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Aug. 17, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 17, 2005, Wednesday, Hour #2
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A little programming note.
I um, and I have to tell you, I'm I'm um sort of in awe here.
I I'm overwhelmed by all the response that the highly acclaimed monologue I delivered uh spontaneously and on the spot on Monday after the call from the liberal in San Diego about how the war was unjust because the sons and daughters of uh Washington politicians and President Bush are not there.
Um we have posted that monologue, uh, the transcript, the audio, and the ditto cam video on the free side at rushlimbaug.com, and I I have never gotten such reaction, such response uh to anything that I've it's hard for me to remember.
I mean it's it's stunning, folks, and I I cannot I cannot thank you enough.
The the thing that's intriguing about it is that I have spoken on countless previous occasions about the people who make this country work.
Uh this time, however, it seemed to resonate, and uh for whatever reason.
It makes me glad.
That makes me happy.
But I've decided to do this.
I told a broadcast engineer today, I said, Mike, I want you to get the audio from the actual broadcast on Monday, roll it off, and uh have it ready to re-air either Thursday or Friday.
I think I think on Open Line Friday I might replay this again.
Uh at the same time that it happened.
Uh maybe I'll choose a different hour, I'm not sure.
Uh, but it's uh it's obvious that uh it struck a chord.
And I intended it to, but it's always uh gratifying when it does.
So I wanted to alert you to that, and I wanted to also take the occasion of all this to offer my uh my heartfelt thanks.
Now, the last hour I mentioned to you that it was fabulous what happened on the Today Show today is the classic example of a reporter asking a question to somebody and assuming there's gonna be an answer, but getting one he's totally unprepared for.
It happened to our old buddy Matt Oauer on the Today Show today.
He was he's in Iraq, and he talked to uh a couple of soldiers over there.
Uh one of them he spoke to was Army Captain Sherman Powell.
And he said, uh, he said, now don't get me wrong.
I mean, I I think you guys are probably telling me the truth about how well it's going over here, but there might be a lot of people at home wondering how that could be possible.
How could it possibly be going well here with the conditions you're facing and with the insurgent attacks that you're facing?
So what would you say to those people who are doubtful that morale can be that high here?
Well, sir, I'd tell you if I got my news from the newspapers also, I'd be pretty depressed as well.
What don't you think is being correctly portrayed?
Sir, I know it's hard to get out and and get on the ground and report the news, and and I understand that, and I appreciate that fact.
But for those of us who actually have had a chance to get out and go on patrols and meet the Iraqi army and the Iraqi police and go on patrols with them, uh, we are very satisfied with the way things are going here, and we are confident that if we're allowed to finish the job we started, we'll be very proud of it.
And our country will be proud of us for doing it.
You know, I can't I cannot stand up and cheer loud enough for these guys.
This is the same story that we get whenever one of them returns and calls us on this program.
Has it not struck you as strange, folks?
This little uh apparent contradiction.
In this country, we have all kinds of Democrats and liberals, the squatters in Crawford, Texas, that are oh, and by the way, speaking of this, Cindy Sheehan's mad.
She's mad at the media is showing up in such numbers and destroying the original intent of her protest.
She's all upset about it.
It just proves the point that I have been saying all along that the media is simply using her the same way they use Bill Burkett, the same way they use all these other people to uh to try to drive a chink into Bush's armor.
Uh, and they end up exploiting these people, and it's just it's It's classic.
But here in this country on our own soil, you have people who are doing their best to run down the U.S. military to make morale bad.
That's one of the objectives.
We talked about it all week.
These are miserable, angry people, and they become happy by spreading their misery to others.
They enjoy making other people feel unhappy and miserable and putting them on edge.
And so they're purposely trying to run down the morale.
They're purposely trying to create circumstances in the minds of Americans where we can't win this, and we shouldn't win this, and we shouldn't even be there.
It's the whole point of trying to recast what's going on in Iraq today is the same thing that happened in Vietnam.
And yet, when we hear from people who are there, when we hear from the men and women in uniform when they come back, all we hear are the same things we just heard Captain Powell say.
And let me play this for you again because this is this is a classic.
I mean, Lauer just set himself up here and didn't know what was coming.
