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April 18, 2017 - RadixJournal - Richard Spencer
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Richard Spencer's Full Q&A at Auburn University (04/18/2017)
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I don't really have a question.
I would just like to thank you for coming today.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I would just like to thank you for coming today, and I would like to point out to Auburn University students that this is the place of education.
This is the place of ideas.
And I'd like to thank this man for challenging the university who canceled him coming here.
I'd like to thank the attorney who won the case.
I'd like to thank the guy who brought him here.
It doesn't matter whether or not I agree with this man or disagree with him, but students are supposed to go to colleges or supposed to go to institutions of learning to be challenged.
I'd like to be very much challenged.
It did seem like...
You have to be quiet.
Please the audience be quiet.
I'm going to take out these things with the help that you're comfortable.
I've been asked this question a number of times.
How did you become this way?
And I think I was this way in the world.
There was no single moment that made me an identitarian.
I think I was always this way, but at the same time, my life is a process of becoming.
And it's a process of experience.
There was a time when I was a leftist.
There was a time that I was a libertarian.
I actually would say, for people who are in the alt-right, who are over 30, the kind of Gen Xers, I think we actually all went through this process.
Almost all of us went through a libertarian process, some of us went to the left, conservatism, and so on.
uh...
i think one remarkable thing is that a lot people videos one street to the dot But they don't seem to have to pass through any libertarianism or something.
For a number of different reasons.
A, the world has become more intense, and B, so much is available on social media and the internet that they just become alt-right in their 20s.
It's really amazing.
Where's that background?
Did you get it?
Yeah, you get it.
Long movie question.
Listening to political theology on the way here.
I see a bit of a tautology in your ideology about what race is.
You speak about race as being constantly evolving.
Correct.
From brotherly wars, we must evolve into who we will become.
Right.
But I also know that race is important.
Race is real.
Race is the basis of identity.
Race is the basis of identity, and identity is shifting.
Race is shifting.
I find myself...
I ask this question to me in good faith.
I see a bit of a tautology.
If I can partner back to one of your favorite movies, The Matrix.
Cypher.
Swallows the red pill.
Truth.
But then decides to be reinstalled.
He's a traitor of sorts.
So the question is, you want us to become who we are.
You are not necessarily about preserving the white race as it exists.
Pink slime and capitalism.
Start something new.
That makes me think that your identity is somewhat grounded in choice.
That we can become who we are.
We have to make that choice.
Race is the basis of identity, but identity is also grounded in choice.
I find myself at a logical impasse.
I'm an American.
I do not know my heritage.
I'm sure I'm European.
But I make my choices, and my choices determine my identity.
Can you?
I ask in good faith.
Try to explain that to Tom.
Yes.
Very good question.
Let me back up.
What this young man is saying is that race isn't just a being, it is a becoming.
And what we mean by that is that race is a product of evolution, it is inherently changing.
The choices you make are going to change who we are.
I think so many of the social factors in the 21st century have had genetic consequences.
How many people of my generation have no children?
How many people who are my age, and I'm about to be 39, just in case you're curious, are living alone or with roommates in some apartment in Brooklyn?
A lot of us.
Well, we have made that choice, whether it's conscious or thought through or not, and that choice will have genetic consequences in the sense that what makes us as a species or subspecies is not going to continue.
And what makes those people who have children, who form families, they are going to ultimately win.
No doubt.
We are a willing being.
I agree that the human being is an animal in the sense that we have animal urges, that we're a product of evolution.
But we're a willing being.
We create the world in our image.
Race is not just a sense of, like, we want to conserve.
Some product of evolution for eternity.
We want to will something greater.
I don't want to will white people as we are today.
Because white people as we are today, we define this world that is leading towards our death and our degeneration and our humiliation.
I want to will something higher.
So I am an idealist.
I'm a racial idealist.
I'm not a race realist.
A race realist would accept everything as it is.
A racial idealist wants to create a new world with a new outcome.
So no, I don't think we can remove will from the equation of evolution.
We reach a certain kind of singularity at some point where pure natural selection is not determining what our species actually is.
Very few people in the white race are dying of starvation or so on.
We're dying of heart disease because we're obese.
We need to we need to understand the power of our will to change our being I Mean I hope that answers it All right, let's have more like crazy nuts fall questions.
That's is my fun My question is: I grew up with a very strong sense of racial identity.
My mother is Japanese and I spent a lot of time with my Japanese family and I didn't start to...
My father was English.
I didn't start to come around to my white identity until maybe a few years ago.
So my question is, how do you get people that are white that have no sense of racial identity whatsoever, they never had a basis for any kind of identity at all, to kind of accept the ideals of the alright and to accept?
They even begin to investigate their own history and their past.
I, in a way, don't have to convince them of anything.
The fact is, I think we've all gone through a process of searching.
I think that most people, most good people, have a sense of emptiness in the modern world.
And they're searching for something deeper.
They'll often find it in kind of nutso things like New Age philosophy or kind of trans-religiosity or even trans-racialism where they'll embrace the destiny of another race as their own.
How many, I don't know, I would assume Auburn is like almost every other university.
How many crazy professors do you have who wrap themselves in a Palestinian flag?
Who are white or Jewish.
They embrace that almost more than who they are.
I think we're all in search of something because we're all experiencing this nihilistic world of modernity.
Thank you.
All right.
For those of you who don't know, I'm the college football guy.
That was me.
And I'm actually up here to concede your point.
I think you do, I think you are right when you say that meaning in your life doesn't come from football or our culture or from going to Kyoto to getting drunk off your ass or anything like that.
That has some meaning in it.
But I think you're wrong when you say that your identity and your meaning comes from your race.
The fact of the matter is, each and every one of you in this room is created in the image of God.
The Bible says that at the end of the time, there will be Neither slave nor free, nor Jew nor Gentile.
