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July 11, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 11, 2005, Monday, Hour #2
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It's America's Anchorman, America's truth detector, the doctor of democracy, back at it.
Broadcast excellence.
From now it'll uh well actually a whole week, but uh we have two hours remaining today.
And as is always the case, we put everything we have into these three hours.
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You've got to hear this soundbite this from yesterday on this week with George Stephanopoulos during the round table.
Former counter-terrorism czar Richard Clark was on the round table along with ABC News analyst Martha Raditz and the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, Richard Haas.
And this is what Clark had to say.
Well it tells you is that Iraq is not just a training ground, it's a motivator.
There'll obviously be some terrorists, even if we weren't in Iraq.
But I believe there are many more terrorists because we are in Iraq.
It's enough of a motivator that people are willing to go and risk their lives or lose their lives.
People who would otherwise just be sitting around in mosques somewhere complaining about all of this, because we are occupying Iraq still, are willing to go out and fight.
That's unbelievable.
Two things here.
One, isn't he sort of confirming the fly paper theory that the Libs tried to have fun blowing up uh all weekend long?
Number two, they just sitting around the mosques feeling bad otherwise.
If we weren't in Iraq, they'd just be sitting around the mosques somewhere complaining about all of this.
But because we're occupying Iraq still, they're willing to go out and fight.
I forgive me.
I I just I don't understand that I I literally don't understand the thinking.
There has to be a mindset here that causes this kind of thinking, and that is we're no good.
We deserve to lose.
We cause all this.
If we weren't doing any of this, there'd be some terrorists there, but uh mostly they'd just be sitting around the mosque complaining.
This guy used to run counter-terrorism in the Clinton and Bush administrations.
He knows that attacks occurred on Americans before we went to Iraq.
At some point we got to do something about it.
Do we not?
We just can't sit there and let them indiscriminately.
Do we want that kind of life?
Do we want to sit around and wait every two or three years?
A world trade center type blast to go off, and then we we go through the memorial, and we go through all the promises to get even and to let it go and don't do anything about it.
Is that how we want to live?
It sounds like it when you listen to people like Richard Clark.
Let's now contrast this with the president.
The president uh was at the FBI training academy in Quantico, Virginia uh this morning.
He spoke about the war on terror.
Here is a portion of his remarks.
This, I think the limbaugh echo syndrome here.
The terrorists want to attack our country and harm our citizens.
They believe that the world's democracies are weak.
And that by killing innocent civilians, they can break our will.
They're mistaken.
America will not retreat in the face of terrorists and murderers.
And neither will the free world.
As Prime Minister Blair said after the attacks in London, our determination to defend our values and our way of life is greater than their determination to cause death and destruction to innocent people.
The attack in London was an attack on the civilized world.
And the civilized world is united in its resolve.
We will not yield.
We will defend our freedom.
And the president continued here, once again explaining the strategy in Iraq.
We will keep the terrorists on the run until they have no place left to hide.
And the war on terror Iraq is now Central Front.
The terrorists fight in Iraq because they know that the survival of their hateful ideology is at stake.
They know that as freedom takes root in Iraq, it will inspire millions across the Middle East to claim their liberty as well.
And when the Middle East grows in democracy and prosperity and hope the terrorists will lose their sponsors.
They'll lose their recruits.
They will lose their hopes for turning that region into a base of attacks against America and our allies.
Now that is right on the money, and the uh the president uh uh made this comment again, he's at Quantico, Virginia at the FBI Training Academy.
And I just want you to contrast that with the attitude of Richard Clark uh and all the others is yeah, well, the reason we're in Iraq is why they're in Iraq and then they're killing us, and uh they'd otherwise just be sitting around planning to kill us, but now they're they're actually engaged in it because we're there and we ought to get out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Um personal note here to Coco Webmaster.
Coco, I want you to get this bite that I just played, audio soundbite number three, and I want you to go back last week when I had the call from um a young man, a liberal, who wanted to know uh what the long-term strategy was.
And I gave him an answer that is a much longer version of this.
But I want you to post those side by side.
The transcript of what I said in the audio as well, plus this this bite by the president, because it's what is really at stake, and it is why this is going to take a while, and it's what the objective is.
