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June 22, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 22, 2005, Wednesday, Hour #3
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Okay, folks.
Now we got a lot to do here in this hour.
So got a lot to go here, and it's my last hour this week.
It's summertime, it's vacation time.
And as a service to you, I'm gonna take my vacation two and three days stretches at a time.
I've only got one full week scheduled this summer uh on vacation.
I'm gonna take a couple days uh this week, Thursday and Friday.
Um another one of my exciting guy golf trips.
Looking forward to it.
Be back on Monday.
Who's who's gonna be here tomorrow and uh Friday?
Roger Hedgecock will be here, guest hosting on Thursday and Friday.
Uh, greetings and welcome back.
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We're doing it all today.
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We are podcasting as always for those of you who are subscribers and members at Rush247, and I come to you with a new announcement.
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All right, now Howard Feynman's out with a piece uh on the MSNBC.com.
It's a web exclusive.
And I just I have to share this with you because when I read this, I remembered something that my buddy Mark Levin had written at National Review Online uh way back on September 8th of last year, and I went and got that.
It's just it's it's amazing how prescient uh Levin was.
And this Feynman piece is a gagger, folks.
I mean, you're gonna you're gonna be gramming that that middle finger, that that index finger right in your mouth and gagging.
But before we get to that, a couple of other uh not directly related stories, but still they they do have uh some relevance here, and your phone calls are coming up as well.
Broke and without enough money in the bank to pay its bills after the end of the month, the Florida Democratic Party has now been slapped with a lien by the IRS for failing to pay payroll and social security taxes in 2003.
The uh State Party's budget and finance committee voted on Tuesday to ask for a new audit to account for more than $900,000, it believes somehow disappeared from the books uh during the 2003-2004 calendar years when the party was led by Scott Maddox, who is now seeking the party's nomination for governor of Florida.
Maddox and his successor, Karen Thurman, who became the party's new chairwoman just last month, did not immediately return phone messages uh axing for comment on the findings.
While the party owes roughly 200,000 in delinquent payroll and social security taxes.
The lien was against the remaining $98,000 in their account on Friday.
Uh Lee County uh chairman uh committeaman rather, John Osman said that it cost about uh 250 grand a month to pay salaries and overhead for the party operation in Tallahassee, and that it had been spending more so far this year than it has raised.
Say what it is.
Florida Democrat That's I'm telling you what, the Democratic Party in Florida is stealing social security benefits.
That's right, from uh from deserving American retirees.
Skipping out on those payments.
Social Security and payroll taxes.
Yes.
That would include Medicare and uh and Social Security.
The big trouble in the state of Florida where the Democrats are unified uh and are prepared to take back the White House in 2008 and everything else in 2006.
Now I want to move back or move on to uh one of my favorite blog sites, websites, the American thinker.com.
And this is a piece by uh one of their writers, Ed Laskey.
The rise of the disdainful Democrats, it's called, Senator Robert Byrd's previous occupation as a butcher never seems to come up when the press describes his history.
It seems uh mundane occupational histories of politicians matter only when they're Republicans.
This is a method employed by the liberal media to demean Republicans, implicitly characterizing them as made of lesser stuff, and to disparage their intellectual abilities.
For example, the Speaker of the House, Denny Hastert's career as a wrestling coach routinely brought up, since jocks are probably a lesser cast in the Washington, D.C. Pecking Order.
That was his well-hone talent for inspiring his troops and creating a sense of teamwork.
Our skills undoubtedly enhanced by his teaching history matters not at all.
The media similarly depicts Tom Delay as a former exterminator.
His nickname, the hammer, subtly implies a view of him as a destroyer, and this merits frequent mention.
In ways both subtle and overt, the Democrats and their press allies hold up as objects of derision.
Those Republicans who have actually worked with their hands, or even those who plied their skills in professions which do not require a graduate degree.
The American dream of self-starters rising to prominence as part of the legendary appeal of America, but the media refuse to celebrate these stories as worthy of emulation when they are accomplished by Republicans.
The most offensive aspect of the Democratic disdain for the common man is exemplified by their abhorrence of soldiers.
While these men and women defend our shores and protect us from terrorism, they are routinely slandered by Democratic politicians, eager to use the wayward actions of a few to indite all of them.
