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Sept. 12, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 12, 2005, Monday, Hour #3
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Welcome back, my good friends and of course honored enemies.
It's Rush Limbaugh the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, and we are happy to have you along for the ride today.
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We just heard from the office of uh Florida Senator Mel Martinez.
The American Spectator is reporting today in their prowler column.
The following story with federal costs related to Hurricane Katrina now estimated to be topping out at more than 100 billion.
Republicans in both the House and Senate appear to be moving against the White House as fast as the rats in New Orleans in the Lower Garden District.
Last Friday, everybody from Senators Mel Martinez and Tom Coburn to GOP members in the House Ways and Means Committee were criticizing the Bush administration for not offsetting Katrina's spending with broader spending cuts across the government.
Martinez went so far as to say that perhaps the White House should pull plans to press for making permanent tax cuts that were in the offing for this legislative session.
The uh refusal by Capitol Hill Republicans to fall in line behind a White House trying to gain some traction politically on just about any topic is indicative of a troubled majority looking at going home in the coming months to tip off re-election campaigns that now look vastly different from what they appeared to be even two months ago.
Okay, two things about this.
First, we heard from Senator Martinez's office, uh, and they are denying this story.
They say that uh Senator Martinez is a strong proponent of making tax cuts permanent and is in fact co-sponsor of legislation to permanently repeal a death tax, which has been placed on hold.
Not the idea, but the vote has been placed on hold on this.
Uh and hopefully it'll come back.
Uh so we um we regret reporting to you what the American spectator said.
Mel Martinez says they've got this wrong.
That's that.
But the other part of this that just frosts me.
The refusal by Capitol Hill Republicans to fall in line behind a White House trying to gain some traction politically on just about any topic is indicative of a troubled majority looking at going home in the coming months to tip off re-election campaigns that now look vastly different from what they appeared to be even two months ago.
They aren't different at all.
This is precisely what happens when you have a bunch of weak kneed Republicans who realize or can't realize that they are winners.
They have won the last series of elections, but damned if they won't act like it.
And so they fall prey to this media scandal, and it is a media scandal, folks.
The the the reporting, the predictions of the level of disaster in this hurricane are near scandalous.
10,000 deaths, 25,000 body bags.
They've already got sewage working in some parts of the city.
They've got water treatment working, they've got uh electricity in some parts of the city.
Uh some people are going back to their homes.
Yeah, there's damage.
But there the death toll in Louisiana total has not hit 200 yet, and it's not going to get anywhere near the 10,000 that they were they were projecting.
And that's the news that drove the poll numbers down that these weak need Republicans are all concerned about.
If you guys just realize what it is that wins for you, it's conservatism that wins for you.
Now the White House is not innocent here.
The White House has not done much to enforce any kind of party discipline whatsoever.
Uh uh, particularly conservative discipline.
Uh White House acts as though they're tolerant of the conservative members, but they're actually friendlier with their enemies than they are with members of their base on uh on a lot of things.
And it's it it of course does not inspire confidence, and it is causing this gunfight at the OK Corral circumstance where these elected Republicans in Congress feel like they're on their own, and I can't tie myself to the White House here.
Their poll numbers down the 30s and the 40s.
I can't I can't do that.
It's a false poll.
It's based on false information.
Now, now the you have to understand the Republicans need to understand that there are two realities.
There's in this country, there's the media reality, and then there's the real reality.
And the media reality is not reality.
We know this whether you look at the media inside the beltway and look at what they think's important.
Look at these are the people themselves that after the 2004 election say, you know what?
We might actually have to send reporters out to these red states like we send reporters to Europe to find out what's going on.
Yes, and foreign corresponding.
They said this.
I'm not making it up.
I know it sounds like a joke, but it's not.
They're not in touch with what's going on.
The reality of the circumstances down in New Orleans is being totally missed.
There's no racism in this.
How many of the 700 million dollars have been donated have been earmarked for only white people?
