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July 21, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 21, 2005, Thursday, Hour #3
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The views expressed by the host on this program documented to be, according to the latest opinion audit in the Sullivan Group in Sacramento, California, almost always right ninety-eight point five percent of the time.
And this is done, by the way, with half my brain tied behind my back, just to make it fair.
Greetings, my friends.
It's great to be back with you.
The uh Rush Lindbaugh program rolls on.
We will be getting to your phone calls uh in a few minutes.
The telephone number is 800 two eight two two eight eight two.
But as promised, and I'm really excited to have him with us, Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania is here.
Senator, welcome.
Well, Rush, thank you for having me on.
It's an honor to be with you.
Well, I tell you what I uh it's the same thing with Bernie Goldberg uh that we had on uh uh an hour ago.
I you you're you're being you're being sandbagged and you're being ganged up on uh not only by your colleagues in the Senate, a couple of them, but by uh by members of the of the media as well.
I w I watched, I've seen you on television uh and uh uh hosts who are afraid that they might be called conservatives are withholding judgment on you, claiming you've stepped over the line or something, and I it offends me.
I I know you personally, and I I uh I I know you're nothing but a decent man who's being honest about what's in your heart.
Now the the two things I gather, one is your book, uh It Takes a Family, Conservatism and the Common Good, which apparently is upset Ms. Rodham.
And the other thing is uh you've said something that upset Senator Kennedy uh about about Boston, and you haven't backed off on either of these, and that's to your credit.
But I wanted to personally find out from you what is all this about and what what what is what do you think the genesis of all of this attention you're getting now is all about?
Well, I I mean uh I'm I'm in a tough race uh in in two thousand six and uh uh you know uh your good friend Chuck Schumer uh has uh has said that uh my good friend your good friend has said that uh that this uh that that uh this race is the most important race in the in the in the country and that uh uh their success will be measured as to whether they uh they defeat Rick Santorm.
And so they've got every gun trained at us, and everything uh I've said or done or uh you know is uh is fair game.
And you know, this uh uh this r this one uh thing that Kennedy came after me on was something that wrote I wrote three years ago.
And uh they uh the Democratic Senatorial Committee gent you know got it up.
They uh they gave the quote to Kennedy, they uh they they announced to all the press uh that Kennedy was going to the floor, and then after he went to the floor and said what he said, they they had his comments immediately available, oddly enough, uh to uh to send around to all the media and have been hyping it ever since.
And uh, you know, I it's uh it's not it's not a surprise to me.
They've been they've been coming after us pretty hard.
Uh, do they quote you accurately or take it out of context?
Well they take it out of context.
I mean, I I I spend the first har half of the article talking about how outraged I am at this uh at the abuse and and how uh this is an opportunity up for us to clean the church up that uh you know there were a lot of things, a lot of a lot of systematic problems within the church that we need to do.
Uh and and uh let's take advantage of this opportunity.
And I look I was very much out front on this.
I've I I met and uh I went all around the country, met with bishops and cardinals and others, you know, trying to get the message across, including folks in the Vatican, that this is something we should not trifle with.
This is something that that needed to a strong statement and strong policy and new policies, and worked with the Keating Commission, uh, which was uh put together by uh um uh you know by by the Catholic bishops to try to to try to deal with this problem.
So, you know, look this is uh uh this was something I was very, very concerned about, and and uh they took this out of context and um you know uh what I said was frankly nothing different than what uh what Bob Bennett said, who wrote the Bennett report for for the for the bishop's conference.
You basically said almost exactly what I said, which is the culture affects people's behavior.
Is that Uncle Bob uh Bill Bennett's brother?
That's the that's exactly right.
Uncle Bob, so you agree with Uncle Bob on this.
Well, what exactly is the quote that Ted Kennedy used?
I uh here I can paraphrase it for you, and this will just show you the power of the media.
This is I've only heard about this from the media, and the uh I gather the the the essence of what you said is is that it's no surprise that the center of the Catholic church abuse took place uh in a very liberal or the perhaps the nation's most liberal uh area, Boston.
