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Sept. 26, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Friday, September 26, 2025
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is the Rudy Giuliani show.
She's doing a little Biden.
So it really is difficult when a person, a person as absolutely correct all the time and perfect in every respect, who has to live in a world of inferior creatures, like you and me, gets indicted.
I mean, I only call him James Cardinal Comey out of respect for his uh sanctimonious behavior and for the fact that he can um that he, unlike others, is allowed to wish death on people.
Now, Ted, would you tell us because you were much better at this uh than I was?
Um I'm not cool, you know.
8647.
47 means to uh 86 means to get rid of somebody, right?
Right.
So that so eight so that means everyone agrees that means get rid of uh President Trump, 47.
Right.
And uh he took a picture of that, right?
Yeah, he claimed, yeah.
He took a picture of that.
Now, I want to know, because I understand he was he was quite good in the sandbox, but he wouldn't allow other people to play with him in the sandbox.
Did you know that when he was a kid?
Oh, you didn't know that, huh?
Well, no, he was not, he was not.
It was one of the things that I found out, you know, when we interview people for being assistant U.S. attorneys, we do very, very intensive background checks on them.
Right back to the sandbox.
Like, for example, how how good in the sandbox is this potential assistant U.S. attorney?
I mean, if he's fighting with everybody in the sandbox and nobody in a sandbox likes him, and whatever he's never gonna convince a jury, right?
If you can't convince the kids in a sandbox, how the hell are you gonna convince a jury?
Our understanding was that we didn't get a great deal of information on uh James Cardinal Comey in the sandbox.
We understand though that he kept things to himself.
So uh we know he took a picture of that, but I've actually heard rumors, Ted, that he preserved the sand.
Somehow he preserved that sand.
Now, I don't know how he did it, but he said, of course, it was just an accident that to everyone else in the hip world, 8647 being found by the former director of the FBI who was fired by 47, just out of the, you know, out of the 340 million people in America that could have found that, the guy who who who Trump fired found that.
And he put it out because he didn't know what it meant.
How many times do you put out messages you don't know what they mean?
Ted?
Please don't say too often because I'm gonna have to get you examined if you do.
Never.
I never understand any of the messages like that.
I didn't know that means kill Trump.
How likely is it that a guy's gonna send out a message kill Trump who has a motive to kill Trump?
I'm just making a point.
Now the press, of course, dismisses it completely.
But every argument that I made is a logical argument.
It doesn't mean it's necessarily true, but would that stop that?
Imagine if Trump came up with a message that you put a couple of numbers together and it said, kill Comey.
Right.
Well, in any event, Comey got indicted, and you know, a lot of people, I mean, I had clients of all different kinds.
I had uh, like most lawyers, I had mostly innocent clients.
And like most uh uh whenever you meet anybody I prosecuted, even the ones who like me, and even the ones who respect me will say they were innocent, of course.
I never prosecuted anybody who was guilty.
I did a you know, did hundreds of them, but never prosecuted one that was guilty.
Not even one.
But that's the way it is in criminal war, and you get used to it.
And if you have a sense of humor, you can put up with it.
I want to show you this indictment.
You know, the difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is this.
Remember all their bills that what was Obama care with 4,632 pages?
Yeah, something like that.
Uh just would like you know that we get to the point a lot quicker.
Here's to Comey indictment.
*laughter*
You know why I'm laughing.
Many, many years of experience tells me what this is.
This is step one.
This ain't the final step.
You don't do this as the final step.
This is let's squeeze the little son of a bitch and see who we can get him to flip.
He does look like a guy with not much character, even though he is a cardinal.
I mean, there have been cardinals that didn't have cat character.
So they hit him, they hit him with a nice one, right?
They hit him with a nice one because they're not much of a way out of this except if he has a prejudice jury.
Um everybody is focusing on just a little piece of this case.
And they're focusing on the fact that he he testified, and uh this is very easy to lay this out, right?
He said he testified that uh very, very clearly and unequivocally, that um that he did not, that he did not, that he falsely stated to the U.S. Senator that he had not, quote, authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports.
That's pretty simple, right?
Question is, did he?
And is it provable?
Well, we know there's one clear witness.
This came up in the testimony with um with Senator Cruz, who, by the way, I think I'm right about this, and I'm sure uh Alan will correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe Chad won't, but I think Alan told me that that Cruz was one of his five best law students at Harvard.