Jesus wasn't European.
Sir, I'll actually...
I have enough.
I can answer that question.
I would say that this Yes, Jesus was not European.
But I would say that...
This belief system that you embrace is truly a product of centuries of European Christianity.
It's centuries of religion that was truly informed by us.
And it was informed by actually things that were much older and much deeper than the Christian faith, which was brought to the European peoples.
They had a culture before.
Before Christianity.
They were Europeans, they were Germans, they were Goths, they were Franks, before they were Christians.
And to simply wipe out that history in the name of something Paul said, I think is just to lose sight of the reality.
I would also say there is this danger of Christianity for it to become liberalism with smells and bells.
Or liberalism with biblical quotes.
And so the essence of Christianity, as you say it, is that you're neither man nor woman, Greek nor Jew, and so on.
That is 21st century liberalism.
And I think you should be a little bit skeptical when this supposed tradition that you embrace is identical to what is embraced by corporate HR departments.
Let's just put it there.
I certainly am still a man.
You are still a woman.
He's still black.
We're all people.
Well, that was actually kind of funny.
We're still people.
We are created in the image of God, and we were put on this earth to do good things.
And you might...
Look, I know you want to create a perfect world, and you want to create a better world, and you want to transform the world to the better.
But I'm just up here to inform you that that transformation occurred in 2017 years ago on the hill on Calvary, and that we just celebrated that this past weekend.
Thank you.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
Hey, good evening.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
I have a two-part question.
The first part is going to be first, and then there's a second part.
I just want to mention it.
Do the second part first, please.
So the first part is, tonight you came up here, and you had a lot of different things to say.
I'm an undergraduate myself.
You challenged a lot of perspectives, and I sat there politely, and I listened to you.
But you didn't quote one fact.
There was no figure in what you said.
Now, I mean this very nicely.
And like I said, I listened to you, but you couldn't cite something.
You cited feelings and emotions.
And as you criticized the liberalism that is so much emotion...
You stood up there tonight and said emotion.
You said the world is a worse place.
Don't you feel like that, white people?
But I can say some facts to you.
Literacy rate is the highest it's ever been in global history.
People who die of war is the lowest it's ever been in history.
Infant mortality is the lowest it's been in history.
Women who die in childbirth is lowest in history.
Is this diversity?
Is this global?
What do you think that's a product of?
I think that's a product of globalization.
Diversity?
Did diversity create that?
But look, look, look.
Alright, I don't know how to begin here.
This idea that I want to throw facts at you all, I just find that a little bit lame, to be honest.
I'm gonna speak truthfully.
And look, in terms of actual facts, suicide rates among whites are increasing.
Suicide rates among whites are at epidemic levels, along with drug use, along with some related factors like joblessness, sleeping more, spending their life on Netflix.
The idea You have this kind of progressive, linear history.
It just keeps getting better, folks.
It just keeps getting better.
That just is kind of nonsense.
And we can throw facts at each other all day long, but at the end of the day, a fact only has meaning because of the perspective looking on it.
And so there is no fact that you can cite that's going to destroy identity or make it irrelevant.
I mean, facts...
Let's be honest, are often used to marshal arguments.
So, I don't know what to say.
I mean, facts are lame.
I want to talk about stuff that really matters and that inspires people.
Alright?
Well, thank you.
Do you like fish dicks?
What?
Do you like fish dicks?
No.
You don't like fish dicks?
Yeah.
Damn that.
Oh.
I said the second word is Speak quiet and listen to the questioners.
How are you Mr. Spencer?
My name is Cameron Martinez.
I'm black and Hispanic.
I'm human.
I hadn't heard of you before this event, but I came against the ideals that you were speaking of today.
I'm pretty much against it.
I just don't believe in that, but I came anyways and I wasn't yelling and hooking and hollering while you were talking just because I believe in the whole The fact of, you know, you guys have something to say, y 'all have something to share, so you should be able to share it on this public university.
But with that being said, I do have a question about your honest opinion about all the diversity and the inclusion and the globalization and the commercialism and the ideals that, you know, the system is putting in our head.
Do you think all of that is just going to simply go away because you and other people who think like you think that white people should just be?
I don't really want to be at the top of it all.
I don't want to be at the top of this.
That would be like being on the top of a pyramid scheme that's about to collapse.
That's probably the last thing I want, to be honest.
There are a lot of white people who think, oh, well, you know, I'll be the ultimate, you know, HR director of diversity.
This is how I'm going to climb up the corporate ladder, by embracing diversity.
I hate those people.
But you're not those people.
They're going to continue to be put out into the business.
Yeah, but, you know, at the end of the day, those people who want to be in charge of diversity, they're ultimately...
Just a bunch of weak, moronic, fat idiots.
Like, you know, no one cares about those people, those whites.
Who want to be the managers of diversity, who love the world we're entering.
At the end of the day, those people, they're just total losers.
I don't care about them.
So they're going to lose.
They lose at everything.
They don't have any will.
They don't have any ideals.
So who cares?
They're weighing points.
That's your opinion.
I didn't hear a question, but that's okay.
Can we just say this?
You don't have to preface every question with "I disagree with you." Great.
Ask it well.
I want to say, didn't you say during this talk that you had that the world of individualist Okay.
100k debt working at the Gap.
Talking about working at the Gap, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
It's harder for, I can hear you, something about some race getting harder in life, getting harder in life.
Collectivist rights, and I'm getting the vibe that corporations are overall eating, correct?
Or, maybe I misunderstood you.
Sure.
What's your question?
Okay, so you said something about capitalism being terrible, correct?
That's the vibe.
I'll just go with it.
If that's your vibe, that's fine.
What is your question?
Okay.
So, with all of these things, and you want a collectivist society, whether it's a white nationalist, where it's all white people in one, Africans in another, whatever, that's fine.
Well, it's not my butt.
