Hello, this is Rudy Giuliani and this is the Rudy Giuliani show on Lindell TV following a, like they all are nowadays, a very eventful day.
I don't know of any, oh my goodness, I guess maybe we go back to Lincoln with the beginning of the Civil War, but I don't know of any president that has had more eventful first.
How many days do you think it is now?
It was 100 days a while back, right?
So it's seven months, right?
Seven, six months, really, because it came in almost toward the end of January.
A very eventful, heavy year.
I mean, really amazing, amazing.
Amazing, Amazing, Amazing, Amazing, Amazing.
So on Friday, on Friday, he's off in Alaska.
And I tell you, you have to understand something about President Trump, whether you're a supporter, neutral, or an enemy even.
This is an extraordinarily complex guy.
It doesn't seem that way because he's so direct and he talks very, very openly and he talks in a way that that everybody can understand.
But because of his negotiating skills, there are always several layers to whatever he's proposing.
So I think I have figured out what happened on Friday.
I didn't see it completely on Friday.
because we didn't know what happened at the meeting.
But now that I've been able to piece together as much as I can get on what happened inside that meeting between him and Putin surprised them in a way that appears to be a good way.
Now, you never know, because Putin's a liar, whereas we're stuck with the fact that we may have different levels of positions we'll switch to, but we're not lying.
But I think here he's not.
We're down to too many serious issues that could carry over a great deal of animosity for his country if he plays around too much.
So Here's what happened at that meeting that they didn't expect.
didn't expect that he was going to agree to what is a very, very, um, a very strong security package for Ukraine.
In fact, if you look at the security package, you would have said beforehand, he would never agree to that because it's just about like pre-existing And even when it was first described, when they came out of the meeting, I thought people were speaking a little loosely about it.
But now that you hear the president and everyone else and what was described to the European leaders and even what comes out of Russia, I think this is exactly what was offered.
Somewhere in that meeting, Putin said, and I think it was connected to Donbass, if, if, if,
Then I'm willing and there are two reasons why, about three reasons why Ukraine wouldn't give it.
One, they don't want to give away any of their land because they're giving up their sovereignty.
Understandable.
Number two, the area is a allegedly, and I'm not sure, I'd have to check this, but it's a disproportionately mineral rich area.
which are the areas we're looking for in the deal that we did with Ukraine.
So it would take a big, disproportionate piece out of that.
And it would be of benefit to them to have that.
And number three, it gets them past what has been an impenetrable Ukrainian defense line that they have spent the last, what are the three years trying to get through?
And they can't.
They haven't moved that.
I'll show you from the beginning of this.
They've had about a third more territory than they have right now.
Russia did.
when they were up into Kharkiv and outside of Kiev.
But in all the back and forth where they had more territory, then they had less territory, now they have..
a little bit more territory they've never been able to penetrate that line and ukraine is pretty confident that that will hold and ukraine is also very suspicious as was europe as we were that he wants that so that he can get beyond that defense line and then that'll give him an easy an easy entry into the rest of ukraine The minute,
however, he agrees to a security arrangement that would involve whatever Ukraine wants basically European countries America and a A provision not the same as but similar to Article 5 in the NATO Treaty which is if he crosses any of those lines that are eventually agreed on we would defend Ukraine
then that's effectively one of the main things that Ukraine gets out of NATO.
Now, they want to be in NATO for other reasons as well, but that is really the main one.
So when NATO...
which, as you can see, is just as difficult to negotiate as a treaty.
That's what they've been trying to negotiate in Gaza.
When we now have the security mechanism that they never thought they could get, that Putin said he would never agree to.
He's given up, so please don't remind him.
So when they painted this as a big victory for Putin, of course, the press is so, first of all, anything Trump does, they're going to criticize.
But number two, they're so damn stupid, and they don't even have a memory.
It's like they're all got Biden's disease.
Remember when Putin said Ukraine, the only way he would agree to end this war is if Ukraine was demilitarized.
He wanted their army paired back.
He didn't want them to have any other armies there from any other countries.
He wanted them to become sort of a, he wanted them to be emasculated.
Wanted them to be kind of like Japan for a while was after the war or Germany.
So that there'd be no army left.
So that anytime, as soon as Trump leaves the office, he can come in and take them.
So this is a very far cry from that when he says, okay, you give me Donbass.