The New York Times, the House organ of the Democratic Party, has always portrayed volunteers going into the military as dead-end people who have no hope of getting into or finishing college and are unemployables who have no way to earn a living other than joining our military.
This condescension is overwhelming.
Howard Dean's recent condemnation of Republicans as people who've never made an honest living in their lives, simply is out of touch with reality.
Ms. Jordine, your characterization seems to apply far more readily to Democratic leaders than to Republicans.
Ted Kennedy's a prototypical trust fund baby, a man who wouldn't be a senator or a leader of anything, but for his father's ill-gotten gains and any sheen that rubbed off him as the brother of two slain American legends.
After all, Kennedy cheated on Harvard exams, has had a less than stellar history when it comes to his romantic life and driving skills and much rumored problems involving his sobriety.
Nancy Pelosi and Senator Feinstein have family wealth derived from husbands who engage in the very behavior often condemned by liberals.
Venture capital and LBO financing.
Tom Harkin lied about his Vietnam War experience.
Joe Biden cheated in school and plagiarized in order to draft his speeches.
John Edwards uses junk science to accumulate a fortune.
Star Democratic Senator Hillary Clinton was a longtime board member of Walmart.
The betois of liberals.
Howard Dean is the Park Avenue triplex-raised private school educated beneficiary of the Dean Witter fortune.
John Kerry's a serial gold digger who has an obsession with marrying wealthy women.
Now there are a number of Democrats who have earned fortunes on the basis of their own efforts.
John Corzine used his immense Wall Street fortune to finance his Senate seat.
Election campaign now plans to use even more of his millions by the score to win his state's governorship.
Frank Lautenberg, the other New Jersey senator, is also loaded.
He was the founder of ADP, which gasp has been outsourcing data processing jobs from corporations for decades now.
And don't forget Herb Cole from Wisconsin with a retailing fortune of his own, building up family-owned grocery stores and starting Cole's department stores only to sell it in 79 and seeing it become a major retailing success story.
A wealthy investor since then, he owns the Milwaukee Bucks basketball team.
Like President Bush, Senator Cole sports a Harvard School, uh business school MBA.
If he attended his graduation exercises in Harvard Yard, he would have been dissed by the diploma winners from other Harvard faculties as is traditional in Cambridge.
All of these Democrats used hard work and business skill to build legitimate fortunes, but other Democrats came by their fortunes with less work.
Bill and Hillary Clinton are two names.
And he goes on, the conclusion of this is, it may be a bit of a stretch.
For the Democratic Party, leadership looks more like the House of Lords.
And the Republican Party looks more like the House of Commons.
Judging by its leadership, one of our political parties can legitimately claim to be the party of the common man and woman, and it isn't the Democrats.
And this is a friend send me a note last night.
She runs around, she sees she talks to Republicans and Democrats a lot, and she she talks to mainstream Democrats, average ordinary Americans, and she can't understand why they're still Democrats.
After all that's become of the Democratic Party, all the hate-filled rage and anger and all that.
She said that what they always say to all the Democrats and the party, the little guy.
The Democrats are the party that stands for the downtrodden.
It's the other way around.
It's just the other way around.
And Mr. Laske here at uh the American Thinker.com has it right.
We'll take a break.
We'll come back with McCain's moment in time.
Written by Howard Feynman, uh, MSNBC.com right after this.
Uh, all of you on hold, please please stay there.
I know you're there, and I know some of you have been waiting for a while, but I'll get uh get to you as soon as I can.
You're on hole because I want to speak to you, so uh indulge me.
I've got to do this.
Uh Howard Feynman, 128 this afternoon, posted at MSNBD NB.
Slow down, Rush.
Twee.
MSNBC.com.
McCain's moment, the Maverick Arizona Senator is everywhere in Washington these days.
Could an independent run for the White House be in the works?
Here in your nation's capital, three parties roam the landscape these days.
Dobson Rove Republicans, Reed Pelosi Democrats, and McCain Media Independents.
At least for now, the McCain media's control the game.
Going forward, here's Feynman admitting that the media is its own party, which he's done before.
Going forward, the question isn't so much whether the leader of the McCain medias can win the presidency, but whether he will try to do so as an independent or a Republican.
