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Sept. 6, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 6, 2005, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Uh, folks, I am sorry.
I I would have led off the program with this.
I I have been under a terrible uh misconception.
I thought by now everybody would have known that there was a documented, detailed evacuation plan for the city of New Orleans that was not implemented at all.
But I'm reading my email.
Well, I never heard of this.
Now I I didn't get a chance to.
I mean, I didn't spend the whole weekend watching television, but I would have thought certainly by now, the mainstream press would have uncovered this.
It's been all over the place.
Snerdley didn't even know about it.
Uh I'm I'm terribly sorry about this.
Let me let me start there.
This I'm I'm holding in my in my formerly nicked stained fingers.
This is uh Annex One Hurricanes Preparedness.
City of New Orleans comprehensive emergency management plan.
Part two evacuation.
This thing is is huge.
It's typical of something a bureaucracy would produce.
No wonder nobody read it.
Nobody probably can.
You probably need a library to house the whole thing.
But I've got here just Annex One hurricanes.
Part two, evacuation.
Roman numeral one general.
The safe evacuation of threatened populations when endangered by a major catastrophic event is one of the principal reasons for developing a comprehensive emergency management plan.
That's capitalized.
CEMP, the thorough identification of at-risk populations, transportation and sheltering resources, evacuation routes and potential bottlenecks and choke points, and the establishment of the management team that'll coordinate not only the evacuation, but which will monitor and direct the sheltering and return of affected populations are the primary tasks of evacuation planning.
Due to the geography of New Orleans and the varying scales of potential disasters and their resulting emergency evacuations, different plans are in place for small-scale evacs and for citywide relocations of whole populations.
Authority to issue evacuation of elements of the population is vested in the mayor.
By executive order, the chief elected official, the mayor of the city of New Orleans, has the authority to order the evacuation of residents threatened by an approaching hurricane.
Evacuation procedures for special needs persons with either physical or mental handicaps, including registration of disabled persons is covered in the standard operating procedure for evacuation of special needs persons, which is a different annex of this report.
Major population relocations resulting from an approaching hurricane or similar anticipated disaster caused the City of New Orleans Office of Emergency Preparedness to develop a specific hurricane emergency evacue standard operating procedures, which are appended to the comprehensive emergency management plan.
The standard operating procedure is developed to provide for an orderly and coordinated evacuation intended to minimize the hazardous effects of flooding, wind, and rain on the residents and visitors in New Orleans.
Standard operating procedure provides for the evacuation of the public from danger areas and the designations of shelters for evacuees.
Paragraph for Roman numeral two is concept of operations.
Uh and it it's quite detailed in in what it says.
Here's uh paragraph I highlighted.
The city of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas.
Those evacuated will be directed to temporary sheltering and feeding facilities as needed.
When specific routes of progress are required, evacuees will be directed to those routes.
Special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to transport themselves or who require specific life-saving assistance.
Additional personnel will be recruited to assist in evacuation procedures as needed.
None of this was done.
None of this was done.
Folga, you can sit there.
You can blame FEMA.
You can blame you can.
FEMA's not a first response organization anyway.
They're not an early responder.
Go read what FEMA's charges.
You will not find they're the first on the scene.
That's not what they do.
There is so much misinformation, apparently, that's out there on this.
And again, forgive me.
I I just I just assumed that that this would be widely known by now.
Um let me read this again.
The city of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas.
Special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to transport themselves or who require specific life-saving assistance.
Additional personnel will be recruited to assist in evacuation procedures needed.
All this, by the way, comes under the authority of the mayor.
As specified in from what I'm reading.
It's kind of sad when you go through this.
And we learn now that on Sunday before the hurricane arrival here, the president begging the governor to declare an emergency and get people out of there, and she dithered for 24 hours.
By the way, this is not White House spin that tells me that.
It's an associated press story, folks.
Where the president made this phone call.
Under uh under uh paragraph three, evacuation order, Roma numeral A, evacuation time requirements.
Using information developed as part of the Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Task Force and other research, the City of New Orleans has established a maximum acceptable hurricane evacuation time for a category three storm of 72 hours.
This is based on clearance time, or is the time required to clear all vehicles evacuating in response to a hurricane situation from area roadways.
Clearance time begins when the first evacuating vehicle enters the road network and ends when the last evacuating vehicle reaches its destination.
Now, by the way, it also stipulates that for people who have no transportation, that city municipal transportation, school buses, public buses will be used to get them out of the city.
