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Sept. 29, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 29, 2005, Thursday, Hour #2
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Hey, have you seen the headlines, the headlines of the cable uh cable news network uh cr uh Chiron or graphic slugs?
Something along the lines of wind-fueled fire threatens Southern California homes.
Now this fire started in Chatsworth, California.
Chatsworth, California happens to be where the Fox TV series 24 is shot.
So I sent a I sent a note to my friend out there, Joel Cerno, the creator and executive producer, said, hey, did whatever terrorists you're using in the upcoming season.
They started shooting a new season back in July.
I said, whatever terrorists get upset with the scripts that you're right about them, and they set the fire.
Anyway, wind, wind fueled fire.
I wonder if this wind is hotter than it has been in previous years, brought about by global warming.
Anyway, Joel wrote me back, said, No, no, no, no, no.
My my my terrorists are not unhappy with the script yet.
They're still winning.
Uh Bush started to fire.
Don't you know Rush?
At any rate, here's telephone number 800-282-2882, and the email address is Rush at EIBNet.com.
The Clinton legacy.
I just have some bullet points here.
For those of you who again are new to all this, and I know that our our tune-in factor on this program during uh crises like this spikes uh at new high levels each and every uh every crisis.
And so delay is corrupt.
And there's a there's a there's a what are they calling it?
A uh a climate of corruption is the phrase that the media is using to describe the uh Republican Party.
All right, here's the here are the records set during the Clinton administration.
The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance.
The most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates.
There's a little asterisk here, and the asterisk says, according to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate.
A reader computes that there were a total of 31 Reagan-era convictions, including 14 because of Iran Contras, 16 in the Department of Housing and Urban Development scandal.
Forty-seven individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton administration were convicted of or pleading guilty to crimes, with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself.
There were, in addition, 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges.
A key difference between the Clinton story and early ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.
The most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation, Clinton administration.
The most number of witnesses to flee the country or refuse to testify, Clinton administration.
The most number of witnesses to die suddenly, Clinton administration.
The first president sued for sexual harassment, Bill Clinton.
The first president accused of rape, Bill Clinton.
First First Lady to come under criminal investigation, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case, Bill Clinton.
First president to establish a legal defense fund, Bill Clinton.
The first president to be held in contempt of court, Bill Clinton.
Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions, Bill Clinton.
Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad, Bill Clinton.
And all of these records are backed up by pages and pages and pages of the uh of the documentation to prove it.
It's the Progressive Review, uh, the Clinton Legacy.
And I stumbled across this last night.
It's a very long piece.
I I have five pages of it.
I'm not going to read a whole thing, but I just wanted to give you these bullet points.
Just to put things in perspective.
You know, people's memories uh are sometimes short.
I was reading uh conservative publications today, too, The American Spectator, which is uh it's uh is one of my all-time favorites.
Bob Tyrrell uh has just done an amazing thing uh with the American Spectator and their website.
And it's a very uh it's a it's a it's a very independent uh publication.
They've got uh a number of writers from different walks of life writing about a whole bunch of different things, and they don't always uh you know, they're not in lockstep, and they're not they're not right down the uh uh the right side of the aisle uh in a predictable fashion.
And then one example is today a piece by a man made named John Tabin.
And uh I I just want to read the last line of the piece by Mr. Tabin today uh in The American Spectator, whether or not Tom DeLay's actually dirty.
Republicans should let him hang out to drive.
And I'm sure Mr. Tabin's not the only person saying this.
I'm sure that there will be a number of conservatives, and primarily those who live and work in Washington, who will want to uh, you know, this delay guy, he's been a problem.
He's a he focuses all his attention on himself, takes the attention off the agenda.
He is a problem for us.
Let's just use this as an opportunity to let delay hang out and drive.
That's just gonna get somebody else in there to run the show.
And we conservatives, for all of you out there who think that there's this united front, the conservative movement today is not nearly as united as you would think.
It's grown, it's large.
There's a there's a tremendous competition within the conservative movement for leadership and primacy and all this.
And so conservatives, uh, you know, they're all trying to be the smartest people in the room, and and uh the the no none of them want to be typecast, and some conservatives don't want to be associated with others.
Uh it's it's like any other large group of people.
And these uh the Beltway conservatives uh do like to say and write things that occasionally they think will curry favor with the D.C. liberals.
Uh liberals still do run that town and it and they still do define that culture.