Not one.
How many of the 700 million dollars donated have been earmarked for only the successful of the middle class?
Not one.
How many of the white rescuers refuse to rescue black people?
Not one.
And yet racism is alive at well.
And by the way, people want to say, yeah, you know what this is doing?
This is showing the real depths of poverty in this.
No, it's showing the depths of poverty in a liberal Democrat-run community.
It's not showing the depths of poverty in America.
You're not seeing anything like this when this happens in Florida.
You don't see anything like this happening next door in Mississippi.
You do see it happening where Democrats run the show.
The reality is that liberal Democrat policies fail and make people poor and do not do anything about it once that happens.
The reality that we're seeing on the media is 180 degrees different from the reality in the country.
In the media and liberal Democrat world, Walmart is evil.
Walmart in the real world has donated something like $15 million.
In the media real world, the pharmaceutical companies are evil and killing people.
In the real world, the pharmaceutical companies work very hard to come up to make drugs and medicines that save lives and have extended the life expectancy.
They have donated more than $25 million in cash and pharmaceutical supplies.
And what about the oil companies?
In the media reality, the oil companies are the reason for all evil.
It's why we're in Iraq.
It's why Bush is in the White House, it's why Cheney is the vice president, why Halliburton is there.
But in the real world, Exxon Mobil has pledged $7 million.
Conico Phillips and Shell, $3 million a piece.
Marathon Oil, one and a half million.
The BP Foundation, one million dollars.
And guess where that money came from?
It came from profits.
From gasoline.
The government already runs the oil business.
The government tells oil companies where they can't drill and where they can, where they can't ship and where they can, on what kind of ships they can ship their goods and on what kinds of ships they can't.
They tell them what kind of gasoline to formulate for 40 different regions of this country.
It's the government that already runs the oil companies.
If I were the oil companies, I would convene hearings, and I would bring every member of Congress up, and I would start asking them questions.
Why are you trying to destroy this industry?
There are two realities.
Unfortunately, the Republicans in Washington buy into the media reality, and they think that's what the rest of the country thinks.
The fact is, media reality is getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
So they've got a lot of influence, but not nearly the dominant influence they once had.
The media reality does not automatically become the perception of most people in this country anymore.
Those days are over.
And it's about time these Republicans realized it.
And understand just what it is that gets them elected to things.
Look at I make a mistake.
Well, I don't make a mistake.
I quote the American spectator as saying that a Republican senator is upset that Bush should he ought to he ought to rescind the permanency of tax cuts to help pay for this disaster.
And the first thing that happens, that senator calls here and say, Nope, nope, nope, not true.
So the instincts in the senator's office are correct.
His base is not going to be happy if this is a true story, so he can't let this survive.
So he has to call here and get the correction out.
I'm happy he did.
But if which it just means if these people would follow their instincts, instead of being concerned about what the Washington Post style section or the New York Times editorial page or op-ed page, same thing anymore, uh, is gonna say about them.
You know, it does it gets it gets it really uh frustrating to no end.
So you can you can and it's unfortunate too because you can make book on this that that the um the if if anybody if he could just step back for a few feet can see that if anybody's reeling it's the Democrats.
Let me get a couple of stories on that just to just to make the uh point for you.
Um see put it in the wrong.
Let's tell you what, let me take a break.
I thought I had this stuff in the order I wanted to use it, but I don't.
Oh.
Uh nope, that's not it.
I've got three stories here on Democrats.
Here's the first one.
Yeah, okay, just found them.
Let me take a break.
It's time to do it anyway.
But I come back and I'll show you.
The Democrats are the ones sweating bullets over what's happening to voters in Louisiana.
They may not come back and vote where they've always been voting.
There's gold, there's so much opportunity here to finally let the real world's reality triumph.
We've got a media scandal here that can be blown to smithereens, folks.
There has been so much erroneous projection, not even reported, you can call it reporting, but these wild guesses of 10,000 deaths and 25,000 body bags and New Orleans, it's been so bad.
