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June 14, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 14, 2005, Tuesday, Hour #3
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And it's the rage out there.
I mean, everybody's raving about this.
Uh there are some things that we can't include yet, like music because of copyright uh problems.
And I I could I continue to hear from people.
I I guess this is just a testament that you have to explain things a number of times.
I continue to hear from people.
Well, other other shows, and I I read that I said what other shows.
Uh other shows uh have music.
Uh I I don't know what to tell you, folks.
Uh you know, uh we we have a battery of attorneys here, and the battery of attorneys has dug deep and they've given us their their opinion on this, and it's pretty deadlock solid.
There's nothing we can do about it because of the fact that if we included music, even snippets, that we would effectively be distributing other people's property, copyrighted uh property uh without compensation.
Uh the it's just it's just that simple.
Um somebody said, well, you know, if we when on your download stream every day, if we listen to the program live on the internet, we get the music there.
Um I ran that by the lawyers too, and they said there's a difference, and they tried to explain it to me.
I said, I don't care if if you say that this is what it is.
And I want to be honest with you people about something.
I want to be honest with you.
I can't run every facet of this operation day to day myself.
Have other people that do things.
What are you saying, Mr. Snurdly?
I that's too massive.
It's simply too many from the sales angle to this to the legal.
I'm not a lawyer.
You know, you gotta rely on the legal team.
So here's I here's what I did.
Because I continue to get so much email about music on the podcast.
I went, I went to some of my partners, and I said, I want you to shoot me straight.
Is this really illegal opinion, or are you just telling me this because it's cheaper?
And you know, I don't care.
I mean, if it offends them, it offends them.
I want to know the truth.
Is is this really the review, or is it you just make it up, we're just doing this because it's cheaper to do it this way.
And uh they were righteously indignant and offended, and they said, No, it has nothing to do with that.
We it it it the cost is prohibitive.
I mean, it really, there's no system set up for this kind of thing yet.
We're way ahead of the curve to do this legally.
I can't explain the people that are doing it that it in a way that we have been told is illegal, and don't ask, I can't explain why they're doing it.
And and the fact that they are doing it does not give us the confidence that we could do it ourselves.
We have a uh uh big legal team that's looked into this.
Uh but I just want to tell you we're we're always we're we're continually working on it, um, which at this point simply means monitoring developments in this whole copyright and pirate.
I just saw a uh uh uh I know that the Millennium Copyright Act is what this is all about, and until that's changed it, not none of this is going to change.
In fact, I just saw my story of my RSS reader today, that uh that Sony is coming out with a new system to copyright their to copy protect their CDs.
Uh that they're actually that they're they're the software on their CDs that will allow a maximum of three three dubs, three copies, and then it then it shuts down.
So somebody goes and buy a CD, they can copy it three times, but that's it.
And it's not on all their CDs, it's a new technology that they are embedding in the CDs, and of course the DVD industry has gotten even much tougher than the music industry has.
But it's uh it's a it's huge deal, and we have looked at it in uh every which way.
And that's what we have been told by uh the legal eagles.
So whatever anybody else is doing out there is of no consequence to us uh based on what we have learned.
Uh anybody else doing this is doing so at risk.
And uh and that's as much as I will say about that.
Let's move on now to the uh stacks of stuff, what's left here.
Senators, senators, and everybody's focusing on Tom Delay and members of the House, but senators traveled to exotic foreign capitals and fabulous resort towns with beaches and golf courses last year, all in the name of business, and rarely on their own dime.
One such trip was taken by Senate Minority Whip Richard Durbin, Democrat Illinois went to Cape Town, South Africa for an international affairs conference.
The trip was paid for by the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations and the South African Institute on International Affairs.
Senator Mike Enzi, Chairman of the Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, was reimbursed for travel expenses for himself and his wife for a speaking engagement in Munich, Germany for the German Marshall Fund of Washington.
Senator Christopher Dodd, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Rules Committee, reported travel to Coral Gables, Florida for three days in February 2004 to participate in the annual U.S. Spain Council Conference.
That trip was funded by the council.
Senator Debbie Stabineau, Democrat Michigan, reimbursed the Aspen Institute congressional program for travel, lodging, and meal expenses for a May trip to Barcelona.
