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Aug. 26, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 26, 2005, Friday, Hour #2
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And we're back, folks.
We got lots to do here still ahead on the EIB network.
Rush Limb Boy, it's Friday.
Let's go.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
Telephone number 800 282-2882.
Question, comment, you want to talk about it, you feel free to give it a shot.
Once again, 800-282-2882, the email address rush at EIB net.com.
Uh look, repeat something I said uh one hour ago when the program started.
I fully intended to not say another word about the circus down in Crawford, Texas, and Cindy Sheehan and so forth, but I I'm gonna have to I'm to violate my own intention, but I'm I'm not I'm not gonna lead the show with them.
I gotta lead this hour with it, but it's pretty it it it's it's pretty interesting.
I think it's it's somewhat important, and I have a lot more to say about what I have learned.
What I have learned is who actually is behind this, who actually she's raising money for, and why she's saying some of the things that she's saying.
Uh and I'll I'm gonna get to this later on in the program because I'm sick and tired of talking about this already.
I'm sick and tired of leading the program off with it, so I want to do these other things, and we'll get to it in due course.
And I'm not trying to tease you with it.
I'm just I'm just being just being honest.
I found the uh oh, I'm getting emails of how'd you do during the hurricane.
We lucked out here uh where we happen to be in Palm Beach County.
We're in the uh, you know, we're on the ocean, and we're in the northern uh northern quadrant of the county.
You know, you go down to Boynton Beach, uh, which what 15 miles from here or something?
They got they got it hard.
Uh not nearly as hard as Miami and uh and and south of Miami Beach got it.
But I mean it was basically firing planks up here.
It stopped raining at four o'clock yesterday afternoon.
There wasn't another drop of rain, maybe 4 30.
Total rain was an inch, inch and a half.
The top wind gusts were uh 45 miles an hour, 40 miles an hour.
Somebody got on a beach.
The winds kept up last night to about 36 mile an hour gusts.
But I mean I've seen more powerful thunderstorms go through here.
Uh there was no structural damage of any kind, just some uh little small leaves and tree limbs that uh had had uh blown in uh yards and on the street.
Well, you go down to um you go down to the Miami Dade Broward line and and uh south of it, particularly south of Miami, not actually not that far from uh from Homestead, those people got you've seen the uh video.
There was there was a knee-deep water in the streets, boats in the streets, airplanes turned over, lots of flooding, uh some structural damage in uh in certain places, and it was just a little category one storm.
It's it's it's stunning how powerful even a category one is.
But this thing did something that they wouldn't predict in a hundred years.
And a lot of people, I'm sure as this as the day went on yesterday, the people that got hit really hard, I'm sure probably once what once a hurricane goes north of you, that's when you give the big sigh of relief.
Once the eye passes north of you, that's when you go, okay, we're out of the woods.
Well, this thing, it hit it was headed due east of as it was forecast, and right before the eye.
And by the way, the the the they say that landfall is when the center of the eye crosses landfall, not the western, in this case, western eyewall, but the center of the eye.
That's when it crosses land.
That didn't happen until 6 30 last night.
Some people were reporting landfall at five, but it wasn't.
Right before it took it it hit landfall, this thing took a southwesterly dip that nobody would ever forecast.
These things just don't do that.
And so that's why everybody got sort of caught up uh or caught short with this, because uh it it it just now everybody knew there was a high pressure ridge that was gonna keep it from going north.
Uh, and that's what was pushing it due west, but but to take a southwestern plunge like that, uh I don't think I don't think weather forecasters would predict that one out of a hundred times.
Uh so a lot of people were were caught by surprise last night by this thing, and it was bad.
But we um basically it was kind of pretty out there.
The sea was roiling.
It was just beautiful to look at.
Uh once it stopped raining, I went out there and and uh and and looked at it all and uh it was just it was just uh you know it's amazing.
I mean, no two days are ever the same when you live on the ocean and they're all beautiful.
I don't care what happens.
Turtle, well, the turtles up here were spared, yes.
The turtles south of here, the turtleness could have had uh deep doo-doo, but I don't know how many turtle nests there are south of here because once you get south there, the beaches are condos and and uh thing.
But I'm sure there are some nests that uh the uh had some havoc wreaked with them.
But the but uh the the uh the turtleness outside my compound great shape.