We shouldn't even rebuild New Orleans.
Meanwhile, parts of New Orleans are back up and running.
The people in the French quarter say 90 days and we're back to partying.
And the Mardi Gras people say, yep, and next February we're having our parades.
Well, it's exactly what I told you was going to happen.
The entrepreneurial spirit of America always triumphs and rises up in these circumstances.
The rebuilders rebuild in liberal areas.
Now, people people gonna get mad at me about this, but I'm gonna say it.
You look in areas that are dominated by liberals and the rebuilding is slow.
How many years has it been since New York's World Trade Center was destroyed?
Four years.
What do we have in the place of the World Trade Center?
We have a pit.
We have a hole in the ground, and we have an argument.
The main thing holding up, well, there are a lot of main things, but the main thing holding up rebuilding is where to put the memorial and what kind of memorial it should be.
And we've got an argument.
A bunch of liberals want a memorial that includes how we destroyed the Indians, now we shouldn't have dropped a nuke on Nagasaki and Hiroshima and all these other things.
at a memorial where 9/11 happened.
We've got no building that has been authorized to be rebuilt.
We can't even come up with an architectural design.
It's simple.
You rebuild what was there one foot higher.
It's just that simple, but you get on with it.
Now New York did a fabulous job in the aftermath and dealing with the immediacy of this devastation four years ago.
But the rebuilding effort?
There's some buildings that were condemned four years ago still have yet to be torn down and demolished.
They haven't even gotten there yet.
Meanwhile, some bunch of buzzard loco weeds putting together the memorial in the Pennsylvania field where Flight 93 went down, came up with a design of two rows of maple trees that look suspiciously like the Islamic Red Crescent.
And the theory is, well, there might have been some good Muslims on the plant.
Well, pfft who cares?
What is that have to do?
What is there?
It's insane.
If you leave the self-loathing American left to deal with any aspect that requires growth or rebuilding in this country, you are going to be sadly sadly let down and impatient.
Because nothing's going to happen.
But you leave it to the private sector, the entrepreneurs.
You watch how fast New Orleans comes back, folks, and it will illustrate just what a scandal we had in the making here in the attempted reporting of this, all because they saw an opportunity to finally once and for all destroy the Bush administration.
Well, it I don't know how how much would it take for just two or three Republicans who are elected in Washington to come out and say one-tenth of what I just said and shut this stuff down.
I know the White House puts out guidelines.
The White House says, do not respond.
We're just going to move on with it, let it go over or let it blow over, let this news cycle pass, and so forth and so on.
Well, that's the White House.
But if the Republicans are going to be upset, Because the White House is dilly-dallying, hey, you gonna run for your own re-election, you're gonna get votes for yourself, not for George W. Bush.
So if you can't stand up and tell everybody that voted for you what's obvious out there, like I just did, then maybe maybe it's time somebody else was elected where you are.
I'll take a break and be back in just a second.
Stay with us.
Holy cow, you see this.
Sean Penn.
It's a it's a New York Post picture.
Sean Penn roaming the streets of New Orleans with a shotgun.
What will his Hollywood friend say?
Greetings and welcome back, folks.
I guess he fixed the leak in the boat or plugged the hole in the boat or whatever and saved his shotgun.
Now he's walking.
What's he looking to shoot?
Well, no, seriously.
Why do you need a gun in New Orleans?
It's a perfectly safe liberal run city.
Why do you need a shotgun there?
In fact, they just took the guns away from the uh from the people in New Orleans that stayed there, didn't they?
Or they they announced a program to.
I guess if you're a Hollywood visitor, you can carry your shotgun around.
He just he must be looking at looking for rats and vermin and and stuff.
All right, two stories here.
Associated press, the unprecedented exodus of people from their homes in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina could unleash changes for years to come.
