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Dec. 7, 2024 - RadixJournal - Richard Spencer
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The Arrest of Nick Fuentes

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All right.
Hope everyone is doing well.
I might just vamp here for five seconds as the connection is taking place.
Hope everyone can hear me and everything.
Well, anyway, I'll start talking.
So, we are forced to discuss Nicholas Jake Fuentes and his recent arrest.
I think he has a hearing coming up in a couple of days.
And I'm actually going to be brutally honest about the situation.
And so I think I might even sort of piss off both sides.
I don't think so.
I'm going to be definitely honest.
So I've seen the video of the incident that took place.
And this came after the election.
It came after Nick went mega viral with a monologue and tweet regarding You know, your body, my choice.
You know, look, he was obviously joking, but kind of asking for a response to that one.
But, you know, he was a comedian.
He is a comedian, of course.
And there were death threats.
There was a massive reaction to it.
People were singing songs about attacking him and so on.
I think that Nick, understandably...
Felt like his life was in danger to some extent.
That someone might very well come over and try to harm him or do something.
So I think his reaction is very understandable.
That being said, this is the problem.
He's been charged with a misdemeanor battery.
And that can go up to one year.
Now, I think that would be totally outrageous if that happened.
But if any of you guys are subscribers to our members-only talks, you can go back to the feed and listen to me talk about it then.
I do think he did the wrong thing at the end of the day.
And I'm just going to be honest.
I would certainly say this to his face.
He should have either not opened the door, or if he did open the door, don't just come out swinging in the sense of spraying mace.
Talk to her if you want.
You don't have to.
You have a right to be in your own home.
So I'm just going to be honest here.
The whole thing was fairly funny and everything, but I think he's in the wrong.
Now, that being said...
The idea of Nick going to prison for this lapse of judgment I think would be just beyond insane.
A lot of people use the term anarcho-tyranny as coined by Sam Francis in Chronicles magazine 30 years ago or maybe even more than that.
It's the notion that The state is tolerating people whom it should arrest or prevent from being a menace to society while it goes after, with almost totalitarian intensity,
maybe even glee, against people who are upholding society.
So it's a sort of worst of both worlds situation.
And, you know, this arrest comes in the shadow of the Daniel Penny situation in New York City.
I've read about the case.
I've obviously not seen every detail of it.
Very tough situation, of course, but I definitely think that he was not attempting to kill this young man, Michael Jackson, impersonator.
I think he was genuinely trying to save the rest of the people in the car.
Actually, in his interrogation, which has been released, and I watched the whole thing, his interrogation with the cops, he said I wasn't trying to kill him.
I was putting him into a hold.
I feared for my life.
I feared for the lives of people around me.
He said, I'm going to kill all y'all.
I'm willing to go to jail for life.
I don't care anymore.
I mean, this character is...
Clearly suffering from mental illness.
I think there was one report that he was suffering from schizophrenia.
He's out of control.
He is a genuine menace to society.
Tough situation, but the idea of putting Daniel Penny away for 15 years from manslaughter seems just outrageous.
I don't know what's going to happen on that front.
But the fact that we're even thinking about putting Nick away for a year for this lapse of judgment, I think is outrageous.
It's the kind of thing that he doesn't have a criminal record.
Maybe some people consider him to be a menace to society due to his live stream, but obviously he's engaging in the First Amendment.
Just the idea that you need to punish him severely or take him off the streets just strikes me as insane.
So I don't know.
What I hope might happen, I hope he gets probation or it's thrown out, perhaps.
I'm not sure that will happen because there is a sort of crime that took place, the macing that was unprompted.
But the idea of punishing him severely just seems insane.
It just seems insane.
But there's all of this tolerance shown towards criminals around the country.
The idea that you'd crack down on Nick Fuentes, just throw the book at him.
That would in itself be just a miscarriage of justice.
It's the kind of thing that I think it's a slap on the wrist, give him some time to learn his lesson, not do it again, and let him go.
I think that would be...
Totally fine.
I was talking actually with someone this afternoon, and this relates to anarcho-tyranny.
There is a degree to which our society does have the worst of both worlds in terms of crime and justice and so on.
There seems to be a sort of assumption of, on the one hand, We deserve total safety.
And on the other hand, there are people such as the assistant DA in New York City who are talking about restorative justice.
There's a viral clip going around of Yuran, the assistant DA who's prosecuting Daniel Penny.
And she was saying, well...
There was a robbery at an ATM of an elderly Asian man, and it was a young black man, but he pushed him down.
He probably didn't mean to hurt him, but I just felt so sorry for him.
Let's not charge him for criminal murder.
Let's bring it down several notches.
This will sort of restore justice on some cosmic level.
So we have a situation like that.
And then we have an almost...
Over-emphasis on safety that I think is sort of anti-civilizational.
And I saw this growing up with much of the anti-bullying and so on that was taking place in school.
Now, again, I'm not endorsing any sort of harsh bullying.