Remember, these people were told to walk to the superdome, or to get there on their own, however they could get there, to bring their own food.
This is their local government that was promising them all these years to take care of them.
Bring your own food, use the Hoof Express, get yourself to the Superdome.
By the way, we don't expect the electricity to last all night because it's a bad storm.
So we know the bathrooms aren't gonna work.
I mean, it it yet, you know, you can talk about folks all day long about the horror we saw of whatever numbers of people could not get out of there after the flooding and after the hurricane.
But what about this this whole document that specifies how they are to be gotten out of there before this happens?
An evacuation before this happens is far simpler, easier and more sensible than trying to evacuate survivors.
You can't, you've got to get rid of everybody when this storm's coming.
You can't deploy the military to sit there and take hits.
You can't you can't send FEMA down there to stand there in the middle of the storm, so they're on the scene when the storm passed.
You get everybody out of there, and then as soon as you can get people back in, you do.
Clearance time also includes the time required by evacuees to secure their homes and prepare to leave, the time spent by evacuees traveling along the road network, and the time spent by evacuees waiting along the road network due to traffic congestion.
In other words, 72 hours because they anticipate traffic jams.
They anticipate all the problems that can come with an evacuation.
So it's supposed to start 72 hours before a category three.
Now, we know that there have been previous storms hit New Orleans and they didn't hit, or if they did hit, they weren't that bad, so even if we get hit won't be that bad.
Well, yeah, that's what the normal person's gonna say.
The leadership of a city's gotta say, uh-uh, we're Getting out of here.
A Cat 3 Cat 4 is headed our way.
We can't take a chance.
Now, the mayor was on television begging people to leave.
I'm not denying that.
And he said, this is not a test, this is not a drill, but there was no implementation of this plan whatsoever.
Here are the time frames.
Precautionary evacuation notice, 72 hours or less.
Special needs evacuation order, 8 to 12 hours after the precautionary evacuation notice is issued, and the general evacuation notice 48 hours or less.
So the first 24 hours of evacuation are designed in this manual to get people out of there who can't get out on their own.
The others who can get out, and it says here, primary responsibility for evacuating will be yours, the citizens.
Getting out your own transportation.
You have to provide it.
For people who can't, first 24 hours, we're going to pack them up on city buses and get them out of here.
This did not happen.
I again, I'm sorry.
I I thought I was going to start out by keeping it simple, stupid.
I just assumed that a lot of people knew this, which is why I said that what we had on there was an eminent failure of state and local government.
We had incompetence in a mayor's office, incompetence in a governor's office, and we had the utter illustration, total illustration, the utter failure of entitlement mentalities from government on down.
Just stand by after the break.
I mean, it gets even better than what I've shared with you so far.
Don't go away.
Hi, we're back.
Telephone number 800-282-2882.
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The New Orleans Times Picky Yoon on Monday called for every official at FEMA to be fired.
In an open letter to President Bush, the New Orleans Times Picky Yoon said our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could not or could have been or not.
That's to the government's shame, quote unquote.
But the Times Picky Yun published a story on July 24th of this year, barely a month and a half ago.
And they said this.
City, state, and federal emergency officials are preparing to give a historically blunt message.
In the event of a major hurricane, you are on your own.
So six weeks ago, the New Orleans Times Picky Yoon runs a story intended for the population of New Orleans.
Hey, major storm comes your way.
City, state, and federal emergency officials are preparing to tell you that you're on your own.
Staff writer Bruce Nolan reported some seven weeks before Katrina, quote, in scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagan, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins, and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way, an estimated 134,000 people without transportation.
In the video made by the Anti-Poverty Agency, Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation.
This is seven weeks ago.
And I'm reading to you from New Orleans paper.
Seven weeks ago, the city leaders said we can't get you out if something happens.
134th, you are on your own.
And yesterday, the same newspaper demands that everybody at FEMA be fired.
You are responsible for your safety, says this video, and you should be responsible for the person next to you.
You if you have some room to get that person out of town, some way out of the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area.
We can help you.
You can get yourself out of here on your own.
So seven weeks ago, pretty much admitting that they could not implement their own evacuation plan.
And so now that it happens, and guess what?
Guess what?
Guess whose time it is to get blamed, the federal government.
FEMA, you name it.
Uh it is.
It's strictly past the buck.
More from the evacuation plan.