He didn't tell me the other four, they were all probably crazy lefties, and he's a f he's embarrassed as to what happened to them.
But he said Cruz is one of his five best.
Now, I will tell you, uh I've had my ups and downs with Cruz.
And when I say ups and downs, only for one reason, my loyalty to Trump, I got very angry at him at the Republican convention when he didn't immediately um accept the winner.
And then I was enormously pleased all through the four years of President Trump's uh presidency, and I'm not a big friend of Cruz, nor am I playing up to him, nor is there anything he can do for me, or would want him to do for me, uh except be a very good senator.
I really respect Cruz.
I thought for a guy that was, you know, look, he beat up Trump, and honestly, Trump beat him up pretty bad with the father of this whole thing.
There are very few people, even ones that were with Trump from the beginning in the Senate that were as loyal to him as Cruz, including uh when all the people jump ship, including The little scum, you know what, that you don't even know about after January 6.
Man, were they peened in their pants after January 6th?
Not Teddy.
100%.
All the way.
Same, same thing.
Maybe that's why he's in the cabinet, huh?
And doing such a good thing, same with the same thing with Marco.
There were others too.
And you probably know who they are.
One or two times you probably don't.
But I would not want to be questioned by Mr. Cruz.
Because he knows how to surround the question the way a good.
I mean, I would have hired him, let's put it that way.
You know Jim Kramer, who's on television?
Big famous guy, made a fortune.
Didn't hire him.
I didn't think he he knew, I didn't think he knew how to get to the point fast enough.
I would hire one out of three.
I'd have my committee name me three people, and then I'd hire one out of three.
One of those one out of three was James Coley.
Please, Mr. President, don't shoot me.
You know how I get away with it with uh Coley?
Ted knows because he's seen it done.
He'll say, he'll say to me, How the hell did you ever hire Comey?
I said, How the hell did you ever hire Cohen?
That sort of brings it back to earth a little, just a little, you know.
Uh, but in any event, do we have uh do we have the um do we have the little interchange uh between a man of great intelligence and a man of great uh phony uh sanctimonious behavior?
Clinton administered.
You responded again under oath, no.
Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were a directly aware of it, and that you directly authorized it.
Now, what Mr. Kitt McCabe is saying and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true.
One or the other is false.
Who's telling the truth?
I just can only speak to my testimony.
I stand by what uh the testimony you summarized that I gave in May of 2017.
So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak.
And Mr. McCabe, when he, if he says contrary, is not telling the truth.
Is that correct?
Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today.
Andy, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony.
This is now this one left on on its own, uh uh uh Ted, talking to my Ted.
Um he's the smartest person I ever had to do that job ever.
By far.
So and it isn't that I have, and you're gonna say I had nobody else.
Not true, not true.
Okay, but any event.
Uh, how do you pick between McCabe and how do you pick between two guys that have spent their entire life lying?
Yeah, I mean, he's either both pathological liar, and McCabe must be such a good liar, he got hired by CNN.
CNN only hires you if you lie.
How awkward that must be.
But uh, you have to, so we have to go on logic, don't we?
Yeah.
Who would logically be telling the truth?
Right.
Uh I would go with I don't think I I think they're both lying.
Well, no, you don't think McCabe says I got author authorized either I got authorization or I was told to leak this stuff that is confidential and in some cases illegal to leak.
I was told to do it by the boss.
Uh and the boss says, under no circumstances did I do that.
So just based on that, I'm gonna make it easier for you as we move along.
You know what a good lawyer I am and how easy I make it to convict somebody.
So this sounds like it's kind of hard, right?
Right.
It's a it's what they call a one on one, and if you have a one-on-one between two people who have a reputation for truth, that's one thing, right?
I don't know which is harder.
We've got two people, both known for truth.
One says, he authorized me to do it, and the other one says I didn't authorize him to do it.
Now we got uh we we got we got the thing flipped, but we have the same conundrum, don't we?
Right.
We have two people known for being effing liars, right?
All their lives.
I mean, McCabe is on CNN every other day or whatever, no, he's not on that often.
He's not that good.
But what does that matter on CNN?
Nobody's listening.
Uh Maybe it doesn't matter on CNN if you lie if nobody's listening.
It's like the tree falling in the forest if nobody heard it.
Right.
Well, in any event, how do you how do you judge between figure out who's the bigger liar?
Or do you figure out which is logical?
Or do you do something else that is the way I want all almost all my cases that were tough?
You corroborated.
Corroborate.
