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America's Mayor Live (722): Mayor Rudy Giuliani in His Own Words
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Good evening and welcome to America's Mayor Live.
I'm Ted Goodman in for Mayor Rudy Giuliani who is on assignment.
But don't fear, you're gonna hear plenty from Mayor Giuliani tonight.
Take a trip with me down memory lane as we hear from the mayor in his own words throughout the years.
Now we're gonna skip a good chunk of his life due to time constraints.
And we're gonna take you to 1985, New York City.
Next tonight, we have a profile.
Our subject is Rudolph Giuliani, United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
It was Giuliani who flew to Tucson last week to get testimony from Joseph Bonanno for the upcoming trial of alleged leaders of organized crime in New York.
Bonanno wouldn't talk, claiming ill health, and a judge sent him to jail.
As the chief federal prosecutor in his area, Giuliani comes across like the Hollywood stereotype of a tough, dedicated crime buster.
june missal reports his performance produces mixed reactions Rudy Giuliani is a man of many dimensions.
He loves listening to classical music, and he loves listening to opera.
Probably it's genetic.
I think if you're Italian, there has to be an interest in opera just because in your promozo.
A Yankee fan, since he was three, he also loves baseball.
I love to play baseball.
I love to watch baseball.
I love to talk about baseball.
I love to read about it.
And he loves being the tough prosecutor out to get the bad guys.
I think that's one of the exhilarations of being a United States Attorney to stay like you can be the good guy.
That's why he left Washington to be the Justice Department's man in Manhattan.
I am tired of being asked over and over again, which type of crime is more dangerous?
Violent crime or white-collar crime?
Organized crime or public corruption?
Drug trafficking or arms trafficking.
All of these areas of crime are dangerous and destructive of our society.
Dangerous crime is what Rudy Giuliani's job is all about.
His office is the largest U.S. attorney's office in the country, and the challenge he faces is just as big.
We have to do securities fraud because we have two stock markets here in New York.
If we don't do it, nobody's going to do it.
We have to do drug work because we have a big drug problem in this city.
And we have to do organized crime work because we have five organized crime families that have decided since the turn of the century to locate themselves here in New York and have acquired a tremendous amount of political power, economic power, social power, and all sorts of other kinds of power that is very unhealthy for our society.
Organized crime is where Giuliani has received the most attention.
In 1984, it was a pizza connection case.
Alleged members of the Sicilian mafia were indicted for using pizza parlors as fronts to spread heroin in the United States.
In 1985, his targets include names like Paul Castellano, Anthony Tony Ducks Perala, and Anthony Fat Tony Salerno.
This fall in federal court, Giuliani will personally prosecute perhaps the biggest case of his entire career, the so-called mafia commission case.
For the first time, the government is not just pointing the finger at alleged mob leaders, but at the very structure of the mafia.
The indictment alleges an interfamily board of directors governing illegal mob operations.
While few of his organized crime cases have come to trial yet, his's, like the commission case, have attracted a lot of publicity.
Something Giuliani says is vital for what his office does.
First, we can expose them.
That is a very, very important ingredient in taking some of their power away, not all of their power, because as I said, they operate through secrecy.
It is also very important for the public to see what we do and that we aren't always failures, that we aren't always making mistakes, that in fact we can do things that are effective, that the organized crime people or the corrupt politicians or the corrupt businessmen don't control the system.
But attracting publicity has also attracted criticism.
Giuliani frequently holds a press conference after he files an indictment, a practice New York attorney Gerald Stern believes is unethical.
While Stern is the head of the State Commission on Judicial Conduct, he speaks for himself and not the organization.
The indictment should speak for itself.
There's no need for Mr. Giuliani or any other prosecutor to embellish or enlarge on the indictment and give the background of the defendant an implied guilt.
Question.
Rudy Giuliani makes an indictment.
Rudy Giuliani calls a press conference.
Right.
Is that proper?
Sure.
Assuming that I follow the rules that are laid down and I don't reveal evidence that was obtained in the grand jury, that I don't reveal things that aren't part of the public record, then I'm permitted to do that.
I should do that, and I think there's a tremendous social benefit from doing that.
I have no objection to his going after bad guys, even those who he considers to be bad guys, but he shouldn't say at a press conference that they are bad guys.
He shouldn't refer to their backgrounds.
He shouldn't report or imply that they have criminal records.
He shouldn't call them the mafia if the indictment accuses them of being the mafia.
He cannot therefore assume that they are the mafia.
They admit being members of the commission.
They admit being heads of the families.
They identify themselves as bosses, under bosses.
On these tapes, they use the word mafia.
They use the word La Casa Nostra.
I think these tapes put to rest an awful lot of myths and romanticizing that has gone on about the mafia and about the mob.
Did you, at that press conference, tell the words or say what some of these tapes revealed?
The only things I talked about at the press conference were things that had already been revealed, either in an affidavit or in bail proceedings.
I'm very familiar with the rules, both from the outside and the inside, and I even drafted some of them.
And I usually have a very good reason for why I was able to reveal something.
And I also have a very good reason for why I say no comment.
Organized crime problems are nothing new to Ruda Giuliani.
He looks out the window of his Manhattan office.
He can see across the river to Brooklyn, where he was born, the only child of an Italian family.
When he was six, the family moved to the suburbs in Long Island.