And you can do what you want with security, but no NATO.
And that's how Trump jumped ahead to, okay, you're going to do it.
you're going to do that and then what are we talking about here?
I mean, it is certainly possible for Ukraine to move those security fortifications five miles, ten miles.
It's not a great deal of territory that they're looking for and construct it at the new area.
I think it also is not impossible that they would agree to an equivalent amount of territory from one of the other areas that they have that they would give back.
So let's take a look.
I think I can do this better with this map, Ted.
If we want to.
Okay.
All right.
So there's Russia.
Easy to see, right?
There's Russia.
And if you look at the flesh-colored area, pink, whatever you want to call it.
That's the area that they have, that Russia now controls.
The yellow line, that squiggly yellow line that runs down there, is the dividing line.
Just to be clear.
And then the green areas, the areas that were once controlled by Russia during the course of this war, particularly at the beginning, that as soon as Ukraine organized itself, they knocked them out of there.
Remember, they were surrounding Kiev.
Kiev is the capital, up at the top there.
area which comes right down from Belarus.
They had a couple of other areas on the northern border.
You see the green linesen area right below Russia, that's Kharkiv.
That's the second largest city.
They had that city.
They had the outskirts of that city running all the way over to Donbass.
Ukraine won that back and has not given it back.
Actually, there's some that they had won back that they've lost.
The area that you see in red with the black lines, that's the area of that would give him a complete control over Donbass.
Donbass is valuable to him for the reasons that I told you.
Mineral rich, although there are other areas of Ukraine that also are mineral rich, we'd have to take a good look at precisely what did it, what, what, what, what are they, so what, what, how much more is that going to add or subtract?
But most importantly, that's the line.
have never been able to pierce.
And I think a piece is worth it to him because he may not be able to get that.
Now, the question is how strategically important is it to keep that?
Realistically, I think everyone realizes, including Ukraine, although they're not going to concede it right now before before they get to the trilateral meetings, that they're going to have to trade land.
And if they were asking for something else, I would imagine, maybe, oh, just go a little south of that, it wouldn't be as big a problem.
But that area is exactly the area where the fortifications are.
So by agreeing to a security arrangement that involves a whatever type of pledge we and our allies all want to make to Ukraine and Russia is not objecting to it for the purpose of the peace agreement then you accomplish as much as you would accomplish on the question of security if they were in NATO.
Now you don't accomplish all the other things that go along with being in NATO and we haven't talked about the EU.
Maybe we should mention the EU.
But when they painted this as a complete victory for Putin, that was really.
a very misleading picture.
Putin is giving up as much as he's getting.
I didn't think unless he were really beaten up pretty badly with sanctions, he would ever agree to a security arrangement like this.
The other part of this is I didn't think that Trump would throw in as much as he's throwing in of United States backing this up.
Now, I don't think he's going to have to put troops in.
I think these will be European troops.
Germany and France have already volunteered to do it.
But I think it's going to be American equipment.
Now, we'll cover that with they'll pay for it.
But I mean, who's got the best arms in the world?
Come on.
So there's no restriction on that.
We can put anything in there we want to protect them.
We can put in a missile defense system equivalent to what Israel has.
So it becomes a very, very interesting negotiation and one where you can see a line from here to peace if a few more things fall into place.
The other thing that was amazing was to see, I don't know that I've ever seen.
all those world leaders at one time in the White House, Ted.
I mean, if you think of Yalta, it was Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin.
But this was, this was a, this was a, This was Italy and Germany and the UK and France and Finland.
And then, of course, the two representatives of the two major organizations, NATO, with Trump's now close friend, Ruder.
And he's like a pal.
And then, of course, the head of the European Union, who he has spent a great deal of time with.
I've never seen them so unified since I guess they overthrew Russia, they overthrew the Soviet Union.
I mean, there was a little, only one discordant chord was Chancellor Mears of Germany saying he would like us to put back on the table a ceasefire.
Now, He has been in many, many, many ways very, very good.
Particularly, he's actually the best on Israel of all.
And so I'm not going to get too angry at him for wanting to make that point.
It's a fair point.
But you've got to make a calculation here.
If you think there's a straight line you can walk and you can see when you have a mind like Trump who thinks, you know, 14 points ahead, you can see a road.
and maybe the others can't see it.
All that flattery that went on, you can see why he did it.
