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June 24, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
01:40:38
America’s Mayor Live (697): Israel, Iran & the US All Claim Victory After 12-Day War—Who Really Won?
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor live.
Live from a very, very, very warm New Hampshire.
Now, I don't know how often you get to say very, very, very warm New Hampshire.
Not often.
I would say I was just in Dubai, which has extraordinary heat.
And Teddy asked me before if this was as bad as Dubai, and it's not.
But I think when we were in Dubai, we were up over 110.
So here it's 100.
101, 102.
In New York, it's about 102.
And this heat cloud that's over us is going to be here for a couple of days.
And if I looked on the map correctly, it seems to me it goes up to the Canadian border, goes all the way over to Illinois along that border, and then comes down as far as Indiana and maybe West Virginia, and then comes over to DC and then up.
Big expanse.
Big, big expanse.
Mostly just very heavy cloud cover.
And I don't think it contains much rain.
Otherwise, the temperatures get moderated.
I'd like to know what the humidity is, too, Ted.
As mayor, did you ever have to deal with a major heat wave?
Yes, yes.
I dealt with a major heat wave once.
I've forgotten what year it was.
Simon Mondell was my press secretary and Jerry Hauer was the head of emergency services.
So it was after Christine left and before Richie Shearer took over for Jerry Hauer.
That's how I can remember it.
And we were having this terrible heat wave.
May have been the same year as the Flight 800 crash around that time.
Because it was a terrible heat wave at that time.
And I was trying to lighten things up.
So Sonny had been the press secretary for Jerry Hauer originally, who was the head of emergency services.
And Jerry was an extraordinarily serious guy.
Whatever, he said, you just ask us, we can do anything.
We can do anything.
Boys, girls, we can do anything, right?
So Sonny and I used to tease about him because she liked him because you worked for him and I liked him.
I said, Sonny, and I try to have a straight face.
I said, Sonny, I was reading an article the other night about a geodesic dome.
And we got a lot of extra money this year because we have a surplus.
We could be the first in the country to put up a geodesic dome over New York.
And we could be air conditioned outdoors.
She said, Mayor, that sounds impossible.
I said, never say impossible.
Didn't I teach all one of you that whenever you say impossible, that's when we can do it?
Impossible to reduce crime.
Impossible to do work fair.
Impossible to reduce welfare.
Impossible to clean the city.
Impossible to get more people to come and live here.
All those impossibles we overcame.
I said, you call Jerry Hauer and you ask him.
She said, no, come on.
Now I'm looking at your face and I can tell.
I said, but can you pull it off?
Now, she was an actress.
And she said, yeah, if I don't have to see him, I can do it.
I can do it on the phone.
And he trusts me, you know.
I said, I know he does.
He recommended you.
So she called him and she says, she's like commiserating with him.
So the mayor is in a really foul mood.
He can't stay.
He thinks he's going to, people are going to die here.
And he's always felt that, you know, our administration thinks through, you know, beyond the obvious and we don't take anything without thinking of a solution to it.
And he read an article about getting a geodesic dome to put over the city.
And he said, no, that's impossible.
He said, no, no, the article even took that up.
He said, everybody thinks it's impossible, but it can be done.
But it might be that we have to pick certain sections of the city because the city is so big.
So we'll do it where there are a lot of elderly people.
Or maybe we'll move people into that area of the city who need it.
But where there's a will, there's a way.
So she was just about to laugh and he hung up.
He said, I'll get up.
About an hour later, he realized we were kidding him.
But he spent an hour.
God forbid there had been an emergency there and the jerky mayor had put him off on his stupid thing because I was playing a practical joke.
Man, I bet your office was, you know, getting things done, but there was some good camaraderie.
I got a joke.
It had great camaraderie.
We loved each other.
There's a certain morale that you get in a reform administration, Republican or Democrat.
I partnered from afar with Kennedy.
I observed it right in the middle with Reagan.
Right.
And it had Well, Trump is different.
Trump supplies most of it.
And particularly the first administration, he didn't have great people in the first administration.
Ah, I see what you're saying.
It's extraordinary that he accomplished what he accomplished.
I used to say that to him.
You got a bunch of traitors here.
And number two, all they do is attack you every day.
You got to respond to it.
If you ever get back to normal, you get back to normal.
You'll be a big failure.
You know what he said to me?
Sometimes I think that's true.
I think it makes me concentrate better.
Interesting.
But you had people you trusted.
I mean, you probably, I had people that I had worked with before a lot more than he did.
I think this administration is closer to that.
Yes.
Because he learned he knew the ones that were good.
He could move the ones that weren't.
He had four years left.
You know, when you've worked with him before, you know what you can get out of them.
Yes.
Like Jerry Howard, I could have gotten a geodesic job.
Wow, that's a good point, Mayor.
And you know, and this is the president, he's someone you've known now since the president has demonstrated this week what it means to have a president that can manage.
A lot of times they say, oh, it isn't important for a president or a mayor or a governor to manage as long as he can set the tone and the morale.
That's not true.
It's still a business.
I mean, it's still an operation of people.
You want to call it a business you don't have.
And the buck stops what you do.
It's a complex group of interreactions between people that have to be managed in the right way.
If they're managed in the right way, you save lives and you save money and you create a much better atmosphere.
If you don't manage them at all, they get to be chaotic.
Would you say you were managing your staff?
Or is that where you have to have a trusted number two or a chief of staff?
Because your chief of staff is critical.
It takes a lot of pressure off you.
I mean, you can do it without a chief of staff, but you're going to work twice as much.
And you won't be as effective because the chief of staff, first of all, you have two people doing the job instead of one.
And second, the chief of staff can do things for you that sometimes maybe you shouldn't do because you'll create terrible animosities.
That's a very wise.
It's really better not to have to lecture somebody when you're the mayor or the, because you don't want to break the relationship, not so much of trust, but of respect and affection.
Yeah.
So it's much better to do it.
And I'm and I'm pretty, and I, you know, all my other jobs, I was pretty tough.
As U.S. attorney, I was very tough on performance.
So I had to learn to sort of stay out of it a little and let Peter Randy Mastro or there's something to be said about that when you're, you took it seriously when you're the DA at Southern District of New York.
You know, you might like a guy, but if he's not doing the job, sorry.
And I think in watching you, and I know you hate when we do this, Mayor, but watching you get to know you here, you understand people.
You understand people.
I mean, it's because you operate through.
You operate through people.
So a president has to know how to manage people.
The thing wrong with Democrat presidents, it's really true.
Now, maybe presidents, we occasionally get a talented one, but I mean, I can't find a Democrat mayor that's worth anything.
But they don't know how to manage.
They literally live in, and I think it goes along with their political philosophy.
It's an entirely unrealistic, impractical political philosophy.
Look at some of the, look at this guy's Mondami who's running.
He wants to have, I think, free lunches for everybody can get a free lunch.
Who's going to pay for that?
Sounds good.
He'll get some votes, right?
We don't have a high enough tax rate in the city.
We're losing people left overright.
And here's his plan.
You want to hear it?
Pardon me?
Here's his genius plan.
You want to play Mondami?
Here's his plan involving, I believe, grocery stores.
A network of city-owned grocery stores.
It's like a public prices are out of control.
Grocery prices are out of control.
The cost of eggs and milk has skyrocketed.
Some stores are even using dynamic pricing, jacking up the cost over the course of a day depending on what they can get away with.
It doesn't need to be this way.
I'm Zibran Mandani, and as mayor, I will create a network of city-owned grocery stores.
It's like a public option for produce.
We will redirect city funds from corporate supermarkets to city-owned grocery stores, whose mission is lower prices, not higher.
These stores will operate without a prospect notice or having to pay property taxes or rent and will pass on those savings to you.
Grocery prices are...
First of all, how is he going to give them money?
He's going to take money from the private stores and give them to the city stores?
That literally is straight up.