I'm getting there, buddy.
I'm getting there.
Just hold on.
I know this is a lot of information.
Just wait.
So, how exactly are you any different from the SJW Antifa who, what I understand...
Hold on, hold on.
So, how are you...
How am I different from the SJW?
I don't have blue hair.
No, no, no, obviously.
What I'm saying...
What I'm saying...
How much from the antipode?
How much from the shower?
Okay, but I'd be all...
Okay, I get your question.
I'll answer it briefly.
I am a collectivist.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Individualism is for fags.
A collective that has a hierarchy.
That has a sense of camaraderie.
It's going to destroy a bunch of little individuals that it will gobble up.
There is another great phrase, another great truth that Sam has also bestowed upon me.
And that is, the strength of the wolf is the pack.
The strength of the pack is the wolf.
It's not an either /or.
I can understand who I am as a person because I'm part of a greater family and I'm part of a greater story.
That's where I get meaning.
I don't get meaning from being some disembodied individual floating in the ether.
And let's move on.
Easy.
Bernie.
Hey, I agreed with a lot of things Bernie said, to be honest.
Thank you for coming.
Oh my god, he's a fucking socialist.
Let him speak.
I'm from UAV.
I study nationalism and politics.
I thought the white nationalism was a very interesting role in the movement.
And I think that the U.S. is far too young in itself to have created a shared history.
I go more from Anderson Folk Imagined Communities.
I've read it.
I figured you did.
So I think we've failed to create a nation-state currently.
We're kind of passionate enough for ourselves, picking and choosing our histories.
So I've had kind of a difficult...
A difficult time with the alt-right being as so new.
So where are you borrowing your history from creating the imagined community that Anderson was going to describe as a poet?
That's a huge question and I would probably have to write it...
Why do you think I came all this way to ask you this?
Nobody else would answer me.
As opposed to talking for another hour, let me just answer it in a...
Let me take part of it and answer that.
One thing that Benedict Anderson talks about is this sense of nationalism that we're all reading the same newspaper.
And there was actually something new that was brought with technology that we all watch the nightly news at 5pm.
And we're all doing it.
It's a collective experience, even if you do it alone.
And that is a source of nation building, no doubt.
I would say that what is happening in 21st century America is a profound and radical fragmentation.
We aren't all watching the news at five.
We're tweeting 140 characters.
And no doubt we are experiencing a tremendous fragmentation.
And the question really, and the idea of America as a national community, I mean, give me a break at this point.
We like to talk about that.
We like to go listen to a presidential inaugural and say that we're all Americans.
That's not what's happening.
That's not the trajectory.
The trajectory is towards fragmentation.
And the alt-right is really fundamentally about putting Humpty Dumpty back together again.
And we're all coming from this.
I was born in Massachusetts.
I grew up in Dallas, Texas.
I don't come from some deep-rooted community of bonding.
I think we're all wanderers.
We're all searchers.
And what the alt-right is, is an identity movement, is that search for something bigger and greater than ourselves.
White identity.
This is something that everyone, all sorts of races, all seven genders, have all been engaging this...
I think there's five.
There's five.
There's five common genders now.
We're all, in a way, engaging in this.
But there's one, there's one identity that's rendered, that's considered immoral, not illegal, and that is white identity, and that's what the alt-right is fundamentally about.
It is a kind of...
It's a post-national movement as we've known these nations.
It's something bigger.
It's something that's evolving and forming and that's why it's so exciting.
A much smaller one since you mentioned post-nationalism.
I've been around the world in different countries.
And I'm also noting this trend that people are beginning to less identify themselves with their countries, their names.
They're not all over saying "I'm Chinese" necessarily or "I'm German" necessarily.
They are starting to say "Well, yes, I am German" or "Yes, I am Chinese" but I really identify this way.
More so through religious ideology.
So would you say, sorry, hello.
It's okay.
So would you say were somewhat, this is a reaction to us as a human race moving post-nationalism?
Yes, I do.
I mean, this is a much bigger question.
What Trump represented was a miracle.
I actually explicitly said that this kind of thing can't happen anymore.
Trump called upon these populist nationalist energies that I thought were dead.
But they were actually dormant.
But at the end of the day, Trump is just a stop on this train.
Use that Trump train metaphor.
He's just one stop.
Because everyone knew that when he said make America great again, that was something that only resonated with white people.
Maybe a few exceptions.
Liberals are right, actually.
It was implicitly white nationalist movement.
Implicit.
I don't...
I ultimately don't want white people to say, oh, well, I'm an American.
I'm a real American.
I want them to say, I am.
White.
And that is...
Thank you so much for answering my question.
That is post-national, as we understand it, is radical.
I would actually, if...
I mean, seriously speaking, if you want to talk more about this, we can, but we might get off on some, like, book-length discussion.
I mean, if you're around, if you're coming in from the MF Cop, who would be...
I will do that, sir.
Yes.
I read all kinds of Kamino and art.
It's really ambiguous.
It's weird.
I'm sure we'll have some interesting discussions.
I will seriously talk to you.
Just contact me.
Thank you.
And the last time you should have kicked out, my people suffered for your loans.
So, I'm not interested in a repeat of that.
You can't run from your history.
You can't run from the history of the movie.
History.
White supremacy.
You have Nazis up front!
All right, so your argument is that I am literally Hitler.
You're carrying on?
Uh, not really.
You know, it's kind of...
The fact that I'm actually...
I absolutely...
I absolutely...
I absolutely respect ethnic identity and regional identity.
I think that's part of who we are.
It's just natural.
It's part of this concentric circle of identity.
But the fact that I'm not clearly a German supremacist that I went to invade Poland might be, I don't know, a tip-off that I'm not literally Hitler, but...
It's the same movement.
It's the same movement, okay.
You speak in slogans.
Dude, you're speaking in slogans.
It's just not that interesting.
