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Aug. 30, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 30, 2005, Tuesday, Hour #3
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Still a lot of discussion today about Hurricane Katrina Vandenhoovel.
The uh the helicopters are in the air today surveying the damaged areas, and it's unbelievable.
In my lifetime, I have never seen this kind of devastation brought on a minute maybe in a small area, relatively small area by a tornado.
But I have not seen what I'm uh what I'm seeing today.
And uh I, you know, we we are uh having some fun here with some of the people on the well, I say having fun, we're we're calling attention uh to the smallness, the small-mindedness and the pettiness of uh of many on the left who still want to try to politicize this from the standpoint of,
well, there aren't enough National Guard because Bush sent them all to Iraq uh to American uh uh corporate uh entities, they're gonna be down there trying to gouge people when just the exact opposite is happening.
The left's most hated retailer, Walmart is leading the charge uh in raising money and donating money and items for the uh for the relief effort.
Uh but all of that aside, uh you can't help when you watch this, but be overwhelmed.
Overwhelmed.
Uh, you know, the it what do you do first?
I mean, after I'm talking about the rebuilding effort, you know, they're they're still lifting people out of homes in New Orleans.
They're still punching holes in homes and uh and people are climbing out.
And uh, as Dawn said during the break to me, he says probably a lot more fatality.
They have a re of the what is it, 6555 that have been reported, none in Louisiana so far.
They haven't even they they haven't, they have five how how much?
Five for five confirmed for Louisiana.
Well, on the graphic I saw moments ago, uh they didn't have any listed, so they have uh they have found some death toll is gonna go up.
And then you have then you have the global warming crowd that's out there trying to blame Bush for this or blame America because we're not doing enough to stop certain emissions that supposedly call cause uh global warming, and it totally misses the point.
This this constant effort to fix blame and this constant effort to fix blame on this country, to blame this country for this kind of thing.
It's just makes me sick, folks.
It makes me angry.
Uh they're gonna be the vultures.
There will be vultures involved in this.
There always are, but they're not gonna be the usual suspects on the left.
I can't wait and see what the trial lawyers figure out this is gonna be worth to them when the time comes.
That's that's another disaster uh waiting to happen.
Uh but there are other things happening out there.
The um uh cable nez cable news networks are doing a uh a good job of airing video that's coming out of the uh the damaged areas, and as I say, if you haven't seen it yet, some of this is new today because they're just now able to get in the air, the weather has passed, and they're surveying the damage.
You won't believe it if you haven't seen it yet.
Really, what one of the most shocking things I just saw, uh a bunch of boats, uh, and it looks like they're they're on very thick, muddy, dirty water, and they're not.
They're they're they're on wood, uh looks like mulch, uh used to be homes and buildings.
And this stuff has just been destroyed to a pulp.
So uh prepare yourselves for um some shocking scenes when you have a chance to look at these pictures yourselves.
But as I say, there are other things going on out there, and we want to comment on them as the um uh well that the you know life goes on and there are things that are are going to continue to happen.
One of the things that's coming up next Tuesday is the uh confirmation hearings for Judge Roberts uh will begin.
And uh Patrick Leahy did something strange yesterday.
He actually went off mess, he did two things strange.
He called Roberts back for a second meeting, and he uh he gave him a letter uh in a memo.
I'm gonna ask you about this.
And I'll give you the details of this in just a second.
And uh and then he also said, and this is where you know I I have to think that I know I'm not even sure if what I read is right, but Leahy said that he's not gonna ask any judge how they would rule on any issue.
Because any judge that would tell anybody how they're gonna rule on an issue before the issue or a case has come before them.
Why Leahy says any litigant that would appear before the court with a judge on it like that would have would have no confidence whatsoever.
The judge's mind would already be made up.
Why should I even argue my case?
Now, this is I cannot believe Patrick Leahy said this, and I will guarantee you that he is being stared daggers by Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein, who have already been out there, you damn right he's going to answer questions.
He's going to answer questions about Roe versus Wade, he's going to answer questions about privacy, he's going to ask all kinds of questions.