Uh, and that is to establish in that part of the world where there's nothing but a 14th century mindset.
Establish a 21st century mindset based on freedom.
Because we trust free people to act in their own self-interest.
We trust free people that they won't become terrorists and murderers and wackos and and thugs, dictators and the like.
Uh much rather trust basic human freedom.
Uh, and that's what the policy in Iraq is really all about.
And I'd like to have that reiterated in case those of you uh listening today, some of you may have missed last week's program.
Here's another example, I think Limbaugh Echo syndrome, because we have done this countless times, and we've put the evidence on our website.
Uh here is the president talking about World War II and Germany and Japan in particular.
The only way to make sure our country is secure in the long run is to advance the cause of freedom.
We have seen freedom conquer evil and secure the peace before.
World War II.
Free nations came together to fight the ideology of fascism and freedom prevailed.
And today, Germany and Japan are allies in securing the peace.
Today in the Middle East, freedom is once again contending with an ideology that seeks to sow anger and hatred and despair.
And like fascism and communism before, the hateful ideologies that use terror will be defeated by the unstoppable power of freedom and democracy.
Well, one of the right on, right on, right on.
What we can add to this is the, you know, we had the Life magazine, the New York Times stories that we have posted at various times on our website that showed just how challenging the post-war period was, particularly in Germany.
And we posted both the New York Times and Life magazine talking about how it would never work, how the U.S. soldier was hated, how we were despised, how random criminal acts were occurring because we were occupying these countries.
It's amazing when you read these stories from the mid-1940s and contrast them with the same publications today, Time magazine and the New York Times.
It's amazing.
It's like they went back to the 40s, got the basic shell of the story, rewrote it, changing only the names and the locales.
It is it's just stunning to see how defeatist the press was in Germany and our ability to revitalize Germany after World War II, and to a uh lesser extent Japan as well.
But the lesson to be learned is how long we were in Germany.
Well, we're still there with bases.
But we were there many, many moons, ladies and gentlemen, re-established that country as a democracy, which it has remained today.
Quick time out, we will be back.
In other words, we've done this before.
It can happen.
It is possible.
They were Nazis.
You know, these guys are the modern equivalent of who they were in uh the Germans were back in the in the forties.
It can be done.
But as long as we got people like Richard Clark.
Oh, before I go to the break, you've got it.
You you heard what the president just said.
Free nations can come together to fight the ideology of fascism and freedom.
Prevailed today in Germany and Japan are allies in securing the peace, blah, blah, blah.
You've got to hear this.
MSNBC did a little analysis of the president's speech right after it was over.
And they had Dana Priest, who is a reporter for the uh Washington Post.
And the host said, Now, we've been reporting the president's approval numbers have been flipping over the past couple of months.
One of the reasons, one of the main reasons why he was re-elected, poll show, is the Americans for the most Part felt like the president could do a better job protecting them from another attack.
And in fact, we heard the president say it again today.
He said we're going to continue to take this fight to the enemy.
But is London a little too close to home for people in America?
What do you think the impact, the fallout will be?
I do think that that is one of the reasons he gave the speech, because you're taking the fight to the enemy.
He's he's defined that as Iraq, which is very far away, and Afghanistan, which is very far away.
So I do think that uh people are going to want to know after all this time why you can't detect, even you can't even get warned about an attack as devastating as London.
Unfortunately, terrorism experts will tell you that is the nature of terrorism now.
It is more difficult to determine who's involved because as they killed off Al Qaeda l Al Qaeda leadership, which they did in the last three years, a new larger and more diffuse movement replaced it.
And that movement doesn't necessarily need to take its uh cues from Osama bin Laden or any of the leaders in London.
Okay, what do we do then, Dana?
Give up.
What do we do?
Blame ourselves and slap our wrist for causing it?
No, they keep throwing people at us, we keep coming at them.
We keep going back at them, and that's what we're gonna do.
This notion here that the reason the president gave the speech, because taking the fight to the enemies defined that as Iraq and Afghanistan.
No, he's not.
He's defined it as the war on terror, and we'll go wherever we have to go to stop it.
By the way, um I I hope that someday means Syria and Iran, but that's just me.
Just a little aside.
But this business, I think people are gonna want to know after all this time why you can't detect even you can't even get warned about an attack as devastating as London.
