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Sept. 23, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 23, 2005, Friday, Hour #3
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As I suspected, uh Hurricane uh Rita has now become a category three.
It's it's hard to maintain these category five hurricanes.
And uh and even a four.
Uh but it's it's a category three, which means max wins.
This is sustained winds are 125 miles an outs.
That's that's the you're you're you're the lower edge of catastrophic there in a Cat 3, but it certainly is not um Cat Five Greetings.
We got still lots to go.
Plus your phone calls it's Friday.
Let's hit it now from sunny South Florida.
It's the winner of his fourth National Association of Broadcasters Marconi Award.
Rush Limbaugh with open line Friday.
If I didn't know better, I thought Johnny Donovan won the award.
Guy sounds jazzed.
Greetings and welcome back, folks.
It is Open Line Friday.
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If you just joined us, much of the last hour was spent reviewing audio sound bites from the uh Congressional Black Caucus Convention that is uh going on in Washington, coinciding with this big anti-American war protest uh that the uh Democratic base, the anti-American war movement is putting on.
Interestingly, only two elected Democrats with the guts to show at the anti-American war protests.
They are John Conyers and Cynthia McKinney.
No elected Democrat of stature is gonna even be in town.
They all cite previous engagements, but they were um in town to to attend the Congressional Black Caucus event.
We just heard Mrs. Clinton go on and on and on railing against the plan to have uh photo ID cards in order to be eligible to vote.
She called this a new poll tax, railed against it, said we're not gonna let it happen.
This is more and more the right wanting to rig elections.
Uh when in fact the only reasonable opposition to this can possibly be uh if you have already been engaging in voter fraud and you know you're gonna get caught with this new plan.
Uh but Mrs. Clinton was railing against these IDs.
It says the new poll tax is totally unnecessary.
It's this it's horrible.
Well, I had a vague memory that in her health care plan in 93 and 94 had one of these ID requirements, and I'd forgotten how bad it was.
Mrs. Clinton's task force, her health care task force had drawn up a plan, they did draw up a plan to issue all U.S. citizens a national health care ID card.
You if if her health care can't plan had passed and you didn't get one of these cards, you were not gonna have access to health care.
It was well, you had no choice.
It was mandatory.
And according the the the Clinton administration, the Hillary Task Force, uh tried to keep private a lot of the documents that were uh assembled and written in the assembly stages of her plan.
So some people filed a uh Freedom of Information Act request, and it was granted, and these documents were released, and according to the documents that were released from the government using the Freedom of Information Act, Hillary's health care plan included inserting a special government designed chip into the cards.
The idea was that the Department of Justice could then monitor your health care providers for fraud and abuse.
The result would be to monitor you wherever you presented your card.
They would know.
And so here's Mrs. Clinton now talking to the Congressional Black Caucus.
This they say that this is the smartest woman in the world.
I have I've I don't see it, and I've never been on board that whole belief.
When I listen to her speak, I don't think I'm listening to somebody quick on their feet.
I I just don't.
I've never I think she succeeded in intimidating a whole lot of people, and she's got a lot of sycophants in the media that love to talk about how she's the smartest woman in the world.
Even Snerdley, he's looking dubiously at me now.
Uh I have seen her speak some.
I'm telling you, I'm I'm not look at this is a high standard smartest woman in the world.
Um I don't hear it.
I'm not telling you I watching a dunce, Mr. Sturdley.
I'm saying I don't I just don't buy the smartest woman in the world.
And this is a great example.
She also, if from the White House, she ran the Clinton procedures on the Paula Jones case, that lawsuit, and all these.
She bots these things.
I can't, in a political sense, I can't tell you how badly she botched these.
There's an aura of invincibility around her because the media's trumped her all up, as have the nags and the feminists and so forth.
But you know, there are plenty of women that could run rings around her intellectual.
Condoleezza Rice is one.
