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Dec. 8, 2015 - RadixJournal - Richard Spencer
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Allies of Color

Nathan Damigo of The Nameless Organization joins Richard to discuss the White Student Union phenomenon. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit radixjournal.substack.com/subscribe

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Well, Nathan, welcome to the Radix Podcast.
How are you?
I'm doing pretty good.
I'm glad to be here.
I'm very excited that you invited me on today.
Great.
Well, since this is your first time, why don't you tell us who you are?
Just for anyone out there, my name is Nathan Amigo.
I helped co-found an organization about a year ago that was really looking to We've put pressure on individuals and institutions across the country that were promoting anti-white defamation and anti-white discrimination and scapegoating, primarily in the college and university school system.
We've actually, over the last year, been pretty successful with that.
We had a very successful campaign at the We had a couple other very successful campaigns.
One was at Appalachia State University.
Another one was at Boston University, in which we were able to raise a lot of awareness about some of what was happening on the college campuses there as far as the promotion, either Whether it was in the case of Boston University,
a professor there named Saida Grundy actually made some anti-white tweets and we were able to really just go after that and let the people at the school know that people were aware of that and that we were no longer going to just stand by and allow just this really I think we're good to go.
promoted at their school.
And that's a, that really, it got picked up by some of the local Boston newspapers.
And in fact, one of the writers wrote a, a fairly non-biased critique of what we were doing.
And so we've just, we've been able to put a lot of pressure on these institutions in order to ensure that they are not, that they are not, You know, promoting this type of stuff.
This is something that hurts us as individuals.
It hurts our friends, our families.
And in one case, I think about a year or two ago, there was actually a shooting in which this young black man, unfortunately, shot several white people as a result of when he was asked why he did it.
What he was being taught at school.
And so this is something that really needs to be addressed.
And there's a lot of support out there for something like that.
People are very tired of the anti-white culture that we're living in.
And so we're just looking to address that.
And we're looking to basically promote European rights and ensure that we are not being defamed or scapegoated.
Yeah, that sounds great.
So your organization was originally called the National Youth Front, but from what I understand, you've gone through some rebranding and things like that.
So why don't you just talk a little bit about that, just because I'm sure some listeners might want to get in touch with you or join.
Yeah, definitely.
Right now, we had to take down some of our websites.
We had a little issue.
I don't want to go too into it, but we wanted to...
Avoid litigation.
There was another organization that's been around for quite some time that felt that the name we were using perhaps violated their copyright.
So we decided that we'd make the best decision and we didn't want to infringe upon them if they felt we were violating that copyright.
right.
We want to make sure that everything we do is on point and that we are not doing anything that is going to harm other communities.
So we We took everything down.
We're looking at revamping the organization.
I'm really excited about this because when we revamp our organization, we're going to be looking at relaunching in a few months from now.
It's going to be, in a way, a much more mature organization.
A European rights organization explicitly.
And so that is something that I'm pretty excited with.
I think a lot of people are going to be excited about it as well.
And we've actually, you know, I've never set up an organization before.
So this is all very new to me.
And we are going to be able to, I was able to learn a lot.
From my experiences over the last year.
And so now we're pretty much ready to relaunch and do everything just with the utmost professionalism possible.
And that's something I'm really excited about.
So right now we have a temporary blog that people can go to.
And the URL for that is pretty long.
So I think I'll have to shoot you a link for that so you can provide.
What's the name of the blog?
It's the dispossessed temp, something like that.
Forward slash something, something, something.
Yeah, it's very long.
But yeah, we basically switched just for the time.
We just thought it was kind of funny.
Everything that's happening in Western civilization right now is, I believe the French refer to it as the Great Displacement.
We feel that and we experience that in everything that's going on and that's something that we've tried to address.
Even us trying to address it in a way we've kind of, even our original name we had, it's kind of in a way been taken from us.
We just kind of threw our hands up.
We had a good attitude about it and said, you know what, we'll just kind of use this jokingly in the meantime before we set up the new LLC with the new name.
So yeah, anyone, if they're on Facebook, they can find us if they just type.
It reminds me of The Dispossessed Majority by Wilmot Robertson, which is an amazing book.
It's a bit dated, I guess, in some ways.
It was written during the Cold War and that kind of stuff.
But nevertheless, I think that's a book that everyone interested in these issues should read because it's brilliantly written and really insightful.
Great volume.
Anyway, let me ask one question before we dive into the whole white student union issue.
Are you still going to be focused on young people?
