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Aug. 24, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 24, 2005, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Great to have you back here, folks, on a roll here, fast as three hours in media.
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I appreciate all of you on hold.
We'll get to your phone calls here in an El GIFO little Spanish lingo.
I still crack up at the story we had yesterday that the Mexican presidential election will kick off in Los Angeles next month.
I still I still get a I I just I it's just absurd.
It's it's something you just you can only laugh at it.
If you missed it, sorry, I'm not gonna retrace the steps.
It's on the website from the Washington Post today.
Along the same lines that we've been discussing so far, confidence in military news wanes.
Hmm.
This is a story about Josh White.
The U.S. public's uh confidence that the military and the media keep them informed about national security issues has eroded significantly over the past six years, according to a new poll that shows that 60% of Americans believe they don't get enough information about military matters to make educated decisions.
Retired Major General David Grange, the executive VP of the McCormick Tribune Foundation, said he believes the round the clock news cycle and perceived biases within media organizations have hurt public confidence in their information.
The mass media gets negative points from the people because they think that the big media is taking a position and shaping stories to fit their agenda, said Grange, who commanded the first infantry division.
The military gets negative points because they come across sometimes as being deceptive or using operational security as an excuse, which is far more understandable to me, the military not wanting to give away secrets than the military uh being rooted against by the U.S. media.
You know, and by the there's a there's a uh story today.
I and I touched on this uh yesterday, I had this story about the uh was the LA Times did this story on, or maybe the Washington Post on um Iran's nukes, and they quoted all these unnamed sources saying there aren't any Iran nukes.
We don't have any nukes in Iran, Iran's not working on any nukes.
This is all bogus, this has all been made up, blah, blah, blah.
And somebody's done their own treatment of that piece today.
So why does the American media always side with America's enemies?
Why does the media always side well the fact is the media doesn't always side with America's enemies?
It's only when a Republican president is in office that the media sides with America's enemies.
And that is precisely what's going on now.
And that's what uh uh retired Major General Grange here is talking about.
The mass media gets negative points from the people because they think the big media is taking a position and shaping stories to fit their agenda, and they are.
So you have us another poll here which is basically troops are supported, but the uh but the media isn't.
And and if you want to know, if those of you in the mainstream press want to know why your ratings and circulation are down, you look need to look no further than this.
The American people do not want to hear how our enemies are always valorous, how our enemies are being put upon, and how somehow we're to blame or we deserve to lose.
Just to show you how out of touch, just to show you, just to illustrate for you, because of the insulation that exists in Washington.
I've got two sound bites for you here uh from the Today Show today.
Matt Wauer is talking to Chris Matthews, who's one of NBC's ranking political analysts, and Matt Lauer, and they're talking about Hegel.
But wait till you hear this.
Matt Wauer says the fact that Hegel's a Republican saying this, that Iraq is like Vietnam.
How much a problem is this for the president, old wise one, Mr. Matthews?
Well, it is a problem because he's not just a Republican, as you know, Chuck Hagel, the senator from Nebraska's from a red state, very much the heartland of America, Nebraska, an extremely Republican state.
And also he has two purple hearts from Vietnam.
He and his brother went in that war and served together.
So we're not talking about Yoko Ona here or Jane Fonda.
We're talking about a guy from the Midwest, a Republican who served his country and now believes he sees echoes of a war he himself fought in.
Chris, you couldn't be more wrong about this.
Chuck Hagel does not represent the thinking in Red State America on this issue.
That's what you're missing.
He's a lone voice.
Where else are you hearing this on the Republican side?
One voice, one voice comes from a Red State Nebraska, and the media is so excited.
Why, why this could mean the toppling of the Bush regime?
Why this could mean the crumbling of the granite walls that support the Bush administration?
Why, Chuck Hagel?
Chuck, do you know how many Americans from Red States, Chris, give any credence to Chuck Hagel on any of this?
Zero.
You know how many Nebraskans that voted for him are embarrassed and angry at him, Chris?
Probably about 80% of them that voted for him, don't like that he's saying this, Chris.