Uh and I think I don't know if Mr. Tabin lives there, it's it's not the point.
I think his his his um his last line here is just something I have you seen it elsewhere, have you seen Mr. Snowdley?
Others not you haven't seen it elsewhere.
Well, you will in in time, I I predict.
But my reaction to this this idea, okay, let's just let Delay hang out to dry.
D does anybody know really why Delay is being pursued?
Delay has been the most effective guy in Congress getting the Republican agenda through.
You can say Newt Gingrich did a lot and he did.
But particularly during the Bush administration, I mean, Delay has pushed the Republican agenda.
He's kept that caucus in line, and he has, and he is a conservative, and he's also a born-again Christian, and that doesn't help him with this uh with his enemies.
They really just despise him for that.
That's just uh something they you know, the only religion you're supposed to have is no religion.
Uh it's supposed to be a secularist, and even those people are religious, they just don't even know it.
Uh but but that's beside the point.
Here's the point.
DeLay is innocent.
Hasn't been accused, he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.
All these charges, all these allusions to charges, all of these, all of these horror stories about what Tom Delay's, he's not been convicted of anything.
And this indictment doesn't specify one thing.
I don't want to beat a dead horse to death, but it doesn't specify one thing that he did.
The the indictment does not does not connect Tom Delay to any crime.
Not a single fact is alleged in this indictment.
And experienced lawyers will tell you, lawyers who've seen gazillions of indictments will tell you that indictments carry a list of charges.
That's how you know what you're being charged with.
It's you know, you have a when you're when you're accused and you're being charged with it, you have a right to know what it is.
There's nothing in this indictment that specifies what Delay did.
So you have to ask, do we still live in the United States of America?
Is someone charged with a crime, they have a legal right to know exactly what it is they're being accused of.
Otherwise, they can't defend themselves.
If we can't accept that principle and defend that principle, then just how far have we sunk as a movement and as a party and as a country, throw the guy out because we don't think he's gonna be effective anymore.
What why why should we let Delay or anybody else that's accused in this manner on our side hang?
What's the point here?
Just because the Democrats have succeeded in criminalizing their differences with not only Delay, but the president and the Republican Party, and we might do better politically by buying into their conduct, we can do we can we can have more political success if we accept the notion that we have some bad apples in our bunch and to get rid of them, except when there's no proof that they're bad apples, just when a bunch of liberals say they are, oh, okay, okay, fine.
We'll we'll clean the decks and uh we'll get some people in there you like.
What the hell is this?
You can't surrender to this kind of criminal intimidation.
I mean, how how could we look ourselves in the mirror?
This is an attack on who we are and what we believe, and make no mistake about that.
By going after Tom Delay, these guys are going after the conservative agenda.
It's not just delay, he's effective.
They're going, they're trying to criminalize And make corrupt all of conservatism.
That's the agenda here.
That's the purpose.
It's an attack on the congressional majority.
It's an attack on the institution of Congress generally.
If if some hack local prosecutor can bring an indictment at the 11th hour based on no facts whatsoever, then our democratic institutions are endangered.
People ask, I've got emails all over the.
Well, how can this happen?
How can some prosecutor just level an indictment here with no charge?
How can it happen?
That's the power they have.
That's why there are such phrases as abuse of power.
Prosecutors are invested with a lot of it.
You hope they use it wisely and responsibly.
But what can you do?
If you're the victim of it, what can you do?
You know, you well, why don't you sue for wrongful prosecution?
You can't do that till after the fact when the damage is already done.
Look at Ray Donovan.
He was indicted by uh who was who the one of the Well, Casper Weinberger was indicted uh by a special prosecutor, I forget this loco weed's name, uh, but he was indicted right before the 1992 re-election of George George Bush 41.
There was nothing to it.
And Ray Donovan was acquitted by a jury uh after being indicted by an independent counsel, acquitted in like five hours or something.
He came out of there saying, Where do I go to get my reputation back?
It yeah, you can do that after the fact, but by that time they got your mug shot, they got your fingerprinted, uh, they have you booked, and they like for for in Tom Delay's case, there's gonna be a mug shot, and there if Ronnie Earl can pull it off, he'll get a perp walking handcuffs, folks.
And that will be the video for the rest of his life that the media will use when talking about Tom Delay.
Even after he beats the charge, and each or even after he retains his leadership in Congress.
He'll be referred to as the accused Tom Delay.
Tom DeLay accused of ethics violations and corruption by a prosecutor in Texas, and there will be his mugshot.
