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Sept. 30, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Tuesday, September 30, 2025
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Good evening.
If you see me looking that way during the show tonight, that's because the Yankees are playing the Red Sox.
And I'm an obsessive, compulsive Yankee fan for eighty one years.
Even before I knew I was a Yankee fan.
My father made me a Yankee fan.
He brought me home from the hospital as I did with my son in a Yankee uniform in the middle of Brooklyn when the Dodgers were there.
That's why I had to learn how to box to keep myself alive.
It's really true.
Nobody believes it that I was once almost strung up on a tree in Brooklyn, saved by my grandmother yelling at the bullies who were trying to do it to me.
As I was fighting back to save my life.
Not quite that dramatic, but right now, um right now the umpire made a bad call against the Yankees.
But it's still one-nothing Yankees, and it is in the fourth inning, and it looks to me like there are two out.
Okay.
Now, starting tonight, it looks that way, it has to be, I can't see how they get it done before tonight.
Starting tonight at about, well, exactly 11:59 tonight, there's a partial government shutdown.
So exactly what gets shut down is a determination and a calculation of, are they exceeding the debt limit and by how much?
And therefore, when they say a government shutdown, it would probably take about 10 or 12 days to become a complete government shutdown.
Believe it or not, maybe even longer, but the Democrats don't want to tell you this because all the money, of all the unanticipated money being brought in by the tariffs that have put this date off until this, this should have been happening in June or July.
It's because it Trump's tariffs that we're making more money than we've made in a very, very long time.
Now, here's why I know you're going to think I'm out of my mind, but I'm rooting for the shutdown.
I'm rooting for the shutdown because there's a chance to straighten things out.
I once had something like a shutdown when I was mayor and I probably was my second best ever in terms of being of success and cutting government.
My best was my first two years, but this was in my sixth or seventh year as mayor.
And I had about five or six months where I could impound spending.
And boy, I cut everything you could imagine and nobody even noticed.
In fact, the city was getting awards for better services.
We had less people.
So, you've got to, Russ Voight, you have a head of OMB.
He's gotten much less attention than the OMB director usually gets, but he now becomes probably the second most powerful person in government to the president.
And, you know, powerful in that the president, of course, makes all the decisions, but there are a lot of, I wouldn't call them little decisions.
They aren't to the people in the agencies, but it just doesn't get to the president.
So he'll, he'll get to determine the first cut on who goes, who doesn't.
And, Emergency, necessary personnel can never be cut.
I mean, there's a certain and there's and then, but then there's a different level of what's considered essential and what isn't.
Right now it's going to be kind of loose.
And as we move along, last the last government shutdown, I really followed very, very closely because I was Donald Trump's lawyer then.
I was basically living in Washington.
And he stayed in Washington during the Christmas holidays.
So it gave us a good deal of time to prepare his case.
And it gave us a good deal of time to walk around a white house.
And uh we got through the 35 days, didn't we?
And we're we we had uh the strongest economy in the world, and we continued to, and it just kept growing.
And it was the pandemic that hurt things, not the shutdown.
Arguably the shutdown may have helped.
And I think that Russ, avoid, has been aiming for, I mean, I uh Schumer hasn't made a right decision in a long, long time.
I think he's really losing it.
And also him and the other guy getting so angry about that um what do you call those things?
Was that a that wasn't a meme.
That was what?
That was a a short video.
A video, yeah.
But it was fun.
Look, if you didn't laugh at that, you don't have a if they did that to me, I if they put something on my head like that, I'd laugh my head off.
And by the way, I'll tell you that they're losing it.
Schumer's losing it as a politician.
Whenever people made fun of me, no matter how vicious it was, they always came back with a sarcastic response that would meet their, you know, what they did.
Maybe I do one on Trump as an answer.
Right.
I'd say, okay, you want to play that game?
Two can play that game and have Trump uh, you know, say, this is the president of the United States.
Um I'm here to tell you everybody's fired.
There will be no government but me, or something like that.
Yeah.
But come back with a joke.
Don't come back with this shows that he's a racist.
Racist.
They had him dressed up as a Mexican.
How's that racist?
But every everything you do to make fun of a guy who's black in politics is you can't make fun of a guy in politics who's black.
You can only make fun of white people.
Well, who said that?
It was damn funny, and it was all true.
That's why it was funny.
It's the first time Schumer has told the truth.
I don't know, maybe ever.
I uh I remember even back when he was not such a bad guy.
He wasn't particularly honest about telling the truth.
