
Wade.
Will the Democrats dig into Myers' alleged interference nine years ago?
As Texas Lottery Commission chairman intended to save then Governor Bush from political embarrassment.
Officials charged with winning Myers' confirmation told me neither of these issues is troublesome, but in fact they suggest incompetence and neglect by the White House to permit a conference call with scores of participants hearing close associates of the nominee predict her vote on abortion is incompetent.
To nominate somebody implicated in a state lottery dispute in the past without carefully considering the consequences goes beyond incompetence to arrogant neglect.
President Bush was not originally prepared for the negative reaction from his base when he nominated uh Myers, his longtime personal lawyer.
Former Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie leading the confirmation campaign over two weeks, convinced skeptics that Myers is conservative enough.
Whatever her qualifications, dubious Republican senators, after hearing from Gillespie decided they couldn't deny his chosen court nominee to a president on the ropes.
Bush has solidified Republican support not because he's strong, but because he looks weak.
And they need to rally around him.
That's Novak's theme.
Myers remains so shaky.
However, she may not be able to survive confirmation hearings that go beyond sparring over how much of her judicial philosophy she will reveal.
That is why John Funn's column in Monday's Wall Street Journal chilled the president's backers.
He reported a conference call with religious conservatives October 3rd, the day the Myers nomination was announced, that indicated a lack of White House control over the process.
John Fund wrote that Texas Supreme Court Justice Nathan Hecht and U.S. District Judge Ed Kincaid on the conference call flatly predicted their friend Myers would rule against Roe v.
Wade.
Although the two jurists deny that, I, Robert Novak, checked with two sources on the conference call, one of them Valerie Plame.
Just kidding.
Gotcha.
Who confirmed Funn's version?
That raises the possibility of bringing two judges under oath before the Senate committee to grill them on what they said and what Myers told them.
All right, that's the basic thrust of the Novak piece.
Let me go back to this first paragraph.
George W. Bush's agents have convinced conservative Republican senators who were heart sick over his nomination of Harriet Myers to the Supreme Court that they must support her to save his presidency, but that doesn't guarantee her confirmation.
Ahead are hearings of unspeakable ugliness that can be prevented only if Democrat senators exercise unaccustomed restraint.
The unaccustomed restraint, don't call Nathan Heck, don't call anybody anything to do with that conference call.
Let it go.
We believe Democrats are going to do that.
The second thing about unspeakable ugliness, and this relates to the questionnaire that she filled out.
So, Some of the Democrats who have read it, and you know, there's our old buddy Spectre, who's out there spec.
Anytime anybody criticizes Harriet Myers, our old buddy Senator Specter stands, you have no right.
You need to leave this poor woman alone.
Yet it's not George Job.
I think she's a fine person.
He can attack her all he wants, sitting right next to Patrick Leahy at the same time.
And he did.
And Leah did.
The Democrats are saying they looked at her questionnaire, and I can tell.
I can read their body language, folks.
I mean, the Democrats are vicious.
They are mean-spirited and extreme, but not even they will kick the cat around.
I mean, you know, not even they.
I mean.
They said.
They said that the questionnaire was incompetent.
They said that it was embarrassing.
They said that it was insulting.
What do they mean by this?
What do they mean by it's insulting?
What do you think it means, Mr. Sturdley, when they say it's insulting?
They what they're what what what what what what they're no, what they're saying is um what they're what they're saying is that uh.
Oh, folks, I hate this.
I just I just hate this.
Some of it's confirming my instincts on this whole dreaded thing.
It's such a pity it needn't have happened.
When they say it is insulting, uh take a break.
Feedback here.
President Bush spoke about the Harriet Myers nomination.
By the way, greetings and uh and welcome back.
Oh, for you NFL fans, uh, try this.
Uh the National Football League has got a problem on Sunday.
The uh Kansas City Chiefs are doing to play the Miami Dolphins at one PM at Dolphins Stadium.
Now, I frankly think whether there's a hurricane or not, they should play the game.
Football is a game meant to be played outdoors in the elements.
If there's a hurricane going on, you have to game plan for it.
You have to play.
I mean, I would love to see a football game in a hurricane, but it won't happen.