Not that I expect them to understand that.
Somebody's missing here in this equation.
And when I say it, you're gonna say, how come all those other reporters didn't bring it up?
That's why you have to listen to this show.
Right.
In uh uh in 20 uh 17 Mr. I'm sorry, card the cardinal.
Uh gave uh gave private papers, private notes of his.
Uh I think classified.
And he gave them to a professor at Columbia.
And he authorized the professor to leak it.
The professor has so testified.
And the papers were leaked.
And I don't think there's any doubt that he did that.
Which makes what he said in 2020, oh, a lie.
False, not true.
Perjury.
So we don't have to worry about figuring out between two of the biggest liars in the history of the FBI which one is lying.
In this particular case, it it's gotta be Comey who's lying because he did authorize the leak of information, not just once, but twice.
Twice is two times.
So if we're struggling, like, gee, who's telling the truth?
Well, we got two witnesses now.
Um they're already locked in, they can't change their testimony on it.
Right, they were the professor.
Um it is true the professor now would probably come along, Daniel Richman from the university that used to be the biggest Jewish hating university in America until it was replaced on the uh on the Goodman Giuliani report with Harvard.
Yeah, I think it was in 2024, yeah.
It was the biggest Jewish hating university.
or 2023 and then in 2024 harvard was uh columbia fell to like number three or four so don't worry they're still in the jewish hating business but uh professor richmond did in fact do exactly what um what was asked of him by um by the director of the fbi uh he he
He cooperated in the commission of a federal crime because he had no right to leak those, and it was a crime for the director of the FBI to do it.
I am not sure you're aiding and embedding that as a professor if you if you leak it for him.
But I don't know if that really matters.
I'm not trying to put the professor in jail.
I'm just trying to prove to you that maybe he's a slime ball too.
And the fact that he teaches at Columbia would take you a long way there.
Because who the hell would uh who the hell would uh teach in a place that hates the Jewish people the way Columbia does and discriminates against them the way they do?
Right.
And the professor's got to be not much of a moral nobleman either.
Right.
And but in any event we got him locked in.
He leaked.
And that's how we have in the league.
Comey told him to leak, Comey testified in front of Congress.
I never did that.
That's called perjury.
Bye bye.
And why why do we why does it seem like there's this relationship between you get the you know the federal agent, in this case, Comey, oftentimes somebody in academia, and then a journalist, right?
Not all journalists, but oftentimes it seems like those are the role communists.
They kind of work together to put this misinformation out, to lie.
Well, I don't know about, I don't know if you know not all, of course.
We're not, but but I don't know the professor.
My guess is it you gotta go with the averages at Columbia.
He's probably a Marxist, an America hater.
Uh uh uh uh Comey is holier than now.
These guys are smarter than anybody in the whole world, yeah, including God, which is why there is no God.
Um they're extraordinarily arrogant.
Um they almost always uh fail to have a complete personality, like they have no sense of humor.
Uh I wonder if you threw a ball at him if you'd react, you know.
A duck.
That's the kind of, you know.
But in any event, I don't know Daniel Richmond.
All I can tell you is that when the director of the FBI tells you to leak, if you're a decent honest man, you tell the directory of the FBI, you know, go stuff it up your sure as hell what I would do, but see, I'm an honest man.
That's why they indicted me.
Because they're Democrats.
Um remember also um remember also this is the guy that uh completely planned the framing of Flynn for a crime that he knew Flynn didn't commit, that General Flynn didn't commit.
Now, does that come in evidence here?
You're gonna want to know.
That's gonna depend on whether on whether the cardinal takes the witness stand.
Cardinal doesn't take the witness stand.
There is a third, by the way, there was a third piece of evidence on him committing perjury, which I'm gonna save because I don't know if they've this is a this is a this is a bare bones indictment for a reason.
They're feeding them very little to start with.
I don't want to feed them anything they haven't fed them.
What I just mentioned to you, everybody knows.
Well, not every people seem to have forgotten the professor one, but in any event, it's there and it's open, and of course he he knows it, and his lawyer knows it.
Yep.
Um the third one I don't know yet.
Um as soon as I know, I'll let you know.
But we're not we're not giving this son of a bitch any breaks.
Um but here's the real point of this.
This is just the beginning.
This is the beginning.
By the time these indictments are finished, it could be this big.
You don't do an indictment.
If this were the final indictment, it would be what we call a speaking indictment.