Nothing uh nothing happened to him whatsoever.
Got a call last hour about Lance Armstrong.
What do I think of Lance Armstrong and the this whole doping accusation?
I don't want to repeat the answer there, but I mentioned that a friend of mine, sports writer, columnist for the New York Post, Phil Mushnick recently wrote a great piece.
Um and I attempted to paraphrase it.
It's from August 5th.
We found it on Nexus.
And I I just I want to read it to you.
Because he's got this theory that we are that sports media is destroying young athletes, that sports media is contributing to the fact that many of them become less than stellar citizens, shall we say, because they develop a sense of entitlement and a sense of uh uh security that they'll never get caught or punished for doing anything because they they are placed on such a high pedestal by everybody, fans, media, and so forth.
Here's how he wrote it.
It's too easy to blame the media for everything, but that's the media's fault, too.
Look at the big stories daily slithering out of NFL training camps, the same old stories, the same old new age garbage, it's the same old junk that the media first sells and then condemns and then sells some more.
What did Terrell Owens do and or say today?
As if anyone with even a modicum of self-esteem uh should by now care what Terrell Owen says or thinks.
How about this agent, Drew H. Drew Rosenhaus?
Did he do any fresh chest pounding or did the network have to resort to day-old footage of the agent?
Randy Moss is bragging on himself again.
He's so good, the Vikings, after years of kissing his fanny could no longer indulge him.
But all it takes is a few self-smitten words from this creep, and he becomes a lead story again.
And he's got a new Hummer that cost more than most readers and viewers make in three years.
Cool.
Ricky Williams seems willing to give football another shot.
How nice.
Although hemp futures must be down.
And Jeremy Shockey, always a threat to turn an eight-yard catch into a 15-yard misconduct penalty, has a new tattoo.
Aren't selfish people neat?
And then we'll ask from where these athletes got their inflated sense of entitlement.
The media ensure that such folks don't live on the same planet as the rest of us, and then wonder where on earth they got it from.
The sports media now specialize in abandoning common sense.
And then after it's too late, the same media demand to know whatever happened to common sense.
Then it's back to work, pumping up all the worst acts in sports while breathing inspiration into new ones.
Manny Maria uh Ramirez of the Boston Red Sox last week said, I'm here to win, I'm here to help this team win in 2005.
That, nationally reported by the Associated Press was that.
But Ramirez's claim was preposterous.
He's another star who insists he only cares about winning, but isn't much for running to first base.
It's sort of like Mayor Bloomberg and the New York City School's Chancellor Joel Klein decrying the epidemic of murderous young street gangs.
Yet they happily pose for photos with P. Diddy, the gangster rap impresario and gang culture promoter profiteer whose friends, associates, and competitors have a nasty habit of winding up in prison if they're not shot dead.
But making heroes out of people who keep taking us lower would not be possible if common sense, when applied by the media, were not always applied after it's far too late.
And that's that.
And I think I think it's it's right on the money.
I wrote him a little note.
I said, Bravo.
This is uh this this is so well said that I wish I'd written it myself.
And if you weren't so prominent, I might think about plagiarizing.
We'll be back after this.
Don't go away.
I must make a correction, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Mr. Snerdley informed me that P. Diddy has changed his name again.
It's now just Diddy.
And I said, that's fine with me.
Snurdley said, well, nobody knew what the P was for.
And I said, I haven't figured out what the Diddy is.
Myself.
Forgot to mention this in the opening of this hour.
I uh we had this call on Lance Armstrong and uh the doping controversy.
I won wanted to know what I thought about it.
And I I had time to do some research at the top of the Hour, uh, ladies and gentlemen, and I found out what this is all about.
The French found two suspicious, questionable substances in his hotel room uh from 1999.
They were later identified as soap and deodorant.
Uh here's Mark in Rockport, Illinois.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Yeah, Russ, how's it going today?
Big fan of the world.
Never better, never better, couldn't be better.
Thanks for the call.
Love the fact you're out there.
Good.
I wanted to take this opportunity on open line Friday.
Uh I know it's a week or so ago, uh, regarding uh Terrell Owen, Donovan McNabb feud, uh, collar called in and was saying uh how uh Keo is just a punk and a thug and one step uh above an NBA thug and that.