He remembers being told stories about how his great-grandfather had been approached by the mafia.
It happened to my great-grandfather when he was an immigrant in Brooklyn, and the Black Hand at that time wanted him to pay protection money to them and told him that he couldn't remain in the tobacco business unless he paid them a large percentage of what he was earning.
So that when people say there is no mafia and there is these organizations don't exist, I mean, I know from my history that there is such a thing, and I know what it does and what it can do.
Although Giuliani denies it, many have speculated that his own ethnic roots led him to be tough on crime.
Father Alan Flaca has been a close friend of Giuliani's since high school.
I know that Woody's dad had very powerful feelings about the fact that Italian Americans who were involved in illegal activities, he felt, very powerfully felt, gave a bad name to the vast majority of decent Italian Americans who were working hard to make a good living and to raise their families.
And he felt that he suffered by that.
It was very interesting to me that he was not so much angry at those who were prejudiced as he was angry at those Italian Americans who created the opportunity for others to be prejudiced.
In order to get this job, Giuliani took a demotion.
He had spent two years at the Justice Department in Washington overseeing all the U.S. attorneys in the country.
Now he's one of them.
Giuliani decided to sacrifice the policymaking power for a more hands-on position to get back to the courtroom where he feels the real action is.
Giuliani is known for being tough, smart, warm, and hardworking.
He drives both himself and his staff hard.
Jim should require that we submit an affidavit.
So far, no one has yet been willing to submit an affidavit saying that this is it.
You have tied up all of my assets, therefore I can't afford an attorney.
I think that's real funny issue.
He puts in about 12 hours a day and frequently works on the weekends.
He admits to being a worker hard, but says he's not a perfectionist.
He's not a perfectionist?
He is.
I think that one of his great gifts, in fact, is his ability to invite perfection from others.
Rudy has a gift for attracting people to himself.
He has a gift for making you interested in what he's interested in.
His enthusiasm and curiosity are contagious.
It's like sparks flying from a fire.
One person who caught.
Wow.
So that's Mayor Giuliani, of course, in his crime fighting days.
I say days, but he continues to this day, doesn't he?
So now we're going to move on to the late 80s, 1989, to be exact.
Then U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani, the late 80s, he finishes up as U.S. Attorney and decides to run for mayor.
On the Republican side, you have Mayor Giuliani.
On the Democrat side, you have three-term incumbent Ed Koch running against David Dinkins.
Ed Koch loses to Dinkins, something like 50% to 42, 8% voted.
This is the Democrat primary, 1989.
Koch loses to Dinkins, right?
Koch, he's in his running for his fourth term.
His administration is mired in scandal.
U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani prosecuted some of these guys, including some of the borough presidents and members of that Democrat political machine in New York.
So you have Mayor Giuliani running against David Dinkins in a race that, fair or not, quickly became about race.
So here's a little bit of the mayor.
This is 1989 going into 1993.
Thank you.
May 17, 1989.
At his alma mater Bishop Lachlan Memorial High School, Rudy Giuliani declares his candidacy for mayor of New York City.
As the most famous law enforcement figure in America since J. Edgar Hoover, Giuliani had attained an almost mythical status through his work as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
In 1985, he successfully prosecuted the Five Families, the notorious Italian mafia syndicate, with mob bosses like Fat Tony Dalerno and Big Paul Castellano.
He prosecuted Wall Street crooks, including the billionaire Michael Milken and Ivan Bozki, the real-life inspiration for Gordon Gecko.
From corrupt party bosses to socialites, Giuliani went after them all.
As he announced his candidacy, he seemed like the only incorruptible figure who could save crime-ravaged New York.
When asked after his announcement why he wanted to move from the U.S. Attorney's Office to City Hall, he cited his desire to be a champion of the poor.
He said that even as a prosecutor, he could not ease crushing poverty or end homelessness or treat drug addicts or help people with aid.
Afterward, Rudy made one of his first campaign stops at a homeless shelter that predominantly housed black and brown New Yorkers.
He later attacked incumbent Mayor Ed Kotz for dramatically exaggerating the number of homeless who are criminals or mentally disturbed.
And when the Reagan administration was completely ignoring the AIDS issue, Giuliani addressed the crisis with a nine-page program, which was more detailed than four candidates running in the Democratic primary.
Given the decidedly humanitarian bent in Giuliani's platform.
One might assume that he chose to announce his first run for mayor at Bishop Lachlan in order to showcase his values as a Christian who deeply cared about the poor and needy.
His record prosecuting white-collar criminals would have made it all seem sincere to many working-class voters, as he was certainly no friend of the elite.
Giuliani's progressive-sounding rhetoric contrasted with that of the incumbent Democrat Ed Kotz, the combative mayor who liked to take fights with the media.
Kotz was ideologically centrist and riddled with corruption by his third term.
Republicans hated him, and liberal Democrats had finally become frustrated.
In his run for mayor, Giuliani was aiming to break a historical precedent.
No mayor in the 20th century who had served at least one full four-year term had ever lost re-election.
And Rudy was running as a Republican in a city where Democrats outnumber Republicans 4-1.
Still, there was an opening for a political outsider like Rudy to win with a campaign to clean up City Hall.
The last time a Republican had won a mayor election was John Lindsay in 1965.
Lindsay was arguably one of the most left-wing mayors in the history of New York.