Yes, our focus is while we do not have anyone can join.
We are very much concerned with the rights of all European people, regardless of their age.
But our focus is primarily on the youth.
We understand that they are the ones who are feeling many of the impacts of social policies that were put in place decades ago.
And we want to focus on them and give them a support network.
Specifically on promoting our organization around college campuses across the country.
There's been, and I think we're going to talk about this soon, there's been a very big phenomenon that's happened with these white student Facebook pages recently.
And there is very much a desire for representation of white European students because of what is being taught in the classroom and the.
We do not have...
What is typically a popular opinion at this point because of the anti-white culture that we're living in.
So we want to provide a support network that isn't really going to be working inside the system at this point.
It's going to be working outside the system, but we want students knowing that we are there and that we are working hard to build a network for them.
So you mean outside the university system?
Yes.
Okay, yeah, that makes sense, because I think it probably is going to be very hard to get a white student union passed by all these committees and things, at least at this point.
I can remember when I was an undergraduate.
Many years ago, I was part of an organization.
You do have to apply.
It was not a white student union.
I was, I guess, racially unconscious at that point in my life, which is probably the best way to put it.
I don't think anyone is racially ignorant.
No one is racially blind.
I think unconscious is maybe the best way to put it.
But anyway, I know all that.
Shit that goes into getting funding, getting your group recognized, and all that kind of stuff.
A white student union probably couldn't be recognized at this point.
But anyway, let's just dive into this issue, because I think this issue is fascinating.
And I'm talking, of course, about the white student union phenomenon.
I think it's fascinating.
I think there's probably a lot of confusion.
There's probably also a lot of misinformation going on.
Let's just dive in.
Why don't you explain what's happening?
I think a lot of people who are listening to this probably have an inkling that there have been some Facebook pages, effectively, that have been established.
But why don't you talk about what is going on?
How big a phenomenon is this?
How serious is it?
Give us a primer on this whole issue.
For those who haven't been following up or who have just followed up enough to know that it's going on but haven't really...
I've been able to follow the entire roots of where it's come from.
Several weeks ago, an individual at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign set up a Facebook page for a white students' union at the school that they went to in response to a BLM activist group.
That came to the campus and was organizing there and was holding events there.
And that individual felt isolated and felt that they wanted to find a way to reach out to other students and see if anyone else there was interested in taking part of this.
And that individual actually – I can confirm that that individual actually is a student there.
There was a lot of confusion as to whether or not that was a legitimate page from a student or whether or not that was a troll.
But that was actually a real person that I myself have actually made contact with.
We know that this is a real phenomenon.
What had happened was that after that page got put up, a lot of attention got brought to it by the BLM activists to the staff of the school there.
And they were not happy with it.
Many of the staff are in support of the BLM movement, and they are not approving of any other messages or alternative ideas other than what they've been promoting for the last few decades.
And so what they did was they reached out to Facebook and claimed that the Facebook page was violating the school's copyright, which is a reoccurring incident in anyone who's trying to do anything remotely pro-white.
They took down the page.
After they took down the page, surprisingly enough, I'm not sure...
Which news outlets it was, but several different news outlets broke the story and it kind of went national.
And after it did, I think just within a couple days, probably about 30 more popped up in its place.
There was one for the school, but 30 more popped up for other schools around the country.
That created quite a bit of a stir.
People were trying to figure out whether or not this was just an elaborate troll hoax or whether or not these individuals were actually students at their school who were trying to find a way to collectivize and find a way to Speak out and have a voice in which they wouldn't be socially ostracized at the school,
which can be very difficult for a young college age individual to do.
Originally, many of the news networks out there were saying that they were doing investigative journalism.
I think BuzzFeed was the one that kind of comes to mind, which claimed that they were all hoaxes.
Immediately after that, Breitbart actually did a very good article, and they actually spent the time contacting all the individuals who were running the pages.
And perhaps because Breitbart is more open to our ideas that perhaps those individuals felt more comfortable in talking to their journalists.
But they were actually able to verify that many of these pages were legitimate pages that had been started by students and individuals.
At these different schools, some of which actually weren't even white students.
I think one claimed to be an Asian student and another one a Latino student who were just sick and fed up of the scapegoating and anti-white narrative that's being pushed on college campuses.
There are allies of color.
Yeah, definitely.
That's great.
I'll just jump in real quick.
I remember, gosh, I think it was 2010 when someone brought me to give a brief talk at Vanderbilt.
So this was a number of years ago.
