RadixJournal - Richard Spencer - Andrew Wilson Vs. Bloodthirsty Fascist Women
Aired: 2026-05-01
Duration: 42:04


=== Primitive Voting Arguments (11:55) ===

[00:00:05]  The best argument against this nonsense, and I'll let him talk more, is first off against the force doctrine.
[00:00:12]  Just saying, Andrew, I think I bench more than you do.
[00:00:17]  I could beat you up if we ever got into a fight.
[00:00:19]  So, should my vote, like, should you not vote then?
[00:00:23]  Or should my vote be like 1.3 Andrew Wilson votes?
[00:00:29]  And then, like, the NFL, like, if you're a linebacker in the NFL, you're like 2.8 Spencer votes because.
[00:00:38]  They could all beat me up.
[00:00:40]  But then there are some people whom Andrew Wilson could beat up.
[00:00:43]  So they're like at a 0.7 level of vote.
[00:00:46]  Like, this is just sort of ridiculous on some level.
[00:00:49]  I mean, come on.
[00:00:51]  I don't know how much force Andrew is able to use.
[00:00:55]  And the gun, which I also think he supports, is the ultimate equalizer.
[00:01:01]  You could perhaps plausibly make this argument in a totally primitive society that no doubt was on some.
[00:01:11]  Elementary level, the root of patriarchy is just pure upper body strength.
[00:01:16]  I get it.
[00:01:17]  But with a gun, doesn't this just render all of this meaningless?
[00:01:23]  A woman can pull a trigger of a gun, she's got enough grip strength to do that.
[00:01:29]  And that renders her your equal when it comes to defending your land or something.
[00:01:36]  She can shoot an intruder as easily as you can.
[00:01:41]  So, what are we talking about, really?
[00:01:44]  You don't need women to protect, excuse me, you don't need men to protect property.
[00:01:49]  Now, yeah, sure, men are probably more likely to be badass and so on.
[00:01:56]  We've got the testosterone molecule.
[00:02:00]  But my point remains like, what are you talking about?
[00:02:04]  Secondly, as many people have pointed out, all male suffrage is like a passing.
[00:02:14]  Moment in the history of liberalism.
[00:02:19]  All only males get to vote.
[00:02:21]  All males get to vote, rather.
[00:02:24]  The tendency is no one voting.
[00:02:26]  Now, there are interesting examples of slave owning democracies where there is a sort of tribal egalitarianism, you could say.
[00:02:37]  But basically, once you go down the road of all male suffrage, you are going to be at all female suffrage and all race suffrage.
[00:02:48]  In short order.
[00:02:50]  Once you cross that Rubicon of class, I guess you could say, or just the democratic impulse is released, you are going to be at women voting in 25 years.
[00:03:04]  Maybe it will take 50, but in this day and age with the internet, it will probably take two.
[00:03:11]  So, this idea that they want to go back to like this fleeting moment of all male suffrage.
[00:03:19]  Before female suffrage is just absurd.
[00:03:24]  They want to go back to this democratic, like transitionary point, but they want to free, you know, capture it in amber, freeze it in ice, and that will be the Christian society going forward.
[00:03:36]  This is just extremely naive, totally ahistorical and misinformed.
[00:03:45]  If you're looking at feminism, for instance, you had the anti suffragettes and then the suffragettes, but the anti suffragettes' arguments were way better.
[00:03:53]  The argument was pretty simple.
[00:03:54]  It just worked like this: that you cannot erode or get rid of the patriarchy because you always have to appeal to it for your rights.
[00:04:02]  And that's a fundamental truth.
[00:04:04]  And since that's a fundamental truth, I've never seen a great reason why women should be able to vote.
[00:04:09]  Because they can vote to send men to war that they themselves do not have to go fight.
[00:04:14]  They are not beholden to the draft.
[00:04:16]  Only men are.
[00:04:18]  And they can say, well, you're not beholden to the draft perhaps because you're too old for it.
[00:04:22]  But you were beholden to the draft when you were not too old for it.
[00:04:25]  So your time could have come.
[00:04:27]  We're in a strange moment where people are pouring their most private thoughts into AI health issues, business ideas, political opinions.
[00:04:35]  Things you wouldn't even tell some of your friends.
[00:04:37]  Could you not flip this argument the other way around and say women are able to vote, men are able to vote on things that affect women?
[00:04:45]  Don't we need women as well?
[00:04:47]  Like, you know, the whole childbirth thing, like on some level, in order to exist, we have to always appeal to women and seduce women.
[00:04:56]  This is just such a kind of like dude guy type argument of like, I'm stronger, so like, This woman has to appeal to my rights.
[00:05:07]  I mean, it's just very.
[00:05:09]  Women that don't affect men.
[00:05:10]  Right.
[00:05:10]  Way naive.
[00:05:11]  Well, all kinds of things.
[00:05:12]  For example, their right to vote.
[00:05:14]  I mean, among other things.
[00:05:15]  But, you know, things to do with sexual health, abortion, all kinds of things, right?
[00:05:20]  Well, I don't understand.