They'd have everything in it so that they they could help the jury understand it when the jury got in the jury box.
This is never intended to go into a jury box.
Not only did I do it longer than Comey and those guys, I taught them their record as U.S. attorneys were pissant compared to mine.
He was a pissant U.S. attorney compared to me.
It's a big case was getting extraordinarily dangerous.
Oh my god.
Wanted by the FBI, number one.
Thank God they got her off the streets.
Martha Stewart.
James Comey got Martha Stewart, Giuliani got two Nazi war criminals.
Just about everybody in the F everyone in the Mafia.
Just about everybody in Wall Street.
Oh, not to mention the terrorists, or the Colombian drug dealers, or the people who threatened to take his life.
Oh, he got she had dangerous guy.
You gotta you gotta understand.
This guy Comey's got guts going after Martha Stewart.
She might have thrown food at him.
You know that.
Now the day I began losing respect for Comey and got to figure him out.
I know the personalities of these bastards really well.
I realized he was a publicity sucker.
That's a case you don't bring.
If that's Mary, uh Mary Jane Smith, even famous Mary, even uh not famous, but wealthy Mary Jane Smith or socially prominent Mary Jane Smith, and she did one insider trading transaction, which she said she was confused about.
The general rule, and it's general rule, there are exceptions, no need to spend a great deal of time on all the exceptions, unless you'd like to get one credit in uh securities law.
Uh here's the rule of thumb among honest, decent, humane prosecutors, of which I was only one.
There are very few left, but I was only one.
You don't prosecute a first case inside a trading case.
You don't do it because it's believe it or not, particularly back then, it's a it's a more ambiguous kind of crime.
In fact, there's even words for this in in in law.
It's called mala in say and mala prohibitum.
Mala in say wrong in and of itself.
If I hit you across the face, I know that's wrong.
I don't know, it may not be a crime in some places.
It should be, but it's wrong.
It's a sin.
And sin and crime under Anglo-American law pretty much equate because Anglo-American law came out of Roman Catholic moral theology before it became the Church of England.
So if I lie, it is not always illegal to lie.
It has to be under very special circumstances.
If it ever was illegal to lie, everybody would be in jail, right?
Yes.
So it's wrong to lie.
Trading on inside information is not necessarily always wrong.
If you're at the track and you get inside information, at least unless it's changed from the time I used to go 20 years ago, everybody's looking for it.
Everybody's looking for it.
Or on houses or on, but because of the special nature of the market, we passed this law so that people wouldn't get advantages.
But it's the special nature of the of the market.
And not everybody knows that.
I cannot tell you how often people are surprised by it.
If I get a tip, I can't use it.
Yes, sir.
Stay away from a tip.
Uh or how about the people they get confused about not reimbursing people for campaign contributions?
I've seen this.
I've I used to handle those cases when they first started.
It was never illegal.
We made it illegal.
I was a prosecutor when we first started prosecuting those.
I would say three-quarters of the people that we would bring in legitimately, and I will tell you, equal distribution, Republican, Democrat, smart, not so smart.
Yeah.
You mean if I want to contribute, uh, if I want to contribute 20,000 to my favorite candidate, a democratic candidate, let's say, and uh, and the maximum is is uh, and the maximum is uh $5,000.
I can't give my kids 15 of the 20,000 and make a contribution for me, my son, my daughter, and my other daughter, and reimburse them for it.
You just went to jail, Uncle.
That's a crime.
Why?
It's my money.
Of course, there are people who do it or know they're the crime.
But of course, there are people that don't.
So the way you treat that is unless you have an egregious violation, you give them the first time.
You get a fine, depending on how serious, big fine, small fine.
Next time they come along, suck them.
I was taught by Silvio J. Malo.
This is about even more serious crime.
He said, never push a case, kids, never push a case.
If the guy's a criminal, and we don't win, we try the best, we don't win, don't get feel too bad.
If he's really a criminal, he'll be back.
Soon.
See the difference in attitude that uh I was taught, my generation of prosecutors, and um I we're gonna try to have Joe de Genevera on tonight, but we weren't able to get him.
Joe Joe would be exactly from that generation.
Uh, Because I I know Joe would be very, very wise and very intelligent on this particular case and has equally strong feelings as I do about not just Comey, but about, you know, this is like when a police officer have to confront a bad police officer, or let's say priests, a bad priest, or it hurts for everybody.
Most prosecutors are very decent people.
So this is going to develop into what I predicted.
