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June 13, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 13, 2005, Monday, Hour #2
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I've got a lot of stuff to do here today.
Uh I wasn't here Friday, I've been collecting news since then.
I've got it all stacked here.
I want to try to get uh to as much of it as possible.
In his Time magazine piece, we're still bouncing off of that.
Because as I said last hour, I just I'm so sick and tired of the United States involvement in wars over our own national security being looked at through the template of Vietnam by the American media of the Democratic Party.
It's just it's getting frustrating to the max uh as as it is said, and I don't understand why we don't look at templates of when we've been successful.
Why we don't follow those templates and understand what has to happen in war.
You know, this this is uh these are not therapy sessions, they're not encounter sessions, uh group sessions down at these prisons.
And it's just it's absurd the uh uh the the restraints, constraints that are being placed on people who are in charge of our national security.
Can you think of the dichotomy here or the irony or the conflict?
On the one hand, after 9-11 happens, look at the hell there was to pay.
CIA and the FBI screwed everything up, weren't communicating, nobody knew what was going to happen before it happened because nobody was talking.
We didn't get the information, we didn't get it to the right people.
A 9-11 commission report has all of this in its report, and they're outraged by it.
Everybody was outraged by it.
Now we're in the post-9-11 period.
We've got the guys who are part of the group that did to us what happened on 9-11, and all of a sudden we're not supposed to be able to do what it takes to get information from these people to protect us against another attack or to learn whatever might be necessary to prevent another attack when that's what everybody was upset about in the immediate days after 9-11.
Why didn't we do something to stop this?
Well, okay, we're trying to do something to stop it now.
And guess what?
We have a bunch of people in this country, a bunch of liberals, a bunch of 60s wimps, if you ask me, trying to tie our hands and make sure that we're not able to do to the best of our ability what needs to be done to prevent another attack from happening.
Ditto Iraq, which is that's exactly what Iraq is about now.
It's not about weapons of mass destruction.
It's about establishing that country as a free country with people choosing their own fate there in an attempt to change that cauldron of a pit called the Middle East that spawns all this anti-U.S.
and anti-Western hatred.
And it was said at the outset by President Bush.
It's gonna take time.
Now everybody's running out of patience.
Well, we've lost 1700, why there's ten dead every day.
We gotta get out.
We've needed planned.
People of both parties are getting knobly weed here, or need.
And it's just it's it's it's frustrating as it can be.
I want you to hear two more sound bites on the Gitmo business.
First from Duncan Hunter, again, Fox News Sunday with uh with Chris Wallace, after reading the menu that the detainees get, the food that they get.
He then decided to uh continue with uh another list of benefits that accrue to the prisoners of war at Gitmo.
We feed them now their Islamic food.
We give them honey and dates when they break fast at Ramadan.
We give them prayer beads, prayer oil, all paid for.
In fact, if you did that for American GIs and you did a call to prayer five times a day, the ACLU would sue on the on the basis that we'd broken the separation between church and state.
So my question is we even have we even have footprints that are that are painted at the at the uh prison where guards are knocked a step during prayer time because they will squeak, will make noise and bother the prisoners.
How can you possibly improve that that treatment For the guys who are Osama bin Laden's bodyguards and the guy who was on his way to kill 5,000 American no matter where you put them.
I just this is just stunning.
We can't walk between painted footprints because the boots will squeak and disturb the prisoners of war.
This is, and he's exactly right, by the way, if we tried to allow U.S. soldiers five prayer calls a day, the ACLU would be right in there demanding this not be done because it's separation of church and state.
Yet they are demanding.
These groups are demanding that we acknowledge the religion of these prisoners and let them practice it as it is required.
It's just it's it's silly.
It's just absolutely silly.
And I'll I'll guarantee you this this is not how you win wars, folks.
It's not how you win wars because winning wars is not about making your enemy like you.
Winning wars is not about having everybody love you.
Winning wars is not about being respected because people like you.
We are be I bet you we have becoming the biggest standing joke in terrorist cells around the country and around the world that we could ever imagine.
I'll bet bin Laden and his boys are laughing themselves.
I bet they have never been happier.
They probably cannot believe what they've managed to pull off here, and they couldn't have done it without the help of Americans.
They couldn't have done it without the U.S. media.
They couldn't have done it without the the 60s generation from this country, which uses as its template for war Vietnam.