Yeah, I I something's still up on this.
I, you know, Leahy didn't go off message on purpose.
Uh uh, there's there's there's I mean, uh by accident.
There's something's up, but we're not going to know what it is till the hearings start.
For example, there's uh the Washington Post today has a column by E.J. Dion Jr., and it's titled The Democrats' Supreme Conundrum.
You know what a conundrum is?
Uh what is it, Mr. Snurtley?
Well, it's it's a dilemma with more than two options.
A conundrum is a multiple dilemma for those of you in Rio Linda.
And so it's it's not here that you know that you have a dilemma, you go one way or the other way.
Conundrum is which way do I go?
Uh reports that Senate Democrats are deeply divided over how to deal with the Supreme Court nomination of Judge John Roberts, both oversimplify what's happening and underestimate the conundrums the Democratic Party faces.
Democrats are less divided than then than they are uncertain.
They worry about doing too little to challenge Roberts, but they also doubt their capacity to stop his nomination.
Now, this is right on the m-D.
Do you understand the way we're currently structured in the Senate, we've got 55 Republicans and we've got 45 Democrats.
Well, yeah, 45 Democrats.
I know there's some wayward Republicans, but on this nomination, there aren't I I have you heard of a Republican defection yet?
I haven't.
I it's too soon to know that there won't be.
But on a straight party line vote, the Democrats don't have a prayer stopping the guy unless they go filibuster.
And I I've rethought that I think if they thought there were political gains to be made by going filibuster, they would have done it already.
Uh I know they tried to maneuver Republicans into triggering them uh uh instituting their filibuster, but it's like, you know, it it's like people who supposedly are in a position of power and yet they don't use it.
Well, maybe they didn't have the power we all thought.
Well, they have come to the realization here that they are not the powerful majority in this Senate.
And even if all of them, even if all of them line up and say we oppose this guy, are they going to be able to get enough Republicans to help them filibuster them?
I think that's where their conundrum is.
One of the arms of their conundrum.
Most Democrats are certain that Roberts is significantly more conservative than Sandra Day O'Connor, but they wonder whether that alone can justify a full-fledged fight against him, let alone a filibuster.
Many Democrats are frustrated over the difficulty of establishing exactly what kind of conservative Roberts is, or in the case of liberal groups firmly opposed to his nomination, of proving that Roberts is still the conservative ideologue who emerges from his memos as a young Reagan administration official on matters such as civil rights, disability rights, and the right to privacy.
Now here we're back to this same old thing that I've been talking to you about recently, this this arrogant superiority, the difficulty of establishing exactly what kind of conservative Roberts is.
Maybe he's not a racist and not a sexist, but he could be a bigot and a homophobe.
Maybe he's not a bigot or homophobe, maybe he's a racist in a sexist, and we know he's got confederate sympathies because he won a what he wrote about civil war.
And we know that he didn't grow up around any blacks or Jews, Jews in his neighborhood.
This is just this is the thing that irks me.
This this arrogance, this sense of dominance, this sense of liberals and liberalism as a given, and conservatives and conservatism as almost a crime.
Or at least something about which to be suspicious, or of which to be suspicious.
Well, you know, we know he's a conservative, therefore we know he's guilty.
And we just don't know of what.
And, you know, it's it's it's something that's taking them down the tubes in a quicksand pretty quickly.
Roberts would not only immediately shift the balance on the court, writes Mr. Dion Jr., he's also a potential nominee for chief justice, a post in which his political skills could allow him in tandem with another Bush appointee to create a powerful conservative court majority for a generation.
How come nobody worries about a powerful liberal court majority for a generation?
Notice how that's just, well, that would be assumed to be natural.
Well, that'd be that'd be fine.
That'd be good.
Conservative majority, why?
Why, that'd be letting those people in.
We can't have those people running the show.
Why?
What are they going to do?
They're going to set us back.
They're going to stop our progress and so forth.
Democrats and here's here's here down deep in the column.
Here's the real crux of the conundrum.