The other kind of honest, I I will not speak to three ready.
Let's get S O T three.
Well, we're we're gonna get SOT three ready.
We have the video that the president uh posted.
Do we want to um we want to well let's play Jeffrey's first?
So let's let's play one.
Oh no, no, we played that, we played that yesterday.
But if we mean uh you you like to call him uh Barack Obama.
Dollar store.
No, no, no, not Brock Jr. because that wasn't Dollar Obama, specifically Dollar Store Obama, which he speaks in a cadence, too.
Have you noticed?
Right.
Right.
It's like he's trying to racist.
I'm making fun of him.
Well, that's the thing.
I take it back.
I'm not we're not playing that game.
We're allowed to make fun of yeah, exactly.
Let's make fun of Schumer.
We may all right.
Well, Schumer, the guy used to the the used to say the most dangerous place in Washington was between Schumer and a camera.
Not anymore.
Now that might be the safest time he's spoken in two years.
That's the safest screwing his own people.
Well, here's the video that got uh all the Democrats, they got we got them all hot.
You don't laugh at this.
If you don't laugh at this, I don't know.
Code it hope.
Nobody likes Democrats anymore.
We have no voters left because of all of our woke trans bullshit.
Not even black people want to vote for us anymore.
Even Latinos hate us.
So we need new voters.
And if we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us.
They can't even speak English.
So they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of shit, you know, at least for a while until they learn English and they realize they hate us, too.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Thank you.
Bad, bad, bad.
Bad.
They're responsible, their very hilarious response, showing that they have no sense of humor at all.
Yeah, we're gonna get that ready next.
But I mean to to go serious on that tells you, and Schumer is lost.
He doesn't know what to do.
If he doesn't go along with the shutdown, which he doesn't want to do, he's gonna he believes he's gonna lose the base of his party, the left-wing base, it's all left wing.
Um the other hand, he's been through this often enough to know that the way you position this is often who gets to blame for it.
And Trump is a master at this.
He didn't get any heat for government closing down last time.
He's a lot more popular now than he was then.
He's gonna he's gonna turn it around and find a way to do something very, very uh much to further his agenda, like uh just get rid of the people permanently.
Uh there's not much uh exercise of control over them when you don't have the power of the person any longer.
So basically the government is in emergency mode.
And I don't know, you could take them to court, but I think, you know, well, you'll win, you'll win with the uh crooked democratic judges, but then you'll lose with the real judges.
So I mean, he can he can make a big slice in the government, and and what they're asking for is inherently ridiculous to the American people.
It has to be that they don't want to agree to extending for what is it, two months, three months.
As is, no changes, nothing added, nothing subtracted.
Republicans had a hard time.
I mean, the president had to really fight for that because a lot of Republicans wanted a cut.
They wanted a they wanted a resolution that cut the budget going forward.
Because they said, you know, by even agreeing to going forward on this basis, we're eating the prior overspending.
Well, okay, if you have to eat the prior overspending, let's put cuts in to make up for it.
The Democrats want to do the opposite.
So the Republicans did nothing.
They didn't add, they didn't subtract, which was a compromise for them.
There are some Republicans that still might not vote for it for that reason.
But in any event, the Democrats want to add, it's hard to tell exactly.
The immediate hit it'd probably be 400 billion more.
Beyond what they have to do to get past the crisis.
It adds up to like a couple of tr uh trillion and a half or so, as you go out on a 10-year basis.
So it adds significantly to the debt.
And what's it for?
It's for uh people who don't work, keeping their health care, even though they can work, or for people who do work and elect not to take employer health care and let you pay for it.
Did you know that?
Uh a very large percentage of people, much larger than ever before, now turn down employer health care.
And they take Medicaid instead because they don't have to pay for it.
They don't have to pay even whatever the deductible might be, or if there's some charge to them by the employer, even though that health care might be better.
Probably is better.
Now, there's a very large percentage of people like that.
They want to fund that.
They also want to fund health care for the illegals, which is absurd Because you don't you don't uh have health care only for the illegals who haven't committed rape, murder, arsenic, human trafficking, drug trafficking.
They all get health care too.
And you're paying for it.
And they want to close down the government over that.
I assure you there'll be plenty of ads on television about that, and it'll be blamed.
It'll be blamed on the Democrats.
Just another another.
This this is one where I I do believe that in the interest of um just good government.
The president is pro Schumer is probably right.
When he came out of the meeting yesterday, uh, and this is why he got slapped in the face.
He criticized the president.
He said, Oh, we told the president things he didn't know.
