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Sept. 29, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Monday, September 29, 2025
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Good evening.
This is the Rudy Giuliani show, and we're on Windell TV.
Almost seems like just a short while ago, the President of the United States and the Prime Minister of Israel announced a peace agreement, which I imagine I should call a proposed peace agreement, because it uh to be a peace agreement, it has to be agreed to by the third party, Hamas, which which has been which has been the uh reluctant, which has been the reluctant party.
Ted, you'll get rid of that.
Uh which has been the reluctant party throughout.
And uh and there are things in here that they have uh rejected in the past.
There also are things that um uh well it's impossible to uh impossible to analyze them because uh it's it's kind of like um no different than years ago when Clinton offered uh Arafat everything they wanted, including half of Jerusalem, and uh he turned them down because what he really wanted was war, so he could collect a lot of money.
And his wife could live uh as a billionaire in the south of France for the rest of her life.
And um look, we're dealing here with terrorists, and we're dealing here with crooks, and we're dealing here with people that are beyond uh uh the kind of analysis that you would impose even on um even on uh uh crooked and dishonest people.
These are extraordinarily evil uh uh people who have so much blood on their hands, they they probably can't even think straight.
Uh but at any event, it's a pretty it's a it's a it's a twenty twenty or twenty-one point program.
I thought the president said twenty-one points, but what we have here is a twenty-point program that was put out by the White House.
So I may be wrong, I'm sure I am.
Um so the ba the basics of it are uh number one, if all three parties agree, two have United States and Israel, then uh hostilities will end immediately.
Fighting will stop.
immediately and um and they will go uh they'll israel will pull back a little uh we can show you that on the map in a little while but pull back a little bit while the rest of it gets worked out then it's going to pull back a little bit more and then it'll pull out completely when all of the terms go into effect uh within 72 hours of israel agreeing and
there's there's the uh line that you see now that first blue line is the line that should should um hamas agree the israeli troops will will um leave that area of gaza and they'll they'll be occupying the area of gaza from the blue line to the book to the border uh with israel
uh when they get to uh the point that they're putting most of this into effect but it hasn't been finalized it had the the things that are contemplative haven't happened yet like they've de-radicalized and etc and become safe and put put the international force in uh israel will go to the yellow line
and eventually to the red line and then there's a demilitarized zone that's there uh to protect uh to protect israel and theoretically to protect gaza and that demilitarized zone meant nothing up in uh Lebanon uh until Israel had to uh clean it up.
The UN was supposed to enforce it, of course.
The UN didn't enforce it.
Uh the UN uh corrupted itself by taking money and uh working with them and working with the terrorists, and I mean the UN is just a useless, completely ridiculous corrupt organization, and they they have nothing to do with this, by the way.
They have nothing to do with the plan that's put into effect uh should this be agreed to, which is uh really a good question as to why do we have the UN.
That's what it's supposed to do.
It's supposed to work things like this out, hasn't done that since oh my gosh, the 50s, I guess, if you consider what was worked out in Korea, anything worth anything.
Um also um all hostages will be released, and uh the uh uh and uh uh and 2,000 Palestinian prisoners will be freed.
And then Israel will withdraw in the process that we showed you there.
Uh members of Hamas who lay down their arms and sign a uh sign a um an agreement uh of peaceful coexistence and acceptance of the State of Israel uh and disarm would be granted amnesty.
Uh those who wish to leave Gaza will be helped uh to leave.
Uh they will not, however, be allowed to participate in any way in the government.
Uh the the people who receive uh the amnesty.
Um Israel Israel will um also over a period of time.
There's some other there are some other prisoner exchanges that are involved.
Um I guess involve more of the long-term prisoners.
But the immediate hostages all will be returned within 72 hours in exchange for that, 2,000 Palestinian prisoners.
Uh the Board of Peace will be established.
It's going to be chaired by President Trump.
Uh one member has already been named, and that's former Prime Minister Blair of uh of uh of England.