Today said that the Democrat minority of 50 members in the House of Representatives will be reduced by five in the next coming election, no matter what happens.
That's that's what they want.
The purpose of the I I I'll bet you there's not even a trial.
I'll bet you this doesn't go.
Now they're gonna schedule a trial, they want to schedule one for 90 days, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's not a trial.
I wouldn't be surprised if something happens and all this gets tossed at some point, because there's nothing here.
But they're gonna have their mugshot, and they're gonna have the video they want, and they're gonna have all that.
That's what this is about.
And if if um you say, what can you do to stop it?
There there isn't much.
Who who can who can go tell a prosecutor you can't do that?
Who can say to a prosecutor, you can't after the prosecutor does it, who can go Only the judge.
Only the judge, only the jury can tell the prosecutor to go to hell.
With a verdict uh of uh not guilty.
A quick time out.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
To the phones we go to Aurora, Illinois.
Mike, I'm glad you called, and I appreciate your patience in waiting.
You are on the EIB network.
Hi.
How are you doing?
Good, sir.
Thank you.
Yeah, I just wanted to comment on this uh this indictment of Tom Delay.
And from just what I read in the Wall Street Journal this morning, I I don't really have all the facts on it, but it basically said that uh that he was accused of funneling corporate campaign contributions to uh people running for office in Texas, you know, gain a seat.
And I just wondered if if is if you feel that that's gonna if the Democrats are gonna be able to gain any traction on that and in using that against them.
Well, uh I don't, because I think this is all gonna blow up in their face.
Uh and I'm probably one of the few people that you will talk to today that thinks that.
I will tell you that most of the Republicans are panicked and are scared to death and are in fear, and that's why more and more of them want to throw delay overboard.
I don't remember anybody suggesting in the Democratic Party they get rid of Clinton to you during all that uh the era of malfeasance and sexual harassment and cigars and so forth.
Uh but I think I think this is going to uh backfire.
Now I'm I'm I'm uh basing this on the fact that I don't think there's anything to this indictment.
I don't think there's anything to the charge.
I don't think there's anything that's gonna stick, and I don't think there's anything in this that anybody else in both parties hasn't been doing for a long, long, long, long time.
It's called politics.
Uh it's it's uh it's it's it's it's no different than any of the other stuff that goes on in the uh in the crystal clear, clean and pure is the wind driven snow world of campaign finance.
Uh but I think as usual, the Democrats are overplaying their hand, and they're gonna continue to with their uh with their buddies in the media.
Don't don't forget they continue here to run for office, not on any agenda.
They're they're trying to set up their re-election chances on the basis that Republicans now operate a climate of corruption.
This is a dead dead on repeat and replay of what they think the Republicans did to defeat the Democrats in ninety-four and to get rid of Clinton.
Now uh well, and not re-elect Gore, there's a big difference.
While all that was going on, and I have no no dispute with the fact that there were ethical problems all over the Democrat run House of Representative Post Office, the House bank for crying out loud.
Uh and and a number Jim Wright and his books and so forth.
Uh and that that's another thing that really got him uh we when when Newt forced Jim Wright to resign, Fort Worthless Jim over that that book deal that he had where the unions bought him in bulk and nobody else did.
Uh, and Jim Wright just cut and pasted a bunch of speeches and in on some pages of his book there was one word, other pages two words or three words just to get the pages up over three hundred or something.
Uh so there's been a lot of desire for payback, but while all that was going on, the Republicans were also advancing an agenda.
Contract with America was first part of it, and they had all kinds of ideas about tax cuts and a number of the things they were telling the American people what we want to do.
Uh and and that continues to this day.
The Republicans have an agenda and they're acting on it.
The president has one.
We disagree with some of it, agree with other parts of it.
But you can't find an agenda on the Democrat side.
What about Iraq?
What are they gonna do?
All they can do is whine and moan and blame and say we should listen to Cindy Sheehan.
Hurricane Katrina, what are we gonna do?
Disaster relief, nine-eleven, war on terror.
What are we gonna do?
You don't know from them.
They haven't got an idea.
Folks, I have a piece here.
Howard Feynman submitted a piece to uh MSNBC, which is the uh the uh serves really as the as the uh internet arm of Newsweek magazine.
This is where Feynman, who is published in Newsweek and write pieces after the magazine comes out.
And this came out just before the delay indictment was handed down, and it's a laundry list of problems the Democrats have.