On Face the Nation, Bob Schiefer interviewed Leakey Leahy, uh Senator DePenz from uh from Vermont.
And uh it this is this is this is more the same.
This is Democrat senators acting as defense lawyers for the terrorists that we are holding at Guantanamo Bay.
Schaefer says to Leahy, well, shouldn't should we just close Gitmo?
I think that's it.
We have to, because uh either that or at least have the administration come out and be honest about it, say who's being held there, why they're being held there.
We understand there's even some people that were there because uh bounty hunters in Afghanistan just turned them over to us and said, Here, give us money, these are bad guys, and so they're put in this in this black hole.
I think as long as that exists, we're going to have one more rallying cry against the United States, and it does reflect poorly on a country that believes in the rule of law.
Reflect poorly.
Depends on how you define poorly.
Yeah, you reflect poorly to me, Senator.
You and your core cohorts are reflecting poorly on this country to me.
But I I will guarantee you, who in the world are you trying to impress?
Who in the world does he want to think positively of it?
What in the world is out there that Senator Leahy is so concerned about?
Do you want bin Laden to like us?
Who does he care that likes us?
Sounds like it's the enemy to me.
I I'll tell you for this why these people can't be trusted with national security.
I rue the day these people are ever in charge of it.
It's gonna be an absolute nightmare.
In the remaining time, Mike, I uh I want sound bites 13 and 14 here.
Kurt Weldon, we've got him.
He was on Meet the Press yesterday with Tim Russert, uh and uh Biden was also there, but Tim Russert said, Congressman Weldon, there's a report, uh, the Washington Post today that in July of 2002, Tony Blair, Prime Minister of Britain received a memo.
This is before the Downing Street memo we talked about a couple weeks ago, uh, which said that little thought had been given to the protracted and costly occupation post-war.
You think that's fair?
I think what's caused the increasing problem that we're seeing is the increased activity by Syria and Iran, which for some reason our intelligence community does not want to acknowledge or deal with.
Um in fact, uh, as we talked to the Iraqi officials and we met with the Speaker of the Parliament, the Prime Minister, the defense minister, the two generals in charge of the Iraqi military, uh, the chairman of the constitutional uh writing authority.
Um, we heard a common theme that Syria may have the largest number from outside of Iraq in country, but Iran overwhelmingly has the quality behind the insurgency.
And we've got to come to grips with that.
Well, it's not an insurgency, if you ask me.
I don't know how you can call this an insurgency when it's not even Iraqis that comprise the majority of the people we're fighting in Iraq.
If it's Iranians and Syrians, we have a full-fledged war going on here.
And I've I've I've all I've thought for the longest time that this is how we're fighting Iran, that this is actually the war with Iran that we're destined to have.
And this is the first phase of it.
And it I just I Just I think that it's it's it's silly to continue to call this an insurgency.
Now, whether the intelligence agency and community here doesn't want to acknowledge or deal with this, uh that if that's true, then that's just another giant question mark I've got.
Why?
After everything else going on.
Now we know that the well yes we do.
Sadly, we do know that we've got some people in the CIA that really are not in favor of the Bush administration, just like we have people in the State Department who are not.
We have people in both agencies that love nothing more themselves than to see Bush humiliated and defeated.
Uh and it's you know, it's one thing for that to exist, but to have that alignment then with the major media and the Democratic Party in this country and whatever number of enemies outside.
I'll tell you, we're fighting much more than just uh Syrians and Iranians in Iraq, and we're fighting much more than just Al Qaeda, be they in Gitmo or Pakistan or wherever.
We're fighting our own domestic opposition as well at the same time, and it's and it's maddening.
Really is one more from Weldon.
Uh Russert says, um By the way, we we're hearing that bin Laden is in uh Iran.
Is that true?
He's been in Al of Iran, and now we have military generals telling me that.
Interestingly enough, the CIA totally refuted that when I first went to them.
And by the way, the person who gave me this entire lead was a former Democrat member of Congress.
Do you believe that Osama bin Laden's in Iran today?
Today I don't know.
I gave uh the CIA hits over the past uh five months that he was there twice.
Uh and I also told him two years ago he was in a small town in the southern part of uh Iran called Ladiz, ten kilometers inside the border with Pakistan and Balochistan.
I say he's been and out repeatedly.