If Senator Hillary Rodham Rodham hopes to win an 08, by the way, she'd better hope McCain chooses the McCain media route, because that's her best chance.
Now stick with me on this, because as I say, my buddy Mark Levin wrote about this very scenario uh last uh December.
Uh what was uh September.
I'm sorry, last September.
I'll get to that here in just a second.
Just a couple more excerpts from Feynman.
So here's the question.
Why is this McCain's moment?
Well, there are lots of reasons for one, and this is not a new observation.
We in the so-called mainstream media can't get enough of the guy.
He's got an inspiring personal story, of course, but that's only part of it.
McCain quite simply is good copy.
He knows precisely where to stand on which issues to generate publicity.
Battered between left and right, the mainstream media is drawn to him because he's unpredictable.
Howard, I can tell you the day before he does it, what McCain's gonna do.
You you don't you think he's unpredictable because he always agrees with you and your buddies in the media, but he's utterly predictable.
Utterly predictable.
Media's drawn to him because he's predictable, unpredictable because he is alternately and equally critical of both parties.
Both parties.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
This is your Democrat bias showing up.
He may say one thing a month about the Democrats, and you'll consider it criticism.
He lives criticizing Republicans.
At uh at any rate, McCain can take it either way.
If he can't get the Dobson Rove Republicans, James Dobson is able to successfully shout no from his mountaintop in Colorado, then McCain could run as an independent.
Were he to do so, he would probably siphon more votes from the Republican nominee than the Democrats.
Good news for any Democrat nominee, but especially for divisive figures such as Hillary Rodham Rodham.
Remember 1992?
And if the Reed Pelosi Democrats do nominate Hillary, plenty of conservative Democrats should be tempted to join McCain.
The shape of a possible McCain media administration is clear.
Lieberman is VP, Lindsey Graham is attorney general, Senator Chuck Hagel is Secretary of Defense.
So uh I don't know how much Feynman's tweaking us on this or goosing us on this, but I want to share with you what Levin wrote at National Review Online, September 8th, 2004.
He said, I look for something close to a rerun of the 1912 presidential election in 2008.
President William Howard Taft was the incumbent president.
Ex-president Teddy Roosevelt, a good big government progressive, was unhappy with his successor, so he decided to challenge Taft in the Republican primary.
Roosevelt lost.
He was popular, but he was also controversial within his party.
Roosevelt then bolted the Republican Party and formed a bull moose party, and of course ran for president.
Woodrow Wilson wound up the unexpected nominee of the Democratic Party.
Wilson won the presidency with 42% of the vote, with Roosevelt coming in second in the popular vote and Taft last.
John McCain fancies himself another Teddy Roosevelt.
He invokes Roosevelt's name all the time to justify his anti-free speech, anti-free enterprise liberalism.
I'm convinced that his media shtick, which the press loves, is part of McCain's strategy to eventually lead his own revolt, at which time he'll need and receive their help.
And look at the rest of McCain's behavior.
He campaigns for George Bush, but he will not criticize John Kerry.
In fact, he says Kerry'd be a good commander-in-chief, which no Republican believes except perhaps for David Gergen.
He has positioned himself as a so-called independent and progressive and a self-proclaimed figure of unity and bipartisanship.
And McCain has spent years in the Senate attacking the structure of the political parties, the primary target of the so-called reforms of the McCain Feingold bill, which undermines severely the party's ability to raise funds.
I believe McCain is and has been planning another run for the presidency.
He can't win the Republican nomination, which is a lesson he learned in 2000.
But he is far better positioned to run as a third-party candidate than Ross Perot was.
Perot got 19% of the vote in 92.
Uh Levin predicts that McCain will either seek the Republican nomination in 08 or bolt from the party and announce an independent candidacy like his hero, Teddy Roosevelt, or he'll skip the process altogether and start out as an independent, which uh Levin thinks is less likely.
In any event, uh 2008 McCain will run as the unity candidate, Republicans beware.
And as Howard Feynman says, he'll have the media with him.
But I'm going to tell you what I think's going on here, folks.
Because I know the media, Mr. Feynman, I know you guys better than McCain knows you.