I think we're looking at an event of enormous political and historical importance, said Stephen Hahn, a history professor, University of Pennsylvania.
We've never faced this type of relocation because of a natural disaster.
It's likely to have an enormous impact on our entire country.
Well, many experts expect New Orleans to rebuild.
It's unlikely that the nearly half million evacuees are going to move back.
Specialists say there are lessons to be drawn from historic moves.
For example, New Orleans-style neighborhoods may develop in larger cities with restaurants, music, and cultural aspects of home.
Anyway, the thing goes on to lament the fact that the politics there is going to be forever changed.
The associated press, population shifts caused by the exodus of hurricane victims in the Gulf Coast could have ripple effects for years to come in Louisiana political races and maybe beyond.
How big depends on how many people stay away, which ones stay away and where they end up putting down roots.
The early thinking is the evacuees least likely to return to their homes in the Louisiana may be the poorest.
Well, who could blame them for crying out loud?
Who could blame them?
They're getting a chance now to see other parts of the country, and they're seeing what else is out there, seeing Texas, they're seeing Utah, they're seeing California.
Three New Orleans evacuees have already been hired as teachers in California.
I heard in an email today.
Already got jobs out there.
There's a shortage of teachers in California.
I guess you believe that you believe anything, but there is a shortage of teachers in California.
Maybe it's shortage of teachers that speak English.
But the uh I mean, anyway, you you're gonna have people who uh are not gonna go back, and who could blame them?
And of course, this will end up being a grand uh conspiracy, all plotted by Rove.
Rove and Bush to finally tear away the Democratic stronghold on um Louisiana.
And of course, uh this is gonna the story goes on to talk about how that it's uh problematic for Mary Landrew.
Problematic for Mary Landrew because this is her base that's leaving and uh not coming back.
One other story from Reuters.
Let me just it's it's about Bush making his third trip to the uh to the region.
And it basically is a story about how the Democrats are not happy that local and state ineptitude is taking some of the heat off of George W. Bush.
Uh they're they're very, very upset about this.
They they think that Bush flooding the zone like this uh is a blatant political move, blatant photo ops, uh, and and that it's gonna it's gonna succeed in uh in displaying the local and state ineptitude on uh on all of this.
Now, of course, what this means the liberals are afraid of is that the truth will be learned.
They're afraid that their spin will be spun.
They're afraid that the transparency of their lives will uh be seen.
And so I mention all of this in the context of why do the Republicans want to run around and act weak need and scared.
Why do why do they want to and I tell you why?
Because of the media reality that they believe and these poll numbers and the overall inertia, and I you can't blame them, I guess.
A lot of you people probably succumb to it still until you stop and think about it.
But they ought to be a little bit more clued in.
They're the ones winning elections.
They know who's voting for them and who's not.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
And we go back to the phones as people have been patiently waiting.
This is Jeannie in Houston.
Hi, Jeannie.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi, Rush.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
Thank you.
You were talking about the political fallout for the Ma the governor and the mayor, but I'm talking about what an immediate reaction like a recall.
They're going to have a tremendous amount of money poured into the state.
And they've shown at the very least a gross mismanagement.
And at the worst, just huge craft.
I mean.
You know, that's an interesting question because uh let me go back to something I mentioned at the top of the program to tell you where that battle is being fought.
I mentioned earlier today a story in the New York Times by Robin Toner, which says that this episode says the conservatives have a lot to answer for, in the sense that conservatives have been hammering away at large government and they've been whittling away at large government, and they've gotten they've taken the government down and they've limited it and they've made it less efficient and so forth, or whatever, more efficient, they made it smaller.
And then this disaster comes along, and look why the conservative version of government doesn't succeed.
Uh well, of course, that's that's pure folly.
It's but that there's the government's not smaller in any measurable way.
Uh yes, this has been the desire of some conservatives, but it has not been the desire of this president.
Uh he may be conservative, but he has not tried to make the government smaller.