Democrats are also under pressure from their liberal allies to challenge Roberts by way of clarifying what they stand for.
One of the worst consequences politically would be for the majority of Democrats to vote for someone who in the near future would overturn well-established precedents on clean air, clean water, privacy, equal opportunity, and religious liberty.
That is this that's Ralph Nees, and that's just the biggest bunch of well-established precedents on clean air, clean, as though conservatives want everybody breathing dirty air and drinking dirty water, and don't want anybody to have any privacy, and don't want anybody to have opportunity whatsoever.
When in fact, if you if you study it, who is it that stands in the way of equality?
It's liberals.
Try being a conservative around a liberal and find out how much equality you have.
Try being a conservative student in a liberal classroom, find out how much equality you have.
Try being a conservative on any college campus or in many cities and just try speaking your mind and see how much freedom you've got.
And then take a look at the equality and the tolerance that they claim that they possess, own, and represent.
And talk about religious liberty?
Who is it that's trying to shut that down?
You flash a cross at them, and you may be showing Dracula the cross.
You put a nativity scene up in the middle of town.
Who is it that shows up as a you can't have that and tries to tear it down?
It's not the conservatives of this country that do anything like that.
It's the left with its political correctness.
And it's again air of supremacy and arrogance.
Only what they approve of will be considered normal and allowed.
So, but the bottom line is the Democrats are scared of their own kooks.
And Helen Thomas, by the way, to change something.
Helen Thomas, that ding bat, former White House correspondent for the um UPI, now has a column out saying if the if if Democratic presidential candidates don't come out against the war and embrace Cindy Sheehan, they are going to lose big and deserve to lose.
So here you've got E.J. Dion Jr. wondering, oh gosh, if the if the if the Democrats and the Judiciary Committee don't listen to the kooks, the Ralph Neeses and all these other groups out there, ACLU people for the American Way, whoever they are, they're gonna be held to pay.
And that's I this is the story to me, as I've been saying for a longest time.
The story to me is the fracture of the Democrat Party.
And who's gonna end up running it?
And you just will not find Democratic candidates who want to advance nationally and win elections anywhere near their base, other than at fundraising time.
Quick timeout, we'll be back after this.
Stay with us.
Stay with us.
Yesterday, as I say, Senator Leahy of Vermont had his second meeting with Supreme Court nominee John Roberts, said he gave Roberts a copy of the so-called Bibe memo during the meeting.
It was the second meeting, and uh this was the case, then Assistant Attorney General Jay Bibe argued in a January 22nd, 2002 memo that the president has the power to issue orders that violate the Geneva Convention, as well as international and U.S. laws prohibiting torture.
So Patrick Leahy says he is going to ask John Roberts about torture.
It will be raised partly on the quote to the question of uh to what area, if any, can a president be considered to be above the law?
And I thought if he's going to be asked questions on that, you can answer one of two different ways.
You can answer specifically to the question, or you can answer by saying, Well, I haven't seen the Bibee memo.
So I thought I'd give him the Bible memo.
Oh, yeah, here that so I thought I I thought I'd trick him.
I thought I'd trick him in advance.
I give him the Bibee memo so he can't weasel out of the answer to the question.
So you see where this is going.
What area, if any, can a president be considered to be above the law?
There is an implication that President Bush has been above the law, and they're going to ask Roberts, are you going to tell us he was you think he was above the law?
And and of course, they're hoping that Roberts will say, because he wants the job so bad, I can see where some might think that this was above the law.
The headline the next day, Robert says Bush above law.
Uh and I wouldn't, I wouldn't put it past Leahy.
I d folks, I just want to tell you here, and this is a long shot, but I just want to get it out there and get it on record.
Do not be surprised if the Democrats try to disqualify Roberts on the basis that he has committed perjury.
Don't be surprised if they try to ask him questions that are so off the wall and confusing, and one question one day by one senator, another question the next day by another senator on the same subject.
Just don't be surprised.
I'm not predicting it.
But I'm not going to be surprised if it happens.