It's not slogans.
It's go here.
You can't just say this.
What are you arguing against?
You speak in slogans.
You put on a tire or something.
You're not going to let them speak!
That was mean.
Dude, you're just kind of boring.
I didn't hear what you just said.
It wasn't for you, it was for the young lady from the youngest parent.
Yeah.
But anyways, Cat Marble.
What's Snapchat?
I'm asking a question, so we're going to listen.
Please be quiet.
Please tell me how about you kiss my ass.
How about that?
Anyway, I go to the gym, honey.
I go to the gym.
Maybe that's over your ass.
Maybe that's what you said.
Y'all are going to be quiet.
Well, my question is, how are high people going to write to be crazy black people?
I'm a black woman.
I'm looking white.
I don't know what challenges of all things that I know.
I'm not talking to you.
Who am I talking to you?
I asked a question for him.
So please tell me.
And then another question.
How did it feel when you got punched in the face at the inauguration?
I have to ask you a question.
I'll answer the first question rather briefly.
I would never deny that black Americans, that Africans have been oppressed.
That they have experienced pain that I don't know.
And I actually said that quite explicitly in my speech.
I can't understand where you're coming from.
And that's actually part of it.
The fact is, in terms of white people, there is no question systematic discrimination against white people at all levels of society that begins It ends at affirmative action and it does not end there.
All right.
It's kind of hard to work together when you're joking about punching me.
I think there are some genuine people who truly do want to work together.
I think that we can work together in certain things.
But there is this brick wall of working together.
And that is that we have an identity.
You have an identity.
You're part of a story that I can't understand.
And I'm part of a story that you can't understand.
We are fundamentally different.
And that's what makes the world beautiful.
I don't want to turn everyone into just some individual.
I want you to have your history.
I want you to have your meaning.
That's true diversity.
That's what makes the world beautiful.
But part of what makes the world beautiful is whites understanding who we are.
What makes us special?
All right Does the mic go on?
What happened to the moment?
I got it.
I got it.
Wait until we're all finished.
Alright.
I have the simplest question.
Am I wide enough?
You're looking at me right now.
Am I wide enough for this whole...
Exactly what am I talking about?
What the hell am I talking about?
Am I wide enough?
Are you looking at me like I'm wide enough?
Do you want me to answer this question?
Yeah, go ahead.
Actually.
You do look white to me.
I do!
I know!
And I'm actually half white.
Yeah, half my family's in Iran, though.
They have jobs, you know.
I know, I know.
Am I still white enough?
Yeah, you're, like, whiter than I am.
I'm still white enough.
It's kind of a funny question.
How is it?
I don't get it.
What is what?
I'm trying to ask you.
I'm just saying you're white.
Whiteness in.
Wait, wait, wait.
Who else can you ask that question?
What other kind of people do you ask that question?
Do you ask black people that question?
Do you ask black people?
Are you black enough?
I'm asking you!
Is there any other race of people?
Is there any other kind of people for whom you doubt their identity?
You ask this question that's meant to disassemble and break apart their identity.
Who else do you ask that kind of question to?
I actually ask everybody what they do.
Really?
Okay, give me an example.
Give me an example of another race of people that you ask that kind of question to.
Black!
Black!
Okay, I'll go do it right now.
Go do it right now.
Ask a black person in this room what is black enough.
Ask them.
Ask them what is Baganos right now.
Do it.
Baganos.
I can't hear exactly what's going on.
I'm trying to see where it cuts off.
Where does the white cut off?
I will answer that when you ask that same question to black people.
There are black people in this room you can ask right now.
What was the answer?
Ain't no such thing as black enough.
Alright, so we'll go with that.
Ain't no such thing is white enough.
All right.
I wanna press this, I came in not even know who you are, not knowing anything about anything you stand for.
And so my entire introduction to you was here tonight.
And I found a couple of things kind of strange.
First I want to ask, do you believe in evolution?
And have you read Guns, Germs, and Steel?
No, I'm serious.
I'm serious.
Yes, I believe in evolution.
Okay.
Have I read...
Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel.
Yes.
Many years ago.
Kind of a dumb book.
Have you read Richard Lenn?
No, sir.
My question is, Africa.
We stayed in Africa.
What?
No, I'm talking about...
Alright, sir, stop!
No, if we were playing a game of Risk, and we ended up owning all of Asia, do you think we would have ended up being as prolific as we are now?
Do you think whites would be as racist?
Do you think whites are, if instead of starting in Europe, we lived in North America, or in Africa, or in Asia, if Europe was only...
I see what you're saying.
Okay.
This is basically a kind of geographic determinism of Jurek Diamond, where there's all these special qualities to Europe that we're able to domesticate, crops and animals and so on, and that's what made us great.
I feel, yes, this is a chicken and egg question.
There is no question that...
I mean, first of all, let me back up a little bit.
The fact that we didn't evolve in Asia means that we are who we are.
There's this question of environmentalism versus genetics or racialism.
In some ways, that shouldn't be a division.
We are who we are because we evolved in a certain environment.
We took on certain characters.
I am who I am.
I have blue eyes.
Precisely because my ancestors evolved in a Nordic climate.
So that whole division between genetics and environment just collapses.
I don't know if that answers your question.
So you're saying, no, I don't think there's some...
No, it's not like this is the movie Prometheus and the white race was dropped here by aliens and we could have been anywhere else.
No, I obviously don't believe that, no.
Do you believe that whites would still be as gray as whites are if they had lived anywhere else?
No, because we wouldn't be who we are.
We evolved in a certain climate and under certain conditions.
I mean, the essence of evolution, Darwinian evolution, if I were to sum it up in a sentence, is that the gene pool is plastic to the environment.
So we are who we are because we have this history, we have this experience.
So no, it's just this fallacy that you can pick up a race and place it somewhere else.
Now, we are in a totally different world.