This this government has built more bureaucracy and layered it on top of other bureaucracies, created homeland security, move FEMA into it, and then and then uh you it just it just made it all the more difficult here for the big bureaucracy to handle itself and to function efficiently as a small one would more likely do.
So you've got that, and that's a media reality once again that's totally untrue.
There is no smaller government.
On the other hand, Jeannie, uh you have the literal fact that more money has gone to New Orleans for levies and Corps of Engineers in five years of the Bush administration than any time during the Clinton administration.
As you pointed out, the local officials have not spent it wisely.
Who knows where it's gone?
It hasn't gone to poverty relief because the poverty rate down there is bad.
The reality is that you have a massive socialist type entitlement state in New Orleans and through a lot of Louisiana, and you look at when a disaster hits, the people are out there saying this is just it's really displaying the depths of American poverty.
No, it's not.
It's displaying the depths of poverty in a liberal Democrat-run community.
Not the depths of poverty in America.
You're not seeing this, as I say from Mississippi.
You don't see stuff like this when hurricanes go through Florida.
You you just you just do not see it.
So what Governor Blanco and Mayor Negan are saying is that the uh it's not their fault, that the the government didn't succeed, government didn't work, and government needs to be bigger.
The left is saying this proves that government's not yet big enough.
The lesson here is something that I and other conservatives have been saying for decades.
And that is that self-reliance and self-responsibility are the best things to be able to fall back on.
You hear that a disaster's coming, make sure that you have the ability to get out of the way.
Make sure you have the ability to move.
We're talking about saving lives here.
Everybody is gonna suffer economic and financial losses in a disaster this size.
So we're talking about saving lives.
Why is it that the people who were able to get themselves out have become enemies?
Why is it that, well, easy for them to do?
But what about the poor?
Well, what about the poor?
We still haven't had the proper argument in this country about why they're poor, and the reason we haven't is because the left believes they're poor because of the construction of this country.
They think that the the system of capitalism dictates that there will be haves and have nots.
And therefore, there is no attempt even made to help the have nots, that capitalism is comfortable with haves and have nots.
But socialism, even though it's never worked, even though it is something that requires revolution, uh dictators and walls to keep people in, even though it's never worked, the self-loathers constantly rely on the promise of socialism, the promise of equality, the good intentions of equality.
We'll make sure that there are no haves and have nots, there are just haves.
Well, when you take away entrepreneurial capitalism free markets, and that's what socialism does, then you don't have you don't have achievers.
You've got people that become more and more and then totally dependent.
And so the argument is really here, is the government not big enough, or is it too big?
The media, which is creating a reality for everybody, is out there saying this proves small government doesn't work and we need to have government get even bigger.
And mark my words, when the inevitable hearings begin, that will be the theme of the left.
The government wasn't big enough, and it wasn't ready enough, and it needs a new department of disaster relief, you know, new cabinet level hurricane, homeland hurricane security, or whatever, something along these lines.
And then we'll have a whole new bureaucracy that's supposed to sit around and do nothing but get ready for these.
On the other hand, you'll have people saying that uh no, the government is too big, and if you're gonna make it even bigger, it's only gonna get worse.
The bottom line, if you want the real truth, the bottom line is that the local and state governments failed miserably.
There's no question about it.
I don't care who wants to try to rewrite history here.
The dirty little secret is that the feds got there pretty quick.
And they got there pretty quick with a lot of stuff that could help people.
They got there faster than they got there in five other hurricanes.
In some cases, the lag was five or six days.
They were there in three days.
This was big.
We now know that the Salvation Army was ready with pallets of food and water to go to the convention center in a superdome, but the State's Department of Homeland Security said, nope, if you take that stuff in there, it's only gonna attract more people and we want to get them out.
As time goes on, this is why you can see Democrats less and less eager for hearings.
As time goes on, we're gonna learn that the federal government did pretty much what it is supposed to do in these circumstances, and that the one element of the federal government that the left literally despises, the U.S. military, deserves the gold medal.