Now, last night, Leahy went on the PBS news hour with Jim O'Lara, and uh Gwen Eiffel was uh doing the questioning.
And she said to Senator Leahy, now when you think about the things that you know that he has written and the things that you don't know about what the White House has not been willing to release, do you think that somebody's trying to hide anything here?
I worry about the things that suddenly get lost by the White House, and maybe they'll turn up.
Maybe they won't.
I'm not I'm not willing to just accept what they say about them.
I want to see what they say.
But I think they do Judge Roberts a disservice by holding things back, especially those areas that reflect what his judgment of what the law should be, not just what the law is, but what the law should be.
You know, this never happens when a liberal judge is nominated.
There's never this hand rigging the left uh gets this Scott Free away with the right.
Never.
And and and the and the reason is that the Democrats come at this as though we've got a suspect here.
We got a potential criminal that has been nominated for the Supreme Court.
We got to find out his guilt.
We have to discover his guilt before it's too late.
And what's his guilt?
The way he thinks.
What's his crime the way he thinks?
His crime is what he's written.
And somebody is trying to conceal that crime from us.
That's what Leahy is saying.
But we're going to dig deep and we're going to find this crime because we know there's been a crime committed.
And why?
Because he's a conservative.
That's why he's a suspect.
So this is what they're setting up torture.
Leahy did say yesterday that he's not going to ask Roberts to comment on one case that might come before him.
He says, I I if a litigant comes before the court, no matter what my color and so forth, you know, if if I make the right argument, a strong enough argument, I can be heard.
I can't be heard.
I don't have a chance if if a judge has already said how he's going to rule in a case.
I don't think any judge ought to have to answer that.
That's Leahy.
Other Democrats will take care of that for it.
He's going to go after torture.
All right.
So Senator Patrick Leahy wants to ask Judge Roberts, when can the President be above the law?
We already know the answer to the question.
If I were Judge Roberts, I would say, well, Senator Clinton has shown that it or President Clinton's shown it's possible.
Bill Clinton has definitely shown it's possible for presidents to be above the law, and then watch the firework.
They need to maybe bring in a defibrillator for Senator Kennedy right there in the hearing room.
Either that or a bottle of scotch.
Here's Senator Leahy one more time with Gwen Ifill on the NewsHour with Jim Lara.
She said, Well, when you said that when you said that John Roberts uh that you had concerns about his stand on civil rights, what particularly are you talking about?
Well, I I I want to understand that he really cares about uh permanent action that uh cares about equality.
I want to make sure he understands there's a lot of discrimination in the United States today.
We have laws that try to redress that.
And is he going to be open to the application of those laws?
Uh Leah, he's already announced he's against Roberts, right?
He's already seen he he he hasn't.
I thought he said he was going to vote against him anyway.
I thought he had.
Well, anyway, who cares what what what Leahy says?
I mean, he's from a white Christian state, Vermont.
He doesn't represent the American people.
You know, he claims to have all this concern with civil rights, and Roberts grew up in Long Beach, Indiana, and there weren't any blacks or Jews.
Jews in his neighborhood.
Well, where's Leahy from?
He's from Vermont.
How many miles do you have to drive to find an African American in Vermont?
Probably quite a few.
And on which road.
I mean, this is that it it but no, the whole thing is condescending anyway.
That yeah, the arrogance and condescension.
Well, you know, I I uh I want to say he really cares about affirmative action if he cares about equality.
I wanted to make sure he understands there's a lot of discrimination.
Like he's some 18-year-old kid, you know, that's come out of the average American public school.
This guy, Roberts could run rings about Patrick Leahy intellectually in every other which way.
He has to sit there and you watch, and you have to sit there and act subservient and all this sort of stuff.
Do what it takes to uh to get the nomination.
Here's uh here's Robert in Pensacola, Florida.
I'm glad you waited, Robert.
Welcome to the program.
Hey, Rush, Megadiddos, uh from uh displaced uh speech enthusiasts from New Orleans.
Uh you you are you are a refugee from New Orleans and you made it to Pensacola.