He's uh got a book now, does uh Weldon, and I have it.
Just arrived in the mail today.
It's called Countdown to Terror.
And he apparently is going is is he's going public because he's been trying to alert people uh to various items of interest he's been told and is finding no interest.
Uh no takers for his uh information.
And that's what this is about.
All right, quick timeout, we'll come back, uh, get some phone calls in and move on to other exciting items in the stacks of stuff.
Sit tight, won't be long be right.
Ditto cams on, by the way, too.
So hello.
As I was saying, a ditto camazon that's been on since the beginning of the second hour.
It'll be on for all of our remaining broadcast time here at the EIB network today.
Hartford, Connecticut.
We go there first.
Rick, glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the program.
Say, thanks for taking my call, Russ.
Yeah.
Uh, you know, I was originally calling about press coverage of the war uh or wars in general now versus uh years ago, like during World War II.
But I don't know if you'd permit me to ask something, you know, want to if I could clarify something about your position on the whole torture thing, since I've been listening to you talk about that for the last half hour.
Yeah, but I want you to I you can do that, but I I wan also want the uh the question that you uh originally called ask.
Sure, I'd be happy to do that.
I but basically I'm trying to understand the the the thing with the water on the head that you were joking about and joking about water balloons and Halloween and all that.
Aren't they describing uh a torture technique where they put a bag over your head and dunk it in water and make you think you're suffocating, give you the idea that you're gonna be killed, and then they take the bag off right when you're about to pass out and then they do it over and over again?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I'm just is that what they were describing or I don't know.
I would I he didn't say that.
He just said pouring water over their heads and dripping water.
He didn't say anything about a head in the bag, so I don't want to assume that we were tying people up with bags around their necks and then dumping them in water if the guy was but if we were, would you be fine?
No, no, no, no, no, not if we were, don't give me if.
It's not even been alleged that's what we're doing.
I believe.
My definition of torture is not what the subject here today is.
Don't throw this back on me.
I uh we're not talking about my definition of torture.
We're talking about what was reported in Time magazine and how it's being used now by all the other media to drum up even more opposition to the war, drum up more opposition to the way we're treating prisoners and the whole objective here.
All I'm suggesting to you is that the template that we're using to fight this war is a template that we used in a losing effort and a humiliating effort rather than a template such as World War II when we were victorious and did what we had to do to protect this country and other free people around the world from tyrants and dictators, thugs, you name it, mass murderers, whoever you want to call them.
Uh in fact, you and I might disagree less than than you might gather from from my tone.
Uh the the thing that has me kind of confused is my sense is if you found out we were doing that to folks, You wouldn't be all that upset.
And so and and and one can argue about that.
I mean, maybe that's the right position to have.
Maybe we should be doing that to these guys.
But but why go to all the effort to uh give the impression that in fact we're not doing that.
Uh who's who's doing that?
Well, when you're joking about how it might be a refreshing dunk like having gator apes built on you during a game or I'm reacting to what was written in Time magazine, as were the people on Fox when they were interviewing the author, the writer of the story.
Same thing with the swelled up limbs.
He talked about water dropping, you know, water drops on people's to simulate suffocation.
That may be waterboarding.
I don't know.
But if it was, why didn't he say that?
Well, I wonder why you wouldn't say that.
I mean, you knew the term, I didn't.
Uh why wouldn't I?
Because it wasn't alleged.
Yeah.
It wasn't alleged, and it has been elsewhere.
And I'll tell you this, I've when waterboarding has come up on this program, you know what I've learned?
I've because soldiers email me.
Soldiers consider me a friend, which honors me.
Many people in the special forces have told me they're forced to be trained on these types of techniques to be able to withstand the torture they're gonna get.
You know, it's brutal out there.
It war is what it is.
It isn't romper room.
It's it's not a therapy session.
It's not feel-good time.
It's not what it is.
And it's it's the the idea that this stuff is new and unique and barbaric, it's just offensive as it can be.
We have watched videotape or we've seen still shots of Americans whose heads are about to be cut off.
And I don't have anybody calling here asking me why are we putting up with this?
This is horrible.
Who who who's doing this and why aren't we doing something about it?
Didn't have much reaction even from the media about Danny Pearl's head being cut off.
You know, I it it's almost like they expect that we deserve this because we're started this.
We invaded these people's land.