I don't know if I predicted on my show or on the many shows that have been on in the last three days.
But this is going to be at least a seven or eight part indictment.
I don't even need the one I wrote out.
I have it memorized.
It's just a uh an add on to my to my to my uh to my book, the Biden, and I'm I'm pointing the wrong way because I'm turned around.
The Biden crime family, right there.
See?
Let's see if I can get my thing in the right place.
Is that Comey?
Yeah.
Who put him in that?
You did that, Ted?
Man.
That's what I've been working on here.
Earlier today, I said, Ted, can we put him in a red thing?
Hope I don't get excommunicated for doing that.
I mean, I really enjoy being a member of the church here, good standing.
Went to a nice mass last night.
Yeah, you didn't do it, I did it.
So yeah, but that's not right.
This is a this is like uh Holy and McGabe.
The direction of uh I'm an agent for the city.
Did you have anything to do with that?
No.
No, I'm not sure.
I stand by my previous.
I'm not gonna speak for Ted, but I'm a little squirmy rat.
Right.
No, I asked him to do it.
I I asked you to get somebody to do it.
I didn't realize you could do it.
You know, he's a sinister looking cardinal.
Yeah.
He's not even like an angelic looking card.
We added the shadow, the long shadow.
He probably would have paid bribes to try to become Pope.
Yeah.
You know what he wouldn't have paid Buck.
I think he's cheap.
You know what he would have done?
He would have gone around trying to get people in trouble and extort them.
Yeah, he would have tried to sink the others.
His lawyer is um is another lawyer who worked for me named Fitzpatrick, who became very famous because of a lot of controversial prosecutions in Chicago because he left New York after I left.
That's Fitzpatrick to his left.
Uh yeah, yeah, uh, yes.
Fitzpatrick is his best friend, has been uh uh defending him forever.
Um he was a he was a um now he was considered so uh comey was there about two or three years while uh while I was there.
Fitzpatrick is one of the last people I hired.
So I really I really don't know personally, but he prosecuted some very Fitzpatrick did some very, very good and some very big cases.
They were after I was there.
I don't remember exactly which ones, but I know from my friends there that he had a very, very good reputation, except for one thing.
They all would say he was overzealous.
He was too much.
This comes from prosecutors.
And then he went to Chicago and became U.S. attorney, and he did the Bogoyovich case, which I really always thought was too much.
It was like uh Martha Stewart on steroids.
Uh and I thought it was a vindictive political prosecution by Obama, which it was.
And later on at the eight o'clock show, I think we're gonna have the governor on.
Yes.
Uh who who uh can tell us about Fitzpatrick, because the two of them are like peas in the pot, uh, the Cardinal and Fitzpatrick.
So now there's an artist, it's just a little comment in the Wall Street Journal.
It's not in a column.
It's in a news article, but that you can't, there are no distinctions now between columns and and and uh opinion pieces.
You know, in in journalism, there was always a strict uh uh ethical rule.
When you were reading the news pages, that's everything until you get to the editorial part.
Um you were reading facts, or the best they could do is facts.
And uh, of course, subjective opinions will get into your analysis of how you put the story together.
Even just the mere uh decision of what you think is most important to the story is gonna warp a story in one direction or another.
That is um that's human.
And a really good honest journalism tries to fight that, but it's never gonna overcome it.
Now they just put their.
I mean, the first time I saw someone describe uh, well, the president falsely claimed that the election was fixed by a reporter.
That's an opinion, my friend.
That's not a fact.
There are plenty of facts that show the election was fixed.
Any reasonable man could come to that conclusion.
And even if he wasn't reasonable, it's not your job to decide whether he's telling the truth or not.
It's a jury's job to do it.
No jury did.
And uh it's um it's an opinion writer.
You have those, you have those opinion pages, so that there on that page, I can give you my opinion of what I think.
And then you will know opinion, and you can evaluate it.
I don't slip it in so that I brainwash you, which has been done now for 50 years, which is why our country is in such great need of reformation that the president is bringing about.
But I'm gonna read you a column.
This isn't the worst, but it's just an example.
And I I don't even want, I'm even gonna mention the name of the reporters.
These are just kids, and I I don't even know, I don't even know that they know they're doing it.
Trump's supporters see this campaign.
The campaign is the prosecution of um Comey, okay?
And and maybe what follows from because I think everyone knows, like I know, this is going like this.
Going like that.
This is like you start with Comey.