These guys first are telling Lauer how high the morale is and how excited they are about the mission and how proud they are of their country and now how proud of their own success they are.
And Lauer says, Well, don't get me wrong.
I mean, I think you guys are probably telling me the truth.
Now, what is this mean?
I think you guys are probably telling me the truth.
Their attitude of arrogance and superiority that only the things they believe are are obvious to everybody.
I don't think you're lying.
Well, what do you I don't think you're lying to me?
Oh, I do think the military would lie because I think your bosses would tell you to lie.
I think your commanders would tell you to lie to us.
When it comes to the institutions of this country, it's fascinating to me that the military is always held under suspicion.
And it's always assumed that members of the military will lie.
Bill Clinton, of course, never would lie.
But if he did lie, we marveled at how good a liar he was.
We marveled at how clever he was in being able to spin people.
And we called him a great politician for being able to lie so well.
Well, with the U.S. military, we don't believe what you're saying.
You're just being put up to saying this.
Don't get me wrong.
I mean, I think you guys are probably telling me the truth, but there might be a lot of people at home who were wondering how that could be possible with the conditions you're facing and with the insurgent attacks that you're facing.
Well, why do those people think that?
What is it that they are seeing?
Don't forget, my friends, that it was just this week.
The editor of the Tampa Tribune or St. Peter, whatever the paper was over there, uh called the AP and said, hey, I'm getting emails from all kinds of people says they're great news in Iraq that we're not reporting.
And the AP boss in New York said, Well, yeah, yeah, but our people really don't leave the hotel.
I mean, it it's obvious that there is no intent to report some of the good news.
It's obvious what the intent here is to cast doubt.
It is to dampen morale, but it is failing.
The rest of the question is, what would you say to those people at home who are doubtful that your morale can be this?
What would you say to people who think you're lying?
Well, sir, I'd tell you if I got my news from the newspapers also, I'd be pretty depressed as well.
What don't you think is being correctly portrayed?
Sir, I know it's hard to get out and get on the ground and report the news.
And I understand that.
And I appreciate that fact.
But for those of us who actually have had a chance to get out and go on patrols and meet the Iraqi army and the Iraqi police and go on patrols with them, uh, we are very satisfied with the way things are going here.
And we are confident that if we're allowed to finish the job we started, we'll be very proud of it.
And our country will be proud of us for doing it.
Damn right about that.
Most of this country will be anyway.
I can't, I literally I cannot tell you I get goosebumps when I hear these people talk this way.
Thank God for them.
And it just infuriates me that they are immediately suspects when they say things like this, but yet a bunch of squatters in a ditch in Texas are considered to be holier than thou truth tellers.
And I'm sure it irritates you the same way.
I got another great answer here.
Lauer then said, Well, there's been some uh this are reports in immediate lately, and I'm gonna get your feathers ruffled here, I'm sure, in a second, that expectations now are starting to be lowered for what would be success here in Iraq.
How would you feel about U.S. forces being withdrawn before, say you're shaking your head, I can see it, before the insurgency is defeated.
Well, sir, I would just tell you, uh, and for the people who are listening back at home that we appreciate the support we've gotten from them so far.
And uh and soldiers will do anything when they know they they have good leadership and they have the support from the people back at home.
And as long as we continue to have confidence that we are supported and people have our back, there is nothing we cannot accomplish.
Captain Sherman Powell in Iraq today talking to um Matt Lauer, and of course, the enemies of our military know full well that they can uh affect the morale, uh which is precisely what they are trying to do.
Happy, happy, happy to see it's not working.
Back after this.
Stay with us.
A huge see I told you so coming up in mere moments.
But first, let's go to the phones.
People have been patiently waiting.
Um, this is Jeff in Memphis.
Hello, sir.
Nice to have you with us.
Oh, Mr. Limbaugh, and I never thought I'd call your your uh show, but I'm very happy to after just hearing that Matt Lauert uh interview be played.
I didn't hear it this morning, but it's exactly what I feel.
I think uh Miss Sheen is wrecking Matt Morale, not over there, but over here in the United States.
That's the objective of the people who are protesting the war.