And I remember your comments were uh you you told the caller that, well, he's one of God's kids, and he's not a thug, and you shouldn't speak to him that way.
And I just wanted to compare that.
I mean, I listen to you every day, and I hear you kind of say somewhat of the same.
I know you don't say thug or punk, but the way you talk about Bill Clinton and some of these other big Democrats, it's kind of the same thing you're saying, just in bigger terms.
Uh and so what's the question?
So what's the question?
How do you justify telling that guy tell not to call Donovan or uh excuse me, Terrell Owens a thug and a punk when you do it on a daily basis?
Uh okay, thanks for the question.
I don't justify it.
I will explain it.
I don't have to justify it.
I will explain it.
The context of the Terrell Owens and McNabb offer was I was offering to get these two great Americans back together, these two great athletes back together for the sake of the Eagles, the NF NFC East and the National Football League.
And a guy called and said, Why are you wasting your time?
Owens is just a punk.
I said he's a child of God.
He can be reasoned with.
Now I'm attempting to forge a relationship with these two guys so that I can bring them back together.
It will serve no purpose for me to agree that Owens is a in fact.
I think I ended up at the at even in the conversation acknowledging that the guy had a point, but I can even work around this.
But as to Bill Clinton, I will take this seriously.
Bill Clinton or any other Democrat, everything said here is in reaction to their policies, their ideology, or using cigars and other elements for oral sex in the oval office or other such things.
Uh well calling people names like punks and so forth doesn't happen here.
Don't even call them scum like you will hear in other places.
I simply respond to them on an issue by issue basis, and I do have characterizations for them, but it's not personal like this guy was reviewing.
This guy was saying Owens is a punk because he's a punk or what have you.
I didn't think that was useful at the time.
Uh I I just I I do believe that most of the criticism that you will hear of these Democrats is always oriented and with a political point to make.
Now I have called, yes, I I have called Terry McCaula the punk.
He's a bully.
He's a bully, he's a punk bully.
But that's based on the way his attitude is on television and the way he deals with people.
Uh so I have spread it around.
Uh, and I and I and I have been fair and equal uh in my in my treatment and description of uh of punks.
It's what I love about open line Friday.
You j you just never know uh what you're what you're going to get.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, last hour we had this story for you that the in the Washington Post, and I I I I've still got it here.
I kept it in the stack.
It is unbelievable.
It is it is one of the most hilarious thing I've ever read because they do this seriously.
In article, Robert's pen appeared to dip south.
They talked about how in one of his memos way back, one of his one of his scholarly writings, he had referred to the war, civil war as the civil war, and then crossed that out and replaced civil war with the war between the states.
The Washington Post went and found some expert, Sam McZavini, uh, who is a history professor at Vanderbilt University who specialized in the civil war, and they asked this guy about Robert's choice of words and whether or not it was significant.
This guy said, well, many people who are sympathetic to the Confederate position are more comfortable with the idea of a war between the states.
People who opposed the civil rights movement of the 60s and 70s would undoubtedly be more comfortable with the words Roberts chose.
So this is a serious attempt to say that John Roberts is a racist, that he actually loves slavery.
He would own slaves if he could.
This is the attempt that this it is just hilarious.
And this is the second effort.
What was it, two weeks ago they had we know this, could by the way, uh, this is going to backfire in a post because it's going to get Robert Byrd's vote like that the minute he hears about this story.
But it was two or three weeks ago that we had this story in the post about how he grew up in Long Beach, Indiana, in an all-white neighborhood with no blacks and no Jews.
Jews.
And he never saw suffering, and he never saw hardship.
And he never had it tough in life until we want something like this on the court.
Now this.
That's not the only story in the Washington Post today.
How long ago was it?
It was just two or three weeks ago that the LA Times ran this piece about how sympathetic to gays and gay activists John Roberts was when he was a member of his law firm, Hogan and Hartson doing pro bono work, trying to draw a wedge, drive a wedge between conservatives, trying to make conservatives not support the guy because LA Times thinks that all conservatives don't like homosexuals.
Now here comes the Washington Post.
Gay rights groups urge defeat of nominee.
We had the story yesterday.
All these gay rights groups that have come out in opposition to John Roberts.
Jim Vanden Hay, the Washington Post writing about it today, leading gay rights groups yesterday dismissed as inconsequential.