I don't I don't know if you can flip Comey, but you see if you can flip.
Then you go to McCabe and you go to this one.
Um then you go up a little further, then you then you get you get to uh Brennan and Clapper.
Uh you know, whenever I did these, I had a whole big chart, I had it on a whiteboard, all my guys at work on it, and I we weren't beyond making gentlemen's bets on who would flip.
Do you know I I don't think in any big case we ever failed to get a couple of flippers?
Now, if we had failed to get a flipper in a political case, I would even fire myself.
I mean, that's like that's like uh nothing.
I mean, they they got mafia, they got omurta.
And character, a certain kind of honor.
It's a false kind of honor, but it works.
Even on Wall Street plays like they have like honor.
Politicians don't have any honor.
They don't have any.
They could justify against their mother.
I don't I can't think of a of a political case.
I've even got a brother to tell.
I mean, God almighty, in an Italian family, no way I'm gonna get you get a brother to testify, the mother would kill him.
But among politicians, wow, do they flip around?
So this is this is the start of something big.
But here's here's uh here's the uh observation, and there shouldn't be observations by reporters, just facts.
Trump supporters see this campaign as a justified after years of what they viewed as unfair and overzealous investigations into his own conduct.
Okay, uh these people whose names I'm not gonna give you didn't come and uh interview me or Ted, and we're Trump supporters.
I don't see this as in any way justified after years of what they did to Donald Trump.
I don't see it justified after years of what they did to me, or to Papadopoulos, or to uh Carter Page, or to my good friend Steve Bannon, or putting uh uh leg irons on my friend Navarro, or raiding my friend Roger Stone's house in the middle of the night and scaring the hell out of the kids, or them going in front of these houses dressed up like Gestapo FBI agents.
Do I see all that as very wrong?
You're damn right I do.
Do I see that as justification to go after them?
Of course not.
What the hell am I?
Crooked like them.
There's only one reason if you want to use the word go after them, and that's if they committed crimes.
And there's an imperative to do it because this is the kind of crime or group of crimes that can become routine if you don't stop them.
Political corruption has become routinized in many, many Democrat American cities.
That means if you elect a Democrat in New York, in Philadelphia, in Chicago, in you go on and on, Baltimore, you're more than likely going to get a crook, at least for the last hundred, 150, 175 years.
In New York, which I can know best, it's almost invariably true, except when you had a Republican or an independent, or every once in a while, a reformed Democrat, because it's been routinized.
They don't get away with it.
They set up a court system that makes it impossible to catch them.
Because the very crooks who are doing it appoint the judges.
And they pretend the judges are elected.
But since it's a one-party communist type society, you become you get an Angle Moron who was elected three times without an opponent.
And that is par for the course.
The judge who was the special master in my proceeding in which they disbarred me based on uh based on basic uh Soviet rules, uh which have been the rules of democratic political justice in New York for years.
Um the judge, who was a retired judge who sat on the case with a political appointee from one of the worst of all, Brooklyn, and um knew that she would not get this extra money ever again if she had uh if she had uh found for me.
She would never get appointed by another Democrat.
Uh the Angomoron got put on the bench by the Democratic District Leader, the Democratic district leader's firm has a case in front of Angamoron right now that is so filled with conf conflicts, you would vomit if I told you about.
And if he rules the way he appears to be ruling, the Democratic District Leaders' firm can make a lot of money that it shouldn't make.
Now, anybody excited about that?
That's the rule.
What I just told you is the rule, not the exception.
You want you want to fix America.
You want to fix American cities.
Evie, make them honest.
If the money given to poor black communities since at least Lyndon Johnson had gotten to the poor black people, there wouldn't be any more poor black people.
Now, the congressmen who represented them, who started with nothing and end up being worth 20 million, well, they wouldn't have their 20 million.
Get it.
So when they say this, that we want them indicted because of what they did to us.
Speak for yourself.
That's what you would probably want.
We're somewhat more moral.
We believe in God.
We believe in a set of morals that are uh uh that emerges from that.
And I don't believe somebody shouldn't be prosecuted as innocent because they unfairly prosecuted me.
That's just making it worse.
You make me feel worse if you do that, because I'm a decent honest person.
You may not think I am, I know I am.
I don't really give a shit what you think.
But on the other hand, I'm not gonna let you intimidate me into not prosecuting them by saying, oh, they're just doing Because of that.
And then this thing goes on into my son's generation and my grandchildren's generation.