If an evacuation order is issued without the mechanisms needed to disseminate the information to the affected persons, then we face the possibility of having large numbers of people either stranded and left to the mercy of a storm or left in an area impacted by toxic materials.
They knew what was going to happen.
And they were prepared for it, and they were worried about the fact that if they gave an evacuation order, and some people couldn't hear it or read it because they didn't have newspapers or television or radio, then we were in deep doo-doo.
They knew all of this.
And I can't get over the picture of all those school buses and municipal buses flooded and basically ruined.
Trying to get people out of there.
All of this, by the way, let me just read to you again.
Due to the sheer size and number of persons to be evacuated, should a major tropical weather system or other catastrophic events threaten or impact the area, specifically directed long-range planning and coordination of resources and responsibilities efforts must be undertaken.
The clearance times facing Orleans Parish for a severe hurricane will necessitate proper traffic control and early evacuating decision making.
The evacuation must be completed before the arrival of Gale Force winds.
A thorough identification of at-risk populations, transportation and sheltering resources, evacuation routes, and potential bottlenecks and choke points, and the establishment of the management team that'll coordinate not only the evacuation, but which will monitor and direct the sheltering and return of affected populations are the primary tasks of evacuation planning.
Again, authority to issue evacuations, the population is vested in the mayor.
So, I mean, it's patently obvious here, and I guess...
I guess the mainstream press hasn't been talking about this all weekend.
Is that is that what you're telling me, Mr. Snertley?
You have not uh heard any of this on television.
You hear any of this on TV, Don?
There's a story in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette today uh by Craig Martell, retired as a major in the U.S. Marine Corps, lives in North Huntingdon.
Uh in uh near Pittsburgh.
He recently launched the Strategic Outlook Institute of Public Policy Organization.
He said, uh, don't be so quick to pillory the federal response in New Orleans.
Immediate emergency management is primarily a local and state responsibility.
As one who has received training by FEMA in emergency management and also training by the Department of Defense, I believe the federal response in New Orleans needs clarification.
The key to emergency management starts at the local level, expands to the state level after that.
Emergency planning generally does not include any federal guarantees, as there can only be limited ones from the federal level of any local plan.
FEMA provides free training, education, assistance, and response in case of an emergency, but the local and state officials run their own emergency management program.
Prior development of an emergency plan addressing all foreseeable contingencies is the absolute requirement of the local government, and then they share that plan with the state emergency managers to ensure that the state authorities can provide necessary assets not available at the local level.
Additionally, good planning will include applicable elements of the federal government, those located in the local area.
These processes are well established, but are contingent upon the personal drive of both hired and elected officials at the local level.
I've reviewed the New Orleans emergency management plan.
Here is an important section in the first paragraph.
Let me read it again.
Drive the point home.
We coordinate all city departments and allied state and federal agencies which respond to citywide disasters and emergencies through the development and constant updating of an integrated multi-hazard plan.
All requests for federal disaster assistance and federal funding subsequent to disaster declarations are also made through this office.
Our authority is defined by the Louisiana Emergency Assistance and Disaster Act of 1993, Chapter 6, Section 709, paragraph B. Says each parish shall maintain a disaster agency, which, except as otherwise provided under this act, has jurisdiction over and serves the entire parish.
Check the plan.
The we in this case is the office of the mayor, Ray Nagan, who was very quick and vocal about blaming everybody but his own office.
Here's that telling picture taken by the Associated Press on September 1st and widely circulated.
I guess this picture's only been on the internet.
I guess I guess uh this picture's not been on television.
Have you seen the pictures of all these school buses, Mr. Snurley?
They're sitting in flooded.
It's it's it must Be hundreds of them here.
A school bus park filled to capacity with buses under about four feet of water.
If a mandatory evacuation was ordered, why weren't all the taxpayer purchased buses used in this effort?
Particularly on the people who had no way of getting themselves out.
The folks in New Orleans who are perpetrating the violence and lawlessness are not that way because of low income or of race, but because they personally don't have any honor or commitment to higher ideals.
The civil rights leaders ought to be ashamed at playing the blame game.
The blame is on the individuals.
The blame's on the society that allowed these individuals to develop the idea that the individual is greater than the national pride he's destroying.
And we haven't even discussed the looters here, folks.
That's yet to come, I suppose, but I've got to take a brief time out again, and I promise we'll go to your phones after the break, and we will continue on this uh same thread.
You must know about this now.
800-282-2882, if you want to be on the program, here is uh Vince in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Hello, sir, you're up next.