Is that close to what you said?
That's pretty much what I said.
I said it's no excuse, but I said it's no surprise that that you know that that the culture affects people's behavior.
Uh that's what I was saying, and this was candidly a a culture that you know, the liberal culture, the, you know, uh uh, you know, the uh the idea that uh you know sexual inhibitions uh should be you know put aside and people should be able to do whatever they want to do uh has an impact on people and how they behave.
Senator, you've encountered something that uh I'm sure you encounter all the time.
The worst thing you can do, well, not the worst, the most dangerous thing you can do is tell the truth about these people.
Well, you know, they they they don't like to be challenged.
Uh let's just let's just be very honest about that.
And uh and you know, when when they are challenged and and you actually look at the consequences of of their ideology uh and you see how what how it impacts people's lives and and uh and and how it impacts families, uh you know, you uh you get people very upset.
That's why when I wrote this book, it takes a family.
I mean, that's that's what I do.
I lay it out in very very clear terms about what liberal ideology has has done to uh to destroy the American family and we have to have a a concerted effort in this country to try to help rebuild the traditional family because that's that's the ideal we should all strive for.
Now, a question.
You what in the article about the Catholic Church, uh you could have stopped after you said uh a community will be reflected by its culture.
Uh you could have not mentioned Boston.
You could have not mentioned the uh the Catholic Church location, their cardinal laws problems.
Well, you you did.
Now were you challenging them?
Did you want to get noticed, or were you just completing an honest thought in this process?
Uh you know, uh I I I wish I could recall back three years ago when I wrote it, but exactly what I was thinking at the time.
I think I was expressing probably what a lot of Catholics were feeling at the time, outrage at the diocese, uh and outrage at at what had gone on up there for so long, both at the top and and candidly, not just at the top, not just at the level of the of the cardinal there, but also, you know, at the seminaries, also at the at uh at the at the church level where we just simply uh did not do a good job.
They did not do a good job in in screening people, they did not do a good job in in forming uh priests or forming uh period uh the the the Catholics uh in that area and and that was a great frustration because I felt I mean I felt betrayed as a Catholic.
I felt hurt.
I felt that, you know, this is my faith, which I strongly believe in, and it was being dragged through the mud, as you know at that time, just every single day.
It was it was perfectly Oh, it still is.
Well, it still is, but uh but at that time, I mean it was it was headline news every day, you know, how how awful the Catholic Church was, and I just felt very angry at at people who had allowed that to happen to a faith that I, you know, uh fully embrace.
Let me Senator, I mean I mean I must be honest with you.
It's it's uh I think it's just as vicious.
It's just it's changed its direction from the uh the abuse aspect.
I mean, you look at every sub every potential Supreme Court nominee or appellate court nominee who may be Catholic or is Catholic, there is a subtle, you know, you can my friend Chuck Schumer, as you say, or others will come out and question the personal, deeply held personal beliefs that you know that it's that's a reference to religion.
And when you call them on it, they have the same conniptions fit that Senator Kennedy had uh with your article.
And it's all about abortion and it's all about the Catholic Church lack of rigidity and accommodating what liberals want it to be.
So I think they're they're there's there it's it's still the only religion today that the you know Christianity in general that you can make fun of with impunity.
Well, they certainly do, and it'd be interesting.
Uh, you know, as you know, uh uh Judge Roberts is a Catholic.
And uh, you know, we'll we'll find out whether the deeper religious beliefs issue will be coming up at these hearings.
LA Times already has a profile on his wife, wife of nominee holds strong anti-abortion views.
Yes, the red flags going up.
Wasn't the LA diocese uh Cardinal Mahoney, wasn't that i in nearly as bad a shape as a we don't know the full extent yet of Los Angeles, but you know, what we're what we're hearing is that it it may be.
Well, you have another liberal community there is my point.
What's that?
You got another liberal community there.