Congressional travel has been getting a lot more scrutiny lately, in part because of the controversy surrounding delay following allegations that a lobbyist paid for some of his trips, which is not allowed.
Other private groups, however, can fund travel, which at times can include lavish meals and golf outings.
Republicans also hit the road.
Richard Luger, uh member of uh of the uh of the think tank, the Aspen Institute think tank went to Hawaii, Cancun, Barcelona, Venice, and Geneva.
Uh Bill Frist went to Chad, Sudan, and Kenya on a fact-finding mission, and the Samaritans Purse picked up that tab.
Uh let's see, Harry Reed didn't have as much uh travel as uh didn't have as much money as Frist in the bank, that he made one million to five million dollars in 2004 by selling a piece of property in Las Vegas and a 47% interest in an adjoining property.
So Hillary Clinton collected $2,376,000 in royalties for her memoirs, Living History, making her total take so far from the book near $8.7, hey, $8.7 million.
She's getting close to my territory.
Under reporting rules, former President Clinton, as a spouse of a senator is only required to report that he received more than $1,000 uh in payments for his best-selling autobiography, My Lies, uh, though published reports have said that he inked a deal worth 10 to 12 million with the publisher Alfred Knopf.
So all these guys are doing it.
They're all flying around on somebody else's dime.
And uh yet the focus here remains on Tom Delay.
Did you hear about Steve Jobs and his uh his commencement speech at Stanford?
He told Stanford grads on Sunday that dropping out of college was one of the best decisions he ever made because it forced him to be innovative even when it came to finding enough money for dinner.
In an unusually candid commencement speech, Jobs also told the almost 5,000 graduates that his bout with a rare form of pancreatic cancer re-emphasized the need to live each day to the fullest.
He was wearing sandals and jeans under his robe, treated like a rock star by the students because of the popularity of the iPod.
He uh said he attended Reed College in Portland, dropped out after only eight months because it was too expensive for his working class family.
Said his real education started when he dropped in on whatever classes interested him, including calligraphy.
Said he lived off five cent soda recycling deposits and free food offered by Hari Krishnas while taking classes.
He told the graduates that few friends could see the value of learning calligraphy at the time, but that painstaking attention to detail was what set Macintosh apart from its competitors.
He said if I had never dropped out, I might never have dropped in on that calligraphy.
He also recounted founding Apple in his parents' basement and his tough times after being forced out of the company he founded when he was only 30.
Uh I was a very public failure, and I even thought about running away from Silicon Valley.
Instead, he founded Pixar Studios, which has released uh enormously popular films like Finding Nemo and Monsters Inc.
So that's that's heck of a graduation speech.
Best thing I ever did was drop out.
Uh, I could give that speech, Mr. Snerdley.
You're absolutely right.
I I I could give this speech.
In fact, I've even got an analogy to the calligraphy.
My whole I started in radio when I was 16, and the only reason my parents put up with it was because I'd quit everything else that they wanted me to do.
I quit the Boy Scouts.
I was a tenderfoot for a year.
Folks, do you know what being a tenderfoot for a year is like?
It's like being in the first grade for five years.
All you have to do to be a tenderfoot is join.
You have to do nothing.
You have to get merit badges.
You have to accomplish anything.
I was a tenderfoot for a year.
And my parents were all worried I wasn't going to amount to Diddley Squad.
And I didn't like school.
They were worried about that.
And the only reason that my my my whole family at the time did not understand the social relevance of playing Donnie Osmond records on the radio.
They just didn't see where that was going to lead to any kind of a substantive future.
My family's all lawyers for the most part, now some judges too.
And uh, but it was what I loved.
I just stuck with it.
And and you know, and I first year in college, I was only I only I only went there because my parents wanted me to, and I thought, well, this is what I have to do.
And I flunked speech.
I flunked speech class.
And I showed up every day, unlike ballroom dancing.
I just refused to go to that.
Was taught by a former drill sergeant in the wax.
And I said, I ball th all through high school, they said when you get to college, uh, you're on your own, they're gonna treat you as an adult.
Oh, great, I can't wait for that.
Then I show up and I look at required courses, ballroom dance as a PE course.
Ballroom dance taught by a drill sergeant in a wax.
I never went.
And but I did go to speech and I gave every speech, but I didn't outline them.
Had to outline every speech, part of the course requirement.