McCain thinks he's playing you guys like a fiddle, but it's the other way around.
You're playing McCain like a fiddle.
Because Mr. Feynman, you can't convince me that in a race that came down to John McCain and Hillary Clinton, you're going McCain.
You just can't convince me of that.
In fact, I know exactly what this is.
If there is any strategy here, and I'm not alleging it now, but if something is going on, what it is is this.
The mainstream media party, quote unquote Howard Feynman, is stroking McCain, promoting him at every turn to encourage the very third-party candidacy that uh is speculated here.
So as precisely to split the Republican vote, a la Perot did in 92, and swish Hillary Clinton into the White House.
That is the point.
And in both in that case, the media could make uh the case that they're for both McCain and Hillary, because it would do nothing but split the Republicans.
That's the theory.
Theory is get McCain and just get him so stroked up, play him like a violin that he can bolt, do a third-party candidacy, and that greases the skids for Hillary.
Now, I also might deviate from that a bit.
Because I folks, I'm I'm not convinced that a McCain third-party candidacy hurts the Republicans as much as people might think.
He has lost the Republican base.
He is totally just slapped them.
Uh he's made it clear that he has no use for them and he doesn't care what they think about him.
So if McCain goes third party with as whacked out as the Democratic, and I'll tell you something, if Hillary Clinton, if she doesn't become an anti-war Democrat, she's gonna have trouble with the Democratic Party.
Maybe not the nomination, but she's gonna have true.
If she let me tell you something, this party is anti-war, Mr. Snergley.
This is an anti-war party, and she's out there pro-war.
If she doesn't become the anti-war candidate, she's gonna have some problems keeping the Democrats unified.
And if McCain's in the race, he provides an outlet for Democrats unhappy with Hillary that they might look at as a sellout because she's not anti-war enough to go right to McCain's.
I'm not convinced that McCain as a third party candidate will destroy the Republican chances.
If he if it anything, he'll just if if it's just as likely that he could damage Hillary, or whoever the Democrat nominee is by going third party.
But the idea that he might win the presidency is a third party, not even Howard Feynman thinks that's possible.
Remember, this is all about splitting the Republican Party.
That's what the mainstream media party and the Democrats are all about.
Splitting up the Republican Party, thereby weakening it.
That's the objective here.
They're the ones playing McCain like a fiddle.
And we go to Offit Air Force Base in Nebraska.
Steve, I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the program.
Good afternoon in Megaditto's rush.
Listen, I this whole business about the terrorists uh being followers of the Quran.
The thing that worries me a great deal is that if one looks at our soldiers who are in Iraq and Afghanistan, one could make a claim that they're all principally Bible-based.
In fact, we have we have pastors that go with them to war.
And so I'm not sure that the that the affiliation of religion versus the troops and religion versus terrorists is necessarily um it it's it it's not necessarily good.
Let me all right.
Well, let me let me explain it to you uh as uh as I see it.
The terrorists claim the bin Ladans, the terrorist terrorist leaders claim their instructions come from the Holy Quran.
We are in Afghanistan, but and I've been there, and we are imposing no religion, we're not making them read Bibles, we're not doing their religion is their religion and their culture is their culture.
We are guaranteeing their freedom and trying to teach them how to maintain it on their own.
The reason that we're in Afghanistan uh specifically is because if you look at bin Laden's history, bin Laden took over stateless regimes and turned them into terrorist camps.
He did that first in uh in uh Sudan, Somalia, and then he went to Afghanistan.
Our troops are there, and we have Americans there from the State Department, but we don't go into their courtrooms and say, okay, from when from now on you got to swear your oath to the Bible.
None of that.
Well, let's let me ask you a rhetorical question then.
If if if they don't believe in the Bible, and they in fact they don't believe in it at all, then what good does it do to have them swear an oath to based on the Bible when they go into our court system North Carolina lawing on California?
It's North Carolina, come on, Steve.
Now wait a second.
It's it's the law in North Carolina.
What they live in America.
They're moving and emigrating to America.
There is an American culture.
Uh, but that's not the point.
You're missing the point here.
I think the problem here is far greater, and it points up something that worries me about the American psyche.
I'm not coming.
The judge down in North Carolina said the right thing.