And General Russell Honore, because once he got off the plane and started doing a John Wayne routine, things started happening.
One guy in charge, he didn't care about which bureaucrat he had to answer to, he didn't care about the leaflet of forms that he had to go through and check off that box, check off that box, call this bureaucrat, call that bureaucrat, fill out form 345B, Section 2, subparagraph 4.
He threw all that to the shreds, and he said simply started barking orders.
He said, damn it, go out there and take care of that.
People started marching.
So you can't even really call a military a bureaucracy.
It is a streamlined organization with a definite chain of command.
And when an order is given, it's carried out.
Most of the time, otherwise the person shot.
Uh only kidding, members of the left.
But but the the uh the fear of of not carrying out an order is huge in the uh in the military.
So uh gee, as to your question, will there be political fallout?
The the the governor and the mayor, who may face a recall, I I don't know that it'll it'll get there, but once once once it is finally learned how much money was spent down there, and once once it is learned who actually prevented all that money from being spent, hello, wacko environmentalists.
Hello, militant environmentalist wackos.
If the if the truth, if the reality ever hits mass distribution, then there will be hell to pay.
If the media reality of focusing all this on an inept big government because of who's running this big government, and that of course is George W. Bush.
If it stays there, then Nagan and uh these uh local people will uh will survive.
But Jeannie, what's happening now?
You've got a record amount of federal aid coupled with private donations heading down to that region.
And right now, while you're you you you could go down there and you could look and you wouldn't see it, because it's all happening behind closed doors, but right now the jockeying is on for who's going to be in position to receive those dollars and distribute them.
It is another scandal waiting to happen.
You think the looting so far has been bad?
Huh.
Wait till the looting of the hundred billion dollars starts.
You you just wait.
That's what's being set up now.
Who is going to be in positions of power to accept that money and distribute it?
And I think that a large measure of this is uh or large large factor in this is the positioning that the mayor and the governor taking here to try to be in position to have access to those dollars.
When you're in politics, it's all about money.
It's all about raising it and spending it because that is where you derive your power.
And it's particularly in in liberal and socialist run uh communities.
When you've got the money to pass out and handout, you've got the money to buy power.
And put two and two together here.
Quick time out.
We'll be back and continue in just a sec.
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Well, I'm watching this during the break, the Senate hearings, and I'm just watching Senator Dick Turbin.
Um Dick Turbin is doing his from Illinois.
He of Club Gitmo fame.
Ha!
I wish Roberts would have shown up in a club gitmo t-shirt today.
Maybe maybe a club gitmo Java coffee cup.
Just for Dick Turban.
Um anyway, Dick Turban is up there saying, You're going to be judged here, Judge.
You're going to be judged on one question.
Just one question.
You're going to expand the personal freedoms of the Americans.
Are you going to restrict them?
You're going to expand personal freedom or you're going to restrict personal freedom.
I was reading the the uh this Durban guy is.
It's going to be easier to deal with this tomorrow once they've got sound bites and have been able to read the transcript of what every one of these uh senators has said.
But I just went to National Review Online's bench memos log uh blog, which is uh where they chronicle minute by minute what's happening here in the confirmation hearings and the battle.
And the um administrator, Catherine Gina Lopez, who runs the whole website, posted the following from her inbox.
She got an email from somebody.
The Republicans need to defend a vision of the Constitution and not merely laid down procedural rules for the confirmation process.
In today's opening remarks, the Democrats again and again proposed a vision of the Constitution in which unelected judges take it upon themselves to push society in a policy direction favored by liberal Senate Democrats.
That's what the Senate Democrats are saying in their opening statements.
That's what judges ought to do.
Because liberal Senate Democrats associate themselves with expanding freedom.
The Republicans, says the, and the writer, I'll give you his name here in a minute, the Republicans must articulate a competing vision in which questions of policy and morality are decided by the people through their elected representatives and not by unelected judges.
