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America’s Mayor Live (685): The Life and Legacy of America's Cop, Bernard B. Kerik
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor Live on a very important day.
Today is a very important day for the whole world and for the nation.
And it's also a very important day for many of us who knew and loved Bernard Carrick.
Today is a day in which all I can think about is courage.
Courage is an uncommon virtue.
That's a saying that has an awful lot of meaning to it and goes back to the debate between, believe it or not, Socrates and Plato and Aristotle about exactly what virtue is.
What virtue is and what courage is.
But we know that courage is the most awesome of virtues.
It's the one we admire the most.
It's the one that many believe is necessary to be virtuous because it ties together the other virtues.
If you're not courageous, Well, today is the 81st anniversary of D-Day.
I announced that at one of the talks I gave for Bernie today.
And they said, And I said, what about eight days before?
It's my 81st anniversary, but that was on May 28th.
And, of course, as I told them, I read every newspaper article and became an expert on D-Day immediately as a one-week-old, which, of course, is not true.
But I did grow up in the generation where Pearl Harbor was mentioned all the time.
If my parents didn't tell me once, they told me 5,000 times where they were on Pearl Harbor.
My father was getting ready to listen to a giant football game on radio.
And you think of all those young men, many of them underage, who had...
The courage on the beaches of Normandy maybe, maybe, just maybe is the greatest display of courage by the most people ever, at least certainly in the modern world.
Well, the man that we buried today, Bernard Carrick, That uncommon virtue of courage in great abundance.
He was one of the most decorated New York City police officers.
He received its award for valor, which is the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor, for saving the life of his partner.
He received 100 other awards, 40 of which were worth of valor.
He helped to save my life and a group of other people.
When we were trapped on September 11, he had the courage to keep everything together for week after week after week after week after week in dealing with September 11, which was morphed into anthrax and then another plane crash.
There's no possible way I can describe to you all of the challenges and the challenges he had to overcome The gentleman who sat with me today, Tom Von Essen, who was the fire commissioner, and a man who wasn't with me today, who died some time ago, who was the head of emergency services, Richie Shearer.
But Richie, I'm sure, somehow, someway by now has met up with him.
In the place that Jesus has prepared for us.
So we say goodbye to Bernie with a very, very burdened heart.
I don't know when I'm going to stop saying, get me Bernie.
Probably never.
I was so used to it when the president made me his attorney for For the challenge to the 2020 election, I didn't even have to call Bernie.
He just showed up.
I mean, I knew he was going to be my chief investigator.
He knew I wouldn't have done it with anybody else, and the president knew it.
The president was very happy about that.
President loved him, cared for him greatly, and he was 100% dedicated through all of it.
You know, I don't know.
And it can happen and it doesn't always suggest disloyalty.
Sometimes it does.
But all I can tell you about Bernie is he'd have no, it was never a day, never a moment, never a time in which he didn't believe deep in his heart that Donald Trump should be president of the United States or that Donald Trump was president of the United States.
And he worked very hard for that.
And I'm so, so, so, so sad to see him go, but I am so happy that he lived to see this country in the hands of someone, Donald Trump, who can save it.
There you see the pipe and drum corps of the New York Police Department, and you get an idea of its Celtic roots, huh?
And this is the ceremony, this so-called commissioner's funeral has Celtic.
You just, you know, when that happens, that you're looking at one of your heroes.
He's being held up.
And then you see the streets of New York lined for, I mean, this man was their commissioner 20, 25 years ago.
Look at the love for him.
Not quite something.
Well, Bernard, rest in peace.
But don't rest too much, because we need you to pray for us.
He was a prayerful man.
Tough man.
Tough, tough man.
Black belt.
Principled.
Emotional.
We'll miss him a lot.
And to his family and to his daughters, who are my goddaughters, and to his son, Joseph.
We're there for you.
And when I say we, I mean all the people that were around you for the last couple of weeks, really, as Bernie fought for his life, and then certainly during the wake.
These are people that are ready to help you with the difficulties that you're going to face.
And you are the human.
You are going to face difficulty.
This Elon Musk-Donald Trump thing, I don't know, let's just forget about it.