The reason you don't have the right perspective is because you are hearing what you believe from a Republican, and so therefore what you believe has to be the majority thinking in the country, and the Republicans are coming around to your view, ain't the case.
And as I said yesterday, and I'm gonna I'm gonna bang this drum again.
You know, Hagel can do all kinds.
He can go out there and appear on ABC or any show he wants.
He's a senator.
He can propose legislation.
He can do any number of things.
He's not a spectator.
If he doesn't think they have enough body armor, propose legislation.
If he doesn't think there's enough troops, propose legislation.
If he doesn't think that the process is going right, do something about it legislatively.
The Congress has the purse strings, the Congress controls the money, the Congress controls policy.
Congress sets the laws in this country.
They are not spectators, but isn't it interesting how they get away with portraying themselves as just spectators?
Well, I'm not doing anything about this.
I just think we're gonna Vietnam, we've got to do something about this.
As long as it echoes the conventional wisdom of the left, it'll be amplified and applauded.
But as far as representing anywhere near even a smidgen of thinking on the American right, it doesn't qualify.
And here's one more.
Mount Lauer says, is the insurgency that's wearing on people, is it the insurgency that's starting to wear people down about this, Chris?
It's this insurgency, which we didn't expect, obviously, and this sense of murkiness.
When's it ever going to end?
Now, in all fairness, too, the administration people and the hawks who supported the war from day one said, oh, this is going to be like World War II.
We're going to win.
It's going to be a clear victory.
We're going to march into Tokyo and into Berlin.
They're going to be practicing democracy the next day and playing baseball, and everything's going to be great.
They were wrong.
It isn't World War II.
It doesn't have that clarity.
I think it's the murkiness.
No, Chris, again, you missed it.
And nobody ever said this is going to be like walking in and playing baseball the next day.
That's in your dreams.
That's that that this has always been portrayed as something that's going to be hard.
It's part of the war on terror, and no end date was ever given.
And the ease with which all this was going to happen was never stated.
A lot of this has been assumed.
But the the the I think the thing that's wearing on people, and I I I want to ask the pollsters to do something.
The next time you pollsters go out there and take a poll on the mood of the American people when it comes to the war in Iraq, don't just give us two groups of people, those opposed and those four, and then tell us that the numbers supporting the president of the war are plummeting.
Ask a third question.
Do you think we ought to be doing more militarily?
Could the murkiness be that people are frustrated that we are this superpower and we are not mowing them down?
Like people think that we can.
Could it be that some people oppose this or feel murky or have a he be jeebies simply because they don't understand why we are pussy footing around in their view, rather than going in there and kicking butt.
And I will bet you, Chris, that if you do that third question on a poll, you and your buddies, insulated inside the walls of the beltway, will be stunned to find out how many Americans are fed up with the pace because we are not kicking.
But it's not that they don't want us to win.
It's not that they want us to come home because they think we're gonna lose.
It's because they don't understand why we aren't pouring it on.
You asked that third question, and I'll bet you would be stunned.
And finally, ladies and gentlemen, I did say that there are some elected officials down there in the ditch in Crawford at the would-be Woodstock II.
Actually, it's Woodstock 3 because they tried to recreate Woodstock some years ago.
And you know you can't do that.
You can't recreate something spontaneously happen the next weekend.
I mean, you let's say you spontaneously have a party on a Friday or Saturday night.
Yes, greatest party you've ever had.
So great you say to everybody, we're doing it again next weekend, and you do it.
It's never the same, is it?
Never the same as the first time.
And it's the same thing here.
This is a third attempt at Woodstock.
So we do have some elected officials down there.
We got John Conyers.
We got uh Maxine Waters, the usual suspect, Sheila Jackson Lee.
And uh she was on uh the big show with John Gibson yesterday on the Fox News channel.
And Gibson said that the president said today, in speaking directly about Cindy Sheehan, that he thinks those who advocate, and I'm I'm I'm quoting now those who advocate immediate withdrawal from Iraq are advocating a policy that would weaken the U.S. So he appreciates her rights protest, but he doesn't want to do that.