Judge John G. Roberts Jr.'s pro bono work on a gay rights case in the 90s and came out in strong opposition to his nomination to the Supreme Court.
Matt Foreman, executive director, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force said, for his entire adult life, John Roberts has been a disciple of and promoted a political and legal ideology that is antithetical to an America that embraces all, including lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people, including those who have had aadictimy surgery in San Francisco.
We are mindful that Judge Roberts provided a few hours of pro bono help to the attorneys in Romer v.
Evans, a landmark case for our community.
Some have said that this uh his work, which consisted mostly of playing the role of a conservative justice, demonstrates that Roberts is not personally anti-gay.
This theory is not relevant to the important issue for our community, and that is how Roberts would vote as a Supreme Court justice.
The human rights campaign president Joe Soloma uh Salmonis said, ultimately, this is about an individual's right to privacy, from women's rights to religious freedom to civil rights.
There is powerful evidence that Judge Roberts would rule against equality.
So just two weeks ago he was pro-gay.
Just two weeks ago he was doing some of the greatest work ever.
Pro bono work, helping out in Romer versus Evans, helping helping them further along the whole concept of uh of gay marriage and a number of other things, and yet yesterday the gay groups lined up in unison and now come out against it.
A question, yes, Mr. Snerdley, you have a question.
I don't know how you rule against the quality, just what they say.
These are just pet phrases.
This is just the template.
I there's you don't rule against equality.
He's not this is that's that's just what they say to try to get people all stirred up and drummed up and concerned.
He is not voted against equality.
In fact, just the op in this case, he was oriented towards equality.
And they just throw it out.
It doesn't count.
What does this mean?
The larger question here is what does this mean?
I don't know why John Judge look let's just assume for a second, and I don't know that this is true.
It's a total assumption.
Let's assume Judge Roberts wanted to be a Supreme Court justice, knew that he was going to be facing these questions down the road, took that pro bono case to have on record that he was sympathetic to gaze.
Look at what it got him.
The point is, you cannot reach out and be nice to these people, and you cannot reach out in a political sense, because that's you it will not get you anywhere.
This is uh at at the at the very least, it's ingratitude, and at the worst it's defamatory and lies about Judge Roberts and his character.
But they're throwing everything they got at him.
Well, that's what we do here, folks.
We make the complex understandable.
A change in plans here, Mike.
You have audio soundbite 17.
Yes, I see it just now being handed to you.
All right, folks get this.
Bridget Bardot's back in the news.
Uh, You know, she the big sex pot from the 50s and the uh and the 60s.
She's turned into big animal rights wacko.
And she has called on the French government to halt the reported use by fishermen on the island of reunion of live puppies and kittens as shark bait.
She said it's imperative that the government does something to end this practice.
We can no longer use kittens and puppies as shark bait.
Now I didn't know this was being done.
The last the last I heard, uh, black people were being used as shark bait.
What about the 200 million people who were lost in the Atlantic crossing?
Very conservative estimates say that the slave trade, just the crossing of the Atlantic, bringing the slaves across, there were 200 million people who died just coming across.
So great was the number of people who were thrown overboard that it altered the ecology of the ocean.
The sharks, even now, trace uh follow after ships along the trail, seeking the flesh that was thrown overboard in all those years, 200 years of the slave trade.
That was Major Owen, February 23rd, 1995 special orders, House of Representatives complaining that 200 million people were lost in the slave trade from uh Europe and Africa to the United States because slave owners would throw the slaves overboard and it and the sharks uh he said in fact he went on the next bite and the the the sharks still swim the route uh hoping that that more slaves will be thrown overboard.
So we're making progress, folks.
No longer are we throwing slaves overboard for the sharks.
The French are using uh puppies and uh and uh kittens.
Uh uh don't know that Judge Roberts has written anything about this.
Uh but uh no doubt if he has uh it'll be found.
No, no, no doubt if he hasn't written about it, it will be found.
Uh nevertheless.
Brett in Portland, I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Yeah, Rosh Mega Air Force RDC didn't from the University of Portland.
Great to talk to you.
Thank you, sir.
Hey, um, Colin, um, I uh I just received one of your uh t-shirts as a birthday present, one of your club gitmo t-shirts.
Congratulations out there.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
I'm very excited to wear it.
