RadixJournal - Richard Spencer - Love and Marriage
Aired: 2026-02-25
Duration: 04:55


=== Sex In The City Era (04:08) ===

[00:00:00]  That the solution to every broken sexual norm was to break more of them.
[00:00:04]  That's always been my MO.
[00:00:06]  A lot of women listened and a lot of women got hurt.
[00:00:11]  They ended up more medicated and more lonely than any generation before them, having less sex than almost anyone before them, too.
[00:00:18]  These things are also, these things are true to an extent.
[00:00:24]  I agree that there is a sex in the city era that occurred, and you could find lifestyle columnists that were these single sluts who would talk about their various conquests or being conquested.
[00:00:41]  Don't you think this is a little bit of a straw man?
[00:00:44]  I mean, liberal, wealthy liberal women have more success in marriage than middle class or in especially working class women.
[00:00:56]  Yes, marriage is collapsing amongst like the lower, the bottom 50.
[00:01:01]  It's not collapsing amongst upper middle class liberal white women.
[00:01:04]  It's become item, which is in a way very sad.
[00:01:09]  But I'm not, at the very least, you could say is that even if some people were telling women this, educated upper class women weren't listening.
[00:01:18]  No.
[00:01:19]  It reminds me of this.
[00:01:21]  I remember there's this book.
[00:01:23]  It wasn't called, it might have even been called Hooking Up.
[00:01:26]  I know that's a book by Tom Wolf, but I never read it.
[00:01:30]  I just read some reviews and heard some people interviewed about it.
[00:01:33]  And I agreed with the thesis basically, which was that the sexual revolution has hit college campus.
[00:01:42]  But the problem is, is that a lot of well-to-do women are smart enough to manage it.
[00:01:51]  And so, yeah, they might go and give a frat guy a blowjob and they might sleep around a little bit, but they're ultimately going to be fine.
[00:02:06]  And they're going to have this, these moments of degeneracy or whatever, but they're ultimately much more likely to have a successful marriage and children, et cetera.
[00:02:19]  And it's sort of like the lower class women are the ones that really need social morality.
[00:02:26]  You know, like they benefit from it more because they're the ones that like hook up with a guy at a truck stop and get beaten up.
[00:02:35]  Or they're the ones who have a one-night stand and then end up raising that man's children who they never hear from again.
[00:02:44]  And it's like, that's the argument, which I agree with, which is that upper class women are basically fine, but for the sake of the working class, you should maybe promote morality.
[00:02:57]  Also, from the point of view of, I guess, yeah, they're promoting, they're saying, you know, marital sex is the way to go rather than premarital sex.
[00:03:05]  The picture of premarital sex that's being drawn here is of this like wild bacchanea from coast to coast.
[00:03:11]  And obviously that's not really the situation for the most part.
[00:03:14]  Most of the premarital sex is happening is in the context of relationships.
[00:03:18]  So on the level as well, it's a strong man.
[00:03:21]  Yes.
[00:03:22]  That often lead to a marriage as well.
[00:03:25]  Yes.
[00:03:26]  And is it all a bacchanal or are we not having sex at all?
[00:03:30]  Because as I've also stressed at other points, like the fact that Gen Z aren't having sex at all, I think is a really big problem, sort of on a different level.
[00:03:42]  But another aspect of this, there's this book that I, when I was working in the American Conservative many years ago in 2007, that I remember editing this review of the book, and I also agreed with the thesis.
[00:03:56]  And I also am not going to bother actually reading the boring social science book, but I agreed with the thesis.
[00:04:03]  And it was basically about working class women in Philadelphia.

=== Working Class Women's Lives (00:46) ===

[00:04:08]  And this woman, the sociologist, did a lot of different interviews.
[00:04:13]  And she found out this kind of dysfunctional thing going on with them where they were okay as a single mother.
[00:04:24]  And in fact, being a single mother was a way of organizing their life.
[00:04:28]  You know, they would take their, I got to take my kid to daycare.
[00:04:31]  Oh, I got to get him to school by 8.30.
[00:04:33]  And then like, I do my job.
[00:04:35]  And then like, oh, I got to get out of there quick to pick him up and take him, you know, in a way, they're busy, but it also kind of helps you organize your life in a way.
[00:04:44]  You don't have time to like do drugs or run around because your child manages things for you by necessity, if you understand what I'm saying.
[00:04:53]  And there's a lot of truth to this.