And I did remember that there was obviously a lot of hostility.
And there was hostility amongst black students.
I think we should...
We should have things like white student unions, which are, in a way, we exclude people.
That it's about us, in the sense that I can't join an African American student union.
But I think we should also definitely be very open and respectful to allies of color.
I think they could play a really important role in all this stuff.
Yeah, I do agree.
As far as the student unions go, I believe some of the laws may be set up to where you are required to be inclusive.
Like if someone wants to become a member, you are required by state law.
And we definitely do need something that is exclusive for us where we can talk about the issues we need to address and we can talk about them.
We do need to be open and we do need to have allies that will...
This isn't something that only white people see.
This is something that a lot of people see and realize.
It's just that no one's really felt comfortable speaking up and out about it.
And I think –
There's a video that surfaced several weeks ago of an Asian student down in Southern California was actually saying that they had a group that was complaining about racism and this Asian girl I've met black racists as well.
And that crowd just almost ate her alive.
We're definitely not the only ones who see this stuff.
We're not the only ones that this affects.
We should definitely be open and willing to talk to people of color and allies to address these things.
It's something that we're going to have to do.
We're going to have to have this open conversation.
In fact, many people of color are asking for this conversation to be had.
I think it's something that we need to have.
I think a lot of times when something isn't being talked about, it kind of becomes bigger than it really actually is in the minds of individuals.
And once you actually do start talking about it, people kind of become...
Once the conversation does occur, then they're kind of disarmed in a way.
They realize that it's not really as threatening as they imagined it being in their minds.
So, yeah, I definitely think that.
Well, very similar to the talking cure, as Freud talked about it, or confession, as is certainly a tradition in Christianity.
It's basically a notion that if you put something into words, you gain power over it.
And it's no longer as threatening as it could be.
I think that's very true.
I think just this idea of someone saying, why isn't there a student union?
That is a powerful, radical notion.
And once you say it, it's on the tip of everyone's tongue, but no one's willing to say it.
And once you say it, you kind of diffuse all that tension, and then you can be realistic about it and say, oh, well, let's build this.
Another thought real quick, just to go back to one other issue, is I think probably the way to do a white student union at a university where there are rules about exclusion, I think it's just basically to say anyone can be a member.
You could be of any race or nationality because you obviously have to follow rules.
But I think we should just have maybe above those, and you could say this is a safe space.
But above those types of organizations, we do need other private groups that do exclude people and that are for us and us alone.
But on campus, I think you could definitely just say, this is a safe space.
Whites can join if you want to be an ally of color or what have you.
We welcome you.
I think that's a totally reasonable position to take.
Let's talk a little bit about this idea.
that BuzzFeed put forward that it's all a big troll.
And we actually had a really good article at Radix about this called The Long Troll.
But I would take the position that And this is the position taken by the author, Abigail James, and I totally agree with everything she wrote.
I would take the position that maybe this is a troll to a large degree.
Maybe this is created by, you know, the TRS crowd or other kind of, you know, trollish people.
And even if that, let's say that's the case.
I think even that is fine, because it really is about just...
It's about getting it out there, and it's about maybe just starting something.
And maybe the beginning point isn't perfect.
Maybe we would much rather that people who are already leaders on campus say, yes, I am going to start this group.
But maybe they can't do that, because you have to think about it.
In order to do what we do, where we're open, we show our faces, we're open about our names, you have to be dedicated, but you also have to be a bit crazy, and you have to have some kind of personality.
Or, sadly, the other case is that people do this when they don't have anything to lose.
You know, it becomes a bit of a shit show where they're just, you know, they don't have anything to lose.
they have everything to gain by the media attacking them.
And so they, they kind of enjoy that.
Um, but you know, with people who do have something to lose, uh, who, who, who could do something else and, and succeed at that, you know, you, you have to, you have to have a little bit of the crazy gene to, to want to do this because it affects you.
It affects your personal life.
It affects your friendships.
It affects your family.
It certainly affects your job prospects.
So, Oh, yeah.
It's very difficult.
And I think one of the things we're looking at is, well, I'm thinking about two things right now.
And one is that revolutions aren't always as neat as we like to think they are.
And sometimes it's a long, you know, when we look back at history, to us it looks nice and neat and clean because of the way it's been written about.
But a lot of the times it's kind of the momentum is kind of stumbling over itself trying to figure out where it's going and how to go about getting there.
It's definitely something that some of these accounts We're definitely set up by people originally saying, you know what?
