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Nov. 26, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live and we are, well, we are in New Hampshire.
And we're getting ready, as you can see, for Thanksgiving, which will be in two days.
Tomorrow is the eve of Thanksgiving.
It has been estimated that there'll be 81 million travelers on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, over.
So Ted, we've already traveled.
But I guess when we go back, we'll be in that number.
How many?
81 million travelers in a country of what, 340?
That's a lot of the country moving.
That's about 20% plus of the country moving.
That's a big number.
Around.
Now, a little breakdown, 31 million by air, 32.5 million by car.
To rest by feet.
I don't know how else.
Bicycle, motorcycles, feet.
That counts 62.
There's a lot of millions there that are walking to grandma's house.
That's probably a miss.
Oh, bus.
There's a bus number in there too that takes it down.
I've forgotten what it was.
We've got to see what's left.
People going by feet.
Maybe they don't count them.
The average price of gasoline is $30 a gallon.
Oh, boy, Trump would be.
He'd be really angry if that were the case.
$3 million a gallon.
No, it's $3 a gallon for those 32 million cars, which is, I think, less than last year, Ted.
$3 a gallon.
The price of the dinner is, as we said before, depends on what site you go to.
It ranges from 5% down to 5% up.
I suspect it's where you are, what the accounting, how much you eat.
If you have leftovers, which most people do, well, then it might be two dinners.
How do you do the price of the dinner?
I mean, suppose you have another day of turkey and stuffing, and if you're Italian pasta left over, then you feed the family twice with that.
Yeah.
Just want to get the economist all upset because they have a hard time.
Well, do they have the turkey?
They have a hard enough time anyway.
Pardon me?
Do they have the price of turkey?
Price of turkey is also debatable.
Some up, some down.
There was a shortage of turkeys, having nothing to do with the economy.
And I think what happened with the turkeys is like what's happening.
I'm going to describe in a little while with the tariffs.
A lot of the stores didn't build in that.
In other words, they took a hit.
They didn't try to get the same profit margin they had last year.
A lot of the tariff situation has turned out that way.
In fact, the majority of it, which we're going to explain to you in a very interesting report we have for later on how the tariffs are working.
There's going to be a couple of pre-Thanksgiving storms, mostly on the West Coast.
But as we get closer to Thanksgiving, they're going to start to move to the middle of the country.
And the worst days are going to be Black Friday after when people are returning.
It's going to affect 40 states.
Chicago seems to be headed for the work, getting the worst of it right now, which will be five to eight inches of snow.
But it's also going to affect Detroit and Minneapolis and Indianapolis.
Going to come over toward the northeast, but I think it's not going to be as strong by then.
They they describe it as three different storms two, one before, one during and one over the weekend, and the one over the weekend will be the, the worst, the worst, the worst of them.
Um, and I can't um, I can tell you, with all of the traveling that's going on, this is going to be a real real, a real real problem.
Right uh Ted, we did tell our people before, and I know they're probably hanging on every word, what about that coach that went missing?
Right, a very very uh, surprising and disturbing uh uh development about him.
Right right, he is wanted for.
Well, let me get this right.
So this is breaking.
Last night we were very, very careful about it Ted had an instinct, I have to tell you.
Ted had an instinct that I didn't want him to express.
Uh, and this sort of starts to make the story uh, the football moving in the direction of Ted's instinct.
The football coach is now wanted for charges of possessing child sexual abuse material and using a computer to solicit a minor.
Police say.
Travis Turner, 46 years old, is wanted on warrants obtained monday for five counts of each charge, adding that additional charges are pending as an investigation continues.
They did not share details about what prompted the charges.
Turner has been missing since thursday, when State Police special agents from the Bureau OF Criminal Investigation Office were sent to his home not to arrest him but to talk to him as part of an investigation.
As officers traveled there, they were notified that he was gone.
The subsequent search nearby has included drones, dogs and rescue teams.
well i guess that starts to add um a very disturbing uh a very disturbing part to this doesn't it yes uh child pornography he runs away Winning record, nothing else going on in his life, right?
Did he know he was going to be arrested for it?
Yeah, it could be right right now.
Now you have to start taking all of these into consideration as um, as as strong possibilities.
Um, now here, here's what um, here's what I was going to tell you about uh, tariffs.
So you, you know that, this whole situation with tariffs, I want to see if I have a board here in case I need it.
Ted, would you get that there if you don't mind?
Uh, couple minutes, we have a guest.
The tariffs have become a real surprise.
You remember?
You remember that um, there's a whole group of economists, genius economists, all kinds of prizes, Nobel Prizes, Toilet Bowl Prizes, all kinds of things.
And uh, I have to say, with due deference to just about the only um you know non uh non no, I shouldn't say that one of the better newspapers in America, with all deference to the WALL Street Journal they are, they are maniacal on the question of tariffs.
There's nothing good about him.
It's terrible what he's doing to us.
And um, and the the the, the pres, the president, should be uh, drawn and quartered for it.
Well, it turns out.
It turns out that um Volkswagen, that the the the, the tremendous hits that the automotive companies uh were going to take uh in terms of, in terms of uh being destroyed and the American uh consumer was going to have to pay enormous amounts of money.
From liberation day on um, what is mainly happening is president Trump's tariff regimen, according to Matthew Lynn of Commonplace, is starting to significantly reduce profits, but they were supposed to significantly raise prices, uh-uh.
The companies, not to want to freeze themselves out of the very lucrative American market, have decided to eat the tariff, so it becomes uh revenue to the United States.
You go back to liberation day.
I mean uh, they were ready to, they were ready to um to draw and corner Trump, and I think the elections had something to do with this, where the tariffs were blamed for the high prices and, by the way, the items with the high tariffs actually have gone down a little many of them in price.
So somebody's not being fair about this.
And are they a tax or not?
Well uh, Lynn concludes that they are a tax.
I I have a different view of it, which is not worth explaining.
It's really just a legal distinction between a tax uh, which is a purely revenue revenue device and a tariff which is a trade um uh, trade control price.
Uh uh, a weapon.
It's something that that allows us to have fair, fair trade.
We put a tariff on uh because uh this, this country, is being very unfair to us and they're putting a tariff on us.
You could put a tariff on also if you're protecting uh your, your industries.
Generally, tariffs have not been thought of as let's put them on.
Put them on because we need money.
They're put on for other economic, social and national security purposes.
Um, the average tariff right now in the United States as we speak, is 18.6 percent now.
That's the highest tariff since 1933.
Uh, according to YALE, their their measure of tariffs, but it isn't wet on, but it's still the highest.
So we should be seeing all these terrible effects, and we're not.
Um inflation, which we, we was were told was going to go to five percent because of Trump's tariffs by uh, the the chief of the NEW YORK FED said it was going to be four percent.
Uh, the FED governor, Christopher Waller, said it would be five percent.
It's 2.7 percent, half in one case, of what they, of what they um, and if you go to the Harvard Business School tariff thicker, it's a pass-through rate of about 20 percent.
That means that the people that are being charged the high tariffs are eating 80 percent of the tariff.
They're not putting it into the price of the Toyota or the car, they're only putting 20 percent of the increase into it as an average.
There are exceptions, some exceptions off the charts, some exceptions enormously good buys, and there are uh pockets of pain, Like automotives, it's not so much the cars, but the parts and the components are being hit a little hard, harder.
But you have, according to Lynn, three dynamics at play here.
First, the profit margins were grotesquely high, he says.
Some of the profit margins were up to 200% or more, 200% or more profit margin.
So there's plenty of room to go down to 100% profit margin and eat the tariff and not put it on the car so that you don't buy Toyota.
And that's what they're doing.
What's happening to the rest of the money?
It's going into the U.S. Treasury.
The profits on microchips are the same thing.
So automobile manufacturers have basically eaten the cost of these tariffs.