Oh, not just that, but you also have candidly, I mean you you know the the leadership there has not been been good.
And uh, you know, it's it's it's been the kind of in my opinion, the kind of weak leadership that we've seen in uh some of the other dioceses that that we've had problems.
So it's it's uh it's it's both.
Uh it's you know, it's it's not any uh one of the things I think uh I make clear in the article, uh the excerpts don't make clear, which is it's not one thing.
I'm not saying that that is the reason.
I I went through a whole variety of different things that that cause this problem and and and and a big part of it is the lack of leadership uh in in the church and the and a uh and and a refusal to address these issues at the seminaries and other levels.
You have five more minutes.
I just want to ask you a lot of you, you got it.
Well, I think I want to ask you about the Hillary uh uh contra attempts.
I think I'm gonna like this too.
We'll be back in just a second.
This Senator Rick Santorum from Pennsylvania with us.
And don't go away, folks, be right back.
And we're back and we uh uh happily uh happily rejoined Senator Rick Santorm from Pennsylvania.
Senator I just found a story here and I actually uh I saw this last night and I printed it out and I forgot to uh uh bring it in today but I just found it again.
And just it's gonna in just want to share with you the headline because it's it's funny.
It's from Berkeley uh it's San Francisco Chronicle activists start working on liberal spirituality.
It's about time.
And we will uh have details of this when we'll finish the interview with uh with Senator Santoram now the the the story in Newsmax says that Hillary Clinton was seething over your um uh well the New York Post says it was a frosty encounter with uh with you uh she paused during a Capitol Hill interview with a post reporter to let out a week's worth of pent up frustration about your new book It Takes a Family Conservatism and the Common Good.
Did this happen?
And if so what happened?
Well uh I you know I was uh walking uh in the basement of the Capitol building and uh Mrs. Clinton uh was coming toward me and had a whole bunch of reporters sort of a gaggle of folks uh around her and I was walking by myself and uh I she saw me uh from you know uh maybe fifteen paces apart and she uh uh she uh said you know uh you know now remember Rick uh it it takes a village uh which sort of surprised me that you would engage on on that topic and
I I said uh no uh Hillary it it takes a family and at that point we had we had just passed each other so I I thought you know you know tort retort if you will and and that was it and then uh the next thing I know I hear sort of in the uh you know coming over my shoulder uh you know no the family is part of the village uh which uh I decided at that point to sort of break off negotiations and move on.
Uh again you must have really hit the I I was surprised that it evoked the uh I mean she I she obviously knew that this was uh a public comment because she had she was in the middle of interview obviously and had a lot of reporters around her so I I assume as uh you have said very often that uh that you know people don't that that those folks don't do anything by uh by mistake it's all by design.
Yeah nothing is nothing is by accident by accident.
Strategie I mean they even have meetings to find out what they believe, Senator.
You know they'll have three hour meetings to find out what they believe and they'll come out empty handed.
They'll say they didn't made some headway but they're not yet ready to announce anything and it all depends on what their focus groups tell them they should believe or something else.
Yeah the New York Times magazine was pretty clear on that the story over the weekend where uh this is all about uh framing the message to uh to to try to destroy the Republicans on abusing power and and providing absolutely no ideas, absolutely no solutions, absolutely no alternatives it's just simply you know search and destroy.
Well let me ask you your book is four hundred and forty nine pages and uh you homeschooling uh welfare reform uh and you really emphasize the uh uh promotion of family uh over uh big government and I I assume that's what Mrs Clinton means by village, right?
That's that was my interpretation having uh uh seen her voting record and skimmed her book um so four hundred and forty nine pages where do you find time to write a book like this with everything else that you're doing well I I I spent about a year and a half on the book to be honest with you and uh the last uh I guess from November end of November through April spent uh spent a lot of time uh you know uh I thank my wife and my children for their tolerance uh but I I did a lot of it frankly when they were sleeping late at night I just stayed up and and and hammered away at it.