I'm not criticizing the judge.
The judge says, hey, I've got to go by the law here.
The law says that you swear on the holy scriptures.
Anybody know what those are?
Then it's their problem.
But we are not doing in these countries in Iraq.
Yeah, I can understand what you say.
Uh uh when you look at the the Arabs in that part of the world uh and the Islamists uh might look at the Christians coming in to pollute their country, particularly Baghdad, one of their age-old uh legendary capitals, along with Cairo uh in Egypt, and that uh this this is something that might offend them.
But remember, what's happening in Iraq is that the Iraqi people are determining their future.
And there's no hint of American culture involved in terms of religion.
They're writing their own constitution.
We're but we're imposing nothing on them.
This business about the Quran in in North Carolina and uh uh and the uh Islamic group here trying to say that there's a violation of the U.S. Constitution.
My point is this, I'll just state it again.
I don't think you want to you want to establish a moral equivalence between the the people that blew up the World Trade Center and our troops.
This is what Dick Durbin does.
There's no moral equivalence between our troops in Afghanistan and American citizens trying to help that country get back on its feet, ditto Iraq, and the people that blew up the World Trade Center in the Pentagon and crashed that plane out in the field in Pennsylvania.
And I'm not gonna sit here and stand for it.
I'm not gonna suggest there's a moral equivalence to what we try to do good in the world to these people that came in and murdered 3,000 Americans.
Now, before that happened, and this is my only point.
Before that happened, we never heard about the Quran.
We weren't treated to what anybody who read the Quran thought, other than when Calypso Lewis said it, or we heard about it from, you know, a report and news about what the terrorists are saying is guiding their actions.
Newsweek wasn't doing stories on how the Quran was being desecrated or damaged or whatever anywhere.
There weren't investigations of Americans all over the world.
All of a sudden, on September 11th, three airplanes are hijacked.
One, two, three, four airplanes are hijacked.
3,000 Americans are dead.
The people that did that claim proudly to have gotten their instructions from the Quran.
Since then, we have bent over backwards not to offend those people.
And it's gotten to the point now where they're saying, hey, by the way, uh, get your Bible out of your courtrooms when we're there bringing the Quran.
And I guarantee it'll happen.
Somebody's gonna say, oh, you know, that's right, we've got to.
And pretty soon we're gonna lose this country.
We're gonna lose this country within with if we don't enforce the borders.
Without a border, you don't have a country.
You may as well not have a country if you're not going to enforce your border.
The southern border is being overrun.
And we are coming up now with a bilingual country, pretty soon, probably trilingual.
And we're supposed to be tolerant of all of this.
We're not making one effort to stop the illegal immigration into this country wherever it's coming from.
These people are coming in and having children, which makes them American citizens.
They are growing in percentage of population leaps and bounds, and they are not acculturating with the good old-fashioned American culture that immigrants have in the past always done.
What they're bringing is their own cultures and they're setting them up in competition with the existing American culture.
And for whatever reason, thanks to people like Dick Durbin and Harry Reed and Ted Kennedy, we have got to bend over forwards and backwards and grab the ankles to make sure we don't offend any of these people.
Because they may end up voting Democrat someday.
And that's all that matters to Harry Reed and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean and all the rest of them.
They might vote Democrat, so fine, we won't patrol the border, we won't worry about it.
And if they're offended because of what we're doing with the Bible and the Quran in our own country, then fine, we'll appease them on that.
And so we're appeasing, appeasing, appeasing.
We're appeasing people who killed 3,000 Americans.
We are giving aid and comfort to the enemy every time a Democrat opens his mouth and criticizes Abu Ghab or Gitmo.
When the truth is just the opposite of what they say, in terms of the way the treasoners at Gitmore are being treated, the way they're being respected, the way their religion is being respected, the way their religion is being allowed to be practiced with they even have a Muslim chaplain down there at Gitmo.
They get prayer rugs, they get five prayer sessions a day, they get food, all this.
We're still bending over and grabbing.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Somebody comes in and blows up two of your tallest buildings in the country and kills 3,000 people.
You don't sit around and try to appease them.
And you don't look at those as people's future voters, and you don't do sessions about why do they hate us, and you don't go to ground zero and set up a memorial and let the enemies of the country trash this country.