Is he some kind of a nib?
I mean, that's straight up.
We don't give the city stores money.
I don't, unless we do that now.
I never remember.
Go ask John Castamatidis if I ever gave him any money for his.
The city does not, as far as I know, unless the crazy, insane, corrupt Democrats did this.
But I don't know of any city that gives money to private grocery stores, like hands of money, so we can take it back now and give it to the city ones.
What the hell is he talking about?
Taxing them more?
We tax them plenty right now.
And you're going to tax food?
I mean, a lot of people can't get to the city stores.
They're going to have to rely on.
And this doesn't have the whole thing because it's a deceptive ad.
But I heard him being interviewed about it and he said, you're not going to have to pay anything for it.
You can go in the city store and get the food for free.
Who's paying for that?
The suckers who are working.
The ones who are not working don't give a damn.
They're going to get some more things for free.
But the suckers who are working, they're going to have to pay for it and less for their family.
It's what creates the bitterness that rips societies apart.
It's at the core of why socialist and communist societies always end in violence.
Because it's inconsistent with human nature.
Human nature inherently reacts against unfairness.
And it's unfair to say to each according to their status and from each according to their contribution.
So basically everybody gets the same.
But some people are going to work and some aren't.
Well, if you're the lucky one that works, there comes a time if you're normal that you become very bitter because you're probably not making a lot and you're going to have to give a lot of it for the guys who stay home and, you know, they act like Biden.
They go to work four days a year and then they stay on the beach and nobody recognizes them.
Ted and I would always comment on that.
I think you were the first one to notice it, Ted.
And you noticed it because I'm going to say something that's a little, please, I hate saying this, but I'm going to say it.
I get very big crowds very often.
You do?
So if I, if I'll say it, I mean, I've walked on a beach and not been able to get.
I'll say everywhere we go, in places where I'm like, ah, you know what, maybe here we'll be all right.
If I was sitting on that beach the way he was, I swear to God, this would happen.
It happens during dinner.
Maybe.
Can I have another question?
I hate to bother.
Oh, I love that.
I hate to bother you.
You're going to grab your arm.
I really feel like saying, but I try.
If you hate it so much, there's a way to not hate it.
Don't do it.
I will say you're almost, you're always.
You and Maria and several others now do ask people to please come back after I finished eating so they don't pull the food out of my mouth.
We'd like to have a sample from you.
I will say, Mary, you're very gracious.
You are always.
You know, I mean, one of the things that made the job enjoyable and not a terrible burden is that I love people so much.
And I love the idea of doing something productive for them.
Makes you feel good about yourself.
You need things to feel good about yourself.
We all do.
Right.
And this goes back to the hippie generation and that just expanded.
The theory that, which they have developed because we've become a godless society, that the purpose in life is to succeed to the highest extent possible, might be put like this, to be everything you can be, to achieve all your goals and desires and wishes.
Now, I'm sorry, that does not create a happy person because you never ever achieve all your goals.
Because when you achieve one, then you want to achieve another and another and another, and then death comes.
So you never achieve all your goals.
And no matter who you are, you're going to fail at certain ones.
Here's what makes a happy person.
A person who knows how to fit in and make a contribution to everybody, to everybody else.
And the bigger the contribution and the more effective it is, the more honest it is, the happier you're going to be.
That's also a person that has earned for themselves that they don't need a social safety net.
They have a safety net of people who love them.
You know where I learned that?
I learned that by watching It's a Wonderful Life.
When he gets into trouble, bankruptcy, and his bank is going to go under.
They're going to put him in jail and his uncle lost a check with the money, the cash, and he attempts suicide and the angel saves him.
And then he finally comes home and the whole town has shown up and they got the money to bail out the bank because he spent his life bailing them out.
That Frank Capra's got a much better idea of what constitutes a good life.
You know, and I don't know if we can do better than Frank Capra.
So Jesus, how do we get to heaven?
The Pharisees and the scribes asked sarcastically.
Come on, tell us, how do we get to heaven?
He said, well, I didn't come here to contradict the laws and the prophecies.
I came here to fulfill them.
Could also be translated as to improve on them.
So I'm going to boil it down to two things you have to do if you want to go to paradise and go to the kingdom of heaven.
One, love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, mind, and soul.
And the second is similar to it.
Love thy neighbor as thyself.
Or how do I get to heaven?
And people would point to the little boy that's crippled.
What have you done to him?
What does that matter?
Because that's the way you can be judged.
He that is kind to the least of my brethren will be saved.
What that means is you avoid enormous amounts in psychiatric bills if you find your place in life where you feel comfortable contributing something that is meaningful to people.
And that can be very different for very different people.
There's no one, you don't have to be like a martyr or a great scientist or a great doctor.
Hey, if you sell food and you do it effectively and you get that food there on time, that's pretty damn important.
People got to eat.
One could go to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., too, when he was at his last engagement was for the sanitation department in Atlanta, Georgia, that was on strike.
And he talked about the dignity of work and the dignity of being a sanitation man and why sanitation men and women do a very important function.
It has a lot to do with our hygiene and our health.
And man, I'll tell you, in New York, when they pick up the snow, they're the biggest heroes in the city.
So Just a little philosophy tonight because we've had a tough week, haven't we?
And it's not even beginning.
And I'm a little nervous.
I have to share with you, Ted.
I'm a little nervous that we're doing this ceasefire so quickly.
I would like to have seen more, I'd like to have seen more deterioration of the Ayatollah's regime.
And I think, you know, we've done a lot, but Israel, I mean, Israel hit them like hell today.
And a couple more like that, and maybe they come down.
I mean, the best assurance that we're not going to have a nuclear Iran is to get new leadership.
Because these guys will cheat, lie, and steal their way around anything.
I mean, you could put the entire army there and watch them, and they'll find a way to cheat.
When you've got evil people, they do evil things.
And these are evil people.
And I don't understand the reluctance in regime change.
I know that evokes a lot of things that we did that maybe we shouldn't have done.
That doesn't mean that you don't do it when it needs to be done.
Right.
The fact that we did regime change terribly in certain places, does it mean that it would have been unwise if we did regime change with Hitler?
Of course not.
Or would Iraq have been done better if we had prepared the nation building much better?
Don't tell me we can't build nations because you don't know the history of the 20th century then.
You don't think it was hard to rebuild Japan after the two atomic bombs?
I know they're a more advanced society, but Iraq is not the wilderness.
It's not quite Iran, but it's still a well-educated country with a lot of productive people.
Iraq could have been handled much better if we had taken the model of Italy and Germany and Japan, one better than the other, and followed it.
Which I'll give you some basics, which included holding on to most of the civil servants and make the determination which ones really supported Hitler and which ones were just automatons doing their job, not even paying attention much.
I mean, half our society probably can't tell you the basics of politics.
You just don't follow it.
And when it gets bitter and whatever, even fewer follow it.
And when the press lies like this, they get turned off even more.
So the reality is that they can be very much affected by things.
So I mentioned before that the son of President Uribe of Colombia, Senator Michael Uribe, was shot at a campaign event.
maybe a shot in Bogota on June 7th.
He's gone through four surgeries.
He's a very, very fine young man, very much in the image of his father.
His father was one of the greatest presidents of Colombia.
He's the guy that is responsible for getting the FARC out of Colombia, and they've since returned a bit.
So I kind of share with him.
And I got to know and work for first President Uribe and then his successor quite a bit.
And he's one of the great heroes of South America, the dad and the son.
Let's hope these are not serious injuries.
And we're going to try to find out was this a politically inspired anything.
He's right-wing.
Uribe is a conservative, very anti-crime, which would make you unpopular in certain portions of Colombia.
Reminds me of the Bolsonaro family also.
He has two sons that are in the Senate.
Have you met him?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I met him.
That's someone I want to meet, Mayor.
I cried with him.
Oh, I met him two weeks after he was shot and lived.