We have reached a singularity where natural selection is actually not operative.
So therefore, I believe if you put whites on the moon or on Mars or so on, it would actually take on our character and take on our being.
Because we've passed through this process.
I have a second question.
So you were talking about football.
There's this person we've never known, we've never seen before, probably will never see again, and we cheer for him whenever he crosses the touchdown.
What makes us less connected to him than Romans that died 2,000 years ago?
Because you're part of their family.
You are literally their ancestors.
That's what connects you to them.
But they're 2,000 miles across the ocean, but this man that was on the field grew up 100 miles away in the same time period.
So how are we less connected to animals?
Look, I think geography, this seems, your question just seemed to be about geography and ancestry.
Ancestry trumps geography.
That's my answer to every question you're going to ask.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Who is this?
Hello.
Richard, thanks for coming to Auburn University and you're bringing a free new question this time.
It's a question, not just for you, but also for Everyone who's went to Auburn like that.
First question.
Should Florida State's quarterback, Jameis Winston, and Heisman Trophy winner have been allowed to play in the National Championship and defeat Auburn?
That's my first question.
And the second question is...
No.
Okay.
Do you have any hope that Auburn will be able to win the National Championship if our football players keep getting shot?
In this city and kicked off the football team every summer.
Thank you.
No.
You know, there's something, I don't want to express any northern superiority because I do love the south.
But there is one thing, I have a degree from the University of Chicago, and there actually is one thing very special about that university.
They saw where all this was going.
The first Heisman Trophy winner, whose name I'm forgetting at the moment.
Actually, I went to the University of Chicago.
They had a, believe it or not, they had a stellar football program.
When I actually attended, I was in my early to mid-twenties, and I would go look at a practice, and I'd be kind of like, I could actually play for this team, and that's kind of an insult to the team.
But they realized where this was going, and they got out.
And they were a Division II or Division III school.
The fact is, you know, I want to watch white people play football.
I don't care if the game suffers or something.
We don't get to see some guy who runs a 4-0-40.
I don't care.
I want to watch a sport that has some connection to who I am.
You're not interested in the drama of who gets shot?
No, I try to avoid reading that.
It can really change the, yeah, it can really change the bulls.
Yes.
Hi.
So earlier tonight you stated that you do agree that Blacksmith press owner was a history.
Yes.
You also claimed that you do see that whites were wrong in slavery.
Putting them on reservations is probably the nicest thing we ever did.
You've also called for peaceful ethnic cleansing.
I actually have not called for that to be.
No, I haven't.
No, I use the term peaceful ethnic cleansing actually in a speech, and I was describing the Paris Peace Conference of 1919.
Well, let me answer that, and then you can answer your next one.
I did not call for peaceful ethnic cleansing.
I was describing the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, which is actually an example of peaceful ethnic cleansing.
After the First World War, this terrible event, a brothers' war that ultimately destroyed our civilization, far more than the World War II, to be honest, there was a nation-building experiment that took place in Paris in 1919.
They knew old nations were reborn, Poland being an example, a nation, a state that did not exist, but a nation that's a people that did exist.
New nations like Yugoslavia were created out of whole cloth, in a way.
That was an example of nation-building, and yes, that was an example of peaceful ethnic cleansing.
That was defined by nationality and ethnicity and religion, and yes, the map was redrawn.
What happened to the Soviet Union is also an example of that.
They were actually a kind of nation-building experiment where they would give people a national poet or something like that.
Ukraine is an example of a synthetic nation, to be honest.
Is black genocide right?
And it said, and I quote, instead of asking how we can make reparations for slavery, colonialism, and apartheid, or how can we equalize academic scores and incomes, we should instead be asking questions like, does human civilization actually need the black race?
Is black genocide right?
And what is the best way and easiest way to dispose of them?
So, my last question is how you can stand up there and claim that it is easier to be black because of a stronger sense of ethnic identity and a big group full of African American peers, African American police officers standing out there protecting you when you have things like that written in your book.
Thank you.
That piece was not actually at allright.com.
That is at Alternative Right.
It was written by Colin Liddell.
He was making a rhetorical point that...
I don't know what to say.
I mean, take it up with him.
It's not...
I just think you're racist, and you think that the separation...
Alright, you get one more question, but you're kind of boring me, to be honest.
Okay, well, it's not that your question is bleached, so...
What?
I stopped in your talk, let me finish.
You said that the separation between blacks and whites is what makes this country beautiful.
So you're essentially saying that the racial division in our country makes it beautiful?
I don't understand that.
I didn't really say that.
What I said was...
Okay, look.
I want there to be difference in the world.
I want Africa to be African.
But I also want Europe to be European.
I actually want Native Americans...
Native Americans is a PC word.
Indians, American Indians.
I want them to become themselves.
I don't want them to become...
Vulgar parodies of white people.
And that's what they are.
And I'm not saying that to insult them.
Many, many American Indians have supported me, actually, in controversies I've involved in.
I don't want them to become vulgar parodies of white people, where they become poor, drunk white people because of the things that we've done to them.
I want them to truly become themselves.
I want there to be difference in the world.
I do think that's what makes the world beautiful.
The ethnic racial strife that we see in this country does not make it beautiful, no doubt.
But that is an expression why we ultimately need different countries.
We need to go our own way in life.
Thank you.
I'm white and I'm proud and I'm a libertarian and I'm proud of that too.
But whenever I tell someone I'm a libertarian, I like to describe it as I want the government to be smaller, lower taxes and all that.
And I feel like you're not really saying that much about that.
You're really focusing a lot on race.
I don't really understand why you're focusing so much on race instead of...
Talking about taxes, because I don't want to put people to sleep.
But I feel like it's a bigger issue, and you're kind of dirtying libertarianism with a bunch of race talks.
I'm not dirtying libertarianism.
You guys are boring all on your own.
