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Dec. 17, 2024 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (561): President Trump Responds to Mysterious Drone Sightings, Demands Answers
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Good evening, this is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor Live on X and numerous other places.
I want to tell you that there is an article in Newsmax, and I didn't see it until after I saw Mr. Ruddy yesterday, and it says, Kremlin praises Trump, pounds the Ukraine in massive attacks.
Now, the only reason I don't like that they praised Trump, it just feeds into that absolutely ridiculous Russian collusion story that I probably gave half my life to a defendant.
And we conclusively, I mean, we won it more conclusively than you ever win a case.
I mean, for example, in a criminal case, what you actually win You almost never win that the person is innocent.
You win that the person isn't guilty because the jury has to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt they did it.
So there might be a lot of reasons they did it, but that doesn't get to a reasonable doubt.
In this case, we have conclusive evidence from the hard drive that it was made up, Russian collusion, wasn't even just a mistake, which for the longest time when I represented them, we thought it was.
It was made up and paid for by Hillary Clinton with the absolute connivance of Brennan and the 51 spies who lied and Prince Obama and Whitless Joe and the whole group of them.
And it's almost as if it doesn't matter.
They concluded before the election that it wasn't true.
The FBI investigated it.
There is a tape recording.
Not me.
Mr. Strzok calling his mistress and saying after the report, you know, the report is Either classified or sealed at this point.
He's not supposed to tell because she was a lower level of the FBI than he was.
But when these affairs take place, very often confidentiality is breached, right?
So he calls her, Ms. Page, and he says very cryptically something like, it's over.
She understands that that means they didn't find any evidence that Trump Was colluding with the Russians.
But he says, don't worry.
And she says, does that mean he's going to win?
And he says, well, don't worry, we have insurance.
So at the time when that first came out, people thought there were other things they were going to do.
The insurance was just a very, very boldly, just go ahead with it, even though they had proven it was untrue.
And they knew it was purchased.
And it was a work of fiction.
It was like a novel.
And they went ahead with it, and they went ahead with it anyway.
And people yawn at that.
We will be the great country we used to be.
When we hear something like that, we're shocked.
We're shocked at a high official of the government.
Would pay money to frame someone else to try to convict them of a crime they didn't commit.
Maybe it's because I was a prosecutor, but I consider that one of the worst things you can do.
Certainly is a crime against our entire system when you do that.
But even conservatives don't react to that the way they should.
That could be one of the most serious, traitorous acts in the history of our republic.
Imagine if someone paid a large amount of money to make up a false story about Abraham Lincoln to try to have him removed by impeachment because they wanted to interfere with the Civil War.
That would be one of the greatest scandals in American history, correct?
That's what they did.
And who knows?
Hundreds of people knew it.
Almost all the people I was questioning knew it.
I didn't know it.
The President didn't know it.
Jay Sekulow, my co-counselor, didn't know it.
And then it took years for Republicans to believe it.
I'm not sure Republicans still believe it.
Because there's something wrong with some Republicans.
Well, they're...
I have to say...
Let's see if Ted agrees with this.
They are contesting his nominations.
But it's nothing like what they did last time.
The whole reaction to Trump this time is ridiculous, childish, immature fear on the part of some of those people who went to Europe or two of them went to Italy.
But it's not the same thing.
When he won the first time, many of the schools had rooms where the children had to go.
Cry rooms.
Like it was the Battle of Britain or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
100%.
I would like to know who all those kids are because I would never hire them for a sensitive government job.
I would not have wanted to have those kids around me on September 11th.
Oh my gosh.
You know, 20 years later or 30 years later, having to make decisions under threat that they might be dying.
But what are we going to do?
Set up a little fear room for them?
Gee, I'm sorry.
We're going to call off the attack.
Gee, stop attacking us so you can go talk to the psychiatrist.
It's absurd.
And you're right, Mayor, we're seeing a lot less pushback.
A lot of these senators, look, a lot of them are remaining quiet on some of these picks.
Now, I hope I'm not fooling myself.
The real test will be, first of all, January 6th, when they try to recreate the insurrection that they brought about on January 6th, four years ago.
