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Sept. 9, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (752): Just Released Video Shows Depraved Murder of Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor Live.
Live from Dover, New Hampshire.
But our eyes are on Charlotte, North Carolina, and our eyes are in a state of shock.
To see the additional footage of the uh brutal, barbaric murder of Arena Zarutska.
Done by uh done by a uh career criminal uh violent uh uh animal to Carlos Brown Jr.
Uh for whom the mayor of uh of North Carolina is just sobbing with sympathy for him, uh, but very little for Arena.
This is the murder that took place, and uh you've seen it, but what the part that the part that I found completely uh uh enraged about was the fact that no one came to the aid of this young woman uh uh when uh she could have been possibly saved.
Uh of course no one came to her raid when this animal did this.
They were definitely a group of cowards on that train.
Or could be worse than that.
It could be hate hatred that the Democrat Party teaches them uh as part of its uh uh program now.
Uh similar to the Communist Party, it has a whole propaganda platform, one of one of which is that whites are uh kill black that whites are danger to black people and kill black people in very large numbers.
Uh so let's let's uh let's take a look at this.
There they are on the commuter line, which has become quite dangerous apparently under uh the last Democratic governor Cooper, the present Democratic governor uh who is it, Stein, Josh Stein as the governor, and and under the mayor, who is about well, she's it sure as heck would be a hell of a thing to figure out who the dumbest mayor is.
But she's in the running.
Um so shall we take a look at it?
Warning, this video is disturbed.
Many of you will find this extremely disturbing.
Warning, this video is made possible by the way of the world.
Oh my god.
watching the land you know that's all about the people from charlotte coming up to help Uh really somebody should apologize for that's terrible.
Absolutely.
Oh my god.
This guy comes.
he's gonna just look getting a good look at the cow in the spine
Oh I mean here are three or four people within four or five who could have applied a tourniquet or pressure on the uh I don't know that it would be done any good.
I don't know what this guy is trying to buy.
Oh my god, I don't know where he came from.
But he is he is gonna try.
He's gonna do what should have been done which you would not get any help.
Well, somebody just gave him a tourney or something active.
We have no idea, Chad, that this guy professional or just narrative.
Yeah, he's obviously about the only human being strong.
My whole city should be ashamed of.
It appears that my city might still be a heart.
You can't really tell.
He's moving.
The water is confused.
Looks like he's trying to make a 9-1-1 call at the same time, Dave.
What?
Isn't that a chill phone in his left hand?
He's I can't tell if he's moving her head or if she's moving her head.
Well, he's moving ahead.
I'm looking at some people, maybe the guy.
We don't know why no one went up to her.
Were they afraid of the guy?
Or were they just hateful?
I think they should all be called before a grand jury and question about what they did.
and why they didn't help.
It's amazing.
They're not giving this gentleman any help.
Oh, finally, a woman shows up.
Maybe she's a oh, I don't know.
I'm just saying maybe she's a nurse.
She's trying to help him.
Do you have a video of the of the uh of what the train looked like with the people who were sitting in their different chairs before it happened, Ted?
Yep.
We'll get that.
Okay, let's watch this to the end.
You see the you see the how much blood there is near the door?
You see it?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's a lot.
He must be gone now because they're all quite brave.
This is what this is what we should have seen from the very beginning.
Right.
You know, there's a lot of strength in numbers.
You can see there's a woman.
Why do we have their faces out?
Shouldn't we know who these cowards are?
Absolutely.
They don't even move.
I think just by instinct, a lot of us would like to think we would have jumped up.
Thank you.
I mean, look, I don't I don't want to make this about us, but all I can think of, mayor, is when you when we stopped last week, and you didn't even hesitate.
I'll admit it, I hesitated.
You didn't even hesitate.
You said we're stopping.
Of course we're stopping.
And that was and that was uh the middle of the night in a dark highway.
This is a bright train.
You got 10 people, you got 20 people around there.
Look at that.
All these cowards.
I can't help it.
Yeah, he's he's worried if you got a little blood on him, I guess.
We you mayor, you stopped in the at night pitch black.
There's a big guy.
But that's a big guy next to him.
What the hell is that guy?
He's wearing a cowboy's hat.
What is that guy in the cowboys hat?
I guess he does make his way down the train.
But my goodness.
This should be a warning to anyone.
Even thinking of going to Charlotte.
Not a single person, though, even if they didn't have the courage to apprehend this guy or stop him in the act, which would have been tough because it was really fast.
Why are they not helping her?
They're sitting there like it's a perfectly fine day.
Look at these people.
And this guy came up and he he's running over.
What's wrong with his arm?
Yeah, he appears to have something going on there, but but he that that gentleman is the one that ends up that could be the train.
That could be the train moving, right?
Moving.
I mean he almost looks like he's drunk or something.
And he might have been, right?
I mean, it's late at night.
I'm guessing it was later at night.
Or he's seen the blood and is like, what the hell is that?
He sure, he sure, he sure was afraid to make eye contact with him.
Right.
But but he probably had no idea about the woman yet, because that that happened on the other end of the car.
So he's coming from the previous car, it looks like.
And then he makes his way down.
Here's another hero.
And these people are getting off the train.
They're all moving away from him.
oh this is the worst video you can imagine Now that guy with the hat on.
Now there's the guy that was helping her, or he is helping her.
They're trying to pull her body out.
The guy with the hat on, it looks like a cop.
He sure is useless.
He he that's a Dallas Cowboys hat, so I could see where the star might the star might make it appear to be a cop, but I do not believe that is a police officer.
God, I hope not.
Look at these people just come on, they don't help.
They're just going to sit.
It almost seems as if the man is asking for help and he's not getting it.
Thank you.
This is part of what the mayor is concerned about.
I don't know if he's a whole guy.
I'm like, I don't know if he should have been put away something for the rest of his life.