[00:05:21]  Abortion does have to do with men.
[00:05:23]  Okay, fine.
[00:05:23]  I mean, it does, but it has more to do with women because it affects them more directly.
[00:05:27]  But lots of other things.
[00:05:28]  I mean, men could pass a law that women have to wear a headscarf, for example, right?
[00:05:33]  So our votes affect each other.
[00:05:36]  That's not an argument to deny the other sex the vote.
[00:05:39]  Oh, I don't understand.
[00:05:40]  Like, your argument is women can vote to send men to war.
[00:05:44]  And my argument is it's called force doctrine.
[00:05:47]  My argument reduces to this.
[00:05:50]  If you always have to appeal to one sex for your rights, right, then why are you being imbued with the responsibility of that at all?
[00:06:00]  Because women have to appeal to men for the rights.
[00:06:02]  And anytime men want to take rights away from women, they can, like that.
[00:06:06]  And there's not a damn thing women can do.
[00:06:08]  Why don't we do it then?
[00:06:10]  And he seems to have this idea that, like, the.
[00:06:13]  I'm just going to get a little nasty here with Andrew, actually.
[00:06:17]  I just am.
[00:06:18]  Like, you had this idea of the patriarchy being like the men, the boys were in charge, right?
[00:06:25]  All the boys, we all kind of worked together and we're like, should we grant them rights?
[00:06:29]  Should we?
[00:06:30]  I don't know.
[00:06:30]  I'm not sure about that.
[00:06:31]  Let's talk about it at the boardroom men's club where we're all members.
[00:06:37]  Yeah, the world wasn't like that, Andrew.
[00:06:39]  And people like you, Andrew.
[00:06:43]  We were no doubt subordinated to other men who had a force doctrine over you due to their ability to wield the powers of the state or to wield the powers of religion, etc.
[00:07:00]  Like, I don't think your ancestors were ever in charge of anything.
[00:07:07]  And patriarchy isn't just like the battle of the sexes, patriarchy implies all sorts of different things, which I presume you don't like.
[00:07:19]  Because you seem to be arguing for like men voting because we can deadlift more and thus protect property or something like that.
[00:07:31]  I don't think you, Andrew, would be like at the top of the hierarchy of the patriarchy at any point.
[00:07:41]  About it.
[00:07:41]  And if you want proof of that, let me show you half the world.
[00:07:45]  Anytime collectively men say women have no rights, they don't have any.
[00:07:50]  And that's that.
[00:07:51]  And there's not a damn thing that they can do about it.
[00:07:54]  So the idea that they can erode the patriarchy or remove the patriarchy or in some way.
[00:08:00]  It's like men are just like, we're just refusing to say this, but we can all just say this.
[00:08:06]  I mean, this is just totally ridiculous.
[00:08:11]  We all just stand up and shell, you know, shell one more.
[00:08:14]  All right, no more voting, bitches.
[00:08:18]  Why don't you try this?
[00:08:19]  Why don't all men and women stand up and say Montana is a sovereign state and we are going to seize, because we said so, we are going to seize the nuclear weapons stationed here in Montana.
[00:08:35]  And we are going to pursue a foreign policy that is opposed to that of the United States.
[00:08:41]  What would happen if all men or men and women said that?
[00:08:46]  What would happen?
[00:08:48]  We'd all be killed in a matter of a week, basically.
[00:08:54]  Like, I mean, there was Shays Rebellion, which is about taxes.
[00:08:57]  I don't, a tax rebellion, would they start killing you?
[00:09:01]  Maybe not.
[00:09:02]  Probably put you in jail at the most.
[00:09:05]  You get my point.
[00:09:08]  There are sovereign entities.
[00:09:09]  It's not like a male female society where men say this and it just happens, or women say this and it just happens.
[00:09:19]  It does not work that way.
[00:09:21]  There's actually concentrations of sovereign power that are beyond sex and actually are beyond even humans.
[00:09:30]  The state is its own instrument and entity, humans sort of work in it and for it.
[00:09:39]  But you can't, it's like 51 out of 100 men stand up and say, Texas is a sovereign state and we're leaving America.
[00:09:49]  That's just irrelevant to say that.
[00:09:53]  Yeah, if you're serious about it, they're going to kill you.
[00:09:56]  If you're unserious about it, yeah, you're fine.
[00:09:59]  You have free speech, whatever.
[00:10:01]  Like Andrew Wilson is a creature of the internet to a very large degree.
[00:10:05]  I don't necessarily say that as a criticism.
[00:10:07]  I am also a creature of the internet to such degrees, to a large degree.
[00:10:14]  Do you really believe that, like, you can have your cake and eat it too?
[00:10:19]  That men could just stand up one day and say, Women, you ain't voting.
[00:10:25]  And, like, you could only have a job if your husband agrees to it.
[00:10:28]  And then all the money goes to you or whatever.
[00:10:31]  Do you think that you could sort of have the internet and that?
[00:10:36]  Like, this would all be visible and discussed and talked about.
[00:10:41]  But just because men want it and men have.
[00:10:45]  Testosterone and upper body strength that it would work.