If Giuliani could take a page from Lindsay's playbook and build a coalition with left-wing voters disillusioned with the Democratic incumbent, he might have a path to victory.
Alas for Giuliani, his embrace of progressive policies on aid, homelessness, and poverty did not serve him well in his first election.
His plan to unite Republicans and left-wing Democrats would collapse after a surprise upset in the Democratic primary when Manhattan Borough President David Dinkins defeated Ed Koch from the left.
Giuliani would lose in 1989 and Dinkins would become the first black mayor in the city's history.
Four years later, Rudy would try again, but this time he would ditch his original plan of trying to win over both Republicans and left-wing Democrats.
Instead, in his rematch against Dinkins in the 1993 mayor election, Giuliani would capitalize on a wave of racial backlash, and this time, he would win.
So there's kind of a little bit of the story and kind of the mayor's first run from Rudy Giuliani's first run for mayor in 1989 and leading up to his victory in 1993.
So fast forward from 1989 to 1993, David Dinkins, his term, he's seen as kind of being in over his head.
There's a lot of racial tension during this time period.
Of course, get a number of incidences and of course the pogroms, the violence against the Jews, racial tension.
Mayor Giuliani comes back, 1993, wins a tight race with Dinkins.
And now we're going to play a little bit of his election night speech.
This is election night.
This is November 2nd, 1993.
Rudy Giuliani has just been elected mayor of New York City, defeating David Dinkins November 2nd, 1993.
Jesuits went to Manhattan College, a graduate of NYU Law School.
Four uncles were police officers.
He often said in the campaign he will administer the city with one standard.
And he certainly will now have his chance to do that if he has made this historic mark tonight in defeating Jacob.
There he is with life, Donna, Son Andrew, and perhaps daughter Caroline as he makes his way slowly through this incredible trail.
Friend, you're looking at this scene.
Did you ever think you would actually see this?
Yeah, I really did.
I really felt we had it in us to take the election.
We had a great organization.
We had a stupendous campaign on a great field operation, and they came through.
It's a very, very young campaign staff, and they did a sensational job.
We've dreamed of this for four years, and here it is now.
It's just a wonderful moment.
In the morning, Mr. Giuliani has already started the movement toward addressing the city.
He will arrange interviews.
Besides going to the minority neighborhood, he will reach out, obviously, to Mayor Diggins.
A huge cheer and wave.
rudolph giuliani and his wife's on Giuliani obviously is shaking, hugging.
who's an author who lost, remember the deal behind him who lost.
Assemblyman Dub Heiken and the glasses and beer.
Assemblyman Dub Heiken and the glasses and beer.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
You know, it's almost two o'clock in the morning.
*crowd cheers*
I'm I'm standing before you as the next mayor of New York City.
It happened.
It happened because I asked you to believe in me, and you did.
And I'm And I'm very grateful to you.
You gave me your vote, and I accept the responsibility that goes with it.
you have my pledge that I will work to fulfill your expectations and hopefully even exceed them.
From the very start, and tonight is that start, I want New York to know and understand my stated goal.
My administration will be universal in its concern, sensitive to our diversity, and even-handed in every way possible.
Nobody, nobody, no ethnic, religious, or racial group will escape my care, my concern, and my attention.
Neither will any of the fundamental problems that I have addressed during this campaign.
Those problems need to be addressed without delay.
The agenda during the next four years is full.
There's much to do, and I can only do it with your continued support and with your help.
I say this.
Thank you.
I say this to those of you here who have supported me so strongly and with so much of your energy and so much of your desire.
And thank you.
And I say it to all of those who voted for me, those who voted against me, and those who didn't vote.
As we look to the future, we must proceed with one thing in mind.
Whatever adversity we face, we will face it together.
And whatever the benefit, they will be distributed evenly and fairly.
At this point...
At this point, I want to pay special tribute to Mayor David Dinkins.
We need to acknowledge Mayor Dinkins' distinguished public career and the contributions that he has made to our city over the course of that career and to acknowledge that he came to the mayoralty during a very difficult period for our city.
He did his best and he cares deeply about the city as he displayed tonight in his very gracious speech.
Thank you.
Four years ago, I had to make a similar call to David Dickins.
I understand the pain.
I understand the disappointment.
And I also respect greatly the dignity with which he did it.
And this lady is absolutely correct.
It's time to heal.
I believe the entire city will join me in saying thank you to David Dinkins.
Thank you.
Four years ago, I asked all the people who voted for me to give their full support to David Dinkins.
Tonight, to all the people who voted for David, for David Dinkins, I ask them to give me your support.
Give me.
Give me the opportunity to show you that I can serve the entire city equally and fairly and with dedication.
And give me the opportunity to do that, not just with words, but with deeds.
if you do then i believe that we can all come together as new yorkers as we should We all know that there's a need to rebuild our structures and our institutions.
It won't be easy.
And it won't be possible if we don't rebuild with understanding and cooperation from the entire city.
Starting tomorrow, we begin the process of reaching out to every community in New York City and saying to every community, we have common bonds and common interests together as New Yorkers.
That my son Andrew's future, my daughter Caroline's future, your children's future, your grandchildren's future, no matter what race, ethnic, background, or religion, we're bound together.
We're all one people.
The election is now over, and we will move together as New Yorkers.
All of us have to be part of that process.