Thank you.
He never should have been there.
14 times is what I read.
Yeah, and the last one, the judge let him sign a letter saying you'd be a good boy.
Like to get rid of that judge.
They don't they don't tell you the name of that judge.
I mean, they're covering up everything.
Well, now let's take have we seen all the film now?
Yeah, we've seen the critical parts of the film.
It's just shocking.
Let's take a look at uh the mayor's uh uh tweet on September 6.
The video of the heartbreaking attack that took Irina Zarutsky's life is now public.
I want to thank our media partners and community members who have chosen not to repost or share the footage out of respect for Irina's family.
Yeah, right, mayor.
Out of uh uh out of the uh dictate from the uh communist party of Charlottesville, otherwise known as Democrats, that it should be censored, and uh was by the uh by the media, because it happened on August 22nd.
I'm looking at September 6th here.
This was a senseless and tragic loss.
My prayers uh show more.
My prayers, and you can see more.
Yeah.
Thanks for your prayers.
I know it's easy to say, Mayor, I wish we were there.
Of course.
I wish we were there.
Maybe we could have even if we couldn't have stopped him, maybe we could have pushed it.
And maybe us acting, if we couldn't stop him alone, would have looking at those people, it wouldn't have, but maybe it would inspire others, right?
If you get one person to jump, oftentimes you can get a couple others.
Maybe he's I mean, he's obviously a coward, so maybe he would have ran away.
Just tackle him, tackle him down to the floor.
Maybe somebody will come and help you.
I sometimes if one person takes action, I mean, it's like it's like the uh uh uh the guy taking the hill, right?
He goes up the hill and everybody follows him.
There's gotta be one guy that leads.
Obviously, they don't have leaders in Charlotte, North Carolina.
The city should be ashamed of itself.
The city should be ashamed of itself the way the city of New York was over Kitty Genevieve, and that's 40 or 50 years ago.
And I was a kid, and I was ashamed, and it's probably one of the reasons why I'll never pass up anything like that without taking action.
I've done it not just then, I've done it other times uh too, including going into a fire and uh stopping a uh uh uh a guy, a mad crazy guy with a baseball bat from banging the hell out of a taxi driver.
Wow.
But there's no way my basic humanity, my manhood, or any who could stand what look at that.
Look at that.
You can't be outraged enough, ladies and gentlemen.
You cannot be outraged enough.
This has to stop.
Every aspect of this from the obviously the crime, but the reaction of every individual on that train for the first five minutes.
But this is this is what you get when you when you're subjected to this.
The president of the United States says that racism uh uh and white uh supremacy is systemic in America, which means that every white person is.
Who knows how many of the people on that train believe that?
And therefore they're not gonna help that pretty white girl.
Right would they have done the same thing if it was a black a black girl?
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know the answer.
I'm just asking the question.
There that there only can be several reasons why they didn't do it.
They were afraid of him.
Or now we're really there shouldn't be too much fear of him.
He's off in some kind of a crazy state.
He's actually walked way over to the other car.
There'd be no reason to be worried about helping her, Ted.
Right.
Even right here, okay.
Well, it's I mean, if that guy, if that thing next to him who they're covering up in order to There are three other men and a woman, at least there's at least four other individuals in that section that watched this happen and continue and watch her bleed out.
Sorry, we're trying to get back to yeah.
Look at these people.
So uh it's it's so disturbing to watch, but you cannot be outraged enough.
Obviously at the crime and the judges and prosecutors, but also for the reaction, and that's uh it's just the inaction of everyone else on that train is such a damning indictment on our society.
I hate to say our society, but this is America.
This is a major city in America, and and supposedly one that we've been told for the last couple of decades, one of the hot spots to move to, right?
Are you how many young people everyone in our audience?
How many people have been in the high crime city for quite some time though?
But but young people since they started having democratic mayors.
Right.
But young people have been moving to Charlotte in droves.
I know so many young people.
Since then, it's become a high crime city.
We need to find out.
I mean, that's all you have to do.
If you want to become a high crime city, uh vote for a Democrat.
And then continue to do it for 65 years, like Chicago.
Look at this.
All these people don't tell me they didn't see something.
Don't tell it's it happened right there.
That guy, who is that skunk?
That that coward, he's looking away.
He won't even turn around.
But why are they?
Why are they not helping the girl?
There are so many of them.
Uh, their strength in numbers.
Cowards.
One guy or two guys could go in and help her, and five guys could surround the guy.
What?
It's like zombies.
All are these people just zombies?
Look at them all sit there, and they're watching that they they they uh watch the girl die.
I couldn't live with myself.
So sick.
I mean, I'm I'm sort of in a state of shock, but so you saw you saw the uh the the mayor has made brilliant statements like we'll never arrest our way out of issues such as homelessness and mental health.
This isn't homelessness and mental health, it's murder.
And by the way, if you don't deal with homelessness and mental health, you're gonna have murder.
And you don't deal with homelessness by letting people stay on the street.
They just become more insane on the street, they become more violent, they become more isolated from society, half-wit.
Let's take a break.
Someone made the observation about one of the dumb mayors.
That how do they I guess it was in Chicago or New York?
How come they picked the stupidest person in the city to be mayor?
That woman has to be one of the stupidest people in the city.
Rob Schmidt, I think.
One of our we will never arrest our way out of it.
Well, it's a lot better than not arresting him.
Yeah, so I tell you one thing that's for sure.
If this guy were in a nut house where he should be, this wouldn't happen.
Or if you were a leader of your city, your people, your people would have acted.
You helped to teach them to be cowards or to hate white people.
And I'm gonna say it.
What about the mayor?
What about the mayor that would only take questions from black reporters?
Was that Chicago?
I don't know.
Was that Chicago?
I think so.
Yeah, it was light, light lightweight.
Yeah, lightweight.