And it's a laundry list of problems Howard Feynman has with the Democrats for not coming up with solutions to problems and having any ideas and not having any star power and not having a whole lot of things they need to win elections.
And he's wondering why.
He's accusing them of being timid and cowardly and a number of other things.
I will share this with you in the in the uh when we get into the next segment.
But uh I I just I don't think that this is gonna have an effect on the 06 elections uh to the in in the sense that Republicans lose the house.
Uh too many things can happen between now and then, as we have seen just this week and last week with the hurricanes.
We don't know what's gonna happen between now and then.
And to start acting uh defeated and uh dismal and doom and gloom is uh it's uh just a just a bit premature here.
Plus I'm I'm I'm not well I'm not I'm not gonna sit around here myself.
I'm not gonna speak for others.
But I'm not gonna sit around here and host this program as though this kind of behavior on the part of Democrats and uh partisan prosecutors in the media is all it takes to beat us.
Uh no, sir, not here.
That that's not gonna be the reality on this program.
Lawrence Walsh was the prosecutor of Casper Weinberger.
Here is Mike in Woodbridge, Virginia.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
How are you doing today?
Fine, sir.
Thank you.
Uh commenting on your uh talk about the uh Republicans and the belt beltway Republicans that uh are panicking and want to abandon our man delay there.
And my question to them, and listen, I got a comment from you, is what good has that ever done us uh every time any conservative becomes effective, he finds himself under indictment, uh whether he's in radio or whether he's a congressman or a senator or president, Carl Rove, you whoever.
And uh we always get these guys that are saying, Well, let's get them out of the way and get them off the screen.
But it never does us any good.
And I had a question to see if you remembered.
Um David Bonnier uh and his uh bringing all those Ethics charges against um Newt Gingrich.
And it was an abuse of the ethics procedures, if you ask me day in, day out, just constantly doing that to him.
And I remember him saying back when Speaker Wright went down, and I remember it like it was yesterday on television in front of God and country, saying out loud that no matter how long it takes and whatever it takes, I'm gonna bring Newt Gingrich down.
He said that in 1989, and he made it come true.
What good did it do us to abandon uh our man Gingrich or Delay or whomever is effective for us?
It doesn't, but there are other things at work.
And it it all goes back to the competition that I that I mentioned earlier.
I mean, there are a lot of people in the house that would love delay's job.
This is a cutthroat business.
It's like any other competitive business where power is the thing you're trying to achieve.
Um a lot of people want it, and a lot of people will throw you overboard, uh, but at the at the same time thrown over the movement, uh, that's not going to happen on this program.
You're listening to Rush Limbaugh on the excellence in podcasting network.
Now, again, folks, for those of you who um are just joining the program, remember uh a lot of attempt being made the Democratic Party level and at certain place in the media to uh gloss over the partisan nature of Ronnie Earl, an elected Democrat in Travis County Tech.
Remember, all roads lead to Travis County.
Dan Rather, his daughter Robin, leading fundraisers for Ronnie Earl, uh Bill Burkett, Travis County, the forged documents of CBS, Bush being AWOT Travis County, all roads lead to Travis County.
That's Austin, Texas, the political power base.
Ronnie Earl, people have forgotten this, offered some companies deals in which the charges would be dismissed.
Ronnie Earl, the man behind the indictment of Tom Delay, also indicted several corporations in this probe earlier on, much earlier on, before he got around to delay, he indicted several corporations in this.
You've heard about, well, uh Delay took corporate money, and he laundered it.
There is no money laundering here.
This is getting a little personal, but there is no money.
It's not even alleged in the indictment.
Nothing specifically is alleged in the indictment, just this this this catch-all of uh conspiracy.
But yet there's everybody out there saying, Well, he washed the money, Rush.
What he did was he took this corporate money and then took it to the GOP, a national party, and then they parcel it out to these state Republican candidates in Texas.
That's how they wash the money.
Not money laundering.
He hasn't been charged with money laundering, charged with money laundering.
The jail time would be far worse, the charge would be specific.
It's not money laundering, it's criminal conspiracy, and it's not specified.
Delay still doesn't know what he's been charged with.
But the corporations that you keep hearing about here have been indicted by Ronnie Earl in years previous.
Last June, Byron York of National Review Online learned that Ronnie Earl offered some of those same companies that he had indicted deals in which the charges would be dismissed if the corporations came up with big donations to one of his favorite causes.