Uh uh but but th these these kinds of things happen routinely in war, and they always have.
And I know the argument, well, we cannot win the war by becoming our enemies.
We're not, we're not cutting off heads.
We are not mass murdering people and putting them in graves.
We're not mass raping people and putting them in graves.
We're not doing anything of the sort that our enemies do.
We're you heard the menu.
You heard the fact that we have to paint footprints on concrete or wherever the floor down there, soldiers not allowed to walk there during prayer time because their boots mate squeak and upset the prisoners who are praying.
You don't ask me about any of that.
None of that seems to get your curiosity up.
None of that seems to raise any hackles on you whatsoever.
But something that's not written, waterboarding or dunking people with bags over their heads, that does get your attention, even though it's not been alleged by a guy in Time magazine who's trying to write the worst story he can about the way prisoners are being treated by Americans.
We'll forego your second question.
Here's Greg in Keystone Heights, Florida.
Welcome to the program.
Nice to have you with us.
Thank you so much, Greg Rush.
God bless America and God bless Rush Limbach for being the voice of America.
I lost my oldest son in Iraq July 20th, 2003, and from that day forward I have been on a mission, and it just disgusts me of the way that the media has portrayed my son was not is not a number.
He was my son, he was somebody's brother, somebody's husband, and the way that they're doing this.
I blame Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, John Carey, all them a year ago, you go back to April.
And I made this comment on another nationwide no radio show a year ago.
I blame them for the deaths of our American soldiers.
And every time they stand up there, they are the biggest ally that our enemy has.
And I believe that from the bottom of my heart.
I absolutely do.
Why?
Well, the what what is it?
Give me an example of something one of those guys has said that makes you anytime they go out there and talk about what we're not doing or what we're doing too.
That's thing in Git Mob or uh Abu Grave a year ago.
That was a joke.
That was an absolute joke.
I did it on low I talked in local talk radio shows Almost verbatim of what you had said.
Somebody putting a dog collar around somebody and putting underwear on some woman.
I emailed the president of the United States last May 15th.
After he had just gone on Adju Brave, whatever the name of the Arab television show was, and apologized for what we had done.
They the next day they executed that kid from Pennsylvania, cut his head off.
I understand.
All right.
Thanks.
Thanks for the call.
Greg, I appreciate it.
We gotta go because time's up for this uh segment.
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I just received a couple of emails uh uh ref referencing our last caller.
He said he was on another uh national talk show.
And uh why didn't you ask him which one, Rush?
Because I didn't know there were any others.
And I think I know, I know, but I his son died in Vietnam.
I did in Iraq.
That was not uh he was not the he was near tears in that call.
Uh his name was Greg, and I could and uh and I could tell he's uh he's very emotional about this.
And once again, you know, uh it to all of you libs listening out there, you know, we try to accommodate.
You know, we've had success recently.
We've had some pretty good lib calls lately, but it it it seems like most of the time, whatever the subject matter, I end up becoming the issue.
The substance and the points I have made or that I am reacting to that have been made by others are ignored, and I get peppered with what if questions.
What do you think?
What would you say about fifth and so forth?
And I know why, because I am influential.
And they want to try to catch me in some sort of hypocrisy or uh or whatever.
In fact, let's go to the audio some to prove this.
Do you know who I'm being compared to?
And do you know who is being justified in doing what he's doing because I do what I do?
Howard Dean.
Snerdley's all upset about it, but no, it's true.
Howard Dean is being justified in what he does because I do what I do.
Let's go to the audio tape, CNN Saturday with Carol Lynn, or I'm sorry, Sunday, and she's talking to their political analyst over there, Carlos Watson.
And she said, What is a party do with a guy that they don't quite know how to channel?
I mean, if the Democrats had a Carl Rove, what would Carl Rove tell the party to do with Howard Dean?
Republicans have a whole chorus, if you will, of political provocateurs.
Theirs are in the media, whether it's Rush Limbaugh or others.
And the reality is, with the exception of Michael Bohr, who shows up with the movie every two or three years, Democrats don't really have that political provocateur to move the needle and ultimately to reshape debate.
So there's a role for Howard Dean if he's managed and used properly.
So you know what this no, you know what this all adds up to?
This is yet another testimony, more testimony that there is no liberal Rush Limbaugh.
And that Howard Dean has to be it.