Yeah, fuck libertarianism.
My taxes, socialism, big government forever.
That's right, yeah.
So the government sent you to rally against free speech.
Is that what you're trying to do?
You're going to rally against free speech.
Dude, I'm not a libertarian.
What's your point?
I am.
Everyone should be a libertarian.
Go to the Mises Institute.
You guys can masturbate about gold coins.
Hello, Richard.
Hi.
Quick question.
I would like to know your feelings on the...
Because I feel like it's a pretty big issue, right?
I mean, racism defined as...
I mean, I feel like racism should be defined as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonization based on, you know, rights, period.
But, you know, in the past couple of years, there's been this big inflection of the...
I see what you're saying.
Institutional racism, and I feel like you could...
If you focus on that a little bit more, you can get your message across a little bit better, maybe.
I have two more questions.
One.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, sure.
So you're talking about how racism went from being hatred or animosity directed from any race towards any other race, right?
From this structural oppression that people of color face that white people don't?
That's anti-whiteness.
Straight up.
That's intellectual anti-whiteness.
And ultimately, that is going to be used for violence, to justify violence against white people.
And it already is.
When you see these antifa out there, South Africa is a good example.
And when you see the antifa hordes out there that will just attack us just for coming to speak here, that's an example.
These people are completely incited by this bullshit intellectual crap that is meant to single us out as a uniquely evil people.
And frankly, it's just anti-whiteness.
And if any of you are in a class...
If your professors pull this shit, call them on being anti-white.
And they will not know what to say to you.
Because they have no incidents.
Just one more.
All right, so throughout your speech in the Q&A, I heard you say a couple of times, just a couple of quotes here, you know, you said, we as humans, you know, we will create the world around us in our image.
We might have been referring to white humans, I'm not sure.
You also said, you know, somebody said, you replied to somebody, I'm going to speak truthful.
You also said, I am who I am.
This is kind of weird where college girls wear a t-shirt that's so long.
You don't know if they're wearing underneath...
anything underneath it.
That's a new trend.
I kind of feel a little...
Uh oh, she's back.
Alright.
No.
Okay.
It's just kind of a weird fashion trend.
I mean, whatever.
Yeah, okay.
Just you hit on the truth and tricking us a lot.
All I wanted to know, Richard, was, you know, what do you define as true or truth?
That's deep, man.
Okay, next.
Hey, Richard.
Hey.
Good to see you, man.
Thanks for doing what you do for us.
I appreciate that.
I want to know what influence our movement today in politics?
Is the theory of Eurasianism a threat in the near future to our race?
Okay.
This is a very big question.
This is a reference to Alexander Dugan and the fourth political theory, and I actually have a little bit of hesitation answering it because I feel like we might get way off into some place where no one understands what I'm talking about.
I understand.
Okay.
I think a key aspect of Dugan, and I would encourage people to Google him, be critical of him, of course, but learn about him, is that there are...
Three major ideologies of the 20th century.
There is fascism, there is communism, there is liberalism.
Liberalism was triumphant in 1989, 1991, and in effect, we are all trapped in this end of history logic of liberalism, of basically the individual as a subject of history.
I think the fact that Dugin is just simply raising these questions is a really positive thing, and I'm glad he's there doing it.
In terms of is Eurasianism a threat, is there a kind of Slavic and Asian bloc that would ultimately be a geopolitical threat to the white race?
That is certainly possible.
I just hesitate a little bit about getting into this.
It's going to be a bit arcane for people.
I would say that that East-West division of the Cold War, of Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and so on, it is ultimately two heads of the same equal, and that is ultimately the Roman Empire, and that is ultimately a common culture.
So I am certainly far more pro-Slavic.
I'm a pro-Slavic person the way I think about geopolitics.
But I really don't want to...
I'm not trying to shut you down.
I just don't want to get into these arcane matters.
I think we've actually kind of way over people's heads.
Okay, thank you.
Richard?
Richard?
Thanks for coming out.
I have one question for you.
You said in an interview on NPR with Kelly McEvers, illegal immigration is not nearly as damaging as legal immigration.
Legal immigration, they're here to stay, their children are here, and so on.
Your ex-wife is a Russian-American and you have a child together.
Please explain that.
She's not my ex-wife.
Oh, you're separated, right?
No.
Okay, well the things I said, so you were separated, whatever.
So you're still together?
Yes.
She's Russian-American?
Yes.
And you have a child together?
Did her family come here legally or illegally?
They did come here legally, yes.
So you're saying she's a big problem and you have a kid together?
Uh, no, because she's white.
You said immigration.
You did not specify if it was white.
You said immigration.
Look, look, look.
When I'm referring to the legal immigration question, they're not coming from Europe.
They're not sending their best.
The legal immigration question is a racial question.
Because they aren't coming from Europe.
Legal immigration is, in my opinion, far more demographically damaging than illegals.
Because illegals, whatever you want to say about them, they very often go home.
They very often come here and don't really integrate and change the culture.
The mass non-white legal immigration is far more damaging demographically.
I don't want all white people, all Europeans, to come to the United States.
I do want other nations to be intact.
But yes, immigration is not a problem when it's white people.
Legal and illegal immigration is a problem when it's non-white people.
So it's pretty simple.
You can probably specify it then.
Okay, I just did it.
Hello, Richard.
Hi.
First, I want to thank you for speaking out against the Syrian bombings of Trump.
I wish that we could see the sort of protest for warmongers like John McCain and Marco Rubio.
It's so funny.
It's so funny.
It's so funny that all these antifa...
Where are they when it comes to the war?
Why aren't they protesting the war?
They seem to be protesting people who are anti-war.
I don't get it.
It's almost like they're tools of the military-industrial complex.
I don't get it.
I don't know.
It's very interesting.
I'm also glad that we have identified in the question and answer that you're not quite literally Hitler, but maybe Stalin.