Oh, my goodness.
My goodness.
I forgot.
He was also shot.
Yeah.
They don't fool around.
So I have the New York numbers here.
Today, it was supposed to be, I don't know if it hit it.
It was 102 degrees in New York.
Tomorrow is going to be 97 in New York, we're talking about.
And Thursday is going to be 81 and cloudy.
So it is going to go down to a normal number.
It's only two more days.
It's at 80 holes.
Two more days of excessively high temperatures.
Yeah, it's a lot.
102, 97, and 81. And you should take it seriously.
It's dangerous.
Exertion at a time like this, you can be in the best of health and you don't know what's going on completely.
So there's no reason to do something you don't have to do right now.
Just wait until wait until Thursday when it goes down to 81. You're showing pictures of New York.
Yeah, just on the heat wave.
I found us, this person is walking around during the heat wave.
Looks like he made his way inside to get a Starbucks.
Where did this come from?
This is just on YouTube, actually.
So we have somebody who's people do this.
I've done this before where they live stream.
It's pretty interesting.
Right.
And it'll go right through.
This is Manhattan.
You'd probably recognize it.
There's still pictures, right?
No, this is a video.
This is a kind of like.
Why is it a video like that?
It's not moving at a regular speed.
Right.
This one is now.
Well, yeah, it's kind of going on and off here.
We'll take that up.
So is it correct that both Israel and Iran declared victory?
Yes.
That's right, Mayor.
Both sides declaring victory soon after.
We'll play.
This is Prime Minister Netanyahu declaring victory.
This was, I believe, late last night.
Well, we have subcaptions there for our non-Hebrew-speaking audience.
So if you read that, he's saying that this is a clear victory, says the program has been set back by quite some time.
Well, there's no doubt about it.
I mean, they set back the program in a number of respects.
And of course, the Trump attack was the coup de grace, but they did many, many days of very effective attacks in comparison to really very unexpectedly benign.
Right.
Now, I know people got killed and they destroyed buildings, but for the number of rockets they used and the time they did it.
Right.
This is a celebratory event.
No permanent damage.
That's right near where my office used to be.
That's in front of Trump Tower, I think.
No, no.
Well, we're used to seeing those sorts of marches right there in New York City, but this is actually in Tehran.
That's Tehran.
That's Tehran.
But you're right.
We've seen images like that on Fifth Avenue.
Right there.
Well, we have seen stuff like that in New York with all these foreign flags.
It looks a little like going to going downtown on Fifth Avenue.
Right.
So what we're seeing here, this is the, And as our friends have explained to us, it's not hard for the regime to get a few thousand people out in the street when necessary.
So this is Iran state television, IRNA news, showing a crowd in Tehrance declaring victory as well.
Wow.
And they're using the same language they are referring to as a 12-day war and declaring a great victory over Israel and the United States.
And they've really been playing up on state TV the capabilities of their military, right?
One thing they're really promoting here is that they were able to keep up toe-to-toe with Israel, which we know just simply is not the case.
So that ceasefire totally, totally benefits this regime.
I feel like they're the only ones that win with this thing.
If you look at their total inability to do anything to stop our attack, it tells you that they're not a militarily advanced society.
And they're afraid.
And they're afraid of President Trump.
That's why they told Cutter what they're about to do.
You can say our planes were stealth bombers and difficult to they weren't doing much against the against the Israelis.
I mean, think about what they were declaring victory on because one of their 200 missiles landed, right?
They were cheering because they had to launch 150 missiles just to get two or three to land.
And then they declared victory.
They got the benefit of stopping this.
They were going down to no missiles.
Right.
That's why we knew that.
I knew that two weeks when the president said two weeks, we didn't say it, but we knew.
We used to give him a break.
They didn't have two weeks worth of missiles.
I had to let it go for another two, three weeks.
Let's see if we can get him out of missiles.
Yeah, I mean, you would think.
And the reason, not to be mean and not to be, because we got to get rid of him.
We got to get rid of.
We have got.
Bombing missiles, having an agreement not to do missiles and inspection is not anywhere nearly as effective as getting rid of the madman who is the inspiration for it.
Well, so he can lie his backside off.
That's right, Mayor.
And I still need to confirm this.
But we're hearing that Iranian state television, the government over there is telling the people that the nuclear program is going to continue unabated.
nuclear program.
Their nuclear program.
I'll try to get the right wording, right?
I don't think they were saying the bomb necessarily, but they seem to be not only declaring victory, but kind of thumbing their nose at the spirit of wanting to negotiate.
Well, wait a second.
The only way they can have a ceasefire is if they've agreed to give up all nuclear material.
Have they agreed to that?
That is what we're...
Right.
So we are.
Well, this is the Iranian atomic chief saying this, that this is from the times of Israel.
Mohammed Eslami says Iran prepped in advance for damage to the nuclear sites.
Oh, that's crazy.
And also said that arrangements have been made for its restoration.
Quote, the plan is to prevent interruption in the process of production and services.
So Tehran is going to restore its nuclear program, Iranians.
Atomic Chief vows.
They're going to restore the nuclear program?
That's what they're saying.
So they're not saying that.
How can they have a ceasefire?
The president said, under no circumstances are we going to agree to them having nuclear weapons.
nuclear weapon so i think what they're referring to is there have nuclear he So this certainly flies in the face of even the spirit of negotiations.
He was making it very, very clear they can't have nuclear capacity of any kind.
It's too dangerous.
I don't, I don't.
So their attack created the, the, the, the, I mean, that's completely pathetic.
It means they don't have an effective military of any kind.
So I don't know why they want to be in wars.
So Hakeem Jeffries says that the Democrats weren't giving a heads up about the bombing.
Once again, they have records showing they called him.
They called Schumer.
I wouldn't, and they couldn't reach him.
He probably, you know, who the hell knows where he was?
I don't want to say it.
Well, look, I'm not saying this is what happened, but if I was told, you got to call the Democrats and the Republicans, Ted.
This is happening imminently.
Maybe I'd find the number that I knew they weren't going to answer, right?
Since I kind of say, look, I did it, but they weren't there.
Let it ring a couple times, right?
And then hang up.
Look, Mayor, there's some real concern of what they would do with that information if they were giving it to her early.
Yeah, I know, I know.
They're all against us.
And the lives of those pilots at stake.
And it's unfortunate because I can't see someone on our, I don't want to say that.
I can't see somebody aligned with President Trump doing such a thing, right?
Where their side, there's a real risk that they would do something to embarrass Trump or to meddle with the plan.
I wonder.
Ali Reyes is still here.
Yeah.
Anybody you know got out of the prison yesterday when they hit was it Evan?
Even Evan prison?
They opened the front door.
You must have some people in there.
I can't imagine there aren't any MEK people in that prison, right?
Is that a very bad prison?
It's the worst.
It's the worst reason where we have a prison prison.
Hmm?
And it dates back to the time of the show up.
I remember that name from the books that I've read about the Shah.
Okay.
Wow, so we're a lot going on tonight with the Israel-Iranian, I guess we're calling it a ceasefire and appears to be holding up President Trump with some strong language today, urging both sides to adhere to the agreement.
Maybe we'll hear, this is some words.
This might give us an idea of President Trump's, maybe his frustration.
I'd like to get your reaction, Mayor.
Of what?
To the president this morning and some strong language he used regarding the ceasefire.
Let's hear it.
So the French word.
Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement.
Do you believe that Iran is still committed to Steve?
Yeah, I do.
They violated it, but Israel violated it too.
Are you questioning if Israel is committed to?
Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before.
The biggest load that we've seen.
I'm not happy with Israel.
You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them.
So I'm not happy with them.
I'm not happy with Iran either.
But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because of one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land.
I'm not happy about that.
You know what?
We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Do you understand that?
I think that was, I mean, I humbly submit, I think, with an overreaction.