Yeah, well, we we evacuated up to Birmingham where we voted out, and then uh we learned that we lost everything and we can't get home.
So we said, why not go to Orlando?
Go to Disney World.
So we got the clothes on our backs, uh, a couple changes of clothes in the back, and my kid, and we're headed to uh Orlando.
Go see Mickey Mouse.
Are you uh are you in the car now?
Yes, sir.
You're driving or now.
Oh, yeah, we're on 75, headed down, so got a couple more hours left, and we'll be in Orlando and just wait.
How are your kids?
How old are your kids, by the way, and how are they doing?
Well, I have a six-year-old, a ten-year-old, and a nine-year-old.
And they're fine.
They're excited that uh we're getting a chance to go to Orlando.
Have you seen any of the pictures from New Orleans?
Uh, just last night, Rush.
We woke up this morning about six o'clock and learned that uh second levy broke, and uh at that point we said, Well, we're not even gonna turn around and go home because we know that there's nothing there.
What do you do for a living?
Uh I'm a business manager, and so is my wife.
Uh and so tell me we don't have jobs to go back to right now, so you know, I I have you know, I live in a hurricane zone too, and I've I've thought about every time one heads our way, uh I start thinking about the what ifs.
And now that it's happened to you, uh what what I know you're doing a great thing by going to Disneyland and and and you're trying to uh make the best of this, and and I applaud that we all understand, especially for your kids.
But what are you thinking about that you have to do?
I mean, you've got you've you uh where where do you start?
What do you what what what I don't want to lead you anywhere by giving you a lot of people?
You know, it's kind of funny because me and my wife are both concerned about the same thing, uh, and that's about um our employees more than anything else.
Uh Everything else is replaceable.
However, some of our employees weren't able to evacuate.
Um so our concern is for them, and we're not able to speak with anybody in New Orleans.
So it's been uh quite an emotional roller coaster, not for our personal belongings because all of that stuff is replaceable, but more for the people who work for us.
Uh where was your place of business?
Uh on Poitres, downtown in New Orleans, and my wife's uh is actually in the French quarter.
Well, you know, the French quarter, everybody is sort of surprised.
The French quarter got uh I fared the best, if I can uh draw a distinction.
Uh people are surprised.
Right.
So far, anyway, the French quarter's fared the best, not that it's a panacea in there, but everybody thought the French quarter be one of the first places to go, and it's uh it hasn't gone yet.
You know, everything um i not not to go all religious on your rush, but they showed some pictures of uh church that had a uh that was surrounded with oak trees and all the oak trees that got pulled up and fell down all around the statue of uh Jesus with his arms outstretched.
Uh and the statue wasn't touched, but everything around the statue was.
Um there's a you know, there's a reason for everything.
Uh you uh you hey, you don't need to apologize for go in religious on this show.
Uh but uh you know, I've been listening and actually Rush, I've been watching you on TV since I was in college, and then I listen to you just about every day on a radio on uh 870 AM, and we were just now on the road and coming down the street and uh I was flipping through channels and there you were and uh like a first f first sense of normalcy I've had.
Uh smiled all day first time I've smiled all day when I found your radio station, so well I I uh I appreciate that.
I uh anything that helps I guess is uh is good.
But you know, I I I really empathize with your situation.
I have some friends who um live across the lake.
Uh I've talked about them on this program, the fish god.
Uh right, Al.
Yeah, the Steve and Kathy Abernathy, and I I met them way back in nineteen eighty-eight or eighty-nine, and I've I've stayed friends with them and and the fish god raises tilapia.
He's got a tilapia farm across the lake and uh across Lake Poncha train.
And I sent them an email uh over the weekend uh check on them, and I hadn't heard back from them, and I said uh I hope you're on making plans to get out of there.
And and I finally got an email back from them today.
They were in uh Washington, they'd taken a vacation to Washington, and it was the first time Steve had been there and he was just overwhelmed with it all, seeing all the historical monuments and so forth.
But they wrote back and they said that uh they they're probably out of business, uh their employees are okay, but their cars at the airport and it's underwater, so it's totaled.