What is wrong with his reasoning in your view?
Those persons at Cape Camp Casey may be called many things, but they're military families, uh many of whom have lost uh their loved ones, and they are innocent, if you will, of any sort of uh pointed agenda other than the fact that they have experienced an enormous loss, and they don't want any other mothers, any other families to experience that same loss.
When I went there yesterday, stop to take a second.
I just want you to know you are listening to a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance who is a member of the United States Congress from Texas.
It was not captured by most of the media because I was speaking to the families.
I came there as an American, I came there as a mother and as a parent, and I came there to give them comfort.
Uh, we as members of Congress have a responsibility along with the commander-in-chief and to design an effective strategy to allow our troops to come home with dignity.
But when I spoke to Cindy Sheehan today, she wanted me to make the point uh that she has been nonpartisan.
Really, Sheila, what kind of a dupe are you?
Are you are you really this do you believe this?
She's not partisan.
There's no pointed agenda.
Let's go back in time.
This is April of 2005 at San Francisco State.
You Cindy Sheehan spoke to a group of students who called themselves students against war.
Uh, don't forget now, human rights attorney Lynn Stewart was with her.
Uh this attorney, Lynn Stewart, was convicted of aiding terrorist activity.
We have what do we have?
We got one day.
We got two sound bites here just to show you the non-partisan nature and the lack of any agenda of Cindy Sheehan.
If he thinks that it's so important for Iraq to have uh a U.S. imposed Stansaf Freedom Democracy, then he needs to sign up his two little party.
They need to go to this war.
They need to fight.
And then this.
If I would have known that before my son was killed, I would have taken him to Canada.
I would never have let him go and try and defend this morally repugnant system we have.
The people are good.
The system is morally repugnant.
And of course, that's that's mild compared to other things he said.
But to say it's nonpartisan and to say that there's no agenda attached here is just again, I don't know how you explain it.
I don't know if you know Cindy Sheehan can say to Sheila Jackson Lee, I'm not partisan, and Sheila Jackson Lee believes it.
Or if Sheila Jackson Lee is just trying to pull the wool over ours.
I really don't after that Mars Rover comment, I really don't know how to read her, folks.
Back in just a second.
Okay, time now to go to the phones.
People have been waiting patiently.
Frank in uh Delren, New Jersey.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Great to have you with us.
Gosh, thank you for taking my call.
I calmed down a little bit.
Chris Matthews is absolutely lying.
In fact, President Bush said the opposite.
This is like no other war.
It's going to take a long time.
We're in there for the long haul.
We have to keep the strong will.
And I I'm tired of hearing propaganda.
They're lying.
Well, in in Matthew's defense, I I think what Matthews is saying, and I'm not, I'm not I'm not uh saying he's right, but there's a there's a uh contingent of people on the left who will never forget the fact that some in the defense department said the Iraqis will be cheering us in the streets as we arrive.
And that uh and that it will be a cakewalk and that we don't need to plan for any aftermath.
This is what they think they heard Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld say.
Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz did not say precisely that.
The left has had this this mantra, and it I mean it's it's it's still uh mouthed uh and uttered frequently.
We mismanage the peace.
We didn't plan for the peace, we didn't plan for the aftermath.
Once they get going on their mantras, there's no amount of facts that'll penetrate them and uh and change their minds.
It's also partly due to the fact that the left distinguishes Iraq from the war on terror.
They don't think they're linked at all.
They have nothing to do with one another.
So while Bush did say what he said about the war on terror overall, as you just cited and quoted, the left doesn't think he ever said that and meant that about Iraq.
But look at my point is let them live in their fantasy land, Frank.
Let them live it.
You know, the the the facts of the matter are that they're not persuading anybody, and they are only tearing themselves apart.
Anyone that will pointedly purposely ignore the truth, so that their own agenda and and uh uh definition of events triumphs cannot possibly succeed.
Not in the climate that exists today.
Thirty years ago, yeah.
Twenty years ago, they could write their own history every day, they could write the agenda every day.