Condoleza Rice could make mints meat of Hillary Clinton intellectually.
Hillary Clinton's a knee-jerk liberal.
Knee-jerk liberal.
Mrs. Clinton, could you explain why that'll work?
She can't, I guarantee you.
She started ripping into Republican policies.
And let's let me just review something else here, folks.
Charles Wrangell calls calls Bush the bull Connor of their generation.
Bull Connor was a Democrat.
The history of Charles Wrangell's party is Democrats and slavery, segregation.
The Democrats can't that d Bill Clinton's mentor, J. William Fulbright, Senator from Arkansas, huge segregationist.
I mean, it's stunning the way the Republicans have gotten tagged with all this stuff.
Uh FDR in turned those Japanese citizens in World War II.
It was Democrats running states that came up with poll taxes.
It was Democrats that came up with literacy tests.
The legacy of the Clinton Wrangle Party is the bull Connors of the world and the George Wallace's and the Lester Maddox's.
And yet we allow these liberals to paste us with this crap.
They're the ones that did it.
You go back to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Greater percentage of Republican senators voted for it than did Democrat senators.
And I'm not through with Mrs. Clinton yet.
We got two more things to do with her.
She announced she's going to vote against John Roberts for Chief Justice.
And one of the primary reasons was she said his answers were too vague.
Does anybody remember?
Hillary, I don't recall in front of the grand jury.
I don't remember.
I really don't recall.
And yet John Roberts was too vague.
Please, folks, join me and don't be afraid of this woman.
She puts her pants on one leg at a time like every other guy.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
Still have uh some more stuff.
Uh one more Hillary Clinton item, pretty big one too, involving Mother Sheehan.
Grab that new Mother Sheehan song, too.
Paul Shanklin's out with another uh little parody tune for Cindy Sheehan that's coming up.
Uh let's go to uh Kinesha in Columbus, Georgia.
Hi, Kenisha, nice to have you on program.
Hi, Rush, Megadeth in Georgia.
How you doing?
Fine.
Never better.
Thank you.
Well, um, I am an African American female, um, and I'm prior military.
My husband runs his own company, and I'm an educator person, as well as a stay-at-home mom.
And I am so insulted um by the language of these people that say they represent my race, the congr congressional black caucus.
I became a Republican this last election, and I will tell you, Rush, that from my observation, all my friends that all this condescending talk is just pushing more and more young people, because I just turned 30, my generation away from the Democratic Party.
Because it's it's condescending to think that we're too stupid to get an ID.
I mean, we have to have it for everything else.
And it's just a very insulting, and I'll tell you, it's really turning off a lot of people of my age group and turning us to say we need to be solution-oriented and stop complaining and make some things happen.
And that's what pushed my husband and I and our family over to the other side.
Congratulations.
I know it takes courage for you to do this and even admit it.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
I mean, we we have bush stickers on our car.
We've we've took taken a stand, but you know, it takes people to take a stand and point out the truth without all the emotion and the screaming.
And I'll tell you that um I wouldn't vote for Hillary, even if I was a Democrat.
She doesn't represent me as a woman.
I don't admire her.
Well, you know, this is the thing, you know, Quinesha, the thing I've always wondered about about I don't care what the race of these people is.
Anybody that's in poverty, i it's been a 60-year quest here that's obviously failed.
And and the people who have who continue to make them the whines and moans about it created the programs to fix it and have been uh in possession of the White House for a whole bunch of years during all of this, and yet there's never any progress.
If you listen to them, we're losing ground.
We've spent six trillion dollars on it.
And it it I I just as a human being, I get worn out listening to whining and moaning and complaining.
It doesn't take very long.
These people have been doing it for years, and I'm just wondering at at why it has not worn itself out with the um the uh in intended uh uh recipients of this stuff, um recipients of the words.
Like I know who Charles Wrangle and and Harry Belafonti are talking to.
