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Nov. 14, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Thursday, November 13, 2025
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I don't know this.
I don't know if this happens if NASA, if they don't, if they don't end up creating the Space Force under Trump, because believe me, starting with Clinton, they just forgot about space.
And then Bush probably would have rejuvenated space, but then we got deterred with the wars on terrorism, which were necessary to protect the country.
And Obama, of course, he was just kind of thinking about making sure the Ayatollah survived and that he ended colonialism and helped destroy America so it could be part of the new global world.
So he didn't do shit about space.
So Trump had to revive it.
And thank God he did.
And they tried to start this under Obama, but it wouldn't work.
Well, nothing worked under Obama.
And I'm sorry, they tried to start it under Biden and it wouldn't work.
And then finally, finally, I guess it was in January of 25, the new Glenn vehicle, which is the main vehicle here.
There's a lot of different, a lot of different rockets propelling each other.
But the new Glenn vehicle got a test and it worked.
That was an inaugural launch.
And then this got put off really because of weather, both our weather and weather now in space.
So you have to deal with both.
But so what was this?
This was the Blue Origin space venture.
This is really supported mainly a lot of contributors to it.
But I guess the main one would be Jeff Bezos.
It's his company that led the project to help develop it.
This is their first NASA project because up until now, Blue Origin, unlike Musk spacecraft, has been pretty much commercial rather than working with NASA.
But now they're working on three, I think, three projects with NASA, this being the first one.
The Blue Horizon Origin, basically it's seven BE-4 liquid-fueled engines, seven engines.
It's really just remarkable to look at.
There were several days of delay, which included a geomagnetic storm.
Don't ask me to tell you what a geomagnetic storm is, but there was one.
I have an idea of what it must be.
And the new Glenn is the main rocket.
Actually, it's two rockets, but there's a reusable first stage booster rocket that sort of sets it off and flings it into space.
And so everybody was a little confused at the beginning, if you hadn't been briefed on it, because all of a sudden the rocket takes off and this miracle occurs.
This fast-moving gigantic rocket lands on a barge in the middle of the water.
That was a hell of a landing.
I mean, when you consider how hard it is to land a plane on an aircraft carrier, putting that thing down on a dot, I don't know how fast it was traveling.
Didn't they have, wasn't there like an afterburner that a parachute going on?
So they used to slow that thing down on a dime.
They probably did at least two things.
One, they propelled in the opposite direction.
So toward the end, the whole thing is going like this, right?
It's going forward.
It's coming down.
And then at the very end, they're going to be, they're going to be, some of those seven engines are going to start to be using to push in the other direction.
And then the parachutes come out.
How they don't burn, I don't know, but they don't.
And that's, they make a point, I guess, because of the huge amount of money involved here.
That whole thing there is a reusable rocket.
I don't know.
I think Trump is sitting there thinking, gee, maybe it could, maybe it could head toward Venezuela or Iran or something.
How'd you like to deal with that?
China.
So the people watching it were, of course, at Cape Canaveral, which has been, it used to be Cape Kennedy, way back at the beginning.
And largely, you know, I think appropriately Cape Kennedy.
Much like I don't, I think this, you know, if, God forbid, Biden or Camel, it took about 32 minutes to get to space.
Wow.
Now, that's really interesting because the rocket that propelled it into space because then turned down and started coming back to Earth and landed right on the right on the, I thought it was an aircraft carrier.
It was a barge, Ted.
I mean, they might as well have made the target just a little round circle.
I mean, these guys are good.
I'm so proud of them.
I mean, it's really unbelievable.
I don't.
This is exactly what America's all about.
It's Jeff Bezos, right?
Yeah.
Now, we all kind of have mixed feelings about Jeff Bezos because of WAPO.
That's the Washington Post piece of crap.
Although he's tried to straighten out the editorial board, at least, right?
Right, right.
Half of them quit, thank God.
They think they went off to China to work for, or maybe Venezuela working for the communist newspapers.
So the one that returned, everybody went crazy when they saw that return.
The applause was great.
We're going to put that up.
That'll be 1.4 in just a second.
So what's been left up there, the dual spacecraft, which is called Blue and Gold, it's going to reach Mars.
Now, catch this.
It's going to reach Mars, Ted, in 2027.
What that's, we're not even at the moment.
Then it's going to be in elliptical orbits for 11-month study of the planet's space weather environment.
So why are we studying the space weather environment?
Well, you know why, right?
Why?
Put a human there.
What do we need to do?
