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Nov. 12, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Wednesday, November 12, 2025
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Well, good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is the Rudy Giuliani show on Lindell TV.
And we're very glad to be with you, particularly because it just doesn't stop.
I mean, it doesn't stop.
The Democrats don't stop.
I mean, I know I get sometimes I don't believe myself how evil they are.
I really don't.
I mean, I don't believe it, even though after all they did to me, this whole thing with Epstein is just, again, the same manipulation of the truth to somehow involve Trump in something he's not involved in.
Now, I know this beyond any doubt because at the time that this first came to my attention, when I started representing Donald Trump, I went out of my way to investigate this and pulled together witnesses and the lady who did the first article and was totally shocked by the fact that Trump threw Epstein out and exactly how that happened,
because he was abusing the people who worked in the massage area, in the spa, in the massage area.
And he threw him out and he left somewhere in these notes with Wolf, Epstein says he wasn't a member of Mar-a-Laco.
Well, that's just not true.
He was a member of Mar-Lago.
He was a member of the golf course also.
And Trump threw him out and had all of his items given to the security people at the gate.
I don't remember if it was the gate of Mar-Lago or the gate of the golf course, one or the other, and told them to notify him to come and get it.
And he was finished with him.
Now, the Democrats today put out a group of a group of items about Epstein, very carefully selected and about as carefully and falsely arranged as the BBC did, with taking two comments of Trump's to a 54 minutes apart and making it look like he was advocating for violence on January 6 and leaving out his statement.
that they should go peacefully and patriotically to the Hill.
They just left it out.
So here they pull together these various emails and texts involving Epstein, Maxwell, and Wolfe.
Now, you've got another Wolf is the author of probably the biggest book of lies ever written by anyone.
He was a complete scum and has been going after Trump forever and ever and ever.
If you read these carefully, as I can, I know what he goes, Wolf and Epstein, many years after Trump threw him out, were conniving to see if they could frame Trump.
Wolf is advising Epstein in 2019, which is long after Trump had gotten rid of him, on how maybe Trump will expose himself.
And maybe if we just keep quiet, he'll say something wrong.
But there's no indication, even in these notes, these notes, Epstein claims a much closer relationship to Trump than seems to be the case.
He claims that Trump was with him and that Trump knew about the girls.
He doesn't say that Trump did anything with the girls.
He said he knew about the girls.
Well, every piece of evidence there is shows that he didn't know about the girls, but even more definitively, that he never did anything with them.
But the way the Democrats put this together, well, he was there a lot of times and they spent a lot more time together than he says.
This is all done after the fact.
So this is all put out.
And then they put out a statement that he was with one victim.
And they leave the name of the victim out.
They leave the name of the victim out because the victim has, under oath on television interviews, and in her book, said that her relationship with Trump was a very positive one, that he helped her, that there was no sexual contact of any kind in front of them.
She even went through a deposition where the lawyers tried to entrap Trump.
And Virginia, this is back a few years ago.
What is the basis for your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey's?
Now, let's listen to her answer very carefully.
Jeffrey told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his.
That doesn't make it true, right?
But you never observed them together?
No, not that I can actually remember.
Not off the top of my head, no.
Now listen to this.
This is like trying to put words in a mouth, right?
I know depositions and I know slimy lawyers.
When did Donald Trump flirt with you?
He didn't.
Under oath.
When did Donald Trump flirt with you?
I don't know when this goes back to, probably about 2019 or something like that.
When did Donald Trump flirt with you?
He didn't.
That's what's inaccurate.
Did you ever see Donald Trump at Jeffrey's home?
Not that I remember.
On his island?
No, not that I can remember.
In New Mexico, no, not that I can remember.
In New York, not that I can remember.
All right.
All right.
I give up.
I'm trying to frame Trump, but you're not going along.
And then they go on another set of subjects.
At other times in the deposition, she makes it clear that if anything, she had a friendly, cordial relationship with Trump and that there was so the key witness denies it.
And the Democrats left her name out to protect her privacy.
Yeah, right.
But they finally put it out.
You know why they left her name out?
Because the Democrats know that there's sworn testimony, a book, a television interview, and about three or four witnesses that would all say, including the poor woman herself who committed suicide, but before she did, where having been pushed to try to entrap Trump, she says, no, I never had a relationship with him.