And if if Howard Dean fails, they will have failed yet again to come up with a Rush Limbaugh.
That's why Mr. Snurdley, the Libs call here and demand that I issue policy statements on behalf of the conservative movement.
That's why they do it.
That's why they're trying to trip me up with tricks and so forth.
But I'm used to those tricks.
I can spot them a mile away.
I can spot them when the caller's still on hold.
All I have to do is look at a subject line.
I can tell right off the bat that a trick's coming.
I'm telling you, I know these people.
Let's go on to uh this is this is internet quality this next bite.
Last Thursday on uh on a Boston, I don't know if it's TV or radio station, but uh WFXT.
I don't know whether that's TV or radio, but the uh it's TV?
Okay.
HR knows because that's where his wife's from.
Uh which means he has to go there.
Anyway, uh the Democratic chairman in Massachusetts, Phil Johnston, was on, and this this is what he said about Howard Dean.
I love it because he's getting under the skin of the uh right-wing Republicans.
If it disturbs Rush Limbaugh, so much the better, as far as I'm concerned, it's about time I got disturbed.
See, my friends, he's just got I mean, if they think this disturbs me, I mean, they do not understand disturbed.
And I don't think they probably do understand disturbed, because if they did, they'd understand themselves.
But they they don't Dean doesn't disturb me.
Can we go back to the archives and get me saying, Dean, keep talking, keep mentioning my name?
I love this.
You're only helping me in ways you can't even imagine.
So but obviously there's some conservatives disturbed about it.
So when conservatives are disturbed, according to Phil Johnson, if conservatives are disturbed, it means Rush Limbaugh.
Rush Limbaugh equals conservatives.
Uh in this country.
And finally, Alan Colbs, our old buddy at Hannity and Colb's, Alan Cole, we love Alan Colbs.
He's he's uh it it's is we just we just love him.
And uh this this is what he had to say about Howard Dean's uh white Christians comment.
I just want to point out that some of the very same things Dean says, for example, Rush Limbaugh said making election day a holiday won't help Democrats, most of them don't work anyway, which I pointed out.
You know, when Howard Dean was talking about Republicans haven't done an honest day's work in their life, I said on this program, I said, can we really blame him?
I mean, I am out there saying that most Democrats don't work, so what's the big deal of having a national holiday on election day?
But I if they think I'm disturbed, I am flattered, I'm honored they're comparing their party chairman to me.
And they are using me as the example of what their party chairman must do in order to level the playing field, which of course is something that they well, but no way you're missing the point.
You're missing the snerdle's yelling at me, but you are humorous, Dean is ugly than me.
You're missing the point.
The point is how they look at me.
We look at Dean, we see the chairman of the Democratic National Committee.
I mean, that's in the past, that's a lofty position.
They haven't been too many of those people, and it's it's an important role, fundraising, national uh uh efforts to influence votes for Democrats and so forth.
Who are they comparing him to?
Me.
And they're justifying Dean's existence because of me.
I I've I'm doing even more of a service than a I am causing the Democratic Party to go insane even more than I knew.
I'm causing the Democratic Party to lose its collective mind even better or more than I knew was happening.
And all of this is a testament to it.
So, far from being disturbed, I mean, this is this is tantamount evidence that the mission here is succeeding.
I mean, it's it's right up the alley.
And here we have uh got a couple Howard Dean stories here.
LA Times, Dean's zeal, this is from June the 10th.
Dean's zeal is looking like zealotry, some fear.
Tone down the rhetoric, Democrats tell their leader after his recent inflammatory remarks.
Uh it's by Richard Simon.
When Howard Dean was chosen to head their party, Democrats looked forward to the benefits of his bristling energy and zest for political combat.
But at a private meeting Thursday on Capitol Hill, a number of worried Senate Democrats warned Dean that he had been going overboard and needed to choose his words more carefully.
And in fact, the American Spectator online today has an entirely different characterization of this meeting that occurred Thursday.
Remember, they had a press conference after this meeting.
Well, they met the press, they're all sitting around in chairs, and it looked hunky-dory in there.
Uh, but the American Spectator is reporting that Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean traveled to Capitol Hill on Thursday for what amounted uh to a visit to the political woodshed, meeting with Senate Democrats.
Dean was essentially told to hire a couple of speech writers and stick to his script.