The Senate Democrats complained repeatedly about Supreme Court rulings overturning congressional decisions.
And yet they were silent on the all too common practice of justices substituting their policy preferences for those of state legislators and of the people.
And he goes out and makes a couple of uh other points.
Uh but and you're one of these things that the Democrats have been focusing on is the Commerce Clause, which they have uh uh they have used to grant themselves legislative powers they don't have, making state law in its in effect, and some judges have found those laws uh unconstitutional and have uh struck them down and overturned them.
And that angers people like Ted Kennedy and and uh uh Dick Turban and and Patrick Leahy.
Uh the letter writer here to Kathleen uh or Catherine Gene Lopez was Rick Garnett, who is a professor of law at the University of Notre Dame, and a former clerk for Chief Justice Rehnquist, and he's exactly right.
And and you know, Levin says this in his book.
This is i i i uh uh the the the the a lot of us on the conservative side have but when are the Republicans gonna stand up for the philosophy?
When are they gonna stand up and represent the philosophy?
It's not about process here, it's not about the procedures that we go through in these hearings.
If the Democrats are gonna say that unelected judges have a responsibility to push society in the form of judicial rulings, in a policy direction favored by liberals.
It's up to the Republicans to stand up and say that's not what's at stake here.
That's not what we are debating, and that's not what these confirmation hearings are about.
These hearings are about finding justices who are not going to impose personal policy preferences because the elected representatives of the people do that in our legislative bodies.
The judicial branch is not where laws are made.
Uh and once again, it just gets it just goes to the um I don't know if there's a better word for timidity of the of the Republic.
I don't know.
I can't I can't explain it.
I'm gonna give up trying.
Kathy, Middleton, Wisconsin, welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
How are you?
Fine, thank you.
God.
Um I just called because I believe you misinterpreted Governor Blanco's comments when um that we're overheard about overheard about wanting to uh whether she should have sent in the military and not wanting to put good people in harm's way.
I think when she was referring to good people, she was referring to the military, not wanting to send them in and have them be in harm's way of the storm and the flood, and the poor black people are just a liability and are therefore expendable, where the military are an asset, they have skills, they're contributing members to society.
How else do you explain neither the governor nor the mayor truly evacuating those people?
Uh yeah, well we've we've uh uh yes, uh we we've been discussing this uh uh quite a lot here in uh one form or another, but time is growing short.
I want to go back and play the bite, and let me let me set the bite up here.
This is Kathleen Blanco, the governor, and this is between interviews on television on August 31st.
She's just talking to her press secretary about calling the military in for help.
This was overheard and recorded.
I said we're not tolerating it.
We're asking more military presence.
But I mean I'm saying good people.
I really need to call for the military.
In the first call.
All right.
Now, some people are saying that that's uh not what she uh th she's not saying why she didn't call in the military.
Some people are saying that that's what she's saying she's going to be her excuse for not calling in the military.
That she's she's she's planning her defense.
Your theory is that she's actually referring to the military as the good people that she doesn't want to put in jeopardy because of the hellhole they'd be sent into.
Is that is that what you think?
Well, because they would be subject to the storm and the flood.
I'm not sure when it was she was referring to sending in the military before the hurricane hit or right after, before the levees broke.
Um what was the time frame there?
Well, this is August, this is August 31st when she's uh saying this, and she's admitting in this bite either that she should have asked for military much sooner, or that that's gonna be her excuse that she should have asked.
Now, as to who she's talking about, you have raised a whole new uh uh shall we say path for me, a clear to do path for me on this that I'm gonna have to contemplate.
Uh and I don't have time now, sadly, because we're out of it.
But I appreciate the call, Kathy.
We'll be back in uh just a second.
Stop the stop it, stop it, stop it, stop.
Folks, Mike Brown, FEMA head, has quit.
He's fallen on a sword.
Yeah!
The left finally has a corpse that they like.
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