And the next generation, and my contribution to America is to make it as crooked as the Democrats want it to be.
One of the things I can fight is corruption because I know how to.
I want these people prosecuted because they committed some of the most serious crimes against the republic.
And because if they're not prosecuted for it, if if they ever get back into power again, they're gonna do exactly the same thing.
If Donald Trump has made one mistake, the mistake he made, which is understandable, is not prosecuting a bunch of them when he came into office the first time.
He'd have taken a lot of criticism for it.
They would have tried to impeach them.
They did anyway.
But he would have scared the living daylights out of them.
These are not very strong or courageous people either.
It doesn't take a lot to change them.
This is not the mafia, this is not a terrorist group, this is not the Nazis.
This is not uh big time uh uh economic uh uh crooks.
It's a bunch of the lowest of the low.
So let's take a short break and we'll be right back.
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And we're we're not uh uh uh we're not very uh artistic on this show.
Now uh music, yes.
You know, I love opera and I love classical music, and we kind of work it in.
And if you ever want me to work it in more, I will.
I love to do it, or baseball.
Uh but as far as uh graphic arts, I love it, but I'm I don't know that much about it.
But I do I do know a great one when I see it.
And the president does.
President has put up like a lot of pictures, Ted.
Uh I don't have the I don't have all I we in fairness, we should show all the pictures.
But of all the presidents, now are they all the presidents or all the presidents that he's featuring?
It didn't look like when I saw the level it didn't look like all the presidents, but I think it was in a row, though.
I think it was in the chronological.
He puts himself last because you know he's the he's the he's like second to last or third to last and last.
Well, you know who's in the middle?
Here, this president.
Let's let's look.
President Autopan.
That was awesome.
Mr. Trump, Mr. President, you still got it, you still got a sense of humor.
I was very, very happy today.
I was talking, I was on the Bannon show today.
So he and I, of course, are both very close to the president and and love him.
And we were just talking about how we're very, very happy that he that he went to a golf tournament today.
He's been having a rough, not rough in terms of difficult things, but difficult emotional things.
I mean, losing Charlie.
It was rough on us, imagine what was on him.
But he I know just like if if if you saw me sitting in a baseball game keeping score or or uh just talking like crazy with the guys and women around me, you would know that I was in my glory, and just really, really enjoying myself.
And if I had some bad times, they were getting driven out.
So seeing him show up at the Ryder Cup.
Now, I was once the captain of the Ryder Cup in England.
I was I was selected by um I selected uh by the PGA by the team.
How'd the team do that?
Be an honorary captain.
How'd Team USA do?
No, in 2004.
Shut up.
Would you like to get slapped around?
Well, I was that was an honest question.
Don't you know we've lost like four in a row?
How pathetic it is?
And the president tried to put the best on it.
You know, look, this is a guy who doesn't like to lose.
He doesn't like to live.
You you've seen him.
The very few times he comes back after golf.
You see the difference when he loses.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we're working on next week already, and now we're gonna make up how we're gonna make up for you know, we lost by it by a stroke.
Now he doesn't play with me, he doesn't want to lose.
He plays with my son because he wants to win.
And you know that he is very, very competitive, but I was very happy to see that he was at the Ryder Cup.
And a couple of the guys got on and they were talking about him.
And of course, I guess if you really like their sport, they're gonna they just love him.
Yeah, one guy went on and on about how nice he is to everybody, and it isn't just us.
I see him with our kids, but not just our kids.
If they're just kids of some of the fans, the kids come in and they're throwing the kids out.
He stops them from throwing the kids out.
This is the way he's been all his life.
It's such a shame to see what they do to him.
Gosh, oh mate.
Um, so they are also gonna take a look at, in fact, I think I think there was a letter sent by the Justice Department to organize uh a little unclear exactly how with the task force as uh as just a focused effort out of the Justice Department.
We're gonna, and this and this this is really very, very important.
Should have been done, should have been done, but of course there was so much going on in 2020, including the pandemic.
But it should have been done in 2020 when all the riots were going on because they were being paid for hand over fist by uh Soros and uh other communist organizations and open society and you got it, babes.
And uh, and then you had uh Harris raising money for them and Biden's people raising money for them.
End result is almost they burned down buildings, they killed people, they sent thousands of people to the hospital, they killed cops, and almost no one went to jail.
Almost no one.
January 6th, everybody went to jail, even people that weren't there.