It'll be a period of transition for us, but a passage of necessity if we are to overcome structural budget deficits and administrative deficiencies.
The reality is that we cannot remain standing still.
We have to change and we have To move on, and we have to have the courage to examine different ways to solve our problems because the ones we're using now are hurting us, and they are hurting the poorest among us more than any other.
Thank you.
Wow, so that's just part of the mayor's 1993 victory speech when he was elected mayor of New York City at a time when crime was at an all-time high.
Crime, violent crime specifically, parts of New York, including Times Square, are places you wouldn't visit as a family.
And Mayor Giuliani went in there and he accomplished so much in his first term alone.
And that's why in 1997, he cruised to a reelection.
So we still want to play a clip here to kind of stay in chronological order.
We have the mayor during a debate during the 1997 run.
Again, setting the scene here.
He's coming in here for re-election, having reduced crime more than virtually any mayor in the city's history.
And we saw a huge urban renewal, right, in the city in places like Times Square with Broadway, the theater district, bringing Disney and these different theater companies and reviving that area, just Midtown in general, right?
Central Park, the subways through the broken windows theory, something we could really use in lots of cities across America today.
And so he really shifted the culture.
And people, you know, we'll give him credit for this throughout the city.
And when I'm with him there, even in the Upper East Side, these are clearly died-in-the-wool liberals, but they'll say they miss him.
They miss him as mayor having competent leadership.
So let's play this clip from a mayoral debate on October 9th, 1997, held by New York One.
Two former city officials, schools chancellor Ramon Cortinez and Police Commissioner Willem Grant, among them, were forced to leave or resign under the pressure, public pressure and criticism and ridicule that you sometimes stated about them publicly.
Many New Yorkers, including Ms. Messenger, obviously tonight and yesterday on New York One labeled you a bully and a basher, believe you have an abrasive confrontational style that interferes with some of the good things that you actually do.
Does one have to be a bully in order to get New York into the next millennium?
That's about the nicest thing you said about me.
Well, there were more nicest things about that.
And by the way, I think you're both cute.
Both of you are cute.
Person, there'll be no floating, okay?
Let's just keep this money up and up.
We don't want any more trouble than we already have had.
That's right.
Thank you.
The fact is that what I expect out of people that work in city government is performance.
I take this job very, very seriously.
I work at it very hard.
And I expect that people have to perform.
And if they're performing, if they are using money in a wise way, if they're using it intelligently, if they're dealing with the problems of children, for example, and not just the rhetoric of change, but the reality of change, the way Rudy Crew is, they're not going to have a stronger supporter than me as the mayor of the city of New York.
If they're not performing, just talking about it, and things are going in the wrong direction, then I've got to do something about it.
I have to step up to it, and I have to try to make changes.
You only have four years as mayor of New York City to make changes.
And if you're going to be unwilling to take on some conflict, you're never going to make change.
So that's the style that I have.
I think it works most of the time, like anything else a human being does.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
By and large, I think it's turned this city in the right direction.
Thank you very much.
And thank you for stopping on time, so I didn't have to be a pollen packet.
Being a poem package.
Harrison, I really think we should try to keep this discussion above that name falling kind of thing.
I mean, that isn't particularly productive.
No, the fact is that I'm strong about the views that I have.
I wanted to see the school system turn around faster than Mr. Cortinez was willing to do it.
Rudy Crew has now become the chancellor.
I help him bring him here, support him completely.
Reading scores are up, math scores are up.
A lot more work needs to be done.
There are a lot of difficulties that need to be faced.
But I have, and we have, a school chancellor who's a man who will take on corrupted incompetent school boards and throw him out, who will remove the superintendents.
He removed 18 of them out of 32.
That's the kind of thing.
Wow, so the mayor cruises to an easy, well, I don't want to say easy, right?
This is never easy, especially in a city like New York.
The mayor wins re-election, is serving his second term.
We reached 2001.
He's in his final year in office.
And then, of course, the fateful day of September 11th, 2001.
And folks, I don't know about you, but I was in fifth grade at the time.
We all seem to remember where we were on September 11th.
Now, try to think of where you were the day before, even the day after.
I suppose those in the New York area probably remember those days after.
But being in fifth grade for me, I remember exactly where I was.
And I remember the response of three men that day, my father, President George W. Bush, and Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
And my goodness, how blessed were we to have someone like Mayor Giuliani leading that day in a moment when most were understandably running away from those towers.
The mayor went straight for them with his team to be there for his guys, for the brave men and women who were responding to the most horrific, one of the most horrific incidents has ever To hit the United States of America.
And the leadership he showed that day, the resilience and the heroism by the first responders, of course, the firefighters and police officers and those on some of those planes who fought back.
We can't put it into words.
But Mayor Giuliani was a man that comforted not just the city and not just the region, but really the whole country and the whole world that day.
We saw that the mayor was there and was in charge and doing what he could at a time when it just seemed like there was absolutely nothing we could do.
So the leadership he showed that day is incredible, and we want to play a little bit of that.
This is September 11th, 2001.
This is the morning Church Street.
This is the morning Church Street.
We ask that the airspace around the city of New York be sealed by military aircraft within the attack military aircraft.
So that was the morning of September 11th, 2001.
And we also have clips of the mayor from that evening.
And you'll notice Police Commissioner Bernie Carrick, the late, great Bernie Carrick over his right shoulder.