They're trying to gin up anti-war support among the American people, uh, much as happened back in Vietnam uh for the express purpose of uh uh basically defeating the war effort.
I mean, that's the whole point, that's the whole point of this, because that will then uh descend negatively to Bush and Republicans at the next election cycle.
Plus, these people are just against the U.S. military in general on principle.
And I I'm so infuriated by this that I believe, and I know this is controversial, and even the people that are for the war don't say this on TV.
I believe that she is spitting on her son's grave.
Um, the people have said that in her own words.
I mean, people people have said that she's dishonoring her son's memory, that you know her son wasn't drafted, her son joined.
Her family has pretty much said stop doing this.
I mean, uh, but it's it's it's clear that that she is not honoring his actions, she's dishonoring them.
Uh but this is why I say she's being exploited.
This this is a kind of thing uh the people who have true compassion uh would have a great sense of of grief themselves over over what all is happening to Cindy Sheehan.
But no, they they they look at her as an opportunity to exploit the circumstance.
I mean, she's the next Jersey girl, she's the next Bill Burkett, she's the next uh Richard Clark.
I mean, she's she's just the next in a long line of playbook attempts.
This is the same page from the playbook, and they keep running the same play.
And when the Jersey girls burn out, it's time to go to Richard Clark.
Clark Burns out, it's time to uh to go to Cindy Sheehan or something.
So sort of Bill Burkett.
You know, CBS was even willing to run the risk that they'd get away with using forged documents.
That's how desperate they were.
Um, speaking of this, uh, ladies and gentlemen, let me take a brief time out here to address something.
I have been the recipient of uh a pretty decent amount of hate mail, far, far, far more hate mail than uh than I usually get just this morning.
Uh I don't really get a whole lot of hate mail, and most of it's funny as it can be.
Uh, but apparently there is uh uh something that is out there misreporting what I have said, and of course, these people are reading that rather than listening to this program and choosing to believe it.
Apparently, what's out there is that I said that Cindy Sheehan is no different than Bill Burkett.
Uh that Bill Burkett lied and Cindy Sheehan lied.
They're actually out there people saying that I am accusing Cindy Sheehan and making up the fact that she had a son and making up the fact that her son died in Iraq.
And of course, have never said this.
I early on in this, if you want to go back and we'll post the archives on my website tonight, just to illustrate this.
I'm the one that actually expressed a little compassion for her.
And I said I, you know, I don't really want to talk too much about her, particularly because she's lost a son here.
And that can never be easy.
And I don't care what you know, there are all kinds of different people that have all kinds of different reactions to this.
Uh losing but losing a child is the absolute worst thing that can happen to an adult.
There's nothing that rivals it in uh it in my estimation.
So the idea that I think that she's making it all up is just another sign of the desperation of the people on the left who love to take us all out of context to try to get their side riled up.
What I said was that the media looks at her the same way they look at Bill Burkett as an opportunity.
It didn't matter whether Burkett was telling the truth or not, and it doesn't matter what the specifics of Cindy Sheehan's case are.
She is protesting Bush.
Burkett hated Bush.
That's why they're attractive to the media and that's why the media is willing to exploit her.
And in fact, to buttress and prove my point, I have two stories.
First, Washington Post, Sheehan feeling the glare of spotlight.
She's the victim of the media.
Cindy Sheehan wrote in a town, Crawford, Texas, ten days ago, a forlorn mother with a question for her president, why did my son die in Iraq?
But now the same wave of publicity and political anger that she rode to become a nationally known symbol threatens to crash down on Sheehan herself.
Did I not tell you that this train was about to derail the backlash becoming a new object lesson in how saturation media coverage and the instinct for personal attack are shaping political debate.
The Washington Times is lamenting the fact that this is all backfiring because the media is promoting her like she's the second coming it's exactly this story is another see I told you so this is exactly what I've been trying to tell you every time somebody calls here they're upset about the media said don't worry it's backfiring.
People don't want to see this.
They're smart enough to see through it.
And so now ten days of the protest is grown and all kinds of people are showing up and now you've got the media giving her more airtime than anybody usually in a situation like this would get even talking to her about running for office.
Chris Matthews the other night tried to talk her into running for office.