I mean, I think we already know, and the Chinese know, and there's a little bit of a contest on that.
And the Russians, I don't think have the money for it anymore.
And the Chinese may not have the money for it anymore.
They may not.
That's serious.
But that is being done to study the atmosphere because, let's face it, we don't really have space tourism.
And he has taken people into space, right?
There have been some pretty famous, they're kind of quick, right?
I mean, they go up for what?
20 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour.
Is anybody up there more than an hour?
I don't know.
And this was originally, the name of the, it has a lot of names.
It gets confusing.
Escapade is a name for the overall project, Escape and Plasma Acceleration and Dynamics Explorers.
And it was originally slated for launch in October of 2024.
But it was delayed before because the setbacks.
It was delayed because there was a moron in the White House.
And he wouldn't have even, it would have been really tough.
He wouldn't have known what happened.
He might have scared him when he saw this.
He might have pressed that little button thinking or the auto pen might have pressed a button and started a war because he thought we were attacked.
And it would have been embarrassing to send the auto pen to the launch, right?
Can you?
So a blue and gold is up there now, can be up there also now circling around the earth and checking out space.
And then they're going to, the reason it takes this long is they're going to take advantage of some movement in the atmosphere.
Don't ask me to explain it.
We'll get somebody to do it.
Yeah.
That will help propel it toward Mars.
And that's why it's going to take until 2027 to get to Mars.
Now, about eight months earlier, it'll turn towards Mars.
Okay.
So we'll be plus, this will be feeding.
Plus, in between now and then, it's going to be feeding back all kinds of information.
Some, I'm sure, that we can report and a lot that we can't report.
I think they already said that Qi Jinming doesn't look good today.
No, no, he's been going to the bathroom a lot today.
He's not.
He's been thinking about the state of his economy.
How come all the generals, how come 16 of his top 20 generals have been removed?
Yeah.
How's their space program?
Not a good sign that he's hiding in the, hey, Chi, get out of the bathroom, babe.
They got a Chinese meal for you.
I know, I know you can't trust your taster.
I know that.
I know that.
It was built by the California-based aerospace company, built by the private sector.
We have a private sector.
China doesn't have a private sector.
There's no such thing as a freedom.
It's exactly the same as political freedom.
It's having the freedom to have, pretty much, to make decisions about your money and how to spend it.
And then with a safety net for the hopefully small percentage that aren't able to do that.
And you try to create the maximum percentage who are contributors and the minimum percentage of the dependent.
In the case of communism, everybody's dependent so that Xi Jinming or Putin or Maduro can tell them exactly what to do and when to do it.
And that's why it's an immoral, indecent, inhuman system of economics and system of government.
And they go hand in hand.
And why we don't teach this to our young people, I don't know.
I mean, or just let them read the stuff themselves.
They'd figure it out.
I mean, I read it myself.
I figured it out.
I don't know.
I probably could have told you most of this when I was 13.
I mean, the stuff about communism and socialism.
Right.
So again, congratulations to the main company that was involved in building it, which is called Rocket Lab.
It's based in California.
See, there are some good things in California.
And the instruments were supplied by the University of California at Berkeley.
That's a significant school.
Okay.
It's a great school.
I mean, it's a great school when it wants to be a great school.
It can be also a communist training ground when it wants to be.
Better way of putting it.
Blue Origin that was founded by Bezos in 2000, was the main organizer of this.
Then the secondary payload was developed by a satellite company called Viasat or VSAT.0, if you want to look it up.
And that remained attached to the rocket's upper stage for a technical demonstration of in-space communications.
I don't know if that's taken place yet or will take place.
And so this was the first science payload that Blue Origin has delivered into space for NASA.
And it puts them on somewhat of more of an equal footing with Ilama SpaceX, which is by far the world's leading rocket launch service by a lot.
Now, as you can tell, this was named for John Glenn.
The main rocket was named from John Glenn, who was the first American to orbit the Earth.
And what was a great victory at the time for the United States over Khrushchev's Soviet Union?
This creates two times more thrust at liftoff than SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket and about the same as SpaceX's Falcon Heavy vehicle.
That's Musk's vehicle.
And it offers the most cargo room of any right now that's been developed.
NASA spent $55 million for this project.
Now, give me a break.
They played Blue Origin.
They paid Bezos $18 million.
Come on.
Thank you, Jeff.
No, come on.
The government, I mean, this is a hell of a contribution to the government.
I can't imagine what this project costs.
$55 million?
Oh, boy.
You can't even buy a house in Palm Beach for $55 million, much less put a thing in space, right?