If they're going to do this, if they're going to take down this Facebook page, then I'm just going to set one up as a troll.
And you know what?
That's a great thing.
I think it's an amazing thing.
And one of the things that is important is staying power.
If these Facebook pages that are set up, many of which are being threatened by the colleges with litigation, Whether or not that threat is real, if they continue to put those pages up, eventually the schools are going to get tired of dealing with it and they're just going to let it happen.
And that's a small victory in and of itself, of having that staying power there.
I've actually had the opportunity of having many of the people who run these pages reach out to me and talk to me and are interested in what we're doing when we're relaunching in a couple months and interested in getting involved.
I've actually met many of these individuals who are running these things and it's very exciting that many of them are outside of any of the networks I've been in touch with.
They're brand new to this.
That's a very telling sign for me and a very telling sign for everyone listening right now that there are new people who are coming in as a result.
Some of them are just coming in just because they see a double standard there and want to do something about it.
But there really is, from my viewpoint, from my perspective and from what I see, There are lots and lots of college kids within our organization and even outside our organization who aren't there yet.
We do have people who share our views, young men and women who share our views that are on college campuses, and many of them have actually wanted to come out and start white students' unions, and I've actually slowed them down, as we were talking about a little bit earlier, because oftentimes young people jump into things not fully thinking about the repercussions of what they're doing, and we want to protect our members as well.
We don't want to stop what's happening.
We want to make sure that we don't set our people up for failure.
And so one of the things we've discussed with a lot of our people, because we do have, I think even here in the state of California, we may have about five members of my organization who are in school right now, who are in college, and probably a few more people I know who aren't in my organization here in California who are in college.
And that's just here in the state of California.
So I know there's this broad, vast...
Kind of sprinkled here and there throughout the country amount of college students who agree with our message, who want to do something about it, and are willing to do something about it.
But what we're looking to do is that if this is something we want to do, we want to make sure that we're completely organized across the board first, and that if we are going to...
Let individuals know, okay, now is the time to start white students' unions officially, like walking into your school and filing the paperwork or whatever is required to start that organization at the school, that we do it all at once.
Because there's kind of this safety in numbers when you do things.
And that would take a lot of pressure off a lot of the individuals who are there at the school.
The school papers and stuff will probably write about it.
Local news will write about it.
So there is very much a chance of their name still getting out there, but it will add a level, it will add a very high level of legitimacy to what they're doing if you have 30, 40, 50 schools opening up white students'unions at the same time.
So that's actually what we're looking to do and what our organization wants to help with in the I think it's very realistic within perhaps the next three to five years.
I'm kind of hedging there.
It may be sooner than that, but that's really what we're looking to do.
I have lots and lots of college students who I've talked with over the last three to six months.
This is something that It's very real, and yeah, there have been some trolls that got involved with it, and even some of those who I've talked to actually said that they had individuals who went to the school that then became admins afterwards.
Well, I think it might just start in this way, and maybe it's going to take 5 years or 10 years or 15 years, but maybe at some point it will be normalized to the degree that it's okay.
You know, there are tons of examples in history of things that people are outraged by and then they basically find normal after a little while.
So, you know, maybe this is the gay marriage of the next 10 years.
We just kind of have to put it out there and people will either laugh at it or they'll be shocked or they'll condemn it.
But eventually they're just going to have to accept it.
And I think this also gets to why I think this...
I would say that the stuff that I'm doing and other people is, you know, you could say that it's, what's great about it and what's in a way weak about it is that it's heady and idealistic.
So, you know, we're pursuing, you know, we want to change the world.
We want to create a new paradigm.
We're promoting the philosophy of identitarianism and so on.
And, you know, we look forward to the coming ethnostate and all this kind of stuff.
And I think that's great.
And I think all of that, this kind of idealism, is necessary.
Because if you don't have an end goal, if you don't have an ideal, you're just reacting to things.
You're a reactionary.
You don't like the left.
You don't like this.
You don't like that.
And you're just kind of reacting to what other people are doing.
And you're not doing what we need to be doing.
And so I think a heady idealism is necessary and it's good.
But what I like about the white student union phenomenon is that it's not so much heady idealism, it's a kind of, for lack of a better word, you're fucking with postmodern academia.
And you're basically turning their language and...
On themselves, on them, and you're throwing it back in their face.
And you're also, I think, when you're doing this, you're getting at a certain contradiction within the modern left, which is, on the one hand, we want total equality, there's no such thing as identity, that's a social construction, blah, blah, blah.