He'd been invited to the meeting before his last public embarrassment when he claimed the Republican Party was nothing more than a bunch of Christian white males.
Here's a now, Brian, Brian Wilson at Fox asked a great question, by the way, the other day.
Dean's on record is saying, I hate Republicans and everything they stand for, remember?
And then he said, and they're just a bunch of white Christians in that part.
Does it mean he also hates white Christians?
You know, you ask that question, and uh and uh the Democrats behind closed doors have to do a Dean scream of their own.
But behind closed doors is where the truth is is happening, but we're not being shown the truth because Democrats still are unable to be truthful in public.
But apparently Dean was taken to the woodshed and he was told to shut it up.
But when the meeting was over, every Democrat in the world came out and said, Hey, we support this guy, he's doing great, and they do.
The bottom line is he's saying what they all want to say themselves, but don't dare.
This is what they think, folks.
He's articulating it.
You don't see any real effort to get rid of Dean, do you?
Try this quote.
This is from a Democrat political strategirist, unnamed in the American Spectator story, says, You have to understand the relationship between the Democrats and the mainstream media.
Dean says outrageous things about Republicans, and then the mainstream media reports on that crazy old Howard Dean.
And then because they have to have balance, being the mainstream media, they'll go out and report on that crazy Tom Delay.
On some level, there are a lot of Democrats who think that Howard Dean's helping us, if only because it disguises the fact that our House and Senate guys have nothing to say and no ideas.
So Dean's killing two birds with one stone.
He's saying what a lot of Democrats in their kook base think.
He's saying what a lot of Democrats don't dare say themselves.
He's also generating more negative publicity and news for Republicans because the media is so insistent on balance.
Ha ha.
But in that sense, I know what the guy's point is.
I mean, you'll never have a story about just how rotten Howard Dean is without some reporter feeling compelled to.
Well, but there's some rotten Republicans too, and Tom Delay is the guy they focus on.
So this Democrat says the more Tom Delay's kept in the news as a rotten guy, the better for us.
And it's the third thing that's good about it is a great camouflage because our party really doesn't believe anything.
Our party doesn't stand for anything.
And we know that.
They had a three-hour policy meeting the other day, couldn't figure out what they believed in.
Couldn't fail.
They said they got close, but they still weren't ready to announce it.
But then the next paragraph of the story is, well, that's that's not what House and Senate Democrats necessarily believe.
Last week, when Senate Minority Leader Harry Reed called a press conference to discuss the Democrats' legislative agenda, he could barely get a word in on policy, and in the end deflected and disavowed Dean.
It's getting to the point where Dean may be just a two-year transitional party leader, says a senior Democratic Senate leadership aide.
He might stay in place, but there would be another more ideologically centrist figure uh there to overshadow him.
Dean thinks the party needs a tough talk.
There are a lot of us who think the party just needs to talk sense.
So behind closed doors, yeah, there might be some conflict over what to do about Dean, but they don't have the guts to get rid of him, and the reason they don't have the guts to get rid of him is because the peasants with the pitchforks from moveon.org and a Democrat underground would march on Capitol Hill and demand the heads of the Democrats that got rid of Howard Dean, because he is saying what they think.
Then you've got this LA Times deal.
Dean's zeal looking like zealotry, some fear.
Uh the next story is uh Washington Post on June 11th.
Democrat leaders back Dean, don't want to wimp.
Democratic National Committee leaders embraced Howard Dean's Saturday and urged him to keep fighting despite a flap over his blunt comments on Republicans.
After a meeting of the DNC's 40 member executive committee at a downtown hotel, members said that Dean was doing exactly what they elected him to do to build a party in all states.
And aggressively challenge Republicans.
So which is it?
Last week it was the um San Francisco Chronicle in Boston Globe that had two totally opposite stories about Dean.
And Friday it was the LA Times, Dean not looking good.
Saturday, Washington Post, Democrat leaders back Dean don't want wimp.
And then to add insult to injury, Michael Goodwin, yesterday in the New York Daily News, Howard and Hillary sing the same tune.
And I this this one fascinated us.
This this column fascinated me because I know that so many of you people have fallen for whoever is putting this idea in your head that Dean's doing what he's doing to make every other Democrat, including Hillary, look moderate.
That's sophistry.
And what what what uh Michael Goodwin's piece is is basically comparing quotes from Hillary and Dean to show that they're the same person.