If you told me I had six or 12 hours, and it's confusing as to whether you have six or 12 hours to complete my strikes, I'd hit him with everything I had left.
We even expected it.
Last night, we said that.
And that traditionally is what happens.
Right.
And you'd expect, even if you don't want that to happen, practically speaking, you're telling a country you got six hours.
This isn't a game.
This is the last chance I have to take that son of a bitch out.
Right.
So he at least has to understand that that's a likely scenario.
So maybe he does get that, Mayor, and he wants to just express his frustration with both sides.
It sounds to me like he's holding Israel.
He's expecting Israel to reach for a higher standard.
And frankly, in a war, you can't do that.
Right.
You can't, you have to, there's got to be one standard.
You've got to be humane.
But beyond that, if you try to operate a higher standard, you're going to get a lot of people killed.
And his guys must be telling him, okay, we're going to set this ceasefire for six hours.
Mr. President, you know, as Israel has done in the past, they're going to front load as much as they can.
He's got some people around that are very tough on Israel, more than they should, when you consider how much the regime hates us.
Right.
And they're fighting against the regime we should be fighting against.
Right.
And I think that I think, was it DeSantis who said that he's doing our dirty work for us?
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
He is.
Right.
We should appreciate that.
Who knows how many Americans could have been killed if we had to go take out all those sites?
Right.
And so I don't know.
Maybe he was just in a bad mood.
Right.
Well, maybe we'll take a quick break and come back.
We have a lot happening tonight.
Of course, we're watching this New York City Mayor's Race polls close In just 20 minutes.
And we'll talk about the race.
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Welcome back to America's Mayor Live.
This is Rudy Giuliani.
And we were going to talk now about the mayor's race in New York, which I've been trying to avoid.
And the reason I want to avoid it is if the recent polls are correct, and there's every reason to believe they're pretty close to correct.
And there's a chance, it's not a foregone conclusion.
There's a chance that that idiot you saw, Mandani, Zoran Mandani, Mandani, who believes that the city should have its own grocery stores so people can get food for nothing, that thinks that there should be intifadas all over the country and is defending it saying intifada can mean many things.
So can murder mean many things.
None of them are good.
We know when he's using the word intifada, and this guy is obsessed with hating Israel and loves Hamas, what does he think we're stupid?
Like him?
We're not stupid.
We're very smart people, New Yorkers.
If you vote for him, I'm going to be very disappointed in you.
I know I'm not supposed to, but I will be.
I love you.
I love New Yorkers.
I think New York the greatest city in the world with unbelievable people that it developed because of the stress and the difficulties of living there.
You can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
That's not just an idol lot.
But I mean, you've made some pretty ridiculous choices recently.
De Blasio?
Biden?
And Word Salad?
And all the thieves.
To be fair, she was kind of forced down their throats.
And all the thieves that you elect.
Will you please start to get practical?
I know left-wing Democrats do not have practicality.
Maybe you can say a prayer and ask God to give it to you.
To save your city, you elect this guy.
We're going to be a laughing stock around the country.
Socialist for mayor of New York City?
Gosh, I mean, the city thrives and survives.
And just listen to me.
By having all the wealthy people here that contribute all my affordable banana.
New Yorkers are making the money from the problem I think even it's rough for you I'm fighting for changing everything Rent free, free bus You meant to play that on there You meant to play that on there That's just beautiful Let's play it on Now that I played the video, we might as well play the clip.
This is him.
What's he doing?
They're hearing about free stuff in a foreign language.
They're hearing about free stuff in a foreign language.
Rent free, free buses, universal childcare and gross groceries.
But you want to ask a question.
You've never voted for anyone.
The thing is not that I will be the one.
The thing is that I will do what I will do.
For our communities and for every New Yorker.
I'm going to go to the next one.
You gotta be kidding me.
He's talking in Palestinian or Arabic or yeah, well, it's definitely it's definitely a he's running in America.
I know he hates America, but he's running in America.
Where do they find that jackass?
Who the hell voted for him?
I mean, what is wrong with you?
Have you gotten stupid?
And by the way, what he's saying is we're going to give you free stuff.
Yeah, sure.
We're going to give you free stuff.
And all of you who work are going to get crept on even more.
But isn't it easier to go to someone and say, hey, especially right now with the way the media promotes these sorts of people, hey, I'm going to give you free busing, free food, free child care, free this, free that.
Isn't that easier than going to them and saying, hey, we're going to work on some of these challenges.
It's going to be tough.
We're going to try.
We're going to make your life incrementally better, but it's going to take some time.
Whether you're a useless panderer, or you're a person who believes in helping to develop the human personality and making this a greater place.
Sure, if we have a society in which nobody works and we have stores to provide everything to people, America will become a second, third rate country.
We made us a great country.
We're the most industrious country in the world.
We produced half of what the world, more than half of what the world needs and does.
We used to.
We end up with complete anti-American Marxist bums like that.
We become a Marxist country.
They're all failures.
You want to be Venezuela?
Want to be Moscow?
He obviously didn't read about the grocery stores in the Soviet Union by the late 1980s.
Even they required you to pay something.
To be fair, he's 30. The other thing, when we heard the comments, what he said doesn't make sense.
He's going to take the money from the private stores.
So you don't have to pay at the public stores.
They're going to operate a dope.
They'll all close.
If you tell Casta Vitini, he's not going to make a profit.
He'll leave.
Oh, he's gone.
That is something else.
So, Mayor, you know, obviously our audience, we're in the unique position to have you here, someone who knows a thing or two about campaigning for this job in New York City.
What's something, if you think back to your first race when you ran and you were planning, what's one thing you observed about the voters over time as you met with them the first time?
Maybe I want something that, I don't want to say changed you, but what's something you observed and realized over time as you met New Yorkers of all types throughout the city that maybe going into it, you weren't planning for or maybe weren't thinking about as much?
And that might be something that takes some time.
Yeah, it's hard to think of what you learn a lot.
You know where I really learned a lot in the race that I lost because you tend to review it more.
Wow.
Yeah.
That makes so much sense.
This is true of winning or losing anything.
Right.
When you win a baseball game, you don't think about it very much except to smile.
Right.
Play the highlights.
So you don't think of the time you struck out twice and got all screwed up by that pitcher because maybe you hit a home run.
Right.
Now you have a game that you lost, even if you got two hits and you start, you go through that.
What did I do wrong?
I should have done better.
You get pushed on losses if you are a serious person to figure out how you can avoid that in the future.
So I probably learned more.
I learned in my first race to be conversational, not formal, like a lawyer is.
I learned that you got to be open to people.
You have to give them, you got to, if you care about them, you got to let it out.
You can't keep it in.
That's what they, in certain jobs like mayor, what they want is somebody that is mature enough to take care of them.
They don't want, I mean, I can't imagine they want a silly idiot like that.
You wouldn't trust that guy to go get groceries for you at the store.
You might lose the money.
He's so impractical.
So I would say that that is the most important thing you learn in campaigning, you learn the importance of relating to people and you learn how to do it if you're capable of learning.
But...
And then you also learn, Roger taught me this, it's not so much what you say.
It is ultimately, but much more important is how you say it.
Their general impression, their general impression is what lasts with them.
Your specific position, people aren't voting usually because you're in favor of a 2% tax and I'm in favor of a 4% tax.
I don't know.
There'll be some people that'll vote for you for that reason.
But by and large, they want to know what we're going to do with it or how we're going to bring it about.
And that'll definitely get their vote.
But now that I look at the way we vote in New York and Chicago, It's terrible to have this guy on the ballot.
You can see how frightened the New York Post is.
They had it all over the headlines today.
Well, that's the one thing, right?
We're not, we don't spend as much time there.
And I think there is something to be said about being there on the ground, right?
Oh, you mean feel for it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some people deny that.
I'm just reflecting what I hear in the newspaper, what I hear on television, what I see in the newspapers, and what people tell me.