Well, first of all, I doubt it.
And if he did, you're gonna criticize, you make it sound like he's not knowledgeable about his government.
You don't think he's gonna hit your back, Chucky?
And make you cry, which is what you did.
Because what you said, nobody believes or cares.
Of course there are probably things the president doesn't know.
He's not God.
And maybe it isn't things he didn't know.
You have a different interpretation.
But in any event, you started it.
If you wanted to keep up a good relationship, you walk out and you say that we had a we had we didn't reach an agreement, but we made some progress, or we didn't make any progress, or we're far apart, or but uh he didn't even want to see you.
So I mean he he hit you back.
Kind of funny.
So we're going to we're going to um I mean we'll we'll we're gonna have um two congressmen on.
I but I think it's in the next hour, and we'll get an idea from them.
But I I I would think it's pretty it's pretty safe to say that uh we're at the point where government's gonna have to shut down tonight.
Right.
We do have Cara standing by at the White House.
Okay, Cara, can we put her on now?
Yeah.
Hey, Mr. Mayor, how are you?
I'm good.
Uh we're here at the White House.
Everyone's preparing for the shutdown.
I I well, everyone's preparing.
It seems that it's go moving in that direction.
So we'll see what happens.
Uh tomorrow there is a briefing.
Caroline Levitt is having a briefing tomorrow, from what I understand.
It seems like they're preparing for that right now to really, I guess, update the nation on what's going on and these ridiculous uh you know demands the Democrats are making, trying to resurrect Obamacare, which is set to expire, as you know, in 2025, and demanding basically health care for all that includes illegals for all people, they said, uh without saying it's for illegal aliens.
And uh really it's just uh unacceptable, I think, Mr. Mayor.
So that that's a lot of uh what's going on at the White House today.
As you saw President Trump, a lot of media he did today.
He spoke to tremendous amount of reporters, uh signed executive orders.
He was at the Pentagon, Brighton, I'm sorry, Quantico Brighton early, speaking to the generals.
So he had a really long day.
And I hope, Mr. Mayor, he has some energy left for tomorrow, because I'm in the press pool tomorrow, so hopefully he will have some energy left to sign some more executive orders and and to talk to the media.
I will guarantee you he'll be in better uh mood if the Yankees win tonight.
I hope the Yankees win.
If that means President Trump will be taking questions from media tomorrow.
I have a quick Go ahead, Mr. Mayor.
I would I would guarantee you, like me.
See, I I have the game on here.
I guarantee you he's got the game on.
I guarantee you.
Yeah, you know him well, you know him better than me, so I used to go to the gays with him a lot.
I mean he is a very close friend.
He was a very close friend of George Steinberg, and so was I. Okay.
So we have a long history with the Yankees.
But uh I lived through the last shutdown with him in uh in 1819, January, uh December 18, January 19 for 35 days.
And I can't remember anything bad happening as a result of it.
Except I can't either.
And from right, and from what I understand, all of those government workers that are put on hold do get paid.
Congress passed a bill, so they will get a very large check at the end of it, and in the meantime, have a nice vacation, I guess, where they're home.
So from what I understand, I hear behind the scenes, people are sort of cheering this on because they want to take a little bit of a break uh from work.
So uh, you know what, we'll see what happens and where this plays politically.
I don't think it's looking good for the Democrats because uh really the narrative is not in their favor and they're really really not uh looking good.
Uh there is a couple things I wanted to share with you regarding the shutdown of Senator Thun's Senator Thune today.
If you guys could play that Senator Thune uh soundbite that we have speaking about the shutdown earlier today.
It's a bill that's passed by the the House, sitting here in the Senate, ready to be signed in law by the president.
And um, so no, it's up it's up to the Senate Democrats.
That's where we are.
And if they decide to vote it down tonight, uh they're gonna be the ones that have to explain at midnight tonight why the government shut down.
It's just it's it's really pretty straightforward.
And this is something again that's been routine around here for a long time until all of a sudden the uh far left, the Senator Barroso pointed out, hijacked the Democrat leadership here in the Senate, and they've decided to hijack the um American people and hold them hostage to try and get a laundry list, a wish list, a Christmas list of their left-wing priorities attached in their case to a four-week continuing resolution.
Our ours is seven weeks, but they'll have the same leverage seven weeks from now that they have today.
And as I've said before, we're happy to sit down with them and talk about the the concerns they have, the issues they have with the So that was Senator Thune, and I think that the Democrats are confused.
They think they have some sort of bargaining power.