There was nobody to counter it.
There was nobody to challenge it, nobody to present an alternative point of view anywhere else in the media.
It doesn't exist today.
Another thing they haven't come to grips with.
So don't lose any sleep over it, and certainly, you know, don't get angry about well, I mean, you're gonna get angry about it, but uh at the end laugh at it.
Paul in college station, Texas.
Hello, sir.
Sir, good afternoon.
Thanks for taking my call, long-term listener, first time caller.
Hey, uh, I'm uh active duty officer, been in the Navy for over twenty years, and uh when I heard the sound bite from Chris Matthews, it just kind of again raised the hair on the back of my neck.
Uh, from the military perspective, uh, we have not been misled.
The President, Secretary of Defense, uh, and all of his staff have been very forthcoming in what was expected of us uh prior to going into Afghanistan, all the way through up until the uh the current point.
It's uh it's a long hard road.
We knew that going in.
Uh we knew what we were getting into, but that's our job and that's our mission.
And as long as we have the support of the country, uh, we're gonna succeed over there.
And it's really bother it bothers me when I see Chris Matthews or Matt Lauer or the other talking heads from the mainstream media sitting here spouting basically the same uh BS that they're putting out.
They're reading their own propaganda, and that's what they're regurgitating.
Yeah, uh don't worry about it.
I mean, get mad about it as I say, but um it's nothing to fear anymore, I guess is the point.
I can't tell you not to get mad about it because I myself get a little mad, but I end up laughing at them.
I just I you if you stand back and and and just watch these people, any of them on the left, it's a circus.
The whole thing's a circus.
Now I realize their negative implications.
These people are dangerous when they're in power.
Don't don't misunderstand.
Remember what I've always said.
When they're out of power is when they get hilarious.
That's when they crack up, and that's when they go nuts.
When they get back in power and they believe that stuff, well, time to hunker down.
So I'm not I'm not trying to minimize the threat that they pose, but uh it is clear that every effort they're making here to try to win the day, uh, as far as the public opinion is concerned is not succeeding.
They are they're failing, and in the process, they're only tearing themselves apart.
Larry in Clarksburg, West Virginia.
Hello, sir, great you called.
Thank you, Rush, for taking my call.
Although I am extremely angry with you right now.
Um, some of the things you've been saying over the past hours, uh uh man, it's it's I I don't know what to do.
Uh this the the things you say about Cindy Sheehan are just absolutely unbelievable to me.
Like what?
Well, uh the the stuff about dishonor dishonoring her son by being at the ranch.
I didn't say that today.
Well, you know what you said.
What blogger you're reading?
Rush, I I no, no, no, no, wait a minute.
I didn't say it today.
What blogger you reading?
Maybe you didn't say it today, but you said it over the past week, you said it over the past couple weeks.
Oh, I will say it today because I believe she is dishonoring her son.
Well, I I understand that, but let me give you two instances in which I believe her son could have fought and died, and she would not be there, and she would not be saying the things that she's saying.
She could have went to Afghan he could have went to Afghanistan and died in the line of duty looking for Al Qaeda, which is what our military should be doing, or he could have died in Iraq as he did.
And you know, maybe if we would have found those weapons of mass destruction.
Larry, do you realize how weak this is?
You understand how pathetically we I'm trying to help you out here.
You gotta come up with better arguments.
So this is not going to persuade anybody.
The man joined up on his own.
He joined up on his own because he believed it.
Bush didn't steal her son, Bush didn't persuade her son, Bush didn't do it, didn't send her son anywhere.
Casey Sheehan joined up on his own, and some research into the unity was what shows he was a pretty brave guy.
And the fact that you want to draw distinct, you want to say Iraq now is somehow ignoble because we're back to this.
It was based on a lie, weapons of mass destruction.
That you gotta get over that.
You gotta get over it.
Number one, it's not true.
Number two, it's irrelevant now.
But to say that you you you could come up with circumstances where she wouldn't be pre- have you talked to her.
This is this is funny.
Thank you.
We'll be back.
Uh the last caller.
You know, I feel very bad.