So they said, oh, it's terrible.
Look, Trump invited him.
How about this?
Putin won the negotiations because he got to come to the United States.
That's ridiculous.
That's considered a sign of submission when you have to go to the other guy's country.
Putin didn't want to do that.
Putin started with some neutral place.
And that's why at the end, he threw in that, oh, next time in Moscow, next time in Moscow.
So that, I mean, that is absurd.
I saw that in so many...
I wish I was a professor and they were my students because I'd fail them all.
That's idiotic, his coming.
It also gave Trump a chance to do what they like to do.
And remember who we're dealing with here.
If they took Trump...
Trump to Russia, if he goes there and they fly 15 planes overhead, not going to impress them at all.
We don't do that.
We don't have...
We don't have these parades where we show off our military might.
We try to keep it secret.
They do that all the time, which means they get impressed by it.
I thought those planes flying over, and I actually thought even more important, What we did in Iran, they can't do.
that.
They don't have bombers like that.
They don't have 30,000 tonne bombs like we do.
And I guarantee you, they don't have the expertise to be able to do what we did.
Our Air Force is on a level way beyond, way beyond any of them, which is why
And Trump now, first of all, the deal that they did, massive billions of dollars deal on minerals gives us a great interest in keeping large portions of, you know, making sure Ukraine keeps large portions of its mineral wealth.
We're going to need that in our effort to compete with China.
So this is this.
There's a level of brilliance to this that completely eludes the jackasses and the unfair people.
Now look at that.
So you put that one man in the middle and those other men and women to his right and left together.
that's the united states of america the biggest economy in the world and the greatest military in the history of the world and you put them all together including uh the the the the woman who runs uh uh eu which they all belong to do you know that's a bigger economy than china They just don't work together.
They look like they're working together now with the big guy in the middle, huh?
This was the guy who was going to blow up NATO.
Also, when Putin sees that, when Putin sees that, he knows a couple of those people really hate him.
I mean, that's one of the reasons Mears threw in, go back to the ceasefire.
And he knows the only friend he's got there, in quotes, is Trump.
Well, how the hell do you think you negotiate if you don't get the guy to talk?
All of them together, all that whole little group there, minus the guy with the red tie, have spent two and a half years killing a million people and they haven't had one negotiation.
The only reason they're negotiating to save lives is because of the guy with the red tie in the middle.
And he had to bring him into it, kicking and screaming.
Meanwhile, they really had no plan to win.
I mean, it's outrageous.
There's no plan to win.
They didn't give the little guy to his right the arms that he could use to really push Russia back because Biden, well, I don't know why Biden, who the hell knows why Biden does any of the things that he does?
But we will later, because I don't want to get us bogged down too much in details, I will later, either toward the end of this show or if we move over into the 8 o'clock hour, I'll give you like about a five minute little sort of history of Donbass and just exactly why Donbass is important.
and how that switch by Putin is the main thing that has happened.
That has changed the dynamic of this.
Now, could he be putting it out there by playing for time and then withdraw it?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he could.
So, but we have to, you've got to negotiate what you got on the table.
And then, of course, then you have to react if it blows up.
And I don't think there's any doubt that...
Trump would have stuck with his seat bar.
And so I would say you might as well erase all the discussion over the weekend, because none of these geniuses could figure out what I just told you.
Extraordinary president.
Don't think Don't think, you know, you're going to figure him out in the first inning.
He's willing to lose two, three innings in order to win the game and you look at the him applauding for putin putin saying that there never would be a there never been a war if he were president happens to be true by the way the deeds point that in fact the best proof that wouldn't have been a war if he were the president is when he was the president there wasn't a war and the last three guys other
than him there was a war I mean, gee, you don't have to be a genius to figure that one out.
Even I figured that out, Ted.
But the point that I'm making is there was a lot of talk by the airhead liberal left-wing jackasses about how, oh, Putin flattered him and Putin, I don't know, like, impressed him and he was being overly.
Well, he was doing the same thing with Putin.
Doing exactly the same thing with Putin.
You don't reach an agreement by cursing and screaming at each other.
A lot of reaching an agreement, particularly one as sensitive and complex as this is personal relationships is really understanding another person and knowing how to play them and making them want to agree or putting them in a position where they have to agree easier as they want to also somebody's going to have to write but
they won't after all of the conversation all the all the how he's going to split this alliance up That's the most united they've been in a very long time.