Uh they're they're talking not just of black port, but they're talking including them, but they're talking to everybody that's poor, and they want they want everybody in that group to believe that they are poor only because there are Republicans who are stealing money from them to give it to the rich.
The poor have been made to believe that if it weren't for all the theft from them, there wouldn't be the rich people.
It's a disconnect.
It's a total disconnect.
Well, Rush, it doesn't make sense to me.
How can you steal from poor people if they so-called don't have anything?
My thing is is that individu individually they don't, but see, their view of of of America's capitalist system is uh is that it's structurally unjust, and that if the rich didn't have all they have, because they're just lucky, the the winners of life's lottery.
The rich have taken most of the money out of the economy and it hasn't left enough to be distributed so that each poor person has more than what they do.
They don't mean they've stolen it from each individual poor people, but it's it's a they have a finite view uh of of the American economy.
It's a pie that never gets any bigger, it's only got certain number of pieces, and the disadvantaged don't have their fair share of pieces.
And the Democrats look at themselves as being in charge of slicing up the pie.
To them, a finite zero-sum game.
They think if somebody loses a job, uh if somebody gets a job, somebody loses a job.
They don't understand increased uh economic output, they don't understand growth cycles, they don't understand the dynamics of tax cuts and other policies.
It's just stunning to me.
And and uh I know it there have been generation after generation of inculcating this stuff into people's minds, but at some point that like in your case, the lights have to go off.
Well, you know, Rush, if if that was the truth that the pie never was split up and and that the rich are taking from the poor, then how do you explain all the people that struggle to come to our country for opportunity that own small businesses that are oftentimes are in the black communities and they make it and then we get upset at them.
I really believe it's the heart of the individual that makes the decision to be somebody.
It's not the government's responsibility.
And the bottom line is my grandmother who has recently um voted for Bush and and listens to your show every single day, is of the generation when rights were not there.
And that she always talks about how when she was a child and when she was going to college, she was at the for one of the first black nurses in the state of Connecticut and grew up in the segregation times.
And she said that back then we as people carried ourselves with class and dignity, and the same people that are complaining now got their success, like Harry Belafonti and people like that through this wonderful capitalistic society that we have.
That that's what gives them no pulpit to speak even now, the freedoms we have in this country.
So to me and to a lot of people um in my generation, black and white, it's just insulting.
And they're gonna lose more and more elections um the more they attack the foundations of our families and telling us that we're too stupid as individuals as God given this God-giving right we have in this country to make our own decisions, and it's turning a lot of people off, so they can just keep on doing it and we'll keep winning.
Well well stated, Quinesha, and thanks much for the call.
Thank you, Russ.
You are you are uh you are brilliant young woman and uh very important to the future of this country.
Thank you.
So have a lot of kids and inculcate them with your beliefs.
We are thank you for all you're doing, Russia.
Hubba Hubba.
All right.
George Gross Point, Michigan, welcome to the program.
Rush, may Megadinos, Rush.
How are you?
Uh couldn't be better, sir.
Thank you.
Well, with all the problems going on, our prayers are always for our brethren and our brothers down in Louisiana and Texas, but we've had an issue up here in Detroit that tales in comparison, but still an issue.
We can't figure out the Detroit Lions.
What advice would you give to the owners of Detroit or Detroit as to how to win some ball games and maybe bring home a Super Bowl.
Oh you know, if if I knew that, uh I'd still be on ESPN.
Uh oh, speaking of that, folks you I'm I'm sorry you have reminded me of something.
I've got to find this.
Uh folks stick with me on this.
There's a headline, there's a story in USA Today, yesterday.
Whoa, come on, what did I where is this?
Oh.
What did I do with it?
Let me answer your question.
I'll find it during the break.
But it's just it's class.
I the bottom line is I thought uh that when uh when they hired Matt Millen, some of the people at Matt Millen put in charge of the uh here's that story.
When the when some of the people that uh Millen put in charge of the Lions were put in charge.