And uh and then over a undetermined period of time, uh the uh entire territory will participate in a deradicalization program and will uh uh attempt to create a stable, peaceful, uh successful society.
And when that happens, to the satisfaction of the Board of Peace and signatories, uh imagine really satisfaction of Israel and the United States, uh, then they will be allowed to put together some kind of a some kind of government.
Uh but there's no uh there's no anticipation of how long or uh any time limit on that or exactly what that's gonna look like.
Right now, uh it'll be a uh it'll be this Board of Peace that will be governing them and a um uh an international, we're going to develop uh a police force uh that will uh help to keep the peace there that'll be put together by the by the Board of Um by the Board of Peace.
There are a lot of other terms, but those those are the those are the major, those are the major one.
A special economic zone will be established so they can develop their economy.
Umas and other factions agree not to have any role in the governance of Gaza directly or indirectly in any form, military or whatever.
Uh there'll be a temporary international stabilization force that'll be immediately deployed to Gaza.
It'll train and provide support uh to vetted police forces in Gaza, and it'll consult with Jordan and Egypt uh as well as will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas.
Um the objective is that uh secure Gaza uh when it comes to uh fruition and is uh eligible uh to be considered an independent state, uh will no longer pose any threat to Israel, Egypt, or any of its citizens.
Um this is what should have been done 30 years ago instead of the two-state solution, which has always been completely the work of either particularly destructive or completely idiotic uh left-wingers.
Um, question is will Hamas agree.
If they don't agree, the president has said that Israel, Israel uh will be free to do uh whatever it feels is necessary with his with the president's blessing.
I I think you know what Israel will do.
Uh they've made it very clear they will then proceed to wipe out whatever remains of Hamas.
Uh these people are being offered the opportunity to uh to get amnesty to uh forgo their terrorist uh organization, which is not much of it left anyway, um to get out of the country,
to have some kind of life uh if they if they are too radicalized to understand that and realize it, then uh over the next uh couple of months, Israel is already there.
They're already in the process of eliminating them completely, and they will.
Um I don't know what choice they have.
I have uh no no there's no reason they wouldn't agree to.
I mean, there's no there's no other choice but to agree to this.
But that, you know, there's if there's a 50 percent chance they're gonna agreed with, that's a lot.
Isn't that strange?
I mean, it's very very hard to understand what they see as their future if they disagree.
There's nobody there helping them.
Even uh Russia and China have no want no part in this.
They don't like to back a loser.
Iran is, you know, hanging on for dear life.
Uh the Ayatollah could be gone any day.
Um nobody's coming to their aid.
And uh even uh the countries that have recognized them, have now recognized a country that doesn't exist until you know really America and Israel says it exists.
So that's great.
They recognize a what according to this, there isn't going to be a Palestinian authority until it goes through the deradicalization process to the uh to the uh satisfaction of the signatories, which leaves uh England, France, who else was involved in that Canada?
Was France involved in?
No, I don't think so.
Australia.
Australia.
I mean, that it makes what they did absolutely idiotic.
I mean, they recognized recognize the non-existent authority.
I hope they enjoy having ambassadors to the non-existent authority.
I mean, they have enough uh Muslims there committing crimes, might as well have a couple more, right?
I mean, it's uh France and England could become pretty soon a you know non-English speaking country.
And oh, by the way, the common law may exist only in America because Sharia law may take may take over.
They're fighting really hard in different parts of England for Sharia law to uh to to prevail, and the mayor of London, who of course is a is a very uh radical type uh uh Muslim, seems very much in favor of.
They have Muslim mayors elsewhere, you know, uh throughout England.
They're a whole group of them.
They're beginning to become a pretty big political force in England.
I think they're becoming a bigger political force in England than anywhere else.
Maybe maybe France.
I mean, when I when I was traveling there a lot, France seemed to be way ahead ahead of them in being Islamicized.
But I think England is caught up.
Maybe because of their weak, because of their weak government, both the uh kind of incompetent conservative government they had and now the super incompetent idiotic jerk-off government they have now.