Uh but they have the same attitude you do, that they're alive and and that their uh their kids don't live with them and they're their kids are if in their parts of the country they're okay and their employees are okay.
Um and so they're they're just eager to do get back and see what they have to do to start all over.
But uh, you know, people I I think people like you in this situation uh are able to face the gravity and reality of it a little bit easier than those of us who are not in it, who are imagining ourselves to be in it because people who are imagining this like looking at these pictures and imagining ourselves to be in this way, what would we think?
We ask ourselves what will we do, and it's probably nothing close to what would be we would actually be doing if it if it had actually happened to us.
And that's why you're you're I I I I truly believe that I was gonna ride it out, Rush.
Uh I was one of those uh people who had means to get out, but was just stubborn and and thought I was in a in the right mi frame of mind for a good fight, and my wife um actually saved my life because uh she she convinced me that that look, you know, we we have to go.
Um so it's the right frame of mind, you know, uh it could just be just the smallest little thing.
You know, to change your mind.
You have any friends in the Orlando area.
Uh my my wife has family and Lake Wales, so it's kind of where we're headed to.
All right.
So you've you've got assistance there.
Yes, sir.
And you you have uh you left with uh you take your credit cards if you got uh you got ability to uh got got my credit cards, got my laptop, uh like I said, a couple changes to clothes and my VM think of this out your own now.
What w is your bank destroyed?
You know, stop and think of this.
I mean, you we're looking at the destruction.
Your bank is probably gone or damaged or something.
You're gonna have to go through uh process with the bank of establishing that what you had with them is there.
Uh you know, never you hope their records are backed up somewhere off-site.
I mean, it it it can be overwhelming if you stop to think of all those little bitty details of minutiae.
Uh and of course, now you you've got your credit cards with you, but at some point they're gonna send you a bill, but your bill can't be delivered.
Well, but that's why we have insurance, Rush.
Um, you know, and that's that's the whole thing.
You know, you have insurance for these kind of problems, saving all my receipts, and uh we'll give them to the insurance agent when it's all said and done, and they'll take care of them.
Well, I I'm I'm thrilled that you called.
I'm I'm uh glad you all made it out of there, and I hope you get in touch with some of your employees soon so you can find out uh their uh their fate.
And by all means, um uh uh let your kids have a ball at Disneyland or Disneyland.
Uh they will, thank you, Rosh.
Like I I just want to tell you again, thank you for being on.
I think you're a credit, and I'm sorry that that Bush caused this hurricane.
He was probably over in Africa waving it, waiting around in the water.
And it started a little ripple that sent the wave to us.
So it is indeed his fault.
Well, you know, laughter's the best medicine, and sometimes that's all you can do.
Uh Robert, thanks so much.
That's Robert uh on his way to Orlando.
He's in Pensacola driving from Birmingham after escaping uh New Orleans.
We'll be back after this.
Stay with us.
I want to listen to this soundbite uh from Senator Leahy again and and and make a point that I should have made when I first heard it.
Uh this is from uh PBS News Hour, Jim Lara with Gwen Eiffel doing the questioning last night, asking him about uh what concerns he has with Roberts on civil rights.
Well, I I I want to understand that he really cares about uh permanent action.
Cares about equality.
Stop the tape.
Right there is a major flaw.
Affirmative action is not equality.
Affirm I know it isn't, folks.
Don't sit out there and shout at your radios at me.
Affirmative action is not equality.
Affirmative action penalizes somebody on the basis of their skin color, mostly for actions they have never taken, and elevate somebody else because of their skin color.
There's nothing there's there's nothing equal about affirmative action, no matter who's talking about it.
And and the uh the well, well, but we've got to redress past grievances, right?
Well, okay, when are you gonna draw the line and say past grievances have been addressed and everything's been equalized?
Now we do away with it.
Well, we're never gonna do away with it.
Why not?
Well, because we're not, because it's a political issue for us.
Of course it is.
Affirmative action has nothing to do with equality.
This is what John Roberts understands, and that and at lay he doesn't.