So that if we want to do an economic analysis of it, while it's going on, I mean, we're not going to know for sure.
We're not going to know for sure.
But even China, thinking in terms of long-term market, has not written up what it's selling and is eating the cost again because they were making massive, huge profits.
You would think the left-wing anti-business people would say, wow, Trump is soaking up those profits and getting them returned to the people.
So the net is around 300, 300 billion more.
That's the net when you take out the extra charge to our economy, take that out, and then what's left?
If we got that to 500 or 600 billion, we can end all corporate tax in the United States.
And wouldn't that be great?
Now we have with us Corinne Clifford, who's at the White House, and is going to bring us up to date on what's going on at the White House.
Good evening, Mayor.
How are you, Corinne?
I'm reporting to you live from the White House.
It was so busy today, and it's actually beginning to feel a lot like Christmas.
The Christmas tree is here.
It's not decorated yet.
As you know, President Trump and our first lady just took off to Mar-a-Lago, where I'm sure you're going to join them for Thanksgiving.
It's going to be incredible weather in Florida.
I just got stuck in a rainstorm.
It feels like it's about to snow in Washington, D.C.
And it's just exciting.
It's exciting because, you know, today the turkeys got pardoned, which is a very long tradition.
And of course, you know, president.
Right?
Because only Democrats get pardoned.
Well, I got pardoned, I guess, so I shouldn't complain, right?
I shouldn't complain.
Oh, wow.
Look at a size of that turkey.
Is that eating turkey?
There were two huge turkeys today, and they actually came into the press briefing room and they were gobbling Carolyn Levette, the press secretary.
Her son almost touched one.
I was kind of worried because I think turkeys are a little bit aggressive, but they got to stay at the Willard Hotel last night.
Who?
The turkeys?
The turkeys got to stay at the Willard Hotel.
That was my headquarters for the turkeys.
Testing the election.
Yeah, that's the will.
There's their crest.
And then President Trump was just saying the most hilarious stuff today at the White House.
It was super interesting to listen to him.
He was saying that last year, the official pardons for the turkey were given by the Autopen.
So he's going to officially pardon them this year and make up for all of the fake pardons that they got under the Biden regime.
So I was laughing about that.
It was just a very benevolent, jovial time at the White House.
But of course, the White House press corps was so aggressive.
And then it started raining on us.
And you know, I'm concerned.
They blame him for the rain, right?
Oh, yeah, of course.
And then I'm standing on the opposite side of President Trump when he is about to board Marine One to go to Air Force One.
And of course, the second he comes near me, all the mainstream media starts pushing me, shoving me.
And, you know, I'm a tiny girl.
It was a little intimidating, but I had my umbrella this time.
And so I made sure they knew if they got too close to me, I could push them off me because, you know, CNN and mainstream media just get so aggressive with me anytime I get anywhere near President Trump.
Do they know, do they know, do they sort of categorize you with regard to political view?
Oh my gosh, they push me around.
They tell me I'm worthless.
They say that they have the right to stand in front of me.
They hit me with their cameras.
They push me around a little too much.
But, you know, the White House Press Corps, the Wranglers, they call them the Wranglers, the people that work for Carolyn Levette.
You know, they're pretty protective of me.
Sometimes some cameramen watch over me.
I'm trying to make more friends with them.
So they'll film me because I don't have my own cameraman, but they are very aggressive, especially CNN.
They're far too aggressive.
And you know, you know, Mayor.
Question, question.
So to, of course, we've seen a lot.
We've heard from the president today on the what was a 28-point peace plan.
Now we're hearing from the president himself on True Social that the plan may no longer be 28 points.
What is the latest that you're hearing?
The plan between Ukraine and Russia is so critical and key.
It has to happen, ASAP.
None of us really know the truth, except that, you know, Wickoff is going to go fly over there.
The bottom line is that, you know, Mayor, you know, this is so important.
We have to get the European countries to stop buying oil from Russia.
We have to get Zelensky to agree to every point of the peace deal that Putin will agree to.
I mean, you know more than anyone, Mayor, how critical and key this is.
This could start World War III at any second if it's not done properly.
It is true.
And if we make the wrong deal, it'll start World War III a couple of years from now, like World War II starter.
But what are you going to do for Thanksgiving?
You're not going to be at the White House, I hope.
I am going to be in Washington, D.C. by myself.
I wish that I was going to be with you and Ted at Mar-a-Lago in perfect weather.
We're going to be in New Hampshire.
Oh, I thought you guys would be in Florida.
Well, I wish I was going to be in Palm Beach County, Florida.
I like to be in D.C. when no one else is here because listen, I'm worried about Japan.
I'm worried about China trying to attack Japan.
What do you have that?
We're going to have Gordon Chang on shortly right after you.
And stay tuned.
Well, thank you, Corinne.
Nobody would know better than Gordon.
Well, thank you, Corinne.
Thank you, Corinne.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Enjoy it, okay?
God bless you.
All right, God bless you too.
So that's a great lead-in to China.
And we're going to have Gordon Chang on about 15, in about 15 minutes, but what she's talking about is actually correct.
China and things have really gotten hot between China and Japan.
The new president of Japan is everything she was cracked up to be and more.
That's Sine Takahichi.
And Sinei is the first female, the first female prime minister of Japan.
She's a right-winger.
She's a conservative.
And she is fed up with China, pushing them around, taking islands from them, flying over their country, treating them like, you know, they're superior to Japan.
Now, realize China is a much bigger country.
As a result, it's a much richer country.
I don't know about per capita, but Japan is like one of the four or five after the United States and China, one of the four or five great powers in the world.
This is not a China little country.
It could easily have, without any difficulty other than a little money, a lot of money, and a change in attitude, one of the strongest militaries in the world.
The Chinese are genetically some of the greatest warriors on the face of the earth, considerably stronger over thousands of years than the Chinese, and frightened the living daylights out of the Chinese.
Now, you see Jinming getting all perturbed about the Japanese.
What have I been telling you for five, six years about the Japanese?
The Chinese, I will not use the expression in their pants, but you arm the Japanese and the Chinese will go nut, which is what they should do.
The red Chinese should go nuts.
If Japan is fully armed, it will be the equivalent of the Israel of Asia.
I'm not going to say they could do it alone because they got four or five years to really build up to where they should be.
But if we had been building up Japan the way we should have from the time I first recommended it, which was 12 years ago, you know, I wanted to be Secretary of State, but I didn't get the job.
And one of my prime thoughts in readjusting with China was Japan.
If Japan were fully armed the way they could be, they're about a third of what they could be.
At a third, they're a force.
At 100%, it is possible, and I would want to check this again with military experts.
And I'm going to tell you the truth.
I get two answers here.
I would say, if Japan were reasonably armed, like a country that wasn't constitutionally pacifist, could they, along with what Taiwan has done, and some others that would help, like the Philippines, and with American support, but without American troops, could they ward off China?
Yes, no.
Depends on who you talk to.
And also, in fairness, it depends on how armed they are, what they're armed for.
What kind of an attack is it?
Is it going to be an amphibious landing, or is it going to be an aerial attack first, and then an amphibious landing?
A lot of it has to do with variables that wargame it.
But there is certainly no doubt that an armed Japan takes a tremendous amount of weight off us.
We're still going to be necessary, but to what degree and to how much depends on what kind of allies do we have.
As we've seen in Middle East, I mean, for years, we've been talking about taking out the Iran nuclear capacity.
It sure was made a lot easier by having the country that Nick Fuentes hates, Israel, do the job for us.
And of course, we did a magnificent job, but we had the benefit of a neutered Iranian air defense.
Who neutered it?
Is Japan capable of doing that to China?
Yes.
Not now.
You probably armed them.
You're damn right they are.
Xi Jinming knows everything that I'm saying better than I do.