Uh good uh afternoon, Rush.
Uh I just want to take issue with uh the way you're spinning the facts around to try and uh absolve President Bush.
I'm spinning nothing.
There's no way that there is not a racial component to this.
This is the land of David Duke.
This is the land uh I mean, President Bush did not even leave.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, was David Duke in charge of evacuation New Orleans?
No, he wasn't.
But it but David Duke uh represents the mindset of the Republican Party.
He was a Republican, correct?
Oh, geez.
Vince, do you really think that wait a bit?
Well, hold it, hold it.
In your heart, do you really do you really believe the Republican Party wants black people to die?
I really do.
After this debacle, this disgrace that I've witnessed on national TV.
I'm sure that 99% of black America feels the same way about the Republican Party.
That may be, but that's an absolute shame.
Because nothing nothing could be further from the truth.
Vince, who who's been running New Orleans for the last 35 or 40 years?
What party?
The Democratic Party.
What party has been running the state of New Orleans for the last 25 or 30 or 40 years?
Well, the Democratic Party.
Well then tell me something.
How in the world do you get from what happened to poor black people in New Orleans, run by Democrats and a state run by Democrats, a city that failed to implement the evacuation plan for the specific people you're talking about?
How do you get from there to blaming Republicans want black people dead?
Well, I mean, I I think that uh it's just a a pattern, an ongoing pattern.
Bush's refusal to meet with black leaders, the the CBC, the NAAC plea.
He does he just doesn't care about what goes on with black America, and you know, uh that's just a few more voters that he doesn't have to worry about voting against Republicans.
You know, Vince, uh the the your call does does more to depress me than what I'm seeing in New Orleans.
Because I have no doubt you really believe what you just said.
And I I have no doubt that probably a lot of black people believe exactly what you just said.
The crime is that you've been told this by a bunch of race hustlers who want you to believe it for their own self-interests and purposes.
The Republican Party has been trying to reach out to blacks for as long as I have been watching politics.
George Bush has only refused to meet with the NAACP.
Why should George Bush meet with anybody like Julian Bond who has accused him of being Hitler, who is accused him of being a murderer?
He'll meet with the Urban League.
George Bush has more responsible black people in high-level government positions than any previous administration, including Bill Clinton's in American history.
Now, Vince, I think you're a lost cause, and it's an absolute shame.
And it and it it's it's I I think the people think like you're an absolute lost cause in terms of being able to have you see this for what it really is.
You ought to be looking at these people in New Orleans who were suffering last week, and you ought to be concluding that they have been promised things by a party, the Democratic Party, which has utterly failed them.
You ought To be asking yourself after 50 years of complaining about whatever it is that you've been complaining about and voting for the people who've been promising you they're going to fix it, why is it that you're still complaining?
You don't know George Bush from Tom Sawyer or Hook Finn.
You don't know George Bush, but yet you think George Bush wants black people dead.
And I know that this is part and parcel of the cliche that liberals have sponsored and uh successfully apparently put out there about all Republicans racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe.
And the reason that exists is because you can't debate or your your leaders cannot debate us on the substance of ideas.
They have to discredit us before the debate begins, so we're not even worth debating with.
But the idea that you actually believe that George Bush had anything to do with what happened in New Orleans because he wanted black people to suffer or die.
I would be ashamed to admit in public I actually think that.
If I If I actually thought it, I'd be I'd I'd be afraid of being laughed out of the room in which I said it.
But you know it's even it's even worse than that.
There, there are there are now people, in fact, of the president, somebody, White House press secretary, somebody recently was uh shouted a question by a reporter.
What about the rumor that the levees were um uh broken on purpose?
I I I guess I guess Vince thinks that's possible too, that Bush ordered the levees broken so that black people specifically would be flooded and killed.
Well, Vince, let me ask you one question.
Who is it that's getting them out of there?
Who is it that's rescuing them?
Who is it that's rehabilitating them?
Who is it that's taking them to high safe ground?
Who is it that's flying them wherever they have to?
Who is it that's trying to reunite them with their families?
How in the world you know, you can you can look at this and suggest that this is happening because Bush hates black people and wants them to die because he doesn't meet with black leaders.
The only group he doesn't meet with is the MAACP.
And why should he reward them with the things they've said?
It was the same thing.
Why should he meet with you?
After the things you've just said about George Bush, what would be the point of meeting with you, Vince?
Your mind's made up.
It'd be pointless discussion.