Yeah, we had slaves, or we uh we decimated the Indians and all that.
You don't, you don't allow them under the guise of tolerance to create a memorial, it basically trashes the country.
Because if you're gonna do that, you don't think the country's worth saving as it is.
In fact, this whole war on terror is the result of a declared war by people who follow the Quran or say they do.
And I'm not saying all of them.
I'm talking about the people who've declared war get their guidance, they say, from the Quran, and they declared a religious war on us.
We have not declared a religious war on anybody.
We responded by calling for a war on terror, not a war on religion.
I'm not encouraging, I'm not suggesting, I'm not supporting, I'm not even getting close to saying we need a war on religion.
I'm just, it just it boggles my mind.
It really does, that before 9-11, none of this was of any concern.
After 9-11, we are going out of our way to apologize and appease and accommodate.
And it just doesn't compute with me.
And then to have you call here and suggest that there is an analogy to our troops in Afghanistan helping to rebuild the country while imposing not one element of American society or culture on them.
Ditto Iraq.
And Americans are dying in the effort to help these people establish lives of freedom and peace.
To have that analogized to the people that blew up the World Trade Center is about as much as I can stand in this segment.
An interesting email here from a uh member of the Air Force subscriber to my website got it last night.
Says Mr. Limbaugh, you're hitting hard in this Gitmo business, but you have deserted one of your primary rules.
Follow the money.
With all the erosion on large court awards and the judiciary growing in conservatism with each Bush appointee, the trial lawyers, the big big lobby, a heavy influence on the Dems are looking for more business.
They would love to spend years defending terrorists in U.S. courts, claiming innocence, crying about treatment, you get my drift, and there's no shortage of liberal money to pay for these lawyers.
As a veteran of Afghanistan and OIF, I fear nothing more than the impact the trial lawyers would have on the global war on terror if they got these bloodthirsty terrorists in a courtroom with their innocent act on.
That's right.
I hadn't thought about that.
But a lot of people are calling for trials for these people, and a lot of them are Democrats, and that's the trial lawyer uh lobby, and that you can't ignore that as uh as one of the reasons for motivations.
Uh this is uh Ali in Mobile, Alabama.
Welcome.
Nice to have you on the program.
Hi, Rush.
Uh, this is my first time calling your program.
I've been listening to you for the past uh eight years, and it has been uh enlightening to me.
Uh I'm originally from the Middle East.
I was born in Jordan, and I've been there.
I was I lived there for about twenty-one years before I moved to the United States.
And I just want to share with you uh my perspective or the way people in the Middle East and in the Moslem world view us, they will hate us forever.
The public image that we have is pretty bad.
There is nothing we can do to improve that unless we do two things.
Either trying to convert them into democracy, or have them respect us.
Well, let me ask you this, though, Ali.
If we abandon Israel, what impact would that have on our quote-unquote image?
I don't think that's going to change anything at all.
Because it's not I really think it's not going to change anything.
The fact that if you read the newspaper that's controlled, all the media that's being controlled by the governments of these Middle Eastern nations, they're all basically saying how the West is bad, how the United States is in is the root of or of uh of evil.
Uh they're trying to influence uh, you know, the world, they're trying to take over.
Uh I mean, i if you look at all the propaganda that's being spewed over there till today, I I read it off the internet and I keep up with it.
It is just appalling to me.
So you're saying that appeasing them on Gitmo and Abu Ghraib's not gonna make it dent.
I think I Rush, I think that um uh all these uh Gitmo hearings that we're talking about is a waste of time.
You know, we're not gonna appease them that way.
Based on what you're saying, it sounds like it might even make us even weaker by making us look like patsies.
Absolutely.
I mean, the way they view us, if we don't follow through, when we when we commit to something and we don't follow through, we're gonna be viewed as very weak people, spineless people, and they know that we yield under pressure.
That's the way they view us.
Mogadishu.
Absolutely.
Magadishu Beirut.
Um, I mean, they had that experience in the past, and they feel like any time we parade American soldiers being killed or executed, um, we're gonna feel like, oh, we need to pull out of there.
We can't keep going.
This is ridiculous, you know.