Have the safety of the fans to worry about and all that.
So they're thinking of moving the game.
Now the the logical thing to do would be move the game to Kansas City.
Kansas City, you know, has an open date because they're scheduled to be on the road, so nobody's using the stadium.
There's no tractor pull or anything going on, uh, which are big in Kansas City.
So you could well, that's they've used it for that.
I mean, they did when I lived there.
Uh but I think the league is still stung over letting the Saints having the New York Giants get an extra home game against the Saints during the Saints home opener, so they're thinking of moving the game to tomorrow.
An NFL game on a Friday.
Now I hope they've told the Chiefs because the Chiefs are gonna have to leave today in order to get there.
That that that would be unprecedented.
They can't do it Saturday because that's when the hurricane arrives, so or they did not know.
Doesn't arrive till Sunday, but it's gonna get close and uh travel and all that, so I just wanted to pass this on to you.
Stick with Harriet Myers here for just a second.
Um the um again, uh folks, the senators who've looked at her questionnaire, some of them are have real the the kindest way to say this is they've been unimpressed.
Uh and and when you go back to Novak's first paragraph here, Democratic senators exercise unaccustomed restraint.
I think what he also means here is hold your fire because it isn't necessary.
Uh in fact, I once two weeks ago gave some advice to the Democrats in that committee how they could best handle themselves during this upcoming hearing.
And if you want me to repeat it, I will.
I know it's gonna upset some of you.
I know there's a very tense and touchy subject for a lot of you out there, as I've heard from you, but it it just it just doesn't appear that let's put it this way her her questionnaire was not impressive.
Now that would be the best way to say this.
So Bush was asked about this today during his press conference uh with the uh Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.
Reuters reporter Steve Holly Alreuters reporter Steve Holland says Senator Specter called the rollout of the Myers nomination chaotic.
Is that a fair criticism?
Are you satisfied with the way the nomination's been handled?
Would you be willing to release any more documents about her if it would help?
One thing the questionnaire does show, if people look at it carefully is Harriet's judicial philosophy.
And uh the main case.
Oh, that Hold it.
Hold it.
Hold it.
Is that Calypso Louie in the background?
We got two things fired at once there.
Is that what happened?
Oh, it's a cart that wasn't clean.
All right.
I think you know what?
You better check all the sound bites, because if we didn't bulk erase all the let's just put one in.
Put the second bite in.
Let me hear the second bite.
Let's just find out right now if they're all dirty.
We can take care of this problem right now and redo it.
I've got a job to do.
Part of my job is to be a good thing.
That's fine.
That's fine.
That one's clean.
Let me hear number one again, recue it.
Maybe we can still distill it.
Even I mean, I have the ability, I've got the transcript here.
I know what he said.
Put number one back in there again.
Hey, this is real radio that's as it happens when you have interns working for you.
What can you do?
Hit it.
I said if you elect me, I will name people that will have that judicial philosophy.
And then I have two chances.
One, John Roberts.
And now Harriet Myers.
And they share the same judicial philosophy.
That's what the questionnaire says.
And uh out of this will come a clear picture of a competent, strong, capable woman who shares the same judicial philosophy that I share.
We don't want to guess about it.
We don't want to be a big thing.
I'm telling you, it was Lewis following Ruth.
I'm telling you, folks, Lewis Farrakhan was part of that sound bite.
Do I know what I hear when I know what I hear it, or do I know it?
That was Calypso Louie.
We f we failed to bulk the cart that we last used for that.
But anyway, here's what the president said in response to the question.
He said, one thing the questionnaire does show if people look at it carefully, is Harriet's judicial philosophy.
And it's the main reason I picked her to serve on the bench, if confirmed.
And that and that is that she's not going to legislate from the bench.
She will strictly interpret the Constitution.
I said that when I ran for president.
I said if you elect me, I'll name people that'll have that judicial philosophy.
I've now had two chances, John Roberts and now Harriet Myers.
And they share the same judicial philosophy.
That's what the questionnaire says.
And so Harriet'll answer all the questions asked.
And but out of this will come a clear picture of a competent, strong, capable woman who shares the same judicial philosophy that I share.
All right.
Now I understand Democrats can look at this questionnaire and they can they can kind of can say whatever they want about it.