And of my own knowledge, I don't know that they were friends.
So Jeffrey told me that.
But I never saw him at the house.
I never saw him here.
I never saw him there.
I never saw him here.
I never saw him there.
They leave all that out.
And they just put out that Trump had been with one of the victims.
They say victims, and they cross out the name.
They don't say Virginia.
Trump had been with the Virginia Jewfrey.
Virginia Jufrey has testified under oath that wouldn't the Democrats want you to know the full truth so you could evaluate it?
Or are they just, as usual, lying scumbags?
Well, they're lying scumbags.
They're much worse than you can even imagine.
This is, you know, this is the whole thing all over again.
And it's the press, which now, you know how hard it was to find these things online?
I mean, Google and Google search and what's the other one that we use.
Really, really hard to find.
They bury it.
Also, I have her book here.
I got the Kindle version of her book.
You're free to read it.
The book makes the book, which was written after the deposition testimony.
So the deposition testimony was like about seven or eight years ago, where she says, no, he never flirted with me.
He never did anything with me.
The book, I don't have the copy of it, but I got it on Kindle, you know, which is the way everybody, including me, reads now, I guess, which I don't like because, you know, the one thing about Kindle, I just realized, unless I don't know how to use it, there's no really good index in it.
This book, of course, came out October 20th.
We have the cover up on the screen and has been, of course, getting a lot of play since its release post bestseller, right?
Right.
So let me see if I can lay this out for you and then we'll show you some of it.
So, you know, I'm telling you the truth.
This is a report that was done by a group that was fact-checking.
Virginia Jufrey's sworn deposition in 2016.
Okay.
And later, public accounts consistently deny that Donald Trump sexually assaulted her or had sex with her, while confirming she worked at Mar-a-Lago and met Trump there.
A posthumous memoir and reporting add context, but do not allege any improper conduct by Trump.
Media coverage and statements from Trump and his defenders have emphasized that Trump said that Epstein stole workers from Mar-a-Lago.
This apparently upset Jeffrey's family.
And they're very angry about his saying that.
Of course, they have every right to be as sensitive as they can.
I don't understand exactly what.
Well, I mean, it makes her sound like property.
I don't know what that is, but the family is very angry at him, but no one is alleging anything that he did anything.
It'd be kind of hard to allege it after the young lady herself said under oath that there was nothing between them at all, and then repeated it in a book.
And even her author, who tries as best she can, you can see with this interview with the phony press, because they're trying to envegle some kind of allegation against Trump.
She finally has to admit that, well, no, there was no.
So, shall we play the this is the ghostwriter for the for the book that you just saw 2.1.
A month before, weeks before the presidential election, she was a huge Trump fan.
Two reasons for that.
One, she had met Trump on numerous occasions because she worked at Mar-a-Lago Spa in Florida, which he owns.
And her father also worked there and knew Trump pretty well.
So she was introduced to Trump.
He was kind to her.
The second reason she wanted Trump to be president was because he campaigned on releasing the Epstein files.
And she was excited about that.
So, yes, we talked about Trump a lot as a crusader to release the Epstein files in that sense.
She was very excited that he had made that one of the main planks of his campaign.
And she felt validated by it.
But she never talked about him in any sense that he was involved in any of this.
No.
No, he was not, as far as she knew, and again, she was there for two plus years.
But as far as she knew, he was not involved in the ring of trafficking that Epstein was working.
So that's the victim that the Democrats put out today and left her identity out.
Can you be any more dishonest than that or deceptive in trying to make a very, very serious allegation out of something that was absolutely innocent?
This is the ghostwriter that spent hours and hours with the young woman.
At every occasion she had, she made it clear that there was nothing going on with Trump, nothing.
And that, from her impression, they weren't as close friends as Jeffrey and Jeffrey Epstein.
Documents suggest, all of it being orchestrated by this completely dishonest writer, Wolf, Who is trying the worst way to frame Trump?
Just as the Democrats are.
So I don't know.
I just have no idea how they keep getting away with this.
And then if you watch the way the press reports it, it's as if Jiffer never made statements about Virginia.
Jiffy never made statements about it.
They were quite content to report this without knowing who the victim was.
Well, everybody knew who the victim was.
And this idea of protecting her privacy, she wrote a book about this.
She's dead.
Did you know that you don't have privacy rights once you die?