Um however, uh it it being uh being at the University of Portland, I'm bound to catch a whole lot of flack for wearing it, and so I just want to go uh calling it your um your expert opinion.
What should I how should I respond to these attacks that I'm probably gonna be getting from the liberals?
Well, well, well, f first things first.
I want to I want to applaud you for having the courage to put on your club gitmo t-shirt and actually go to the campus.
Well, thank you, sir.
University of Portland campus.
You deserve great credit.
Uh we in fact we we just a flash of the pan idea here.
We we we might need one to create club gitmo medals for bravery.
Uh for for people like you who are willing to don the club gitmo gear and uh and take it into hostile environments.
You know, we had this survey earlier, Bill that we reported from Investors Business Daily that the most optimistic news consumers in the country today are talk radio listeners.
And the most n negative, depressed, and pessimistic read newspapers and the news magazines.
And uh I it it made me think, you know, one of the things you could do, you have a computer, you have access to a computer.
Yes, I do.
All right.
Uh are you are you a uh anybody you know, or are you a member of my uh website?
I know I'm not a member of your website.
Okay, well, I'm gonna make you a complimentary one-year subscriber to Rush Limbaugh.com so that so you'll be able to see what I want you to see here.
I want you to hold on after the call's over so we can get the information from you necessary to make that happen, okay?
Okay.
So don't hang up.
But we've got a whole club gitmo photo gallery up there, Bill, and you can go look at the picture or Brett, I'm sorry, and you can look at the pictures, and many of the pictures that people have sent us wearing their club gitmo gear is in the middle of battle.
There are club gitmo gear wearers at Cindy Sheehan's little circus in Crawford.
There are people wearing club gitmo gear at the uh at this this stupid protest outside Walter Reed Army Hospital where leftists are taunting wounded soldiers who are recovering.
There are, and they're from Free Republic.com, the Freepers are out there.
Uh we have had people uh don their club gitmo gear and actually go to Sheila Jackson Lee's office and Dick Durbin's office.
Uh so it it can be done.
You can you can you can don your club gitmo gear and uh uh just mind your own business and and walk around whoever you wish to walk around and you'll be fine.
If If you are accosted, if you are approached by angry liberals, what I would say is I just open my arms wide and say, I'm a man of peace.
Okay.
I'm a man of peace.
I'm not provoking you.
You're not throwing anything at them.
You're not gonna verbally taunt them, you're just gonna wear the club getmo t-shirt, right?
You're gonna wear it around campus.
Correct, yes.
Okay.
Now they will consider this a taunt once they see it and figure it out.
And they may try to threaten you.
What all you've got to do is wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I thought you guys were part of peace movement.
Okay.
You know, just just throw it right back at them, and then, you know, either, you know, turn around and walk away, don't provoke them, smile.
I f I think smiling disarms people, not laughing in their face and not pointing a finger at them.
But they come up and they start acting all threatening, just smile at them.
Just hey, how are you guys?
Are you guys from the peace movement?
Okay.
You know, when there's when they're when they're when they're uh taunting you like this.
Okay.
Um and uh we haven't had any reports of assaults.
Okay.
We haven't had any reports of hospitalizations.
Wonderful we've had we've had nobody tell us they had to access their medical health insurance to take care of injuries they suffered while wearing club gitmo gear.
Marvelous.
So I think I think you'll be totally safe out there.
In fact, I think others will secretly want to know where they can get what you have.
Excellent.
Excellent.
So you hang on here, and we'll get all the information because you've got we got like 18 pages now of people uh that that send uh pictures of themselves into our club gitmo photo gallery.
Okay.
In fact, you might walk around, you have a little uh digital camera you can carry around.
Yeah, I yeah, I can get one, yeah.
Well, all right, then here's what you do.
If you are accosted, and I doubt that it'll happen, but if you are accosted, somebody may say something to you.
But if you're actually accosted, put up your hand, say, wait, and ask them to take your picture.
Okay.
And if they destroy your camera and throw it around and stomp on it, we'll see that you get a new one.
Excellent.
So don't worry about losing the camera.
But I don't think that's gonna happen because these are people of peace.
Oh, absolutely.
And these are people of great sensitivity and understanding.
They they they hate war.
They hate confrontation, they despise it.