They can they can try to imply that.
See, there's the just doesn't have the the uh folks, I can't do that.
You know, I'm I'm sitting here, I'm just I'm trying as best I can to be as diplomatic and polite as I can be, but um the they're they're I don't know what they mean by insulting in her answers.
They're they're pretty straightforward.
I I think they're trying to create the impression that she's a lightweight, are they not?
They're trying to create the impression that she's a lightweight, that she doesn't measure up academically and uh and and this sort of thing.
And so uh inspectors out there, he's he's kind of giving the impression too that that he's not all that impressed uh with this.
And of course, this this partisan battle that's going on in Washington, you uh uh you have to understand these people are gonna say vicious things, mean spirited things.
Uh have you seen the questionnaire?
Have you have you uh uh I I didn't spend time reading it.
You agree that it's vacant, uh Mr. Sturdly?
Do you not not nothing on you?
Snerdley, who uh what law school did you graduate from?
Snurdley is a graduate of the Limbaugh Institute legal wing, and he says it looked good to him.
I really I I uh I haven't read it.
Here's the second Bush soundbite.
This question from uh the reporter Terrence Hunt, Mr. President, there are a lot of distractions for your White House, CIA leak investigation, conservative uproar, congressional criticism over the Myers nomination, and even investigations of top Republican leaders in Congress.
How preoccupied is the White House by these problems, and how are you dealing with them?
I've got a job to do.
Part of my job is to work with others to fashion a world that'll be peaceful for future generations.
And uh got a job to do to make sure this economy continues to grow.
I got a job to make sure that uh there's a plausible reconstruction plan for cities affected by Katrina.
Got a job to make sure this hurricane headed toward Florida as uh the federal response is prepared for it.
So to answer your question, uh there's some background noise here.
A lot of chatter, a lot of uh speculation And opining.
But the American people expect me to do my job, and I'm going to.
Well, you've got piled on again yesterday.
Uh apparently the man who was the chief of staff for Colin Powell went over to something called the when I want to get this right.
The new some new liberal think tank.
And I didn't know it was a liberal think tank till I looked it up last night when I saw this.
The new darn it, I can't find the new American something or other.
Let me get the name of this.
It should be right here in the first paragraph of this New America Foundation.
There it is.
Um this this this guy, when you read his comments, said look, Dick Cheney came and took over the whole foreign policy operation, stole it from out from underneath everybody.
Cheney and Madeline and Rumsfeld, they turn it into a cabal and they hijacked foreign policy, and that's why this country's in bad shape.
Colin Powell's chief of staff made the speech.
I'll give you the tales.
When we come back, stay with us.
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All right, it's official now.
The uh Kansas City Chiefs will play the Miami Dolphins Friday night at seven uh at uh Dolphin Stadium uh in Davy.
Uh the Davy Dolphins, the Fort Lauderdale Dolphins, whatever they are, it's gonna be a seven o'clock there on uh on Friday night.
Rita in Tucson, Arizona.
Let me grab this phone call real quickly.
Thank you for calling, and welcome to the EIB network, the one and only.
Rush?
Yes.
Hi, Rush.
This is Rita.
Yes.
I can't believe I'm sitting here with in bed with my husband.
He's a big fan of yours.
I I've gotten you on every thing in my house because of him.
I said I I have to eat, sleep, and breeze Rush Limbaugh.
But I'm sitting here thinking, come on, Rush, who are you kidding?
Spit it out what you feel about Judge Meyer.
This is not like you to hedge and hedge.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
Well, either you're you can't do it because it's what you think, or come on, you know, I can't believe you pulled it.
It is sort of unique, the Odin audience goading me into speaking.
Uh first, read a question.
You're in Tucson.
By my calculations, it makes it about 1034 1034, 1035 out there.
It's 9 30 right now.
9 30, sorry, but so what are you still doing in bed?
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know, I'm retired, uh, live in Saddlebrook, and I'm just okay.
That that's that's good enough, answer.
I take my time.
Well, I don't I don't blame you.
I uh uh one little bit, plus you're a woman.
But if the gorgeous gorgeous day.
Yeah, and uh hope you and hope you get to experience the fullness of it too.