Just unacceptable.
And mayor, I'm sure we'll want to come back to this story, but uh we we we may want to take a quick break, and then when we come back, we do have a guest uh as we uh good as we wait.
We're gonna take a short break and when we come back, uh we're going to we're going to talk to our fairly reza and uh and also bring you up to date on what's happened in Qatar and uh in the middle in the Middle East and elsewhere in our world.
But this has to be the most shocking.
We'll be right back.
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Welcome back.
Welcome back to America's Mayor Live.
Well, we have on the line with us Ali Reza, Jeff Sordardi, and And uh he is going to well, first let's say hello to him, Ali Reza.
Mayor, it's so great.
So great to see you, Mayor, back in action in good and improving health, but a great spirit.
And you have always been a fighter, and you're now even a bigger fighter.
Just so uh pleased to see you and to be able to speak with you, Mayor.
You know, I don't know how many people have been praying for your uh improved health.
Well, I got a wonderful, a wonderful video from uh Madam Madam Rajavy and Farzin of all the people at Ashraf singing for me and uh holding signs.
Must have been hundreds of people.
It was just beautiful.
Uh it made me cry.
It was really beautiful.
I called them last night and thanked them.
Um but Farzine, tell me about uh I I I told Farzine I'd like to talk to you about what happened in Belgium and uh just take us through that because I I don't, you know, people there's a certain censorship that goes on in trying to protect the regime, and this is part of it.
People don't know the kind of support that there is, not only for regime change, but for the specific program of Madame Rajvi, the 10 point program.
So I'd like you to tell us about Belgium, what happened there?
Sure.
Uh, just over the weekend on Saturday, um, September 6th, tens of thousands of uh people gathered, uh, many of them very young people, uh, Iranian Americans, people, I mean, mostly uh Iranian descent who lived in Europe uh uh primarily,
they gathered in the uh main square um known as the atomium in in the heart of Belgium, and uh not only they call for a snapback of sanctions on the Iran regime to get tough on the Iran regime to end the policy of appeasement that has been most destructive over the past two decades,
but also specifically uh calling for the support uh for Mrs. Mariam Rajabi, who by the way uh appeared in person and addressed uh the rally and supporting her 10-point platform for the future of Iran.
And actually, you can see actually the uh the huge crowd there, absolutely unbelievable the uh uh level of the support, enthusiasm.
You saw you know, lots of uh young people there, and they basically uh argued and and made it very clear that there is an alternative, there is a solution uh for a free Iran, a democratic Iran, and this is just the beginning.
They will continue this effort until the molars are gone.
And uh remember, this is the month of uh September, and um uh every year come uh the third week of September is the UN General Assembly.
All the heads of states of about over 190 countries come and address the General Assembly, including uh President Trump, but also the regime's uh representative, not the Iranian people's representative, Pezeshion will be coming to New York,
and there's gonna be a big uh rally by thousands of Iranian Americans who will come from all over the United States on um uh Tuesday, the 23rd of September, right across from the UN, making it very loud and clear that the uh the regime's representative doesn't represent the people of Iran.
There is an alternative, the ultimate solution for the Ayatollah's uh, you know, uh you know, terrorism and development of nuclear weapons and the killings is actually regime change by the people of Iran.
No need for boots on the ground appropriation of money or arms, uh, none of that.
And they want to show the world that the alternative is right there.
All they need to do is to recognize it to stand on their side.
And I recall uh since at least since 2009, Mayor, you have always been there addressing the rally, making it very clear, making your voice very much known uh to the outside world that the people of America stand on the side of the people of Iran.
Well, I think it it is very effective at this point to show the number of people because it shows that this is a very, very substantial movement.
I know last week we had the former member of parliament who uh uh uttered the magic words uh MEK is all over the place.
Exactly.
Meaning your presence, your presence in uh in Iran is uh is uh all present.
You're you're in almost every town, uh every area.
Yes, oh there's Madame Rajavid.
And you know, uh mayor, this coincided with his 60th anniversary of the formation of the main Iranian opposition movement, the MEK, uh, that started against the the Shah fighting against the dictatorship after Shah.
Shah, even though he um executed all the founders and many top members, but he couldn't eliminate them.
The same thing was done by the mullahs, and this is the movement um that has you know been battle tested, fighting against two dictatorships, and um uh it was absolutely amazing.
It was 60 years of resilience, uh commitment, endurance, uh, and growth.
Um, relying, you know, going from one generation to the other.
And um, and I think what you saw in in Brussels in Belgium, uh, you saw several generations continuing the fight for freedom until victories is accomplished.
Well, I think that that's the case, and we're gonna have you on again, and we'll go into it in more detail.
We'll keep we'll keep following it as we build up to the 23rd.
Thank you, 23rd of September, Tuesday 23rd.
Exactly.
Thank you so much.
23rd.
The 27th or the 23rd.
Tuesday, 23rd, right.
23rd of September.
And that is that is that's the day.
That's the day that the president of the Iran speaks President Trump.
But the next day, uh the day after that, 24th, which is a Wednesday, there's gonna be again another rally repeating.
That's the day that uh supposedly Pezeshian, the regime's president would be speaking.
On both days, the uh Iran-Americans, thousands of them would be there to make it clear to the world that you need to pursue policy of firmness, supporting any kind of firmness as uh you know, President Trump has done, but also rejecting the regime calling for change in Iran.
Well, that's wonderful.
Well, God bless you and take care of yourself.
Great seeing you.
We'll be talking to you very, very soon.
There's a there's a uh quite a patriot.
I'll tell you, right?
Ted.
Talk about a true freedom fighter in the in the truest sense of the word.
Yeah, and he's surrounded by others just like him.
Oh, those those guys are, and then obviously they're they're they're personal friends.