And they are now raising holy hell about Japan doing this.
And all official exchanges between Hong Kong and Japan should respect.
This is from the Chinese owned and operated press, you know, like ours, like the New York Times and the used to be, they had just, you know, government newspapers.
They put out the government view.
Now basically, you can assume 80% of the newspapers you pick up are just as much a creature of the government as the China Post and the different Chinese rags.
This is one of them that I picked up today.
And this one is published in Hong Kong, not Shanghai, but it's all over China.
This is slightly more balanced, slightly, slightly more balanced.
All official exchanges between Hong Kong and Japan should respect the dignity of the Chinese nation and align with the interest of Hong Congress.
Chief Executive John Lee Kuchu has said, as he questioned the effectiveness of such interreactions amid a great big diplomatic dispute between Beijing and Tokyo.
And the administration had called off several exchanges with the Japanese Consulate General talks about escalating tensions between Beijing and Tokyo after the new prime minister, Takahichi, suggested that our country might consider military action if an attempt were made on Taiwan.
Now, this gets them all perturbed.
Taiwan is critical to the defense of Japan.
They're right in the same strait.
The islands between Japan and Taiwan are disputed between China and Japan.
If China got Taiwan, the next step would be to take Japan.
And you don't think Japan is going to fight?
And what do you think you're going to do?
Z, you're going to back them down.
You also know that they may be smaller, but they're smarter.
You look at history, the confrontations between China and Japan, that little island has out-foxed you almost every time.
It's the Britain of Asia, the Great Britain of Asia.
It's the little island that can control the big continent.
And you get someone like this woman, Abe's student.
You've got a real big problem, my friend.
The Japanese are warning their people in Hong Kong to be careful.
The Chinese have warned their citizens from going to Japan.
There's a travel alert.
Now, you also should know there's a great deal of commerce.
I mean, Japan is a great mercantile country, has been, you know, for a long time.
And China is also a mercantile country when they weren't controlled by communists.
And despite the fact that they don't trust each other, they have always done a massive amount of business with each other.
And they do now.
And they pretty much have cut off discussions.
There are some backdoor discussions going on.
And Z went out of his way to call Trump.
And in the conversation, Trump stayed away from Taiwan, steered it away from Taiwan, which is what Z wanted to talk about.
And he wanted to enlist Z in helping to end the dispute in Ukraine, I assume, by putting pressure on his ally, Putin.
Now, I do think there's an area where our interests do match up with Red China.
I think although Red China was supportive of the attempt to annex Ukraine and financially help Russia and continues to financially help, not as much.
You got to learn about China for sure.
They don't like to back losers, and they're brutal about it.
And in the big picture, negotiating over 20% of Ukraine, Putin is a loser in their eyes.
Not maybe in the eyes of the rest of the world, which also have to be considered.
So I think Takahichi's remark that Japan might come to the aid of Taiwan shakes the living daylights out of China.
Now, I can't believe that they are naive enough not to have thought that this was building now for 10 years with all of the things that Abe has said and Trump's relationship with Abe.
There was a tailing off of that under the Chinese-sponsored American President Biden.
And maybe they thought that had become permanent, that he had convinced Japan to that he had convinced Japan to lay off China.
But I don't think they have enough money to bribe Japan.
They had enough money to bribe Biden, but not enough to bribe Japan.
Z initiated the call to Trump, everyone thinks, because of the tensions with Tokyo.
And they're trying to make sure that the U.S. remains supportive of the one China policy, which is extraordinarily ambiguous.
We agree there should be one China, but we don't agree how you would bring that about.
And we don't necessarily agree that Taiwan makes it two Chinas.
And we don't necessarily say we're going to defend China, but we suggest we would be very, very upset if it happened.
So it's all extremely ambiguous, which is terrible in foreign relations.
If we learned anything from the First World War, it's when positions aren't clearly defined.
The best way a world war can break out.
But not that anybody ever bothers to consult history.
So we're going to take a short break.
And when we come back, we should be pretty close to being able to get Gordon.
Gordon's on at 8:45, Jet.
Well, we'll 8:40.
8:40.
Okay.
So we'll take a short break right now and we'll be right back.
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Well, this is Giuliani.
I'm back with you.
We're going to be joined by Gordon Chang in a moment.
But the state of the agreements between the United States and China are ambiguous, but there are some clear lines.
The U.S. generally supports the idea of one China, but catch this.
It does not support any form of a military violent takeover of Taiwan.
In other words, I guess you could say it would support if Taiwan wanted to join China, which is highly unlikely because China has gotten worse and worse and worse and worse since they originally separated as part of the nationalist Chinese.
So let's see what someone who knows a lot more about this than almost anyone has to say about it.
And that's Gordon Chang, who I would say is the preeminent expert on Chinese relationships.
He probably wouldn't say the preeminent and the best one, but I would.
He certainly will admit that he's one of the best.
Now, Gordon, this is very, very interesting.
I've always wanted Japan to flex its muscles because I always thought China would, I can't say it the way I'd like to say it if I was with you alone, would become very upset if that happened.
Well, it looks like they've gone through the roof.
And all she said is the obvious, if they attack Taiwan, it could become a security issue for Japan.
They may have to take military action.
Yes.
On November 7th, Prime Minister Takeichi said, and this was in response to a question from an opposition lawmaker in the Diet, the parliament.
Prime Minister Takeichi said that if China invaded Taiwan, this would be a security, a survival-threatening situation for Taiwan.
That refers to language in the 2015 national security law of Japan, and that would allow her to mobilize the self-defense forces.
In other words, Japan's military.
This is obvious because Taiwan and Japan are actually part of the same archipelago.
And there is actually a Japanese island that is south of Taipei and within 59 nautical miles of the main island of Taiwan.
So they are an integrated archipelago.
And obviously, this would affect Japan.
So the Chinese, though, went on a bender.
And right now, Prime Minister Takeichi has got the better of the dispute.
Now, why are they so surprised?
Isn't it?
I mean, when she said that, it seemed that China wouldn't like it, but China has to know that, right?
Yes, and that's a great question, because that really pulls into the issue of what's happening inside of the Communist Party right now.
I think there's a lot of turmoil, and Xi Jinping has been challenged by his colleagues.
And essentially, what's happening is that Xi is trying to make sure that his position is solidified.
That means he needs a confrontation because in a confrontation, really nobody could challenge him.
And so I think that Xi Jinping decided that he was going to make this much bigger than it should have been.
But right now, Xi Jinping has a problem because Prime Minister Takeichi, unlike her predecessors, is really tough and she's not going to back down.
It sure seems that way.
I mean, it seems like she goes even one further than her mentor, Abe.
Yes.
Well, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, the longest-serving Japanese prime minister, and probably you knew him, he certainly was.
The dominant figure in Japanese politics, and he mentored a number of conservative lawmakers, including Prime Minister Takeichi.
But she has been called the Thatcher of Japan.
And she was called that because she's the first female Japanese prime minister.
But she really deserves the title because she is the Iron Lady.
She is as tough as Thatcher ever was.
And she's right now in a difficult position, but she is giving the Chinese as good as she gets.
And right now, Xi Jinping doesn't know what to do.
Well, now, what's the likely outcome of this?
I mean, have they cut off trade completely?
They do a lot of business together despite the tremendous tension.
Yes, the Chinese have done a number of things.
So, for instance, they've discouraged Chinese tourists from going to Japan.
They've cut the number of flights between China and Japan, and they have barred the importation of Japanese seafood into China.
The Japanese have taken some countermeasures of their own, but the issue is really ultimately whether they can get the prime minister to retract her words.
And she's made it very clear that she's not going to.
And I think that the Chinese are going to fail in that regard.
And eventually the Chinese are going to have to huff and puff, but they're going to have to slink away.