Yeah, which is a lot.
And all the people that I know thematically write him off as a jackass.
Right.
And then the unfortunate part, we have to realize how many others are voting.
I think he is a jackass.
I mean, some of the things he said there are just trillion things.
Right.
So we're working to see if we can't get somebody on here.
My understanding is, Mayor, we may not know the winner until July.
Is that true?
Well, I mean, I'm no expert on ranked choice voting.
I do remember, now, that's very interesting.
I do remember in Adams' first race under ranked choice voting, it took about that long to figure out.
took a couple weeks to figure out the race.
That's right.
Yeah.
And he only won by what, 7,000 votes?
Who?
Adams in the primary.
Yes.
Yes, but that was us.
That was also ranked choice.
Right.
And now they have a campaign.
They have a big campaign for putting Cuomo second because Cuomo is a candidate you tend to vote for or against.
He's not a second candidate.
He's a first or not.
And the polling shows him losing it on the last count.
That's right.
So we're just minutes away from polls closing.
I'm guessing in New York, like a lot of places, you get to vote.
If you're in line, you get to vote.
It's going to turn out to be very close.
There's no question it will turn out to be very, very close.
So we're following it here.
We're seeing what updates we can get, how that works here in New York.
So we're following that.
The polls are closing.
We're just minutes away.
But we want to warn our audience, we do not expect a final answer tonight.
Some say if Cuomo gets under 40 tonight, it's going to be Mom Donnie's.
So we're going to watch closely here.
We're following this very closely.
And again, the race coming down to Cuomo, the former governor, and Zora and Mom Donnie, a city council candidate who happens to be 33 years old.
Who?
Mom Donnie.
So that's the one thing that I, as a fellow 33-year-old.
33 years old.
I know what you're going to say about that, Mayor, but that's the one thing I share with this man.
He's your age.
Yes.
So we're watching that closely.
We're, of course, following Iran, Israel, the latest there, the heat wave hitting the country.
And comment below.
Let us know.
Questions for the mayor.
We're taking questions.
Again, New York City.
And yes, we know this is a local election, but the mayor's race, I don't necessarily think, Mayor, and I got to get your turnout will be, but I don't necessarily think this is a reflection of the national political wins.
Do you?
No.
I mean, New York City.
No, no, a race like this, particularly at an off time of year, where people aren't used to voting, will have a very low turnout.
And there's New York City.
It really wasn't an interesting campaign.
None of the candidates were very attractive or compelling.
Cuomo is running on his name recognition, not on his charm.
I mean, whatever else you think of Andrew, there's nothing charming about him.
The one thing he had going for, his brother is charming.
Yeah.
Well, I will say about his brother should have been the politician.
Yes, but I will say about Andrew.
I didn't know.
I don't know a damn thing about the Cuomos, besides Chris being on TV.
During COVID, when Andrew started doing those daily updates, they were silly, but I could tell this guy is positioning himself or something, right?
Oh, yeah, sure.
And that's when they took him down.
Well, that was his best.
I mean, it wasn't.
He was doing a lot of things wrong, but at least on the surface, it looked like he was at his best.
And I think that's when the Democrat Party took him down.
I mean, he took himself down.
He was an inept leader.
However, isn't that when they kicked him out of office?
He was kicked.
He was thrown out, wasn't he?
Well, he was, but I mean, I don't know if the Democratic Party did it or some enemies did it because they came up with two different allegations.
And I think the more serious one, the party would not have done because it implicated too many other governors.
Oh, the COVID stuff.
I think it was the women and the COVID.
So that's my thought.
Maybe, so you're right.
It's not necessarily the party.
It's just his political opponents.
So something that could happen that your opponents would do to you.
But your point, that's the reason, Mayor.
That's why I bring this up.
The more serious charge that affects public policy would be his COVID, his disastrous COVID response, as opposed to these allegations, which I'm not saying we don't.
I think that the charges with the old people is very serious.
Yes.
And I think it's very serious that hasn't been investigated properly.
Right.
And I'm not going to accuse him of this because I don't know the answer, but I do know it has to be answered.
And that is how much influence did his chief fundraisers have on him to trust those people in the nursing homes because they make more money that way.
Because at the time, the nursing home industry was complaining they were losing a lot of money.
So, if they could grab some COVID bodies, it'd be great for them.
Now, that would be very interesting if that were the case.
And I'd be happy to listen to an answer to it.
But I think that they have to, it's like Tampon Tim.
Until and unless they answer the question about his extraordinarily suspicious relationship with China, the state of the country, not for the sake of putting him in jail, I can't do that.
I'm going to assume that he did it because everything looks like he did it, that he was a spy for China.
Now, if there's an explanation, I'm happy to hear it if he talked out of it.
But I wouldn't give him a low security clearance, much less a top security clearance.
So spy is a loaded word, but Mayor, there's no doubt by rule, he was capitulating to the communists.
As an American teacher, you don't get to go to communist China and teach what you want to teach and expose these students to the greatness of America and capitalism.
That's true.
That's true.
He goes there.
He's basically, in effect, he's told what he can and can't say.
I'm almost sure of.
And so he's, in a way, working with them, right?
He is in a way supporting and promoting their way of life.
And he speaks so proudly about his time there.
Ted, I don't see a camera on you.
Yeah, so tonight, well, the problem tonight is the lighting.
Come and sit over here.
I'll come over here.
Oh, you have to work that tomorrow night.
We'll make it work, Mayor.
You know, today, and our people don't know this, but I'm sure they're not surprised.
The Mayor has been going on now.
We did a two-hour special before our seven o'clock show.
We've been here since 5 p.m.
on air.
I've been meaning to do this for some time, and that is to do some additions of common sense.
And we did one.
And we did one with Ali Reza Jeff Sodarti, who is the deputy director of National Council of Resistance to Iran.
And I'll put one over on me, see what happens.
We'll see.
Yeah, we'll see how it does.
I hope it does well.
So I'll show you just for a minute here.
Let's just see.
It's going to be very dark on this thing.
Probably?
Well, why don't we just take one of the...
Why don't you go behind me here?
Take that one?
Take that and put...
See?
I got an idea.
Right here in the dark.
They keep me in the dark.
No, don't do that.
Put a light on the table right here.
Yeah, I will.
Put it right here.
Yeah, I'm going to do that right now while the mayor kills time.
Watch this.
No, no, no, no.
Let's get the other one.
I'll get the other one.
I can do it.
Watch.
But then look what happens.
Watch, take it, take it.
We're doing it.
We're setting up a stat right here in front of you.
We do this before the show all the time.
I got to get a 55. Oh, maybe you can put it.
Yeah, I'll have to plug it in.
Well, move this out of the way and just put it right here.
Just put it against something right here.
Here.
Does that have a little thing on the back of it?
No.
Here, hold it.
Will that hold it?
Will that hold it?
Yeah, I'll have to.
I'll get it.
I'll work on it there.
Yeah.
I'm having fun.
Yeah, we're having fun.
I want you to be able to see him.
Where's my special light?
We used it for Ali Raza.
It's on the floor behind him.
I'll get it.
I'll get that next.
I can put it over here and point it at you.
Exactly.
I'll ask you some questions.
See if I get you to confess.
Hey, he's the best.
I knew that.
He had a few people break in.
Oh, I knew how to do that.
That's sure.
So the Supreme Court has upheld the president's being able to expel people to third countries.
So they challenged him in being able to expel, let's say, those Venezuelans, right?
To El Salvador.
And the Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision, decided that the president has the power to do that.
And the reason that's important is this indicates that there are six votes for the liberals would say an expansive reading of the president's power under the immigration clause.
I would say a fair reading of the fact that immigration is consigned almost exclusively to the president.
And to the extent that there's a check and balance on it, it's given to the Senate and the House, not to the judiciary.
And the courts have got to start disciplining themselves.