So I flunked because I didn't follow the requirements.
Yet I gave every speech.
I'd already had a method for giving speeches.
Uh didn't outline them.
I had lived them.
And uh when I when when the of course the school sent my parents a letter that I was not showing up to ballroom dance, so my parents took my car away from me.
The car that I bought, they took it away.
My mother was driving me to college every day.
I'm I'm 19 years old.
My mother is driving me to imagine being let off at the front of the ballroom dance class hall by your mother.
Yeah, the car I bought, they took it away.
They did denied my driving privileges.
Lasted for a couple weeks.
I mean, it's a sci-fi.
This is not my place.
I I walked out of there, but it but it, you know, what I was interested in was radio, and that's what I stayed devoted to, like jobs and his calligraphy, I guess.
At any rate, I could have given that speech.
I could give that speech.
The difference is there's no university in America that will ever invite me to do a commencement speech.
Quick time uh timeout, and we'll be back.
Audio sound bites, Howard Dean and Dick Cheney, and other exciting things.
And your phone calls all coming up, so don't go away.
Back with more after this.
People have been patiently waiting on the phones, and we'll go back to the phones.
Kent in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina.
Great to have you on the program.
Welcome.
Uh, Rush, excuse me, one second.
Sorry.
I was swallowing an MM.
You caught me.
I wasn't expecting.
Swallow.
Yeah, I'm just regular or peanut size.
Um, actually uh peanut.
Yeah, it sounded like it was a pretty big one, yeah.
Um anyway.
I recognize swallows.
I'm uh I'm an expert in that.
Okay.
Um, Rush, uh, you know, with the whole B uh media bombardment and everything, and going uh attacking the troops and and uh and the present and everything.
I gotta tell you, and I don't know whether it's my personality.
Uh I I I'm in sales and when a doors close, it just fires me up.
But um I I tell you your um call screen, I'm just I I really am, and I'm not just shooting your line.
I'm a very excited about the elections coming up.
And all of this stuff, you know, the the uh those seven senators, I I call them the seven dwarfs.
Uh that did nothing but motivate me to go out and and just and vote again and just talk.
I talk to people all the time about politics.
Some people I turn off because I'm I'm quite passionate about it.
And um I'm just gassed.
I I truly am uh listen to you, you motivate me, and I appreciate it.
Well, you're more than welcome.
And I don't get me wrong.
I mean, I I'm I the the stuff on on uh the media and and gitmo and so forth, it doesn't depress me, it angers me.
These are Americans.
This is a serious issue here in national security.
And it it I think they need to be criticized, and they need to be helped to understand how they're seen and viewed by their consumers.
But in a political sense, there's no question, this is just more the same that went on during the whole campaign of 2004.
It's all going to backfire on them.
The Libs haven't learned anything, they haven't learned didddly squat.
And if they if they keep this up, I mean this is we talk about this all the time.
This isn't inspiring anybody.
This is not broadening their base.
The the media's not helping the Democrats.
They they think they are.
Dean is not helping the Democrats.
In fact, I I think it's just laughable.
There's a piece by Dwayne Wickham in USA Today Today, and you can find these columns sporadically throughout the day, all encouraging Dean to keep talking.
And the Democrats shouldn't be such wusses here about let it let him let him keep talking.
And it just tells me I'm right.
I've known all along that these saying exactly what the Democrats want him to say, and and they're happy about it.
This is who they are today.
They're filled with this kind of rage.
But the idea, you know, a party chairman's supposed to go out there and broaden the base and build the base and enlarge it.
It's not happening.
Uh, you know, human nature hasn't changed.
And uh it and and don't I don't care what kind of cultural shifts there have been, what kind of depravity that some of you might see in the uh in the popular culture, human beings are still human beings, and I will guarantee you that what Dean is doing uh is not inspiring anybody.
You know, let me go back to a story I had yesterday.
I just touched on it a bit, but but uh George Lackoff was in uh was in Fort Bragg, North Carolina last week, and they wrote about it in some newspaper called The Advocate.
I uh I've got it from a website.
I don't even know if it's a newspaper or whatever, but it's uh written by a guy named Frank Hartzell of The Advocate.
And uh the headline, liberals must speak from the heart, not polls, Lakov says.
And my point is they can't.