I can give you a partial reason.
We have pretty comprehensive Patriot Act, and they don't.
They Tony Blair tried for a very comprehensive Patriot Act and it was shot down.
So they don't, and in fact, they're they're you know the the it's it's it's kind of disheartening, but the Brits have actually asked us for assistance now in solving this.
They haven't a clue, folks.
They haven't a clue, but we do, and they're coming to us and asking for assistance.
They just they have not put in uh as part of their legal infrastructure a mechanism whereby they can identify and target potential suspects, uh, even detect potential suspects.
And there's a there's a huge difference.
I'm not saying that's the whole reason, but it's got to be a large factor.
A quick timeout now, and we will be back and return just a moment.
And the picture of 1st Sergeant Paul Joseph and the 983rd Engineer Battalion at Camp Ramadi in Iraq is up.
It has been renamed Club Gitmo East.
It's a picture of all the guys wearing their Club Gitmo gear at their camp in Ramadi.
And it's the first one in our Club Gitmo photo gallery.
Nice to have you.
This is the Rush Limbaugh program and the EIB network.
And here's Elizabeth in Melbourne, Florida.
Hi, I'm glad you called.
Thanks so much.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, just fine.
Thank you.
Great.
Um, my question was this.
Actually, I'm a huge fan.
I want to let you know that as well.
But my question is this um do you really feel like we're going to be able to get the Iraqi people to be uh uh become more of a nation of a democracy where they debate and they argue like civil human beings, making that a first resort instead of violence.
Violence being a last year's work.
Do you really feel like they're going to change?
You mean d debate and argue like civil human beings as we do here in America?
Like we do here, yeah.
You'd call what we do here civil.
Not really, but at least we're, you know, we were, you know, it's just a little more calm.
I pretend to be.
You know what?
Here's the way I would answer your question with with all due respect.
Uh I I think I think the uh the nature of your question illustrates one of the uh challenges that we have.
I think the premise in your question is flawed.
The the premise in your question is I heard it is that the Iraqi people are violence prone and are and are uh ordinated toward that, and uh and so the how can we change that?
And that's I don't believe that the Iraqi people want to live their lives in endless violence and threats, just like you and I don't.
I think they're human beings just like we are.
Can we can we uh Uh help that country to become a thriving nation of free people making up their own minds.
Yeah, it's already starting to happen far sooner than it happened in our own history of independence.
Uh and it's I I have every reason to believe it can happen because I believe in human nature.
Okay.
You don't feel that they're any we're not dealing with the more difficult type based on I'm not I'm not making any comments on religion, but based on their extremely different religious beliefs.
Uh just it's just a completely different over here.
You don't think um it it's yeah, I I don't I don't think that that has uh a whole lot to do with it.
I I I I think that most people, regardless of what their religion is, want to live in peace.
There's a distorted view of uh of Islam because of the terrorists, but most of Islam's fairly peaceful.
Is this that's so large it only takes one percent of that religion uh to become terrorists, and you've got about, you know, you get millions and millions of people represented by one percent of the worldwide number of people that practice uh Islam.
But these are fascists, these are Islamo fascists, and they're not the standard issue Iraqi citizen.
They these are the so-called insurgents.
They're nothing more than imported terrorists, and they are trying to kill the Iraqi people, they're trying to intimidate them into uh into giving up this quest for freedom because it's the biggest threat that the Islamo fascists face.
And so I but yes, I'm I'm fully as one who believes in human nature.
I I think just like in America, I don't care what your religion or your race, your sexual orientation or whatever, you you you you want the best for yourself.
You want the best opportunity you can provide for yourself and for your children for your family, uh and and you want relative uh peace, and you want the right to pursue life, liberty, and and happiness.
And I think that's what is the natural spirit of the human creation.
I think all people around the world are made the same in that regard.
It's just that they live under tyranny or dictatorship for so long, it's like it's it's like it's imprisoning animals, and then you beat them ever so long, it's gonna take them a while to forget that and become trusting again uh of of uh people that live around them or what have you.
But yeah, it's it's at some point we're gonna have to give this a shot because trying to appease these people who kill and murder uh randomly and indiscriminately is not working either.