I mean, of all the branches of government, they should be the one that discipline themselves the most.
The idea of judicial restraint is very much built into our legal system.
And since William O. Douglas and all the Roosevelt communists, they've kicked the hell out of that.
The courts have become social engineers instead of interpreters of the law.
And they've become bitter and angry and ridiculous left-wingers.
I mean, they just don't have justice anymore.
If their emotions get involved, they can't do justice.
I mean, Ted saw some of it.
All you had to do is go into one of those DC courtrooms.
Oh, my goodness.
And people are the woman, the woman that had my trial, I think she wanted to kill me for being me and being with Trump.
And every time she heard the word Trump, I used to see her hair go up like this.
Whoop, Whoop, whoop, kill, kill, kill.
Here we are.
I should have known, you know, I represented a client, really nice person, who now is doing very well.
But she was harassed like hell in the DC public school system, high school system.
And let me tell you what she did wrong.
She was pictured in the Washington Post holding a MAGA sign in 2016.
And the people in her high school saw it.
And she had just, it was a special high school because she's very, very smart.
And the first month or two, she was making a very, very good transition.
She's a performer.
Even though she was a freshman, she was trying out for and got a very good part in the play, in the school play.
And she had a 4.4 earn run average, a 4.4 index, which when I went to college, it was 4.0 was the highest you could have.
You didn't get extra credit for an A plus.
But the way they do it, they give you extra credit for the A plus.
So she had a lot of A pluses.
Smart kid.
And the school went nuts on her.
They started writing her horrible things.
They started saying sexual, perverted things to her.
They made her cry.
She weren't a stronger person.
They could have done real damage to her.
But she was a strong person.
She was strong in her beliefs.
And now it sounds to me, sounds to me like she's doing fine.
But I mean, they really, I wanted her to take the case to trial.
And I let her make the decision.
I said, you got to decide whether you want to go through this because it may not be worth it.
It may not be worth it.
You got to measure the grief they're going to give you against the reward you're going to get.
And she didn't go to trial.
I don't know what actually has happened.
I think we settled it.
I don't remember now if we settled it or it was gone, but we never went to trial.
And at first she wanted to go to trial, but I always felt it was my obligation to let her know that in a case like that, the press is going to treat you like a horrible person because you support Trump.
And should they do that?
Of course they should.
But I mean, they do, and it's a reality.
And the District of Columbia, of all the courts I've been in, and there have been some pretty bad ones.
Well, the District of Columbia takes the cake.
Well, we got the worst.
Right.
Well, going back to this race, Mayor, we've had a few members of our audience point this out, that you mentioned that Chris should have been the candidate or the politician.
So are you suggesting that Fredo?
Fredo should have been the candidate?
No, I'm saying he has a more engaging personality.
No, of course, of course.
He has more of the personality.
He had some friends text in that are watching, hasn't he?
And I'm really concentrating on a rather superficial person.
Yeah, of course.
But important.
But that matters.
Yeah, I mean, let's face it, the more colorful or the more engaging.
I mean, part of Trump's success is he's a very interesting guy.
He's a very engaging, very interesting guy.
And even if you don't like him, you got to kind of like him.
That's right.
He's got a very accessible personality.
He does.
Let's say he's not a stiff.
And that again bothers me, right?
The way the media covers that.
As someone who's been around him enough the last few years, he's very gracious with his time.
He wants people to feel welcome.
And his staff at every property of his goes above and beyond for everybody.
Right.
Right.
Whether I'm with the mayor or not, they treat their guests with the utmost respect.
And that's why we miss the hotel in Washington so much.
Well, I mean, you should.
Trump Hotel.
So now, Ted, that works on the face.
I know.
What would that need?
We need a light on the other side?
We need a backlight.
I could actually move my little border here.
I'm going to move that over and see what happens.
Well, I wonder.
And I can get that other, that lights.
But honestly, Ted, it looks okay.
It does.
You look like you're getting, you do look.
Are you getting ready to confess to the MIPD?
Let's see how that works.
When you look in the window.
Right.
Well, that's got to wrap around.
Can you give us some proof of where you were at 1130 last night?
Probably here.
Probably on the air with the mayor.
Anyone can testify to that?
Probably the mayor.
I didn't hear you go out.
Oh, yeah.
The mayor.
I think the mayor, this is fun.
The mayor, because we work late.
We work late every night.
I think he thinks I like sneak off after he, after he retires for the night.
Man, I wish.
Well, I don't know if I wish.
I know, I mean, I'm on your side.
I'm not against you.
Exactly.
I know you're on my side.
It's almost, I think you're like hoping for better stories when you ask him, what did you do last night?
I would tell you.
I tell you.
I give you the inside scoop.
Besides, it's more fun to go out with the mayor than without him anyway.
So how are my Yankees doing?
You know, they went through a terrible, they went through a terrible losing streak.
And they still held on to first place, which is pretty good.
Pretty, pretty good.
You notice how that LA story has gone away with the.
It's amazing how big how big stories can overwhelm other stories.
And it really does show you the value of a war story.
So Wag the Tale was the movie that supposedly was based on Clinton doing a bombing in order to change the subject.
But I mean, he couldn't have done it better.
I mean, we could be deporting everybody right now.
Nobody pay attention.
Right.
Well, Mayor, we are getting some results in right now.
Oh, good.
The early ones don't mean much.
Can you tell in any way where they're from?
Because that I can interpret for you really well.
I don't have that information.
I'm going to try and get that here in real time.
Bear with us, folks.
We really try to give you as up-to-date information as possible while we're on here.
So these numbers just coming in.
I'm typing them in so you can have them on the screen.
So this is the numbers, but as the mayor pointed out, you really want to know where these votes are coming from.
So with 38% reporting, Mom Donnie leaves Cuomo.
That's fast, Dad.
That's fast.
We're only 13 minutes into it.
Right.
38% reporting.
And what's the numbers?
Mom Donnie, 43.1%.
Cuomo, 34%.
Lander, 13%.
And A. Adams, not to be confused with the current mayor, with 4.4%.
Well, you know, in the old primary system, he'd have won.
The old primary system was in order to win the primary, you needed 40 plus 1% of the vote.
And the reason they changed it is it was hurting the Democrats because the Democrats would more often have contested primaries, right?
Like it helped me.
Yeah.
And the way it was constructed, the election was in September.
So if you didn't get 40%, you had to go into a runoff with the number two candidate.
And that took 10 days.
So the other guy got 10 days ahead of you in running.
So they decided to get it all over.
First of all, they decided to move it to June.
So you don't really have that problem.
Like if they had the runoff like they had in the early days, it wouldn't matter anymore.
Right.
Because you're far away from the election.
But number two, by doing a ranked choice voting, they get it all over in one city.
But I mean, you could have a guy elected with 30% of the vote and 10 candidates and somebody has 27 and somebody has 20. And that really isn't a democratic election.
Nobody really wants the guy a third of the electorate.
That's crazy.
But that's a much better number than people expected from Mondami.
Yes.
Yes.
At least, although what we've been reading recently, right, I'm not as surprised.
It does seem like he's working the ground.
And looking back at this, we'll see if Cuomo didn't put the work in.
There's something to be said by that, if that's the case, right?
Where maybe Mamdani being 33, may be running more of a grassroots effort, and Cuomo is just kind of relying on his name ID.
You say 38% is in?
That's what we're told, yes.
And he's got 40, what?
43%.
He's up 43.1% to 34%.
And I'm trying to get some more here, some more details.
The impressive thing is he's over the 40% mark.
And how many candidates in the race?
They just listed the top four, and we'll see.
I believe there's a few more.
The fourth-place candidate has 4.4%, but I'll get the full total for you.
How much?
4.4%.
The lander in third is 13%.
But we're going to update these.
Okay, so here's the issue.
People think that the number two choice for that guy will be Mondami.