The fact of the matter is that even though such thinking exists in the country, uh efforts are still made to reach out, save to rescue the very people who apparently believe they were targeted for murder by a hurricane that I guess George Bush steered to New Orleans, by a hurricane that I guess George Bush actually is responsible for creating because he hasn't done enough on global warming.
Um you have to ask yourself if Bush wants black people to die, why aren't they dying in the droves in Mississippi, Vince?
And why aren't they dying in droves in Alabama?
You got to get a little bit more local here, Vince, and if you really want to get to the bottom of this, you admitted that your city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana have been run by blacks and Democrats for all of these years, and somehow you don't see that?
Somehow you miss that.
How how in the world Vince, how do you look at the mayor or the governor of New Orleans at any year in the past 30 years and look at the poverty in New Orleans and exempt them if politicians are responsible for the welfare and the safety and the prosperity of citizens?
How do you explain the Democratic Party presiding over such rampant poverty in New Orleans?
How do you explain the Democratic Party allowing a hundred thousand or more citizens to not have transportation out of the city during an emergency?
How in the world do you get from that the reality to blaming George W. Bush for it simply because he doesn't meet with black people?
Jeff in Houston, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
Good morning.
How are you doing, sir?
Oh, I'm I'm doing okay.
New Orleans evacue dittoes.
Thank you, sir.
Oh, you're I are you in the Astrodome?
No, no, no.
I'm I'm in a relative's home outside of New Orleans.
I see.
Yeah, I'd I I wanted to cover a few things and I'll try to get it done for you quickly.
Uh the uh I'd like you to consider consulting with WWL TV and radio in New Orleans that we listen to you on and try to get a summary of the timeline of the way things were announced since last Thursday and Friday uh not not this past, but before the storm, because some of your statements are not actually or are not factually accurate.
In general, what you're saying is right on it as it always is, but there were some timelines and things that you've stated that I I can personally tell you I witnessed on TV and on the radio that don't hold up with the way you're describing such as.
I mean I don't really wrong.
What what what I'm just read from the evacuation plan that's the evacuation plan was published in Plackerman's Parish 90 hours before the storm.
St. Bernard Parish, 75 hours.
I may have the numbers a little off, but Ray Nagan came on and posted these things on the TV, on the radio, and said these people are to leave now.
The next group.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
I said the mayor was I watched him on television.
It's not a drill, it's not an exercise.
Exactly.
The point the point I'm referring to, the specific point is this plan also deals with the hundred thousand or so that couldn't leave.
That's right.
That well, nothing nothing was done.
Nothing in that plan about those people was implemented.
On eight o'clock in the morning, the special needs people were told to come to the Superdome.
They were warned if you're not special needs where you need dialysis, et cetera, don't come.
At noon, we're gonna open it up for you.
We have RTA, the transit bus system in New Orleans is going to be located at these places for you to get on the bus and come to the Superdome.
Those were located all over the city, and people were transported toward the Superdome.
Now, cutting to the reality of it, the the wolf crying wolf problems we've had over the last several years.
People have a mentality that I'm not gonna go fight for three days and spend hundreds of dollars to sit outside of New Orleans only to have to come back and I didn't have to leave.
Unfortunately, that set a mindset in a lot of people's minds.
Now, when the water drains off and you get an aerial view of the of the dri of the flooded area, you're gonna see a lot of automobiles rush that are there.
Those people chose not to get in their automobiles and leave.
And that's the unfortunate result of their experience and their mentality of it's gonna blow over.
Okay now.
Chef, I don't disagree with any of that, but I th let me I'm glad you called because if you misunderstood what I was referring to and focusing on in the evacue plan.
Yes, I was specifically talking about the people who couldn't get out, who didn't have transportation.
The AvaC plan says that public transportation will evacuate them, category three or higher, not just to the superdome, but out of the city.
You've got the school have you seen the picture of all the school buses flooded?
Y Yes, I have.
All right.
Well, I mean, they're clearly parts of this plan where not implemented.
Now that's that's one thing.
Okay, if they just leave it there, but we go from there to somehow it's Washington's fault.
I understand that.
I understand the ideology problems.
Let me just put another pinpoint on the time scale for you.
When the storm was over and Tuesday morning, people walked out of their houses and said, Thank God we survived another one.
They started to clean up, and the levee broke.
Now you have to set a time mark when that levee broke and the water started rushing in pr much time past the hurricane had been gone.
And that's the point in time where the true emergency began.