They are so poll-driven, they're so consumed with doing what they think the American people want them to do, and that's what's crazy about.
I doubt that they've got any focus group data that says the American people want a non-stop barrage of doom, gloom, pessimism, and hate.
But they can't be honest about who they are.
Can you imagine a liberal coming?
I do want to raise your taxes.
And I want government growing, and I want national health care, and I don't want you to have as much control over your money and leisure time as you as you would like.
Because I don't think you have the ability to manage your life the way we in government can manage it for you.
Can tell me, can liberals say this and get elected today?
They can't.
And they at least know that.
So everything is a game.
How can we fool them today?
Uh Lakoff uh is said here, one of the great thinkers of our time.
Uh says conservatives figured out 30 years ago how to communicate in value-based frames, while progressive, see this liberals, you're liberals.
Why can't you even admit that?
While liberals wrongly have seen communication as presenting facts.
So the liberals think they're losing because they're presenting facts.
And how many of you have seen polls that Democrats say they're being too nice?
Democrats are too nice and they and they they acquiesce too often.
Democrats, by contrast, sought guidance from polls rather than their own moral values.
They don't have moral values.
Well, maybe secular moral values.
And they're not in sync with the majority of the American people.
Lackoff theorizes that Americans see the world in moral frames based on their background.
Conservatives are likely to see the world through a strict father military style frame, while liberals are likely to utilize a nurturing community-based parent model.
He may be right about that, because I have a story from the nation today, and this liberal columnist for the nation writes about their version of the ownership society, and it basically is the guy making a case for communes, where everybody owns a common share of everything.
I'll share the details with you when we come back.
Plus Cheney and Howard Dean audio sound bites all coming up.
America's anchor man, play-by-play man of the news commentator, cultural analyst, humorist, and general all-round good guy here on the EIB network.
All right, last night, Fox News Hannity and Colmes.
Sean Hannity talked to Vice President Cheney, and this is what the vice president said about Howard Dean's comment on white Christians in the Republican Party.
Well, I think Howard Dean's over the top.
I've never been able to understand his appeal.
Maybe his mother loved him, but I've never met anybody who does.
He's never won anything, as best I can tell.
He ran for president, lost all the primaries, and now the Democrats have seen fit to make him their national chairman.
Now, what's funny about this is that the media that I've seen today is just excoriating Cheney for keeping this alive.
You know, it's one thing for Dean to say what he's saying, but Cheney is really low ball, low rent here to keep this alive.
This is just this this is just horrible.
He may not go ahead and mention his mother.
I mean, that's his low politics.
That's just low blow politics.
Why in the world would Cheney do this?
And then some Democrats are saying, this is great, this is great, we're getting under this skin and so forth.
Uh here is Dean's response.
Uh he reacted uh uh to the vice president's uh comments.
It's actually not his response, because he said this earlier, but but uh this is I'm wrong.
It's not his response.
This is go back on what Dean said on Saturday.
My view is that Fox News is a propaganda outlet of the Republican Party, and I don't comment on Fox News.
What about what about all the liberals that are on Fox News?
You know, they've got so many liberal commentators on Fox News that I would think when are you liberals that work at Fox News going to stand up and defend a place?
No, seriously.
Can we let's name some names.
Alan Colbs, Nina Easton, Mara Lyerson, uh who else?
Give me some there's a they're all over the place.
Uh Lee, who was uh Clinton needs to defender during a she's now one of their legal commentator babes.
Fine person.
I'm just these are libs.
Uh they have Wendy Murphy that shows up, another Susan Estrich is a regular participant commentator at Fox News.
Uh they're all over the place.
Uh Julian Epstein appears on Fox.
What are these guys going to stand up and defend Fox?
Juan Williams, absolutely Juan Williams, who appears on the Fox News channel and the Fox News Sunday program.
But we're barely scratching the surface.
They got liberals all over the place on that.
Bill O'Reilly.
Uh just kidding, folks.
Just just kidding.
Uh uh.
No, I'm not.
I'm who are some of these other liberals out there?
Uh we have uh uh well they're all they're all over.
I can't think of them.
I saw a couple of them today that uh that regularly appear, and I just can't think of their names.
But when are they gonna stand up and defend the place?
You know, they don't, and they're being they're Alan Ellen Ratner, uh she shows up on Fox now and then as one.