So those number three votes are going to go disproportionately to Mondami, not to Cuomo.
For second.
So this is not a good sign for Cuomo.
No, a couple of things aren't a good sign.
First, the heat today was a bad sign.
Because it'll hold down the turnout.
Two, the way it works is, let's say it ends up that way.
43% for him.
36% for Cuomo.
Who's in third place?
Brad Lander.
At 13?
At 13.2%.
Adrian Adams in fourth place at 4.4%.
Scott Stringer has 2%.
So I would say that the top, so combined, Mamdani and Cuomo right now are at about just under 80% total, right?
43 plus 34, 87. Oh, no, sorry, 77. And so then the red, and so then Blander with 13%.
Let's see if we can, let's put the live results up on the board here.
I'll give you guys an idea of what I'm looking at here.
The only thing missing here that would help would be that's a reversal of the poll.
The poll had Cuomo winning on the number one portion of the ballot by about 3%, 4%.
So here it is.
Put you on here too, Mayor.
There's the.
Okay, explain to me how they can have a different percentage of the vote counted.
Well, I haven't updated it.
So mine was from a couple of minutes ago.
We now have 40% in.
Yeah, but wait a second.
According if I 34. Oh, I got it.
Yeah, I have to update ours now.
So I'm taking that from the New York Times, and then I have to go in here and update this.
So now we have 40% in and Mondami continues kind of holding that lead, but Cuomo is picked up about half a percentage point here.
What's in now?
40%.
40% reporting.
And again, all we'll see tonight, my understanding, Mayor, is the first ballot.
If he finishes that way with a seven or eight point lead and Lander is number three, he's going to win.
You can almost call it.
You think Lander's, a lot of people that voted for Lander, number two?
He's a very left-wing guy.
Lander, they co-endorsed each other.
It's that bad.
That's right.
So he is expected to get a lot of his votes.
So I would say he gets 60 to 70% of the vote.
Cuomo gets very little.
The best thing for Cuomo are the people who stay home and don't feel compelled to vote for anyone now that they voted for Lander.
So we're watching this closely, 40%.
And again, tonight, all we're going to get is the first round of votes.
It might be enough.
And we're talking with some good folks.
I'm on the line with some good people in New York.
They're telling us, Mayor, that if Cuomo isn't able to get over 40% tonight, ask them if Adams, if Mandami remains at 43%, because that used to be the old rule.
43?
If you had over 40% of the vote, you won the primary.
And if you didn't, you had to have a runoff with the number two guy.
Which is true in a lot of countries, by the way.
It's true in a lot of South American countries.
And so is that still true?
If you can get to 40%, you don't have to do the ranked choice.
I don't think so.
I think you do the ranked choice no matter what.
No matter what.
But at 40%, I don't see how he can lose.
He's like less than seven points away from a majority.
And I don't see how he can lose unless there's a real reversal and everybody make Cuomo number two.
Right.
So we're watching this closely.
Again, just watch that 40 number.
We're being told that if Cuomo doesn't get over 40 tonight, he's in bad shape.
Is it over?
Yes.
So I'm told, I mean, it's not literally over, but the folks that I trust outside of Mayor Giuliani in New York on politics, they're saying 40%.
And I'm guessing anywhere around 40, even a little bit ahead will be a problem for him as well.
But they seem to think that Cuomo might be able to pick up some.
I think some folks might see Mom Dani.
They may not like Cuomo, but some folks that don't have Cuomo as number two.
I don't know that everyone's going to have Mom Dani as number two, right?
Because I think some people may have issues with him, whether it's you're a part of the Jewish community in New York and you're voting for a Democrat.
Cuomo is so well known.
He's either going to be number one or he's going to be all the way down or not even on the ballot.
You don't think there's some folks, and this is what I thought when we were talking to one of your friends.
Cuomo is a number two choice because he's too well known.
But that might be why he is a number two.
Maybe some folks are just voting for one person they like.
That person's off.
They're like, eh, all right.
Cuomo, I know that name.
But can you believe voting for this guy?
23%?
No.
I can't.
However.
You still have to raise the question, what's wrong with the people of New York?
However, when you think about it, Mayor, the media is going to cover him with kid gloves, right?
The media is going to cover him with kid gloves.
The people are going to just see him out there promising all this free stuff.
And we know that works to a degree.
I mean, Democrats, that's part of their playbook for decades.
Give him a relief from their student loan.
Right.
And then have it taken away to them.
They still vote for it.
Right.
So he's clearly putting in the time.
You even tell them that you know it's unconstitutional, but you're doing it because you're a bunch of jackasses and they won't be able to tell the difference.
Right.
So we're watching this.
Let's see if we have any more new numbers here.
50. Okay.
So now we have a big jump.
We now have 51% in.
And with 51% reporting, let's bring that up.
And what's the number now?
With 51% reporting, Mandami leads with 43.2% to Cuomo's 35.5%.
So he went up.
He is picking up votes.
Yeah, but he also went up a tenth of a percent.
He went up a whole percentage point.
Mom Dani went up.
One tenth of a percent.
One tenth of a percent.
That's right.
He was 43.1.
He's at 43.2.
That's right.
So we're keeping, write that down.
Yeah, good idea.
Write that down.
And we have another jump here now.
54% is in.
Yep.
54%.
Mom Dani, 43.5.
He's going up.
Cuomo, 35.4.
It went down.
It went down.
And so these, man, it is interesting when Democrats want to get those votes in.
I have to tell you, this is the fastest I've seen it come in in New York.
I mean, even when even when there's no fooling around, you got to really wait until about 11, 11.30.
Do you think, is this, is there early voting in New York?
Yeah, there's early voting and maybe more folks are early voting.
Is this integrated with the early vote?
That's what we have to read.
I'm going to find out if the early vote is counted because that would obviously that, So as the mayor correctly pointed out, you really want to watch where these numbers are coming.
And sure, some people are really trying to nationalize this race, and it might be in our interest to do so to keep an audience.
But the mayor, you're always honest with your audience, right?
It's not a national race.
Too many issues about Cuomo in particular that makes it a local race.
And I do not understand how this guy, Mondami, is even a Candidate.
It frightens me that we really have lost our minds.
So with 54% reporting, Momdani, 43.5% is leading Cuomo with 35.4%.
Brad Lander, the third place candidate, has 12.1%.
Adrian Adams in fourth place with 4.2%.
Scott Stringer, 1.9%.
And you have a series of folks with a few thousand votes going down to Selma Bartholomew with 755 votes.
So it looks like she got her friends and maybe her neighbors.
Well, she's a popular girl.
Wasn't Jessica Ramos, wasn't she a front runner years ago?
No, never.
Okay.
Because she has 2,000 votes.
And so obviously it's coming down to the two in the front.
I mean, Momdani, good move to go with Lander, but I guess that was kind of a no-brainer.
And Cuomo is really...
Lander is down to 12%, 12.1%, to be exact.
So of course, Eric Adams, as many have noticed, not on the ballot.
Of course, that's because he is running as an independent.
It'll be an interesting thing, Mayor, if this race is a three-way race between Mom Donnie, Adams, and Sliwa.
No, it'll be a four-way race.
Mondami, Adams, Sliwa, Sliwa, and Cuomo.
Cuomo has another line.
Cuomo has an independent line.
Really?
So does Mondami.
Meaning they'll be on the ballot either way?
They will be on the ballot no matter what, like Adams is.
How do they pull that off?
You can be on more than one ballot if you can get the signatures.
That's a no-brainer then.
Although I guess most folks...
If you make up your own party, you have to have at least 50,000.
Signatures?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, that's a high threshold.
If it's an established party, you just got to get on.
Okay.
But they must have each got 50,000.
Yep.
Right?
To run as independent, you have to get 50,000?
I think Mondami is supported by one of the established parties, maybe the Socialist Workers' Party.
Yeah.