Uh people who were thinking of going to Washington, their air there through the airwaves, the FBI picked it up and came and took them and put them in jail.
Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but sometimes hyperbole is necessary in order to make the drama of the point more stark.
Or at least that's my excuse.
So they've they they uh it has been confirmed, probably a leak.
There shouldn't be leaks.
I hated leaks, but now I have to report them.
Um one of the main and first ones being investigated is a group called the Open Society Foundations, which um uh there's a report from the Capital Research Center saying that in specifically uh they doled out 80 million dollars uh to groups that were involved in uh in uh riots that turned into being extremely
violent, including Black Lives Matter, the Sunrise Movement, the Ruckus Society, and the Third World Organizing Society.
That's the Open Society Foundation.
They exist to try to make a better world for us by burning down buildings or funding the burning down of buildings.
You know, there is a way to do that illegally.
If you've got to take a building down, you get a permit, you do, you know.
There's a way to do it.
And they've been getting away.
I mean, uh Soros has been getting away with murder for a long time.
Now, murder, I mean that colloquially.
But disruption of society.
Does it include murder?
Well, that's what the investigation will find out.
Um these lefty groups are now going to be systematically and systemically investigated by uh prosecutors.
There is a vast world of difference between an investigation by a prosecutor and that which we have become more used to, investigations by uh Senate and House committees, despite the fact that sometimes I make fun of them because they're investigative techniques or amateurish, even despite the fact that they don't have the tools.
In many cases, that is not true.
In many cases, it's they don't have the they don't have the resources.
They can't force testimony, they can't give immunity.
They don't have really the power to imprison, so they don't have the power to turn.
That's I mean, that you want to do 20 years in prison, fine.
I don't mind, never see you again.
Bye.
Now, would you like to you want to see if we can talk about something where you get out so you can see a kid's graduation?
Maybe we could have a conversation.
That kind of thing.
Uh they don't have, they don't really have the leverage for that.
And uh believe me, that's probably the most single most investigatory tool that works in a conspiracy.
Cooperation, getting people on the inside to describe what happened.
Because a conspiracy like this or any other, we could go into all different categories of conspiracies.
The people committing it are trying to hide it.
You have to crack through that.
It isn't like a bank robbery or uh or any robbery.
They that you almost can't hide it, right?
You're doing it, so you're gonna leave, you can leave a little trail.
Or even even uh think of uh Charlie's uh the shooting with Charlie or the one in Dallas, those guys tried.
Um the guy, the guy that shot Charlie, I I guarantee you he didn't know there were surveillance cameras taking pictures of the whole thing, and he was doing it basically on national television.
Uh I think he thought he had come up with a pretty good plan by having that building that was obstructing him and then moving out from the building, staying down, doing it quickly and take it off.
He didn't realize that all of that was on video.
Much harder to do something like that and hide it.
But in terms of these conspiracies, these corruption conspiracies, they do it as best they can to hide it.
So even if they're not the best at hiding it, they put obstructions in your way.
And you need um you need tools like subpoenas, like holding them in contempt, like heavy terms of imprisonment.
Maybe you got to prosecute a guy.
Get him 20 years before he's gonna you're gonna open up the investigation.
That's why they take longer than people realize.
Uh, but on Trump time, I don't think that's gonna happen.
Well, this is gonna be going on uh even more tomorrow.
I'm sure more is gonna come out.
They're moving fast on this.
Um the president has lit the fire under them, as you know.
Um don't and don't get down on the people.
These are very good people.
These are very, very good people, my friends.
And we're all on the same side, you know that.
I wouldn't tell you that if it wasn't true.
Even though they are they are friends, there are friends that shouldn't be doing this.
But Pam and Cash and Dan Bongino and the people you're looking at here and the people working for them, boy, they are as motivated as I am, and they're as good as you're gonna get.
And if they make some mistakes, they're human.
I'm not saying they did, but they will.
Some, not too many.
Well, please.
You pray for everyone in harm's way.
You pray for our key continuing to move inexorably toward a more perfect union under what we are graced by God, one of our greatest presidents, who may end up being, who knows.
Uno, maybe.
We'll see.
Even if he, even if he's tied for Uno, we'll take that, right?
And uh pray for him.
Because even though he's a great man, he's human and he needs your help and guidance, and he knows that.
And uh come back tomorrow.
And later on, eight o'clock, after my eight o'clock show, you go listen to Dr. Go listen to Dr. Ryan.
She got a very, very good show.
She was playing it all day.
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