Uh Larry in uh in Clarksburg, West Virginia.
I was I said, I had to go to the bathroom here during the break.
Uh and and I I passed by the uh our local uh surprise and and gift closet here.
You know, we keep a stash of stuff here from the EIB store, and I saw we got a whole bunch of uh club gitmo t-shirts back there.
I thought I should have offered him one.
You know, as a as a as a token of uh goodwill and and appreciation he had called.
By the way, um Larry, if you're if you're still out there, this whole notion that Cindy Sheehan would have supported her son and Bush uh had her son gone to uh Afghanistan.
Chris Matthews asked her, if your son had been killed in Afghanistan, would you have a different feeling?
And Sheehan said, I don't think so, Chris, because I believe Afghanistan is almost the same thing.
You don't the efforts to which you people on the left will go here to try to make your case is it's the bordering here on the on the absurd.
Uh and of course, none of you on the left ever want to examine what she says.
You always want to call here and talk to me what I said.
But you never want to talk to me about what she said.
The media doesn't want to talk about what she said.
In fact, it got so bad what she was saying, they had to excuse it by saying, Well, she has absolute moral authority.
She lost her son.
You have to understand she's in distress.
You have to understand she's brokenhearted.
You can't hold her account.
She is a miserable mother that lost her son to me and Bush did it.
How can you blame her?
And then, when that didn't fly, then they had to come out and say, Well, she's not the story anyway.
Bush is the story.
The ferret like Paul Krugman said that Sunday on TV.
Frank Rich of the New York Times wrote that on Sunday in the uh in the New York Times.
So I'm uh amazed that you all on the left don't think we can keep up with you.
You know, the way we keep up with you is to slow down.
We are so far ahead of you.
We know where you're going before you do.
We get where you're going before you get halfway there.
We come up with our response to you so that when you show up, it's like a train wreck.
And still you keep coming.
Gene in Hartford, Connecticut.
Welcome to the program.
Nice to have you with us.
Thank you.
Don't you dare coddle that moon bat, Larry.
My son, 14 months in Iraq.
Going back.
How dare he?
He doesn't know what it is to dishonor his son's memory because he doesn't know what honor is.
Thank you for making my point.
I stomach Matthews as long as I possibly could, but I did hear the comment that it didn't matter if it was Afghanistan or Iraq.
This woman is just insane.
I believe she has lost her mind.
And I just can't.
I am I am livid.
You know, mind is a terrible thing to lose.
It really is.
Not so much a liberal mind, but you know, we take what we can get.
Well, I know it's not a great loss on the liberal side when they lose a mind.
There's not much to lose in the first place.
But you know something, I can understand your anger about this.
I that the we with the the American people, uh we've had we've had over 1,800 uh sons and daughters of Americans die in Iraq.
And the American people know the name of one parent.
May I interject?
During the months prior to the war, they expected 50,000 guests going in.
50,000 American KIAs going in.
Who Who who who said that?
The media.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's part of that.
I mean, they expected that before the Gulf War, too.
And now we have 1800, and you know, may they rest in peace, but I can't believe they're exploiting this.
And I just want to say, if our mainstream media today were in cat during World War II, they would claim Hitler were inviting the Jews to a barbecue.
Rush, I am livid.
You please keep up the good work.
Well, before you before you uh before you go, Gene, uh I have to tell you something.
I uh three times this summer I've gone up to Connecticut to visit friends.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, three times.
Are you on a cell phone?
Yes, I am.
Okay, well uh I'll I'll try to talk when a signal doesn't break up.
Uh I know when the signal's gonna break up on a cell phone.
No, I'm not I'm sorry you came to Connecticut.
Well, no, no, you're you're you're great because you're so unlike most Connecticut people.
I've been up there three times this summer and I've run into them, and they are the most depressed, down in the dumps, doom and gloomers I have run on our side.
I discovered Well, I've yeah Brevity is the soul of wit, folks, and she owns it.
Uh I'm it's it's it's not they're on our side, and it's not that they want to be doom and gloom, but it's what they're exposed to up there.