But on the other hand, the left is actually...
Very much dedicated to identity.
The left wants to create identities even where they might be dubious.
Like, they want to create Asian student alliances and things like that where, you know, the Japanese and the Chinese and Indians don't exactly get along.
But, you know, in some ways, the irony of it is that the left is really passionately dedicated to identity.
And it's actually the right, so-called, the conservatives, who react to the very notion of identity politics and claim that they don't see race.
And, you know, if you notice someone's race, that's offensive.
We're all just citizens or individual souls or whatever they imagine.
I think what's interesting about this phenomenon is that it's kind of like a left-wing phenomenon.
It's jumping on the bandwagon.
It's using the ideology and language and impulses of the postmodern academia.
But it's kind of twisting them, and it's using them for RNs, and it's revealing the inner contradictions.
So it is the long troll.
I think that's the best way of thinking about it, but it's great.
Some of the rhetoric I've seen on some of those pages has been, Phenomenal.
I've actually, I think, copy and pasted some of them as notes just because the talking points were so amazing from some of these individuals.
Yeah, that's the exact same.
This is definitely really a left-wing movement.
I've actually been studying up.
I'm reading a book right now on critical race theory and Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Freire, trying to understand some of these left-wing, what are typically considered left-wing ideas, what they're saying.
I've actually discovered some really excellent things from reading them.
Our best bet to reaching out to students, especially young students, millennials, is to use this language.
And this language, much of it to a T, really just gets at what we're trying to say.
And it's really great.
I've noticed that when you're having conversations, it's really great when they can say something that they think is going to be like this gotcha.
And then you agree with them and say, oh yeah, that's true.
And then you redirect that.
It kind of takes the wind out of their sails and they don't know where to go from that.
They're used to a specific reaction from a specific talking point.
But a lot of times, there are actually very legitimate and good points that the left makes, and that's one of the reasons why they're so convincing to so many people, because...
Now, the conclusions they might come to, we might feel are wrong because there's an absence of information in their premise, but some of the facts that they're showing are actually usually accurate.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think also the right is really intellectually impoverished.
And I think that is one fundamental reason why we do have a society based on left-wing norms and things like this.
So I think it's almost important.
You have to go there.
You have to kind of imbibe the left and understand what is driving society and what is driving society at high levels.
The right doesn't really have an answer because they've never really taken the time to understand this stuff.
They just have kind of a collection of principles, which are kind of, you know, which are basically like classical liberalism, plus maybe a little bit of vague Christianity thrown in for good measure.
But they they've.
The right doesn't have a critique.
The right doesn't have a philosophical system.
The right doesn't have a vanguard.
That's why I think there's this vacuum that the alt-right and effectively us are filling because the mainstream conservatives have never even thought in this direction.
They've just kind of reacted to the left in hopes that everyone will just go and not think too much and start a small business or something.
That seems to be their ideal.
I think that's great.
That's great to a certain extent, that idea of just being normal and being a normie and not being political and just living your life and having a family and all that kind of stuff.
I think that's great.
But all of these societies are changed really in the intellectual sphere.
And if you don't...
If you don't fight in that sphere, you're going to lose.
You can't just say, oh, we won't fight that battle.
We'll just go over here.
That's where you're being attacked.
You have to fight that battle.
And so we have to go to academia.
We have to write books.
We have to have a critique of society.
We have to have philosophy.
We have to have all this stuff.
So yeah, I think this white student union movement is part of what I'm talking about.
It's a huge troll of current academia, and it's pushing for something else.
And I really do believe, I think we'll look back on 2015 as the first stage when this idea started to be normalized.
Yeah, I have the exact same view.
And just going back to that normalization again, I continuously tell our guys and other people we're working with just to continue to agitate, agitate, agitate, agitate because that's what brings about normalization is just a continuous presence and not allowing our detractors to have safe spaces because that's really the only way they're...
Ideology can exist.
Their narrative can exist.
It's essentially in a vacuum.
We have to get in there and we have to work our way into every medium of communication and not allow those ideas to circulate unchallenged.
I'm a big fan of these troll campaigns.
I can attest to the fact that this is a very legitimate phenomenon, but it's a mixture of trolling and real-life people who really want to make a difference.
And that's kind of, I think we're going to eventually just lull our way into victory.
So...
I think we pretty much won.
To be honest, it's just a matter of going through the motions over the coming decades ahead.
I think we in a way have won because no one can really criticize the notion of a white student union.
They have to come up with some ulterior You know, thing.