You know, they right now Republicans control uh all three branches of government, and they were voted out because of the ridiculous policies like the ones that they're trying to push right now, and they just have no bargaining power.
So it like I said, it should be interesting how that this plays out.
Uh, President Trump, like I mentioned earlier, Mr. Mayor, also spoke about the shutdown earlier today.
Here's President Trump in the Here's President Trump in the Oval Office today talking about the shutdown.
We could come up and and through this whole thing, you know, because I don't know, we'll probably have a shutdown because w one of the things they want to do is they want to give uh incredible Medicare Cadillac, the Cadillac Medicare to illegal immigrants.
And what that does is it keeps them coming into our country, and like they do in California, and no country can afford that.
No country.
And we have the border stopped up, we have it closed, we have nobody for four months, zero, zero people came in.
That wasn't me that's be by the authorities who happen to be liberally oriented.
But but just think of that.
We have people offering health care to people all over the world that they can't afford to pay, and that's the Democrats.
And what happens, what that does is it brings people into the country because they want to come in for the health care, but no country can afford it, and they can't afford it.
So we we uh cannot allow them to uh charge tremendous amounts of money for health care for people that aren't even citizens, and in many cases they come in from prisons, jails, and mental institutions, and we can't let that happen.
So it seems to me that this is just another they just keep doing this.
They keep uh opposing him on things that are 60, 40, 70, 30, 80, 20.
But I think actually they don't know what to do.
So they're just throwing everything up against the wall.
Maybe they're trying to change the momentum by shutting down government.
But it's crazy, and they're uh yes.
Go ahead, Mr. Mayor.
But I think I think that uh Russ Voigt, the head of OMB has a plan, which is to get rid of a lot of the workers permanently.
Right.
Right.
I think that uh you know that that is part of the plan.
So Democrats are sort of playing with fire right now because uh, you know, obviously the the more federal employees the better, and the more taxpayer dollars spent the better when it comes to Democrats, unfortunately.
That's just the modern day.
Uh there was that parody video that you had uh shown earlier.
I had that one cued up for you of the Democrats of Schumer and Jeffries who were here at the White House.
They didn't take questions, but they made a statement.
So you already played that parody video that went viral, went really viral.
Hakeem Jeffrey's had a reply to President Trump uh today.
It seemed to me like it was straight out of WWE.
It's like a game to these people.
It literally seemed like he needs a better acting coach.
Here's Hakeem Jeffrey's uh feigned outrage at President Trump.
And Mr. President, the next time you have something to say about me.
Don't cop out the racist and fake AI video.
When I'm back in the Oval Office, say it to my face.
Say it to my face.
It's so funny, Mr. Mayor.
I don't know if you found it's say it to my face.
It's very it's humorous.
Because you made fun of me because I'm black.
You're a racist.
You're a racist.
You made fun of me because I'm black.
I mean it's ridiculous.
Nothing racist about it.
Right.
I mean, like it was a dope.
Good taste or it could have been in good taste or bad taste.
Effective or ineffective.
Nothing racist about putting a Mexican hat on.
Wait.
What's racist?
Exactly.
You can't make fun of black guys.
Yeah, no, I 100% agree.
I it's it's it's it's falling on deaf ears.
So that's every that's the update with the shutdown, Mr. Mayor.
And then uh we had a, like I said, a long day earlier today.
It already feels like it's old news, but President Trump made a really big announcement regarding big pharma and stopping price gouging.
They have been ripping off Americans, as you know, for too long.
And so many presidents have tried in the past to fix this, but the reality is, and I figured this out today, because these European countries are not allowed to take donations, politicians from uh from big pharma, uh, they are able to actually negotiate better with these big pharma companies, and U.S. presidents and US politicians are able to take these massive donations, therefore they have a conflict of interests.
So President Trump is putting an end to that.
I have a quick package for you.
Please uh take a watch.
For decades, Big Pharma ripped off American families with top dog Pfizer charging us triple what Europe and other nations pay for the exact same medicine.
They got away with it because wealthy foreign governments negotiated tough bargains with big pharma while compromised American leaders let it slide.
Past presidents and Congress talked tough but never acted, letting Big Pharma bleed the American people dry while padding their own campaign coffers, all at the expense of we the people.
Today, President Trump made a deal with Pfizer to slash prices here at home.
For many years, Americans have paid the highest prices anywhere in the world for prescription drugs.
They paid far more.
Ten times, 13 times, 15 times more than other countries for the exact same product.
A major reason is that the American consumers have been subsidizing research and development costs for the entire planet.