And I do I think of all the things that are on the table, uh this is the one that provides the best shot and the best chance.
I believe it it it really boils down to nothing more than I believe in the in the basic goodness of most people.
Now, in any group of people, you're gonna have some scala wags, you're gonna have some you're gonna have criminals, you're gonna you're gonna have a percentage that are not mentally right.
You're gonna have all those things are are are gonna be factors no matter what group of people from whatever country or culture you put together.
But on balance, the vast majority of people are just plain old normal.
And that means they want certain things, and most people don't want to live like they're living in Iraq today.
They didn't want to live that way under Saddam, and they don't want to live that way under some mullah.
Same thing in Afghanistan.
And I just I where wherever people have been liberated and the liberators have stuck around to guarantee it, like Germany, like Japan, we have now functioning democracies.
And the great thing about a democracy, and the great thing about a free people is they never attack their neighbors.
They will defend themselves if they are, but they don't become attackers.
They don't become plotters, they don't become occupiers, they don't become people that gobble up other real est the real estate of other people and hold it.
We're not that.
We are we are liberators.
We've liberated over a billion people since uh since our founding, and this is just the latest example of it, and history tells me that yeah, it can succeed if we stick to it.
Okay.
Thanks, Rush.
Okay, Elizabeth, this is Marie in Patterson, New Jersey.
You're next on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hello.
Rush.
I went on your website.
Can you hear me?
Yes, ma'am.
Okay.
I went on your website and I saw the picture of the soldiers in their orange uniforms with that fabulous American flag.
You want to talk about an in your face picture.
I loved it.
The only thing that sickens me is we can't get that bravado in our uh wormy senators.
Uh I I'm just sick with what I hear from our people.
Well, I agree with you, but thank God we don't need the bravado from these people.
We've got the bravado from the people who are wearing the uniform and on the front lines.
And It's so fabulous, Russia.
Couldn't have put a better picture.
That's why we honor them, and that's why we always support them, because they're the ones that are carrying the water for all of us back here, and they're doing it on the front lines, and they're doing it in the face of people like Durbin.
They're doing it despite people who are trying to demoralize them, whether they're doing it on purpose or not, that's the practical effect.
They have to sit around and they watch news over there and they see what Durbin says about the way we mistreat prisoners in Abu Ghrab and Gitmo, and it can't help but make them scratch their heads, and it also can't help but uh energize our enemy.
But yet they're over there and they're acting with bravado.
This picture is a great sign.
That's a great way to describe it.
This picture does show bravado on the part of our troops.
You can see it at Rush Limbaugh.com.
We'll be right back.
Thank you, Marie.
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Speaking of Ben Nelson, I still have this story of Osama Obama on the front of the stack and it'd move it to the back.
Obama Osama came down from his perch in Illinois to uh stump for Senator Nelson here in Florida.
Uh what was it?
Uh I guess it was yesterday.
I can't believe it didn't cancel it.
This is this is the Orlando Sentinel.
Hurricanes are going through, and they still and they still did the fundraiser.
Doesn't surprise me.
But nevertheless, Obama said the Democrats have at times have lost their way.
We're trying to decide what our core values are, of course, and it was for the benefit of Ben Nelson.
I should I should remind you that Senator Nelson was on Fox, he was on some Sunday show yesterday, and he actually blamed the fact that Bush hasn't signed a Kyoto theory for this hurricane dentist that went up there and wrecked the panhandle.
And I, folks, I I'm here to tell you the hurricane experts themselves debunk the whole notion of a link between global warming and the hurricanes.
Here's why.
If there ever was all of this this uh uh extraordinary uh global warming, it would occur at the poles.
It would occur at the North Pole to South Pole, would it not?
Isn't that where they keep telling us the ice pack is melting or going to melt?
In which case the the the warming waters would occur up north and way south.
And if that happened, hurricane experts say, if anything, it would cause weather patterns that would decrease the number of hurricanes and their intensity.
Not just the opposite.
So, but even let's let's say that Bush had signed Kyoto, which he's not gonna do, and there's a great statement from the G8 uh when they finished on global warming, and it's got Bush written all over it.
Uh and it basically says, we're not we're not gonna sign on to this.
We're not gonna sign into Kyoto, and we're not gonna sign on to this until there's more science in on it.