I had a lot of folks as you read the preface uh I had a lot of folks who helped me who uh you know contributed ideas and thoughts and uh and and outlines and stuff so it was a collaborative effort.
I you know I can't take responsibility for every word there but we I work very hard on it and I think um people who have read it so far who know me um say they hear my voice in it so that's that's a good thing.
Well what do you make of the cozying up to Mrs. Clinton that some Republican senators have done or maybe it's in a way or is she cozying up to them Or is it mutual?
I think that uh what's what's happening is, you know, uh uh an attempt to uh to to you know find this centrist ground that uh that her husband found and uh when he was running for office and uh and try to uh try to portray a a sense of uh you know being in touch with all the values that uh uh that people are concerned about.
I I think from the uh two thousand four election they've learned a lesson that you can't uh you can't run a fa a values free campaign and win in America.
People and it doesn't necessarily mean, you know, a constitutional amendment for uh uh for you know uh uh uh affirming marriage.
I mean it's values like you know, not not knowing that your children are growing up in a society that's hostile to them, that that parents aren't safe to uh you know to let their kids turn on a television anymore.
It's it's this uneasiness that the culture isn't there or the government isn't there uh or no one.
The popular culture, the media, academia, no one's there to to help them raise their children.
They're all out there trying to send messages that these parents don't want to send to their kids.
And it's that kind of values that I think most people are talking about, and the Democrats have been ignorant of it and they're trying to tap into it without really doing anything about it.
They're just gonna talk about it.
Uh sort of school uniforms, if you will.
Well, uh maybe I I may be going overboard here and what you as a member of that body can answer uh and because it might be construed as commenting on another Senator, and I know you have rules about that, but is um is it your impression as observ uh as an observer that Mrs. Clinton is succeeding in this effort to uh look uh more quote unquote centrist on values?
Well uh all I would s suggest is that if uh you know if you're trying to move to the trying to move and reposition yourself, having everybody talk about you doing it's probably not the best thing to do.
You know, it's you you sort of uh you sort of lose the effect of uh of of trying to appear sincere if uh everybody is talking about how you're planning on doing this.
So I I I I'll leave it to uh I'll leave it to the public as to whether they they buy it, but I think the fact that that it seems like such a deliberate attempt uh might rob the uh the it might sort of lessen the sincerity factor.
Senator, one more thing before I let you go, unrelated uh uh we're looking now at the Supreme Court uh uh fight that's coming up on Judge Roberts.
This takes me back to the uh campaign uh that Senator Spector waged and a lot of people don't understand uh why the President of the United States uh supported Senator Spector uh as an incumbent.
They don't understand, I think, the traditions.
And likewise they don't understand uh uh the the president campaigning for Link Chafey and helping him raise money when Link Chafee didn't even support him for president.
Could you help people listening to this program understand how that works?
I mean we're talking about Pat Toomey and and uh uh a lot of people think you know issues come first and what's in your heart ideologically should determine it.
But what are the traditions that govern a president in in in this kind of uh oh quagmire if you're yeah, I I I think what what the president sees is he's the leader of a team and the team has a lot of different members on it and uh you know, all of which you know contribute to the team uh and and all of which are important to the team.
And what what I think the president is trying to say is if if he's gonna go as he does, as I do as a member of the leadership to uh to members of the team and ask for their vote for the team sometimes against their interest.
Uh in a sense when I say against their interest, they may not ideologically agree with this.
Uh I can tell you there are many, many votes uh where uh we're we're where folks who don't necessarily agree with us on things realize that for the president's agenda for moving for for being a governing majority, uh sometimes you gotta suck it up and and and and and give one for the team.
That happens with regularity on the floor of the United States Senate.
I think the president recognizes that.
I recognize that and if you're gonna ask folks to be part of the team, then when it's their time, you know, to stand up and and fight for their political survival, you can't say, well, you know, uh I needed you then, but you know, you're on your own now.
I I I don't think the president would have a uh uh would have a very easy time convincing other members who may not agree with him all the time to support him ever.