They're absolutely the same person.
I'll share some of these with you when we come back.
Don't go away.
Look at this.
How many of you people search Google?
Use Google just have you noticed that it's it's I I tried something.
I set up one of these news alerts featuring my name.
And it only returns the most outrageous, wacky liberal references to me that are made.
There may be a couple of conservative sites show up, but a vast majority of them are lib.
It's just incredible.
And I just saw one.
They're running a uh a headline.
They got they got a picture of Dick Cheney in the headline on Google News.
U.S. VP Cheney says torture facility will stay open.
It's about Gitmo.
That's the headline.
Torture facility will stay open.
Now, If if I'm telling you, if some of you people either get offended when I talk about the domestic opposition that we face in this country, not just our actual enemies across the seas.
Uh just take a look around and don't make me the issue come to grips with reality.
Here's Michael Goodwin, the New York Daily News, a column from yesterday.
Howard Dean's all the rage, the loudmouth leader of the Democratic Party, has set off fireworks with his nasty broadsides at Republicans.
He's been so harsh that some in his own party want to muzzle him.
Here's a taste of the tone.
Right now we have a White House and a majority in Congress who are systematically weakening the democratic traditions and institutions on which this nation was built.
They're turning back the clock.
They're tearing down the building blocks of democracy, turning the clock back on the 20th century, turning the progress back beyond Franklin Roosevelt, even beyond Teddy Roosevelt.
Oops, beg your pardon.
That wasn't Howard Dean.
That was Senator Hillary Clinton speaking at a Democratic dinner in Minnesota in April.
Here was Dean speaking on the same topic, the Senate filibuster rule at a Take Back America conference in Washington on June 2nd.
This administration is beginning to erode the core of our democracy.
The great genius of American democracy is that if 48% of you vote one way, you still have some say.
Now they're trying to eliminate that.
The accusations identical, the words are interchangeable, and it's not a unique event.
Dean, of course, openly admits his far-left views.
Clinton has gone out of her way to emphasize more centrist values.
She's quoted from the Bible, calls herself a praying person, and has urged common ground on abortion.
She appeared with Newt Gingrich, a darling of the right to discuss health care.
But an examination of many of their speeches to party faithful and at fundraising events shows that Dean and Clinton often say very similar things.
Dean occasionally gave goes way over the top, but most make it seem uh that they share a speechwriter, if not a brain, in their harsh attacks on Republicans.
Here's some some examples.
On GOP honesty.
Hillary said, it's very hard to stop people who have no shame about what they're doing.
It's very hard to stop people who've never been acquainted with the truth.
Dean.
Republicans, they can do that because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives.
On the Republicans and religion, Hillary said, some honestly believe they're motivated by the truth, they're motivated by a higher calling, they're motivated by motivated by, I guess, a direct line to the heavens.
Howard Dean said, Republicans all behave the same.
They all look the same.
It's pretty much a white Christian party.
On Republican power.
Hillary said, there's never been an administration, I don't believe in our history, more intent upon consolidating and abusing power to further their own agenda.
Howard Dean.
This is a culture of corruption and abuse of power in Washington.
It's what happens when one party's in charge of everything.
On ballot box problems, Hillary, too many communities, too many people of color, too many college students are effectively denied an equal right to cast their vote.
Howard Dean.
The Republicans are all about suppressing votes.
Two voting machines if you live in a black district, ten voting machines if you live in a white district.
I think every single American ought to be able to vote.
There's one difference between them.
He has promised not to run for president in 2008.
So for all of you who think that Hillary's out there saying things to, you know, that Dean is giving cover to Hillary, the real message is that they are saying the same things.
And nobody is complaining about Hillary saying them when she says them.
Nobody.
So Dean, if he's giving her cover, it's the cover of similarity.
Be back after this and continue.
Stay with us.
We have a couple of Supreme Court decisions today.
Nothing major.
Well, actually, one of them could be.
I'm I actually think that if this court doesn't change, we're going to uh eventually eliminate the death penalty in this country.
I actually think that's where this court is headed.
And I'll share the details of my thinking, which I'm sure you're all uh curious about when the next hour uh gets underway.
We have some other things in the stacks too, plus more audio sound bites, and of course, the excitement of your phone calls.
So it's all going to be a great mix, and we'll return El Quico.
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