[00:10:49]  It's like, it obviously wouldn't.
[00:10:52]  And it's like, even the women, like maybe the women would gang up together and get weapons, like they would get a nuclear weapon and nuke the men or something.
[00:11:05]  Like, this just is so dumb.
[00:11:08]  I can't believe I'm even discussing it.
[00:11:12]  Doesn't take a lot of upper body strength to press a button to launch a missile at Andrew Wilson's Christian community.
[00:11:19]  In Oklahoma or wherever he's from.
[00:11:21]  Like, just give me a fucking break.
[00:11:24]  This is so dumb.
[00:11:27]  You're like going back to some primitive society and then reifying it and projecting it into the dark past and into the future forever.
[00:11:36]  It just does not work.
[00:11:39]  And again, the fact that like you want voting, like, that's the criterion that you keep going to, which is this incredibly.
[00:11:49]  Like modern post enlightenment conception of a republican democracy where all males vote or only property owners or something.

=== Modern Participation Strategy (03:04) ===

[00:12:00]  We're like well into the modern age, even talking like this.
[00:12:05]  And the idea that you would like reify that and project that back onto human nature and project that forward onto like society as we want to live in it is just absurd.
[00:12:17]  Modern society is complex and it's difficult.
[00:12:21]  People who are information handlers make more money and are more powerful than people who can chop lumber and build stuff with steel and weld.
[00:12:33]  And that just, he can't get his mind around that fact.
[00:12:36]  And on some level, to be totally sympathetic, I kind of get it.
[00:12:39]  I kind of get it.
[00:12:40]  Like, why is this Silicon Valley nerd a billionaire and the guy who can build a house scraping by?
[00:12:47]  I get where he's coming from.
[00:12:49]  I get it.
[00:12:49]  But you've got to try to wrap your mind around it.
[00:12:52]  You've got to also try to wrap your mind around.
[00:12:55]  The fact that feminism and diversity and so on isn't so much like pure liberalism or anti white hatred or whatever, so much as it is a management strategy of the modern state that exists within global capitalism.
[00:13:19]  And what I mean by this is that it's about buying in participation.
[00:13:26]  Much more than it is about like destroying white people, or like it's driven by some rage or Dionysian, you know, disintegrating chaotic instinct or so, you know, the death impulse.
[00:13:42]  I get those things, and those things actually are important to some degree, but it's a, in another way, it is a managerial strategy about getting buy in.
[00:13:53]  We have this economy, we have these women, we now have dishwashers and Uh, washing machines, they've got a lot of time on their hands, they're seeing the world on television.
[00:14:05]  Maybe we want to get them to kind of buy in so they can use a credit card and have a job, and there's a daycare to help them out, but they could be a home homemaker if they like, or be a homemaker for 18 years and then get a job.
[00:14:17]  You know, it's like a way of saying, We want you to buy into this so it works.
[00:14:22]  Same thing with blacks, it's like we're gonna give you a little bit of a leg up, you have the same rights as whites now, so that you aren't.
[00:14:30]  Like an oppressed class that is about to revolt.
[00:14:34]  Now, I think there's more to it than this, but that is what it is.
[00:14:39]  Like, it's a sort of nationalism, you could even say, in the sense that it's about bringing in participation of all people.
[00:14:48]  And this idea of like, I just do think that Andrew Wilson has a fantasy of like men getting together and saying, Yo, bitch, you ain't voting no more.
[00:15:01]  And like, you don't have a say in the matter.

=== Resentment and Privilege (13:34) ===

[00:15:04]  And it's like, You understand that that just doesn't fucking work.
[00:15:09]  It doesn't even work in like the ancient world where they had complex societies.
[00:15:14]  It doesn't work 3,000 years ago, buddy.
[00:15:18]  It maybe worked like in some like homestead on the frontier.
[00:15:25]  Maybe, but like it's just, I don't know.
[00:15:28]  This is just so dumb.
[00:15:29]  They're intent on destroying the foundation of their own lives.
[00:15:34]  Andrew Wilson's, he's powerful.
[00:15:37]  In this current internet world, because he appeals to chuds, if we're just being brutally frank about it, the chuds with an iPhone.
[00:15:49]  And the chud is a set of chuds.
[00:15:53]  You're not going to be powerful in this world that you imagine, Andrew.
[00:15:59]  So we can live like an Amish.
[00:16:01]  Get away from the patriarchy to be strong, independent women is nonsense.
[00:16:05]  They're just always appealing to the benevolence of men.
[00:16:08]  Always.
[00:16:09]  And so I don't even understand what the purpose is of the vote for women.
[00:16:13]  What is it?
[00:16:14]  We can literally via force take it whenever we want anyway.
[00:16:19]  What is the point here?
[00:16:20]  Well, I would imagine the point is to include the voice of half the population, which is naturally set on different priorities to those of men.
[00:16:27]  And since we live in a society which is half female, it would be worthwhile to include that perspective in how we make decisions.
[00:16:34]  Why does voting not affect them as much as it affects us?
[00:16:38]  Let me ask you a question.