And now it's not working the backlash because too much attention's been focused on it.
And this is typical of people who are desperate typical of people who are losing they don't know when enough is enough.
They're not convinced that they've made their point so they keep shouting and they keep throwing and they keep talking and finally people get bored.
Finally you run out of the emotional reservoir necessary to feel sorry for people when it's constantly jammed down your face when it's constantly thrown in your face jammed down your throat and then they tell you how can you not feel sorry for her whatever and they keep doing and you feel sorry everybody does but after a while okay I get it.
And then it becomes excessive and then you become suspicious of the motives why are they keep telling me about this woman I know she's down there.
I know why she's doing this.
Why do they keep trying to build her up?
So now the Washington Post, all concerned here.
Conservative commentators'websites are taking aim at Sheehan with the same ferocity that she has aimed at Bush.
In part, they're using her own words against her, reciting such controversial comments as her vow to refuse to pay taxes to a government waging an illegal war and her desire to see Bush impeached.
The backlash is becoming a new object lesson in how saturation media coverage and the instinct for personal attack are shaping political negotiations.
debate.
Some commentators said the pushback on the right has succeeded at scuffing the public sympathy and deference that she is it that's not it.
The people that are destroying Cindy Sheehan are her supporters.
The people that are harming her effort are her supporters the media constantly ramming this woman down everybody's throat making sure that we get it that we understand that Bush sucks that Bush is rotten that the war is ignoble that it's horrible that we deserve to lose that we're going to keep putting people like Cindy Sheehan in your face until you figure it out you idiot which is the script that guides most of the media in reporting this story.
And that's what's causing the backlash because people are smart enough to get it after a couple days okay the woman's down there she's grieving she lost her son and she disagrees with Bush about okay we get it but until Bush is resigned from office impeached or there's a poll that shows he's down to 10% approval we're going to keep this stuff up.
And there will be another Cindy Sheehan and there will be it doesn't matter what the circumstances are there will be another in the meantime in the meantime Cindy Sheehan is so emboldened the kooks on her own team that they can't wait to come down there and join her.
Then you add all those kooks showing up with all the media thinking they're responsible for creating the situation and you've got a giant well I can't use the term that I normally use to describe a whole bunch of worthless people doing useless things.
First words cluster you got a whole cluster of them down there folks and what they are doing is is single handedly destroying her message.
Even she knows it.
Cindy Sheehan is the well we got a USA Today story here, and Cindy Sheehan says she's she she's a victim of the Bush administration, but she's also a victim of the media, a victim of the kooks.
Her modest anti-war protest along the road to President Bush's ranch has evolved into a headline grabbing national movement.
And uh she's worried about it too.
She says, I appreciate all their help, but their help's gonna have to uh diminish and go to the signs line sidelines.
I want to get back to just being a lone woman sitting on my chair protesting the president till he comes out to say hello to me and meet with me.
She doesn't like this circus because she knows it's not helping.
Well, I don't think she does.
I think she knows now this is starting to backfire, just like the Washington Post story says.
It's a backlash going on out there.
You know, even after all these years of documented uh accuracy and and and perception and prediction.
Snerdley still doubts me.
I can see it on his face.
When I said that she, even Cindy Sheehan's upset with this, he looked at me, have you lost your mind?
And I will tell you what I told Mr. Snerdley.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is her protest.
This was her time in the sun.
This was her chance to be heard.
This was her chance to get the whole world focused on her, and now a bunch of hangers on.
A bunch of left-wing kooks are showing up down there, and they're using this protest as an occasion to raise funds to get new members to their websites.
She, I'm telling you, she's being exploited, and I will also guarantee you that in her heart she knows it.
She would never probably say it publicly, but she's getting close enough as it is.
This USA Today story from which I was quoting, even references some of these things.
Sheehan is being championed and financially underwritten by liberal groups, a conference call with reporters Tuesday, sponsored by Moveon.org.
True Majority and Democracy for America.
She's being helped here by PR systems who work for Fenton Communications, which is being paid to help Sheehan by True Majority.
A group founded by Ben and Jerry is Ben and Jerry's ice cream fame.
Other groups that share her viewers are promoting her cause.
Some are seeking donations to their websites based on her protest.