Oh, yes.
Well, what what I'm afraid of, uh Rita, just uh you want me to spit it out.
What Novak says here is the unspeakable ugliness that can be prevented.
I think there's two things here.
One is subpoenaing these two guys that participated on the conference call with the religious leaders and guaranteed them a uh a vote by Harriet Myers on Roe vs.
Wade.
That that that would that would be pretty ugly.
I think the second ugly thing that could possibly happen is um I can't say it.
Why not?
I mean, ugly is what the liberals fit out.
I mean, you know, I've read Ann Coulter's write-up on this, and boy, she didn't hold back at all.
Well uh I'm disappointed.
I'm really disappointed.
I'm that's what I got you what are you disappointed in?
Well, I'm not a legal expert at all.
All I do, I tell my kids we've got two kids that are liberals and two kids that are uh Republicans, and you know, but uh I kind of go with the flow and my husband, I don't have much choice, and but he's got me believing in you.
But the thing is, this really disappoints us.
Oh, because I mean there's gonna be a fight anyway.
Why not have it a really good fight over somebody who all the No, I I I understand that.
I I I you know uh have uttered the uh same you know desire and I've expressed my reasons, which I really don't want to rehash here.
Uh the reason I'm reason I'm holding back is because I don't know the woman, and it I'm just what I'm afraid of is that all this is leading up to the fact that she's not the brightest bulb in the room, and it's going to be on display for the whole country to see, and it's going to be embarrassing.
And I it's just I hope I'm wrong about that, but I think that's that's what uh some of the people who've read her resume, or not a resume, their questionnaire are uh alluding to, and you have to factor in, folks.
What the one thing you have to factor in here is that that since it's out there that has been put out there by two of her well-known friends and supporters that she is ardently pro-life and is guaranteed to vote to overturn Roe versus Wade.
I mean, that's you talk about jet fuel for a hurricane.
That's jet fuel for liberal Democrats to gin up the typical we can't support this nominee and do whatever they're gonna do to destroy her, and part of the destroying process, the destruction process, may be this attempt to put it out there that she's a dim bulb based on her questionnaire, which, if if if they succeed with that might fire up the conservatives who are upset with this already and make them even angrier.
And all of that leads to unspeakable ugliness because it's all going to take place in public.
Uh it could be the public embarrassment of a woman who's done nothing wrong.
It could be the public humiliation of a woman who's been nominated for something that she's really not qualified to do, and if that's what everybody's talking about, it would be ugly.
It was there's no reason to put anybody through that.
Uh there are others who say, nah, that's not what this is.
Questionnaire's not that bad.
This is uh still a bunch of gamesmanship that's uh that's going on out there.
But I I whatever, whether it's unspeakable ugliness or something else, I am telling you that it is going to be fireworks.
These hearings are going to burn brightly.
It is, it is it's it's gonna be fascinating to watch the way both sides do this.
And now with these Republican senators having been approached by people uh uh from the White House saying, you've got to support this nomination.
This is the presidency we're talking about saving here.
Uh the the impression and and by the way, uh Rush, do you believe that?
Well, I I'm I'm looking at some senators whose initial reaction was much like mine, and now they're turning into supporters.
Uh and and they have a far more party loyalty requirement than somebody like me would have.
Uh, and they would be open to uh such appeals.
So um again, we will uh we'll just have to wait and see, as is the case with with the like the CIA leak and all that, says so more rumors out there about uh Cheney resigning now to take the bullet.
Supposedly there are two people that are in testifying from Cheney's office uh that have turned and are providing state evidence.
Uh, and it's being spun now that Cheney will resign, take the bullet, and uh this will open up the vice presidency for Condoleezza Rice.
That will set her up to oppose Hillary in 2004 last night on Hardball, we've got I think we got the sound bites coming up.
Uh Chris Matthews actually said that the White House lied to the New York Times to get us into war.
And I'm watching this, and I'm whoa, we went to war because the New York Times said it was okay.
The New York Times agreed there's weapons.
The White House knew that the only way we could go to war is if the New York Times okayed it.
I went along with it.
Yeah, Deborah Oren uh was was uh was on the program and and uh had some some pretty wise things to say.