Their only other alternative is to invade.
And I don't think that they're prepared to do that right now.
No, I doubt it.
And how much, there's an awful lot of dispute about how solidly Xi Jinming is sitting on the throne.
Yeah.
A lot of changes, like nine generals were removed.
And hard to say what that all means.
That's a great question, too.
And the point is that we know less about China than we did a couple of years ago because Xi Jinping has made the regime more opaque.
But there are certain things that we can see.
And one of them was that last month, the Ministry of Defense announced the removal of nine senior generals and admirals.
And almost all or all of them were Xi Jinping's supporters.
None of them were Xi Jinping's adversaries.
And that included General Hu Wei Dong, Xi Jinping's hatchet man in the military, his most important supporter in uniform.
He got cut.
And that means that Xi Jinping has lost some influence and maybe even control over the Chinese military.
And that shows you what turmoil there is in the Chinese capital right now.
And the economy?
The economy is not going at the 4.8% pace that they claim for the third quarter.
I think it's about zero.
Clearly, the country is in a deflationary spiral.
Deflationary spiral is inconsistent with robust growth.
The economy is in so much trouble, Mr. Mayor.
Well, will this affect this dispute with Japan?
I can't imagine it's going to help their economy.
No, it's not going to help their economy.
But Xi Jinping, I think, is fighting because the economy is so bad.
He needs to distract senior leaders from the mistakes he's made with the economy and with other obvious important decisions that he's made.
So I think the economy is one of the factors that is fueling Xi Jinping's fight with Japan right now.
What are the chances that we would have a change in China?
How remote is that?
I wish I could tell you.
It's possible.
I think Xi Jinping, other people don't want to remove him.
And the reason is that even though they're willing to clip his wings and take away some of his influence, they do not want to show the world the Communist Party is in this distress.
So they're going to keep him on.
And he's either going to be powerful or he's going to be a figurehead.
But I don't think he's going to go.
But I don't think he's going to get a fourth term as general secretary of the Communist Party.
Two terms was the normal.
He took a third.
That's when his problems began because that created a lot of opposition to him.
Fascinating.
And so fourth is, I think, off the table.
When is that?
That would be, let me see, 2027, 27.
Oh, okay.
Well, it's coming up.
Well, thank you, Gordon.
Always, always remarkable.
Your knowledge and your insight on China is irreplaceable.
Thank you.
Well, thank you so much, Mr. Mayor.
I really appreciate the opportunity to talk to you and happy Thanksgiving.
To you too.
I got to ask one more question.
Sure.
Where can regular people go?
People that are listening to us and listening to you on where should they go to get information about China?
Because so much of it is, well, I mean, it's not in many ways, so much of it is played with, but then there's so little available also.
Right.
As I said, I know less about China than I did two years ago.
What I have to do is I try to read everything.
I go to X where there's a lot of information, but also mainstream media, non-mainstream media, talk to my friends, listen to rumors, and try to figure out what makes sense and what doesn't.
And I have to say, I'm doing a lot more speculating than I've done in the past and a lot more speculating than I'd like to, just because the regime is more opaque than it's been in a very long time.
Well, it's interesting.
You do a great job and it's a tremendous thing.
We need it very badly.
Again, happy Thanksgiving, Gordon, and to the family, too.
Thank you so much.
Well, as a remarkable asset for the United States, and as he pointed out, but not in his own behalf, he becomes an even more important asset given how closed China has become.
China, for a period of time, it's always been pretty evil and pretty horrible and killing people and genocides and that sort of thing.
But there was a period of time when they were much more open.
Now, that isn't really open.
Like I went to China in 2007 or 2006, 2009, in that period of time.
And they searched all my bags and they tried to put a spy in with us.
But it was, I mean, but you could get around and you could find out what was happening.
It's much, much more, much tighter now, much, much tighter.
And that isn't good.
I mean, a lot of people thought it was much tighter because he was planning.
I think a lot of people thought he was going to attack Taiwan even before now.
But I also think that it has been one of the things that has come out of the Ukraine situation, which is all bad, really, except for this.
I think it slowed China down.
I think China saw the difficulties that Putin had with a country like Ukraine, which, well, I guess since 2014 has been trying to get ready for war, but up until 2014, really, I don't think thought Russia was going to attack them.
And Taiwan, I would suspect, has to be better prepared than Ukraine was.
I mean, they've been under the gun for 40 years and made very conscious decision that they're going to fight China to the death.
That's not going to be easy.
Would a massive air attack do it?
The air defenses there are pretty darn good.
I don't know how much we've given them.
I can't imagine they're not as well prepared as Israel was.
Of course, China is a much greater adversary than any of the Arab countries.
But China has never been a great military power.
The Chinese have been a sporadic military power.
And an air attack on a small island by a big country seems obviously would succeed.
But depending on the sophistication of Taiwan's defenses, don't count on it.
I mean, remember, this country, Taiwan, has become, it's a bit of, it's sort of like the Israel of Asia.
Out of nowhere, the nationalists, as well as the indigenous population of Taiwan, that does not consider itself Chinese.
You've got to realize that.
If they want to go back, you know, and to the indigenous population like Ken Burns does, well, then this is a Chinese colonization.
They were never a part of China.
And when they were, it was always forced.
They do not consider themselves a part of China.
They do not consider themselves ethnically Chinese.
The ethnic Chinese are the refugees who came there in 48 and 49 when Mount Sedung defeated Chiang Kai-shek and the nationalist army retreated to, I think it was called Formosa then, or a lot of it was called Formosa.
And for a while, they became dictators.
The Chinese refugees became dictators over the indigenous or original population.
And it took at least a generation to become a democracy.
They fought very hard to become a democracy.
And now they are a democracy like Israel and a strong democracy and increasingly strong military power that from the day they started recognized that China could try to invade them or would try to invade them.
And they've been threatened with it probably 50,000 times.
Not only that, China will fly over them, strafe them, do all kinds of things.
Well, that's really, in a way, a bit stupid, because all that does is antagonize them more.
A long time ago, and I'll get the date of this trip and the name of this person, because I talk about it enough that I should reconstruct it better.
It's in my book and the people that were there with me are all available.
But I was in China for a totally non-governmental business thing.
I had at the time a security company in Japan as part of my overall international security company, which I would visit both for that reason and some other business reasons, meaning Japan, Tokyo, three times or four times a year.
And I was invited by theoretically private people in the Chinese government in China.
But at that level of business, nobody's free of the Communist Party.
They may not want to be, but they're not.
And I knew that.
So they invited me because they wanted to talk about doing security in China, which I wasn't sure I wanted to do, but I thought it would be worth talking about it.
Also, I hadn't been to China.
I wanted to, I thought I'd get a good bird's eye view of it.
And maybe I had been there once before.
I can't remember if this was my first trip, my second trip.
I think it was my first trip.
Pretty sure.
Okay.
So I met with and had a long conversation with the head of the Communist Party in Beijing.
So you got to understand the really key people are not the people who are the president of the company, the admiral of the ship, like Hunt for the Red October, the principal of the school, the CEO of the company.
The important person in every one of those organizations is the Chinese Communist Party representative, like the representative of the similarly communist teachers' union.
The representative of the teachers' union in the school is considerably more powerful than the principal.
This is about New York, of course, but similar corrupt cities like New York.
The principal is less powerful.
The parents are nothing, because the teachers' union follows the rule that the Democrats and the communists follow: that for purposes of education, the children are the property of the state and the parents should say nothing about it.
Well, the Democrats now follow that on most things, like change of gender.
They become property of the state as Marx dictated, as quickly as they can get them into early education, which is why I am very, very cynical about early education.
I started off very much in favor of it until I realized it was just an earlier opportunity to brainwash.
So we had a very long conversation, myself and the head of the Communist Party in Beijing, cordial, friendly.