And by the way, They are by far more effective now than they were at any time in the last 20 or 30 years.
With the amount of money they're committing, the fact that they're going to take up a lot of the burden for the security in terms of the troops, the amount of money they're spending on arms, not only are they united, but that's a much more powerful fighting force both already and as we go forward.
Douglas Murray wrote a really interesting column about this.
I thought it was very, very brief, very concise.
And of course, he backs it up with a lot of things about it, including some things where he wasn't, he was a little concerned about some of the things, but he said, but it was a start.
You don't, you don't, solve a war unless you get the negotiation.
negotiation started.
nobody's been able to get it started.
And I think that's what Douglas meant here in this column.
And he did get Putin to say that he's sincerely interested in ending the conflict.
something that Putin described as a tragedy.
Now, we can doubt the sincerity of that, particularly since he attacked Ukraine in three different places the next day but there was no ceasefire and
And well so I think today was much more than a start.
was again unexpected or at least not on the table before and that is the American involvement in the security guarantee and and and really they're going to be the backup they're going to be American equipment
European boots on the ground and the backup of America if God forbid something goes wrong and also in order to protect our ever increasing reliance on Ukraine for rare minerals that we're going to need in our arm.
arms race and AI race with China.
So Ted, shall we play a little of the president and Zelensky?
And quite a bit different than last time, Ted?
Much so, much so.
Yeah, let's hear from both men.
Let's start with SOT-1.
This is President Trump.
So President Trump.
How much more is the United States willing to give Ukraine?
And President Zelensky, how much more do you want?
Well, I'll start off just by saying we're not giving anything now.
We're selling weapons.
This is something before, I guess the number is well over $300 billion.
I was under Joe Biden, a corrupt politician, not a smart man, never was.
By the way, go back 40 years.
He was not a smart man 40 years ago either, but now he's in particular bad.
This was done by a corrupt administration that shouldn't have been in, and frankly, if the right results of the election were given, if I were president, this war would have never taken place.
And he would have been very happy because he would have liked to have seen, I mean, they went through hell.
He went through hell.
This war would never have happened and the people that were killed, a couple of million people, a lot of people with soldiers and everything else, and the military.
Yes, this is so, so important and I'm happy that we discussed it this track with President Trump and I hope that we will find decisions.
And then what is very important that all the sensitive things, territorial and so on, we will discuss on the level of leaders during trilateral meeting and President Trump will try to organize such meeting and he said that he will come or not come.
Ukraine will be happy if you want to be there.
I will be there.
Thank you.
And I think this is very important.
Yes.
So security guarantees bring kids back and all our people, not only.
And so that's a little bit from today of the president.
Mr. Zelensky, President Zelensky.
So it is...
It is quite...
It is quite clear that...
That...
I mean, if you think of what's been discussed, even hypothetically at this point, we're quite close to a deal.
But I can see one that would fit, that would fit where the, the, the, the, the sort of marker that Secretary of State Rubio put down, that both of them are going to have to give something and get something.
So what are they giving?
Well, first of all, Ukraine is going to have to agree to give them that extra area of Donbass and Crimea.
I think the rest of the territory is up for negotiation.
That's the sense I got from what Trump has been saying all weekend, which is this is in this is in zelensky's control all he has to do is say no Crimea, no NATO.
Now, what was missing from that, and I don't know if he was assuming the other, because it was the condition on which, the way it was described in one of the leaks of the meeting was, Ukraine would, as part of the deal, seed land currently occupied by Russia.
and they would That was in the Telegraph the day after.
And it was confirmed by the Russians.
Putin reportedly agreed to the arrangement according to the Telegraph and then a number of others.
They were the first to report it.
As one of the security guarantees for Ukraine, the American side proposed a non-NATO Article 5 type guarantee, which Putin agreed to, according to the source.
And I think that's the point at which, because another leak said that Trump switched gears somewhere in the first hour of the meeting from the ceasefire going right to a peace agreement.
I think that's what brought him, when you see that, you can see a way to get right to a peace agreement.
if you can think a little faster than everybody else.
Because you say, they don't want to give up Donbass because they need that.
But that security line is great, but it's only for a little portion.
The security agreement that they can put in place, assuming again, that Russia is not misleading, is much more effective than just having Donbass.