So it's like, well, this is really about racism and violence, despite everything they just said.
You know, they have to come up with some...
You know, outside way of denouncing it.
But in a way, what they're doing is that they're revealing their own kind of authoritarian side, where it's like, we like this, therefore this is legitimate.
We don't like you, therefore you're illegitimate.
And so I think we, in a way, have one, because there's no way for people to critique this.
I think there was some...
I saw somewhere there were some basic questions that were asked, and it was like...
How much of a minority do whites have to be before we can have a white student union?
And just questions like that.
I think people are often like they're generals fighting the last war.
They're still living in a world where...
Whites are like 98% of Harvard or something.
And they're just a few blacks that, oh, we don't even know how they got in.
They're being oppressed and demeaned every step of the way.
People still have this vision of something from the 1950s or something.
And it's like, look, that is not what's happening.
Whites are, particularly Gentile whites, non-Jewish whites, are really effectively, they are underrepresented, tremendously unrepresented, uh, vis-a-vis their proportion of society.
Um, as Ron Unz famously showed in a paper everyone should check out.
Um, and, uh.
I saw that.
That was a great paper, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah, I shared that.
That was excellent.
Yeah.
And, you know, they are, you know, whites, you know, the really general term whites are underrepresented as a – The proportion of their population, they're underrepresented.
But Gentile whites, non-Jewish whites, are really underrepresented.
So at what point can we actually have a minority interest group?
And you just ask that question, and people, they freeze up.
It's like kryptonite.
And I think that's exactly what we need to be doing.
Yeah, and that's one of the talking points, actually, that we have considered and that I myself have considered.
I know that in the future I'm going to be asked these tough questions about what we're doing, and that's exactly one of the questions we'll be asking in return, is at what point?
Is it legitimate?
For us to ask for representation.
Do we have to wait until we're 30% of the population?
20%?
What's the percentage?
People freeze up.
They don't know how to answer that.
In fact, this is a very common thing.
When we say we want representation, a lot of times we're challenged by individuals who say, well, you know what?
There's already – look at Congress.
There's already white people.
There's always like some excuse or usually they point to the amount of white people.
I found that really interesting because right now I'm actually Working on a paper that I'm writing that actually discusses a concept that was brought about from a man who is actually considered the originator of critical race theory.
His name is Dr. Derek Bell, and I believe he was one of the first black professors at Harvard.
He wrote a paper in the 1980s discussing a phenomenon called interest convergence.
He got attacked by a lot of people for writing that paper, but in the paper, he put forward the conjecture that every time there was some type of civil rights advancement, it always coincided with what was in the interest of elite whites.
One of our points is that, yes, that has been the issue all along.
This is not simply as black and white as it appears.
This is actually what's happened over time has been a form of class warfare in which white elites have utilized people of color against middle class and lower class whites.
To further advance either their careers, whether it's in academia or if it's in government or if it's in finance or business.
So that is something that I really feel that hasn't – I haven't really seen it covered by too many people from that angle.
And I feel that that's in a language that many – Young students who have been exposed to critical race theory, it's a language that they understand, and I think that that's something that might be able to show a lot of these individuals how… It doesn't matter how many white people are in Congress.
They aren't putting forward what is best for Europeans.
As a collective, they're putting forward their own economic interests first.
I think that's what I've always said.
I don't like the term white advocate or something.
It almost makes it sound like if Hillary Clinton were elected, we'd be like, oh yeah, another white is in office, one of our own has made it, you know, kind of thing.
Or we think that all these congressmen are representing us, you know, this is great.
I think obviously there is this asymmetry where between...
Between racial advocates for other races and basically white congressmen who are clearly not doing what is in the best interest of white people.
And whenever you have someone like Donald Trump who seems to kind of...
Press these buttons and who might very well do what's in the interest of white people.
People just freak out and worry.
They start wringing their hands over the next Hitler and all this kind of stuff.
We just live in this really asymmetrical world.
But anyway, why don't we do this, Nathan?
Let's just put a bookmark in the conversation, and I'd certainly love for you to come back, because this is definitely the start of something, and hopefully there'll be a lot more to talk about in the coming years about this white student union phenomenon, which, again, I really hope is just now taking off and is going to be something that makes an impact in the coming decade.
Yeah, thanks.
I'm very excited that you had me on and I had a great time.
I think we were able to cover a lot of things that people will find pretty interesting and we'll be glad they have a little bit more insight now than they had before.
Yeah, definitely.
Let's do it again.
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