Uh if it looks like that the president when uh he has the opportunity will cut him cut them loose and not not you know not be a a good loyal team member uh in in their own election.
So what is incumbency Trumps in in circumstances like this simply because that means there's an existing relationship?
Well it's not just relationship, but it's it's the ability to uh to be able to get folks to to to help when you know maybe they don't want to help.
And they do that because they realize that they're part of something bigger than themselves.
Now, uh that to me is is uh you know is important to be able to have that kind of relationships.
It is relationships, but it's also getting things done.
And it's getting things done that are conservative, it's getting things done that move America in the right direction that you know Harlem Specter or or Olympia Snow or Susan Collins may not agree with, but they'll help us on procedural votes, they'll help us on other votes where you know maybe three will vote against, but you know, one or two that we need will vote for us so we can get it done.
Senator I have to do it.
I have to stop you.
I lost control of the clock.
I've got ten seconds, and I don't want to thank I want to thank you properly for joining us.
I appreciate your making the uh the time.
We admire you here, many people in this audience do, and we wish you the continued best.
Thank you.
You bet.
We'll be back in just a second, folks.
Stay with us.
Yes, my friends, we are back.
Happy to have you with us here on the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
All right.
Before we get back to your phone calls, and I've got a couple things here in the stack I want to get to before we finish today.
I uh of course am departing at uh actually uh uh before tomorrow, sometime tonight.
Can't be specific about this security, you know.
But I'm departing uh for a uh a uh brief time off.
I'll be off tomorrow through all of next week.
And a portion of the trip uh I'm going to a part of France I've never been.
Uh I've always wanted to go, and it's it's gonna be I'm just gonna go.
But this is I'm gonna be going in a lot of places in Europe, but I have to tell you the the what what is uh uh aside from the vacation aspect of it, and one of our sponsors here is Comp USA.
And Comp USA is is like Christmas morning for gadgets and gizmos and technology.
I had a meeting with the with the CEO and the advertising people uh from Comp USA a couple weeks ago.
They they came here and they met with us out in our plush uh living room area here at the EIB South Southern Command Complex.
They had this gadget that they were all excited about and they gave me one, and it's called a sling box.
And the name does not imply anything similar to what this thing does.
What this does is allows you to watch your TiVo or your cable TV or whatever video source you want on your laptop anywhere in the world if you have a high speed connection.
So we were busy all last week when they were here, but we finally got around to hooking it up this week.
Uh and I've got it connected to the TiVo here, and we tested it and it works out.
It it's right now it's only Windows compatible.
Uh but we worked on it, tested it out.
You do need a high speed connection, be wireless or or Ethernet.
But the great thing about this, and I you could use this, I guess, even if you're uh in the country, uh watch your own TiVo if you're gonna record things while you're gone.
You can control every aspect of the Ti-Vo or any aspect, uh any function of uh whatever video device you hook this thing to.
So uh next week, uh when I am away in Europe, and let's say some news happens.
I don't want to watch CN International.
You ever traveled internationally, and it's all you get is CN International, and you get ESPN de Porto, which is nothing but soccer 24-7.
Who cares?
Uh so if something big happens, if you just want to catch up on the news, turn on your TV from France or wherever you happen to be, and you can watch it whenever you've recorded or watch it live.
It's not HD compatible yet, but that's coming too.
Uh right now they um they've just got it set for um uh the 480.
So if you have an HD TV, it'll still work with that, but you gotta set the uh uh resolution to 480.
Was it DPI uh Brian 480?
Was it the number 480?
Yeah, 40 DPI.
That's it that that'll give you a good picture on it.
But I'm just amazed by it.
I I I think this is amazing.
Um it's the picture is superb and all these functions that uh you have with your TVO, you have anywhere.
Uh the only thing is you need you need a high speed connection.
If you don't have that, you'll get a choppy piece of video and so forth.
But it carries the closed captioning if you use that.
Uh carries the audio.
Uh you could as Brian, you can connect it to the radio if you wanted to.