For those who are regular viewers of the show, of course, you've seen Bernie on our program.
Boy, do we miss him.
And those of you who were there on September 11th, those from the New York region, of course, all of you who have served in the NYPD or have been part of law enforcement likely know, definitely know who Bernie Carrick is.
We miss him dearly.
But this is Mayor Giuliani and Commissioner Carrick that day giving updates.
And again, I should have warned folks before the last clip, but definitely this one, you may find some of these images disturbing.
Of course, it'll bring back some awful, awful memories.
So I do want to put that out that some of you may find these images disturbing.
Give comfort and support maybe other people that have been affected by this.
It would be a good day to do that.
The point that Richie Schur makes is we've had people wonderful.
I mean this in the best sense of the word.
We've had thousands and thousands of people that have come to help us.
When I was down at the site near the World Trade Center, I met a lot of the National Guard people that the governor has sent as really wonderful young men and women.
We have enough volunteers now.
We have more volunteers, frankly, than we need at this point.
And what we need to do is to focus the efforts of the professionals that are there in being able to do the recovery and try to save as many lives as we can and restore services as quickly as possible.
We may be asking for more volunteers tomorrow and the next day and the day after.
But right now we don't need any more volunteers.
Mr. Mayor, is there still hope that there are people who are still alive in 12?
Yes, still hope.
There's hope that there are people that are still alive.
How is the rescue effort hampered by this darkness?
What do you do?
We moved a lot of lights in so that the area is being lit now so that I don't think the rescue effort is going to be hampered by this darkness.
The rescue effort is hampered by the fact that there's still fire there.
There are still unsound structures.
And it's still dangerous.
Although the rescue effort is now taking place.
But they're asking me is it hampered.
It's hampered because of the conditions, not because of the nighttime.
SPEAKER 1: SPEAKER 1: It's going to be used to move debris out of the way so that the emergency vehicles can get in and out quickly, so that we can get the ambulances in a more expeditious fashion than we've been able to do.
And I want to thank the Deputy Mayor Rudy Washington, who has spent most of the day coordinating, getting all of that emergency equipment in the right place, ready to move.
If you go along Houston Street, you'll see hundreds and hundreds of pieces of equipment that are lined up to move in and to take debris out.
And now they've started doing that.
And I think that's probably what you observe.
You probably observe them.
Are you concerned about the city tonight in light of what all of the things that have happened during the daylight hours today?
Am I concerned from the point of view of the actions and activities of the people of the city?
The police department is out in large numbers.
You want to explain the forts that you have out there?
No, I'm not concerned.
We're pretty much out in four forts this evening.
Southern Manhattan, as you know, we're primarily concentrating on the rescue efforts.
The rest of the city is basically some of the entry points are shut down.
The tunnels are shut down.
As of midnight, there will be no more traffic coming into Southern Manhattan from 14th Street.
We're going to shut that down.
I think the city is pretty secure.
And we're going to continue doing what we're doing in the rescue effort into social effects.
Absolutely not.
There's been no reports of looting or any other problems out of the ordinary.
And as I said, the boroughs are working pretty normally.
And so forth, so good.
Mayor, did you see the president's comments tonight?
I spoke to him earlier today, and I only heard the very end of his comments because I was coming back from the World Trade Center.
I believe I'm...
He said, well, thank you.
I don't know the number at this point.
That may very well be the case.
At this point, we're still in the effort of time.
I don't know the numbers yet.
But I mean, this is going to be, as I said, the numbers are going to be very, very high.
If you think of the number of people that were in the building at the time, we've been spending time with the medical examiner, who, by the way, was injured himself.
And so Dr. Hirsch was injured and had to be treated.
But he's organized his office, and they are ready to deal with thousands and thousands of bodies if they have to.
Mr. Mayor, earlier in the day.
We'll give them the support and the help to do that.
He was down there, yes.
He got injured.
I mean, he's okay, but obviously he was hurt.
He was beaten up pretty badly.
His body hurts.
I mean, his body was debris.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He got hit.
He described it that way.
I said, how do you feel, Dr. Hurt?
So he got pretty beaten up.
and then what happened if he got hit with debris?
Mayor, what exactly was the damage to the flight?
What blocks were involved?
How much debris had fallen on the surrounding area?
If you go down there now, the last time I saw it was when I was leaving this morning.
It's horrendous.
I mean, it's filled with debris.
It's filled with dust.
It's going to be a heck of a cleanup there.
How far down Battery Park City?
Was that affected?
In fact, well, the power is out in the lower part of Manhattan on the west side.
So there is no power at this point.
So that's why we had to bring in the lights to light up the area so that they can do the rest of the rescue effort.
And the people that live at Battery Park City have been evacuated.
They were taken to New Jersey.
So I don't know when that'll be back.
That's going to take a while for that to be able to get back.
On the east side, the east side of downtown Manhattan has power.
And exactly where the demarcation line is, I'm not sure.
But over by one police plaza going east is power.
And I believe there's power city hall now.
What are your plans for the representatives for the next 12 hours?
Well, we just had a long meeting with all of the agencies to make sure they have the support that they need.
They'll all reassemble here at 8, 9 o'clock tomorrow morning.
And some of the critical people stay here throughout the night.
And we'll have representatives here.
And I'll be here for a while longer.
Is that asbestos examination?