Now, Mr. Snerdley, this this next this story here, this is why I have been convinced that Robert said he's gonna vote against or uh Leahy says he's gonna vote against Roberts.
This is this um story from the Associated Press on uh on July 27th, and this is shortly after Roberts was nominated.
Top judiciary committee of Democrat Patrick Leahy of Vermont said that he will vote against Supreme Court judge nominee John Roberts if the judge seems likely to pursue an activist philosophy.
Denouncing conservatives on the current court, Leahy said they've struck down parts of the violence against women act, environmental acts, child safety legislation.
They've knocked all these down, basically writing the law themselves.
I want to find out if he's gonna be active as this as people like Scalia and Thomas who have almost willy-nilly overruled things.
Well, I mean, if he if he's like Scalia and Thomas, uh he is the he's gonna vote against him.
That's what he said.
So that's why that's why I thought he was on record as saying it.
Bob in uh Big Cypress, Florida.
Welcome to the program.
Thank you.
Megadiddles rush.
Thank you.
Where was uh where was Senator Leakey's outrage at the missing S FBI files that turned up in the Clinton White House in their library?
No, no, those are the Rose Law Firm billing records.
The uh FBI files still are in somebody's possession.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, we don't know.
We don't know.
Yeah, we don't know where those.
Of course.
That's a well, he's gonna ask Roberts if a president ought to be above the law, and I think just for the fun of it, the answer should be well, President Clinton's demonstrated it's possible with the right support in Congress, Senator.
God, wouldn't I pay for that?
Folks, I would pay for that answer.
Uh Mary in Minneapolis, welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Thanks a lot for taking my call.
I'm really from Vero Beach.
I'm up here vacationing, but I live through Hurricane Francis and Hurricane Gene in 204.
And I had over a hundred thousand dollars in damage.
The worst part for the people here is that are going to be rebuilding is that they won't be able to get labor.
They won't be able to get construction materials.
I waited a long time just to get sheetrock.
I don't I still don't have tiles on my roof.
I'm it's a year later and I don't have tiles.
And there has to be something done for the the victims of these hurricanes to rebuild.
And I think the one thing they need to think about doing is stopping uh new construction so that we can get our materials and our labor to do to help us.
Interesting point.
I didn't uh uh I wasn't aware that that that kind of delay had been going on up in Vero Beach.
Is it is it strictly a labor and materials problem?
That's what they tell me.
They can't well it's no material problem.
That the tile, I have those clay tiles.
And a lot of a lot of houses have got them, some don't.
But I they took my tile up, removed my roof last November.
And I still I have this poly stick on there.
I am now out dried, but I've had several leaks in the interim.
But getting the tile has been a major horror.
Well, have you have have you run into any permit problems or code problems?
Are there any new?
I got my permit.
I had the polystick, the roof put on, and then they came, it failed the inspection because it wasn't you know that half the time the labor, they brought other labors in that are on skilled workers.
And this is gonna be horrible for Robert, all these other people.
I feel so sad for what's happened to them.
Knowing once they dry up the water, once they get their power back, then they're gonna run into all of this stuff getting materials, and a lot of this material is going to new construction, new development.
Well, I think I y you know, I under I hear what you're saying, and it is a valid point, but from the pictures that I'm seeing, 90% of the construction is gonna be new.
Well, there's nothing, there's nothing to to to rebuild or repair down there in a lot of it.
It's gonna have to be whatever's left standing is gonna have to be bulldozed, they're gonna be starting from scratch.
But there should be priorities put in place for victims of natural disasters like this.
And this is something that has not happened in the state of Florida.
Because we I mean we got hit with we had two in three weeks apart in Virro Beach.
I know.
I uh believe me, I I was thirty thirty miles south of you.
Um we didn't have the damage down here that you did.
You know the statistical odds of two hurricanes in three weeks hitting the same spot on the globe.
Uh the odds of that are better than you winning a lottery once in a hundred years.
And yet it happened.
Anyway, I gotta go because of time, Mary.
Thanks for the call.
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