[00:16:40]  Are you aware that in the United States, we abolish alcohol?
[00:16:44]  For a period of time, I've seen some movies about how that went.
[00:16:47]  Who got that amendment passed?
[00:16:49]  I don't know.
[00:16:49]  Women.
[00:16:50]  Okay.
[00:16:51]  Oh, no, no, no.
[00:16:52]  If you want to have an argument about our disagreements with how women choose to vote, no, no, no, no.
[00:16:57]  They couldn't vote.
[00:16:59]  Oh, I see.
[00:17:00]  That's what you're saying.
[00:17:01]  Okay.
[00:17:01]  They couldn't vote, but they still got that amendment passed.
[00:17:04]  Okay.
[00:17:05]  The idea that women did not have influence or do not have influence or don't have moral influence on society because they can't vote is stupid.
[00:17:13]  So what's wrong with formalizing that in the form of a vote?
[00:17:16]  Why is he obsessed with voting then?
[00:17:18]  This is such a weird argument.
[00:17:21]  I mean, I basically agree that there was a certain type of right wing woman that passed prohibition before they could vote.
[00:17:31]  I mean, it is interesting.
[00:17:33]  But what is his point then?
[00:17:36]  Because he's just diminishing voting.
[00:17:38]  So if voting doesn't have that much power, then why is he bothering keeping it away from women?
[00:17:42]  Is it literally just so Republicans can win?
[00:17:47]  I don't know.
[00:17:49]  I just told you the very idea that women, let's start with this.
[00:17:55]  Do you want women to be able to get drafted in the military?
[00:18:01]  I personally don't, no.
[00:18:03]  Why?
[00:18:04]  Why?
[00:18:06]  Because I've never really thought about it, but it's just an instinctive reaction, actually.
[00:18:12]  I'd have to think about the exact reason, but I just don't think combat is what men do, I guess.
[00:18:17]  It's a very simplistic way of saying it.
[00:18:18]  There'll be women who blow up and kick your ass, and there are women like that.
[00:18:23]  Agreed?
[00:18:23]  But not general.
[00:18:25]  I am not against women serving in the military if that's what they choose.
[00:18:29]  But I don't think they should be compelled to.
[00:18:32]  I think in some circumstances, yes.
[00:18:34]  Like when the survival of the country is at stake.
[00:18:36]  So women get a privilege men don't get.
[00:18:38]  Sure.
[00:18:40]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:41]  So why do they have equal rights?
[00:18:42]  No.
[00:18:43]  What privileges?
[00:18:44]  Name a single privilege men get that women don't have access to.
[00:18:47]  What?
[00:18:47]  You mean legislative?
[00:18:49]  Anything.
[00:18:49]  Like literally anything.
[00:18:50]  In life.
[00:18:52]  Any aspect, whether it be governmental or social, women have all the privilege.
[00:18:56]  All the privilege.
[00:18:57]  Oh, yeah.
[00:18:57]  Hey, when the Titanic goes down, who gets on the lifeboat?
[00:19:00]  Yeah, yeah, but that's a very narrow context.
[00:19:02]  Who dies in childbirth?
[00:19:04]  Like, I mean, come on.
[00:19:05]  We're different.
[00:19:06]  Almost no women die in childbirth anymore.
[00:19:09]  Some still do.
[00:19:10]  Sure.
[00:19:10]  But I mean, some people die in childbirth.
[00:19:13]  There's probably more women that die in childbirth in America than people who die on the Titanic in the modern world.
[00:19:17]  Yeah, is childbirth avoidable?
[00:19:20]  You just don't have sex, right?
[00:19:23]  No, but what I'm saying is there are outcomes that.
[00:19:26]  Are better for men in life and for women.
[00:19:28]  And that's a fundamental difference between men and women.
[00:19:32]  Yeah, I understand, but I'm talking about privilege.
[00:19:34]  What are any can you give me any privilege at all that men have that women don't?
[00:19:42]  Whereas I can give you tons of privileges that women have that men don't.
[00:19:45]  That's what I'm asking.
[00:19:47]  Privilege.
[00:19:48]  I mean, the privilege concept outside the legislative framework is a difficult one, even inside of it.
[00:19:53]  I'm asking for both, either any, in fact.
[00:19:58]  What is he talking about?
[00:20:00]  I don't.
[00:20:01]  Is he just talking about like the civil rights?
[00:20:07]  Infrastructure, or I don't know what he's doing.
[00:20:11]  I have the data on all this stuff, but I would assume there are contexts in which women have had privileges throughout world history.
[00:20:22]  The ladies first is not some like new concept or something, but he now wants to take away their privileges.
[00:20:31]  It's very funny, and I don't know a tremendous amount about Phyllis Schlafly.
[00:20:37]  I have read some histories of the religious right and so on, but at least as she was depicted in Mrs. America, which is a really fun streaming show, actually, she was actually defending privileges.
[00:20:51]  What she was saying is that we don't want the ERA because it would take away our privileges.
[00:20:58]  And she made a lot of specious arguments, like we could be drafted in the military, even though that wasn't actually up for debate and so on.