Uh and and have it give you whatever radio stations or programs that you wanted to listen to overseas while you're good.
It's a fascinating thing.
It's like two hundred and fifty-nine bucks.
And uh, you know, you do have to have an internet connection, it goes in the back of your uh uh TiVo.
Or and if you don't have that, there's a way of bridging it.
It's not a simple install.
I don't want to mislead you.
It's not something you can do yourself in five or ten minutes, but you can do it yourself.
And it doesn't take too long, but uh it's and it's very clear that the instructions are quite I mean, I could figure it out.
Uh so you can, but it's just a this is a fascinating thing.
And I'll be back on uh August 1st, which is our anniversary.
Sling box, Brian, and so that's what it's slingbox, is what it's called.
Uh and it's only been out a month.
It has only been out one month.
Well, no, I'm not gonna be watching the Sopranos, uh, Sopranos is not on right now.
Uh if I was gonna watch Sopranos, I'd take DVDs.
But no, like my lawyer Roy Black's new TV show starts a week from tonight.
Uh his it's called the law firm.
It's uh one of these reality shows based on like the the Trump's apprentice, only its lawyers.
And uh, you know, I'll I'll be able to watch that.
No way will that be on television over in Europe.
Uh I'll be able to watch that.
Whatever I want to watch, if I want to.
But that's the I mean, I'm not not going over there to watch television, it's not the point.
I'm saying, like, there looks like a hurricane's forming right out there in the Bahamas, you guys.
Have you have you seen this?
It's just a wave right now, but I mean, if you look at the satellite, you can say, well, you know, I'm gonna be leaving if I want to see if a hurricane destroyed my house.
Uh while I'm in Europe, I'll be able to turn on the weather channel.
Snerdley's not smiling.
It looks snerdily, like if it does form as a hurricane, it w it's it's gonna miss us.
Uh, but it's it's close.
I mean, just call it call up the goes floater number two, the loop, and watch this thing.
You can see go the floater satellite.
Back to the phones now, Cliff in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Welcome, sir.
Nice to have you on the program.
Rush.
It's an honor talking to you, sir.
Thank you very much, sir.
Lock on listeners since I guess 92.
Well, I'm happy that you've been here that long, and uh, hope you're here as long as we are.
Hey, I noticed um it's an article in the LA Times that kind of opens the it's maybe the opening salvo.
It's not really a hit piece, but it opens up the issue of uh John Roberts' wife's views on abortion.
Not his, his wife.
And uh she's apparently with uh an organization called Feminists for Life of America.
Yes.
Which is actually anti-abortion, in spite of the sound of the name.
And I I'm just wondering how long it'll take before this and other things.
No, no, no.
Let me, you you're you're you're wrong.
You're saying this is not a hit piece.
Uh it's not written as a hit piece, but it's designed to be one.
Uh uh let me let me translate this for you.
What's going on is well, you can't expect a nominee to answer questions about uh specific cases, Roe versus Wade.
Well, you can't you can't demand these uh judges answer the Well, me may not have to, his wife.
Look at his wife, she's a big pro-lifer.
That gives us a little indication where he is.
And so this is this is this is just designed to work up the lib opposition of the guy.
This you know, the the libs, you may not know it, but these people are dispirited.
They're losing.
They didn't keep any of those three judges off the uh circuit court they wanted off.
They haven't succeeded in much of anything here.
Um and they're frustrated.
And now Bush is nominated this guy Roberts, and and they're saying, we don't know anything about him.
There's no way to go attack him.
Oh, woe is us, what are we gonna do?
Uh don't even think we can filibuster this guy.
Aha, looky here, his wife.
Here's the headline, wife of nominee holds strong anti-abortion views.
While Supreme Court nominee John Roberts Jr.'s view on abortion triggered intense debate on Capitol Hill Wednesday, there's no mistaking where his wife stands.
Jane Sullivan Roberts, a lawyer is ardently against abortion, a Roman Catholic like her husband.
That's code.