They put all of that on us, and yet they were the beneficiaries too.
So it's being changed as of today.
For the first time, Europe and other nations will have to pay their fair share instead of freeloading off the backs of Americans.
We got here by incompetent people sitting behind this desk.
We had a lot of incompetent period people.
Other countries are paying a fraction of what we pay for the same exact drug, same exact pharmaceutical everything.
And I said, No, that's not right.
And the drug companies actually came along.
You know, don't we get they make 30, 40, 50 million a year, these people were very smart, and they had a lot of people convinced that you know that's the way it has to be.
They talk about research and development, we had to pay.
I said, Well, why isn't Germany paying?
Why aren't other countries pay?
And they always had a good answer, but it got to a point where I didn't like the answer anymore.
And I said, We have to do this, and we did it.
Pfizer will try to make up the difference by selling more volume here at home at lower prices and pressing Europe and Asia to finally cover their part of the tab.
Experts say the era of gouging Americans and global freeloading may finally be coming to an end.
Very good.
Very well done.
I have to tell everyone, in the interest of honesty and fairness, for a period of time I represented Pfizer, along with Judge Buchave in private practice.
And we helped to draft their guidelines in order to comply with federal regulations.
But they are the biggest, I think they're by far the biggest drug company.
So by getting them to go along, he kind of forces the others to come along.
And even if even if he just gets them and the Medicaid cuts, this will be massive.
He'll get the rest of them, just like he gets the countries to come along.
I mean, he is absolutely masterful.
I never I never thought I just did you see Robert F. Kennedy uh looking at the head of Pfizer and basically saying we we never agree at anything before.
Right.
Yes, it was a pretty interesting exchange.
Well, thanks a lot.
And good luck tomorrow.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Have a great night.
Have a great show.
Get one of those questions.
Get him one of those questions that goes viral, Cara.
Remember?
She's terrific.
So we're going to take a short break and we will come right back.
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Well, welcome back.
It's still one nothing.
I think we're they finished five innings.
Uh what we would call a pitcher's duel between um between the Yankees and the Red Sox, Crochet and Max Fried.
Both of them superb pitchers and both left-handers.
And both teams probably are uh particularly the Yankees are made up mostly of left-handed hitters who have a little more trouble with left-handed pitchers.
Red Sox, too.
So that might account for the one-nothing score.
The one home run from Anthony Volpe, who's a right-handed batter.
And right handers have a harder time hitting home runs in Yankee Stadium.
But that gets that gets neutralized with a good left-handed pitcher.
Well, if that's what you wanted to know about baseball, here's what you want to know about what I was saying to Cara before.
So I went and got the statistics that were in the journal today.
So there are 74% of people are eligible, of workers are eligible for health insurance from their employers.
That's up from 71% in 2019.
Okay.
However, in 2019, 73% of the people that were eligible took it.
That's now down to 65%.
So that's a big drop.
And we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people here that could be getting insurance from their employer, but are getting it from the government, which is supposed to give insurance only to people that are in desper desperate need of insurance and can't work.
So when you add that to the people who can work who don't, who are getting insurance, and the people who do work and are freeloading off the government and the illegals, that is a ridiculous amount of wasted money that is gonna that is going to jeopardize health care and is jeopardizing sufficient health care for the people who deserve it.
But the Democrats don't give a damn.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
I mean, that's this has been the problem with Obamacare from the beginning.
It was hastily done, stupidly engineered, never read, and jiggered around, and Trump ultimately saved it because he had no other choice.
It would have been a catastrophe if we didn't.
Now you can phase it out.
And that's what they're in the process of doing, and that's where the Democrats are fighting.
Uh, and that's why they're gonna hold that's why they're gonna shut down your government.
Fabulous.
Uh the peace plan.
So as we wait for the government to shut down, we wait for Hamas to decide.
But I want you to consider what Trump has accomplished.
It's really uh unbelievable.
And there's a column in the Wall Street Journal today, uh, which you have to, you have to, you have to read it.
You have got to read it.
If you don't read it, I'll be very upset with you.
And it's by Walter Russell Mead.
And Walter Russell Mead, you might remember during the campaign at times was very, very critical.
Very, very critical of Trump.
And uh I a couple of times, you know, objected to him and said some things.
In any event, I now agree with Walter Russell Mead.
Uh He basically, what a week.
On Gaza, President Trump pledged to Arab leaders on September 23rd that he wouldn't allow Israel to annex any portion of the West Bank.