Uh but beyond that, uh, I look up to these guys, mayor, and our audience, a lot of them have gotten to know them through the show here.
Uh, these guys don't mess around.
When you talk about fighting for freedom in the truest sense of the word, these are your guys.
And of course, they're led by uh the incredible uh Madame Rajavi, a woman.
So when I say guys, I'm using the term.
Yeah, they're pretty much they're pretty much 50-50.
Men and women, the organization is, and it's really intended that way, because one of their great uh causes is in order to bring freedom and equal rights uh to women, uh, religious freedom, uh, political freedom, uh all the things that uh decent people in Iran want.
Right.
And so we'll get more info on that uh event on the 20th.
Uh and we'll we'll get some more info on that and make sure uh any of any of you that might be in the area may want to uh get out there.
Again, if you are fed up with the Ayatollah and want to see a uh future with a free Iran, these are your guys.
Well, everyone in New York, of course, is uh frightened that uh Zo Zo Tan, Zo Ron Mandani is going to be elected uh the first communist mayor Of New York, the first uh trader to the United States to be uh mayor of New York, we think.
Um, we've had uh terribly crooked mayors, uh, probably more than our share of them.
Um, but uh we've never had a, as far as I know, a trader.
And this guy is a traitor, a communist by definition is a traitor to the United States because he's seeking the overthrow of our government.
And everything that he talks about comes right out of the Marxist playbook, uh, which has you know uh 20, 30 steps uh to communism, the uh the end of which is the overthrow of your government.
Uh he he he is following that to it to to the letter.
Um now he is taking something out of the playbook of uh the former uh undistinguished and absolutely stupid uh vice presidential candidate uh and vice pre former vice president of the United States and presidential candidate of the Democratic Party, uh Kamala Pamela.
And uh if you listen to the answers to these questions, you tell me what he said.
Shall we put him on?
Yep.
So the first clip, this is uh going to be from an interview he had on Friday.
This is with CNN's Abby Phillips, and this is his.
Well, just watch the clip and uh judge for yourself.
This is uh frontrunner candidate, Zoran mom.
Everything that we will talk about.
But in this country, there's a big debate about uh the wealthy, the uber wealthy, the gap between the rich and the poor.
Just this week, uh Tesla offered a pay package to Elon Musk that would potentially make him a trillionaire.
Do you think trillionaires should exist?
I think the better question is whether working people should exist.
Because what we're seeing right now is amidst this incredible wealth, we have people who are keeping the city running but have to now live outside of the city, outside of the state.
There are New Yorkers who are living in New Jersey and Pennsylvania and Connecticut because they just can't afford to live here.
Amidst all of that, we have talk of trillionaires.
I mean, it it tells you where our political priorities are.
And that's what is so frustrating is that when we talk about the cuts to snap benefits here in New York City, the throwing of millions off of their health insurance, it's not just an incident that has taken place in Washington, D.C. It is a function of the largest wealth transfer we've ever seen in our history of our country's politics.
Yeah, I mean so what?
What is he gonna do about it?
Do you want to stand?
I mean, do you understand that?
I mean, that that is what has become the modern Democrat communist response.
Just bullshit.
No proposal.
All his proposals are going to drive people crazy in order to, he's gonna spend another 10 billion dollars.
He's gonna tax uh rich people more, so that the few rich people left are gone.
It'll end up uh a city that's completely dependent, nobody working, uh nobody having any money, anybody with any money is gonna go somewhere else so they can keep it.
Uh the uh I I don't know if it's because he was too stupid to get into Colombia, or uh, or he's uh an avowed communist.
I believe it's the latter.
Although I don't think he really is an avowed communist.
I think he has the sentiments of a communist.
I don't think he's intelligent enough to really be a communist, because the things that he says are extraordinarily vapid and stupid and meaningless.
That that whole that was just a group of words.
And of course, by a reporter that was sitting there ready to give him a big, you know, French kiss.
So now let's go to the, let's let's go to the next one.
I think this is with my friend, I believe is with my friend Marcia Kramer.
Try to decipher.
So now we're gonna play the next one.
Try to decipher this word salad from Zoran Mom Donnie.
But we'll work on it.
Brooklyn and in the Bronx, people are now focusing on now with the increase in shootings in in Brooklyn and in the Bronx, people are now focusing on public safety.
So I'm wondering what would your public safety plan look like?
Explain it to our viewers.
Absolutely.
You know, prior to the West Indian Day Parade, I visited Little Caribbean, and I spoke to a number of residents in East Flatbush who were sharing their concerns around gun violence.
And I met a number of New Yorkers who were part of the crisis management system, part of a cure violence approach to dealing with gun violence.
And they told me how important it is to have a comprehensive approach to reducing gun violence and frankly rooting it out of the entirety of our city.
And that it would take working with the police, working with the crisis management system, working with a cure violence approach, all of these things to deliver that safety.
And then I went to the Bronx just a few days ago, and I met with a program called Guns Down Life Up.
And this is a program based in Lincoln Hospital.
And one of the young men I met, he had actually been attacked and was in Lincoln Hospital, and he was thinking about retaliating.
And that's when he learned about this program.
They recruited him to join the program.
And instead of another act of violence, he's instead now a mentor to others who have just gone through that same process.
Poor Marsha.
That's what he's going to do about violence in the city.
He's going to go find people in the Bronx to talk about it.
That's going to really help when a woman is being beaten at home by her brutal boyfriend, and the guy walks in and says, hey, let's talk.
Well, you're gonna get a lot of those people killed.
This is a stupid child in a horribly serious man's and woman's game.
And it's not a game, it's life.
It's the game of life.
He's not prepared for it.
He's a spoiled rich stupid brat who has completely unamerican ideas, has a hatred for the United States, loves our enemies, and should get the hell out of here and go back to wherever the hell he came from.
And I'm not even sure who I know that is.