I think...
But this time it's going to be hard for them to blame it on us.
I hope we're not stupid enough to get involved with them.
Look, they tried to make it untenable to support President Trump in polite society, really in public at all, back in 2016. They tried it again in 2020. It worked to a degree.
That's what January 6th was half about.
I mean, there are many, many people who love President Trump and admire him, but there are many who have given up on him.
That's right.
Not personally, but they- Some out of anger to him because they bought it.
Yeah.
Some who knew it was manufactured but thought it was manufactured so well he'd never get out of it.
Peer pressure.
They were afraid and they weren't willing to stand up for- I just knew one or two things were going to happen.
He's going to die or he was going to get out of it.
He was going to spend every waking moment from the moment he left the White House until the moment he got back or he was going to die in the effort.
Mm-hmm.
So, you know, from the moment you met me, you met me earlier, but the moment we got to know each other, the first thing I told you was he was going to overcome it.
Yeah, that's absolutely right, Mayor.
Of course, I met you.
I didn't think it'd be easy.
Because the stakes were so high, there were times I was emotionally afraid that he wouldn't, including right up to Election Day.
Because there was too much riding on this election.
We never should have so much riding on a road.
And damn it, after that 2020 election, after election day.
You can expect anything.
And they made it so immediately, right?
They squashed and they quashed anyone that was even raising concerns about what was going on with that election.
You came into that campaign office, Mayor.
I don't know if that was a few days after.
It was a day after.
Day after, you come in there, I'm like, yo, this is the guy I want to ride with, because you had people in there, not all, right, a lot of folks had, they were checked out.
Some of them had given up.
Weeks before the election.
Yeah, they had given up on President Trump about four weeks before the election.
They concluded that Biden was going to win, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, of course.
So, but then, completely...
Nope.
On a small level, they're still doing the same crooked things they've always done.
They're trying to do a Kavanaugh to Pete Hexer.
And at first it looked like it was going to work.
Then Pete got a lot of people to defend him.
I guess maybe the worst one was the one where they said he lied about ever applying to and turning down The Military Academy.
And of course, the Military Academy confirmed that.
And then it turned out to be what I would call a damn lie.
Now, it could be the Military Academy Just making a mistake.
They don't make many mistakes.
I know the military academy much better than I know most institutions.
It was in my district when I was U.S. attorney.
I prosecuted all of their cases.
I was a guest lecturer, and I went to any number of football games.
And they are very, very careful.
I would call them obsessively compulsive.
So I'm just going to have to Using my prosecutor's mind, say that this was an attempt to get a quick punch in.
It's quite clear that he was offered a seat in the class, and he luckily had the letter, produced it, and then they said, we're not supposed to lie at West Point.
Yes, yes, yes, he applied.
Don't ever discount the ability Of the American military industrial complex to lie in order to save for itself the enormous amounts of money that it makes.
I am an extraordinarily big supporter of higher military budgets.
I'm also an extraordinarily big supporter of cutting most of these contracts in half.
That's right.
There's just way too much graft and lobbying money and entertainment money and just straight out cash.
In these contracts.
Remember, the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which makes it a crime for an American to offer a bribe anywhere in the world, which I think may very well be unconstitutional, was passed because of the criminality of the American military industrial complex in the 1960s and 70s.
They would offer bribes in countries that were friendly, countries that were enemies, Countries didn't even exist.
It was so bad that Congress, after years and years of trying to avoid it, because they get so much, they call it campaign money, but all sorts of trips, gifts, that they wouldn't vote for it until it became politically just not feasible not to.
So you can be an extraordinarily big supporter of the military To the point of even excessive, which I consider myself, but you could also be just as strong a critic of the American military industrial complex as along with the pharmaceutical industry, two of the most corrupt institutions in America that have an impact on our national health and security.
They're not just, oh gee, cars cost more.
Lives get lost.
Well, that's what they're doing to Pete.
And they're not done, Mayor.
Also, you know, the one where they say that he had non-consensual sex with the young woman, there are pictures of them holding hands and hugging going into the room.