Ellis Hennikan, oh yeah, and how about the that that that mad bunch of media analysts on their show they got doing uh media look at us show?
Uh they've got a blooming, uh a real glittering jewel of colossal ignorance over there named Neil Gabler.
And then they have uh they have what's her face, Jane Hall from the American University.
Uh oh, I mean liberals are all over the place on Fox.
I don't know how many of their news anchors are liberal or not.
They just cover it up if they are.
They're good journalists.
But to say that their propaganda for the Uh is Bill Press there?
Well, he's on a well he's a guest.
Yeah, he shows up as a guest sometime, but uh anyway, propaganda outlet of the uh of the Republican Yeah, hey, they even had the the the punk uh McCallough sat in as a guest host with uh for for Hannity one night with uh with Combs.
Remember that within uh the past week.
Anyway, Mara Lyerson, uh, to prove my point, jumped on Cheney for being wrong about Dean not winning anything, and in a C I told you so.
She says Democrats are not upset at all with Howard Dean.
This was on special report last night with Britt Hume, uh, who said, What about this exchange?
What about Howard Dean, who seems I mean, nothing seems to have changed really since his visit to Capitol Hill last week, uh, in which one was given to believe at least that he was gonna sort of patch things up with elected officials who were nervous about him.
him.
Vice President Cheney was wrong.
Dean won the governorship of Vermont many, many times.
He didn't win any primaries, that's true.
And as far as nobody loving him, there are a lot of people in the Democratic Party who still love him.
You know, that might come as a surprise to Vice President Cheney.
But there are a lot of state party chairs that I talked to last week, including Red State Party chairs who think what he is doing for the party, sending money to their states, hiring, you know, uh field staff, the kinds of things that they want from the DNC, he is doing that.
Yeah, well, how good how well is Mara just Mara, how how how successful is it?
I'm gonna tell you why that works.
State party chairs have egos like anybody else, and if somebody from the national office comes to see 'em, they go gaga.
Whether anything gets done, whether anything is accomplished, is irrelevant.
The fact he's paying some attention to them, they're going gaga.
I saw uh last week, I th I what day was this?
This is this is Tuesday, right?
So it's had to be last week sometime.
Must have been Wednesday or Thursday.
But it was uh I don't think it was Fox.
It was some other some other network.
Might have been Fox.
Doesn't matter.
It was videotape, and Dean was walking into this meeting that he had with Dingy Harry and all the other guys, and there's Mara Lyerson standing out in the hallway uh with a bunch of other journalists, and Dean gives this stops and shakes her hand.
She gives him the biggest grin, the biggest smile.
They shared a couple jokes, shared a couple laughs or whatever.
I mean, it went by pretty fast, but you know, I thought, hmm, people watching this are gonna see Mara Lyerson awfully friendly with Howard Dean out there.
Uh I did.
I'm just sharing the observation.
I'm drawing no conclusions, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm just uh, you know, uh clear that there are alignments.
The point is they're liberals at Fox.
They're liberals at Fox and they don't stand up and defend the place when it's under assault by Howard Dean.
Wonder why that is.
Fox is paying these people to show up.
Uh and and giving them a an audience and a platform that they wouldn't otherwise have.
And yet they don't stand up and defend the place.
And I'm not suggesting Fox should make them.
That's not my point.
They ought to have the manners and the character and the decency themselves to do it.
Otherwise, when Howard Dean says that Fox News is just propaganda for the White House, he's including everybody that works there, including all the liberals.
Here's uh Jacob in North Liberty, Iowa.
Hi, Jacob.
Welcome to the uh program.
Nice to have you with us.
Thanks, Rush.
It's uh it's quite an honor.
You bet, sir.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
If I sound nervous, it's uh just because I get excited talking about this sort of thing.
And I just wanted to relate my story of uh April of 04 and uh flying missions in and out of Abograb prison.
Uh it was under siege, had been for days.
They were uh out of food.
We took in nearly twenty-one thousand meals in one night for the prisoners themselves.
And uh how I relate that to uh the uh spienles of Gitmo and and Abba Grape even back then.
And how we mistreated the prisoners we had taken, we'd flown in and out of there.
Well, we didn't let them starve to death.
Uh we wouldn't have.
And uh although we didn't respect him as much as some might want us to.