I mean, I know I know he's not black, although he lied and claimed that he was.
That I can tell because I can look at him.
The rest of it, I don't know where the hell he came from.
Maybe uh he was groomed to be the first communist mayor of New York, like somebody else we know.
I mean, his interviews.
He he has a program called Guns Down Life Up.
Now, I reduce crime more than anyone in the history of the city or any city.
Uh I I can tell you categorically, guns down life up is gonna mean a lot of black people are gonna die.
They're gonna use injured gangbangers as mentors.
What do you think they're gonna teach them?
How to be gangbangers?
That's what they're gonna do.
They're gonna recruit.
As David hire uh uh uh more uh police to make up for the losses.
They cut a billion dollars out of the city budget.
So there were 41,000 cops when I was mayor.
There were 34,000 cops now.
You're talking about defund the police, and they already defunded the police.
The question is, is he gonna restore that?
He thinks they have the appropriate numbers of offices.
And with the retirement rate that he's gonna get that he that he's gonna have, and his inability to recruit, it's gonna be down to 30,000 real soon.
I think the key key thing is to retain more of them.
Such so that such that we don't see this exodus.
Now, how does he how is he going to retain the police when he hates them?
Why would the police work for him?
You you you you you saw what happened with with De Blasio, they turned their back on him and they left the police.
Police departments are down in every Democrat city.
They did defund the police.
They did it in 2020 and 2021, and then now they're no longer Ford defunding it, but they don't refund it.
So it's down to its pathetic numbers.
That was the problem in DC.
They can only put out 400 cops on a shift.
What President Trump did was get them uh double to triple the number of patrol officers.
And that's what helped a very large extent to reduce the crime.
He also was gonna take another billion dollars out of the police department, which means fewer cops for the Department of Community Safety.
Now you know that's gonna be a bunch of political crooks, political political hangers on left-wing fools who are gonna go around and tell hardened criminals to use their words, or maybe they're hardened criminals themselves.
This is a disaster.
Everybody in New York knows it.
Why aren't they voting against him?
Do you get it, Ted?
I can't talk to anybody in New York that is an apoplectic about this bump.
That so where are why aren't they voting against him?
Right.
I and it'll be interesting to see what happens, Mayor.
It'll be it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Uh come election day, because a Democrat primary, of course, is a different different group of voters.
The president is of the view, and I think you know, the president, the interesting thing about President Trump is he doesn't really hide much.
He tells you what he thinks.
Right.
And I and this is what he said to me personally as well as publicly, so I don't mind saying it.
He he feels that you can't beat him by dividing up the anti-Mandami vote and making it possible for right now.
He's winning with only 36, 37% of the vote.
Right.
I mean, I that's ridiculous.
I don't know that we've ever had a mayor elected.
I mean, Lindsay was elected a couple of times with only 40% in a three in a three-way race.
Um there have been a couple in three-way races that have been elected with um with like 42, 40%, but I've never heard of a mayor elected with 36%.
Now he has 36%, and that puts him 12% ahead of Cuomo.
And and unfortunately, outside of uh Curtis Sleewa, who who we know personally, so I'm leaving him out of this discussion.
There's no all there's the alternatives to Mom Dani have have such big flaws, and they they themselves have major defects in the public in the public's eye.
I mean, I think Adams is a non starter.
Right.
I mean, the guy Adams has talked himself and worked himself out of the job by not being willing to do what he's by not having any political courage.
I think uh Cuomo is so frighteningly flawed, right?
Uh that people are worried how crooked he'll make the city.
Well, remember, he he got the he he cleared the field for the Democrat primary when he chose to run for mayor, and then he ran a half-assed campaign.
I uh I mean Mondami has already uh beat him, but he beat him, he beat him with a very even a smaller electorate uh that tends to vote very uh uh uh insanely uh liberal democrat.
Right.
Um I'm just afraid the liberal the pre the president's logic about it, although it goes against uh our friend Curtis, probably is the traditional political logic.
Right.
That um now there was an article in the paper saying that the president and Curtis don't get along.
Uh I think that's I think if anything, that's more on Curtis's side.
I don't know that the Honestly Curtis, don't get upset.
I don't think the president has given you much thought.
So I don't think the president is.
I think the president, if the president thought you could win, he'd be for you.
Actually, think about it.
He'd put yes, he's for quo, he's not really for he's for Cuomo for the same reason that I might end up being for Cuomo, although I think I'm for you.
And that is if it was uh Cuomo or Mondami, of course I'd go with Cuomo, even though I fear him and I worry about him.
I don't worry about him in the same way we've had Cuomo's before.
We've never had a damn effing communist before.
And this guy is a particularly odious little shit.
So let's look at Curtis's first ad, because I don't understand why he doesn't do better.
He actually would be the perfect answer right now.
But let's let's listen to Curtis Lewis.
So this is uh Curtis Lee was first ad.
We're bringing it up.
Yeah, he has no money also because the Republicans aren't supporting him.
Republicans are all split.
Even his boss, Castor Matides is supporting Cuomo.
Rapes.
I don't know how to 40%.
Felony assault?
They tell us New York is safe, but women know better.
Rapes are up 40%.
Felony assaults are at an all-time high.
Domestic violence is driving mothers and their children into shelters.
Every day, women risk harassment and assault.
Just going to school to work, just living our lives.
Curtis and I have always fought for women.
will keep defending them because no one should have to choose between supporting their family and protecting their life.
Well, I mean, it's it it it's it's a um a usual ad that's done with four or five others.
Uh an ad from your wife.
Uh it kind of humanizes you, it shows the human side of you.
This is an interesting ad because I guess they don't have much money.
They got to put everything they can into it.
So this becomes a highly substantive kind of down ad, right?
About how bad the city is, which you have to do if you're running like he is, and he's the answer, and they have his wife uh doing it.