His interpretation of that is that it opened a new chapter that brought along all the Arab countries that he could hook on to the agreement that he made with Netanyahu.
So now he has an agreement on peace for Gaza and for the Palestinian territories, right?
That is agreed to by everyone, all of the Arab countries.
Iran is not an Arab country, by the way.
All of the Arab countries, except the Palestinians who aren't a country, and Hamas.
So what has he done?
He shifted the focus from Israel, who you know gets bad publicity like he does no matter what.
But now it's quite clear that Hamas can have peace if it wants it.
Just like Arafat could have had a Palestinian state if he really wanted one, but he wanted money instead.
And uh it's 50-50 as to whether the Hamas is going to agree to the deal.
I know you would, because they're probably gonna I mean Bibi looked to me like when Trump said, you know, and if they don't agree, then Israel can do whatever it wants and it'll have my blessing.
I I thought I detected Bibi going like this.
Because I think the Israelis, because this is hard for him, selling this creates the hope of an eventual some kind of Palestinian state.
It's a hope, not a promise.
There's not a there's a vague road to it in the 20-point agreement, not a specific road to it, and it is to a very large extent, it's not completely under his control, but we don't know who's going to succeed him, right?
So Israel and certainly his supporters in Israel, if not a majority of the Israelis, would prefer a wipeout of Hamas, because if they're wiped out, then they can't kill Jews, right.
Uh no matter what kind of an agreement you have, it can always be broken, right?
So Bibi, I think very intelligent, went along with it, and maybe he's secretly hoping that they don't agree so he can have both.
Let's see what happens.
But um some people interpret it as if they have 72 hours to decide.
I think it's 72 hours starts to run when the agreement is reached, and then the hostages have to be returned.
I don't think there's a specific, I don't think there's a specific time frame, but I'll I'll check that uh during the intermission just to make sure.
But in any event, uh I don't think they've got a long time to decide this.
And if they don't, then he sits back, and Israel Israel's already there.
They're already occupying, is it 100% of the of Palestine or probably 95%, maybe 90%.
So to accomplish what they have to accomplish is not going to be, it's not gonna be impossible.
So as he accomplished that, he also accomplished a very similar thing as Walter Russell Meade points out, uh, with regard to regard to Ukraine.
He is now put, he has now become a full and complete supporter of uh uh of his European allies and Ukraine, with the European allies out front and America in the background.
Now notice America has to do nothing in either one of these situations.
Israel, if that fails, Israel gets a chance to wipe out Hamas.
If Russia doesn't agree, then America now is selling and more importantly, giving permission to Ukraine to use to the full extent that it has it, the arms that they have, which should at a minimum hold uh uh Russia to no more gains and may very well,
as happened before when Ukraine was able to go on the offensive, win back some of that territory and create serious economic problems for Putin.
So I would call this Trump's razzle dazzle.
Um the way Russell explains it, he says what he has done is flipped the script in both cases.
By pivoting toward the Ukrainians, he's flipped the script and put Putin in the position of it's your move and and you're responsible for whatever happens.
He's flipped the script on in the Middle East, uh the finger of blame was on Israel, to some extent on the United States.
Now he slipped it clearly to Hamas.
And uh it probably, even if Hamas doesn't agree, and Israel has to go about making them agree or wiping them out, the Arab countries will not uh go along with that.
They'll probably condemn Israel, but that's all they'll do.
Because I would think, having all agreed, if Hamas doesn't agree, what the heck are they saying?
Why are they letting Hamas run the run uh drive the train?
It's it's it's a terrorist group.
None of them, none of them, none of them that just agreed to this, none of the Arab countries agree, is willing to take a single Palestinian.
Not even Qatar, uh Qatar, you gotta pay him out of money to take.
And I think at this point, they're uh they they be they they probably regret having done it, particularly after what Israel did, which uh, by the way, he actually got he actually got um BB.
He didn't apologize, but he called the Prime Minister of Qatar or Qatar, have it whichever way you want, Qatar or Qatar.
And he um he said he had a good conversation with him, and he regretted what Israel had to do.
I don't know what that means, regretting it.
Oh, and he said he won't do it again.
I won't do it again.
Which I was a little which I was a little bit disappointed in because he may have to do it again if they don't get rid of those.
Maybe maybe they've agreed to get rid of those terrorists, because uh cutter doesn't cutter when you see where all the other Arab countries are going, uh there was a point at which it might have made sense, I don't think morally, but you know uh from the point of view of tactics, it might have made sense to play both sides against the middle.