We still treat them as human beings.
Wait a minute.
Are you saying that you flew f you you flew meals into Abu Ghrab when it was under siege?
Yeah, had been three days, Rush.
And uh April of 04.
And were did you get shot on when this happened?
Yeah, we had bullet holes.
I took one uh through the billionaire craft into a uh crate of MRE's probably the only thing that stopped it from uh heading up to the drive shaft on the top of the aircraft.
A United States humanitarian mission Received enemy fire.
That's a good point, Rush.
That is a good point.
The insurgents said they were they were sending orders in.
They didn't care where they landed.
Could have been in the prisoners' barracks.
Could have been us.
We're thinking sniper fire from the north, machine gun fire from the south.
Well where would the prisoners want to be, I ask them now.
Would they want to be at Gidmo?
I don't think they take mortar fire there.
No.
I I this thickness is so comical.
It's it's it's a war.
We'll get these military people calling us and they tell us the story.
So it's a war.
And and you listen to the Democrats, the media talk about it, and uh and you'd think that Bush is trying to reform Social Security in Iraq and he's got to be stopped.
Just amazing.
Washington Post today.
Republican ticket 2008, McCain Bush.
That would be John McCain and Jeb Bush.
The most logical Republican ticket if the party remains in the polling doldrums.
This is a column by E.J. Dion Jr.
If President Bush and his political maestro Carl Rove decide that the only way to create a political legacy is to nod toward the Arizona Senator with whom they have battled and feuded, they will go for the guy who can win.
This scenario was outlined to me recently by a shrewd and loyally democratic political operative with personal ties to the McCain camp before Mark McKinnon, one of President's uh top media advisors, publicly confirmed that he would help a McCain presidential run if it materialized.
So uh and and also the the uh column here by Mr. Dion uh Jr.
Uh says that the Democrats actually fear a McCain Jeb Bush ticket.
And he's obviously looking at this Mark McKinnon.
And Mark McKinnon, I don't know if you know the name, Mark McKinnon, uh never left George W. Bush's side in either of his two campaigns.
He was everywhere.
He was the media guru.
People talk about Carl Rove and Carl Rove is is obviously a giant, but McKinnon was right there doing all the media advice, uh uh uh structure, creative, uh, all of that.
And it was it was sort of interesting to me when I read last week that McKinnon was going to go help McCain if McCain actually runs.
Uh, and that's obviously the bounce-off point here for E.J. Dion Jr.'s column.
Uh he concludes this way here is where Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the president's mother, could be a deal closer.
Jeb Bush has said he won't run in 08, but it doesn't rule him out as a vice presidential candidate.
If McCain won, Jeb would be the number two to a president who'll turn 72 on August 29th, 2008, and might well serve only a single term.
If McCain lost, Jeb would have an enhanced national recognition for a run in 2012.
If picking Jeb is the price of winning over George W. McCain will pay it.
So and there's uh also this reference to the Democrats fearing this ticket in uh 2000.
So I tell I'm gonna put this to the test.
I go out there, and I don't care where I go when.
Rush, rush.
It's I get two questions.
Rush, rush, what about Hillary?
What about Hillary?
What are we gonna do?
And the second question is, Rush, Rush, who who's gonna be the Republican nominee in 08?
And I'm gonna have the answer.
I'm gonna say McCain Jeb Bush, and I'm gonna gauge the reaction I get.
And I'll report back after it happens.
Back after this.
Stay with us.
I got another uh another lib for you.
Bob Beckles on Fox all the time, a ren Mondel's campaign in uh 1984.
Chris in Salt Lake City, hello, sir.
Welcome to the uh program.
Thank you, Rush.
Two quick points.
First of all, anyone who's watched Fox News knows that it's pretty far from fair fair and balanced to put somebody like Alan Combs up against Sean Hannity or Juan Williams up against Britt Britt Hume is not exactly fair.
Besides that, you know, most of the people that watch Fox News are conservative Republicans, and about 20% of those thought we actually found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
And one more point that I have is that I think it's laughable that people like you and Bill O'Reilly are actually spokespeople for moral values and conservatism.
Someone who's been divorced three times and is a drug addict, and someone who is a sex offender somehow represents moral values.
Can you tell me how you justify that?
Certainly, sir.
Uh, and I've addressed this on countless previous occasions.