Trump would turn it down, you know, for Mar-a-Lago in a second.
100%.
You'd get the garage at Mar-Algo.
Yeah, we're going to do that.
The small garage.
And they've been, Bloor Origin is also working on a crewed moon lander for NASA's Artemis lunar exploration program.
So they are in direct competition with SpaceX, which has launched its own Falcon rockets on 280 missions.
You have any idea that that's active, huh?
And some of it in conjunction with NASA, but a lot of it for their Starling satellite business.
We always mean to, I have a thing here in my Amazon file, which is gigantic, right?
Of things to look at, of a whole Starling thing that we could hook up to.
What do you think of that, Ted?
I like it.
Okay, so we're going to have to look at that.
Starship, once placed in the service, which is the one that is being developed by SpaceX, would by far be the most powerful rocket.
So Bezos has made a big step in catching up, but SpaceX is still way ahead, which is good for the United States.
Let them keep doing it.
Maybe the best thing that could happen is eventually, when we get to the big decision of going to the moon, they work together.
Yeah.
I mean, they are both Americans.
I mean, they're in competition.
It's good.
That's what America is about, competition.
Again, I'm telling you, just this is to get the most out of people, to get the most out of a country, you have to have an intimate understanding of human nature.
And if you don't, you fail.
Communism has a total distortion of human nature because Marx was a freak.
He was a satanic freak, but that's what they're following his philosophy and the philosophy of nihilist philosophers for the last 200 years before him.
That's how he developed it.
People who thought God was dead, the world was dead, people who were suicidal, people who were, I mean, there was a whole period of time that Marx went through thinking he was Satan.
And he followed a lot of screwball philosophers to get to where he was.
Nobody teaches that to these kids.
Nobody.
So the shutdown.
The Schumer shutdown.
The Schumer shutdown is, you know, is going through lots of spinning now.
The spin.
And I thought the best analysis I saw was by Barton Swame in the Wall Street Journal, who very, very succinctly points out that this wasn't done.
This was done by the Democrat Party without any doubt.
Of course, because they owned the press, it may very well be, as Swame says, if you took a poll, people blame Republicans for it.
Even though Republicans put up virtually the same continuing resolution that was voted on yesterday, it was put up 14 other times.
Only minor things were added to it of very little significance, except one sneaky thing done by the Senate in which the senators participated, both of them, both sides, Democrats and Republicans, against the House, Democrats and Republicans.
We'll explain that to you in a minute.
But Swame says, so people, so people would say, well, they did it to satisfy the Democratic base.
And Swain makes the point: if you were to poll most Democrats, even the left-wing nut jobs like Bernie Sanders in the past, because this time everyone knows the closing of government is just stupid and harmful.
Unless the price of keeping it open is putting yourself in bankruptcy, which is what they made the price impossible for Trump to pay.
And believe me, he didn't want to shut down the government.
No way.
He also couldn't possibly sell out to just a complete extension and increase of the ridiculous amounts that were put in the budget by Biden in the so-called, well, the Pro-Inflation Act, in which health care was increased by enormous amounts.
Just think of it.
I mean, people can get free health care 800% above the poverty line.
I mean, you got people earning, you know, six-digit incomes getting health care.
You also, because it's run so corruptly, I don't know how much of that money really goes for health care.
If you were to tell me that 30% of that budget goes off for absolutely illegitimate purposes, like to people who are working, could get healthcare, and don't lie and get health care.
That's a big number.
That's a really big one.
That's been estimated at 20%, 30%.
Or how about the healthcare accounts of people who don't exist?
Who's getting those?
The Democratic mayors?
Or how about the people that could work but don't?
Or maybe they're not working on the books, but they're getting health care.
And they're getting better health care than they might get if they went out and tried to get it privately, but they can afford it.
This was an impossible price to pay.
And the Democrats really weren't that serious about doing it because they caved in.
What did they get?
They didn't even get a commitment that there'd be a vote on it.
In fact, a lot of them make a fortune on it.
A lot of them make a fortune on it.
And they really are more powerful than the lobbyists, aren't they?
Because they can take you out of office.
Look at the teachers here.
I got to believe that half of the Democrats, if not more, around the country, political ones in office, believe in vouchers, education choice, charter schools.
90% vote against it.
60 to 70% of, 60 to 70% of minority parents are for it.
Black parents, even higher than Hispanic parents.
And Democrats are against it because Democrats do not represent, Democrats in office do not represent Democratic people.