Legally.
And I can't imagine why the family, except for being upset about this, she was stolen or employees were stolen by Epstein, which Trump has said was the case.
Now, I think Maxwell denies that.
And Maxwell also has testified under oath, although I can see why no one would want to believe her, right?
That Trump never had anything to do with the girls at all, didn't know about it and had nothing to do with it.
But in any event, she does dispute that they stole people from Mar-a-Lago, which Trump, you know, that Epstein was taking employees away.
But Trump is quite clear that the reason he got rid of him is because he was harassing the women who worked as Masseus, which is also corroborated by a former Times reporter, a Miami Herald reporter.
I mean, they have tried every which way for about eight years to involve Trump in something he didn't do.
He just didn't do it.
And today, the Democrats, you know, leave out the name of the person who you would have to know right away that people would go to it and see that the Democrats are lying.
So they leave her name out.
Like, we're not going to find out.
I mean, they're not only crooked and dishonest and anti-American and indecent, they're stupid.
But they get away with it because the press is completely in their pocket.
This should have led to like a tremendous outburst by the press of how they've been, how the Democrats made fools out of them.
They don't mind being fools as long as they can hurt Trump.
I mean, I read to you how the reporter asked a question.
I'm sorry, the lawyer asked the question.
When did Donald Trump fur with you?
Like, it's a fact.
He didn't under oath.
That's what's inaccurate.
Let's listen to the Caroline Levin responded to questions today.
She covers the whole thing.
These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong.
And what President Trump has always said is that he was from Palm Beach, and so was Jeffrey Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein was a member at Mar-a-Lago until President Trump kicked him out because Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and he was a creep.
And this email you refer to with the name of a victim that was unredacted now and has since been reported on in this room.
So I will go ahead and say it, Virginia Guffery.
And it was CBS's own reporting Ouija that recently wrote that Ms. Guffrey maintained, and God rest her soul, that she maintained that there was nothing inappropriate she ever witnessed, that President Trump was always extremely professional and friendly to her.
And so I think it's a question worth asking the Democrat Party.
And you should all go ask them after this briefing of why they chose to redact that name of a victim who has already publicly made statements about her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and is unfortunately no longer with us.
Now, I will say that some of the problem is caused because the hostile press has been given an opportunity to confuse it because of the different positions on releasing it and the statements of Attorney General Bondi about the horrible things that were in there.
And then the other statement, there's nothing that there's no evidence.
It confuses me.
But that doesn't, that confusion doesn't overcome the fact that the record is about as solid as it possibly can be that Trump had nothing to do with this crap.
And it comes right from the person they're trying to say he abused.
And then everybody else.
And there's clearly, I mean, and I want to go through the rest of the material that's now been put out.
Wolf was clearly conniving with Epstein also to try to frame him, if you read it, just like they try to put words in a Virginia's mouth.
Right.
So I don't know.
I mean, I have to imagine that there are real problems in putting out all of the material.
I know it sounds great, put out all the material.
But there can be a lot of names there of people who did nothing wrong.
And they're going to probably have their reputations ruined for the rest of their lives.
Because unless there's something clear in the material that the person was involved in that part of Epstein's life, Epstein had at least two lives.
And a lot of extraordinarily legitimate people would be involved in one part of it.
If you went to it, and I can say this, really care.
I don't remember Jeffrey Epstein.
I could have, I mean, I could have met him, but he wouldn't have meant anything to me.
I don't remember Jeffrey.
I remember vaguely when I first heard about these allegations, my first impression was he was a big money Democrat Clinton donor.
Now, I don't know if somebody told me that when it first came out, or I knew that, or that's the only thing I can associate with Jeffrey Epstein before the so-called hit the fan.
But I don't remember ever seeing him at a social occasion, or I've belonged to the golf club since 19, since 2000, 2001.
I guess he was still there, but I don't remember seeing him.
Or I wouldn't have known who he was if I saw him.
I mean, he wasn't really that famous.
Gee, I hate to disappoint him if he's in hell.
He might be hearing me.
But nor do I remember her.
But in any event, so that's why I would also doubt that he was a really good friend of Trump's.
There certainly was a lot of, I spent a lot of time there.
I don't remember ever seeing him with Trump, so I'm sort of where Virginia is.
Did you ever see him at the house?
No.