And so to hear you is like, oh, it's music to my ears.
Thank you.
I'm I'm a military mom, I'm proud of it.
My son has served honorably in Iraq.
And this just infuriates me.
Well, you're not alone.
A lot of infuriates a lot of people in your shoes, and I'm glad you called.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Yeah, Amy in uh in Fort Knox, Kentucky, robbed once by Goldfinger.
Hello.
Hi, Rosh.
Uh great honor to speak with you, sir.
Thank you very much.
Um, I just have a quick comment on Cindy Sheehan.
Um, I'm a proud military wife.
My husband's in the army.
Um, he did a year in Iraq, and then we were sent here so he could train uh new recruits going in.
And if Cindy Sheehan really wanted to honor her son and to gain insight into his character, you know, I think she should come here and take a look at these young um guys who are uh joining the military because they love their country.
Let me tell you something.
That is an excellent idea.
Remember I said last hour how whatever event happens, the media always examines it from the standpoint of the effect it's gonna have on Republicans.
And so let's say, uh, since this doesn't happen very much, let's say that on this program I say something that irritates a left.
So you ought to spend some time with those people.
You find it so easy to criticize you.
Well, nobody is ever saying, Cindy, you don't have you ever thought about spending some time with some soldiers?
Maybe the guys that served with your son.
Have you ever thought about that?
Nobody would ever suggest that to her on the left because that's not her purpose.
They don't want her to understand this.
They want her to keep saying what she's saying, or just to provide the event that they can say and use uh put words in her mouth or whatever.
But excellent point.
Uh but I don't I don't I don't think Cindy Sheehan wants evidence to change her worldview.
I don't think anybody on the left wants evidence to change their worldview.
That's panic time for them, folks.
It is panic time when they are confronted with hard evidence that challenges their worldview on anything, that's you don't want to be around when that happens.
That is such depression.
You think I mean ProZec wouldn't help.
It is it is it is not a happy moment.
These people are not happy when they realize they've been wrong, and so they don't even admit it.
And they don't confront it real uh very often.
They do they they concoct their dream world, they live in it, create their own little utopia out there, and that's as far as it goes.
Richard in Kingsport, Tennessee.
Welcome to the program.
Hey, Rush, it's wonderful to talk with you.
Thank you, sir.
Um just wanted to say that I think you should drop the whole Cindy Sheehan thing.
I don't think it's a subject or a topic.
I think it's just a grieving mother, and that's it's not worth talking about.
Okay.
Hang on a minute.
I have I have the whole sheehan thing here.
Uh you Are you watching on the Ditto Cam out there, Richard, by any chance?
No, I'm not watching on the ditto cam.
I'm on the road.
Okay, okay.
Well, I have I I have the whole Cindy Sheehan thing here.
It's it's about oh th uh looks to be about 75 to 100 pages of news media stories about Cindy Sheehan.
Yeah.
Well, I've got to know what I'm gonna do.
No, no, I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna drop it for you.
Wonderful.
I just I just dropped it.
I got all these stories on Cindy Sheehan out there.
Uh and so I just dropped it for you, and I'm doing anything to make our callers happy here.
Well, really appreciate it.
Let's go.
Hubbahubba and have a great day out there.
We'll be back after this, folks.
Stay with us.
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All right, it has uh it was stated earlier here by a caller uh that Cindy Sheehan uh would not be critical of the president or uh the military had her son died in Iraq uh looking for bin Laden.
Afghanistan, sorry, Afghanistan, uh uh looking for uh bin Laden.
Let's go back.
Uh roll back the hands of time here to August the 15th, nine days ago, ladies and gentlemen, on PMS, NBC, hard-boiled with Chris Matthews, Cindy Sheehan, the nonpartisan guest.
Uh Matthews said, Can I ask you a tough question?
A very tough question.
If your son have been killed in Afghanistan, would you have a different feeling, huh?
Huh?
I don't think so, Chris, because I believe that Afghanistan is almost the same thing.
We're we're fighting terrorism or terrorists, we're saying, but they're not contained in a country.