Of course, this upset the science community because they think there's plenty, but the scientific community is not aligned, and they're not uh they're not they're not unilateral on this or monolithic.
But even if we had signed Kyoto, does that mean this hurricane wouldn't have happened and it wouldn't have been a category three?
This is just absurd.
This is just, it's it's it's absolutely absurd.
It's intellectual vacancy, it's crisis and fear-mongering.
Uh and here's a former astronaut saying this kind of thing.
It's just it's just it's laughable.
Now, one other thing here, I've actually one, two, since we're getting three things here.
Getting a lot of uh lot of uh positive response to the posting of the Club Gitmo East photo at Rush Limbaugh.com.
And it really, you know, the the I guess it was Marie who said that it that picture just it it if it it means bravado.
It just illustrates bravado on the part of the troops in your face uh to our enemies as as uh good as anything that you've seen.
And it does do that when you look at it from that context.
Here are these guys at Camp Ramadi in uh in Iraq, and once again, they are the uh the 983rd Engineer Battalion, their first sergeant Paul Joseph is our contact.
We sent him a bunch of club gitmo gear, and there have to be one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven or twelve guys here, uh, all wearing the gear with three or four others in full uniform.
It's just a great, great picture, and it's a confidence builder.
It will inspire you, and it it just it it it makes you wonder why in the world we've got so many senators and uh and and and and members of Congress and just people all over the left doing doing their best to demoralize these people, whether they intend to do that or not.
And that leads me to this uh great story in the American Spectator today by Jed Babin.
Jed Babin, he's a contributing editor of The American Spectator, and he's the author of Inside the Asylum, Why the UN and Old Europe Are Worse Than You Think.
I just want to read you one paragraph from this otherwise fabulous piece of Mr. Babin's.
It is this.
Instead, we have the Durban Kennedy Dinocrats hammering our soldiers and aiding the enemy.
Abu Mousab al Zarqawi, the Al-Qaeda chief in Iraq, sent a thank you note to the Dick Durbins and Ted Kennedys of Congress in a message to his followers and sympathizers on July 5th.
Now, according to an unreleased translation read to me by a Defense Department source, Zarkawi's message to his people extorted his terrorists to greater effort because Zarkawi said, it's very clear that America was being defeated in Iraq.
What proof did Zarkawi cite in this uh in this letter?
His message said that the proof that America is losing is that some American congressmen are saying just that.
Now, this has not been released, apparently, or at least the transcription of it has not been uh translation has not been released.
But again, it is a message that Zarkawi sent to his followers and sympathizers, sympathizers on the 5th of July, week ago tomorrow, and Jed Babin was treated to an unreleased translation read to him by a Defense Department source.
And he exhorted his terrorists to greater effort because we're losing the war in Iraq.
And Zarkawi said the proof of that is America is losing because some American congressmen are saying just that.
So you look at that picture from Camp Ramadi, Club Gitmo East, it's been renamed.
Club Gitmo East, Camp Ramadi in New York, and compare that to the thing Zarkawi is sending around to his people.
And that's why, you know, here we had we we had uh Senator Durbin all upset that uh his words appeared on Al Jazeera.
And he was out there blaming me for that.
That his words, you know, languished away uh with nobody knowing what they were for a couple of three days until I started publicizing.
He said it from the floor of the Senate.
He's mad at me for publicizing it.
Al Jazeera covered it.
Al Jazeera watches action on the floor of the Senate.
They know what Senator Durbin said long before I amplified it beyond C-SPAN or C-SPAN 3, wherever it was.
But it doesn't matter who amplified it, it matters that a U.S. Senator said what he said.
And as we have been maintaining for the longest time, that kind of message is heard by the enemy, and they use it in two ways.
To inspire themselves and to demoralize their opponents, our guys.
Another story from the American Spectator, this is by Christopher Orlitt, and it's titled Club Gitmo.
The popular version in the mainstream media of suspected terrorists being tortured and humiliated by sadistic U.S. military guards was disputed the other week in a 278-page internal investigative report, excerpts of which were published by the Associated Press.
If the news accounts of the report purported to show U.S. brutishness and misconduct, it had the opposite effect.