Did you ever see him on the boat?
No.
Did you ever see him on the ever see him on the plane?
No.
Did you ever see him on the island?
What's the basis for his being a good friend of Trump's?
Jeffrey told me that.
Well, there are other things going on in the world other than this.
We know that is the House back.
Have they all gotten back to the House?
They're all voting tonight, yes.
So they're all back, which is pretty good when you think about it, given all the plane problems.
Originally, Johnson had said it for noon today.
That was about a week ago when he said everybody should be alerted that they'd have to be back by noon on Wednesday as sort of a sticking point, you know, a point that you could rely on.
So they're all back by six.
And with a thousand planes being canceled, even today.
You know, it does surprise me.
We'll just, and this is an important subject too.
It surprises me how difficult.
Bloated that idea.
So I hope he does give them a bonus because I do think they're kind of special.
If they came in, didn't have to, and they went all that time without pay.
You know, a lot of people, if you're a person that has sufficient resources so you can go, you know, a reasonable period of time or even a long period of time without pay, you're not going to sympathize with somebody that's living paycheck to paycheck.
Now, somebody living paycheck to paycheck can be somebody who has $100,000, $200,000 income, but a couple of kids in a big city.
And this has been true long before Trump.
This isn't a criticism of Trump's cost of the cost of living has changed a little bit.
Hasn't material.
This is probably something he did.
Well, this is really one of the problems because he was intimidated into it.
And now they're whacking the hell out of him.
I mean, the Democrats are whacking the hell out of him.
I mean, the communist wing of the party, which is getting bigger and bigger, wants him out like that.
And then it gets beyond that.
On the House side, you've got a lot of the House is made up of two types of Democrats.
The absolutely out of control, hate America, love Hamas, love Islamic terrorists, and sound like reciters of Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto, reciters because somebody writes it out for them.
They're not smart enough to have read it or thought about it.
That's one group of Democrats.
And then the other group of Democrats are the ones who, we hope, disagree with that, but are too cowardly to do anything about it because they always remain united.
Now, there was a little break with Mondani, right?
So you had Schumer.
Chuck E. Cheese didn't endorse him, which I think is also part of the problem he's having now.
And who else didn't endorse him?
I guess Jeffrey's endorsed him at the last minute.
But boy, that's a profile and courage.
The guy comes from your city.
The guy comes from your borough.
He's a candidate for Democratic candidate for mayor.
And on the last day of the election, you say, I endorse him.
He was waiting to see if Cuomo would catch some steam.
I endorse him.
Yeah.
Right at the end when it was clear.
I mean, that's almost.
I mean, that's.
Hockey endorsed.
That's sort of like doing the worst of both worlds, right?
Hokle endorsed, but did not get an endorsement back.
So she got suckered into her endorsement of Mom Donnie.
Do you ever think that I'm right about her?
Yeah, you haven't written about her ever from the start.
That she's stupid.
She got played by.
Can you imagine endorsing a candidate who won't endorse you back?
And the guy is a candidate who you're going to have to fight with for the next nine months until you get thrown out as governor.
I mean, you may get beat Hoko Poco in a Democrat primary.
Didn't even think of that.
Suppose AOC, she's not, but suppose AOC ran against, who would win?
Right.
She would lose.
Yeah.
Hokle would lose.
Remember, you say, well, it's a statewide primary.
There's almost no Democrat Party upstate.
Upstate is heavily Republican.
Within a general election, the upstate and suburban vote can make up for the city vote, if it all goes right.
Like Pataki used to win, he actually won, I think, with less than 30% in the year that he beat Cuomo because he was a landslide, particularly in upstate New York, one of the biggest votes ever in upstate New York.
Then I think he got up.
George was a good governor.
He got up to and a fair governor, not a partisan governor, not a I can't remember what he got in the city, probably 31, 32%, 33%.
That's doable for a Republican, for a Republican.
It's not doable for a Democrat because the percentage of Democrats in the city command of the rest of the state is overwhelming.
Percentage of voters in New York, in the rest of the state, is much less.
So if you're going to wipe Hokul out in New York City, she's not going to be able to make it up in the suburbs or in, well, she's very unpopular in Nassau County, for example.
And she's very unpopular in Suffolk County.
And she's probably very unpopular in Westchester County because of the commute attacks that she went along with.