That's right.
Could be one of the dumbest governments in the world.
Well, should we hear from President Trump and uh the Prime Minister of the United States?
Let's uh have them outline what they uh what they agreed to, and let's hope it lasts, you know, it lasts more than a day uh because Hamasrael would have my fall back into finish the job of destroying the threat of Hamas.
But I hope that we're gonna have a deal for peace.
And uh if Hamas rejects the deal, which is always possible, they're the only one left.
Everyone else has accepted it.
But uh I have a feeling that we're gonna have a positive answer.
But if not, as you know, BB you'd have more full backing to do what you would have to do.
You are the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the White House.
But if Hamas rejects your plan, Mr. President, or if they supposedly accept it and then uh basically do everything to counter it, then Israel will finish the job by itself.
This can be done the easy way, or it can be done the hard way.
Well, I I mean that is quite a statement, but it's true.
And I don't think there's anyone that would disagree with that.
I heard uh Senator Fetterman being interviewed, and of course he's a Democrat, although he's about the only Democrat who really tells the truth.
And he's kind of agreed that that's right.
He is he is the best president, Israel, you know, his best president that our ally Israel has had.
Uh and look what they've been able to accomplish together in the first term, the Abraham Accords, and in the second term, uh look at look at where uh things are now uh as opposed to when he came into office where Iran was kind of ruling the roost in uh in the Middle East and honest later setting up an Islamic anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-Western civilization empire.
Um I think I think things have uh uh moved along pretty uh uh pretty uh pretty uh pretty uh pretty fast and and and really really in a position now where Hamas has no other choice than to agree to this.
If they don't, they will be wiped out.
And then we have uh the question of Iran, which is the major obstacle.
If this were to be agreed to, and what really what really makes this work is over a period of you can guess at the number of years.
Uh I would say realistically, if everything went well, it would take five, six, ten years for um for us and for Israel to be satisfied that they could govern themselves.
Maybe longer, maybe not.
If the Islamic uh Republic of Iran continues to exist, and the Ayatollah, they will interfere with that in every way possible, uh, because uh from their point of view, uh the State of Israel should never be recognized.
It's completely inconsistent with the their their uh constitutional religious republic.
Um according to the Quran, uh Jews are either to be eliminated or to be made uh demies, uh submissive to um uh uh to the Muslims.
And Israel, you know, Israel is established as a as a religious state in essence, um, or as a Jewish state, uh and therefore that is completely inconsistent with their raisin debt.
And it's as simple as that.
I mean, it's right in their right in their founding documents.
In order to have a Muslim empire, you can't have a country that's built on being non-Muslim and of another religion.
And so I would feel really much better about the chances of this long term being successful if and when the reign of terror is over.
And the Ayatollah goes somewhere.
I don't really give a damn where he goes.
I know he's not going where he thinks he's going, but maybe I'm wrong.
I doubt it.
The UN has uh without much fanfare, because the press never tells you anything, you know, that's hurtful to Iran and helpful to the U.S., but uh the UN has not in any way interfered with the um with the snack snapback uh uh provisions applying.
That doesn't sound like much, it's catastrophic for Iran.
So back in 2017 when we uh entered into the sellout agreement by uh the pro-Islamisist uh uh uh uh Obama uh uh the UN and us agreed to lift all kinds of sanctions on them in exchange for their agreeing, you know, to to become a nuclear power in ten years instead of immediately.
That's what the agreement was.
Uh if they were going to keep it, and there was no chance they were going to keep it either.
Um that agreement lasted 10 years and hasn't been renewed.
Of course, the United States is out of it, so the United States can impose any sanctions that it wants.
But uh the sanctions that were in place that were international in nature uh were lifted.
And unless the agreement was extended, uh the the uh sanctions snapped back.
That's why they call it a snap back provision.
Well, they snap back, which means that in essence uh just about no uh decent country that has some kind of rule of law will buy uh oil from Iran or do business with Iran.