And I have the story, and we will link to it.
It's it's uh six pages here, and I'm not gonna read the whole thing to you, but we'll link to it, put it up on Rush Limbaugh.com.
Uh but here's the essence.
A grand jury in Travis County, Texas, last September indicted eight corporations in connection with the delay investigation.
All of them were charged with making illegal contributions.
Since then, however, Ronnie Earl's agreed to dismiss charges against four of the companies, Sears, Cracker uh Cracker Barrel Restaurant Chain, Internet Company Questera, and the collection company Diversified Collection Services after those four companies pledged to contribute to a program designed to publicize Ronnie Earl's belief that corporate involvement in politics is harmful to American democracy.
He's a prosecutor and he's got this public interest group that he runs, and he raises money for it.
Dan Rather's daughter, Robin, helps raise money for Ronnie Earl.
He dismisses this is extortion.
Folks, when a prosecutor indicates you and then said, by the way, I'll forget all this if you'll donate to my pet little project here.
It's extortion.
Now, who's gonna file charges against Ronnie Earl?
Who's gonna bring an indictment against him?
I don't know who can.
The bar associated.
I don't know.
How does it happen?
I'm not I'm not well versed enough to know in these matters, but the idea that this man is Lily White, clean and pure as the wind driven snow, untainted by partisanship is uh again one of these falsehoods that uh the the the media reality that it was being created starting yesterday continues today, continues to pump out there.
Now, I want to go back to the caller who asked me, do you think this is it for the Republicans in 06?
And I don't, and I I know I'm a uh one of a few small voices here.
There's there's a lot, there are a lot of people on my side of the guy, oh God, there's we've got to get rid of delay.
Well, we're gonna clear him out otherwise.
Oh, I don't believe that at all.
I think this is gonna backfire on the Democrats.
What the Democrats are doing wrong here, and it's it's okay for me to advise them because it's too late for them to change this.
Let Ronnie Earl hang out alone.
Let this be a digitimate criminal indictment.
Nancy Pelosi, shut up.
Charles Rangle, shut up.
Uh Harry Reid, shut up.
Don't, don't, don't, don't comment on this.
Don't make it look political.
When they come asking you, say, I I can't comment on this.
I mean, it's a legal matter before the court.
I have no idea.
But Pelosi's out there, oh yeah, this is she's got him convicted.
Oh, yeah, this is nothing more than corruption of the Republican Party.
They're overstepping their bounds as they always do.
The smart thing to do would be not say a word and talk loftily about the criminal justice system.
I am going to wait to see how this pans out.
Ronnie Earle is a respected prosecutor, and I'm eager to see how this all uh uh unplays at trial.
But they're all the fact that they can't shut up, the fact that they're piling on, the fact that they got Delay convicted is all the proof I need to know that this whole thing is political.
Not to mention the indictment.
An empty indictment, an empty shell of an indictment.
Five grand juries refused to return an indictment.
He finally got one to come back with one count of criminal conspiracy.
After all of these rotten things we've been hearing for years that Delay did, this is it.
I mean, there's one way you could look at this and say, this is a huge home run win for delay.
Now nobody's gotten the mind to do that today, but one way of looking at this would be to say, this is it?
This is all they've got.
The reason nobody's looking at that is because of course mugshots, fingerprints, purp walking handcuffs, that's damaging video footage, and the Democrats can't wait to get it.
And sadly, it'll all happen.
And that's that's what's going to be the real damaging outcome.
And that's why Republicans, oh, we can't we can't have a mugshot guy be our leader.
We've got to get rid of the buttons the Democrats are overplaying this like they overplayed the hurricane, Cindy Sheehan, everything else.
Uh I'm gonna f I'm gonna find that poll here, and I'm uh in the next segment.
Uh uh that uh it's a gallop poll on the uh American public uh here it is.
I just I just happen to turn to it right here.
Nearly three times as many of those polled in a new gallup survey said they believe the media are too liberal than too conservative.
Press release on Tuesday from Gallup, uh, which is earning publicity for how it found that trust and confidence in the news media is up from last year reported.
When asked about the news media's political slant, Americans are much more likely to say they are too liberal, 46%, than they are to say they are about right, 37% or are too conservative, 16%.
Those views are consistent with what Gallup has measured since 2001.
The percentage of Americans saying a news media are too liberal is ranged between 45 and 48 percent.
It's always been the plurality response.
There's been a slight increase in the public sentiment that the media are too conservative.