I mean, it's the most, we don't need it.
I can make the case that Elon should not have, when he left the administration, he certainly shouldn't have.
Made allegations that the president wasn't keeping his campaign promises.
I attribute a little of that to Elon's lack of knowledge of politics.
I don't think there's ever been a politician, even those of the greatest honesty and good faith, that kept every one of their campaign promises.
You'd almost have to be Jesus to do that.
Ronald Reagan, who to me was the greatest president of the modern era and probably one of the most honest, had a lot of campaign promises, but he had three main ones.
One was to deliver us from the terrors of communism, from godless, maniacal, homicidal communism.
The second was to grow our economy.
So that Americans would be out of stagflation and in the situation they should be in tremendous economic growth.
And the third was to reduce our debt.
He accomplished two.
He increased our debt.
Because he couldn't accomplish the first and accomplish the third.
And he had to make a choice, which is more important.
He made the right choice.
Better to have debt.
And have us all talk on Russian, huh?
So, I don't know that Trump will have to make similar choices.
He may, he may not.
Along the way, he's going to have to make similar choices, because unlike the unrealistic situation some people in his party are trying to impose on him, and I find it almost childish.
And certainly, I'm not going to say ignorant, but oh, I am.
You can't turn around something like this with one budget.
They didn't cut enough.
Well, of course they didn't cut enough.
They've been putting the money there for 50 years.
You're going to cut it in one year.
Everybody go broke.
If you have a gigantic situation You got to set a sensible, you got to set a sensible program for doing it.
And of course, it's more complicated than that because some of the things that are funded are But we're not going to exist.
And some of the things are wasteful.
And some of the things are dishonest.
You just can't separate those like...
But it was ridiculous to get upset about their mistakes because they acknowledged them and corrected them.
But they also found unbelievably shocking expenditures, many of them much worse than I even thought.
So the prospect that a three-year disciplined approach to finding this will in fact find us the $1 to $2 trillion worth of savings we're going to need to overcome our debt if we have the courage to stick with it.
Is there.
But to think that you could remove it, that you could pull $2 trillion out of a budget that's about $6.4 trillion in one year and not create catastrophes.
People starving, people dying, defense programs that put us at risk with China or Russia or whatever.
It's just immature.
It means you don't understand the really important and critical things the federal government does, which is mostly our defense.
So, I am not happy with the bill.
The president's not happy with the bill.
And had he gotten bigger majorities in both houses, Otherwise, he'd ruin America.
So this has to be seen as a down payment on where we're going.
And it's a damn good one.
It's the biggest tax cut we've ever had.
Put the other way, if they screw it up, it's the biggest tax increase we'll ever have.
You want that?
I mean, I don't even get my...
And maybe they're posturing to get a few little things out of it.
but I just don't believe they're going to impose on us the largest tax cut we ever had.
That alone makes this worth it because the tax cut, which is, And all this stuff about, for the rich, my backside.
The rich don't get tips, and the rich don't count on Social Security.
And the rich, I don't know, I don't think Musk gets paid much for overtime.
Or Gates, or any of those people.
Those are all middle-class tax cuts.
Lower to middle-middle-class tax cuts.
Even all the debate about salt, you know, the state and local taxes.
And the level they got to is right there at the heart of the middle class.
It doesn't go, it doesn't reach people who are even moderately wealthy.
They're still paying money.
But as long as it isn't, you know, you can have a different rule.
Here's mine.
It gets really bad when the government goes over 50%.
When they take half, when you're working for the government more than you're working for your family, then we're becoming like a communist country.
So if they're taking 55%, it starts to get ridiculous.
Let's get it below 55, and then as far down as we can go.
So people make their own choices with their money, which creates a much more dynamic, growing, and productive economy.
But this bill is a good step in that direction.
And let's hope that this debate between Musk and Trump doesn't put it in further jeopardy.
I don't think it will, you know, these congressmen and senators, as Ted knows, having worked there, they have their own, They've got definitely their own agenda.
Absolutely.
100%.
Yeah, and their own lobbyists.
Oh, yeah.
Musk getting upset about it.
I don't know.
It might even help.
Who knows?