It's essentially, as I said, getting the non, the non-having, the non-article five, article five.
So.
Whitcoff described it, of course, over the weekend, and it's exactly as Steve described it.
And people thought maybe he was, it was like our idea, but Russia didn't agree.
And but it looks like Russia did agree.
So Ukraine will have to give up that piece of territory.
It'll have to.
accede to Russia keeping.
Right now, Russia says everything that they took, plus that little area in Donbass.
But I am absolutely certain that you could get Russia to give back some land, if that's important to them.
I never thought land, believe it or not, except for Donbass was that important to Ukraine, except the concept of it.
I think the security guarantee.
was much more important.
Much more important.
So if that holds.
If that isn't a bunch of hot air, then you're on your way to an agreement.
And President Trump made an abrupt announcement about two hours, I'm sorry, into his private, roughly three hour meeting with Putin, declaring that he now would like to move to a full peace deal in the Ukraine rather than a ceasefire.
He's a good guy.
He expressed concern that all of the things they would have to negotiate with the ceasefire would take them away from being able to negotiate a peace agreement.
How long would it be?
Would it be complete?
They were talking about just a ceasefire with an aerial ceasefire, but not on-the-ground ceasefire.
There could easily be violations of the ceasefire that then would interfere with a peace agreement.
And surprisingly, there was no pushback from the Russians.
Of course, this will give them a chance to grab a little more territory.
That's the downside of it.
There's nothing here that is all one way.
This is a classic agreement between two parties that are pretty much in a certain stalemate.
It is true that Russia could pick up, could nibble here and there, nibble, nibble, nibble, nibble.
But if they thought they could take Donbass, that area we showed you, if they thought they could take it, they wouldn't be sitting there talking.
right so
out, the only thing that has to be worked out is how does Ukraine and all of them, United States, Europe, how do they describe their recognition of whatever it is that Russia is going to come away with?
Because it all really is pretty much in violation of international law.
So the analysts are saying they won't do a de jure, they'll do a de facto de jure, I mean a legal.
They'll just recognize the facts.
Will Russia be satisfied with that?
Now, Russia also, and of course, this is not worth the paper it's written on, but nothing is worth the paper it's written on.
That's why you have the security guarantee.
He has agreed not to attack any European country.
He will agree to attack, not to attack any European country.
Now, again, all of these things have, in all of these countries, it all has to do with, you know, who's going to be be running the country and what's and what are they going to live up to it aren't they but that also would be subjected to this entire rather impressive alignment of nations that make up the EU is the second richest governmental
association in the world the United States is the richest Russia's not even number three.
That's China.
Europe, Europe, well.
Well, the European leaders, I think, came over scratching their heads a little and rather encouraged by Trump, by Trump taking, we're going to put that right off, by Trump taking the position that he was open to joining the guarantees.
And as this analyst points out, if that worked out, you'd end up with a Korea-style outcome, which would amount to a failure for a failure for Putin.
Putin would not get what he really wants, which is number one to take all of Ukraine as a way of securing him against any further incursions from the West and as a launching pad to move on should he want to take Estonia,
Latvia, Lithuania, all of them concerned that he would do that now can rest a little bit easier that number one he's not going to go beyond at least for now he's not going to go beyond where he is plus he's going to he's going not he's not going to object to as part of the agreement they're setting up a very elaborate defense system and
i think this is a very precious uh uh going into this the greatest danger for ukraine isn't just losing its east and south.
It's that what remains wouldn't be able to resist a third Russian invasion following those of 2014 and 2022.
Well, this agreement gives them freedom to put together whatever their imagination can encompass and their allies will agree to protect and defend them and also to protect and defend their allies.
So shall we take a short break and we will be back very shortly.
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Thank you.
Well, we'll see where this goes.
I will also get a sense because, of course, we all was thrown off and should be by the attacks that Russia launched overnight and in really far-flung regions of of of Ukraine, including at civilian targets.
I, as you know, have a special fondness for Kharkiv.
Kharkiv was hit.
Two children were killed there, some civilians and about 10 wounded.
I think they also attacked Zaporizhzhia, which is way over in the southern, central, southern area of Ukraine.
the There's a different, this is not the time to raise issues that get us away from getting to the bottom line here and getting to the end of this.
But there is a difference between European armies, Western armies, and Russia, although it's a European country, kind of, maybe it was all that Cossack and Genghis Khan.