The health department has done tests, and at this point, it's not concerned.
So far, all the tests that we've done do not show an undue amount of asbestos.
It doesn't show any particular chemical agents that we have to be concerned about.
The accumulation of it for people who are down there can become very, very irritating.
And there were a lot of people whose eyes have been burned.
but I don't think there's any chemical agents that we have to worry about.
Yeah, we have an idea of how many you are missing.
only earlier it's over it's a lot I don't know that It's a lot.
We're also reporting that there are some top grounds in both departments.
Yes, we lost the Deputy Chief of the Fire Department and the Chief of the Department.
Chief of the Fire Department.
Deputy Commissioner.
Feehan.
Deputy Commissioner Feaham.
Chief Cancy.
Father Judge.
And Ray Downey, who I just gave a part of the party for, Crazy Mansion, for his years of service.
There's been five fire departments who led our team in the Oklahoma City bombing rescue was also lost yet.
It's very difficult, not just for me, but the fire commissioner and some of the very close friends that are missing right now.
I haven't been able to speak to their families yet.
I'm still concerned about going to work and things like that.
The very best thing would be to stay home tomorrow.
If you have to come to work and you work north of 14th Street, then you can come to work if it's critical.
So it's important and it's critical that you come to work.
But if you can stay home tomorrow, you're going to make things easier on yourself and easier on the city if you stay home.
So the city is not officially closed.
Manhattan is not officially closed north of 14th Street.
But we're advising people if you can stay home, it would be better.
Outside of Manhattan, you can go to work and do all the things.
So we're going to cut away from that.
I really wanted to play the whole thing.
I apologize for some of the sound issues.
But of course, Mayor Giuliani, just the way he was such a calming presence that day.
And he was there on site on location, right?
At ground zero at the time, At the base of those two burning skyscrapers.
So he was there, and then he was in constant communication with, of course, his emergency management teams, the NYPD, FDNY, all of those agencies, but also with the public, right?
So many people that day, and in the days, weeks, months, and months ahead had a lot of questions.
The day of, people were missing, right?
Thousands of people unaccounted for, almost 3,000 dead.
And in the first hours of the attack, of course, you're talking hundreds of thousands of people that are checking in on loved ones.
And you can just imagine how busy lower Manhattan is on a fall Tuesday morning.
And so the mayor's actions that day just exemplify leadership.
And boy, could we use more people like him today, right?
So now we're going to jump ahead to 2008.
A lot happens in those intervening years, of course.
The mayor becomes one of the most sought after speakers with the Washington Speakers Bureau.
I believe he was number one or number two with Colin Powell.
Those of you that have watched the show have heard him bring that up.
So he's up there, one or two, when it comes to speaking engagements, of course, on leadership, his time as U.S. attorney, taking down the mafia, cleaning up New York City, which we really didn't get into, did we, too much?
We kind of took some clips from his campaigns, really all three, 89, 93, and 97.
Maybe tomorrow we'll spend some time and I'll try to get some better sound and focus it on his time as mayor, right, and everything he accomplished, bringing down violent crime, putting together a work fair, and just really leading New York City, you know, America's largest city, really the center of global trade.
And he brought it through a new urban renaissance, right?
Places like Times Square, Midtown Manhattan, Central Park, over by Grand Central Station.
A lot of these, even a lot of the boroughs, right?
Brooklyn.
You see the Renaissance with Brooklyn.
I mean, the Bronx was a mess back in the 70s.
And so the mayor accomplished so much.
So he was highly sought after for security, leadership, crisis management throughout the world.
He had one of the largest security consulting firms in the world.
So fast forward, he is considered the frontrunner for president in the Republican primary, 2007.
And so we're going to play one of his early ads.
This is one of the mayor's presidential ads when he ran for president in 2008.
There was a sign on my desk.
It read, I'm, when I was mayor, there was a sign on my desk.
It read, I'm responsible.
That's the kind of common sense accountability we need today.
That's the kind of leadership we need in Washington, and that's why I'm running for president.
Since leaving City Hall, I've traveled to many states across our nation, meeting thousands of you along the way.
You've shared with me your hopes and concerns about the future.
And it's clear to me that what unites us as Americans is far greater than what divides us.
I'm optimistic as I look to the future because I believe Americans will always rise to meet the challenges we face.
This is a time for leadership.
Terrorists are at war with us around the world.
At home, we face the generational challenges of making our country energy independent, physically disciplined, and building an education system so we can compete and win in the 21st century.
We need strong leadership that is not afraid to tackle tough problems head-on.
From Iraq to immigration to entitlement reform, people in Washington today can't seem to get anything done.
Americans don't feel that the government is working as well as it should.
If we're going to win this war and solve the serious challenges we face as a nation, the next president is going to have to break the gridlock and make decisions that move us forward, strong and united.
I believe I can be that kind of president.
I first ran for mayor of New York because I was confident that with determined leadership, New York could be a shining city on a hill again.
We cut crime and welfare in half, cut taxes 23 times, and reduced the size of the government bureaucracy, all while working with the Democratic City Council.
We improved the effectiveness of government and the quality of life.
But most importantly, we restored a sense of pride to our citizens.
When I look to the future, I see a country where citizens are confident that our nation is in control of its destiny.
I believe we can give Americans fresh evidence that government can work again.
I believe we can hand our nation to the next generation better than it was handed to us.