[00:21:05]  But what she was saying is that, and she was saying something that's based in many ways it's, look, Yeah, you, there might be pay inequality, and yeah, business, that's a man's world.
[00:21:20]  And you can't become a Catholic priest if you want to.
[00:21:25]  You can't become an army general if you wanted to.
[00:21:28]  But don't forget about all the privileges.
[00:21:30]  Keep in mind that men are actually even legally obligated to support you.
[00:21:37]  And you get to be at home and hang out with the girls and raise children.
[00:21:43]  Have your own sort of communities.
[00:21:45]  Like, do you understand that you're giving up those privileges if you accept equality?
[00:21:50]  Now, you can have technical disagreements with what she was saying.
[00:21:56]  And the ERA, I don't think was even that fundamentally impactful towards society.
[00:22:01]  But she was at least making a solid point, which is that there are privileges and you don't want to give them up.
[00:22:08]  Women have had privileges throughout world history.
[00:22:13]  It's almost like someone like Andrew Wilson is at this point.
[00:22:16]  Where they're mad at women, where it's like they want equality in this way that they want to get rid of privileges.
[00:22:27]  Like, why should you go in the door before I am?
[00:22:31]  Why should you be thought of as special?
[00:22:33]  It's just like pure resentment on some level, as opposed to romantic, chivalrous behavior, which is a non toxic masculinity.
[00:22:48]  I find like this is actually toxic masculinity because it's like resenting women for privileges.
[00:22:57]  Do you want to live in a society where these don't operate?
[00:23:02]  It reminds me again of Helen Riddlemeyer when RFH was on and we went through Helen Riddlemeyer's interview, I think, with the Times and so on.
[00:23:12]  And she was also doing this paradoxical talking out of both sides of her mouth, where on the one hand, We're giving women all these legs up.
[00:23:22]  And on the other hand, women, they just study art history.
[00:23:25]  They want to be kindergarten teachers.
[00:23:28]  Well, okay.
[00:23:30]  I mean, which one?
[00:23:31]  What is it?
[00:23:32]  Are you resentful of that they're too wildly successful in astrophysics?
[00:23:38]  Or is your point that women have a different psychology and are far more likely to want to be a kindergarten instructor than an airline pilot?
[00:23:50]  Which one is it?
[00:23:51]  It's like you resent both.
[00:23:54]  Well, at least Helen Riddlemeyer is making the case from like, it is better for women.
[00:24:00]  You know, like Andrew Wilson is doing a pure resentment.
[00:24:03]  Yes.
[00:24:04]  Like critique.
[00:24:05]  And like on some level, it's like he's resentful of women because he's never really been good with them.
[00:24:11]  And like, you know, his wife has a bunch of kids with other men.
[00:24:15]  And he has like this like resentment towards women because he was not at like the pinnacle of the pecking order.
[00:24:22]  Like he imagines he should be in his mind.
[00:24:25]  But he is the geek.
[00:24:27]  Like he is the fucking the nerd.
[00:24:29]  And like this force doctrine, like you would have your home taken from you and you would have no voting rights anyway.
[00:24:36]  Because you and your wife would be homeless on the street, you would be a sharecropper.
[00:24:42]  Yeah, that's what his ancestors were.
[00:24:45]  Your wife would have been shunned for having all these children out of wedlock.
[00:24:53]  I don't know what to say, Jordan.
[00:24:56]  Yeah, I don't know who that was, um, who was just talking, who said that, but that's what I was going to say is that I don't think you can analyze kind of what Andrew Wilson is saying without kind of seeing it through the lens that his wife has.
[00:25:09]  Three kids or something, different baby daddies and stuff.
[00:25:13]  And it almost like six.
[00:25:15]  Okay.
[00:25:15]  Yeah.
[00:25:15]  It's even more extreme than I thought.
[00:25:17]  But it's that he's trying to punish his wife because he feels like if he were not, if he had had the rules, if the rules were set the way he's talking about now, his wife would have never done these things with other men.
[00:25:29]  And I could have locked her down before she made these mistakes.
[00:25:33]  It feels like he's just punishing women, like punishing his wife vis a vis like women as a whole because he's not the strongest guy.
[00:25:41]  He has that famous clip on the whatever podcast where he couldn't open a pickle jar.
[00:25:45]  Like, that's a real thing that happened.
[00:25:47]  So, he's not like coming at it from like Chad wanting to enforce the rules.
[00:25:52]  He's coming at it from like Revenge of the Nerds.
[00:25:54]  Like, my whore wife wouldn't be in this boat if I had these rules.
[00:25:58]  You know what I mean?
[00:25:59]  Yeah.
[00:25:59]  And I think that's true of Rachel too.
[00:26:02]  I think she feels that she wouldn't have been able to make all these terrible decisions.
[00:26:10]  Yeah.
[00:26:11]  That wouldn't have happened.
[00:26:14]  If the patriarchy just kept her in line more, but it's like, I don't know.
[00:26:21]  There were children always born out of wedlock, Rachel, and you probably would have been a single mom in all of them.