Could work.
I it gives them a different picture of Curtis, who, you know, everybody gets stereotyped.
I did, everyone does.
And the stereotype, uh it's good that he's not now he has his usual uh guardian angel cap on, which I love, but a lot of people, you know, think it uh it ty it.
I like I like seeing him without that on with his wife.
He'd look like he looked like a mayor.
Yeah, and you know, it's funny, you have to look, you have to look the part for people to vote.
Well, we're all human, right?
We've we use our eyes uh very lawyer.
Oh, she's she's she's incredible.
It should they make that did they note that might not have been a bad idea to put her credentials down, right?
Might not have been a bad idea, whoever is doing his ads to put her credentials down.
Uh she's a lawyer, she's uh had several very responsible positions, right?
It might have been although the fact that is it it's his wife, and she's a good looking woman, and I mean all that is a plus.
Right.
And it's yeah, it's look, and we know you know Curtis real well.
I've gotten to know Curtis through you.
The one good thing he has going for the people of the city know him.
I mean, uh uh more than enough people know him, so that if things switched around, he he's it's possible.
I mean he's been uh a major public figure in New York City since the 1980s when he was a kid, right?
Uh of course he's been on radio all that time as well, with a very, very big audience.
Right.
Um mayor, but I have to say, just as when I it's not just looking at the polls because I don't really don't trust polls anymore.
It's talking to that's what I people have counted them out.
So that's it's a terrible thing.
I mean, a campaign, before the campaign even started, they had him typecast and counted out.
It's very hard to overcome that.
It can be done, but it's very, very hard.
And usually you need a lot of money to do it.
Right.
And you have to be a superior campaigner.
And Curtis is a good campaigner, he's not a superior campaigner.
And look, you're the expert when it comes to uh the mayor's race in New York City.
There's nobody else I'd want to talk to.
And my I have some questions for you, mayor.
And maybe we'll see this in in some of the future ads.
What I would have liked to see more of, and and and you and I have talked about this, maybe testimonials.
And I know I don't want to play into the the race thing, but of course, New York is a very diverse city.
But Curtis has touched the lives of so many different people.
We got to remember you're in a very difficult spot here.
He only has four million dollars.
That guy can go in two weeks in New York television campaign.
Um he needs a an ad that knocks your socks off.
Yeah.
Which which I feel here here here, you you you want just off the top of my head.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So you gotta you gotta throw a uh uh you gotta throw a Terry Brad Sure Hale Mary Pass.
And um, how do you what do what do you do?
I think you uh you catch up to people's emotion on uh the city going to hell under Mondami, that this is the end of the city as we know it.
It'll never be New York again if we elect a communist.
Uh I think that I think the feeling is there to connect that quickly.
I mean, that could be the first five to eight seconds of the ad.
You got to connect with that emotion, you got to connect with the emotion of all the people that say to us uh how they can elect this people, this guy, how do they ever?
And then you gotta you've got to convince them that Curtis is the only real answer to that.
That this is your answer to the end of the city, but it's gotta be like an apocalyptic ad.
Right.
And you gotta take a shot at it because it's like as I said, it's like uh you got three seconds on a board, you got Lynn Swan, and uh he's gonna end up in the end zone, and you gotta get the ball.
You got somehow you gotta you gotta at least get that ball in the end zone so he can catch it.
You might not catch it, but you gotta get the ball in the end zone so he can catch it.
Right.
I think the way to go is to go with the big emotion, and the big emotion of this campaign is how is it possible that New York is going to elect a damn communist?
Do you think because this is you know New York is such a big city and and New Yorkers are focused on New York.
Would some what's happening in a place like Charlotte?
I don't you can't really play does that that can't that doesn't really play into the New York market.
Then the idea being mayor, you get someone like Mom Donnie, his policies, and you can even line them up with his words, right?
And then go to this Charlotte mayor, go to similar places and say, Look, folks, this is what you're looking at here.
You're looking at a future uh where they're letting criminals out, right?
The the Mom Donnie's on, he's saying it in these interviews, right?
Less people in jail, less focus on policing, more focus on whatever the hell he called those community engagement officers or whatever the is that can you play into that?
Is something like that?
Yeah, yeah, you can't, but you the the the real uh uh you need a genius to do it because you need to get it all done in one big ad.
I mean, those are a number of different, those are a number of different emotions, a number of different things.
If you had if you had like 20 million dollars, you could do it.
You could you could first you could the classic way to do it is you first build up Curtis's positives because you can't do negatives if you're net negative yourself because you go down, so you gotta build up Curtis's positives.
You should do biographical ads of Curtis with testimonials and yeah, early summer, and you could spend maybe a 30 of money on on that, and then and then the next third should be uh to take the big emotion of why people are so frightened of Mondami, get them even more frightened, and make Curtis the answer, and then go with that at the end.
Uh two great political consultants told me that the art of doing a great campaign is to know the final question to put in voters' minds, and you be the answer to it.
So if people walk into that booth and say, we are afraid that New York is gonna disappear under this communist, they're gonna vote against Mondami.
You gotta get them to vote for you.
Now they go three ways.
I don't know what...
Now let's there is also this little secret thing going around that the deal is already done, and Adams is gonna drop out.
And if Adams drops out, Curtis's, and they're gonna try to do it with with Cuomo.
So why is Adams attacking Cuomo as recently as yesterday?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I I don't think that's true.
I don't think what I'm saying is true.
I'm just telling you that there are people saying.
I don't know if people can overcome the barrier with Cuomo.
Right.
I mean the man, many people.
Many people are afraid of him.
Put those deaths of the thousands of elderly people, the fact that the nursing homes were his biggest contributor.
That's that's a hard thing to get over.
That's true.
The fact that he, you know, he's gonna run it on this crime thing.