I I thought this Bill Tobin, these are some good people, scouting people.
Um and uh I you know it it's it's a shame I have uh I I've met Mr. Ford uh two years ago to preseason game when the the first season Ford Field opened, and uh I look at him as the as the modern incarnation of Art Rooney.
You know, Art Rooney had the Steelers for all those years and they were just the laughing stock of the league.
And all of a sudden they hired Chuck Knoll who started drafting well four Super Bowls in the 70s, and the Steelers have uh have maintained that.
I've always hoped that the same thing would happen for the Lions and Mr. Ford.
Uh and I I'm I'm at a loss.
Uh I'm you know, you can't say it's coaching.
Marucci has had success uh everywhere he's been uh as an assistant, Green Bay and uh University of California, and then with the Forderners.
Uh I I uh just be a wild guess, but I I think there's there's probably just a an attitude there.
You you when you've when you've been up against it for so long, and uh you haven't I mean the they flirted with the playoffs back in the eighties with Wayne Fonse and so forth.
Uh but terms of they've never been to a Super Bowl, uh uh I think one championship.
I don't think they got to the championship game.
I think it was a second round playoff game with the 49ers that they got close to winning, but uh until you establish the attitude of winning, uh it you it's everything else is is gonna be compounded, all these problems.
So I but I really I have no clue uh what to tell them to do.
I just I I hope they can turn it around.
I don't think I don't know that the problem is just Joey Harrington, that's the complaint.
The problem is every quarterback they've had uh think things uh things happen.
So uh one thing they said just get rid of these uniforms, these black uniforms.
The Detroit Lions stick with that blue and silver and don't start junking up the uniform for Cryna.
And don't go all black like I saw them do once in a preseason game.
I know that they do that to try to toughen up the team.
Yeah, we're wearing all black today, we're the crypts of the bloods.
Don't even go there.
Stick with the traditions of the team.
Here's this headline in USA Today.
And this is about college football.
Minority quarterbacks make gains as starters.
Oh, what have I always said about the media?
What have I said that they have a social interest in the black quarterback doing well?
College football's scarcity of African American coaches remains a sore spot, but the sport appears to be making strides on the field where more than a third of the teams of the nation's major conferences uh currently start black quarterbacks.
Who is this?
Steve Weiberg.
Thank you, Steve, for proving me right once again.
You're listening to Rush Limbaugh on the excellence in podcasting network.
I have a I have a five dollar bet with a friend that the eye of the hurricane hits uh Louisiana.
Not only Louisiana, any portion of the eye hits Louisiana, I win five bucks.
He thinks and told me uh made the bet yesterday afternoon a couple days ago, he says it's gonna hit Houston.
Eh, gonna hit Houston.
The eye is not gonna I can tell you this in watching this at us, it's not gonna hit Houston.
This thing's gonna get closer and closer to that state line, and I bet by the time it gets there, more of the eye is in Louisiana and Texas.
I'll bet you five bucks on that, he said, so I took it.
Because um, I mean, even I folks can afford five bucks.
Katie in Allentown, Pennsylvania.
Welcome.
Great to have you on the program.
Thank you so very much, Rush.
I really appreciate it.
You bet.
Really, really love you.
Uh I have a question, actually, two questions about the New Orleans aid package.
Yeah.
I have not Heard the number of people that were already living in public housing.
Um when everybody was evacuating New Orleans, you got the impression that everybody was so poor that they could not, you know, afford anything.
But yet we don't hear the numbers exactly how many people were living in public housing.
And when we're looking at reimbursement, we hear talk about mortgages.
And I'm wondering why the public officials are not going to the real estate uh assessment records that are public records within New Orleans to get some sort of a base value.
And I'm wondering because that's not you, you know, you th these are excellent questions, but you're missing the whole point of what the aid package is about.
And I'm glad, you know, I'm glad you called because you're she's uh referring to something, folks, that uh I mentioned very early in the program, and I want to go back so you know what she's talking about.