Wow.
It seems that I don't really like to kill soldiers.
I like to kill civilians.
Well, so a lot of people said how, you know, the biggest problem for Zelensky is how can he keep Trump happy and tell Trump, I can't give up Donbass?
Well, assuming, assuming.
He can have the security guarantees that he didn't think he could get.
Unless I'm missing something, he can caveat.
what are we giving up in minerals and how is that going to be compensated?
I'd be right now if I were President Trump and I'm sure he has, boy, he thinks of everything.
It's like, you know, have you thought of it?
Yes, yes, yes.
Right now I would be calculating if haven't been done already.
Where can you make up for that?
And when you think about it, it isn't that, I mean, this country, This is why people fought over it so much.
This is an extraordinarily wealthy country.
Just exactly why.
I mean, it's pound for pound, acre for acre, it's much wealthier than Russia.
Somehow you go into a big, big flat plain from there all the way to Moscow, which is another reason why Moscow is very vulnerable.
Moscow is a very, very easy city, which lured both Hitler and Napoleon into trying to capture.
What they didn't count on was having to get through Ukraine and then having to get through the rest of the area, the other 400 miles from Ukraine to Russia and the guerrilla war that could be fought there, and also the accumulated wear down of having to have a supply line in that terrible situation.
So I want to say that the letter that was sent by the First Lady was beautiful.
And I don't know that it would touch Putin because I'm not sure he's got a heart.
or a conscience like Bush thought.
But it would affect the Russian people.
Russian people are religious people.
The Russian people are rough, tough people, but they're good people.
All people are good people at the core.
The Russians, the Russian people have been a victim of the Tsars and the crazy, vicious communists.
And now there's whatever he is, his own individual dictator.
I don't know if he's really a communist or a fascist, but he sure as hell is a murderer.
But this letter appealing to him to end this thing because of the way this is affecting children, not the least of which is to mention that there are 19,500 plus children that have been taken out of the Ukraine.
And I'm not going to say they're all being used for disgusting, horrible, perverse purposes, but a lot of them are.
And there's a great deal of organized crime in Russia, maybe more than organized crime in Ukraine, too.
But not everything in Russia is on a much bigger scale, right?
Russia is, what, four times the size.
Yeah, four times the size.
These kids are being used for drug trafficking.
These kids are being used for sex.
These kids are being used for just as slaves.
are being used for for adoptions you know for rich families that are looking for kids you know pay a fortune for them And who knows what else?
So the attacks, the attacks that took place were in Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia.
And you know, the funniest thing is that just a week ago, when I was in Las Vegas and we took a trip to the Hoover Dam, I met a very nice couple, a lawyer and his wife who live in Zaporizhzhia.
And I really hadn't, I mean, I've heard of Zaporizhzhia has come up quite a bit lately because it's the area they're trying to get, they're trying to add Zaporizhzhia.
and they haven't been able to get it.
But I asked them how often, I didn't think at the beginning of the war they were hit that much.
They said they've been hit almost every day.
I mean, it isn't like a major, it isn't like a, it isn't like they bomb the whole city, but they'll hit a building or two every day.
And he said, we really have reduced casualties here because you see the casualties for the Russians are much higher.
We've reduced casualties because we've really become very disciplined at what the English were able to do during the Second World War.
We get ourselves into, you know, we get good warning.
And we get ourselves into, you know, defensive positions pretty fast.
But they did lose civilians.
They did lose civilians.
This probably went up because this was an early morning account.
The Russian drone strike in Kharkov involved dozens of people that were injured.
Zaporizhia, three people were killed.
It injured 20 people.
So why are we killing while we're talking about peace?
I guess that's the way Russians make peace.
I hope.
we're not getting hosed.
We could be, and then we have to have a strategy for how to get around that, but we've got to play this out.
So we're going to.
go over to X to continue a little more discussion on this and then some very, very other interesting things like X's comment to Trump that he's not going to attack Taiwan while Trump is president.
then he has reported to have said but i'm very patient so not not as if we've solved it we just put it off a little which actually has We'll take a look at D.C. There's plenty of stuff going on.
Going on other than this, as you know, What a world.
And what a great job this president is doing in unraveling it.
This is complicated stuff.
It's also very, very difficult and very, very stressful, but very important.