He passed all the laws that made made New York City uh uh a big crime city again, and Adams actually brought it down a little bit.
Right.
Cuomo's an enabler.
Cuomo is to New York what Cooper and Stein are to North Carolina, he may not be a full-blown communist.
Stein shows up, he looks like a little boy too.
He's the guy who caused all this.
How does he even have the the balls to show up on television with this girl debt?
He killed her with the damn laws that he passed.
Right.
And so I just hears to say he's a moderate, that guy's not.
I mean, my goodness what a damn disaster he is.
And to do that to a great state like North Carolina, what the hell is wrong with North Carolina?
It used to be like a really sensible state.
Right.
I I think of Charlotte as the last 15 years, people moving down there in droves as a big city that's not this label.
They've been going to hell since they voted against uh O'Rourke.
That's right.
You know, you you are familiar with that.
That was what 20 years ago, 15 years ago.
Yeah, yeah, he was a great mayor, a great governor.
But it but in New York, right?
Don't you have to get two things done and time's running out?
You gotta you gotta show mom Donnie as the fraud that he is, right?
You don't attack yes, he's a communist and all those things, but he's a fraud, yeah.
He's a rich kid, and he and he was able to he was able to use some of these issues, affordability, uh to win that primary.
So if I'm Curtis, I'm taking on Mom Donnie on the issues he's been able to elevate to the front of this race, which is affordability.
Um really affordable, you know, the cost of living and affordability.
How how he's gonna make New York City more affordable by raising taxes on rich people, I have no idea.
You raise taxes on rich people, they leave.
The net result is they stop contributing all those riches to the economy.
So for the little bit of money you get from the taxes, you lose their you lose their everyday expenditures, which are enormous.
I mean, uh, they already pay like 90% of the taxes, and they probably account for about 90% of the economy in New York.
So now if you take rich people out, you no longer get their taxes, but more importantly, you don't get their contribution to your economy, and they're uh unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
It's unbelievable that we have to even.
I mean, what new the the people running for mayor in New York should be debating how how they're gonna get the budget under control, how they're gonna get back on on track in terms of uh crime reduction, make it permanent.
And and uh here, Adams has done some good things.
It's really it's really just a it's really just a tra uh a tra a tragedy.
It's a tragedy.
I mean, you can see when when when cities and states have good leaders, look at Florida with so many good governors in a row, including DeSantis now, and Scott before that, and Bush before that.
And look at look how the great shape that it's in, and all the people coming there and doesn't have to, it has a surplus, it doesn't have to worry about debt, and their schools are becoming the best in the country.
Used to be one time that nobody wanted to go to Florida because the schools were so terrible.
Now they're among the best in the country.
New York keeps dropping.
The more money they spend, the more New York drops to the middle to the bottom.
It's terrible.
AOC uh was the first one that signaled the decline of the city when we elected that bartender Jack S. Right as uh and now she's on her way to run it run running run running for president.
So I mean, she's another one that's A complete fraud.
She spends a fortune.
She uses she uses her pack and everything else to live like a princess, like a left-wing spoiled princess.
Now, is she gonna run for president?
Is that Senate seat?
Her is Chuck Schumer retiring.
Let me look this up.
Chuck Schumer can't win.
He's gonna he's gonna retire.
I think Chuck Schumer is not gonna go down losing.
I don't think.
I don't know.
How do I know?
I don't know.
Yeah, no, no, uh, he is not stepping down.
I cannot imagine that he can win.
Uh he has been such a traitor to his own people.
That it's gonna be that they have to walk out on.
Yeah, I mean, you couldn't be a self respecting Jewish person and vote for him.
I don't get it.
I mean, he walked out on his people in a time of ex existential threat for his own career, which is what his character is all about, which is not non-existence.
Unbelievable.
So you see, Mr. Z has got his little pals now with him.
Oh all the time.
He's got his little pals with him all the time.
Oh, oh, wait, wait.
You want to see Curtis?
You want to see Curtis and Trump way back?
Yeah.
Look.
Oh that's a good fact.
That's when I knew them.
And by the way, Mayor, you're a pragmatic.
We're pragmatic enough, but I know we're also very loyal to the boss and the president.
The fact that he doesn't get along with Trump, but I don't see him as like this deranged anti-Trump guy, right?
In a way, that should help him in New York City, right?
It's like, okay, you're allowed not to get along with someone, all right?
Leave he's not deranged.
Trump Trump would support him in a second.
Right.
If he thought he was gotta win.
Exactly.
He's not vehemently anti-Trump.
He just might disagree with his style.
I don't even know what it is.
I don't want to go to the real I actually strange because I'm I'm very friendly, of course, with the president.
Fairly with tear the I've never, I've never.
Oh, Dr. Maria.
So um I have I have to say that I think if the president legitimately, if the president legitimately thought that he could win, he'd be for him because he has no he has no more affection for Cuomo than he would have for Curtis.
It's been Curtis that's had the problem with uh not so much President Trump, but Donald Trump.
Um I don't think it's that I don't think it's as serious as the as the post made it.
But the post doesn't know where they're going either now.
I mean, they were for Adams.
And I think they realize that Adams is a lost cause.
So are they moving over toward Cuomo?
Boy, they were dead set against Cuomo.
It's gonna be very, very hard.
So we'll keep on top of it for you because I do think it has a lot to do with other cities, not so much national politics.
If anything, you know, it's a shame to say this, and the president has said it.
This is the best thing that could ever happen at the Republican Party, having a communist kook like this running in New York.
I mean, it becomes national news, and the rest of the country turns against the Democrat Party.
Sure, but I know you love your city way too much.
Yeah, of course I of course I do.
To let it be a sacrificial lamb for the city bag.
The city would be in trouble if it just had an average mayor right now.
It has such problems.
Well, and that's the well, it is in trouble because you do have an average mayor right now, probably below that.