You'll be able to listen to her uh her her comments or get her comments in uh in context.
Louisiana's lawmakers submitted a 250 billion dollar wish list to Congress yesterday, led by Mary Landrew, asking the federal government to cover everything from rebuilding communities to killing mosquitoes and paying homeowners mortgages in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
Uh Mary Landrew, uh along and Republicans in on this too, David Vitter, uh, the Republican Senator presented a 250 billion dollar package, 180 billion in spending, the rest in tax breaks and other uh revenue reductions just for Louisiana.
Landrew said this is an unprecedented national disaster and national tragedy, and it's going to take an unprecedented response.
And I uh if you'll pardon me here, Katie, I just I want to I want to comment about this as I did in the first hour to people who didn't hear it, because this I had an immediate angry gut reaction when I heard about this proposal.
Because we've had so many, so many billions of federal dollars mismanaged by these politicians in Louisiana.
Money that was intended to fix the levies and shore them up was never spent on these kind of things.
The people down there have been nothing but incompetent.
Then we see that they want us not to try to help these people get off the mat.
They want to stick us with a bill for everything possible.
We don't know what the state's gonna do.
We don't we don't hear about the state doing anything, we don't hear about the state raising taxes.
We don't know how much has been spent already.
Uh it when it comes to private charity, not just the feds, the billions in contributions of food, clothing, medicine, uh these the military has spent uh a a fortune.
We might as well nationalize the state, because that's what we're being asked to do here.
And this thing really grated on me.
It's one thing, you know, w when when when you offer charity and we're offering all kinds of help and manpower and goods and services and money, then they stick their hands out and demand it.
It just grates on me when you're being charitable.
I've had this happen to me personally, and it it this is why it affects me.
It seems like generosity makes a mark out of you sometimes.
You be generous to the wrong person, and you you they'll come back at you and then start expecting it and asking and demanding more.
And the same thing here.
Here we're the country is bending over backwards, and they they present this demand of 250 billion dollars, and look when they did it.
They did it right before another hurricane is gonna wipe out cities in a state that opened its arms to New Orleans and Louisiana to take those evacuees.
The very state and city that helped them is about to get slammed now, and they introduced this bill while people are literally running for their survival.
This is Mary Landry doing this, and they did this to get in the queue.
They did this to be first in line when it comes to these federal hands.
It the whole thing just so what what Katie here is saying is where where is the reason that why are we just throwing money?
If we're talking about mortgages for people, let's go look what the mortgages were worth.
If we're talking about public housing, let's talk about are we going to rebuild public housing or are we going to try to give some of these people a chance at ownership?
Let's do some cost accounting is basically what you're saying, correct?
Correct, Rush.
May I bring up one other thing too about the liberal media?
Yeah.
The liberal media, where's their responsibility from years ago when they knew that monies were needed for the levies, if they really cared about the poor, following it for years and years and years to to go after these politicians that weren't fixing the levies.
Where's their responsibility?
They're good at going after Republicans, they're good at going after Bush.
Where's their public responsibility in years prior to not following these types of that's a good question because they say they're the public watchdogs that they're watching those in power and keeping them honest and so forth, but uh I think a lot of this was done under the radar, and there was the clearly was no interest in it.
I mean, it it's yeah it it would it would have been odd.
And by the way, there were, I have to say there were a bunch of print journalists writing in various publications, National Geographic, who warned of just this exact thing.
Now they didn't know of the malfeasance.
Uh oh, they talked about how these these levees haven't been built properly.
They've only built up to category three.
Now we're getting, by the way, we're we're getting uh uh scientists and engineers are arguing here over what really caused these levies to break.
Was it the hurricane?
Did the hurricane actually do this?
Or was it the flood?
Was it the ray?
Was it the flooding?
Was it the winds of the hurricane actually do this or not?
