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Jan. 15, 2025 - RadixJournal - Richard Spencer
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What to make of the Gaza ceasefire?

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Everyone, I hope you're well.
I was just going to talk briefly about the ceasefire agreement that just came down.
Both Trump and Biden are taking credit for it, and in a way, they're both justified.
Obviously, Trump is not in office yet, even though it almost feels like he is, and some people might think he is, in fact.
It is the Biden administration diplomats who are securing this deal, although I think Trump probably should get credit for it.
His contradictory, ambiguous shit-talking no doubt had something to do with this.
there's going to be hell to pay if the hostages aren't released by the time I get in office.
I think stuff like that is, you know, seemingly meaningless
I do want to talk about this on a big picture level.
I'm certainly not an expert in these matters, A. But B, I think oftentimes you can get lost in the weeds or lost in the trees and not really see the forest and kind of...
Get into these tedious disputes about details.
Nothing has really fundamentally changed.
Now, I think some things have changed.
First off, there have been people who have been held hostage.
Many of them are no longer alive, no doubt.
They're going to be returned.
That's great.
Israeli military is pulling out of Gaza and some trucks are going to get in and so on.
You can correct me on some of these details if you want.
All good stuff.
Fewer people are going to die in the coming months than in the previous months.
Great. Who could really be against that?
I also think that Trump wants to present himself as a peacemaker.
And this has been an important...
I don't know what it means to him personally, to be honest, because Trump is such an enigma.
But it's definitely been an important meme among Trump supporters.
Under the Trump administration, 2017-20, no new wars were started.
Now, that's a bit of a deceptive way of talking, but sort of true.
I mean, no wars were ended.
Yet a war under the Biden administration was ended and Trump dropped the mother of all bombs and got us very close to a major war with Iran, blah, blah, blah.
But let's not talk about that.
It's a meme for him and it's a meme for a lot of his supporters and the Trump intelligentsia such as it is.
And so he can present himself as a peacemaker.
He wants to present himself as a peacemaker in Ukraine as well.
Ukraine is going to have to give up some territory.
We might sort of freeze the conflict, but we're going to end the actual fighting and dying, which is so horrible, and so on.
So all of that is fair, and it's also fair for Trump fans to take a victory lap.
Sure. The problem is, I think Trump is going to have some...
Real difficulties with his friends and not necessarily with his enemies.
So let me explain what I mean by that, and I'll go to Ukraine first.
Now, of course, officially, Ukraine is our friend.
Zelensky is our friend and Putin is our enemy.
But the dynamic of the situation for the last few years has been very different than that.
Putin is the friend of the MAGA movement.
Putin panders to the MAGA movement.
Putin has clear involvement with MAGA influencers, speculatively with Tucker Carlson, etc., and quite literally with the erstwhile tenant media.
Trump wants to get along with Putin.
This is something that he's consistently said for a long time.
The problem is, let's say that Trump goes to Putin or makes a Nixon to China trip to Russia.
And he says, all right, why don't you just, we're going to freeze the conflict.
You're going to take these territories.
You're welcome.
Zelensky, shut up with the war talk.
We're ending this thing.
Might Zelensky accept that deal?
Perhaps. Perhaps.
I mean, he effectively accepted the seizure of Crimea for some time.
Now, he never officially did, and he probably didn't accept it in his heart of hearts.
But there was this kind of slow simmering conflict around these areas.
But in effect, Russia controlled Crimea, etc.
So is Zelensky and Ukraine reeling?
They have such a smaller population size.
Can they not afford to engage in this for 10 years?
There are going to be no Ukrainians left.
He'll accept some L to get the bigger W, which is Western involvement in West Ukraine, or whatever it's called, and an end to the dying.
Maybe. Fair enough.
He might want to accept that.
And the Ukrainian people might want to accept that.
Will Putin accept that?
Putin is not in full control of territories that he has already officially annexed, brought into the Russian sphere.
So it would be a little bit of an L for Putin.
Is Putin, psychologically speaking, a man who is going to engage in the sunk cost fallacy?
He has invested so much in this that he will not accept it.
I think that...
Is a good psychological reading of Vladimir Putin.
Might Putin really dislike the idea of a Ukraine with intense Western involvement directly on the border of the Russian sphere?