And I'll be glad to humor you in this, even though you'd have no clue what you're talking about in your description of Fox.
Right and wrong don't shift.
What's right, what's wrong are pretty constant.
What's moral and what's immoral, pretty constant.
And just because somebody slips off the path now and then, as everybody does, does not mean that they do not know what's right and wrong, and do not mean that they are disqualified when they identify it.
You want to claim that nobody who has ever fallen off the straight and narrow should be able to comment on anything.
In that case, sir, nobody would be an authority on anything.
I could throw names back at you.
What the hell do we have to listen to Ted Kennedy talk to us about women's rights for?
What the hell do we have to listen to Howard Dean or Bill Clinton talk to us about honesty or morality?
But you won't accuse your own guys of this.
They try to fudge it and deny that it ever happened.
Nobody on our side hides anything about themselves, and they don't make excuses for it or anything of the sort, and are just om honest and upfront about things and trying to do the right thing.
And I have no excuses, and I have no uh no apologies to make for anybody about anything that I say, because I believe it from the bottom of my heart, and I have absolutely no qualms about saying that to you either.
The difficulty you have is hearing it.
No matter who says what's right and wrong, you don't want to hear it because you don't want somebody else defining it for you.
You want to be able to define it yourself.
All of you guys on the left want to have this moving target of what's moral, what's immoral, what's right and what's wrong.
You don't want any standards because you don't want to be held to any.
The only argument you can make to defeat me is one of hypocrisy.
You cannot argue with me on the issues.
You can't spend 10 seconds with me talking about issues.
You only want to talk about me and try to discredit me as some kind of a spokesman for something.
And I'm a spokesman for nothing but myself.
And you can do all you can to try to discredit me, but I would say after 17 years, you and your ilk have failed to do that, and there have been many attempts.
But we continue to ride high here.
We continue to lead the media pack, despite your best efforts to go out there and say that people like me are hypocrites.
Well, in life, practically everybody is a hypocrite at one time or another, but it isn't a crime, and it doesn't disqualify somebody.
All it is is an interesting debating point.
But when you get down to what's right and wrong, good and bad, good and evil, moral or immoral.
We can't count on you guys to give any guidance because you don't want any yourselves.
Who's next?
Uh Mary in St. Augustine, Florida.
Welcome to the program.
Nice to have you with us.
Hey, Rush, I'm one of your greatest cheerleaders.
I cheer you on every day, but I want you to know that you got my son back in college by telling him to pull himself up by his own bootstrings.
He's an American, he has every opportunity.
And after failing out of school because he goofed off, he went back to school.
Oh, we pulled the funds because we said you don't pass, we don't pay.
We pulled all the funds away.
A couple of years later, he started listening to you, went back to college, would not take one penny from his parents, lived in low-income housing, did extremely great in school, paid off his own loan.
Now he is thinking about getting his master's.
He has a very good job.
He's been working about ten years.
And you give a commencement speech every day.
And it is one of the best.
Well, uh Mary, you're very nice to say that.
I I appreciate it.
I I uh but I wouldn't take yourself out of the equation uh in whatever.
Well, I mean, whatever it snapped your your your son around, I wouldn't I wouldn't take you and your husband out of the equation.
Well, I was praying, and you were using your talents on learn from God.
Well he started listening to you, and it took him about six months to get me to listen to you.
And now the whole family listens to you.
Well, you know, it's let me tell you something.
That is very fortunate because had you been the one to suggest he listened to me, he would have rebelled uh just because it was you.
See, the benefit that I have here is I'm not his parent.
Uh and you know, kids rebel.
Uh it's it's like spouses.
You know, I I can tell a couple anything I want, either side, a man or woman in a couple, I can tell Them anything I want and they'll believe me.
But if one of the two tells each other the same thing I told them, doesn't have credibility because the husband or wife was the one saying it.
You know, it's just one of them's always wrong, gotta be.
Nature of the relationship.
So, same thing here with kids, but I appreciate your comments.
We gotta go, though.
Lack of time.
Back in just a sec.
Isn't it funny how these liberals eat their own, calling this show to bash Alan Combs and Juan Williams?
We love Alan Combs on this show, and he gets an unfair rap from the libs out there.
Alan, we think you're great.
Have a great day, folks.
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