Some of them don't like Musk, right?
Well, look, one thing we can say about this, I mean, it doesn't...
We don't want to give them any more fodder.
It's okay to disagree, for one.
And I think the concern here is how.
The way that this unfolded publicly.
But I think in the long run, none of this surprises us in terms of strong personalities.
The richest man in the world and the most powerful.
Someone put it like that.
Was that you, Mayor?
Yeah, it really is, right?
It's like murder in the cathedral.
Yeah.
Not murder, though.
I mean, you know, like between Henry II and Beckett or Henry VIII and St. Thomas More.
I will say, we were one day at Mar-a-Lago.
Elon, I can't imagine he goes out of his way to pop up and say hi to people.
He did with the mayor.
He saw you.
He said, Mayor Giuliani!
Usually people are going up to him.
I remember that was interesting.
I guess now he'll go and he's got a lot of work to do there.
There's a lot of work to do with the beginning.
It's his first inning or maybe the second inning.
Right.
If it plays a nice 9-8 ballgame, we're going to be in great shape.
We're just getting started.
So there was a really important event in Washington today that is overlooked by everyone, of course, because nobody really cares about you in the media except a few people.
Epic Epoch Times, and we're going to get definitely the right book.
Do you know that Ted is sitting on the floor tonight?
He's so dedicated.
He's sitting on the floor.
Where we are, I should let you know, we are a very iconic place.
We're at the Plaza Hotel, which is featured in Home Alone 2 with a scene with the owner of the Plaza Hotel.
With a scene with the owner.
And we're going to maybe dig it up and find it for you.
But we have a nice room here at the Plaza, which we took yesterday, because we came in a day before so we could go to the wake.
And we were all there, Ted and Dr. Maria and I, honoring our good friend Bernie.
And it was very beautiful.
But they're not telling you, nobody's telling you about the program today in Washington.
I mean, they talk about all kinds of programs, and they weren't talking about the program put on by the Epoch Times about China's infiltration into the United States.
Now, this is a subject that requires a six-credit full-year course.
There's no organization that knows as much about it as the Epoch Times or can bring to you the people from inside China.
I heard just some of it with someone inside, I think, China.
They didn't tell us where he was.
I was worried about the guy.
But it is hard to really Describe to you in a way that brings home the full scope of this, the length and breadth of the Chinese infiltration of this country.
I do not believe we've ever been infiltrated this way.
I know the Russians weren't as deeply into it as the Chinese, because I'm aware of the Russian infiltration.
And it was deep, but it was nothing like this.
The Russians did espionage and the Russians did a certain amount of citizen infiltration, but nowhere near the amount that is done by the Chinese.
And they had short programs on all of this, at least alerting people to the levels of infiltration in the universities, in large businesses.
In areas, of course, particularly where they can do intellectual property theft, way down to grammar schools, the beginning of education, almost anything that educates, you know, map companies and book companies.
A big one?
A really big one?
I don't know if I'd say control.
Certainly.
Tremendous amount of power in our entertainment industry so that you virtually cannot do a movie that's critical of China.
You can do plenty of movies critical in the United States.
That's all they do.
I mean, two-thirds of the movies, I mean, I stopped going 20...
We had males.
Did you know that?
Being a man and a male, I like cowboy movies and I like detective movies and I like spy movies, all that kind of thing.
And I like movies about war.
And the war movies were beautiful and it made you want to serve your country and it made you love your country.
And then all of a sudden I noticed, and this is the change with Vietnam, that the war movies, the soldiers were being, the soldiers that used to be presented as heroes, and regular guys in some cases, or, you know, special guys in other cases, all of a sudden every soldier was some kind of a very sick little puppy.
They were all suffering and some were sadistic.
Some were insane.
Look at Deer Hunter.
I mean, the guy blows his brains out, right?
All those, they're all anti, like, there's something wrong with our soldiers.
I stopped going to them.
Because, of course, we want to know about PTSD.
And, of course, we want to deal with it.
But you've got to present it in a balanced way.
Not everyone who has fought in a war emerges with PTSD.
Or even when they do, it isn't the kind of PTSD that's going to ruin the rest of their lives.