Even Elizabeth Edwards, the wife of John Edwards, the Brick girl, showed up on Tuesday.
Uh well, she emailed supporters and asked them to sign an online petition backing uh Cindy Sheehan.
Uh and I'm telling you, uh it it it's it's backfiring.
It it what?
Now what?
Now what do you disagree with me about now?
What I it's it's it is, it's sort of like their dance bake sale, except except ours didn't, we didn't do it on the air, we did it for the people that were there.
It's it's it's it's folks.
This is I don't know, I don't want to sound know it all-ish, even though I am.
I I'm just I'm I can read these things like every square inch of my glorious naked body.
I understand these people.
And I would think after all these years that you would trust me when I tell you what they're doing, and I'm telling you they are exploiting her, and I'm telling you that all this media attention is causing a backlash.
How about this guy that drove hey, the guy that drove through the crosses?
The guy that drove through the crosses.
Okay, that's bad.
Bad form.
We don't support that.
But wait a second.
What are religious symbols doing here at a liberal protest?
Those are crosses with the names of people who have died in Iraq.
What the hell are religious symbols doing with a bunch of secularists?
And why is nobody asking that question?
Hmm.
If this were a Republican group with crosses, you'd have a bunch of people crying and moaning about the religious uh connection and so forth.
But I'm I'm just confident as I've ever been.
I told you this train's about to derail, and it is.
And its effectiveness ended long ago.
It's not a f it's not, it's it's not affecting anything.
You heard the soldier in Iraq.
You heard him on the Mount Wower show.
This is the people of this country are too wise now.
And they're too and they're too informed and they're too educated, and they understand when something's being thrown in their face rather than simply being reported.
Here's David in Avon, Ohio.
Next up, sir, welcome to the program.
Hey Rush, love you, brother.
Think you do a great job, and uh really proud of the soldiers that are overseas fighting for us right now.
But my question for you is we always know that people are gonna protest anything that the military does.
There's always gonna be a segment of the population who does that.
And our our nation based on free speech, we gotta let these people protest somehow to to give them an out.
But what would be an effective way for them to protest but not do it so that it it hurts the morale or hurts the soldiers.
But a lot of these people are against the war.
And and you know, it's it's not good or bad that they're against the war.
It's just that's the way they're gonna be.
So, how could they do it?
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Wait, wait.
See, that's where you and I part ways.
I think in this case it is bad against to be in the war.
I think it's dumb to be against the war.
I think it's uninformed to be against the war.
We are there.
You can argue about whether or not we should be, but that's done now.
You can argue about whether or not we should have gone, you can argue about whether we planned the peace, all that garbage, but that's irrelevant now because we're there.
And it is not a good thing for us to lose.
This is not something that's unambiguous or ambiguous.
This is not something where, well, yeah, we have to give weight to the other side.
No, there's clearly a right and wrong here.
We've got the men and women of the U.S. armed forces engaged in action that risks their lives to protect the freedom of people in this country and in Iraq to wish defeat is wrong.
It's not hard to say.
It's wrong.
Now, as to your question about protesters, yep.
Anyone can say whatever they want.
I get so sick and tired of this defense.
I have a constitutional right to say it.
Yes, you do.
But you know what you don't have?
You don't have a constitutional right to be heard.
Just because you gather with a bunch of your people in a ditch in Texas does not guarantee you the right to be heard.
Nobody has the right to be heard.
We have the right to speak.
So if 200 people or 100 people or five people want to gather anyway and start protesting and carrying signs, let them.
I couldn't care less.
I do not condemn them doing what they do.
And if you listen to what I've said about this Sheehan thing from day one, you will understand that I'm being consistent now.
The thing that I just boil over is when the mainstream press shows up and amplifies this and tries to make it look like that it is a protest that represents the majority thinking in this country, and if it doesn't represent the majority thinking that it should represent the majority thinking, and that these people have a right to defeat the war effort.
They have a right to condemn the morale of the uh of the U.S. military in a circumstance like this.
I think that we'd have been far further down the road and we would be much more successful against the war on terrorism if we could unite as a country.