He's less than an average mayor, actually.
And he's I'm not saying he's a crook, but he surrounded himself with people who obviously got way too much corruption for anybody to be doing anything very substantive to help the city.
Yes.
How do you come in?
How do you come in as uh a popular Democrat former cop with all the media on your side?
And by the end of your first term, you can't even run for re-election as a Democrat.
I mean, the guy's since his specialty is a group of people who know how to cut up homeless and uh and uh illegal alien contracts.
Yeah, I mean, that's his biggest contribution, and it's a massive amount of money he brought into the city for the homeless and for the aliens, and it ended up in the pockets of his pals.
And I question any mayor's contribution to the history of the city.
And partisan politics aside, this guy's wearing 10,000 suits, going to clubs till two in the morning, taking these junkets over to wherever the hell he's going.
Well, well, well, well, okay.
Sorry.
Mayor, okay, you had a few nice suits.
Is that what you're saying?
No, no, I'm what I'm saying is That's not fair.
I would take him if I if I had to over Mondami.
I mean, we've had crooks before.
I'm not saying he's a crook, but he sure as hell is surrounded by them.
Right.
No, I'm just I'm also I'm not saying he's a crook for wearing nice suits and going to the club.
I'm just saying that Congressie is basically saying that the squad should get the hell out of the Democrat Party.
Well, actually, he's focusing on Mondami, but he's also talking about Ocasio-Cortez.
He thinks they should leave the Democratic Party.
It's more likely that he's gonna have to leave the Democratic Party.
You know, Mondami doesn't have Schumer's support or Hakeem Jeffries either.
Which is which is um which is very strange for a candidate who's running for mayor of New York.
Well, we're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back, and we'll see how much soccer time we have.
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So uh what has happened to the autopen scandal?
This is a very, very big scandal.
It is a very uh horrible thing, and it's something that can't be allowed to happen.
We literally don't know if we had a president.
And uh pardons was signed 1,400, 1,500.
Now I know pardons are extremely controversial.
Uh I'm not one of those people that very down on pardons.
I used to have the pardon attorney working for me twice when I was in the Justice Department under Ford and Ronald and Ronald Reagan, and pardons have have a have a useful purpose in the criminal justice system, as do commutations.
Uh however, um Biden, as he did most things, pushed it to an extreme that was insane.
1500, 1600.
Even that alone, suppose even if they were just justified in some way, is kind of pushing it, doing it all at once.
But in any event, it seems as if he couldn't possibly have focused on them at all.
He didn't He didn't have a brain at that point.
And now we find out he didn't even sign them.
Now suppose, and it looks like he didn't know they were being signed.
So who gave these pardons?
An autopen?
Auto pens can't constitutionally give pardons, nor can uh Politbureau committees.
This is this requires an extraordinarily serious investigation.
This is not political lawfare or getting even or this goes to the integrity of our government.
Did he did he not sign these?
And what about the laws that he signed?
Did he sign those?
And the auto pen is for uh uh mass more or less courteous political responses.
It's not for signing important legislation or something as important as a pardon or commutation or treaty or well, how much of that was done.
And uh where's the burden of proof?
Uh that does uh get given given the circumstance we know about.
Do they have to justify these now?
I mean, are we?
This is not like a criminal case where we know the burden of proof.
It's got to get created for the first time because we never had this situation before.
But we have certainly enough evidence to know he didn't know what he was doing.
We have the evidence that there were so many he couldn't possibly have concentrated on them.
So now, do uh is there enough evidence that they should be thrown out?
It definitely has to be examined, including any significant regulations, uh bills that he signed.
They put our country in great jeopardy, as did the Democrats in what they did here, and it's being treated so lightly it's gonna happen again.
And it shouldn't happen again.
We should go through these things once, and once uh we catch up with them, then we should that that's what it means to create a more perfect union.
Of course, we also went through the crookedest president we've ever had, and we did nothing about it.
Sold our country out left and right, including to China.
Uh this isn't this, and and uh the president's people should not be frightened away by the media saying, oh, this is uh playing politics and this is getting even, and they're gonna say that as a defense to the people uh that they corrupted this country with.
This isn't this isn't getting even.
This isn't lawfare.
This is the actual proper administration of justice for the purpose that it exists, which is deterrence and punishment.
Deterrence and justice.
Well, with that thought, we'll leave you with that, because we have a long trip ahead of us.
Uh we're going uh down to New York to get ready for September 11, and we'll be on tomorrow night from New York.
Um it's always uh uh very solemn and very uh difficult.
Uh I don't mind telling you that, because I can see you, my friends.
And um we'll try to keep on top of the things that they don't tell you.
Like England doesn't have free speech anymore.
And we don't we we get Democrats back again.
We're not gonna have free speech because we didn't have it for the four years before Trump.
I sure as hell didn't.
So you pray hard for the people of Israel to do the right thing and taking out uh and making an attempt to take out and let's hope they were successful, the heads of Hamas, so they can get their hostages back or so they don't have hostages in the future.
And um pray for the people of Iran.
Uh that great demonstration in Belgium shows there's an alternative to those animals that run Iran and pray and pray uh pray for the uh pray for the people in Ukraine who seem to be forgotten at this point, and they're just being killed wantonly by uh mass murder of Putin.
And pray for the people of the United States.
Look at what we what we went through, covered up for three weeks.
In uh in North Carolina.
Can the Democrat Party be any more corrupt than it really than we see?
Every day we see more and more examples that the party party rotted from the head down, and now it's a question of how far down.
Well, sure rotten in North Carolina.
Those two governors, the governor, the attorney general, now the governor and the mayor.
I don't know what they are.
But they sure know how to create a dangerous atmosphere in which people get killed.
That shouldn't be the case.
They should be doing the opposite.
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This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country, a country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.
We're able to talk.
We're able to analyze.
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