It doesn't mean we should ignore it.
On the other hand, we shouldn't paint it as all people who fight in war are disabled.
They're not.
In fact, very often they're empowered.
I believe China created that for us.
Now, if you were to do, let's say you wanted to do a feature movie on the Chinese genocide of the Uyghur people, you know, dramatizing it, or you wanted to put on television some of the great novels that have been done by Chinese authors on the torture that's done in China.
Have you ever seen one?
Have you ever seen anything on China about how the Chinese appoint bishops in the Catholic Church?
That'd make a good movie, right?
Have you ever seen anything on the Uyghurs?
Have you ever seen a movie about the Falun Gong and the fact that, according to reports from the United Kingdom, China is the number one source of live organs?
They don't take them from dying people.
How about a movie on that?
That's a well-documented international crime.
It would be fascinating for a James Bond-type movie, right?
How about having police stations in America?
That wouldn't make a good movie.
How about one just on the police station they had in New York and what they do and how they go find third-generation Chinese and extort them to spy if they have any connections back in China?
You've seen nothing about that.
You hardly read about it, and you certainly see nothing in the mass media about it.
That is not by accident.
That is part of the This program started to bring it out.
And there's a lot to learn about this, and we're going to be covering it.
So by the time you're finished, oh, six months with us, we'll give you a certificate.
Understanding Chinese infiltration.
But it should have gotten attention.
And it didn't for the exact same reason that they had to have it.
If that makes sense to you.
But we're going to take a short break and we'll be right back.
Thank you.
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This is Rudy Giuliani back with you on America's Mayor Live, broadcasting from his old hometown of New York at the Plaza Hotel.
Now, we said before we were going to show you the former owner who appeared in the movie Home Alone 2. This is the Plaza Hotel that we're in right now.
It's been remodeled somewhat, but this is...
Down the hall and to the left.
Thanks.
Excuse me, where's the lobby?
Down the hall and to the left.
Thanks.
Thanks.
When was that movie?
1990, maybe?
91, 92?
Something like that?
Yep.
That was the second one.
The second one, so...
And you know, there were various...
You know where Chinese-dominated Hollywood took that scene out for some time.
And they got so many complaints, they had to put it back.
That's right.
They took Trump out.
That's right.
I think Canada, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation did that, if I remember correctly.
Let me get that.
CBC, so a lot of these...
Are Canadians communists?
I wonder if that, yeah, you know...
But I think you would agree with a lot of the problems, right?
Like, what's happening to the Canadian people.
Maybe they just had it too good.
Do we really want them?
That's the thing.
We can all vote Democrat.
We don't want two more Canadians.
We don't want two more Senators.
Are their minerals worth it?
The minerals aren't worth going communist.
Right.
Imagine Trudeau as a Senator.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe it's possible we could just take the Western part of Canada.
Oh, we want that.
I wonder if that's where the minerals are, too.
Edmonton.
I bet they are, because that's where the oil is.
The Stanley Cup, Edmonton Oilers against the Florida Panthers.
Well, we are now awaiting, I believe, Putin's response to the devastating attack of earlier this week when When Ukraine hit 3,500 hundred miles into Russia
and took out an air base, based right above Mongolia, basically on the Mongolian border, as well as an air base at virtually at the Arctic Circle.
It showed the capacity that they have to inflict The purpose of it, I'm sure, was to try to convince Putin that it isn't worth continuing this battle.
Now, from the rhetoric, it appears as if what it convinced him to do is to strike back.
even some suggestions that they might strike back with tactical nuclear weapons.
Of course, we don't know what the result of the Trump-Putin conversation was, but Trump said as much that he expected that there would be Actually, Trump said today he expects that the war is going to continue for a while.
Luckily, he didn't say that...
I don't want them to pull out of the effort because I think that that would make peace almost impossible and this would be an ongoing forever war if America pulled out.
I don't think Europe would be capable.
Of really containing Russia or be able to do enough to help Ukraine contest Russia.
I don't think we have to be the only player.
I'm not even sure we have to be the biggest player.
I think Europe has to take a big part of this burden.
But I do think we have to be involved, particularly to control Russia's worst instincts.