And if the Democratic Party would come together now and then when the U.S. military is on foreign soil and actually fighting on the ground rather than 15,000 feet in the air as we did in Bosnia, if the U.S. Democratic Party would realize that politics ends at the water's edge like it always used to until Vietnam,
and come together and support this effort because they understand what the purpose is, we would have a lot less of this going on with these the the endless parade of left-wing protesters who are being made larger than life by a media which wants them to do the work.
The media is now unable to do itself.
The media in the normal course of its reporting cannot sway public opinion anymore, folks.
The media in the normal course of its reporting cannot cannot ruin the nationwide morale when it comes to the war in Iraq or the war on terror.
So they have to go out and they get the poor people like Cindy Sheehan and elevate them and cause all kinds of left-wing freaks to go down there and join them and try to make this thing look bigger than it is.
And that's what I object to.
That's what I criticize.
Then and by the way, the media has freedom of speech too.
The media has access to the First Amendment, but so the hell do I. And if they are gonna go down there and run down their country, if they're gonna make every effort they can to disparage this country, its leadership, and its armed forces, then by God, I'm gonna stand up and disparage them because I disagree with them and I have every access to the Constitution that they do.
And for you to call here and say, well, well, what should we do?
They we have they have to have I'm nobody that I know has taken one Step to stop these people from doing what they're doing.
But the mainstream press and these people are attempting to influence the hearts and minds of the American people.
Well, so am I. And I'm trying to make sure that the American people that hear me know what I think about what these protesters and their cohorts in the media are doing so that they can make up their own minds about things.
And I also have confidence in the fact that the media is overplaying its hand on all of these cases and creating a backlash against itself and their champions.
And I also know that 20 or 25 years ago this would not be the case.
Twenty or twenty-five years ago, this kind of stuff, and even longer.
You go back to the Vietnam War, this kind of stuff worked.
This kind of stuff gave us Jane Fonda's.
This kind of stuff gave us John Carey's.
This kind of stuff gave us people who are actively seeking the defeat of the United States.
Now that crosses the line as far as I'm concerned.
We don't deserve defeat.
We were attacked on 911.
We were minding our business and we were bothering nobody.
And the action is being taken right now is to see to it that we can do what we can, that something like that doesn't happen again.
It is not for oil.
It is not for any of the kooky conspiracy theories that the people in that ditch in Texas want you to believe.
Especially when you consider the people in that ditch think that God's greatest gift to America has been Bill Clinton.
I want to vomit.
We'll be back.
Hi, welcome back.
Rush Limbaugh, calm, cool, collected, serving humanity behind the golden EIB microphone.
Chris in Cleveland, you're next.
Nice to have you on the program.
Rush Mega Buckeye Ditto's from the North Coast.
Thank you.
Hey, I I prayed for this lady.
I I I think her loss is tremendous.
We have a son that's on a second tour in Iraq.
And I can't even imagine, I hope never to imagine how she feels.
However, that being said, she's doing a terrible disservice to our country, I believe, in the fact that this is playing right into the terrorists' hands.
This is what they like.
They feed off publicity like this.
They like this, and they are terrorists, by the way.
They're not insurgents.
These are the same things.
Chris, hang on just a second here.
I understand what you're saying, but let me ask you, let me give you a different scenario.
Let's say that Cindy Sheehan gets what she wants.
She's just a single mom in a chair outside Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas.
There's no media there, and there are no supporters there, and there's no rabble rousers there.
Is she hurting anybody?
It's sort of like it's it's sort of like if if if a tree falls in the forest and you're not there, does your wife say you're still wrong?
That's right.
Right.
I well interested.
What if she expect what's going to happen?
You know.
Well, um I understand that she I yeah, that's true.
There's there's there's no question, but when I you you you're you're saying that she she's uh earning and deserves some of the culpability here.
Absolutely.
Uh like I said, I who am I to say something bad about it?
It's I'm splitting it.
And God bless your son and the service.
But by the same token, I think I speak for some people, and I speak from ourselves here in our family, that uh, hey, this this feeds right into the terrorists' hands.
And our media is doing, it's like the Vietnamese dance all over again.
Watched it, did it saw this happen.
Well, amen.
And now, okay, now we're on the same page.
You're making you're making my point.