We got all these sound bites coming up as well, and somebody, it might have even been uh Chatsworth Osborne Jr. uh uh Tucker Carlson was on later who said, You really Chris, you're going off the deep end here.
Do you really believe that this is all about lying to the New York Times in order to get us into the war in Iraq?
What about the Democrats in the Senate?
What about the Democrats who authorized the war in Iraq and voted for it?
They had intelligence that was far more detailed than what the New York Times had or was being told by the White House.
It's just gotten to the point now that it's absurd.
But here's something else to consider.
We have it's not just Chris Matthews.
There are journalists all over the place that are one of two things happening.
Either they are making it up or somebody's leaking.
And I I need to ask you a question.
You need to think about this.
Are all of these journalists, are all of them this capable of making it all up?
Or is it that there are lawyers who represent people who've gone in there and testified, who are now testifying or leaking to the press under the condition of anonymity, and that becomes the sources close to the investigation.
You know, it's uh uh it's interesting to to just see how this keeps ramping up with nothing official that has uh that's come down the pike.
And I I I ask myself, would all of these, I mean, I could have said a lot of reporters going off deep end and being swayed by their hopes and dreams, but all of them engaging in making something up?
Um so I I think it's it's probably a little bit of both, uh, but we still uh at the most rudimentary level of this investigation don't know anything.
We don't know anything official.
And then the the next question is how many people outside the beltway at this stage even really care about it or understand it?
Uh not you, I mean, you people who listen to this program regularly are are up to speed on it and have a pretty good handle on it.
And I've got to take a break.
I did not mean I've not forgotten the story on Colin Powell's chief of staff, uh savaging Cheney and Rumsfeld and so forth.
You've got to hear this.
I'll get to it right after the break, and we'll get back to more of your phone calls.
Stay with us, the EIB network rolls on.
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Now, Snerdley sent me what I'm sure he thinks is a brilliant and penetrating question here during the break.
He said, boss, I don't understand something.
If Clinton can tell us that he wouldn't nominate anybody, it would overturn Roe v.
Wade, and Democratic senators can use the same test.
What's the big deal if somebody predicts that she would vote against Roe v.
Wade?
Why are we so afraid of that?
I don't think your premise is exactly right.
I don't, when Ruth Bader Ginsburg went up there, she wouldn't answer the question.
And I'm I don't recall Clinton saying he was going to appoint people at Roe v.
Wade.
Uh if he well, if he did he used those words, he made it a litmus test.
He did make, he's I'm never going to put somebody up there that will vote to overturn Roe v.
Wade.
Well, uh you may be right.
She got 90, what, two or 95 votes or something like that.
The Republicans didn't oppose her.
Same thing with Briar.
Uh we all know in point of fact that that's what the Democrats do.
We all know they go out and find pro-choice, pro-roe judges and nominate them and give them hand glove treatment, kid glove treatment during the hearings and so forth.
The problem with this is that the president, George W. Bush, has said he has no litmus test.
George Bush has not said the opposite of what Clinton has said.
George W. Bush has said, I've not talked about abortion with her.
George W. Bush, I don't know what she's going to do with it.
We didn't discuss it.
Whether you believe it or not, that's what he said.
Then you have these two guys convening this conference call with the religious leaders assuring them that they know that Harriet's going to vote the right way on Roe v.
Wade, which means that the White House has lost control of the process.
If if you've got people out there doing private conference calls with religious leaders contradicting what the president has said, you've got a problem.
And then if those people end up being subpoenaed, one of them is the is the Supreme Court Justice of Texas.
State Supreme Court just, Nathan Hecht, if these guys end up being subpoenaed up, they're all hell's going to break loose.
Uh and that's the unspeakable ugliness that Novak is talking about.
How do you know she's going to vote for Roe vs.
How do you know she has uh she told you about what is it, personal belief or is it a matter of law?
All kinds of hell would break out over this.
It might be fun to watch, and it might uh it might actually tip the balance here, might, it might in in in its own way serve to have this little debate that some of us uh want want to have, but but when the Republican side officially is uh look,
we've got no litmus test here, we're originalists, we're looking for original intent, we're looking for constitutionalists, uh, and then and then to go out and pitch the nominee to religious leaders on the basis of one issue uh is you know, I just it doesn't seem to be that there's any coordination going on here.