Um and so a lot of people are gonna what what really was going on down there?
And that's another reason why all these Louisiana people trying to get in the queue.
Hey, let's not worry about that.
We gotta rebuild.
We gotta rebuild.
Here we want this 250 billion dollars.
I just sorry, folks, it just it just it uh it rubbed me the wrong way.
Doug, uh thanks, Katie.
Doug and Toledo, you're next on open line Friday.
Hi.
Hi, I'm Mr. Limbaugh.
Yeah, um I wanted to speak to you briefly about uh something you were saying earlier about uh there being uh uh all a person has to do is apply themselves and so on.
You oftentimes say that.
I won't respectfully disagree with you.
I I I there are exceptions to every rule, and some people do actually make it out of certain situations, but unless you are exposed to or have access to the various tools and things that you need in order to accomplish things, then sometimes the best that you can do is average.
I mean and okay, hold it.
Let's discuss some of this.
Who is de who's depriving the poor of access to the tools that they need?
Well, I I agree with you in that.
I I I'm not arguing that point.
It's just that I hear you, sir, and a lot of other people.
I'm an African American who have come from uh I would say average to below average means in situ uh situation.
And I I would say that I am performing or above average or at least average myself.
I'm okay with that.
But I oftentimes hear people say, Well, if you want to be rich, or if you want to have these, I don't I disagree with that.
If you you know, if my grandparents were which were you know, sharecroppers, etc.
etc., all they know how to do is work afield.
Okay, those various resources, those various that knowledge does not make me rich in today's society.
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold on just a second.
No, okay.
We don't have sharecroppers anymore.
My great grandparents are from Mississippi.
Both of them are deceased now.
Don't wait a minute, wait a minute.
Don't no don't have a don't have a knee-jerk react.
We don't have we don't have sharecroppers anymore.
How can that be if there's no opportunity?
Oh no, I Mr. Limbo, I am simply saying that this is years and years of a situation compiling and becoming worse and worse.
And if no one It's not see, th this is this Doug, I I really you're talking yourself into a situation here.
The situation's not getting worse and worse.
This country is more prosperous than anyone's wildest dreams, and it's getting more so each and every year.
And more and more Americans who've sat around for sixty years and believed a bunch of promises from a bunch of politicians that told them we're gonna take care of this inequity, we're gonna make sure, and by they never do.
All they do is go out and make a joke out of supposedly punishing the rich with high taxes and regulations, but none of that seems to help the poor.
Now I can I can tell you that there are countless millions of poor people who have who have who have escaped it.
And many of them black, many of them many of them uh what will you say foreign?
But there's but people moving out in and out of different levels of uh uh prosperity, income quintiles, the five top in income levels are divided, uh income levels divide into five groups, they're called quintiles, and people move in and out of those things all the time.
Uh this is the country where that is possible.
This is a country with a rich history of that very thing happening.
And it is not too easy to say, if you want it, you can get it.
In this country, it's possible.
We all have obstacles.
Every one of us, I've had them.
I don't complain about them because nobody would be sympathetic, and I don't want any sympathy.
But we've all had obstacles.
I've worked for rotten croop creeps.
I've worked for people, thought I didn't amount to anything.
Three of the people I worked with in radio told me I never had what it took would never give me a shot at anything.
I got fired seven times.
I've been broke a couple of times.
I've not been in poverty.
I've not been poor, but I also know that the recipes that we have employed to get people out of poverty have not worked because the same people keep complaining about it.
Those who authored the policies keep complaining about it.
Uh one of the things that we are learning if we as we study people in the depths of poverty.
There are four things that you can do that will really help you avoid those straights.
One is graduate from high school.
Number two, do not have a child before you get married.
Or two, or three.
Number three is don't get married until long after you're out of high school and have a job and so forth.
And I forget what the fourth is.
But if you take a look at the demographics of people who are stuck in poverty, and poverty is a relative thing.