Stalin.
Literally Stalin.
I don't want to go back to the dead horse, but I kind of want to go back to the football.
Because I think it's actually very interesting as far as the identitarian perspective.
You know, I'm actually a Georgia Bulldog fan by birth, so it's kind of a hostile audience for me too.
But, you know, I grew up, you know, my family wasn't particularly religious, but we grew up every single Saturday watching Georgia Bulldogs.
And it always ended up in pain and misery, so that's either here or there.
So that is itself part of my family's story.
And that is an aspect, I think, that you'll see throughout the South.
That, you know, the family time, you know, right now, maybe it's absurd to be outside or whatever, but that's what it is.
That's part of a southerner's family tradition.
Now, I understand that you were born in Massachusetts, so, you know, as a Yankee, you know, it's a little bit different.
But, you know, isn't there too something to be said there?
Like, is this obsession with race, you know, there's nothing wrong with taking pride in your heritage.
I take it as pride in being a southerner.
But isn't the obsession with race itself, especially considering the historical definitions and all that, isn't race itself an obsession on that kind of bullshit?
I get what you're saying.
Look, I get what you're saying.
And I would be wrong to deny that there isn't some identitarian quality to football.
It's about family watching it together.
It is about a sport, a beautiful expression of the human form at some level.
So I get it, and I actually try to acknowledge those things even though I do demand the banning of college football.
But yes, I get it, and I just think this is somewhat of the sickness or the tragedy of white identity is that we do define ourselves by these things.
But I'm just acknowledging this tragedy.
But I'm not denying that you have an identity that is, to some degree, based around watching.
And your whole point is being part of a story, though.
And the story of a southerner is very different than a northerner, very different than a Texan, very different than a German, than an Italian.
Isn't this whole focus on trying to homogenize this entire thing actually decreasing the uniqueness of our heritage?
How the alt-right or identitarians are the ones homogenizing the white race is just a little bit odd.
When I'm driving around the highway and everything looks like the place I just passed, everything looks the same, everything is maybe literally the same in terms of the same stores, the same truck stops, the same...
Gross shit they're selling at these convenience stores.
That is what is homogenizing.
Not just the whites, but homogenizing the world.
The idea that because I have racial pride that I'm destroying this regional culture is just a bit much.
Thank you.
So it happened pretty recently and I haven't seen your comment about it, you know, it's a press or anything.
So you recently...
Yeah, and I say it like an endorsement of Tulsi Gabbard on Twitter.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I believe that was in response to Trump's bomb in Syria.
Yes.
Or a missile strike in Syria, yes.
And I want to know, and I am aware that it's ironic coming from you that, you know, that you're praising political decisions of a...
I want to know the differences between another endless Jewish world and exhibiting the greatness of our race through colonialism and building societies that are reflecting of our own image.
Okay.
Look, in terms of the Tulsi Gabbard thing, I do...
That wasn't meant to be like a gotcha or anything.
I genuinely want to hear your comment.
Right.
I mean, I do admire Tulsi Gabbard.
I think she's brave, and I think she's wise on many issues.
And so I'm not a dishonest person.
When someone who might be very different from me, someone who comes from a different perspective, says something that's truthful, someone who's trying to prevent World War III, of course I'm going to say, yes, go Tulsi.
That's great.
Look, I don't...
Trump was truly amazing for the alt-right.
He was truly amazing for nationalism around the world.
It's pretty remarkable.
But look, if he's going to become George W. Bush 2.0, and that's what I thought then, I'm a little...
I'm feeling better about him now.
I think some people around him have explicitly said that's not what they're going to be about.
Then I am...
I'm back on the train.
He is going to truly, truly pursue the things he promises in his campaign.
But if he is going to go totally off course, then yes, I'll come up with another political strategy.
It's pragmatism.
And if someone who's non-white, who doesn't identify with the alt-right, says something true and wise, I'm going to give her a shout out.
That's all it is.
Can you explain the difference between attacking Syria and colonialism?
What?
They're clearly different.
Earlier, it sounded like you were praising colonialism, because you said that you were reflecting...
Look, colonialism and the age of conquest and so on was an expression, certainly, of European power.
It was also a kind of tragic expression.
I mean, in some ways, the chickens have come home to roost in terms of colonialism.
It's not something that I would hope that we would pursue in the future.
So it's just a very complicated and kind of tragic story.
So no, I don't just admire everything white people do.
It's like, yay, white people!
We just sent a missile into Syria.
Yay, us!
No, of course I'm not like that.
Alright, next.
Hi, my name is Joshua Milton.
If you can't tell, I happen to be biracial.
I'm black and white, so I have a pretty good understanding of what those certain forms are like.
I just find it interesting how Not, this is a general statement, but not general, you specifically.
How privileged white males such as yourselves come up with the idea that diversity is such a bad thing.
When we live in a country that is known for being as diverse as possible, religion, race, everything.
So my question is, without being around the bush or giving a bad analogy and whatnot, could you give me a direct reason as to what is wrong with diversity?
What is wrong with diversity?
It makes the world ugly.
It makes the world lose all meaning.
It's a way of bringing to an end a nation and a culture that was defined by white people.
I could go on...
For hours.
What's good about diversity?
And what I mean by that is that it's not just diversity.
Look, we all love diversity in the sense of diverse viewpoints, or I want to learn about this new subject.
That's all wonderful.
That's not what diversity is.
Diversity is affirmative action.
It's about transforming white institutions into things that are unrecognizable.
Diversity is about...
Creating some new, non-racial, non-identitarian human beings that basically just parrot the same kind of liberal crap but all have different skin color.
Diversity is awful.
There's nothing good about it.
It is what is destroying the world.
Okay, let's do this.
I'm going to actually change what I said.
Let's do a lightning round.