So there's no real buffer zone.
Now, there could be a promise that Ukraine won't join NATO for 10 years, but Putin would likely view that.
Accurately, I would say.
As I'm going to put this off for 10 years, they're going to slowly rearm, and then we're going to have this conflict again 10 years later when I or my successor is in office.
I don't think he likes this idea.
I don't think this is how he thinks.
I think it's very likely that Putin would just reject Trump's peace proposal.
If these are more or less the terms that it would have to adhere to.
Similar thing in Israel, where, you know, Trump is going to have to deal with his...
He's going to have problems dealing with his friend, that is Netanyahu, as opposed to his enemies.
Okay, so some 40,000 to 50,000 deaths have occurred in Gaza and...
In some ways, that underestimates the human toll that has taken place over the past two years.
It's just been a complete disaster, or I should say a year and a half.
But Hamas has, from what I have read, recouped its losses.
This is something that Elon Musk said.
Insightfully at one point that, sure, you can go and kill a bunch of terrorists, but you have to look at the cost benefits of killing a bunch of terrorists.
If for every terrorist you murder, two more people get radicalized as terrorists or future terrorists, then it's actually not worth it.
You have to...
At some point in life, you have to look at a cost-benefit analysis.
And if you're just simply creating a more radicalized population, then this is actually not a good thing at all.
That's an insightful comment.
Certainly, he's not the first one to make it, but insightful nonetheless.
He seems to have forgotten this over the past year or so.
But anyway, Hamas has reportedly recouped its losses.
It has enough recruits to fill out the roles of the dead terrorist.
And so exactly what Elon Musk suggested might happen is happening.
So they can use this time, a ceasefire, to redo the tunnels, regroup, come up with a new strategy.
Not purchase pagers or things like that.
They can use this time to regroup when the Israeli armies are withdrawing to some degree and not engaging in a direct violent assault against them.
So what is Bibi Netanyahu going to think about this?
Is he going to like this?
Is he going to like the possibility that we have a ceasefire?
Hamas has been, at least the Hamas of 2023 has just been devastated.
Thousands of deaths, destruction of hospitals that were hiding terror caves or whatever the hell they were saying.
But you end up in the same place.
You end up at the same place in 2005 when George W. Bush, in his Democratic fervor, basically said, we need elections in occupied Gaza Strip.
And lo and behold, what happened to those elections?
Hamas won.
The terrorists won.
That was almost the end of the Democratic dream.
In many ways.
They elected the terrorists.
They elected the anti-democratic forces.
You might as well have a situation where you have a democracy and they elect a king and there's a referendum to end democracy.
It's this weird contradiction of popular will that was expressed in 2005 and certainly is the background cause of where we are now.
Does Bibi Netanyahu really want this?
Now, is he willing to reinvade?
That would be something.
What else is sort of on offer here as well?
There is reporting that, it's not Sheldon, Miriam Adelson's, Sheldon Adelson's widow, who gave Trump $100 million or something like this.
The deal in that was, we are going to help you win.
You're not going to jail Donald Trump.
You were down low, but we're going to lift you up, resurrect you, and what we get in return is going to be the annexation of the West Bank, perhaps the annexation of Gaza as well.
Now, what do you even do with Gaza?
Gaza is effectively rubble.
I don't know the degree to which infrastructure exists in Gaza.
I'm sure it does to some degree.
It's a disaster zone.
If that is the case, then we are going to be in another shitshow where the international community is going to be against the Trump administration.
Netanyahu will, of course, like this, but we're just sort of back where we were, not immediately after October 7th of 2023, but certainly throughout 2024, where...
Bibi is sort of a pariah leader.
America is begrudgingly supporting him, etc.
So we could be in there.
If that happens, there's no doubt that the Gazans are going to go balls to the wall, everything or nothing.
We support just outright attacks against Israel if they see...
Quite accurately, Israel as an expansion, annexing state.
So I guess my point is, sure, it's great.
It's a W, take a victory lap.
If you're a Trump fan, you could even arguably do that if you're a Biden fan.
But nothing's fundamentally changed.
Donald Trump is going to have a lot of problems dealing with his friends, in this case, Bibi Netanyahu and Vladimir Putin.
So anyway, just some thoughts on the matter.
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