Uh these people think that war is horrible and any kind of conflict is horrible.
And I don't I just don't think that these people behave you that way.
Okay.
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
I think.
All right, I'm happy to help out there, Brett.
I really appreciate, by the way, uh your call and and uh uh again, the bravery that you are contemplating in donning the Club Gitmogear wearing on campus is something that we all applaud here at the EIB network.
Try this.
This is our old buddy Will Lester at the Associated Press.
An overwhelming number of people say critics of the Iraq war should be free to voice their objections.
A rare example of widespread agreement about a conflict that has divided the nation along partisan lines.
What kind of crap polling is this?
You go out and ask Americans if they're for free speech and a majority say yes and you think it's a surprise.
Who the hell are you, people at the AP?
What are you trying to stir up here?
Wow, people believe in free speech in the United States of America.
Wow!
What big news!
What a great poll.
You know, the irony of this, Mr. Lester, and the rest of you at the AP is it is you libs who oppose free speech.
You want campaign financial form, so certain people can't say certain things certain close to election.
You are you have you have opposition to school prayer, you don't want any religious symbols displayed, you gotta have certain political correct terms to talk about certain things.
There's hate speech that you don't like, there's hate action that you don't like.
You've got all kinds of restrictions on people when it comes to free speech.
You know, uh you believe you should only be able to speak if you have something hateful to say about your country, your God, or unborn babies.
If you want to rip America, you all believe in free speech and that you want to call your president Nazi, yeah, you love the free speech there.
You want to say God's dead, you want to say God's irrelevant, you want to say whatever you want about God, feel free.
You want to say that unborn babies don't feel pain at twenty-nine weeks when they're aborted, go right ahead.
Oh, you guys want all the free speech for yourselves in the world.
But let somebody come up and say something you don't like, and who is it that shuts them down?
It's you on the left, and now we get this poll.
Many people back the right to protest the Iraq war.
Wow.
The American people are for free speech.
The AP thinks they've stumbled across news here.
Ha, how are you?
Rush Limbaugh, America's anchor man.
Seated in the prestigious Attila the Hun chair at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
All right.
It's time for an update, ladies and gentlemen, a story that we had earlier this week from Canton, Ohio.
490 female students at Timkin Hascral.
65 of them are pregnant.
Screw all officials to this day, even after we helped them out earlier this week answering their questions.
Scruel officials still not sure what has contributed to so many pregnancies.
But in response to them, the Scruwel is launching a three-prong educational program to address pregnancy prevention and parenting.
They think it's video games and uh DVDs and music.
Uh those not the three prongs, though they think the the problems uh pregnancy are caused by the uh the three-pronged uh uh effort is pregnancy prevention and parenting, and I went through the three prongs earlier in the week.
Uh and let me just briefly here sum it up for it's very simple.
If 65 of 490 female students at Timkin High School are pregnant, it's because they had sex.
They had sex and with a man, a guy.
They did not have sex with a DVD.
They did not have sex with a movie, and they did not have sex with a video game.
I have yet to hear that a video game impregnated anybody or a DVD.
I'd like to see that.
I'd like to see some of this stuff, but it's not possible.
It hasn't happened.
Prevention.
Don't have sex.
That's my second bit of advice.
No, can't say that.
It works every time it's tried, it's called abstinence.
That's too complicated.
We can't expect that.
We can't expect our kids not to have sex.
Well, then why are you concerned when they're having babies?
If you can't expect them to stop having sex, then why in the world are you gonna be worried about them having babies?
And then parenting.
We need to we need to improve parenting.
Yeah, okay.
Here's what you tell them.
You are a teenager, you have a baby, you are a parent.
It's real simple.
By the way, do you know what the mascot for this high school is?
I am not kidding it.
You're right, it's the Trojans.
It is the Timkin High School Trojans.
I kid you not.
So the school mascot is a condom.
Well, and and they got they got 65 out of 490 female students pregnant.
Well, CNN heard about this, and they sent Paula Zon to cover it, or they had her show cover it.
And we have a montage here of uh of Tom Foreman of CNN.
Uh and the story is with the superintendent of schools out there, uh Diane Tellerico.
And we have a 16-year-old student, Rachel Hinton, and her mother, Joan Hinton.
Those are the people you will hear in this montage.