And a continuation of this war.
If, in fact, we're going to allow the gloves to be taken off, Ukraine could start to even the score quite a bit.
It could even mean the end for Putin.
I don't mean being killed.
I mean, being thrown out.
I mean, the financial condition of Russia is precarious, as it is in China.
And the combination of war...
That's another way to look at this.
Also, having now put us through this, the price has to go up as far as Putin is concerned in terms of any kind of peace that he wants.
No peace on his terms.
The peace has to take a big chunk out of him and not just out of Ukraine.
So let's see if that is what happens in this transition that is now going on.
In Israel, the issue really is, and this is clearer to me than anything, it's over.
I mean, there's no purpose at all to a written agreement with Iran.
It's not worth it.
First of all, they're objecting so much to it, you know they're not going to follow it.
If they do it, they're just going to do it because of Not wanting to hold us off for a little bit longer.
You know they don't believe in it or embrace it.
And they cheat and lie and never keep their words.
Even when they don't telegraph, they're going to do that.
And now they're telegraphing they're going to do that.
And I don't know, maybe this is all posturing.
I am praying that it is.
But they are getting me nervous with all these things that we want some kind of written agreement with them.
But we prefer a written agreement.
I prefer taking out the nuclear facilities because then I'd feel the world was safe.
The world is not safe with a written agreement with the reign of terror.
It isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Might as well not have it.
The only thing that will make us safe is if we take out all those nuclear facilities, and if they want to start over again, go ahead, bankrupt yourself, start over again.
And I don't think we hit them and lift the sanctions.
We lift the sanctions when the reign of terror is over, when the Ayatollah is a matter of history.
And the people of Ukraine, like the people of Poland, who are liberated and become a free people again.
people of Iran rather.
The minerals from Ukraine and the mineral rights that we're negotiating for elsewhere are really important because of the situation with China.
But freedom for these people.
Is also really important, particularly for the Iranian people.
And the other thing about Iran is I just don't see a viable way to a lasting peace in the Middle East as long as the reign of terror has the ambitions of developing an Islamic empire.
Because an Islamic empire would...
Oh, don't get all comfortable, the Christian people too.
Well, we saw Kash Patel today, but I did not think it was appropriate to use it as an occasion to ask him a whole bunch of questions.
So we didn't ask him any questions except wish him well.
But let's talk about them, okay, Ted?
Mm-hmm.
So where do you think they are on this Epstein thing?
And I have to tell you, I know curiosity is enormous, right?
Mm-hmm.
But I'm much more important.
About investigations of the Biden cover-ups than I am Epstein.
Right.
And so it's interesting, and we did see your friend Cash today, and some people are, you know, they want everything solved day one, right?
And nobody knows, I don't want to call it complicated, but the...
And people are going to want to hear your opinion much more than mine, Mayor.
But my only question to some folks would be, what is the appropriate amount of time?
You've lived through this, you know.
So you have a very sure point of view You're FBI man of the year.
I mean, we're talking to someone here who knows the ins and outs of the Justice Department, the FBI, Washington, right?
You've gotten to know Washington under numerous presidents.
And so, look, I get frustrated, right?
We all do.
President Trump is a man of action.
You're a man of action.
So, you know, when I'm around these types of folks, you want to see results, especially considering what we went through the previous four years.
But as you've said many times, Mayor, we still believe in the rule of law.
And we believe in the Constitution.
And we got to have some semblance of order here.
And so my hope is that they're doing the work to ensure when, We should just hold them accountable on the numerous issues, whether it's Epstein or some of these other issues.
January 6th, the committee, what's going on there?
And like you said, the Biden cover-up, the auto pen.
Who knew what and when as far as his mental incapacitation?
And are we going to get anything beyond these highlight reels from these congressional hearings?
Right?
Plenty of those.
Plenty of points being made in these hearings and press conferences and tweets.
But Mayor, I think some people want to see some action.
Some people held accountable.
So this doesn't happen again in the future.
There's a really good point to that.
I'll give you a little chance to think about it because there was a comment made to me by someone at the wake last night, a very close friend of Bernie's and a person very knowledgeable about these things that I want to bring up.