So really quick, I'm going to be quick, and we're going to try to get through five people, but we have to be really quick, and I will do the same.
You, go.
Does the state's power supersede, I guess, basic human liberties, do you think?
Human liberties are only possible through the state, and so I think your question is not open.
My name's Jeremy.
I'm a Southern nationalist.
My question is, as compared to quite a few people that our own government is weaponizing leftist minorities, just people in general, against us, white and Southerners, I suppose, more of those.
Is it apparent to you that there is a genocide against white people going on in this nation?
And what are we doing?
Yes.
It's not a genocide in the way that we understand it from the history books.
We're not being rounded up and put into camps or put into train cars or so on.
It is first and foremost obviously a cultural and social and institutional genocide.
That is clear.
That is actually...
Objectively true, that's what these institutions brag about, is that we're going to have less white people, effectively.
They might not use those words.
But it is a genocide in a deeper way than that, in the sense that it's going to fundamentally transform the essence of the American nation, the essence of which was based on Europeans and Anglo-Saxons.
So absolutely there is a genocide going on.
What we're doing right now.
It's a start.
So, affirmative action directly benefits white women the most.
So, besides that, what ways do you really feel, other than affirmative action, how do you feel white people are more present?
You know, often times when I speak with African Americans, they'll say this line of it benefits white women the most.
And it's like, okay, maybe you can kind of get to that point where it benefits white women the most, but when institutions are directly, objectively trying to hire more African Americans, more non-whites, I think they might be benefiting from it.
I just don't really buy this.
My name is Trevor.
I'm from right around here.
I'm a group fan of your work and I'm glad I came here.
I just wanted to say on behalf of all my friends that came here with me today that you don't represent Auburn and you should not have come here and you should go fuck yourself.
Alright, so are demographics the only problem for legal immigration in Europe?
Say that again?
Are demographics the only problem for legal immigration in Europe?
No.
I mean, demographics is one measurement of a greater transformation that's going on.
But this transformation is cultural and ideological and religious and all sorts of things.
Okay, so financial return, like the aspect of finance, is not an issue to you when it comes to immigration?
I would oppose immigration, mass immigration, even if someone could definitively prove to me that it would make everyone rich.
But they can't, so it's not a problem.
You know, I just, I answered that question.
If that is true, I don't care.
Even if that's true, I don't care.
Alright, really quick, let's get through these.
No more people come up.
I'm going to address everyone, but then we're going to have to go through that, so no more questions after these.
Go.
Alright, alright.
So, you often talk about religion and, well, yeah, race is not a biological entity for human species.
Alright.
Our golden retrievers do not exist.
What is a golden retriever?
Does that exist?
A breed.
Exactly, race is a breed.
It's not a different species.
Yeah, I didn't say it's a different species.
Alright, alright, alright.
You gave the tone that somehow...
Different dog breeds can interbreed.
Ben, let me speak.
You gave the tone that somehow whites are getting better because of everything they've been through, through evolution, that...
Well, that's just not true.
You need way more time, evolutionarily speaking, for that to happen.
For ANY I'm sorry to harp on golden retrievers, but they were invented in the 20th century.
Like, evolution can occur really fast.
Richard, I'm sorry, I just cannot.
Golden retrievers are created by artificial selection.
Darwinian evolution, there is no fundamental difference between artificial and natural selection.
Just a question of who's doing the selection.
The actual process is the same.
And the fact that one is way, way more intense than the other.
Not necessarily.
Yes, yes.
That's why we're able to domesticate animals and crops in such a small period of time.
What's your question?
Okay, what I'm saying is that there's no biological basis for you to claim that white people are better or will perform better or do anything better.
I'm not claiming that white people are unique.
In the sense of people are unique, have you ever watched the Olympics?
How many East Asians are in the 100-meter finals?
Let me finish.
I mean, sorry, I don't want to dump on East Asians.
No, let me finish.
My point is, if you're not having...
They created anime, but so, you know...
Okay, okay.
If you cannot use biologists...
They're officially good.
Alright, I'm bored with you.
No, I got bored for your talk.
I'm bored!
Dude, let me speak!
The point is, okay, the point is, a culture in Europe is very, very diverse, and saying that you have an European culture, if it was the same thing, it's just like, it makes no sense.
So what defines why culture decides the color of your skin if you cannot define it biologically and you cannot define it culturally?
Actually, Google defines it biologically.
So, sorry, take it up with Google, girlfriend.
Next.
Last one, and I'm out.
Nice to meet you, Richard.
Good to see you.
I watched an interview for the club this weekend at Texas A&M and I saw you earlier when we spoke on that album.
I know you got your memes here and they all have their inferiority conflicts and they're going to follow you, but you all are going to let me talk.
We're doing it.
We're doing it.
You've got the last questions.
I read a Willie Lynch letter, and he said in that letter that the things he created were spent on his axis for hundreds of thousands of years.
I'm sure you're aware of that.
When it comes to color barriers, white men raping black women to create color barriers between blacks.
Bruh, the FBI conspired against the Black Panther Party.
We're pointing to, bro, brother, you can turn around.
Turn around.
But I mean, almost literally, white men don't rap black men.
In terms of crime, statistics, and victims...
You're going to let me talk.
You and your little follower here.
Look, let me talk, brother.
That's all I'm saying.
Throughout history, government has conspired to destroy things of diversity and unity.
So you can't sit here and say that Native things are happening to white people when they happen to minorities since the inception of this country.
Like we all...
Right, right.
Let's do the names.
No, bro.
Just go.
Flow.
Just flow right here.
Start talking.
Don't interrupt him.
Just flow.
I want to hear this.
Go.
What I'm saying is, throughout American history, when it comes to the Willie Lynch letter, Jim Crow, Quintel Crow, different government programs that was used to destroy black unity.
I have no earthly idea what you're saying.
Thank you, Auburn.
We really appreciate it.
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