It was 11% in 2001, it is 16% today.
So uh 16, again, it's 40 what is it, 46 percent too liberal, 37% just right.
Uh so on balance here, uh it's it's it's possible that this is going to result in that number going even higher.
Once this is all played out, once it's all uh once it's all over and done with.
And, you know, the one of the things too that that uh it's a fact of life in America, and it's just it's nobody's fault.
It's just what is.
Law enforcement is viewed as almost infallible.
Now that is changing.
Tom Snedden wouldn't think it he can get away with anymore after the Michael Jackson trial.
Uh and some other prosecutors have had their lunch handed to him, like Marsha Clark, uh and so forth.
But for the most part, let me just do a little personal test.
When you hear that citizen A has been accused of crime B, what's your natural instinctive reaction?
Guilty.
Why charge if they're not guilty?
Why go to the trouble if they're not guilty?
I don't care whether somebody famous or not.
When you hear a prosecutor say that citizen A engaged in this activity and this activity and this activity and its felonies and da-da-da-da-da.
Pretty much it's over in the arena of public opinion.
Prosecutors are believed.
They always are.
Just that's a it's a fact of life.
It's always been the case.
And it's gonna be a long time.
Now, Ronnie Earl's doing his best, along with Tom Sneddon to uh to make people doubt prosecutors now.
Uh there are there are more and more people are beginning to see.
Wait a minute, something screwy about some of these prosecutions, because a lot of people who do worse don't even get prosecuted.
Some people who haven't done anything do.
Why wouldn't it be?
These qu people are starting to ask these questions now, but for the longest time prosecutors said this, law enforcement said that guilty.
And it's uh uh even if you even after you're acquitted, look at Michael Jackson.
He's acquitted.
Everybody still thinks he did it.
OJ probably did, but everybody thinks he did it.
You can anybody who's charged and gets away with it.
That's always got it.
Oh, they got away with it.
Not that they were found innocent.
Nobody's really truly exonerated, even when they are.
In the eyes of public opinion, because this natural bias toward the assumption of guilt.
Just on the basis of the charge.
And even when there aren't charges, by the way.
All you have to do is have a prosecutor leak something.
How many people how many of you thought Delay's guilty for the last three years?
Without one charge.
And forget whether you're Democrats or Republicans.
How many of you thought he's guilty just on the basis?
Look at all this stuff they're saying.
Some of it has to be true.
People don't take into account this is just modern-day political warfare.
And you can say the same thing about Clinton.
How many people thought it was true just because it was alleged?
And how many people didn't?
You know, they're the now what, Mr. Snetton?
Well, I know there I know there's a big difference there with Clinton when you're talking about the president of the United States.
People don't want to think their president does these things.
That's why one of the reasons Clinton skated.
Look at Bush, nobody really wants the majority of people don't want to believe that Bush was a wall of the national.
They elected him president.
They don't want to believe these things.
They they don't want to believe that Bush doesn't like black people.
They don't want to believe that Bush moved hurricanes to New Orleans to kill poor people.
People don't want to believe this.
This is why it's cockamaney crazy to allege it.
But when you when you get away from high-profile, powerful national figures that people elect, and you just start talking about average citizens, it doesn't even take an indictment.
It just takes a media leak.
And the people that hear it, ooh, wouldn't be leaking at if it weren't true.
That's just the n media wouldn't be reporting it if it's not true.
Well, all these things now are starting to come under more scrutiny.
And that's why I think I think uh uh, and besides, I have confidence in myself, and I I I think I think we can do a lot of uh help here uh in helping shape what's happening to Tom Delay.
Uh so people have a better way of putting it in perspective.
Talk about the indictment, what's not in it, Ronnie Earl's past media's not doing that.
Well, he indicted 12 Democrats.
Why out of 15 people?
How can you say he's partisan?
There weren't any Republicans back then, and those 12 Democrats were conservative.
He said, Iddyal.
You're not gonna hear that in the mainstream press.
They're just gonna go on party affiliation.
But so I'm I'm just folks, if you bail out on delay or anything like this, you you you have the you run the risk of bailing out on a movement because that's what's being attacked.
The conservative agenda is what's under attack here, what's under assault trying to derail it.
They don't you think they care about Tom Delay as a person?
They don't they'd be happy to destroy him.
But if it if all that was at stake here was getting rid of delay, they wouldn't bother with it.
But if they can derail the conservative agenda, especially when they don't have one that responds to it, that's what this is about.