She didn't tell her husband for three days.
And during the course of the rape, she had two conversations with her husband.
Now, I prosecuted rape cases.
I don't think I ever had a rape case where the victim called a husband.
By the way, the woman always tells the truth, right, Ted?
That's the rule.
That's the way it worked out at Duke, right?
That's right.
She was telling the truth, right?
That's right.
And now she apologizes 20 years later as if...
Oh, my goodness.
She's a big, stinking liar.
I had a murderer.
Oops.
And we're supposed to accept the apology and move on.
Meanwhile, these young men who's...
It wasn't just like a little...
It went on for a year.
And I love the way the Democratic governor, who was the AG, said, I took up the case.
It took him a year to take up the case.
By the time he took up the case, these kids were ruined.
One of the kids was a good friend of my son's.
So I know this case intimately.
My son was one year behind them at Duke at the time.
They were on the lacrosse team.
He was on the golf team, but they're in the same dorm.
And he called me the day it came out to tell me he wasn't involved because I was worried.
And he said, Dad, you should really read up on the facts of this case.
I don't think they did this.
This is weird.
She apparently, the other girl who was there stripping, Had a big fight with her because she was knocked down, drugged, or...
Inebriated.
She fell asleep.
She was supposed to strip, but she fell asleep.
That's right.
Well, let's hear...
This is Crystal Magnum.
I believe this was late last week, admitting...
And that was wrong.
And...
I testified falsely against them by saying that they raped me when they didn't.
And that was wrong.
And I betrayed the trust of a lot of other people who believed in me and made up a story that wasn't true because I wanted validation from people and not from God.
And that was wrong.
And I hope that they can forgive me.
And I testified falsely against them.
Wow.
So?
Again, very little focus on the people she hurt, right?
She really made that apology a lot about her.
Yeah, her affect was very, very strange.
Almost, I mean, I hate to say it, it almost seems like she's been sedated in some way.
Yeah.
But in any event, she has parole coming up.
I don't want to be a cynic.
But I also don't want to be unrealistic about this.
So tell us about this terrible shooting in Wisconsin, Ted.
A shooter is a 15-year-old, and it's really weird, a girl.
That's right.
I don't know if we've ever had a mass shooting that I can remember recently by a girl.
That's right.
So we are getting live updates coming in as we speak.
This happening at a Private Christian school outside of Madison, Wisconsin.
At this hour, we understand that there's been some multiple reports on casualties.
Of course, casualty does not mean deceased.
What we know at this time is that the media is reporting that the school shooter is a 17-year-old female.
A 17-year-old female, teenage student.
I have 15 and 17. That's where we are.
That's what happened.
I should tell you what I would always do when I had to handle these, either as U.S. Attorney or Mayor.
I would tell you, I'm going to give you the facts that I have, and half of them are going to turn out to be different a day or two from now, and not on purpose.
There are things that happen on purpose sometimes, but...
There's a tremendous amount of emotion involved in this, not only for the people, the victims, the victims' families, but even a lot of people in law enforcement.
This is different than the normal...
When they shoot children, it's different than the normal murder that you cover, even if you're a homicide detective.
There's a different kind of personal thing that gets involved in it.
But go ahead.
That's right.
So this...
Again, they identified this individual as a 17-year-old.
The media is reporting a 17-year-old female.
Other reports won't say age, so they're just calling her a teenage female.
This happened at the Again, this information coming in quickly here.
A teacher and a teen student were killed in the shooting by a fellow student.
Madison Police Chief said at a press conference Monday evening, four other students are being treated at local hospitals with two in critical condition.
The AP is reporting that the shooter is a 17-year-old female student The shooter is dead, was reportedly found dead by suicide when officers arrived.
The shooting took place at the non-denominational Abundant Life Christian School, which has 420 students from pre-K through the high school.
Police are having a fourth press conference tonight.
Again, they aren't releasing More information on the shooter while people on Twitter, social media have released names.
Maybe we'll wait to get some confirmation.
There's no point in the shooter is dead.
They're not looking for the shooter.
Tragically, the crime is over.
There's nothing we can do.