It's not I don't think it's a matter that that you know we can't do it in the Democrats can.
Uh but I will tell you this.
I do think sterily, I do think you have a point.
Because I frankly am getting worn out with a lot of people on our side afraid to be public about what they believe.
If they're against abortion, then say it.
If they think Roe vs.
Wade is bad law, then say it.
Let us know where you stand on this.
I don't know why it is, and this is I don't know why it is sort of what one of the things that that angers me about this.
Why it is we have to keep acting stealth, why it is we cannot act like we're leading a movement, why it is we have to pretend that we're not conservative, and I'm not talking about me.
Why it is we have to pretend that we've got to bring the left into our camp to get them to go along with us before we can get anywhere.
It all offends me.
We're winning elections.
We're the we're the ones out there we're creating majorities on the basis of what we believe.
Then after we win these elections, we sort of power down and start acting like, well, you know, we just had to say that to get our votes.
But don't think I'm one of those crazed right wingers.
I'm actually a mainstream moderate thinking kind of person.
Well, the hell with that.
The idea there's something to be ashamed of here, even on abortion, is infuriating.
And so if uh if that's what she happens, why in fact, why should it why should it disqualify her if she is pro-choice, pro-life?
Why should that be an automatic DQ, folks?
The only reason it's an automatic DQ is because we're still letting the left define terms here, letting the mainstream press define terms.
Why do we turn it around and say pro-life is the default position for a reasonable person?
Or at least it's a position that does not have to be explained.
You don't have to be, you know, sent to an insane asylum in a little white coat before you can start answering why you're for it.
So in that sense, you know, it it is it is a bit frustrating.
The only thing about this that is troubling to me is the White House saying something totally opposite what was going on in this conference call.
And if I know the Democrats, they're not going to do what Novak suggests and play this close to the vest.
They're going to try to blow this up to smithereens, and it may result in the debate we want.
At least over um at least over one thing.
Brian in Otisville, New York.
Hello, sir, and welcome to the program.
Nice to have you with us.
Hey, Rosh, I first just wanted to say I had a great time at the Broadway show the other night.
I'm glad you were I I did too.
I fed off the energy of all of you who were there, and I I really appreciate it.
I showed up in a lot of the pictures I'm wearing a straw hat and the old school dittohead t-shirt.
But um anyway, Rush, I want to say, do you think it might be wise for the conservatives to kind of sit back and allow the Democrats to derail this nomination for them?
Uh well, I don't know that we have anything to You mean the conservative senators, conservative Republican senators on the committee.
Yeah, the one or two that actually, you know, are wise.
See, I uh you're now you're touching on on the bit of advice I gave to the Democrats the other.
If the Democrats were smart, which they're not, if if the Democrats could just exercise a little self-control, seeing what they're seeing from some of the conservatives in the Republican Party about this nomination,
if they were smart, they would ask, they would treat this woman so kindly and so reverentially with such respect, and they wouldn't get into a a bunch of uh uh controversial questions with her, just ask her deep and detailed historical, constitutional questions based on deep precedent historical content of Supreme Court decisions, and if she can answer them, fine.
If she can't, then let it be the Republicans who kill the nomination, not them.
If they were smart, and if that's the way this is going to shape out, uh uh then that's what they would do.
But if if the Democrats kill the nomination, it would uh uh that would clearly be uh if it's to be killed.
And I don't want to prejudge this, because I I'm not so convinced that it's not she's not gonna be confirmed.
Most people think she's going to be confirmed, by the way, uh that I talk to.
But if there's any killing of this nomination, yeah, it would probably be better if the Democrats were the ones to do it, at least in a uh political sense.
Up against it on time, sorry, folks, but we'll be Back with much more briefly, shortly, in just a minute.
Whatever.
Folks, it may sound like I'm having trouble staying focused, but I never lose focus.
Even we get off on a tangent, we don't lose our discussion on relevance and important things.
And I will get to this speech made by the vice president, well, the chief of staff to Colin Powell.
I will get to that, and I'll do it today.
It won't be tomorrow.
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