That's why you just can't be so eager to throw people overboard.
Back after this.
I'm sorry, I forgot to tell Brian to turn it on at one o'clock.
So I owe you an hour.
I'll give you an hour sometime between now and the end of the year.
Did Ocam is on at Rush Limbaugh.com.
And no, I have not forgotten this Feynman piece.
I'll I'll do it.
I'll do it in a monologue segment next hour.
I'm going to need some time to go through this because it requires some commentary as I as I do it.
In the meantime, Dale in Brookfield, Connecticut.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi, Rush.
Ditto.
Thank you.
I just wanted to call and give you a heads up.
I've received a computer-driven call on the phone just prior to calling you.
From Democrats group of some type.
Demanding or requesting that we call Nancy Johnson and demand that she return the funds that Tom Delay gave her, and that she demand Tom Delay's resignation.
So what it would appears is this whole thing has been programmed and all set up, waiting just to push the button.
It wouldn't, it wouldn't surprise me a bit.
I don't I don't have any evidence that there was collaboration between Washington Democrats and Ronnie Earl, but if I were to learn it, I wouldn't be surprised by it.
So they've got their phone banks up and running, got their computerized phone banks.
You're wandering around the house, you're minding your own business, phone rings ringing and picking up some computer voice saying, demand Tom Delay.
Uh Delay and Nancy Johnson's obviously your congressperson, but Nan this is what's curious about this to me.
Nancy Johnson did not get elected in Texas.
This indictment is all about what apparently happened down in Texas.
So why are the Democrats calling you and demanding that your representative give back money that she supposedly got from Tom Delay?
Now Delay raises money for all House members, or as many as he can, and the Republicans like the Democrats have their uh their congressional campaign committee, which is designed to get all Republicans elected as they can, as many as they can, re-elected and elected.
But what's this got to do with Texas?
Nancy Johnson's a Connecticut Congressperson.
Uh and and uh and and why why should she give any money back?
Now look, uh folks, as far as I know, the Republican caucus is holding behind when I when I said there's some Republicans out there feeling the heat, I'm not talking about the Republican caucus in the House.
I think they're holding fast.
Uh everything I've heard, the uh Republican congressional members are they're cool.
I'm I'm talking about the the uh uh other Republicans, voters, some members of the media, this sort of thing, that there there's there's gonna be some well, there already is.
Uh, don't like this.
Let's throw delay overboard.
It's the only thing we can do to save ourselves, and of course, this is the exact opposite.
Uh he didn't do anything.
He's not even been found guilty.
Why throw somebody we're gonna throw somebody overboard because they're accused?
Folks, that is scary.
I mean, that that really is scary.
You want to give them a tool, they can just start accusing people left and right and go find another prosecutor to come out with an indictment or a charge, and they start getting rid of us like flies.
If that's how our linguine spined leaders are gonna act.
And uh, and I hope it's uh hope it's not.
So, well, you're probably gonna get one of these phone bank calls yourself in uh in certain districts.
But if they've already got their phone bank operation up and running, I know you can do this fairly quickly, but it does seem like there might be a little coordination going on here, doesn't it?
Well, apparently a lot of these Democrat uh computer uh phone call operations are already up and running, and I just got this note.
Hey, Rush, I got the same call as your last caller about my Congressman Clay Shaw.
My call came just after 11 o'clock this morning.
So apparently uh it's happening all over the country.
People are getting phone calls saying, tell your congressman to give back the money he got from Tom Delay.
This is not this is folks, they have found their issue.
That's what this means.
They have found their issue for 06.
And it didn't just happen to drop into their laps.
This there has this is happening now too slickly, too quickly.
There's got there's some coordination here, and this is their issue for 06.
This is it.
Everything else has failed.
They're admitting everything else has failed.
Katrina failed it in work.
Well, they think it has, they're gonna add on to it now.
But Bill Burkett didn't work, Cindy Sheehan, they probably think all these things have worked cumulatively, but this is the issue.
So Bush sucks, but that didn't work, so now we're gonna try delay sucks.
And if that doesn't work, we're gonna say, well, Republicans just suck in general.
They're just corrupt as they can be.
But if you get one of these calls from a Democrat computer saying, ask your congressman to give back the money he or she got from delay, remember that whatever this indictment's about is about what happened in Texas with state legislators.
I'm telling you, they're overplaying it.
Sit tight on this, folks.
We'll be back.
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