If you follow the difference between the hurricane itself and the levee breaking and the water flooding in, people right next to that levee talked about the water running up in their house and they had to get out of there.
I understand.
You know, uh you you and I are not on on different pages as you think.
I understand all that.
Again, we know now, and I don't know how widely known it is, but but it was well it was well prophesied that these levies would not withstand anything more than a category three.
Uh and that's why the evacuation of people who can't get out on their own is specified.
Look, I I'm I'm not I'm not trying to to to to rewrite history here.
What what what I'm trying to do is it was bring a little perspective to the blame game that's going on.
You have to understand here that uh uh I don't like playing the blame game, and I said this every day last week that I was here that I hated even having to discuss this in these circumstances.
But the blame game is all we've been getting on the media.
We've had Tim Russell demanding that Chernoff resign.
We've had uh uh others demanding that FEMA be disbanded and it resigned and FEMA been moved out of homeland security and back to its own agency.
We've had Bush being blamed.
You just heard it for killing black people and targeting them.
I'm not just gonna sit here and let this go by.
Granted, everything you say is true.
It had the levies not busted, then we'd have a whole different situation.
But it was well known that these levies wouldn't hold or likely wouldn't hold.
There was an IVAC plan that was not implemented, given these circumstances.
You can say, okay, the citizens didn't want to leave, and they because they they they've been cried Wolf 2 too many times.
Even at that, then we gotta blame it on them, but we don't blame it on Washington.
If people had the means to get out of there and didn't, then if we're gonna play the blame game, the blame game stays in New Orleans as far as I'm concerned.
I hear you.
Let me let me ask you to make a note if if you wouldn't mind.
And if you can acquire an interview from Eddie Compass, the chief of police of New Orleans that was on WWL TV, you'll hear him talk about this is a different issue than we've been discussing specifically, but own the looters and all that.
You need to hear what this man has to say.
Summarize summarize it for me.
Basically, the police, 1,500 policemen in the city of New Orleans were trying to handle it.
They were inside the civic center, and what these men did was they'd see the the muzzle fire of a rifle or a gun, and they would walk through the dark and find that individual and grab him and physically get the gun out of his hand because it was pitch black in there, they could not fire.
And he's got story after story of that, and he hasn't been seen because there was no communication, there was no TV.
The analogy is if Giuliani had to go to Albany to talk to people, just like our people had to go to Baton Rouge to talk to people.
I'm looking at the TV here in Houston, and WW has relocated as they did immediately.
Only thing we get out of New Orleans right now is from Baton Rouge.
And I don't think there's any way to make a comparison to the severity of what happened.
Forget the blame, forget the levies, forget all the history that they should have done better.
The fact that this is so different than anything this country has seen, and uh that's that's pretty much it.
It's not it's not.
It's not.
That's the thing.
Go read about the Galveston or read about this over the weekend.
You know what they did after when they caught the looters in the Galveston?
They shot 'em.
They strung them up and they shot 'em.
There was no I mean, it's this is not unprecedented.
That's history didn't begin in in in uh in this country last week.
Gotta go back in just a second.
Well, have some audio sound bites in the uh in the next hour.
A couple interesting uh uh A and B side-by-comparisons of what they've said uh or what the New York Times has said about levy uh uh construction and so forth down in New Orleans.
But first, Jill in Valencia, California.
Hi, welcome to the program.
Hi, Rush.
Thanks so much for being here.
We missed you the three-day weekend and Friday.
Um it's so good to have a voice of reason.
I've been so upset at listening to things going on, and and I have to agree with you with not only has the Democrats and the left um told us to rely on them and the government for our our uh our Social Security and our health care, but they demonize and completely try to decimate all the time the very people who are down there and helped out from uh almost the beginning hours, and those are our Christian organizations and other religious organizations that were there were within hours to setting up food and shelter for people right here.
Not on not only that Jill, don't uh I mentioned this earlier.
Don't leave the military out of that.
The same military they hate for Abu Grab and Club Gitmo is the same military that went down there and kick some buttons actually got something done.
And of course now they're all praising this John Wayne guy, General Honore, or Honore is I guess how he pronounces his name.
But you're exactly right.
Private sector charities, religious charities, and the military, they've rolled their sleeves up getting it done.
These are the groups often disparaged by the big government crowd.
I gotta run.
I was long uh in the previous segment with our guy from New Orleans.
Back in a sec.
Still lots more to come, including your phone calls.
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