That's the understanding that they have.
And uh, this appeasement policy is not gonna work.
It's not gonna change their minds.
They're being brainwashed from a younger age since they're in school.
And in the media, everywhere, In in mosques, everywhere.
Everybody's basically saying how the United States is so bad, how the West, you know, hate Moslems.
And you're not going to change that overnight.
I think strength, democracy is the only way to change that.
So you would agree with our Iraq policy of trying to bring freedom to those people so they can make their own self-determination in life.
Rush, I I I couldn't agree with you more.
I never thought that in my lifetime that there will be a spark.
There would be uh any kind of hope for peace or democracy in the Middle East till I've seen what happened in Iraq.
I really believe that Iraq is the country that's going to be a beacon of democracy, but we have to follow through our let me ask you a question.
How long did you say you've been uh in America, Ali?
I've been in the United States for 25 years now.
Twenty-five years, and how old are you?
I'm um 46.
I just made 45 years.
Forty six.
Well, happy birthday.
Uh so you you you bring the experience of having lived there for a while, and you've uh you've moved and emigrated to the United States.
How do how do you view the Democrats like Durban and uh and Nancy Pelosi and all the others who want to engage in this appeasement policy to try to affect our image?
Uh how do you look at this?
Uh, how do you or how do you react to it when you hear it and see it?
Well, it really hurts me so bad because I have gained so much uh from being here in the United States.
I've worked so hard and uh I work for a fortune five hundred company.
Um I've done very well, and I know I couldn't have done better anywhere else, except in the United States.
And uh had I stayed in Jordan where I, you know, was born, uh, wouldn't have accomplished anything.
And uh to me to hear that, you know, people bad-mounting the United States, trying to appease other people.
Um, it really hurts me.
You know, it it just makes me feel very angry to hear that.
I would like for Senator You know, Durban to go and live in just pick a country in the Middle East.
Go live there for maybe 30 days, experience it, and I think he will come back and change his mind.
Well, uh I offered to pay for such trip, if he would take it.
I don't expect him to take me up on it.
Uh offer to pay for a trip to Gitmo and to Auschwitz.
Uh into the killing fields of Cambodia.
They go ahead and look uh and maybe we change his mind.
But he's he's uh done his quasi apology now.
Uh another another point about it, you know, these Middle Eastern governments, one of the things that people get confused about, these Middle East governments are not doing what they're doing over there for the people.
They're not trying to protect any aspect of the people, they're trying to protect their own fiefdoms, leadership uh positions, uh so forth and so on.
There's the most outrageous story today in the Tehran Times, and uh it's uh it's written by an um uh a Western journalist, talking about the Iranian election.
And they say that the Iranian election, which was a fraud, was more democratic than the American election of 2000.
And that's you know, that's being published in the Tehran Times, and the people of Iran are reading it, and whoever else has access to it, either the dead tree version uh or the or the website.
Uh and of course, uh Democrats, I would if once they get wind of that, they will probably I wouldn't be surprised if I hear some Democrat someday saying the Iranian elections were more fair as uh than the 2000 elections in the United States, and that's why we need the count every vote act or whatever it is.
And it just infuriates people.
Anyway, Ali, thanks so much for the call.
It's great to have you and uh uh glad you're able to get through.
A quick time out, but we will be back and wrap it up here after this.
We will wrap it up on a uh lighter note, an attempt to erect the world's largest popsicle in a uh New York City square, ended with a s with a scene straight out of uh a disaster movie, but much stickier.
The 25 foot tall, 17 and a half ton treat of frozen snapple juice melted faster than expected yesterday, flooded Union Square in downtown Manhattan with kiwi strawberry flavored fluid that sent pedestrians scurrying for a higher ground.
Firefighters closed off several streets and used hoses to wash away the sugary goo.
It was a snapple promotion, a new line of frozen treats by setting a record for the world's largest popsicle.
But the thing melted on them before it they thought it would.
I guess they forgot to calculate global warming.
Uh don't forget, folks, uh new Club Gitmo golf shirt now available at Rushlinball.com in the Club Gitmo gift shop.
We will see you on Monday.
Roger Hedgecock here tomorrow and Friday.
Have a uh great number of days till I see you next time.
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