Rather, the report reveals that it is the Muslim detainees that are the sadistic thugs, and that the military's kid gloves approach is creating dangerous and chaotic conditions for U.S. military personnel.
Far from cowed and passive victims.
The suspected terrorists are shown to be defiant and violent rabble rousers, expertly taking advantage of the U.S. military's weaknesses and using exaggerated complaints about abuse and Koran desecration to stir up animosity among American liberals and their Muslim sympathizers abroad.
In one instance, the AP reports, some prisoners at the U.S. base in eastern Cuba have gone on the attack, as in April 2003, when a detainee got out of his cell during a search for contraband food And knocked out a guard's tooth with a punch to the mouth and bit him before he was subdued by MPs.
Another report details how detainees protested the high temperatures at Gitmo.
They doused guards with whatever liquid was handy from spit to urine.
Sometimes they struck their jailers, one swinging a steel chair at a military police officer.
Another paragraph documents an instance in which a detainee threw a bottle of urine at a guard in May 2002, apparently because he believed the soldier had intentionally kicked his hospital bed.
When the soldier threw the now empty bottle back, the detainee grabbed a steel chair and swung it at guards before he was subdued.
And it lists many, many more.
So just another side of our guests at Club Gitmo, despite the amenities.
Despite the freedoms, they're still a mad bunch and a terrible lot.
And yet you don't hear any of this.
You never hear a Senator Durbin or any other American official decrying the absolutely inhumane type of prisoner that we are holding.
You never hear the type of rotten egg that we have captured.
You never hear how bad these guys are.
In fact, we get Michael Duffy from Time telling us they were just children.
And 19 of them are now dead and and and we'll never get to know them.
And and you know, they're they they don't even they they don't even know where Florida or Missouri is on a map, which made me think they were educated in the American public school system.
Do we just we there was such sympathy for them in that time story?
And they're terrorists.
They were people who would blow us up any chance they got.
But all we hear about is how rotten our investigators are, and our interrogators and our soldiers in general.
Get this from the LA Times, as many as forty possible terrorists may have attempted to infiltrate U.S. intelligence agencies in recent months.
This from CIA expert Barry Roydon at a national counterintelligence conference in March.
If that news isn't sufficiently terrifying, consider this chilling paradox, though the agencies caught the potential spies at the job application stage.
Post-September 11th pressures to quickly boost staffing, make it increasingly likel likely that a terrorist could sneak into the intelligence community's ranks.
In response, intelligence agencies have launched ambitious campaigns to attract new recruits, even enlisting advertising agencies and running glitzy commercials.
But this scramble to hire leaves agencies vulnerable as a woefully small number of security analysts attempt to vet the flood of applicants.
Considering their backgrounds, these recruits would presumably have failed to pass muster if they attempted to find jobs in U.S. intelligence.
But what about John Walker Lind, known affectionately here as Johnny Ben Walker?
Dubbed the American Taliban, Lynde was of a different mold.
He came from an affluent Marin County suburb, had decent academic credentials and no criminal record.
If the U.S. hadn't captured him in Afghanistan, if he'd simply returned home to the U.S. after his secret training and indoctrination, his knowledge of Arabic and Middle Eastern travel may have made him an attractive candidate for U.S. intelligence.
That others with similar experience will infiltrate intelligence agencies as a real risk.
Well, can I answer the question?
What's so bad about them infiltrating?
I mean, if they're just little angels, if they're just little children.
If they're just people we want to get to know, then by all means, make them members of the CIA, because you got to go through a big background check to become a spy.
What's the problem, LA Times?
I mean, uh, can't you people get your story straight?
Either these people are just a bunch of innocent bystanders that we're rounding up and mistreating, or else they are really dangerous and don't deserve to be infiltrating the CIA.
Which is it?
Quick timeout.
We will be right back.
Ha, how are you?
We are back and back to the phones we go.
This Jason in Winachi, Washington.
Hi, Jason.
Welcome to the program.
Well, thank you, Rush.
Like to say it's a great honor to be talking to you today.
Um, I think you make the world a better place.
And I agree a lot of times with you, sometimes I don't, but for the most part, I think you're doing the world a great service out there, especially I'm a veteran and I appreciate everything you do for all the servicemen out there.
And I'm on the same mindset.