[00:26:27]  And in fact, this was your best bet because single motherhood didn't destroy you, it didn't ruin you.
[00:26:34]  And you did eventually get to have, like, I guess they've been married a while now.
[00:26:39]  So I guess it kind of worked out for her in the end, even if she's married to Andrew.
[00:26:45]  This was really her.
[00:26:47]  I don't know.
[00:26:47]  I think feminism really saved her, actually, and patriarchy would not have prevented her from the choices she made.
[00:26:56]  Yeah, like that we, when RFH and I walked, excuse me, watched Mrs. America, which again, I would really recommend.
[00:27:04]  It's a fun show.
[00:27:06]  But it's like, it's an obvious irony, but it's also real, which is that Phyllis Schlafly was a feminist.
[00:27:17]  If that word means anything, yes, she went and got a law degree at Harvard at like age 45 or something.
[00:27:24]  I mean, she was just a go getter, she had a voice in the arena.
[00:27:29]  Yeah, she ran for, she I guess failed to win, but ran for office to be a Republican representative.
[00:27:37]  If the word feminist means anything, it must apply to Phyllis Schlafly.
[00:27:42]  And so what you have is when a certain type of liberalism becomes hegemonic, there's almost this like market niche for Phyllis Schlafly, who, by the way, was a lot more intelligent and Interesting than Andrew Wilson.
[00:28:01]  Like, you know, I mean, I'm not a Phyllis Schlafly Stan here or something, but she actually is a sort of fascinating character.
[00:28:09]  Whereas I feel like Andrew Wilson is just like a bridge troll who's just angry and not interesting and productive.
[00:28:19]  But they both exist within a like market niche that is created by the thing that they're attacking.
[00:28:27]  Like, for every Gloria Steinem, there's going to be a Phyllis Schlafly.
[00:28:32]  And Andrew has sort of filled that market niche of men, which I have sympathy for.

=== Divorced Dad Market Niche (02:31) ===

[00:28:39]  I get it.
[00:28:39]  It's like it would be simpler if your wife wasn't able to divorce you and you'd still be with her and she'd just kind of shut up and you'd earn wages for both of you and you wouldn't have to pay child support or something.
[00:28:55]  I get it.
[00:28:56]  Resentment is real and understandable and sympathetic on some level, but that's what he's doing.
[00:29:02]  It's just this like, There's no actual solution to this problem.
[00:29:08]  It's just a sort of expression of resentment.
[00:29:11]  Like, I can bench press more than my ex wife.
[00:29:15]  Why did she take my car?
[00:29:20]  Which is fair.
[00:29:23]  I don't know.
[00:29:23]  I just, I do think it just is nothing more than that, really.
[00:29:30]  We should watch that music video from the Richmond, North of Richmond guy.
[00:29:37]  What is it called?
[00:29:37]  Like, divorced dad, one divorced, yeah, a scornful woman, scornful woman, yeah.
[00:30:06]  The divorced dad rock.
[00:30:09]  That was really.
[00:30:09]  Yeah, it is an anthem of the divorced dad.
[00:30:12]  Yeah, it is.
[00:30:13]  Why is Andrew going around the world talking like this?
[00:30:20]  This is just so uninteresting.
[00:30:22]  I mean, I think it appeals to a certain market segment in the way that porn does.
[00:30:28]  It's like just an immediate wish fulfillment type thing.
[00:30:33]  But, like, why are we.
[00:30:35]  Granted, maybe I'm part of the problem being that we're dissecting it here, but like.
[00:30:39]  And I do think what we're saying is useful, but like, why are people talking to him about Christian nationalism?
[00:30:48]  What he's saying, by the way, is like radically anti Jesus.
[00:30:57]  Do you think Jesus would be sympathetic towards the force doctrine?
[00:31:03]  I don't even know what to say anymore.
[00:31:05]  Like, it's just like, what are we talking about here?

=== Healthcare and Male Privilege (09:31) ===

[00:31:10]  Men are more likely to be employed for a certain thing because they're more likely to be perceived as authoritative, as leaders, things like that.
[00:31:17]  Although that has changed with the kind of woke agenda of the last 10 years.
[00:31:20]  And it works both ways.
[00:31:21]  Like, for instance, preschool teachers.
[00:31:24]  Yeah.
[00:31:24]  I would assume that people would vastly prefer that their kid go to a woman, right?
[00:31:28]  Right.
[00:31:29]  So it seems like that privilege is striped across the board.
[00:31:31]  So, like, what is the.
[00:31:34]  Why is it that women get all the.
[00:31:36]  Football coaches.
[00:31:37]  I like.
[00:31:38]  Yeah.
[00:31:39]  It's called like we're fucking different.
[00:31:41]  Everyone knows this.
[00:31:42]  We don't talk about it because it's just sort of.
[00:31:44]  Assumed, and it becomes kind of crude to talk about it.
[00:31:49]  You know, if your son goes to football like in the ninth grade or something, and the coach is a woman, you're like, you know, I mean, like, we don't have to talk about these things.
[00:32:01]  Everyone just gets it.