But I can't do it alone.
I need your help.
This is going to be a very different type of campaign.
New technology gives one person the power to make a difference on a scale we could hardly imagine 20 or 30 years ago.
That's why I hope you'll be coming back to our website.
Volunteer.
Make a financial contribution.
And most importantly, be a leader in your community by getting your friends involved in our campaign.
Over the course of this campaign, I'll use this website to talk directly to you.
Your support is important, and I appreciate it.
Together, we can renew our sense of optimism and build a better future for all Americans.
So that was the mayor.
He ran for president.
Well, I thought that was quite a nice ad, just kind of a direct-to-camera ad for his website back in 2007, 2008.
So, you know, website online campaigns were still kind of in their, kind of relatively new.
I'm sure they had them back in 2000, right?
Bill Clinton, even Al Gore, George Bush, 2004, John Kerry.
But 2008, Obama, right?
He really came out there with Obama.
Remember, Obama girl, and he was all over Facebook and YouTube.
And wouldn't it be interesting to look back at that time?
Wouldn't it be interesting to look back at some of those websites?
I'm not going to name, I'm not going to name names, but look at some of those websites to see what, if and what they did to support Barack Obama for president that year.
It'd be interesting to see if, you know, because that was at a time before, you know, 2016 and then definitely by 2024, we were a lot more aware of social media, the algorithms, how they manipulate searches.
And so it's tougher to get away with it.
Where in 2007, 2008, I really wonder, wouldn't that be interesting to see how influential some of these social media companies, online, some of these tech companies, what was their involvement in that 2008 2008 election?
So let's fast forward.
Again, a lot happens right between 2008 and 2016.
The mayor's heavily involved in the Tea Party movement in 2010, right?
He campaigns for a number of folks, including Marco Rubio.
So we were able to capture this gem.
The mayor in 2010 was very helpful to the now Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, in his run for Senate.
Well, Senator, my understanding is that the mayor was early in endorsing you back in 2010.
Let me tell you something.
Quick story.
The mayor didn't just endorse me.
He called me a week after the election.
I wanted to go after Charlie Christ again.
Keep hitting him.
God bless you.
Wow, I love that story.
I love that from the now Secretary of State.
So 2016, well, 2015, right?
Our man, President Trump, comes down the escalator.
The mayor has been longtime friends with then candidate Donald Trump.
And so he gets behind him and is an instrumental part in that campaign.
Very few people, I would say, had more of an influence and was more helpful to the boss in that first race for president than Rudy Giuliani.
I didn't know the mayor at the time personally, but I remember him, right?
And a lot of us remember him warming up so many of those speeches in 2015, 2016 on the campaign trail.
And I'm sure he was also able to provide the president with sound political advice, right, in a complex media environment.
I mean, my goodness, if you remember back 2016, the media and how relentless they were with president, then candidate Trump.
My goodness, they went from one thing to another, to another, right?
And Mayor Giuliani, one of the few with the courage to stand up for his friend and candidate Trump in October of 2016 with the Access Hollywood video, right?
And the fake faux outrage by the left and the Democrats and the media.
And Mayor Giuliani was, look, he's confident, right?
He knows he's right.
He's confident in his convictions.
And he went on TV, did the full Ginsburg.
That's when you do all the morning shows, all the Sunday morning shows all in one day and defended the president.
And look, I just can't imagine anyone being, you know, there's a number of folks, right, that were helpful to the president.
I'm sure the president, if you sat down with him and got him speaking, would throw some names out.
But Mayor Rudy Giuliani is definitely on that list on folks that helped the boss there early on, especially at a time when then candidate Trump, right, having someone with the prestige, the background that Mayor Giuliani had, right?
First, just being the Republican two-term mayor of New York City alone lended a lot more credibility to President Trump's campaign than candidate Trump's campaign.
Although many of us, right, will say, and it proved to be true, he didn't need the politicians.
But of course, then we don't put Mayor Giuliani in the camp as being just a politician, right?
He's a crime fighter.
He's a leader.
He's a patriot.
So we found, let's play a clip.
This is from a campaign speech in Ohio.
This is October 13th, 2016.
cincinnati ohio mayor giuliani uh leading things off for then candidate donald trump well
I don't think I have to do very much to convince you to vote for Donald Trump for president, right?
It's going to be a pretty easy job.
So I'd like to make a few points that maybe aren't being given the emphasis that they should be given.
Because if you think that with fair coverage for this election, you're living on Mars.
So what we see day after day now, starting with the first group of emails from all of the Clinton people, is everything we always knew about Hillary Clinton is true.
They used to think...
They used to think there was a vast right-wing conspiracy against them.
That all of us were kind of making it up.
But you know what these emails say?
we were always right in the first place Boy, are they slimy.
Wow.
Ooh.
How about...
How about...
A person in public office has to have a private position and a public position.
That Means really simply, I say one thing to you and then I go backstage and I say something different.
Like, um.
Like, you've given me a lot of money, like $250,000, and I say something like, we should have open borders, open trade, and ultimately, we should be a country kind of like an international united nation.
I say that the people pay me Georgia the 50,000, and then I'm in the bay with the people of people with voters, I want to do borders.
They change the secretary.
You know what you call that?
I come from Brooklyn.
I'm going to show you what you call that.
You call that you are a liar.
I'll give you another one.