I think we need to go there and send another 30,000 of our guys over there and just take care of business.
Enough of this, you know, pussyfooting around.
We need to just go in there and show them what the real power that we can yield is.
And I think we should take get rid of all the Korans.
If there's a problem with the Kraans, let's not even give them a Koran.
Why sh why they why should they get one?
They're not going to give our guys anything.
Uh well, you know, I don't know about 30,000 more troops.
I think maybe some bombs.
Yeah.
Just some nice laser-guided bombs, you know, right down their doorstep.
I'm not, you know, I'm not opposed to letting these people practice their religion in uh in in incarceration.
I'm not opposed to that at all.
Well, you know, as long as you know, it doesn't cause us any problems.
I I agree, but apparently, you know, we try to do the right thing and we're always looked upon as the big evil person.
Uh no, just I think the American left does that, and our enemies, of course, do, because to them we're bigger and badder than they are, and of course they look at us as evil.
I can understand our enemies doing that.
It's the American left agreeing with them that we are the focus of evil that's the troubling thing to me.
And and that bothers me too.
I said I'm a veteran, and uh I've had experience over there in the Persian Gulf, and uh I just wish they let the military take care of the problems that they are.
I mean, the military the military is running this show.
The president said that a number of times.
The the this is not Vietnam, where the politicians in Washington were directing bombing raids and looking at maps.
The military is doing this.
You know, and I've uh I've got a lot of positive feedback back from people I work with who were deployed over there.
And uh, you know, it it's ironic to hear what they say versus what's on the media continually.
I mean, it's like two different wars going on.
Well, that's always the case with the media, especially since Vietnam, because the media's template is Vietnam, where it's unjust and we don't deserve to win, and and uh and uh we're fighting a lost cause and it's somebody else's country, we don't deserve to be there.
Uh and that's why they can't report accurately about it, because they have this they they they look at it through the prism of Vietnam and and they look at Bush through the prism of uh of Watergate.
And that's why I say their playbook is 30 and 40 years old, and it's amazing to watch this.
You know, it it really is.
Just as a as a as a uh quite connected uh political analyst here, it's amazing to see these people continuing to move backwards in a world that's marching forwards.
Hey, Rush, the reason I called, I'm curious what you have to your thoughts on this thing with Carl Rove, if if he was the person who outed Wilson's wife Palm, Valerie Palm.
Have you heard anything about that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's it?
You know, you know what you know what the great thing about this is to me.
In the first place, I don't from everything I'm reading, I don't think he mentioned her name.
Uh I I think that uh he mentioned Wilson's wife.
I think what Rove was doing, and I've read this Matt Cooper email that Isakoff got, and on uh it to me, it looks like Rove was trying to warn Time magazine, don't write this story.
You're going about Joe Wilson and and Niger, you're going up the wrong tree here, you're barking up the wrong tree, and and the fact that uh his wife was in the agency, that's what he said uh at working with weapons of mass destruction.
I mean, it didn't it it he didn't out her as a foreign covert agent or anything of the sort.
The real irony here, Jason, to me, is the press got exactly what they wanted.
They're the ones that asked for the administration to investigate this.
Normally the press circles the wagons around reporters that are trying to keep a secret.
But since this reporter was Novak, and since Novak is hated because he's a conservative, the press demanded that he reveal his source.
Novaks ever demanded that any of them reveal their source, but they were demanding that he'd do it and he wouldn't do it.
So they then demanded because they wanted to believe Joe Wilson, who was telling lies all over the place, New York Times, op-ed and everything else about Niger and his role and who had assigned him the job and this sort of thing.
It was his wife who recommended him for the job, by the way.
And and so they demanded this independent council because they thought the independent council would get Novak and cause the source to be revealed because it was all about nailing Bush.
It was all about embarrassing the Bush administration.
Well, lo and behold, they got their independent council, and one of them is in jail now.
For contempt for and and what this prosecutor is looking at, I think is perjury.
I don't I don't think he's ever gonna make an indictment.
Uh hand one down.
I don't think there is anything that's indictable.
But I think now he's looking to see who said what in the grand jury and wants to compare notes, and that's why he wants these reporters' testimony, find out if somebody told him a lie somewhere along the line.
That's what I think this is all about.
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Don't go away.
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