[00:32:03]  It's not a privilege.
[00:32:04]  It goes both ways.
[00:32:07]  Just give me a break.
[00:32:09]  Right.
[00:32:10]  But also get all the privilege.
[00:32:12]  That doesn't seem right to me.
[00:32:13]  That seems like it's backwards.
[00:32:14]  It's just absurd.
[00:32:15]  So, like, what?
[00:32:16]  I'm still waiting to hear from anybody ever.
[00:32:21]  Do you know, like, the percentage of government spending that is dedicated to keeping men alive over the age of 75?
[00:32:33]  It's like 80% of Medicare billing goes towards end of life care, and half of that is going towards men.
[00:32:45]  We are like old white guys, boomers, and silent gen are so privileged.
[00:32:51]  That, like, your tax dollar, like, you know, there's the joke of, like, oh, I should just send my tax payment just directly to Jerusalem or whatever.
[00:33:00]  Jerusalem gets like a pittance.
[00:33:03]  You should just send it to white dudes, boomers, boomers who, like, our hospital systems are like, we must keep him alive.
[00:33:14]  Never die.
[00:33:15]  Never die.
[00:33:16]  We love you.
[00:33:17]  Never leave us.
[00:33:18]  That is what, like, when the rubber hits the road, that is where revenue is directed, by the way.
[00:33:27]  And a lot of that foreign policy stuff, like it's all going to Israel or whatever.
[00:33:31]  That's a funny joke, but it's just totally untrue.
[00:33:34]  It's also going to like pay a soldier stationed in Germany or the Middle East who sits on his ass all day while a nerd flies drones.
[00:33:46]  It's going to Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.
[00:33:49]  That's where it's mostly going.
[00:33:50]  I mean, that's my fundamental point.
[00:33:52]  Yeah.
[00:33:52]  So, like, yeah, you fucking do have privileges, Andrew.
[00:33:56]  And in 30 years, I don't know how old he is.
[00:33:59]  Like the, like your kids are going to be paying their sales tax on like bubble gum that they purchase at a gas station is going directly to keeping you alive.
[00:34:13]  In fact, what kind of privilege is that?
[00:34:16]  That's like the privilege of an emperor.
[00:34:20]  Yeah.
[00:34:20]  Fucking break.
[00:34:22]  This is why I think it's actually important to kind of go through these Lulbert phases because you just kind of know this stuff.
[00:34:29]  Oh, libertarian basis.
[00:34:31]  Yes, I think it's important.
[00:34:32]  It does give you like this base knowledge of things.
[00:34:34]  It's like, well, no, I know from like my days going to ISLC, like the big things we spend money are not, in fact, Israel.
[00:34:43]  It's like old people and healthcare.
[00:34:47]  End of life healthcare.
[00:34:49]  It's like the worst imaginable healthcare.
[00:34:52]  I mean, this was like Deep Left was talking about this the other day.
[00:34:54]  Like, if you're 20 years old and you get in a car accident, like, it's totally reasonable to say, we want to invest in this 20 year old, we're going to save him.
[00:35:03]  Because he's going to have kids.
[00:35:05]  He's going to have a job.
[00:35:06]  He's going to pay taxes.
[00:35:07]  He'll serve in the military.
[00:35:08]  It's a total investment.
[00:35:10]  And a 90 year old, let's spend half a million dollars extending her life by a month.
[00:35:18]  Give me a fucking break.
[00:35:19]  That is, I don't want to be cruel, but that is just absurd.
[00:35:27]  No, it is crazy how much money is spent just keeping people alive for, I don't know, one more year, six more months.
[00:35:34]  No free healthcare.
[00:35:35]  You got to work.
[00:35:36]  Okay.
[00:35:37]  No free healthcare for 20 year olds, but like free healthcare for 90 year olds.
[00:35:41]  It's just inherently wrong.
[00:35:44]  And that is privilege.
[00:35:45]  That is privilege that Andrew, you will enjoy.
[00:35:48]  That is privilege that is going to you.
[00:35:50]  The elites don't hate you, apparently.
[00:35:53]  They hate you.
[00:35:54]  I want to be hated by these elites who are like desperate to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, like keeping me alive and in comfort.
[00:36:05]  I'm not sure.
[00:36:06]  I don't know.
[00:36:07]  It's just this type of.
[00:36:10]  Privileges men have over women versus what women have over men.
[00:36:14]  So if you can go and you can be drafted, you can be sent off to war, and women can't, but they can vote to send you off to war.
[00:36:21]  How is that not something which fundamentally needs?
[00:36:23]  Yeah, I just, okay, I'm going to just get totally nasty.
[00:36:26]  I'm going to get totally.
[00:36:28]  Andrew, you're a fucking.
[00:36:30]  You are a for even uttering that statement.
[00:36:34]  Do you know what the good thing about war is?
[00:36:36]  Do you know what the good thing about war is?
[00:36:37]  It's not that women vote you into war, it's that you get to just go.
[00:36:42]  Kick ass.
[00:36:45]  It is fucking awesome.
[00:36:49]  War is good.
[00:36:50]  It is bad ass.