And there's an agenda behind this.
Right, exactly.
Okay, I think she's she's just doing a terrible disservice to the servicemen that are still serving our men and women over there.
And I don't I don't think she realizes that.
Well, she may not gotta give her the benefit of the doubt.
I I uh I also, you know, you you um uh you wonder the the soldiers in Iraq, are they affected by this?
Have you have you asked your son, is he affected by any of this kind of thing?
He tells us, he said when he was home uh the last time he he looks at the media and he just shakes his head.
He goes, My God, he said, don't just listen to what I give back to your mails, emails, whatever.
It's different over here than it is now.
He's been over a month and a half and it's different.
Has it shaken his morale while he's over the not at all?
No, they know what they're doing, they know why they're there, they see the the improvements of the people, they see a different he sees a completely different state of events going on than he did a year ago.
There's There's two reasons for that.
There are two reasons why it's not this doesn't shake his morale or uh the morale of the others.
And that is that for every C Cindy Sheehan and the hundred or two hundred squatters that are with her.
There are one to two million Americans that support the troops and are letting them know via email, regular mail, support of however uh you can imagine they're hearing about it from us.
They know.
The second thing is they uh don't don't think for a moment they are not as part of their training made aware that war today causes this kind of rift in the American population.
Uh and and uh so it's not it's not a surprise to them.
It's part of their uh part of their training, and uh they're focused on the mission, and that's that's the glorious thing every time we hear from one of them.
Uh that's the inescapable conclusion that you draw.
And of course, that just rings bells of joy because you know when the people trying to destroy the morale learn that they're failing, it makes them even more miserable.
But then that starts the cycle, because the more miserable they get, the more miserable they want everybody else to feel.
And so that starts the cycle all over again of trying to spread that misery.
And so they gin up their protests and they uh they do all these things.
But at any rate, I uh I'm glad you call Chris.
Thanks much.
Uh this is Debbie in Indianapolis, named after Indians, and is the headquarters of the NCAA.
Welcome to the program.
Hey, Raj, we come from a super mega ditto's how cold when my 13-year-old was born, she said ditto before she could say mom.
I am a mom, by the way, but stand for the future of America.
Absolutely.
I'm a mom, which stands for mother of a marine, and I'm looking for a bumper sticker that says, Your son got an A in college, my son got a purple heart in Iraq.
His vehicle ran over a landmine twice in one day.
And we always we talk about if something would happen to my son, I would never dishonor him.
I'm sorry, I'm gonna get emotional on this.
I would never dishonor his actions by doing what this woman's doing.
My son volunteered to join Marines when he was 18 years, one month and ten days old on September twelfth.
He announced he was joining the Marines after he saw the Twin Towers fall.
When his first orders to Iraq were canceled, he told us that Bush better not pull out before I got get there.
He knew it was something that needed done.
He's going back for his second tour next month.
What's doing?
It's not only dishonoring her son, she's dishonoring mine.
Uh Debbie, I I can't I can't thank you enough for calling.
Uh and I I can't thank you enough for uh doing another thing.
Uh you have just spoken for the vast majority of Americans in your call.
You have just echoed exactly what they think.
God bless you.
Thanks so much for the call.
I hope so.
Thank you.
You have trust me on this.
You are far more a voice, a representative voice of the people of this country, than any of the rabble-rousing malcontents that are being given airtime in a failed attempt to destroy the policy by the mainstream press.
Trust me.
It it hurts me that she's sending the message that it seems like her son died for nothing.
He didn't die for nothing.
He died in the United States Armed Forces.
There is nothing more honorable than that.
These these kids volunteered.
They were not yanked from their cradle by an evil government to send them someplace they didn't want to go.
My son knew on September 12th he was going over.
My son knew what was in store for him, and my son stepped up to the plate.
The caller you had on Monday who was talking about, gee, how come the senators' kids aren't volunteering if the war's so great?
We're not going to talk about if the war's so great.
Let's talk about these kids who are great who stepped up to the plate and said, you know what?
I need to do something About this.
There's something bigger than me out there.
Exactly right.
Debbie, thank you again.
You just heard it.
Debbie in Indianapolis, the voice of this country.
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