So uh the the sanctions that we have imposed and which we uh continue to enforce ever more strictly, because uh the the enforcement of the sanctions, I mean, there's an awful lot of obviously um maneuvering that goes on to try to get around the sanctions.
So there, yes, we had sanctions during the Obama and Biden era, but we didn't enforce them.
We didn't enforce them.
A few here and there, but we didn't enforce them.
Uh from the day Trump came into office in 2017, before he even put new sanctions on Iran, they were headed for poverty, but just enforcing the sanctions that existed.
Same thing now.
Uh these new sanctions will now cripple Iran.
And uh the pressure uh on the Ayatollah and on the uh maniacal government of Iran uh is tremendous because uh the country has no money.
And uh its first priority is to uh steal its second priority is to give it money to the terrorists, and its third priority is to um yeah, throw a little money at the people who are who are starving.
Uh There's no reason for it to be a poor country.
It has tremendous resources, but it's completely the idea that the idea that it's a religious country, and that makes it honest is so far from the truth that it really is just a function of all of the brainwashing that's been done.
and the unbelievable, the unbelievable condescension that we give to Islam.
We don't feel like we're allowed to tell the truth about it.
So we've become extremely condescending.
And then they have taken advantage of such an extent that they're doing a pretty good job of taking over the entire Middle East until Trump came along.
Thank you.
So I would say that the whole act that uh Bibi Netanyahu uh attacked very, very effectively and for and forcefully was uh the UK and uh Australia and Canada recognizing uh uh an uh a uh some kind of a crazy Palestinian
authority now uh means absolutely nothing since there won't be a Palestinian authority until we say there is one, meaning the United States and Israel.
Um whether they're going to agree or not.
There's also an issue that the uh Hamas has lost contact with two of the hostages, if you believe that.
I don't know, I don't know who the two are.
They haven't been identified, and I assume they're talking about living hostages, although there are more dead bodies than living hostages at this point.
Um I don't know.
I I I assume that is factored into the into the agreement uh that there are there are going to be short two.
And then we have and then how many are actually alive and how many are dead.
I mean, there as I said, there are more dead bodies that are going to be delivered than than uh people who are alive.
Um none of this has the slightest effect at all on the sanctions that are uh being re-imposed on Iran that are happening as we as we um as we speak.
Um and the EU delivered that message to them yesterday.
Um the the president got to meet with Chuck Schumer.
It's like uh the it's like the groundhog.
He came he came out of the ground.
Even Haydn.
He used to love cameras.
Oh, he used to love cameras until he became uh uh uh a rat traitor, right?
And uh I I think he's embarrassed to look in the camera.
He's he's double-crossed his own people so much it's uh it's embarrassing to even look at him.
Uh notice Jeffries does all the talking.
He doesn't even talk anymore.
I was gonna say, let's uh let's Jeffries doesn't actually talk too well.
So they had their they had their shutdown meeting, and uh basically um the Republicans the Republicans uh uh are willing, which is a concession and to eat the debt that we've already created by spending more than we had agreed to spend, but they're unwilling to to to put in another four or five hundred, six hundred billion dollars.
Um, for example uh so that we can give health care to the illegals, uh including the ones who are raping us and murdering us and stealing from us and robbing from us.
Oh, and the ones who who do you think bringing the who do you think is bringing the fentanyl in?
Uh the people we're giving the health insurance to, and the people that want to close down the government so that we can uh send the money.
So I don't know how far we got uh today.
It doesn't look like we're on the verge of an agreement.
Uh and I'm gonna explain to you when we come back why probably the best thing that can happen if they really insist on this is let it shut down and and cut spending dramatically as far as you have to go.
I mean, you can do a lot more uh uh uh sp uh cutting when the government isn't uh isn't operating because then you have to you have to uh take emergency measures to make sure that you don't uh you know run out of money.
So we'll be right back.
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Well, mayor, we know we have a we have a uh a good friend that we don't get to see as much because we're here up in uh up in um the Arctic Circle.
And she's down in Washington chicken.