You know, this is an ideology and not an enemy.
And you know, we know that Iraq, Iraq um had no terrorism.
They were no threat to the United States of America.
All right.
When you parse that, uh what you get is this.
If your son had been killed in Afghanistan, would you have a different feeling?
Answer no.
Contrary to what the caller who was putting words and thoughts and hopes and dreams in the embodiment of Ms. Sheehan said.
Then the next question, Matthew says, but Afghanistan was harboring the Taliban, the uh in our Qaeda, which is the group that attacked us on 9-11.
Then we should have gone after Al Qaeda, and maybe not after the country of Afghanistan.
That's where they were headquarters.
Shouldn't we go after their tape?
I did, I'm hearing this for the first time.
Well, we should have gone after the Al Qaeda, maybe not after the whole country.
Yeah, you know, yeah, we should have just gone after Hitler, not the whole country of German Germany.
You know, the the the it's not even worth the time.
Uh i it really isn't even worth the time.
The the Oh to those of you on on the left, let me let me try to explain something to you uh about what's going on here.
The reason that bin Laden was in Afghanistan is because it was a stateless regime.
There was no government.
The Taliban, there was a civil war, Taliban won that's the Taliban was running the country as as a 14th century out of control maniacal religion.
There was no government, and that's why it's important.
If you look at bin Laden's travels, he always went to places that were stateless, that would be easy to go in and take over essentially and run.
Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan.
Here's the rest of this for what it's worth, which is primarily entertainment value.
Doesn't that make sense?
Well, but there were a lot of innocent people and killed in that invasion too.
So I'm not a military strategist, but I'm saying that we're sending our ground troops in to invade countries where the entire country wasn't the problem, especially Iraq.
You know, Iraq was no problem.
And why do we send in um invading armies to march into Afghanistan when we're looking through a for a select group of people in that country?
So um I believe that our troops um should be brought home out of both places.
We're obviously not having any success in Afghanistan.
Osama bin Laden is still on the loose, and you know, that's that's who they told us was responsible for.
You know, I I I I don't know how you people on the left have the guts here to uh embarrass this woman any more than you already are.
Uh we have not had any success in Afghanistan.
Folks I said at the outset of this that I feel very sorry for this woman.
I have said from the outset that this woman is being used and exploited.
I have said from the outset that this woman's grief and that her loss is making uh uh making it is is making her a target for the people who are using her.
I didn't talk about Cindy Sheehan for a full week.
I did not mention her for a full week, because I have I have nothing but absolute sympathy for her, and after hearing these two bites, this woman would not even pass the test before my call screener to get on the air, folks.
Honestly now.
For whatever reason, she couldn't even get on this program as a caller.
She has become the cause celeb of the left.
And the left, if anybody needs to be feeling guilt or sadness or remorse, it is you people putting this woman up.
It is you who are stoking her fire and sending her out there uh to say these things, knowing full will.
I don't know if you know it or not, but this is just this is this is this is just in inhumane what you ought to do into this woman.
To send her out to these TV shows and say these guys, do you you not understand the reaction people have to this?
And by association to you.
You know, i it's getting a little weary here hearing how heartless and cold and cruel the critics of the anti-war movement are.
The cold-heartedness and cruelty is the use and the exploitation of this woman that the left has engaged in here that is resulted in her presenting herself to the nation in the manner that you just heard, which is it's simply sad.
Simply s why you think that this is the kind of stuff that the president of the United States has to go listen to?
You think that his time is so invaluable that this is the kind of stuff that you want him to have to hear.
I'll tell you, if there's any shame that needs to be felt by anybody, it's by you people on the left for what you have done to this woman.
She I don't care what she's done, she doesn't deserve this kind of embarrassment and humiliation.
And you put her up.
We'll be back after this.
Stay with us.
I guess we now know why Cindy Sheehan is not being offered as the lone guest for the full hour on Meet the Press, or the lone guest for the full half hour of Nightline, and why she sporadically shows up on these sparsely watched cable shows.
Uh it's all coming together out there, folks.
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