The poverty in America generally consists of a couple television sets in your house.
A car, poverty in Africa, that's poverty.
Poverty and the rest, that's bet's poverty.
Poverty in America is relative compared to prosperity that we have.
And I'm not saying that poverty in America is a panacea.
Please don't take me out of context.
But there are clearly things that if you can if you study the demographics of poverty, you can see that there are some things in common.
And uh if they could be taught to be avoided, if people had some reason, if they were inspired rather than told the deck is stacked against them, if they were motivated, and generally it's parents and teachers that do this.
Uh but if you're a parent when you're 13 or 14, and you yourself have never been out of the situation you're in, it's gonna be a while before you've lived long enough to have some maturity to be able to raise your kid a different way than you were raised.
There's all kinds of factors here.
But the one thing that's not the primary root of problem is our structure, our capitalist structure.
It does not choose winners and losers.
It does not predetermine winners and losers and keep them there forever.
There are not winners of life's lottery.
There are winners of Powerball, but there are not winners of life's lottery.
The idea well, take it back.
Take it back.
There are the trust funders who all they had to do, the lucky sperm club, all they had to do was be born.
And I can give you names from both political parties, starting with the Kennedys.
Uh there are exceptions to everything as you say.
But for most everybody who has made it, defined however they choose.
There is a foundation and something that's irreplaceable, and it's called hard work.
Quick time out.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
Most everybody, working for the weekend, looking for the weekend, some Some people not crazy about this weekend arriving.
I I got one more Hillary Clinton story.
And uh, you know, remember when I said that Cindy Sheehan would get taken to the woodshed for going after Hillary?
Well, she has been taken to the woodshed.
Hillary herself is dissing Mother Sheehan.
2008 presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton scrambled yesterday to put some distance between herself and Cindy Sheehan after word of her private meeting with the anti-American peace mom was reported in the village voice.
While Mother Sheehan herself gushed afterwards at her Hillary sit-down went fabulously, the former first lady sounded a little bit less enthusiastic in comments guaranteed to infuriate Moveon.org and the Democrat base, Hillary began by noting that she had met earlier in the day with about 20 moms from American Gold Star mothers who vehemently disagreed with Mother Sheehan.
My bottom line is I don't want their sons to die in vain, she told the voice.
While she hand is called the U.S. liberation of Iraq BS, Clinton said, I happen to think that fighting for freedom's a noble cause.
There are a lot of things wrong with how Bush did it.
Believe we should have gone through with the inspection process and acted through the U.N., but I believe that standing up against someone as dangerous as Saddam was a good goal.
Hillary also rebuffed Mother Sheehan's demand that she lead the charge to get the U.S. out of Iraq ASAP.
Said Mrs. Clinton, I think it's a much more complicated situation.
I don't think it's the right time to withdraw.
Cindy Sheehan has just had her behind whacked by Mrs. Clinton, who knows a little bit about behinds.
And whack item.
I told Cindy Sheehan this is gonna happen.
You don't call Hillary out like this and live to tell about.
David and Banger Main, 30 seconds.
I got 30 seconds, see if we can make it count.
Oh, well, 30 seconds.
Here we go.
Uh I I agree with you 100% that I uh Hillary can lose a national election for the White House.
Is there anything that you can conceive of uh that would cause her to lose her Senate seat uh in her upcoming race?
Yes, I can.
I'm not predicting it, but I can see her losing the Senate race to Janine Piero.
Up and up.
I can also see her losing the Senate race by lying to New York.
If she doesn't, if she if she if she tells them I'm only gonna run for this race to launch me to the White House, she's in trouble.
If she says I promise to fill out my term if elected, she's in trouble.
Her best bet is to not seek re-election to the Senate and drop out on her own and spend all the money on that re-election campaign on her White House bid because the odds are too great that she'll suffer some damage in that campaign.
She's smart, she won't even run for re-election in New York.
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