I don't think there's any there's any room for both sides against the middle at this point.
Um if we could use rational principles of analysis, I would predict to you that Hamas is going to agree, because they have no other choice.
But we can't.
They're not rational.
Terrorist groups aren't rational.
There wouldn't be terrorist groups if they were.
And uh they don't necessarily make decisions even in their own best interest, because they are ruled by, in their case, uh insane ideology, Islamic extremism, which is as dangerous as communism.
Not more, but as Trump now has uh slipped troops into both Port well Portland.
I'm not uh I'm not sure they're there yet.
But do we have any we have any um we have any any uh video on the troops that the president has put in Chicago and in Portland uh to support ICE?
So remember what the basis for this is.
Neither one of these two so-called governors um uh is agreeing.
Uh Newskum, of course, I don't even know if he's actually the governor, he's probably at some restaurant somewhere or a hairdresser or something.
Uh And the other guy is probably trying to see if he can move.
But the two of them do don't want uh the troops.
But you know, Trump has the responsibility of making sure that his federal agents are protected.
They're not being protected.
Look the way ICE attacks on ice agents have gone up a thousand percent, a thousand percent.
So the troops are there, and he has every right to put them there to protect them.
And it's gonna make a it's gonna make a difference.
In Chicago, they're uh rounding up just large, large numbers of illegals.
Um maybe it'll help.
Maybe one of these days, uh, each weekend will become a uh uh uh a killing zone.
This weekend I think it was four and eighteen or twenty, I think.
And four is about as good as good as it's gonna get.
Uh meanwhile, I still will never forget.
I think it was Bob, was it Schmidt who said this on Newsmax?
Yeah, Chicago uh how do these cities pick the dumbest man in the city to be mayor?
Well, that's sure true of Chicago.
It could be true of rumbling, bumbling word salad Mondani, which I will demonstrate, which I will demonstrate to you at 8 o'clock when we go over to X, because I'm gonna unless I get to it now, we'll see.
Uh but do we have any any anything to show the troops that are there?
Yeah, we're putting up video right now that's uh true.
That looks like that look that looks like Chicago.
Right.
That's all we have, yeah.
This was a bit of a surprise.
I mean, he really slipped these in.
Uh the the ones in Portland he announced, uh describing Portland really as uh an occupied foreign foreign enterprise.
And if you know people from Portland who haven't been killed or injured, so they can't talk, they'll tell you that.
I I uh this was about a year, maybe longer ago, uh, before he was president, but I was sitting sitting in an outdoor restaurant in Manhattan, and uh an Italian restaurant with friends, and these two men, uh these two young men came up to me, and they um they were from they were from Portland.
They started telling us how terrible it was there, that there's no longer a government that uh Antifa runs the government of Portland.
This was a year ago, a year and a half ago.
And um I think that you know we had um Andy Noah on last week, and I think he described that in pretty in pretty solid detail.
Yeah.
So that's that's the Chicago group.
It's a smaller number in Chicago.
Uh in Portland, in Portland, they may just be they may just be being deployed, Ted.
You may not be all there yet, or even there yet.
Right.
But that that's important.
Uh taking, I mean, this is important too.
But it's really important to try to take uh Portland back.
Since since um since they took it over as a what what did they call it?
A free zone or uh whatever the hell they call it during the during the Floyd uh riots.
It's never really been given back.
And of course, since there really is no government in in California, uh I mean in our in Oregon, uh they don't take it back.
I think of all as California, don't you?
Oregon, Washington, it's like they're I think uh Oregon, I think, really suffers from uh uh massive amounts of cannabis in the air, where even if you're the straightest person in the world, you're probably high.
Right.
And your brain is getting deteriorated by it because they smoke it so much.
Right.
Oregon actually, even though it's left wing was thinking of changing the laws back and tightening up on cannabis because there are so many traffic accidents.
And many people being killed.
You know, at the with the traffic accidents.
Now, I don't know, I don't know if they have actually followed through on that.
Being Democrats, I would doubt it because they never follow through on anything.
Right.
Ted, the Michigan shooting.
Yes.
Which is a really, really strange, weird.
I mean, he here, this guy, Thomas Jacob Sanford, is a Marine.
He was deployed in Iraq twice.
Seems to have had a good record in the military.
Yeah.
There he is with one of the stars of dancing with the stars or you have talent of Kelly Pickler.
Who?
Kelly Pickler.
Yeah, but who I don't watch Why I really not.
What was that?
It's one of those.
I think she was a singer.