And those are places you're going to have to win if you lose New York City.
So I think she is very vulnerable, but I don't know who would be a good, well, Mandami came out of nowhere.
If you asked me a year ago, who would have been, who's the Democrat Socialist of America's candidate?
And if they have a chance of winning the election, I would have said, yeah, Nikita Khrushchev has a chance of winning.
I mean, they're a communist party.
The party that he belongs to, the party he's dedicated to, the party of his chief of staff that she is an enthusiastic member of, is a communist, anti-American party considered by intelligence estimates to constitute a danger to the national security of the United States.
The party that originally endorsed him and the one that he has spoken for, stands for, and now he's taken his chief of staff from that party.
He has a first deputy mayor who is a 74-year-old state hanger on.
All the usual suspects, state suck-up suspects, including the Republican suck-ups, say, oh, he has a great deal of experience.
I mean, one of the newspapers said he's extremely knowledgeable about the state's finances.
Well, then he should go to jail.
If he's really involved in the state finances, you put him in jail.
The state is bankrupt, sweetheart.
Completely bankrupt.
It's a disgrace.
And he also, he began his career working for a guy who was probably the biggest criminal in the history of Albany, Shelly Silver.
Shelly Silver spent the rest of his last years in jail.
Thank God.
Had he been put in jail 20 to 30 years earlier when he should have been, George Pataki would have been an even more successful governor because he blocked everything Pataki wanted to do.
And George would have to try to get it through this way and that way in some other way.
Shelly Silver also suffered from a second thing.
He was not just a complete absolute crook, he was a complete absolute liar.
You couldn't believe anything he said to you.
He would just directly lie to you right to your face.
At some point, the governor stopped, I think, meeting with him because it was useless.
He'd make an agreement and he'd go out and do the opposite.
And as the mayor, as the mayor, the delegation had to help New York because he wouldn't get reelected.
So I never had to treat him particularly nicely.
He needed me more than I needed him.
I won his district.
This is a Jewish district and I won it.
And they stupidly would vote for this crook also.
But I never suffered crooks gladly.
I just don't like them.
I mean, I put too many of them in jail to all like them.
And when they're in politics, I really think of them as scum.
And Albany is filled with them.
Wow.
I mean, they got enough money, they'd probably pass a bill to send their mothers to Siberia.
You never thought about running for governor?
I never did think.
Well, yeah, I did actually.
For a short time after I lost the mayoralty, and I got like 40 or 7 or 48% of the vote in New York City, all the Republicans said you should run for governor.
I mean, that number, even if you drop to 40%, you'll win by a landslide because Republicans win.
In those days, Republicans were winning the upstate New York by very large margins.
And I would have done particularly well in the suburbs because as the mayor of New York, I was more popular in the suburbs than I was in the city.
There wasn't the big Democratic vote in the suburbs that would be instinctually against you because you're brainwashed.
For example, I'll give you a great example.
And they thought I did this because I wanted to run for the Senate because Times can't imagine you would do this on principle.
When they had an exhibit at Brooklyn Museum, and they put up a painting of the Virgin Mary with live cow dung on it, which they throw on it every other day.
I said, take it down.
The city helps to support that museum.
It down and they wouldn't, and I took away their money.
And the New York Times accused me of violating the First Amendment and being a fascist and doing it because I wanted to ingratiate myself to upstate New York in the suburbs because I wanted to run against Hillary Clinton.
It was the furthest thing from my mind running running again.
I mean, I did think about running against Hillary Clinton, but not in connection with that.
I'd have done that if I wasn't running for anything.
I'm a Catholic.
I'm not the best Catholic in any.
I don't claim to be like, I don't wear the religion on my sleeve, or I've got a lot of sins.
But I have a particular devotion to the Virgin Mary.
I was going to be a Montfort priest.
The whole order is dedicated to the Virgin Mary.
Whether I was in full graces of the church or not at different times, I still always prayed to Jesus and particularly to the Blessed Mother.
And then I also thought, if I weren't a Catholic, I'd have done the same thing.
I mean, a lot of my constituents were Catholics.
This was just right after they had put up a painting of Muhammad as some kind of a warlord general in Chicago.
And Chicago ordered them to take it down.
Same thing I did with the Blessed Mother.
And everybody applauded the mayor of Chicago for protecting the Muslims.