But he may not have to worry about that.
It looks like he's in a strong position here for the Democrat to win the round one.
And then they take the after round one, if nobody gets what, 50 plus one, then they take, they drop off anyone who got under a certain amount, right?
So I would say this.
here's where I'll be able to put up where the results are coming in from too here in a second there we go okay I would say that if Mondami has 51% of the vote, right?
Right.
And then they recalculate the second, third, and fourth votes.
Right.
And he doesn't win.
Yeah.
They have acted unconstitutionally.
The majority of the people wanted him, and you're taking away from him.
Right.
That's interesting.
So here we are.
You got this cocktamy scheme where you don't want to waste time with another election.
So the Bronx with half the votes in, you see Cuomo leading Mom Donnie significantly.
That's the Bronx.
Where?
In the Bronx.
In the Bronx with half the votes in, Cuomo, 53%, Mom Donnie, 32%.
In Manhattan, Mom Donnie leads Cuomo with 61% of the vote in, 39% to 33. In Queens, Mom Dani is ahead of Cuomo, 47% to 38%.
That's with two-thirds of the vote in.
In Brooklyn, Mom Dani is absolutely crushing Cuomo with 59% of the vote in.
Mom Donnie, 50%.
Cuomo, 29%.
And then Staten Island, Cuomo leads Mom Dani.
By how much?
47% to 36%.
Unfortunately for Cuomo.
Cuomo, did you tell me 37-36?
No, 47, 36. 47. Cuomo.
And 36, Mom Dani.
Remember, this is the Democrat primary.
Yeah, but the Democrats in Staten Island are pretty conservative.
Yeah, well, just like our parents' generation of Democrats were pretty conservative, right?
They even have a black vote.
You have a black vote in part of Staten Island.
And cops.
So they might go for Adams.
Well, he's not in this race.
But I'm saying, you know, so Staten Island mayor, 88% reporting.
So that's not good for Cuomo.
He has a lead in that borough, but almost all the votes in.
And of course, Staten Island, there's about 20,000 Democrats, 20,000 total votes, and that's 90% of them in Staten Island.
Manhattan, Momdani leading.
And then the Bronx is where Cuomo is really hoping to pick up some votes.
There's about 42% outstanding, but he's, you know, it's going to be tough.
And so he's really going to have to rely on this second round and hope, in defiance of what the mayor and so many others are saying, hope that people put him down at number two.
Who?
Cuomo?
Yeah.
I think it's a very, very real long shot to put him down at number two.
Right.
He's too well known.
Right.
As I said, I think he's a guy that you either like or you don't.
Right.
So we have new votes in now, 62% reporting.
Mamdani, 43.8.
Cuomo, 35.4.
43.8, 35.4.
43.8.
35.4.
Well, that's getting closer.
It is.
It is closing.
Well, 43.8, 35.4.
He actually did increase his lead by a few.
Well, he's leading by 9.1% on the first ballot.
Yeah, he's got a significant...
You said 8%, right?
That's much better than I thought he would do.
Cuomo?
Or Mondami?
No, no, no, that's Mandami.
Yes.
Much better than I thought he would do.
Yeah, until I saw what was going on, these closing days, I saw some big celebrities endorsing him, which I know doesn't always make a difference, but I just think in a local, in a New York-style race mayor, what do you Think if you can get someone who's popular in like a borough or something.
I just think it's just so different now than when you ran.
Well, I think we will let people watch it on their own because I think that it's unlikely that Cuomo will pull it out.
I think Mondami wins.
I think that is terrible for the city.
I think it is unfortunately and in the worst way possible, very good for the Republican Party, because this will play out over the rest of America as what the hell is wrong with them?
Why don't they elect Khrushchev or something?
That's what you got here with this candidate.
And bear with me with my, just a little teeny lecture.
I believe it was Hamilton or Madison who said a democratic election only works if people are intelligent.
If we end up with an uneducated country of emotive people, they'll putting in office people that make the Soviet Union look good.
So that's my piece.
And I'm sticking with it.
Very well said, Mayor.
So we'll see how the president does at NATO.
He got an interesting issue with NATO.
You know, he went there to collect everybody's money, right?
So almost everybody's now paying except Spain.
They refuse to pay.
I mean, they go visit Xi Jinming all the time.
They should join his alliance.
Or is it Portugal?
North Bend.
He has said that I hadn't said it, but he sort of suggested that the reality is that Cuomo, from what I could tell, once removed, but I do read the New York papers every day, didn't run a very good campaign.
Who?
Cuomo.
Mayor, that's cut.
Yes, absolutely.
He was relying on his name.
Do you agree with that?
100%.
You see, you could take that name, that charisma that goes with it, and spread it around the city by going to a lot of events.
Yeah.
Being out there.
Maybe his campaign decided the guy's not likable enough.
It'll hurt.
You made that joke once, right?
Some candidates have this issue where the more they go.
This is Max Schlocky, and I'm running for controller.
And you should vote for me because I'm the smartest person in all of New York City.
And I will be able to fix your money better than all of the controllers combined times, whatever it is.
And I'm not going to say anymore because I can't think of anything else to say.
He wins by a landslide.
Well, thank you very much for listening in.
We count on you to keep our show going.
And we love you for that.
We're going to get another update here now.
We're going to keep these updates coming.
You'll have the best information.
Just stick with us.
With 70% of the vote in, Mom Donnie maintains his lead almost the same numbers, 43.8 to 35.7%.
And that's with 70% reporting.
So it looks like this will be going to a second, well, obviously a second round.
And we'll really have to see.
We'll have to see if.
Why do you say it's going to a second round?
Well, not a second round, but they'll have to count up.
They'll have to look at everyone second round.
But I'm just a little unclear.
To win, do you have to be over 50% or over 40%?
It used to be over 40% when they didn't have ranked choice voting.
Yeah, let me, I'll get that answer for you.
And I thought that was a pretty good compromise because less than 40%, it really isn't the majority's choice or...
We'll let you know that and then we'll let you go.
Yeah.
Well, we want, hey, the mayor, we want to make sure it's 50%.
Yep.
50%.
So when they changed it, they increased the number.
And when you have a big field like that, it's very hard to get 50%.
Right.
So you're always going to have this crazy counting system, which really isn't very transparent.
And it's hard to understand it.
Not a fan.
So we'll keep everyone up to date.
Maybe check our executive, the mayor.
We'll put something up if we.
Yeah, we'll put it up.
And we'll say, used to be a nice city.
Right.
You can squander your greatness by picking communists.
That's right, Mayor.
So stay with us.
We'll keep you up to date here.
Do you have your papers?
I have my papers.
We're going to see you tomorrow night at 7 and 8. 7 on Wendell TV.
Wendell TV.
8 on X. And we'll have plenty more to talk about.
Oh, yeah.
But all the crazy things that are going on.
We'll see if Como knows what will happen.
We'll see if he can have a stonewall conversation.
Well, the president's going to NATO.
He's got to make some news while he's there.
Come on.
Well, the issue I was going to cover before was he was pushing them all first to get the 2%, then 3.5%.
Now they want to go to 5. And there's a question.
Is he going to put 5 in?
Isn't that funny?
Yeah, I love that.
I think he's forced to, isn't he?
Yeah.
I mean, he looks like he was just buffing.
I love it.
All right.
Well, we'll keep everyone up to date.
Follow us on X for everything on the mayor's race.
I may not want to inform the mayor of the final results.
He won't like it.
Let me see.
Yeah, I'll let you get some good sleep, Mayor.
I'll share the bad news in the morning.
Well, at least we'll likely know.
I'm going to end saying, Jesus, you've put us through worse.
Please deliver my city from the hands of irresponsible, unreasonable, silly people.
Okay, please.
The city needs so much serious work.
And these are clowns.
Not a time for clowns.
Time for serious people that are good.
We love you, and we'll see you tomorrow night.
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