Oh, she was a singer on who has talent or American Idol, maybe.
American Idol are the video.
I think this photo is from the video music awards.
Sorry, the country music awards.
That photo specifically is from 2012 and the CMT Awards.
So he he he uh he left the military as a sergeant.
He worked at a Coca-Cola bottling center in Flint until 2021.
After that, we don't know his history yet.
Um he has he he was married.
He has one son, a young son.
On the day of the uh uh killings, he uh drove a pickup truck, he drove it into the church, he got out of the vehicle, and he started firing a rifle.
Uh he killed four people, uh a number were injured, and then he started pouring gasoline uh around the truck and in the in the church and lighting it up.
And we don't know if they were um and and apparently the church was made of pretty much made of wood.
So it went up, it went up very, very uh quickly.
It seems like uh it is pretty well documented from a number of sources that he had some kind of uh hatred of if it whether it was the Mormon church or that particular Mormon church, I can't tell you.
Uh I think both.
Uh telling people that um it's not a Christian religion, uh it's anti-Christian, it's it's a blasphemous religion, whatever.
And this may have come from some kind of problem in his marriage.
It's just a uh it's just un unbelievable how all of this happens at you know at once, and you do wonder about the power of suggestion.
Now I'm I'm sort of uh uh and some of it related to the political rhetoric, but then there are a lot of people out there who who are crazy no matter what.
And um something like this sets them off.
So there are the group of people who say you shouldn't give this a lot of publicity, because maybe that's what they're looking for.
But that's not that's not a universally true.
They're all of them looking for publicity.
There's no indication that this guy, well, this guy was necessarily looking for publicity.
Looks like he wanted to kill Mormons.
Whether it was that particular church or not, that was the closest one to him.
Uh uh I don't know whether he cared whether he got publicity or not.
And I think it's important that these get publicity uh because it's the only way that we're going to straighten this out as we come to understand it better and what has to really be done about it.
I mean, this this is not a a uh I mean this is this is uh this is I mean, yes, he did use a rifle, but then he burned the whole place down.
So this is not a gun control situation.
Uh that was going up in smoke one way or the other.
Right.
Uh As you know, Eric Adams has dropped out of the mayor's race in New York, which now uh leaves it up to uh the communist, who's ahead,
uh the failed uh governor who had to resign uh under scandalous circumstances, and uh the Republican candidate, my friend Curtis Slewa, who um was in third, who was in third place because Adams was in fourth place.
He had not really broken double digits, which is extraordinary for an incumbent mayor.
Um there have been rather differing viewpoints, even in the same newspapers about whether Adams was successful, modestly successful, or a terrible failure.
Um I'll reserve judgment on that uh largely because I I thought he was the you know, he was a much better alternative than what we have right now.
And he suddenly Adams' problem wasn't that he didn't mostly have the right ideas, he couldn't execute them.
Uh he and then he had some ideas that were crazy, like uh giving credit cards to illegals.
And what do you think would happen if he gave credit cards to illegals?
What do you think would happen if he gave credit cards to illegals, including as well as health care and education?
You're gonna get a bunch of them.
And then you're gonna get big contracts, and then it looks like they're all indicted for it, that the people around them were whacking up the money.
So he had that created uh a sort of ethical spillover to him, which he denies.
Uh but the government, well, he's under indictment by uh.
He's under indictment now by the state by the state, right?
I think.
Well, in any event, he's out of it at this point.
Yeah.
Well, the Yankees have changed pictures.
Although I see a very nice play here by Max Fried, covering first base.
So you go over to X in a few minutes, uh you can watch the Yankees in between and make sure right now we focus our prayers because uh for Israel and Ukraine, because there's really a lot of decision making going on at this point.
The president has the president has uh uh shuffled the deck and handed out all new cards.
And uh it's not guaranteed that it'll work, but it's better than not trying something.
And uh both both both initiatives have a pretty darn good chance of working.
So pray, pray for them, pray for the people of Iran, pray for the president and people of America, of course.
And uh I would I would never ask you to, you know, I would never ask anybody else to pray for baseball, but I have to admit that I do.
Please don't get angry at me.
I was brainwashed as a Yankee fan, but I love him.
I can we can do it, we can do a uh trivia quiz anytime you want.
Right, Ted?
In fact, oh yeah.
The next show that you're gonna go to started by our doing a uh uh uh a simulcast of the Yankee game.
Yeah, we will play away.
With the Yankee playoffs with the uh Cleveland, well, they should be the Indians.
Yeah.
So we'll see you tomorrow night.
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