I don't remember what we discussed really, politics and business, right?
And we weren't really quite at the end.
We were sort of, I think this was, it was, we were going to be there two hours.
This is about the halfway point.
And we, of course, had tea and whatever else.
And my partner, Mike Hess, was with me.
I think John Huvain, the head of my security company, I believe, was with me.
I think it was after Bernie had left.
So we get to Taiwan.
And maybe we were at the conclusion because he said to me, or at least it was translated this way: he said, Mayor, you're very friendly and very close to President Bush.
We know that.
You campaigned very, very hard for him.
He has said very nice things about you.
He repeated some of the things they picked up from the newspapers that he had said about me, not just with regard to September 11, but about me in general.
And he said, I wish you would go back to the president and tell him that we could have a much closer relationship if he would understand our position on Taiwan and support our taking, you know, support completing the one China policy and taking Taiwan.
And he went on and on and on, telling me the value that that would be and why Taiwan would be so much better for Taiwan.
And when I got a chance to talk, I said, well, and I thought I'd be cute.
And I said, you know, Mr. Chairman, a lot of this would be made a lot easier, not by President Bush, but by you.
By you, I mean China.
The Taiwanese, however they're constituted now, you know, were a dictatorship like you are for a while.
Maybe not as strict, but they were.
And they fought very hard to become a democracy on their island.
And their island is, you know, millions of people.
It's not like two people.
So people who fight for democracy like that, they don't want to give it up.
Now, you didn't do yourself a lot of good with Hong Kong.
You made a deal with Hong Kong, right?
The English gave it back to you.
And you said Hong Kong could be autonomous, semi-autonomous, largely autonomous.
They didn't have to follow the socialist and communist economic system.
They could have their own little system within China, which many, many people who take an optimistic view of everything thought was going to lead to China becoming democratic and a prime example of a strong defender of human rights.
And it's just gotten worse and worse and worse.
And things in Hong Kong have fallen apart.
At least that's our perception.
And more importantly, the perception of the people in Taiwan.
So why would they join you if their lives are going to become much, much worse?
And they're going to go back to being a dictatorship.
Why don't you present them a picture that's a lot more, that's a lot more enticing, like a very, very big country that could be very rich and very powerful, moving toward what a lot of people thought you were moving toward, moving toward a constitutional democracy of some kind with very, very strong guarantees for human rights.
So it was shorter than I just, I think it was shorter than I just described to Ted.
And it was being translated simultaneously.
And in the course of it, I could see him agreeing with me and smiling.
And I got to tell you, there was a second in which I thought I was, you know, wow, I'm going to go back and tell them.
I convinced this guy, at least on the surface, that's at least a step.
And then I was getting ready for him to say something after I stopped.
And either Mike or John, my two colleagues leaned over and said, the translator wants to tell you something.
I said, excuse me for a moment.
I turned to the translator who was from the work for the American embassy.
He said, Mr. Mayor, I know you look a little confused by his smiling, but his translator did not translate it correctly.
It's not going to even go on the record correctly.
It sounds like you told him you would bring the issue to President Bush.
You thought that there was a way to persuade.
He changed the meaning completely of what you said.
That's why he's smiling.
I said, well, well, then let's correct it.
You remember what I said?
He said, yeah, I have it written down here.
Would you read it to him in proper Chinese?
He said, you sure?
That's how I called them.
I said, you heard this?
And they said, yeah.
They said, sure, yeah.
I mean, we're just simple Americans, right?
We can say what we think.
Unless Biden is president.
We can say what we think.
So He told them pretty much what I said that you guys, you guys frightened out of Taiwan because you're a dictatorship.
Maybe if you became a democracy, they'd feel differently.
Somewhere along the way, he got what I said.
Faith changed, didn't lose his temper, didn't become unprofessional.
Stood up.
I stood up.
He shook my hand and said, Mayor Giuliani, it's been a great pleasure.
Something like that meeting with you.
We have great respect for what you did in New York.
We'd love sometime to have you explain that to us.
And your handling of 9-11.
You're a special person in China.
But I think our meeting has now ended.
Thank you.
We walked out and the head of my security said, Mayor, we are on our own.
They ain't going to help us with nothing now.
And we don't even know how to get to the airport.
So that was mid first decade of the century around there, maybe a little later than that, maybe 2009 or something like that.
No, no, Bush was still president, 2006, 2007.
So that's China.
And I have a very, very clear, very precise, and not going to change view of communism.
I get it.
I understand it.
I've dealt with it both academically and in government and in business.
And it's brutal.
It's vicious.
It's atheistic.
It has no regard for human life.
The goal of the Communist Party supersedes human life by a lot, which is why Putin just throws human beings at.
And so do the Chinese.
Like in Korea, they did that.
Bodies, bodies, bodies.
You kind of get it with the Chinese.
They're not part of a humanistic tradition, like we are, going back to the Jews and the Greeks, where the value of human life is paramount.
And then their traditions as Chinese, which was a pretty well-defined and pretty beautiful culture, were completely destroyed by communism.
The cultural revolution, although it did a lot of other things, also denotes Marx and Engels' view that you have to destroy the culture of a country in order to make it communist.
They can't go back to their Russian traditions or their Chinese traditions or their American traditions, which is what they're trying to do to America, right?
You've got to get rid of their heroes, their literature, you've got to demean them, got to humiliate them, like the Obama apology tour, which he probably learned in communist school when he was no doubt trained in Marxism.
So there can be a very interesting transition going on right now with Z less power.
That can be good and bad.
Pressured now by Japan.
I'm going to depend to a large extent on us and What we have to say about Japan's rearming and how much we help them.
And I did forget to ask Gordon, and we'll do it next time, or maybe I'll call him and get the answer: what is the state of the Japanese military now?
And I can tell you it's much stronger than you think.
There is a law in Japan that you can't notice how he mentioned they would consider it a defensive war if they hit Taiwan because it would be part of the same archipelago that Japan has always claimed.
So they would consider that an attack on them, or so close to an attack on them, that it would then allow them under their constitution to go to war.
That was a very, very important clarification that Takahichi made.
Very important and very frightening to the Chinese, because for a long time they had a population in Japan that was traumatized by the Second World War and the atomic attacks and the defeat, which they never expected.
But it's very different.
And for this, we can thank some people that go way back.
We can thank General Douglas R. MacArthur for this.
Douglas R. MacArthur was probably the greatest occupier, certainly in the history of America, maybe the history of the world.
I mean, Caesar was pretty damn good at making people Roman citizens and therefore conquering them and converting them.
You could not consider the apostles occupiers because they were just pure converters based on morality and example, but not like Muhammad.
But I can't think of anyone that switched the country around so quickly from a great enemy of the United States to a great friend of the United States.
And Douglas R. MacArthur is revered in Japan to this day.
The people in Italy and Germany did a good job too, but it wasn't as hard as it was with Japan.
I mean, we're much more alien.
I mean, they're part of our culture and we're part of their culture.
How many German Americans?
How many Italian Americans?
How many Americans have been to Germany and Italy?
How many have been to Japan?
MacArthur underestimated brilliant, brilliant general.
But maybe, and the Incheon landing was probably one of the greatest military feats in history, reversed by the communists around Truman.
But the best occupation that I can think of in history to achieve the purpose of bringing countries together was MacArthur and Japan.
And I don't think there's any appreciable anti-American feeling among the Japanese.
I think they are very close friends of ours.
To the same extent that Israel is, despite the fact that we apparently have a heck of a streak of anti-Semitism, certainly on the Democrat side, and we got one emerging on the Republican side that we should kick in the teeth and knock it out and get it out of here.
I mean, the greatest wisdom on the Holocaust and anti-Semitism and kill it before it starts growing.
It's just like crime.
And the broken windows theory.