And I thought, well, I mean, if they can do that for the Muslims, I can't do that for my own religion.
Well, I couldn't, according to the New York Times.
So, believe it or not, when they say my popularity sank before 9-11, this is the reason.
So, my popularity went down in the city.
You know where I was in the suburbs?
Like a 70-80%.
Yeah.
They were going crazy because people in the suburbs have, they left New York.
They remember some problems in some places.
They come from a Democratic place and then they vote.
People who left New York City back in those days knew exactly why they were leaving because New York City is a putrid city under Democrats.
Corrupt as hell.
Nobody can get a fair shake.
You're paying way too much money because they pay so many bribes.
And you want to get out of there.
And the schools stink.
Now the schools are actually twice as bad as they were then.
So we're going to take a break because I don't think we did.
We haven't taken our break yet.
Got to pay the bills.
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Well, you know, there's a lot of talk about affordability and prices and all of that.
But today, the Dow Jones hit a record.
Again, I think they hit a record yesterday or the day before.
And futures, which means tomorrow might exceed the record.
Right.
Now, I know a lot of people think, well, that doesn't affect cost.
That doesn't affect cost of living.
Do you have any idea how many people are invested in the stock market?
There's an unbelievably intelligent, really brilliant column, which if you're one of these people that doesn't understand socialism, it's only like, I don't know, four or five long paragraphs by Mark Skusen.
And he says, share the wealth.
Don't confiscate it.
He's basically condemning socialism.
Socialism is in vogue again.
Their solution, a highly progressive income tax or even a wealth tax on the super rich and a minimum wage of $20 an hour or more.
Well, first of all, you know what that's going to do to inflation?
Way up.
What he points out is that the private sector is quietly solving the inequality problem without more distribution and wage controls.
And they're doing it through 401ks.
More than half of private sector workers are actively contributing to and participating in employer-sponsored retirement plans.
So believe it or not, a lot of just regular workers, which is a good reason to get the hell off welfare, a lot of regular workers have become millionaires.
There's one company they highlight here, AutoZone, which was founded by Pitt Hyde.
And Mr. Hyde is one of the 400 wealthiest people in America.
And every one of their top executives are multi-millionaires.
However, 4,000 of their lower-level employees are millionaires also.
And they became millionaires by being part of the retirement program at AutoZone that he started years ago before a lot of other people understood the value of a 401k.
Autozone matches the employer contribution.
So an employer can double the value of its contribution up to 5%.
In the past 20 years, the company has returned an average annualized gain of 21%, which is double the S ⁇ P 500.
And every employee benefits.
And a lot of companies have turned into companies where they understand that the employees have to have a piece of the action.
Bill Gates offered Microsoft employees stock options so that by 2005, an estimated 12,000 rank and file employees, not executives, had already become millionaires.
And now they think, in addition to that, there are about another 30,000, including secretaries and janitors at Microsoft that have become millionaires.
Home Depot, Ken Langone organized this right at the very beginning.
They set up what they call, they have a name for it, future builder 401k programs.
They have 3,000 associates, not executives, associates who have become millionaires.
Numidia, you're not going to believe this, Dad.
They have 36,000 employees.
And according to their statistics, 80% of them are already millionaires.
Oh, wow.
And they didn't start as millionaires.
Right.
Good old-fashioned.
See the value of work?
Hard work and parents taught us.
Maybe some of these people were people that used to be on welfare, but through my work fair, they got their work ethic and they became millionaires.
I have people come up and down the streets thanking me for my work fair program, even apologizing.
They hated me for it back then.
The number one way Americans become millionaires isn't through timely real estate purchases, but being early investors in startups or being paid a living wage.
The formula is much simpler.
Consistent buying of company shares and stock indexes.
Democratic socialism is all about taxing successful entrepreneurs and eventually running out of money.
Democratic capitalism is all about increasing profit margins, sharing the wealth, and growing prosperous together.
I've said this many, many times.
There's no system, economic system, has ever brought more people out of poverty than American capitalism.
And I mean, you're going to follow assholes like AOC, the bartender, and Mamdani, the spoiled little rich boy, who probably never earned anything really in their lives.
I mean, AOC is probably a millionaire now that she's in politics.
I mean, look at Pelosi.
She went into politics.
She had a couple of million.
I mean, she did come from a politically hung family in Baltimore.
interesting Alessandro family.