And she's in she's in the uh she's in the swamp.
She's in the swamp.
Um we're in Arctic Circle.
A good friend of ours, uh Justine Brooke Murray, uh, a video host for the Media Research Center and a very good friend of the mayor and I. And a real expert on Israel, been there many times and understands it well.
And I just wanted to get your view, Justine, on today's agreement.
And um how real well, the question uh that really I imagine they're betting on in Los Vegas is Hamas gonna agree.
Of course.
And first, thank you so much for having me back.
It's so great to see you again.
The the thing with Hamas is that we have to remember they're a terrorist organization.
We are not dealing with an a normal group of people, and unfortunately the media likes to treat them like they're just a bunch of Boy Scouts who are just left out of the deal all the time.
Five minutes, it seems like just five minutes after this deal was announced, ABC kind of went on the air and uh uh expressed their concern about how this would make Hamas feel.
Um unfortunately, Hamas usually never agrees to anything, uh, but it's it's very big a President Trump in Israel, uh, as usually what they do to work towards peace.
And unfortunately, the legacy media always tries to uh you know demonize them, no matter how much they uh they they they cater or how how generous they are.
Well, I don't I uh I guess we we we uh we have a little trouble with uh with the feet uh but I think I think Justine is absolutely right, no matter how, no matter what we do, this isn't a rational, it isn't a rational process we're going through here.
So we we we're rational people, uh Israelis, Americans, most people in Western civilization, but they're I mean they are they are completely irrational, insane murderers who lie, cheat, and uh see the world only from their point of view.
And I I can't imagine that they wouldn't agree to that.
They're gonna be they're gonna be they're gonna be destroyed.
The the the president the president said, and those were those words are very, very strong if you think about it, because there's all this talk that he's held BB back, which I which I don't believe, by the way, at all.
I think this has been a very beautifully orchestrated thing in which I I don't think the two of them disagreed on anything.
But in any event, the president has said if they don't agree, then Israel will be able to do whatever it believes it has to do.
And he's here with the words with my blessing.
Uh if BB's if BB's been able to accomplish all this without his blessing, can you imagine what he's gonna do with his blessing?
So if they have any chance of surviving, uh this is it.
Otherwise, he's got that he will make sure that he wipes out every last remnant of Hamas so that he protects his people.
Um you should you think you'd be able to predict based on that, Ted.
And yep, we uh Justine will try her again at uh during the eight o'clock hour.
Her connection was weak.
But uh I'm glad I'm glad she looks so well.
And she's uh I know I see her on on TV and she's doing really well.
She's doing great.
Very, very bright, very bright woman.
Um so the shutdown meeting.
Do we do we have uh do we have any um we do?
I I I I I don't remember, I don't remember uh Chucky Cheese saying anything, but uh that's su uh you know who that is, right?
Chuck E. Cheese.
Yeah.
Um or we we could call him the turncoat, the turncoat to his own people.
Um BB remembers that he directly interfered in the Israeli election.
Like we get all upset when people interfere in our elections.
He went ahead and directly interfered in the Israeli elections.
I told the Israeli people not to vote for Bibi Netanyahu.
Right.
Well, let's um when we can cue up 16.
That's I don't know if that's a crime right now.
I shouldn't know, but I don't.
Sounds like it is.
Yeah.
So this is Hakeem Jeffries and uh Jeffries does all the talking now.
And Schumer, yeah, notice.
When I knew Schumer, nobody else could talk.
Right.
Uh so this is Akeem Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer outside the White House.
I think he's embarrassed of himself.
Differences remain.
Democrats are fighting to protect the health care of the American people.
And we are not going to support a partisan Republican spending bill that continues to gut the health care of everyday Americans.
Period.
Full stop.
There's a Republican-cause health care crisis that is causing hospitals and nursing homes and community-based health clinics all across the country in rural America, urban America, small town America, the heartland of America, and black and brown communities throughout this country.
And that crisis is happening right now.
And that's why we believe there is urgency frustrated about the fact that this negotiation has not taken place until today.