[00:36:53]  It is the fucking greatest thing ever.
[00:36:55]  They put a rifle in your hands and say, Go for it, dude.
[00:37:02]  Go for it.
[00:37:03]  That's what, what's the worth of, what's worth living if you can't feel alive?
[00:37:08]  What is more being alive than like death is in the air?
[00:37:13]  You go mono a mono against another man.
[00:37:16]  And you win, and then you go and like take his land.
[00:37:20]  That's the most fucking insanely trad, badass thing you could ever imagine.
[00:37:28]  That's what war is about.
[00:37:30]  It's not women sending us to do it, it's that we do it because it's fucking cool.
[00:37:41]  I'm sorry.
[00:37:42]  This notion that like men, like, oh, they'll just send us off to war.
[00:37:48]  Like, you're a fucking in the 90s sense of the word.
[00:37:51]  You're not necessarily gay.
[00:37:53]  That is so, that is such just like a lame opinion.
[00:38:01]  Please don't pick me for the football team.
[00:38:03]  Please don't.
[00:38:04]  I could get hurt.
[00:38:06]  No, it's the opposite, you fucking woman.
[00:38:10]  You pussy.
[00:38:11]  You want to get picked for the team.
[00:38:14]  And if you break your arm playing football, that's also fucking cool.
[00:38:19]  What do you not get?
[00:38:21]  You fucking.
[00:38:26]  I'm sorry.
[00:38:27]  He is a woman.
[00:38:28]  He's a fucking pussy.
[00:38:29]  The fact that he just uttered that phrase.
[00:38:32]  Women can vote us to war.
[00:38:36]  Oh, no.
[00:38:38]  These bloodthirsty women are going to send like sniveling, crying Andrew Wilson to the trench while he just wants to be left alone on his like homestead to like milk his cow.
[00:38:51]  Women are just a bunch of fascists.
[00:38:55]  This is just such, this is like literally the gayest.
[00:39:00]  Thing ever uttered.
[00:39:03]  I'm not even exaggerating.
[00:39:05]  That is so gay to think like that.
[00:39:10]  Well, God.
[00:39:10]  He wants to talk about all these gender differences, but he seems to think that, yeah, like the bloodthirsty women want to send us to war.
[00:39:17]  And it's like, who do you think votes for war more, actually?
[00:39:21]  It's men.
[00:39:22]  Men are much more likely to want to do that.
[00:39:24]  I think women are the more risk averse, less like physically violent gender.
[00:39:28]  They're not going to support that as much.
[00:39:30]  They vote for it less, Andrew.
[00:39:32]  Actually, women voting.
[00:39:34]  Would decrease your likelihood of being sent off to war because there's someone to counter the male vote who's going to be more likely to vote for it.
[00:39:44]  Yes.
[00:39:45]  War is just the ultimate expression of testosterone.
[00:39:49]  Obviously, I'm being a little facetious and whimsical, like doing this war is good stuff, but like, yeah, that it is.
[00:40:00]  And you have to get that.
[00:40:03]  When a man gets a scar on his face, he's like, oh, cool.
[00:40:08]  When a woman gets a scar on her face, she's like, oh no, I'm less pretty.
[00:40:14]  But like Andrew Wilson, if he gets like a scar on his face, he's like, oh no, I'm less pretty.
[00:40:20]  You know, stop being a fucking pussy, dude.
[00:40:25]  Man up.
[00:40:27]  I mean, seriously, I want to like apply the force doctrine to this guy.
[00:40:33]  He looks kind of flabby.
[00:40:34]  I'm just saying, like looking at those arms and.
[00:40:38]  Like, he's got really skinny arms, but then a big belly.

=== Stop Being a Pussy (01:22) ===

[00:40:42]  Yeah.
[00:40:42]  Not good.
[00:40:44]  Yeah.
[00:40:45]  And well, this is the bit that Nick does on Bronze Age mindset, where all of a sudden it goes out the window and Gaza comes parachuting in.
[00:40:55]  Because, and it seems like they're risking their lives, you know?
[00:40:59]  Yeah.
[00:40:59]  Like death, literally flying stunts and things like that.
[00:41:02]  And they're like, no.
[00:41:04]  Yeah.
[00:41:05]  And then the whole Talmudic network, you know, freaks out because it's.
[00:41:09]  It's only you see the aggression is only allowed in one way, right?
[00:41:13]  Like Russia's crusade against the global homo empire, yeah, that's based, it's based in Ukraine.
[00:41:20]  But then Ukrainians dying in their homeland, they're like, Why are you dying?
[00:41:24]  Just stop, give up.
[00:41:27]  Yep, exactly.
[00:41:29]  Bronze Age mindset, this and like war brides that, and then some Hamas al Quds force comes flying over the mountaintop on like a hang glider.
[00:41:41]  It's like, Not like that.
[00:41:43]  Like, take some like rave thought, like back to Gaza.
[00:41:49]  What about my human rights?
[00:41:54]  Literally dragged into the cave of the Gaza, you know, concrete mess.
[00:42:02]  Like, the UN should investigate.