But it was a couple.
Now she and her husband, who is the wisest investor in America, much better than any, I mean, if you can get him as your financial advisor, you can get really rich.
He's worth about half a billion dollars.
He always buys the stock at exactly the right time.
Did you know that?
He always buys the stock at exactly the right time.
Always.
Like, just uncanny.
It's uncanny.
Like, there's going to be an antitrust suit against a company, so he shorts the company.
And then he makes a fortune.
Or the government's going to give a company a huge amount of money to help with an expansion.
Nobody knows about it.
So he buys it because he just kind of dreams about it at night.
Like Nancy doesn't come home from Washington and tell him what she learned and then use the inside information.
No, Nancy would never do that.
I mean, she's the daughter of Mayor D'Alessandro.
Go read about him sometime or his brother.
You can figure out what she's all about.
Madam, shut up.
Or what a joke.
What a joke.
What a joke she is.
I mean, all this glory and honor for her.
What did she ever do for this country?
Ruin us.
All these budgets that are out of control, she supported all of them.
I mean, it's absurd.
So Trump is talking about a 50-year mortgage.
It's another piece of economic news that you should know, which would then put more people into houses.
The question is, and I really think this has to be thought about before you jump on top of it.
This is the way we got into trouble last time.
Clinton made a very unfortunate comment while he was president, and then it came back to kill us in 2009.
No, not 2009, 2008.
Yeah.
So Clinton said, everyone should own a home.
Everyone should own a home if they can afford it.
So everyone did own a home just about.
And the banks had loaned money to people that couldn't possibly pay back the loan.
And then we almost had a depression.
And we thought we had put in a security against that.
I don't know if you should get a home if you have to take a 50-year mortgage.
I don't know if you shouldn't wait, try to find less housing you can afford and work your way up and get a normal 20, 30-year mortgage that you have a chance of paying off.
You know, I guess you could pay off a 50-year mortgage in your lifetime.
You end up paying like twice the amount of money you borrow.
You're going to be way ahead of inflation, meaning you're going to lose by doing that.
So I understand the need for getting more people into homes and making it easier for people to buy homes, but I don't know if you completely unravel the protection system that we have for borrowing money, because that's that that can lead to a cat, that could lead to a catastrophe uh, and we may be already sort of in that territory.
So I don't think i'd want to go that way.
I think the way i'd want to go is and this isn't going to cure inflation right away, I suspect over the next year, if not already, wages have gone up.
All this money coming into the United States, all this new business there's, going to mean big jump in wages and I bet a year from now we'll be where Trump was in his first administration, where we have uh records, like we have record on the, on the, on the, in the, in the market.
We're going to have records for, for uh salary increases, particularly for poor people.
Remember last time uh, the lower end of the economic spectrum.
Their wages went up by two and three times the.
In my case it was um, it sort of turned about a year and a half somewhere in 1995, but it didn't start to get realized until 1996.
Now I always place it as when the Yankees won the World Series in 1996.
But by that time, the economy was really, really doing very, very well.
So when I went into a reelection in 97, I won by a landslide.
Now, if that hadn't happened, they'd have thrown me out.
And you can only force it so much.
Nobody knows this better than Donald Trump.
So I would be careful about doing anything radical.
He's doing all the right things.
It takes a while for a tax cut to have effect.
Psychologically, this tax cut didn't have much of an effect because really it was more the preservation of tax cuts.
And it's hard to get all psychologically high on the fact that you avoided catastrophe, which is what happened with the big beautiful bill.
So we're going to go over to X.
And I really want you to come over because there were the pardons the other day, but the Democrats are still doing the same thing they did then when they tried to frame the president, frame me, frame all these really nice people who did nothing wrong.
And last night, I think we pretty much demonstrated with the pardon attorney's report that this whole thing about the electors was like a complete farce.
Yeah.
A fraudulent farce.
So just as bad as Hunter Biden's hard drive and the censorship that took place.
Well, you go over to X, we'll be there.
And don't forget, tomorrow at noon, you go to X, hit subscribe, and you'll have my interview with Michael Francisi, which is the beginning or the reintroduction of my podcast.
I think you'll find the interview fascinating.
The man was a very high-level member of the mafia, and he's been totally straight for the last 25 years.
And how that happened is a great lesson for all of us.
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