First outbreak of anti-Semitism, out.
Okay, free speech, fine.
You want to be anti-Israel?
You have a right to free speech.
You don't have a right to come on my show and say it, though.
This is a private show.
This isn't run by the government.
If I say, Ted, I'm going to put so-and-so on and not so-and-so, I'm not illegally discriminating.
I'm discriminating like you discriminate, and you got three books in front of you, and you have to discriminate between the three of them and figure out which one you want to read.
In fact, if you take that away from me, you take away my right of freedom to learn, to know, which is part of the freedom of speech.
So we have every right to kick him the hell out of the Republican Party.
He's not being canceled.
He can go anywhere else he wants.
We just don't want him in our house.
You don't have to let somebody in your house if you don't want to.
There's no legal action.
Somebody can't come to the door and serve you with a subpoena unless they're like the Biden and FBI that lies like they did in my subpoena.
They can't come to the door and say, We're atheistic communists who don't believe in your form of government, but we want to sit down and talk to you and convert you.
You could say, Well, I'd rather not.
Goodbye, boom, and close the door.
They come in, you get them arrested for trespassing.
So stop this garbage with this canceling fluentes and stuff like that.
It's making a decision of what your party stands for.
And there are people who are so inconsistent with that they can't be part of your party if it's going to stand for anything.
It's always been that way.
Lincoln would have thrown him out on his ear, listening to the stuff he's saying.
So get the podcast.
It goes into great detail.
You're not going to have to worry about arguing this point.
We give you all the material.
We give you half the material in the first one.
Next week, we'll give you the rest of the material.
We did it in two parts, but it's done already.
Second one, we're going to start editing now.
Make sure everything's together.
All the pictures are in the right place.
We don't do it.
We don't like change what we said.
When I say edit, we put in, like, if I'm going to say his first speech, we found his first speech.
This was the first speech that he gave.
Let's listen to him when he was very young and he first began.
Then you got to put it in.
And that we do edit somewhat, but the speech is available to you, and you can go find it just like we did.
You can hear the whole thing if you want to listen to him for an hour.
I found it difficult to do for three minutes.
He's a as I've gotten older, I've suffered fools much more gladly.
As a younger person, I probably would have just, I mean, if he started saying that to my office, I just throw him out.
He says, I think Hitler was a good guy.
I'd say, okay, great.
Just why don't you go back to the insane asylum he came from?
We'll get you, get your bus pass back to Creedmoor.
And what I got, I'm busy.
I got to listen to somebody tell me how great Hitler was.
Okay, good, great.
If I did that, I never would have succeeded at anything.
So let's make sure we got all the pre-Tanksgiving stuff out that you need to know.
We talked about Z. Minnesota.
Minnesota.
Tell us about Minnesota.
And then we're going to talk about another similar rehabilitation project.
Although I think Fuentes is too far gone to be a rehabilitation project.
I think you just get them out and go stay with your Nazis.
Candace, Owen, who I always liked, she's getting to the point where, well, I mean, I guess I don't know if it's the post of the Wall Street Journal, they're basically recommending that she get treatment, but we'll get into that also.
Yeah, tell us about Minnesota.
This is another weird, but great instincts detective.
We're making him into a detective.
Well, I'm learning from the best, that's for sure.
Well, Minnesota is apparently drowning in fraud.
Billions in taxpayer dollars have been stolen during the administration of Governor Tim Walz alone.
Democrat state officials.
Oh, Tampon Tim.
Tampon Tim.
AKA Tampon Tim.
We haven't talked about it.
I'm sorry.
I'm a former pro.
I deal in aka's.
AKA Tampon Tim.
AKA potential Chinese who knows what.
So Democrat state officials overseeing one of the most generous welfare regimes in the country seem to be asleep at the switch.
In many cases, the fraud has allegedly been perpetrated by members of Minnesota's sizable Somali community.
Federal counterterrorism sources confirm that millions of dollars in stolen funds.
Isn't that the congresswoman, she's still married to her brother?
That, yeah, has that ever been truly litigated?
Do we know?
Because that's, there's got to be some problems with that.
I'm only being a wise guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The allegation is that she got herself into this country by being married to a brother who was either a resident or a citizen or something.
The question is, I guess that's like a loaded question that'd be objected to in court.
It assumes she was married to her brother.
I guess we don't know that for sure, right?
Is that what you're telling me?
We don't know for sure.
But in any event, she's there.
She's Somali.
She's very upset with how unfair Trump has been to the Somali people.
But meanwhile, Tampon Red China Tim has been funneling a great deal of money to the group in Somalia that's aligned to Al-Qaeda.
That's right.
Federal counterterrorism sources confirm that millions of dollars in stolen funds have been sent back to Somalia, where they ultimately land in the hands of the al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group, Al-Shabaab.
As one confidential source told the New York Post, quote, the largest funder of al-Shabaab terrorism is the Minnesota taxpayer.
Nice.
Now, how on earth?
He probably, I mean, well, I would say Tampon Tim probably learned that when he spent, he spent so much time in China.
There's no possibility that he, I mean, here's the way I put it, to be fair.
The facts are that Tampon Tim, from the time he got out of college, spent an inordinate amount of time in China teaching there.
Go back every summer and teach there.
He'd bring 50 or so American kids there.
Shame on him.
And China just wouldn't let him come back unless he was teaching communist dogma.
I'm sorry.
I mean, you got to know China.
They watch everything you do.
They've got everything wired.
As long as 20 years ago, when I went there, I brought burner phones there.
And in my security company, I Found security devices that people can use in China so that they can give themselves a chance of avoiding having everything taken from them.
China, not the only country that does it, but it's probably one of the most intrusive and one of the best at it for a very big country.
You know, if they do that in North Korea, that's pretty damn easy.
It's a tiny place.
But China's gigantic, and I don't know that they cover everything, but they sure cover Beijing.
And we, I can show, I can, they, they even fail simple intelligence agent tests, like we, we, uh, put we put some very thin uh uh sewing material down in our in our bags,
and we put slightly larger things in certain places and took a picture of it.
When we came back, it was all moved around wasn't a lot of wind every night.
They go through it to see if they come up with anything.
Myself, my colleagues, and my security-that's China, right?
Yeah, I mean, you've you've experienced it.
So, what are we going to do about uh Minnesota?
This was authorized by uh by Tampon.
So, that's the next question.
How much of this fraud did these Democrat state officials know about?
Did Elon Omar, yeah, if you, I mean, or her brother, they must know if they're a part of this community, they must know what's going on.
Well, I mean, she's a bit she's she's sort of the leader of the community, which is the biggest mouse in the Somali community, that's for sure.
So, she must know that she seems like everything she says that she seems like she is as sympathetic with Islamic terrorism and murder as the new mayor of New York.
So, is she going to so where do her allegiances lie?
Is she going to protect out about it, but I'm not sure I'm allowed to say it.
Well, yeah, is she going to protect the members of the smaller community in Minnesota?
Or is she going to protect the Minnesota taxpayer and the American taxpayer whose money is now?
So, this is a chance for her to demonstrate, you know, she wants to call people whatever this word is, xenophobic or whatever else she claims when they question her allegiance.
Here is a chance for her.
If people don't know what xenophobic means, but they know what anti-Semitic means, she's losing that one, right?
Right.
I didn't know what xenophobic meant until I got called and I had to look it up.
Well, let's see if she spearheads efforts to uncover this fraud and to call on the smaller community to straighten up its act or get the hell out of the country if you're not a citizen and you're stealing from taxpayers.
If you happen to be a citizen and you're stealing, you should be in jail.
If you're not a citizen, why are you still here?
There could be a lot of reasons you have to be in jail.
The Democrats seem to get away with all of them.
Well, I want to show you this.
So, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to look like I'm picking on her, but I'm trying to give her a little help here.