You have to know how to read the code.
Jane Roberts has been deeply involved in the anti-abortion movement.
She provides her name, money, and professional advice to a small Washington organization, feminists for life of America, that offers counseling and educational programs.
The group has filed legal briefs before the high court challenging the constitutionality of abortion.
This is most definitely a hit piece, Cliff.
I mean, this is you do have to know how to translate it, but this is this is the red flag being waved to every liberal in this country.
Okay, we we know who we got.
Okay, it's time to march.
It's time to run the ads.
It's time to launch the salvo.
It's time to take these people out.
We can't trust them.
Look at his wife.
She's a wacko too.
And then they're gonna say, you know, these two just look too wholesome.
Why don't we get a guy with a beard like Bork?
Why don't we get somebody with a mustache like Bolton?
Why didn't Bush nominate somebody we can make fun of the way they look?
So they can't do that, but now they'll make fun of their clean, wholesome family life.
Did you see did you see his wife uh at the White House on uh on Tuesday night?
Right there wearing that Jackie Kennedy outfit.
And did you see the little boy wearing a saddle shoes and the shorts and so forth?
I mean, you go out and attack this family, you're gonna be you're gonna be taking a risk.
Because this is uh this is a pretty wholesome looking family.
Jennifer Palmyri, a spokeswoman for the Center for American Progress, which is it's a lib group, it uh actually that be called the Center for American Regression.
Uh it's unclear how all of this will affect her husband, said Jennifer Palmyri.
It's possible that he would have a different view than her.
It's just that in the absence of information about this guy, people are looking at her trying to read the tea leaves.
Well now, we could have some fun with this.
We can have some good old-fashioned stereotypical fun.
We could say, hey, he's a husband.
He has no views until he talks to his wife.
Hey, he has to ask his wife what his views are.
You know, but the bottom line here is, folks, that uh you you have wholesome family right cut right from the mainstream in the heartland of this country, and that is evoking fear, palpable fear in the minds and hearts of the American left, and it's just pathetic.
And now go they're subtly attacking this woman as a means of getting to uh to her husband on the basis that she's pro-life.
I still to this day do not understand why they think they have a winning position with a majority of Americans when they come out against anybody who is for life.
And make no mistake, this business is life versus choice.
You know what?
I once ran a test on this very program.
I had some feminists on the phone.
I said, you know what, I've changed my mind.
I am pro-choice.
Really?
Well, that's great.
What caused you what what what what what what changed your mind?
He said, Well, nothing.
I've always been pro-choice.
I choose life.
Well, that's not pro-choice.
I said, aha, caught you.
Pro-choice isn't pro-choice.
You better choose the right side of it, or you're not pro-choice.
Pro-choice is simply another code label.
Pro abortion.
Pro-choice is simply to make it sound a little softer.
But make no mistake, this is a hit piece.
They're gunning for the guy via his wife.
And she's fair game, they'll say, 'cause she's a lawyer too.
We'll be back after this, folks.
Don't go away.
They just got the the funniest and the cutest Club Gitmo picture.
Two two kids uh from Lexington, Kentucky, uh, made a a model of Club Gitmo with Legos.
Uh and took a picture of themselves sitting next to them.
It's huge.
It's on the floor of their house.
And it's uh we have we're in the process of posting it uh on the website now.
Uh but it's um they're they're wearing a Gitmo t-shirts.
They built a club gitmo model with their Legos and blocks.
It's all labeled, the picture is all labeled to show you where the uh the swimming pool is and the observation deck uh and the guest SUV is and it's funny as it can be.
We'll post the picture as soon as we I'm sure Coco's working it.
It's there now.
Okay, Coco assures me that that picture is part of the photo gallery, the Club Gitmo photo gallery.
I've been referencing this all day, so let me mention this to you.
Uh the the Howard Feynman M SNBC piece.
Uh George W. Bush keeps surprising the wise guys.
They keep thinking that he's gonna be something other than what he is, and he'll do something other than what he says he'll do.