But if you look at the original, uh the original thing they did with the that you cannot believe this.
I mean, I know I know that guy Schumer since he was in the uh state legislature.
And of course, there used to be a joke, which was the most dangerous place in Washington was to be between Schumer and a can and a camera or a microphone.
And I actually remember him almost knocking Hillary Clinton off a stage once during uh 9-11 uh when he came in a little late and she was in the shot, he wanted to be in the shot, and he just sort of banged her.
Um she's not the only one.
I mean, and it wasn't because it was Hillary, it would have been anybody.
I mean, if there was a little child there or or somebody in a wheelchair, he would have you know thrown.
Now, look at him stand back there.
See, I have a I have a psychological theory about that, Ted.
I'm gonna give you my psychobabble about that.
He's embarrassed.
He knows he's a traitor to his own people.
He knows he's double-crossed the Israeli people.
Yeah.
Uh he just sat there for all those years with the uh uh squad saying all terrible things with the Jewish people, and he just sit there and not do anything because he's afraid that AOC will run against him.
Um it's pathetic how much he needs power.
Because he sold, I mean, he really is one of the great examples of someone who sold whatever character he had to have power, which he's used for uh who knows what to make a lot of money.
Hasn't used it for the good of the American people.
I can't think of anything that he's done other than be an obstructionist.
Now he wants to close the government down.
When uh he could probably put put on 50 clips from him saying you should never shut the government down under any set of circumstances, except if Democrats want to do it.
So that they can get more money to their crooks.
I mean, look, let's face it.
If they're asking for 400, 500, 500 billion dollars, about half of it's gonna go out to Democrat crooks, to all those uh ridiculous uh not-for-profits that they have that are uh anything but not-for-profits, they're for illegal profits.
Uh the uh I mean just the whole thing that got Adams all tangled up.
The uh the schemes they do with the the the tremendous amounts of money that they spend on homelessness and and on uh and on um uh illegal illegal aliens.
I mean it's it's it's just it's it's among other things, it's a great way to make illegal money.
You put out a contract and you pay three times more for a hotel room than anybody else would, and you have you got 30, 40 percent of it to kick around with the owner, with your pals, with the family of your pals, we have With your campaign donors, and then that's how somebody goes to Congress worth Diddley Squat and leaves leaves with a net worth of 27 million.
Well, look at the one running for governor in New Jersey.
They asked her on one of those Democrat shows.
How does your net worth go up by seven million in just a few years?
So I don't know.
Oh no.
She's from New Jersey, and she's a Democrat.
How the hell do you think it went up?
Oh, we're gonna have more on her later.
I mean, she's she's a real rule.
She sound uh she sounds like uh a Mondami Mondani type, too.
She sounds like a Mondani type.
She she wouldn't uh she wouldn't uh she wouldn't um uh she wouldn't uh she wouldn't make a statement about um about uh Joanne Chazimar because uh that there was a I mean there was a whole big thing about Joanne Chesmar dying and how wonderful she was and how great she was and Mondami's uh party uh praised her and Mondami,
of course, wouldn't speak out against her, and neither would um neither would Cheryl, who's running uh in New Jersey.
She was not the Lula.
So I guess the shutdown meeting accomplished nothing.
The Democrats want uh want bribe money, kickback money, uh money, money for illegals, money, money that'll go for uh go to um I mean when you hear a not-for-profit involved in politics, yeah, it's not a charity.
It's a charity for the democracy.
It's a charity that creates the reason why uh Congresswoman Cheryl has to say when your net worth went up by seven million.
Do you know how?
I don't know.
That's because you're a Democrat.
Well, the shootings are getting to be absurd.
That we I mean, and the violence that's going on is getting to be absurd.
Bombing, shootings, whatever.
Uh the nut jobs are coming out all over.
The latest one, or is it the latest one?
I get I get the I get that the order of them uh somewhat somewhat confused.
Uh which which pretty massive shootings.
We have some B-roll from both incidents.