When you get a subpoena from the United States Congress for your email, when you get a subpoena, so that's the mayor, one of many speeches he gave during the 2016 campaign on behalf of his friend, then candidate Donald Trump.
So that was a successful campaign, of course.
The mayor went on to be the president's personal attorney, spent a lot of time with the boss.
And then the 2020 campaign rolled around.
Of course, this is all happening with COVID in the mix.
So it's something that we often sometimes don't always, that it's important that that factor is very important as we talk about the 2020 election, right?
So I always like to bring that up.
And I will continue to, I like to, I like to make that point every time I'm talking about 2020, just to remind folks of what unprecedented times we were living in.
And it's important, right, with how they were able to do what they did with that election.
And so following the election, I'm on the campaign, right?
I'm on the 2020 campaign in the headquarters.
And we're getting calls.
I know, you know, we're hearing of all this funny business from thousands and thousands of regular Americans across the country, right?
With no direct connection to any of us, to the president, just calling in, raising concerns, thousands of calls, right?
We're getting thousands of calls.
Mayor Giuliani comes in.
That's when I meet him.
And I immediately knew this is the guy that I want to follow here because he's willing to take this thing all the way and voice, you know, be a voice for the concerns of millions of everyday Americans who have legitimate and serious concerns about what happened here with this election.
And so the mayor had a plan.
I spent a few months with him and a small team right in Washington.
And then COVID, and I want the mayor here to give the specifics, but COVID broke out among the team, or at least positive results on these COVID tests.
All right.
That's what we'll say.
A number of folks had a positive test on these.
Remember those COVID tests?
And so the whole operation was moved to another location.
And so I had broken off.
I had stayed in touch.
I helped out with the second impeachment defense, but I had been back in Michigan at this point.
But this isn't about me.
So getting back to it, the mayor, right, had the guts and the courage to stand up and speak out and be a voice.
And by the way, he was attempting to do it the legal way.
That's why it's so ridiculous that the Bar Association in New York and Washington have taken his bar license away.
This is a man who was being a voice for the concerns of thousands and thousands of Americans with the election.
And this is a man who was attempting to raise these concerns in a legal manner.
So I think that's important to point out.
So here's a little bit from the mayor in 2020.
Specifically, this is his press conference in Philadelphia.
College, common practice, and the examination of absentee ballots, which happens all the time.
You take out the absentee ballot, you open it up, the Republican looks at it, the Democrat looks at it, and if nobody objects, you put it in the file.
If you either object, you put it aside.
That's what's done for absentee ballots, which have the extra security of having stickages in the match.
But here, with a much more insecure method of voting, no Republican got a chance to look at that ballot.
Some of the ballots, you see, look, suspicion.
From very far away, they look like the same pen, possibly, possibly the same hammer.
We can't say that because we never got to see it.
Now you're also going to find way abroad on the other side of the state.
There is a similar situation in Pittsburgh involving 300,000 ballots that were unexpected, unreviewed, not observed by a single Republican.
Not a single one.
It's got to be a pattern.
A friend of mine says, I don't believe in conspiracies, but I also don't believe in coincidences.
Kind of funny that all Republicans were rejected here, and all Republicans were rejected in Pittsburgh, and it amounts to about, gee, just about the 700,000 votes that President Trump was ahead by two days ago and disappeared.
And we have no way of knowing because we've been deprived of the right to expect if a single one of those ballots is legitimate.
That is unheard of.
It's illegal.
It's unconstitutional.
And we will be bringing an action challenging that.
And I emphasize to you, it's only one of the many other So that's the mayor,
of course, raising concerns about that election when so many others didn't have the guts to do so.
So we're going to play another clip here.
So what we want to do tonight was hear from the mayor in his own words throughout his life and just remind everyone of what this man has accomplished, right?
And of course, he's got so much more in him.
And to this day, those of you that have been with us tonight is episode 722.
That's the 722nd straight weeknight that we have aired this show.
And, you know, we're not slowing down.
If anything, we're going to pick up and continue to do more and more.
So the mayor is continuing with what he's doing, whether it's the live stream, the show, speeches.
He still gives speeches and he's very active on social media.
And so he's still continuing the fight, right, as just a great American patriot.
And we want to thank all of you for being a part of it, supporting us in the show.
And so I want to kind of close out with some more clips.
I want to say goodbye and thank you for joining me tonight.
We apologize for some of the audio, but we'll work on that for tomorrow night.
So it might even be, if you want to re-watch it with headphones on, I think that'll help in terms of hearing some of the clips.
But we want to thank you.
And as the mayor always says, right, we want to wish God's blessings to really everyone throughout the world, especially those that are facing hardship tonight.
And we hope to see you again tomorrow night.
We'll be live.
We'll have something else for you again.
And we will dive into maybe some more specifics of the mayor's career.
And I'm going to figure out how to fix this camera so that it's, all of a sudden it went into like four by three.
I want 16 by nine.
So we'll get that fixed for you too.
So thanks for being with us tonight.
Really appreciate having you join us.
The mayor is on assignment and we'll be back very soon.
In the meantime, we'll play some more highlights from the mayor's life.
Thank you very much, and God bless America.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Who can save where the road holds, where the day lost only time And who can say if your love goes as your heart shall only tire It's
our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country, a country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason, we're able to talk, we're able to analyze.
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