But uh he doesn't.
Bush likes to pull surprises, but only on matters of timing.
Uh George Bush hides in plain sight, a tactic that works here.
Washington, since everybody else always assumes the game is all about misdirection.
They expect every you know, they they they admired Bill Clinton for his deceit.
His ability to fool people.
They marveled at it.
And here's Clinton, uh, or Bush rather, uh, visible in plain sight, doing what he says he's gonna do.
And he predictably does what he says he's gonna do, and they still can't figure him out.
And they're the ones that say he's the dunts.
And that they're the smart guys uh uh in the room.
Grab line, let me grab Ryan line two here, uh, really quickly if we could.
Uh let me go to Maya in Tampa.
Maya, are you there?
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi, Rod.
Thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
Um I uh was a little concerned when I heard uh Senator Centorum make what I think was a connection between liberalism or a more liberal city having um a priest who was molesting children, and I'm just wondering if if you can try to further explain that to me, because I'm a little shocked at what he said.
Well, uh I'm I don't have a problem understanding.
I think I know what he meant.
Uh he's not saying that liberalism equals abuse of children uh by priests or anybody else.
What he's saying is that you have a culture up in Boston, which is predominantly the liberal mecca of this country.
And one of the characteristics of that culture and liberalism is it's as Bernard Goldberg said earlier, it's non-judgmentalism.
Nobody's really wrong when they do anything.
Who are we to judge what's right and wrong?
What right do we have to impose our morality on anyone?
And when you have a non-judgmental culture when nobody's willing to look at something and say that's just wrong, uh, then it it simply lowers the guardrails and the uh impediments uh and enables that kind of behavior to go unchecked, uh, and perhaps unseen.
Uh because those people live there thinking they get away with this, nobody's gonna judge me.
And if they then I'm even if I get caught, nobody's gonna be really upset with me about this because uh it's they don't think it's their right to be upset with it.
I can live my life and do what I want to do.
Uh and I think that's that's the the characteristic here that not just Senator Santorum, but a lot of people have with liberalism is it's totally unwilling to have standards.
Uh totally unwilling to say this is right and this is wrong.
And boy, if somebody tries to do that, and the libs come back at you, oh, you're just a simpleton.
You see everything in black and white.
You don't understand the nuance.
You don't understand the possibilities that led to this.
You don't understand the socioeconomic circumstances that we must understand.
It's just like terrorism.
We got liberals want to ask terrorists, why do you hate us?
What can we do to change so that you won't like they will not judge the terrorists as bad guys?
Howard Dean, well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna rush to judgment on uh on uh Osama bin Laden's guilt.
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.
Nobody comes to Tom DeLay, guilty.
Carl Rove, guilty.
Because the one thing liberals are judgmental about is conservatism.
That is a crime.
Conservatism is wrong.
Republicanism is wrong, and they make no bones about that.
But when it comes to their own behavior, nobody's business.
And there's always some explanation for it.
So I don't think Senator Santorum's saying liberalism equals pedophilia.
I think he's saying liberalism creates the circumstances where depravity can flourish.
Whatever that depravity may be.
We'll be back after this.
Stay with us.
Okay, folks, I uh I can't get out of here uh without once again sharing with you the fact that uh many people have come to accept that the commercial that they're hearing during this program, uh George Soros slamming Carl Rove is real.
Uh Canadian journalist fell for it, wrote about it today.
We found it.
I have to come clean.
Uh, as you know, a woman in Norman, Oklahoma also fell for this.
This is ours.
We did it.
We illustrate absurdity by being absurd.
And I'm gonna miss being with all of you.
It'll be uh be back on Monday, August the first.
And I just want to also remind you when I'm gone, uh liberals might be more eager to take up uh arguments with you.
But fear not, ladies and gentlemen, understand what's happening.
The liberal picks a fight with you, the mediocre always throw stones at the brilliant.
Be confident, be cool, have a great time, and we'll be back on Monday, August 1st.
See you then.
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