That's the New York Post head lead editorial.
I don't know if you've been following it.
I've been half following and half not.
I have my own suspicion as to what the heck is going on here, but she's been in this tremendous battle since Charlie Kirk died.
First, she tried to make it look like Israel did it.
Then now she's doing subtle suggestions that turning point killed their leader.
And she's gone as far as she would deny it, but other people interpreting her as giving the impression that Mrs. Kirk was involved in it.
And then there are a lot of other crazy things, Ted.
And when you listen to her, within about three minutes, you start to say, this is like one full of the kuku's nest.
Boom.
So the New York Post, can someone who cares about Candace Owens please get her to a psychiatrist?
There are a lot in New York, by the way.
They charge a lot.
You'll find a good one.
There are some really bad ones and some really good ones.
But I was thinking maybe it would be better.
Well, no, no.
We got her to a psychiatrist.
Then again, the millions of viewers who lap up her crazy content could probably use a head check, too.
In an ex-post Saturday, Owens claimed, quote, a high-ranking employee of the French government had warned her that President Emmanuel Macron and First Lady Bridget Macron have executed upon and paid for her assassination.
The kill squad includes at least, of course, one Israeli.
She's losing her last pinky finger hold on reality, says the writer.
These paranoid delusions of grandeur are no surprise to anyone who's paying the slightest attention to Owens.
She's been claiming since last year that Bridget McCone is trans and the Macron's are part of a pedophilic cult, the Frankis, that founded Israel.
She's even suggested Bridget may be her hubby's biological father.
I didn't know that.
Of course, she's 5.6 million subscribers.
She has 7.4 million followers.
This is the problem.
Now, is there something wrong with her, as they suggest, or are they suggesting that sarcastically?
Or is this just pure greed?
And you just say what you know is going to bring you 5 million followers.
Every click boosts Owen's profile, puts money in her pocket, and puts her into the feeds of equally unhinged viewers who do not buy what she's selling.
The algorithms that decide what content gets attention, reward the salacious, and reward the spreading of delusional thinking.
Wow, that's dangerous, isn't it?
I mean, with much less available to them, the Nazis were able to turn Germany that way, right?
They didn't have these devices.
So again, I am at the point where I haven't paid much attention to this and I didn't take them seriously.
I'm at the point where this is becoming very serious.
Yes.
And I'm not going to say we're getting on top of it right away.
probably should have gotten on top of it five years ago.
But it's still not fomented into a gigantic, it's time to cut this cancer out.
And I don't mean any physical harm to them or anything like that.
That would be just the opposite of that.
What I mean is responding with powerful arguments and facts and with the truth.
But the truth is only worth it if it gets to somebody, right?
It's like the tree falling in the forest.
The tree could fall, but you don't know.
And they do a very, very good job of creating false narratives.
Now, the left wing has much more of this than the right wing has.
But we stand for a lot different things than they do.
And we shouldn't have it at all.
I mean, the left wing for the longest time has been a patsy of the Communist Party.
So it's not unusual that they would engage in these kinds of lies.
But we haven't.
I mean, we're direct descendants of Abraham Lincoln.
Sure, we've had like fascist movements that tried to get close to us, but they didn't.
The original America Firsters, which were pro-Hitler people, they were not a legitimate part of the Republican Party.
Either in those days, they had a moderate and a right wing, but they weren't a big supporter of either Taft, who was on the right wing, or Dewey, who was on the left, or the moderate wing.
Both of them were equally shocked at the America First is like Lindbergh and Father Coughlin, who would preach anti-Semitism and love of Hitler.
Strange, you know, strangest thing I always thought, and I think it was a lack of knowledge that America First was taken as the, it's a beautiful idea.
And of course, I believe in America First, but it does have a history to it, which is very anti-America First, which is what these dictator types, fascist or communist, do.
They change language to they change the meeting, they change the meaning of a word and flip it around as a method of propaganda.
Nigeria, which I guess there's been, the president originally was very, very upset about the killing of Christians there.
Then there was a big back surge trying to say that, well, they really weren't Christians that were being killed.
This was a dispute between cowhands.
This was guys fighting over range territory.
Well, I don't know how many cows were in the Catholic school where 276 high school students were abducted.
St. Mary's Catholic School in central Niger State was not exactly a dispute over where your cow should be.
And they were sprayed with bullets, forcing 303 students and 12 teachers and staff into the nearby forest at gunpoint.
50 students have escaped so far and been reunited, according to Bishop Boulis Dua Johanna, the Niger State chairman of the Christian Association of Nigeria.
Of the children who remain missing, 39 are nursery school students, according to a list published by the Catholic Diocese of Cantagora.
Even for Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation, the St. Mary's abduction was large.
It has become all too familiar.
Since 2014, there have been at least 17 cases of mass abductions, in which at least 1,700 children were seized from their school by gunmen, and this was a Christian school.
Sometimes the attacks are carried out by extremist groups such as Boka Haram.
In the country's northeast.
In the northwest, it's done for ransom.
In the country's central region, Christian farmers have been battling with a tribe of largely Muslim cattle herdsmen for years over dwindling natural resources.
The end result of all these conflicts is the widespread killing and abduction of Christian and Muslim civilians.
So the numbers happen to be grossly in favor of the killing of Christians.
This is President, former President Adewal Adebayo, who's going to run for president.
What is happening in Nigeria is that Christians are being killed.
It is true that non-Christians are being killed, but the emphasis is on Christians.
Somehow we can't stand it.
And the president has said he's going to send troops there.
I don't know that he's got to send troops there.
I think he's just got to use economic sanctions on them.
And they'll go with it.
Worst part of it is, and this has to be considered, but then you got to put your foot down, right?
They are one of the African countries that is the most pro-American.
So I don't know what you square that with, but we got to think about that.
But then again, it's like anti-Semitism.
And we do allow too much abuse of Christians, murder and abuse of our religion.
Things where, you know, defiling Muhammad, who, you know, if you just, if you just do a painting of Muhammad that's historically accurate, like his leading an army or his killing a bunch of Jewish people, you got to take it down.
But if you do a thing where you put cow dung on the Blessed Mother, which obviously never happened, right, you're considered to violate the First Amendment.
We have an inability to face the truth about Muhammad.
Bet you couldn't do a movie based on just the things in the Quran and the Hadith recited about Muhammad and make it his life.
Bet you couldn't.
But you can do the last temptation of Christ, which way back said that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.
There isn't a single religious or historical fact supporting that.
I do a movie based on what it says in the Quran, not rumors, and what it says in the authoritative hadith about his advice in the second half of his life.
First, killing Christians and Jews, and then having a separate little business where you could extort money from them if they were willing to be submissive to you.
Kill them.
Either become Muslim, get money out of them, and we'll pay the money.
They won't convert.
He killed thousands and thousands of them.
Muhammad did.
And that's how the religion got spread in the two centuries after Muhammad.
There's a great recommendation.
There's a great recommendation to increase the number of trade schools in the United States to fill crucial jobs.
I hope that's followed up on.
I think that is a great idea.
I'm sure you would too.
The attacks on the ICE agents are increasing.
I mean, more and more of those attacks.
They are being compared to Nazis.
They're being compared to the Gestapo, the save police.
And all of that is having an impact and putting their lives in jeopardy.
There was an incident of alleged brutality by ICE, which I haven't analyzed carefully.
I will.
So I can give you my views on it tomorrow night.
I sure as heck have experience with that too, having seen real ones and phony ones.
But I think we've gotten most of it told to you that you're not going to hear someplace else.
You're not going to hear about the good news about the tariffs.
And I seriously doubt you're going to hear anywhere else the kinds of things that Gordon Chang said, or the fact that unlike the Democrats, when this ugly issue of anti-Semitism stands up, we stand up.
We don't go hiding like Schumer.