School officials such as Diane Tallerico are scrambling to explain how they're working with parents, students, and community groups to bring the teen pregnancy rate under control.
For 20 years, it has been steadily decreasing.
And graduation rates are increasing.
So we are clearly doing some right things.
Oh, oh, ho, ho, ho, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop.
But wait a second.
If it's decreased, how come we're hearing about it now?
If 65 out of 490 are pregnant is is progress.
What was it?
Last year.
What was it two years ago?
And why didn't we hear about it then?
Let's resume tape to 16-year-old Rachel Hinton, who's back to school shopping will include a stop at the maternity store.
Like many, she knew about birth control, knew about the risks of early sex.
I never planned on getting pregnant.
I mean, to me, it was something that always happened to that other girl, you know.
I never could get pregnant.
I'm too good to get pregnant.
I hear I am.
It's tricky business, though.
Schools say they can't do all the parenting, while some parents say.
Oh, I'm not gonna totally blame the school system.
I'm I'm gonna take part of the blame, but I can only be there so much for.
All right.
I don't know if you've picked up on it here, but the pregnancy problem uh at the Timken High School Trojans has just been portrayed here as a problem of victimhood.
The uh the student here, uh Rachel Hinton, a victim.
Uh not even sure how this happened.
I never thought it would happen, it's happened.
I mean, yeah, I never could that just wasn't gonna happen to me.
That happened to other people, not me.
The victim.
Don't know how this could have possibly happened.
And then uh the reporters, trisk tricky business, though.
Schools say they can't do all the parenting.
Well, some of the parents say, well, I'm not gonna totally blame the school.
Well, how big of the parent.
Uh we need a higher authority, folks.
Uh, this now is reached the level of which I can no longer be of service.
I can no longer help out here.
We need a higher authority, a more expert opinion to help us uh figure this out.
So uh last night we got that higher authority.
The former uh former Sturgeon General uh uh Jocelyn Elders was on uh CNN and uh Paula Paulosan said, Dr. Elders, will you concede tonight that these abstinence only programs are helping bring down these numbers?
I won't say that they're hurting, but I'm saying that they're not enough for most of our children.
They we need abstinence plus.
Our children need more knowledge.
We can't afford to go and feel that just because we told them no.
We've got to teach them how to feel good about themselves.
The community has to be involved in trying to make sure that we have more and better programs for all of our children, and to say that the abstinence only programs are solving the problem.
We have been teaching abstinence for a thousand years now.
A thousand minus about 40.
The last 30, 40 years we have not been teaching absence.
We've been making fun of it.
We've been talking about how it's unrealistic and how it won't work.
Um Leslie Unru of the Abstinence Clearinghouse then quotes President Bush on the Paula Zone show.
Um uh Paula said, Leslie, uh how is it that our numbers uh are as high as Dr. Elders just pointed out, higher than any other country when it comes to teen pregnancy.
We have just started teaching absence until marriage, and we have been nothing but attacked, attacked, attacked.
We have a president in the White House who says absence works every single time.
This is the first time I have ever heard a president in the White House talking about abstinence in my lifetime, and seeing Congress and parents and everyone coming together with one message, not a mixed message, as Dr. Elders just talked about.
But one message.
Well, I guess are worth it.
I I hope this is clearing up for you folks.
Uh uh Jocelyn Elders then said that we owe our children more than telling them uh that we are just telling them to say no.
When our country doesn't do it on TV, our country doesn't do it uh in movies.
Uh we don't portray it, and the people don't tell that nobody's talking about absence to tell kids not to do it, is silly, it's not gonna make the point.
Uh and for even further clarity, we thought we'd go back uh to 1994.
This is Attorney General Jocelyn Elders uh talking about one of the ways that we might be able uh to avoid teen pregnancy.
In regard to masturbation, I think that that is something that uh it's a part of human sexuality, and it is a part of something that perhaps should be taught.
You gotta hear the last thing that Jocelyn Elders says in this next bite about why abstinence only is simply not gonna work.
Just tell them to say no until marriage, when our country does not do it, our TVs does not do it, our movie does not portray it, and the people that talk about abstinence only, they're considering oral sex, anal sex, uh get it.
You never have.
Jocelyn, why is it that uh people don't consider oral sex to be sex anymore?
Why is it?
Could it be your boss?
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