But we'll do that very shortly and we'll take a short break.
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The 40th police commissioner of the NYPD.
He also ran Rikers Island, where he saw a record drop in crime.
And went on to have a very successful career in the private sector.
and advised dozens and dozens of entities, companies, governments on security.
And so it was a big loss for...
Bernie Carrick, as so many people said today, really was a cop's cop.
And he seemingly had done it all.
The stories that I had, you know, the mayor has told me from the moment I met him to all of his friends and family today.
This is the definition of a true hero.
I actually met Bernie Carrick for the first time following the 2020 presidential election.
I was on the campaign for President Trump, and a lot of us knew a lot of funny business was happening in those days right after Election Day.
And when the mayor came, Bernie Carrick was there as well.
Bernie, he actually was driving the car the first time I met him with the mayor and some others right after the 2020 election, right after Election Day.
And so just wanted to share some pictures here.
I'm Bernie in the map.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So this is Bernie and the Mayor right after 9-11.
That's Saturday Night Live set, if I recall correctly.
That's right.
I remember that.
And this one, Bernie's showing off a badge.
Is this when you named him the commissioner?
Yeah, that must be.
He's got a badge in his hand there.
Yeah.
What was that for Jefferson portrait they took down?
The communist.
That's more recent.
That's September 11th.
Just by the expression on our face, you can tell it's September 11th.
The blue ribbon.
And this must have been right after.
Or maybe before, probably right after.
September 11th, that's the way we're dressed.
Right.
And this one, that's an iconic photo.
Yeah.
It's you, the commissioner, the fire, and the president.
Yeah.
And I believe the governor might be there behind Bernie.
Right, that was.
That's right.
And that's another one from a more recent time.
Well, here we are back at the Plaza Hotel.
And I wanted to raise the question.
We were talking about FBI investigations and the things that need to be investigated.
And one gentleman is going to move just a little this way.
What do you think, Ted?
That's better, right?
Oh, there we go.
Front and center.
We want to be in a center.
So he said to me the following very, very earnestly and very concerned.
And I thought he made the right point.
There's an awful lot of propaganda that is created.
That basically tries to stop the Kash Patels and the Pambandis from investigating on the theory that you can't be vindictive.
You can't do your own lawfare.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
This is like what they've done with Palestine and Israel.
They created a moral equivalent between a terrorist state that steals money and starves their people, wants to eliminate the Jewish people in America, and a lawful democracy that just wants to thrive and survive.
There is no moral equivalency between what they did And then holding him accountable for what they did.
They committed dastardly crimes.
And now they're going to get away with it because we shouldn't do the same thing.
We're not doing the same thing that they did.
We're not prosecuting Jim Comey with the kind of frame-up that he prosecuted General Flynn.
He virtually admitted that he entrapped General Flynn.
Comey lied over and over and over and over and over again under oath on one of our most important documents, a national security document that resulted in illegal investigations of an innocent man.
That's a crime!
That's not lawfare to prosper.
That's, that's, that's, It's called something we forgot.
Democrats haven't known it in a long time.
It's called justice.
The criminal law exists for the primary purpose of punishing the guilty in order to achieve justice, but also for deterrence.
To say to people that might consider Committing the crime, it's not worth it.
This goes back not just to English law, but to Roman law, Napoleonic law, any legal system.
You can never possibly prosecute all those who commit crime.
So you hope to reduce the number of people committing crime by using people who are caught as examples.
When you fail to do that, you encourage criminals to commit crimes.
And this gentleman said to me that if we ignore this out of intimidation, that we're going to be painted as people who are acting unfairly.
It's just going to happen all over again.
He said, all these people better be ready to go to jail if the Democrats come into office.
They won't care.
They won't care that they weren't prosecuted.
They won't care that it was legal.
They'll make it up like they did with Trump, like they've done with me, like they've done with Professor Eastman, like they've done with 50 other people.
So I think that it is important that these things be brought to account.
I think it's important that The people who did this are singled out.
I also think it's important for history that the truth comes out.
And I think that means a massive investigation of the Biden overlapping circles of RICO cases.