Many, many Republicans have stood up against the Tucker Carlson interview, and particularly the things said by Florentes in very, very strong language.
Arthur Hanson Davis, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, just about everybody on Newsmax that comments.
I can't think of anybody that's defending him.
Far different than Elon Omar when she makes her anti-Semitic remarks.
They all go hide in Biden's basement.
Very, very few comments about that.
And I hope that the piece that's out right now, I hope it does its job of showing you that this is more than justified and long overdue.
It'll be on.
You have any excerpt that we can show them before we sign off?
Here we are in soccer time.
Show them excerpts from the first part, second part.
We'll be out either right after Thanksgiving or right into the next week.
We'll see.
We'll play a little extra here.
I just got to find a good spot here.
This is the mayor.
I wonder when the White House Christmas tree lighting is.
Yeah, we should.
We're depriving a whole group of people of sustenance so they die, or you name it.
I mean, some horrible, immoral, amoral, universally accepted crime against humanity, which of course we allow communist countries to do.
We allow China to do.
We allow Iran to do.
But we don't permit that.
We've never, and this is the reason we're not part of their organizations like the International Court of Justice, which have double standards, no standards.
So there are a whole group of quintessential American issues that bring us back to our founding and the reason for this country are raison d'être.
We did have French help, so we can't, we are allowed to use some French words for the country.
So it does raise a First Amendment issue, of course.
Can I or Tucker Carlson or anyone else, a left-wing nutjob, can they put on anybody they want and say anything they want?
And is all of that covered by the First Amendment?
Well, and then, of course, the second is the judgment entailed in that.
And the third is the political impact of it.
All of that comes together in one.
And I think the best way to do that is to let me see if I can the best job I can of giving you something that you can use, something that will help educate you on the background of this, things that possibly you haven't seen before, things that my friend Tucker didn't give you on that podcast, which may be the worst thing that he did, because I don't know that he did things as terrible as he's being charged with.
Remember, my common sense podcast is based on proving it to you.
So, for example, I did a trial of Biden over four or five podcasts in which we called witnesses and had you decide if they were telling the truth or not.
Showed you exhibits, some video and audio.
Don't want you just to trust me.
I want you to test me.
I think on the major themes, I'm right, but I make mistakes on the minor ones.
I don't know, maybe I make them on the major ones too.
I don't think so.
So let's get started.
And I think the way we start, the way we start is let's give a simple answer to the First Amendment so we can go forward.
However terrible you think Tucker Carlson was for, and I'm not saying he was, but however terrible you think he was for doing this, or however awful fluentes was, under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as presently interpreted and with attendant laws that have been passed to fill it out, what they did was perfectly legal.
As the President of the United States says, Tucker Carlson can call anyone he wants.
All that does is implicate not legal rights with very narrow circumstances.
I guess a war criminal.
Who knows?
Well, what we do is we use in that particular, in that particular episode, we use his first speech,
his interviews with Alex Jones, who is partially his friend and partially his adversary, and certainly doesn't go as far as him on things like anti-Israel and anti-Semitism, which is a good thing.
It shows that people don't just reflexively follow this guy with hateful ideas.
We then show you his current position on Trump, which we showed you last night, him saying that Trump has ruined the MAGA movement, that Trump is fat and a pig and lied to everyone.
And so I don't know why we have to defend him, but people assume that he's part of us.
He's not.
He doesn't like Trump.
You'll be surprised to learn he didn't vote for Trump.
And then We show him expressing his viewpoints to a group of impressionable kids, which give a completely distorted, ignorant, extremely ignorant, ahistorical version of the Second World War and how good Hitler is.
So it isn't just what I'm going to show you, but what, you know, in the Seder, the Jewish Seder, they have something called Dianu, which is that's, you know, God led us out of bondage.
If God had only let us out of bondage, that would be enough.
If God had only let us out of bondage, Dayenu, and then Dianu, Dianu, then if God, if God had given us, just given us the Ten Commandments, that would have been enough.
Dayenu.
So this is a Dianu.
We'll see why in a moment.
Simple yes or no answer.
Hitler.
Good guy, bad guy.
That's a top.
Well, there are no good and bad guys.
They're just people.
Well, that's not true, dude.
It is true.
So if you had to check one box.
I'm going to say I'm neutral on that.
I'm abstaining from you're saying that Hitler was not a bad guy.
I think that, you know, it's then you're questioning why people may not want you talking.
There's a platform.
If we're going to say Hitler bad, then I'm going to say Churchill bad and I'm going to say Roosevelt bad and I'm going to say they're all bad.
But if we look at him as a product of his time in that moment, you know, we have to judge him with those things in mind.
That's all.
I mean, there's plenty more about the Jews killing Jesus and the Jews wanting to kill, still wanting to kill Jesus and all kinds of crazy stuff.
But isn't that enough?
If he had only said Hitler is a good guy, Dayenu, and Churchill and Roosevelt are bad guys.
If he had only said that, Dayenu.
If he had only said that the English and the French started World War II, not the Germans, wouldn't that be enough to prove he shouldn't be part of your group?
You want him to be part of your club?
I mean, if you agree with that stuff, you do.
If you see that stuff as not just untrue, but extraordinarily incendiary.
And when you see him with the young kids, you'll see that he makes an impression on them because they're not educated.
They don't have the education that I have, or many of you have.
I mean, I saw the source documents because I handled two Nazi deportations.
When I think of that, it gets me when I think of, oh gosh, it goes back 30 of sitting in that library and going through the pictures and the witnesses who watched exterminations like Muhammad did a thousand years later of Jewish people.
So this is important.
It's important that America wipe this out immediately.
And let's start with the Republican Party wiping it out.
I think we're doing it.
I think we're doing it, but it's not being paid attention to.
So get yourself this.
You can chop it up, take little clips out of it.
We'll even put some out and just shove it in people's faces.
I have absolutely no reservation saying this man doesn't have any part, shouldn't have any part of any American organization.
This is not by the definition of our first Republican president an American.
He doesn't believe in the core values of this country.
That's what makes an American.
We're not one religion.
We're not one language.
We're not one ethnic group.
We're not one of anything.
You know what we are?
We're believers in freedom.
The value of life.
The group of values enshrined in our first 10 amendments and in our Constitution and in our Declaration of Independence.
We're zealots about that.
As Abraham Lincoln said, if you just arrived here today and you believe that much stronger than somebody who's a descendant of someone from the Mayflower, you're a better American.
Thank you, Abe.
Thank you for this party.
Let's keep it.
Party can't be pure, but we can't stick to our basic values and never, ever compromise those, ever.
And when a person like this comes along, sweep him out as an example of what we stand for and not worry about, oh, they might not vote for us.
And maybe some of those kids, maybe some of those MAGA.
He says the MAGA movement's over.
So what the heck are we worried about?
I don't really care how many votes we lose.
I think it's much more important that we don't lose our immortal soul.
That's what you're playing with when you're playing with Jew hatred, Nazi adoration, and Holocaust denial.
You're playing with losing your immortal soul.
Well, with that, we should pray for the people of Israel because not only do they have the Muslim extremist enemies and Europe, they've got nut jobs like Nick Fuentes and the entire American left.
So pray for the people of Israel.
Pray for the people of Ukraine, who may or may not be getting a peace situation.
I mean, while peace is being discussed, they're getting killed, which got to tell you something about the good faith of Putin, but I hope that registers somewhere.
And pray for the people of Iran, who very quietly are undermining their Muslim, insane, excessive, terroristic regime.
Pray for the people of the United States.
Do a prayer of Thanksgiving in advance, just in case you forget on Thursday.
In fact, you should do one every day to the Lord our God and say a prayer for our great president who is really, really saving our country, step by difficult step.
So thank you very much.
An early, happy Thanksgiving.
See?
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