Uh one in North Carolina that left uh I believe three dead.
That was in North Carolina over the weekend.
Here's some footage from that incident.
Um my goodness.
And so we are uh So that that that was that shooting was a Marine veteran.
Three dead, eight injured at a waterfront restaurant in Southport, North Carolina.
The suspect fled by boat and remains at large.
So his name.
His name is Nigel Edge.
And he actually um I believe did they capture him?
I don't think he's at large anymore.
What?
I believe they did capture him.
I don't think he's at large.
Is he is he is he alive?
He he had he had run away.
I'm trying to see the latest on the shooter.
I think he's in custody.
Well, he shot three people.
He wounded five.
Uh he uh he's 39 years old.
No, he's taken into the custody of the Coast Guard on Saturday night.
And uh it says here, chief among his beliefs appear to be he was being hunted by L G B TQ, white supremacist, and a ring of pedophiles targeting him for being a straight man.
And he changed his name from Sean D. Bevois in 2023.
And he's and in the last several years, he's he's uh uh he's filed a number of lawsuits against people he claims are attempting to murder him, which include the Brunswick Medical Center, the Generations Church, and also former American Idol star Kelly Pickler.
And uh apparently he met her ten years ago and accompanied her to the CMT Music Awards.
We don't have any official analysis of you know his motives or he it is said that he suffers from PDSD.
He was in fact in combat.
Um he was deployed at uh to uh Iraq both in 2005 and 2006.
He has a Purple Heart, he has the Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal, he has the combat action medal, the Sea Service deployment ribbon, the Iraq campaign medal with two bronze stars, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
And he claims in his own book, and the uh this has not, I guess, been verified, but he claims in his own book that he was uh wounded four times in his two tours in Iraq.
And um, and he killed three uh he killed three people.
And you saw the picture of him there as a United States Marine, and that's um and that's Kelly Pickler, uh, who was the um who was on American Idol at the time, the star of American Idol at the time.
That's him with her.
That's him with her back then, yeah.
The second uh the other the the the other murder, which I which um took place after that was in Michigan.
And and we're going to uh we're going we're going to have and is that what are we looking at now, Ted?
That's Michigan.
That's the that's the that's the um is uh the shooting of the Mormon church on the Mormon church.
And we'll have more information on that next hour.
We have an reporter on the ground.
We're going to have Stephen.
Who's there?
Uh our our good friend Stephen uh is gonna be there, and he's gonna uh give us give us the lowdown on what on what um what the late on what the latest is.
Um in addition to those two, which have gotten a considerable amount of of attention, there was also a shooting in South Texas on early on Sunday, in which two people were were killed and uh seven wounded.
Uh there was another one in on Sunday in New Orleans on Bourbon Street, where one uh dead and three wounded on the first block of of uh of Bourbon Street.
So I don't know.
Uh I this this was reported, and I haven't had a chance to check it out.
Uh uh, but I uh if it isn't absolutely correct, it certainly makes the point that there have been a heck of a lot of them.
Uh there have been 350 mass shootings this year.
So that's uh now mass shooting is four or more, I think, right?
Four or more.
But now it's three or four.
Three or four.
Check, check what that is.
I'll get I'll get that for you.
But we've all we've only had what we've only had 270 two days.
Well 73 days this year.
150 mass murders?
That doesn't seem right.
There seems to be something wrong with that.
So we we should check that out.
Uh maybe someone in their excess of zeal in trying to demonstrate to us how many shootings we have has uh has exaggerated it a little.
But the point is it It seems like we're having an epidemic of violence, aren't we?
And a lot of it seems to be targeted to religious institutions.
Remember the attack on the Catholic Church.
school church but the children were in church right um And the attack, the attack, uh the attack in Michigan is on a uh a Mormon temple.
Uh the the leader of that temple, who was a um who was a um a le a leader of the Mormon church, died the other day, and he was like 70 uh 101 years old.
And he was a uh uh prolific inventor and humanitarian, and there's no no suggestion this is anything to do with that.