They represent Democrat nonprofits of special interests.
Like George Soros's Open Society, like the extremist LGBTQ group, the human rights campaign, for example, the Palestinian anti-Zionist organizations, the National Education Association, the American Federation of Teachers, the Southern Poverty Law Center,
Black Lives Matter.
These are the constituencies that they're worried about turning against them because, like Schumer, the quintessential coward, they're afraid that an AOC of some kind is going to run against them or a Mandani.
And therefore, since they have no guts and they have no real patriotism, they cave in.
And we end up with an agenda that nobody can figure out.
Nobody can understand.
Who in their right minds really thinks that men should be boxing with women?
You really want to watch that?
You want to watch a biological male beat up a woman?
I don't think people really do.
And why do these organizations support it?
Because it's wacky, because it'll screw up our government.
Because they really want some kind of an international government.
Bigger and the further away the central government is, the more unaccountable these organizations can become.
The more the government is local, the more scrutiny the government can have on these people.
It's part of the development of communism.
And we'll spend more time developing that.
I would love to really take you through a historical analysis of that because it's why we are in the position we're in.
But I think you understand this.
I mean, you can, it's the reason why you end up scratching your head in the morning sometimes.
How does that happen?
What are we doing with biological males going into female bathrooms?
Are we fighting over there?
We actually think that's some kind of human right?
Human right to put yourself in a position where perverts can take advantage of that and rape women?
Oh yeah, that's great.
Or go down to some South American country and bring back a guy who beats the shed of his wife.
Like Van Poophan Poofel did.
Right.
Right.
So let's take a look at, let's take a look at the, did we get that piece from that Congresswoman?
I don't know, I can't remember her.
It's one dope after another.
But this, no, no, this dope.
This dope is the one who said that the Democrats had to do the shutdown because healthcare is unaffordable.
Not Madeline Dean.
Do we have her?
We have Madeline Dean who said it was a success.
Well, let's hear it.
Maybe that, yeah.
What's your question?
He made a very strong argument.
These were extraordinary circumstances, but the American people got it.
That by shutting the government down, we were able to focus on and get everybody else focused on the unaffordability of health care across this country.
In my own district, we had Lisa come in and testify in a hearing that we had last week here, Democrats Working.
Her health care for her and her 19-year-old son will quadruple.
She said effectively, I am going to have only catastrophic health care because of the high deductible and co-pays and the extraordinary cost of these premiums.
So what I would say is we were very successful.
First of all, the continuing resolution contains nothing about health care other than we'll discuss it.
That's worth, I don't know, there are probably people who economically were destroyed by what you did, jerk.
There probably were completely destroyed by what you did.
Now, maybe the harm is remediable.
Maybe it isn't.
But you didn't accomplish that.
You didn't get anything.
You didn't do anything about the unaffordability of healthcare.
Healthcare is just the same price now as it was before you closed the government down and voted against reopening it 13 or 14.
You remember doing that?
Jerk.
She virtually admitted that they were the cause of it.
To alert the American people to the unaffordable healthcare, they don't know that healthcare is unaffordable.
Now, let's get to the real issue.
Why is it unaffordable?
Because of Obamacare and because of what Biden did to it by putting it through the roof.
And you wanted to make it worse.
The proposition that you have to continue will just escalate the cost.
I don't know, another 20, 25%.
And you'll drive more private insurers out and you'll have the government bearing, getting us closer and closer to a pure government-directed healthcare if we don't have it already.
I mean, there'sn't a person, a serious economist that would tell you that Obamacare hasn't completely bankrupted health care, particularly with what Biden did to it.
And that's what they wanted to continue.
And that has to be cured, has to be fixed.
They really are more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can we also put on Jasmine Crockett?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, this is absolutely, this gets to the Epstein situation.
This gets to the Epstein situation because these people are complete.
And they keep doing it.
I don't know how many times they can try to frame Trump and sort of get away with it with the legacy media, with the Times cooperating with them, and this one cooperate.
This one is a little vibe.
CNN has actually really hit back on some of these Democrats.
Uh for saying this, for for uh, like they, they put out, they put out their version of an email in which, in which uh it it uh, Epstein asserts that Trump spent time with this underage uh, girl or girl who was a victim, and they put the name victim in.
They just put victim in over the name.
Now, the Democrats did that.
They put it out that way.
Uh, it was um, it was corrected later and it and there the document now is out, with with the name there and the name of Virginia Jeffrey.
Virginia Jeffrey consistently said that Trump was a nice man, that Trump was very kind to her.
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