Obviously, bullying can get out of control.
But it's also sort of part of life.
I don't know.
I can remember even when I was at summer camp, I was probably 11 or 12, getting into my first fistfight.
And, you know, the council broke it up and so on.
I actually got a good punch in.
The guy attacked me.
I mean, it's all coming from my perspective, so take it with a great assault.
But in some ways, like...
Part of life is getting into trouble.
Part of life is experiencing some sort of danger.
I don't know.
I mean, if two guys out at a bar get into a fistfight, is that really something that we should charge them with assault for and put them away for a decade?
Isn't that sort of part of life?
So, I don't know.
There is this overriding...
Overriding assumption of total safety, the idea that any sort of violence, even if it's very limited, is just totally something that cannot be accepted.
And you see this, I think that sort of spirit undergirds both the prosecution of, say, Nick Fuentes for something that wasn't a big deal, in my opinion, but also...
The notion that, you know, oh, that guy, yeah, he might have murdered someone, but we're just going to let him off.
There seems to be one sort of impulse running through all those things.
So anyway, just to recap, we had a number of people come in.
I do think, to be brutally frank here, that Nick was in the wrong.
When he stepped out of his house, he didn't have to step out of his house.
And he threw the first punch, as it were.
He maced this woman.
I mean, I'm just going to be honest.
That being said, it's just simply not a big deal.
And the notion of some sort of severe punishment of Nick just strikes me as totally outrageous.
Probation, suspended sentence, some light thing.
That's what you should do in this sort of situation.
Anyway, I guess that's kind of all I got.
I just wanted to jump on and throw out a few ideas.
You guys ask me a question in the comments, I'll answer it.
A good question, that is, not one of your typical inane comments.
Can you countersue?
Well, first off, it's not a civil lawsuit.
It's a criminal complaint.
I mean, I guess he could start suing some of these people who were calling for violence or something.
I don't know how far that will go.
I mean, again, he's a public figure.
There's a free speech element to this, particularly with the public figure.
I mean, basically say that...
The President of the United States is the devil himself and get away with it.
You probably can't say that about your neighbor who's a private citizen.
Would this be a big deal if it had been Pink Shapiro?
I hope conservatives come out in support of Nick.
I hope they say what I said.
It's best to be honest about the situation.
I think some people saying he did nothing wrong or something.
Look, it's okay to do things that are wrong.
We've all done things that are wrong.
It's best to be honest about it.
But again, this notion that he's going to be severely punished is what I find just totally absurd.
I mean, his response was understandable.
It's just a huge difference between someone who, say, walking around the streets of Chicago.
Macing people at random for the thrill of it.
That is totally different.
Getting very anxious and nervous, feeling like people are going to come to your house and attack you, and then kind of striking first.
And striking with a non-lethal weapon.
Mace is meant to get people off your case.
It's not meant to do permanent damage.
Or someone's not meant to kill anyone.
Do you think that Nick paying a less than 1k fine is reasonable in exchange for a deferred yes adjudication?
Yeah. Something like that.
I think that would be fine.
Is he free now?
I think he's free.
I think he did a live stream tonight.
He's just on his own reconnaissance as they say in legalese.
All right.
I'll answer two more questions if you have them.
If this were any other party, would charges even be pursued?
Good question.
I don't know the answer to that.
I would probably say maybe.
I don't know.
Just sort of imagine a different situation.
Your neighbor hates you or something like that.
You got into a big screaming match.
And then you walk over to your neighbor's house to apologize, and she sprays mace in your face.
Again, even in that situation, I don't think that person should be thrown into the jail or spend hard time, like a year in jail.
Is that prison?
What is it?
Over a year's prison?
I forgot what it is.
No, even in that hypothetical situation I came up with, the idea of severely punishing people without criminal records, who are not a menace to society.
They're not doing this all the time.
They're not brazenly and with depravity going around town assaulting people.
I mean, I just don't think that those people should be punished.
Severely. I think the slap on the wrist.
Maybe a literal slap on the wrist.
He should hold out his wrist, take the slap, and then go on his merry way.
That would be reasonable.
Rand Paul's neighbor got arrested for worse.
I forgot the details of that case.
Wasn't there someone who was trying to kill Rand Paul at some point?
Do you think this is an example of an anti-Semitic hate crime?
No. No, I think Nick was freaked out, understandably freaked out, and he just came out swinging, and he shouldn't have done that, as I said.
I'm going to be honest about it.
Do you think Donaldson, the autonomy versus asylum suit, was justified?
I don't know what that is.
All right, guys.
Well, I just wanted to get that off my chest.
Maybe I'll do a couple more of these.
And just to, you know, if I have a thought here and there, get it out via the Substack stream.
All right, guys.
Good luck.
And also, all you subscribers, wouldn't now be a good time...
To get onto the paid subscription so you can listen to the full members-only discussions.
It's not a good thing.
Just think about it.
All right.
I'll talk to you guys later.
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