It's just it's just a strangest, it's just the strangest thing.
Um but it's amazing because he crashed his um the perpetrator here crashed his truck into the church, and then he opened fire and set the church ablaze.
That is a you might think you were looking at one of the war zones there, right?
Right.
He did a hell of a job on that.
And there I think I don't know if this count has changed, but there were four dead.
Two were shot, and two were found dead inside the the the uh the church.
Now when I checked last the the warning was to expect that there might be others because they haven't been able to go through the whole whole thing.
They expect to find additional bodies.
What a terrible thing.
And at last uh uh last count, it was uh seven people were still missing and unaccounted for.
And there were hundreds of work worshippers inside of the inside of the church of uh Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
In so people will get this confused, Ted, with Grand Rapids.
Right?
Right, sorry.
This is this is a this is this is a Grand Rapids is a is a city in Michigan.
South of Flint.
What?
Yeah, Grand Blankets south of Flint.
And what's the one?
This is like a suburb, right?
Of Flint, yep.
Sorry, I got it.
A suburb of Flint?
Yes, uh, Grand Blank is just south of Flint in Genesee County.
About about an hour from the Detroit.
Yes.
And it's basically a um typical middle of a middle class suburban community.
Yes.
Uh one would describe as a nice place to live, right?
Right.
Oh shit.
But you can but you can see how pretty the uh uh when you look at when you when we look at that uh a video of the of the fire, uh it almost looks rural, yeah.
The land, the the the it's it's surrounded this is on the outskirts of the of the town, but yeah, big if you look over here, there's a development.
You you see the homes, yeah.
Yeah, I can see a development, but I also see a heck of a lot of trees and woods.
Yep.
Uh I don't I I uh I mean there is a tendency to try to connect them all together.
Um and there's um uh um no reason you wouldn't try.
I just wouldn't get locked into it uh until you know more about it.
Um some of them, some of them you know we know quite a bit about uh because the the cause, the cause and the organization was extremely pu public, uh like uh uh turning point and and uh and Charlie, and there were there were many, many threats, and there's a whole history of uh very incendiary.
Excuse the word after that fire, but very uh volatile statements about about it.
Um that is not true as far as I can tell of the Mormon church.
There's no particular controversy about the Mormon church, other than it's a Christian church.
Um is it is it uh is there I mean some of these, from my experience, some of these will get resolved as personal insane situations, and some of them will be connected to a much larger social uh movement that's going on.
Two minutes.
Uh it's just it's just the way it is.
I mean, um the human mind and the human personality is uh uh unpredictable, isn't it?
Well, we're gonna go over to X uh shortly, and uh we'll we'll um we'll can we'll continue um we'll continue uh analyzing the things that uh that are going on in this very, very complicated period of time in which we live, including what's going on uh back in my uh in my home city of New York, the one I used to run a long time ago.
And um, and also what's going on with the Comey case, which has you know led to lots of uh controversy and debate.
Um I think I know a little about it and uh about where it's going.
So uh you come over to X at eight, which is only five minutes from now, and uh we'll we'll continue with our analysis, and then we're gonna we're gonna send you back at nine uh or thereabouts uh right here on Wendell TV to hear from Dr. Maria.
So let's pray for the people of Israel now.
People in the Middle East, really.
This this would be a heck of a breakthrough.
The only thing I have to tell you, I shouldn't interrupt prayers with commentary, but this isn't gonna even if Hamas agrees, this isn't gonna work unless the reign of terror is gone in in Iran.
Um pray for the people of Ukraine.
They've been attacked again.
We'll cover that uh very shortly on on X. Um pray for the people of Iran so that they can be delivered uh to freedom.
Pray for all the people who are caught up in this violence that they have no part of.
All these people who innocent people who are being killed for reasons that either have to do with uh the uh terrible, uh horrible way in which uh we're being uh uh we're really being radicalized in order to change the nature of our government, or or we're unable to deal with mental illness.
So we'll see you tomorrow night.
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