I mean, there are at least five different major crimes they committed.
And they all really fit into the same overall situation.
And they should be prosecuted, despite the fact that Joe Biden might not be able to be a defendant because he's non-compass menace, or despite the fact that some of them may be immune.
They're not all immune.
And I think some of the immunities might well be challengeable.
Particularly if they're done by an auto pen.
The Constitution says the president has to do a pardon, not an auto pen.
We don't elect an auto pen.
And a pardon has to be a meaningful act.
If you go back to the Constitutional Convention, the pardon power of the president is borrowed from the pardon power of the king.
And the king has to know what he's doing in order to pardon you.
Otherwise, the pardon's not effective.
Well, if he doesn't know what he's doing, all those pardons aren't worth the paper they've written on.
And so those cases might be prosecutable.
You could challenge it that way.
You could include in the indictment those who haven't been pardoned, of which there are many that were in both the Obama and Biden administrations.
And then you can challenge the pardons where there was an auto pen that was used.
And I would say that...
Which is what we want.
We want a two-party system.
Of course we want to destroy the crooked Democrat Party.
We don't want to destroy an opposition party.
I would prefer and feel much more comfortable with a party that had a different name.
Because I think that their hypocrisy in changing names is amazing when you consider that the closest name associated with slavery is Democrat Party.
And they go around using it all the time.
It's about time that we're honest about that.
So, so, I don't know what we're looking to this weekend.
I think, let me see if I can, we certainly, we don't know what's going to happen.
I mean, we know what's on the table.
Putin is going to have to make a response.
And we have to see what kind of response it is.
Is it a response that is not intended to It is about time that the Iran situation is settled with a destruction of their nuclear
facilities.
All of the trade agreements are still going on.
Trump just had a very Lengthy conversation with Xi Jinping.
Let's see what kind of an effect that has on the whole negotiation with China.
But no matter what we negotiate with China, let's follow up on that program that the New Epoch Times has about infiltration, because our future is at stake there.
I thank you very, very much for listening in today, particularly because so much of it concerned my good friend and your big hero for America, Bernie Kerik.
This was a wonderful life.
This was a man who saved many, many lives and inspired many, many people.
And he's going to be very missed.
I mean, missed so that there are days in which...
Because you can't imagine how resourceful this man was.
And how brave he was.
And what good common sense he had.
Maybe that all goes together.
I don't know.
But I want you now to go over to Lindell's speech or rumble or...
For?
And Dr. Maria is also broadcasting from here today, from New York, because she was at the funeral of her friend, Bernard Carrick.
And she always has a fascinating observation on things that are a little bit different because of her Republican-Libertarian viewpoint, which is very much a part of her.
So, you go over now to Lindell TV, Rumble.
What else, Ted?
For the Dr. Maria show, Lindell TV and Lindell TV on X. Oh, Lindell TV on X. I believe.
But definitely, LindellTV.com is a place to go to see the Dr. Maria show.
Every Friday, 9 p.m. Eastern.
Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays at 9. And then you stay tuned in case we have anything for you on the weekend.
Just keep watching, just in case.
And then we'll be back at 7 o 'clock on Lindell TV on Monday and 8 o 'clock with America's Mayor Live.
Pray for the people of Ukraine and of Israel and of Iran so that they have freedom.
Pray for us.
Because, as I explained last night, or actually two nights ago, because we were at the wake last night, these axes that are forming on both sides are very reminiscent of what happened before the First and Second World War.
I don't like it.
Because it means that if there's hostility with one country, it doesn't remain one country in the other.
Then other countries necessarily get involved.
And that's how you trigger a world war.
So let's keep very much on top of it and be very careful.
And of course, let's pray to God for peace.
And thank him for what he's given us in America.
When we say God bless America, it's a prayer, really, when we end this show.
So let's all...
Why don't we all just yell out together?
Because I can hear you if you yell out loud enough, particularly here if you do it in the hotel.
God bless America.
God bless America.
It's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense.
Written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers in which Thomas Paine explained by rational principles the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech.
The ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past.
And see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country.
A country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.
We're able to talk.
We're able to analyze.
We are able to apply our God-given common sense.
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