So we might as well calmly and dispassionately review the facts and find out what happened.
And calm things down.
That's right.
And you know, this being a female, that is extremely rare in the U.S. Did they say whether it was a student?
They are saying, they're characterizing her as a student at the school.
Okay.
Look, I've seen pictures.
Have you seen pictures of her?
Of her.
We're waiting, and I believe we might get this, stay with us all hour into the nine o'clock hour because we're going to get more information.
I've seen pictures.
We're waiting for some confirmation.
Today?
Today.
Pictures of her.
The last thing she posted before opening fire.
Again, we want to corroborate this.
I'm looking to do that.
She was posting pictures from the bathroom inside the school, if this is indeed her.
Who never went online is the guy who attempted to kill President Trump the first time.
He's the only person in the history of the world not to have an existence.
That's right.
We know everything about these other guys within minutes.
By the time they shoot in the history books, they're going to have wiped that one out.
We actually don't know who it was right now.
We're not sure.
Was he actually hit by a bullet?
Remember that one?
So school shootings by teenage females have been extremely rare in the U.S., with males in their teens and 20s carrying out the vast majority of school shootings.
Well, it's true of shootings in general.
Males do at least 90-plus percentage of shootings every year.
It may even be 95 and 96. That's right.
So we will see.
So when they say we're not different, we kill, they don't.
That's a good point.
Overwhelmingly, I'd love to get the percentage on that.
You always get the, you know, the strange situation of a woman who kills her husband or something.
But by and large, if it's a killing and you're going to bet on it, the odds are about 9.5%.
It's a.5 that it's a woman.
A man, rather.
That's right.
And now, again, we don't want to get ahead of ourselves here.
We don't want to report on rumors and such.
What we will say is that we're seeing a lot of chatter.
We're not going to name names yet.
We are seeing some chatter that this may have been A transgender individual going from female to male.
Now this is...
The police have refused to actually disclose the gender.
Why don't we just wait?
We're not naming names.
We don't have an age.
Because I have no desire to blame this in any way on transgender people.
But I do have a desire to point out if it's uh if it's suppressed and therefore they're treated differently than than others and therefore the public doesn't get the right information about the tremendous uh effect on uh the psyche of going through something like that so let's keep our mouths shut until we know what we're talking about sure well let's hear from police uh but
i mean that there was that one in was that in tennessee ted or kentucky where the person had the um had written the uh memo that was tennessee the the manifesto that's right and they covered up the manifesto for six months and then even when it came out they covered it up and uh she uh it was one of those situations yeah Let's hear from the police chief in Madison.
Never fired their weapons.
That is correct.
I don't know if it's a male or female, but the police department did not fire their weapons.
Thank you.
Never fired their weapons.
That is correct.
Yeah, that could have just been early.
So we'll wait.
Look, you're right, Mayor.
We don't want to get ahead of the reports here.
We're close to Milwaukee.
That's right.
Madison is the state capital, home of the University of Wisconsin.
Second biggest city?
I would say probably the second biggest city in the state.
Not that the politics matter, but it's a very liberal city, home of the University of Wisconsin, as well as the state capital.
And about an hour and some change from Milwaukee.
It's also heavily...
Democratic, like Milwaukee, and the rest of the state is pretty much Republican, right?
Well, Milwaukee and Madison would be the liberal Democrat strongholds, and the rest of the state is pretty Republican, similar to places like Michigan, right, where Detroit and Ann Arbor...
I spent a lot of time investigating polling places in Madison, I remember.
You did?
And you were friends with the great Tommy Thompson.
Tommy Thompson rived against me when I ran for president and endorsed me.
And I loved Governor Tommy Thompson as a kid for some reason, right?
I liked this guy from Wisconsin.
Tommy Thompson is someone that I stole something from.
Illegally, illegally.
I don't do illegal things like the Democrats say I do.
Well, you took his welfare-to-work program and took it from a Midwestern state and applied it to the largest city in the world.
He says, yeah, I did it in Wisconsin, but he did it.
A place bigger than a country.
What it was, it was when welfare was...
Welfare is much worse now.
You should know that.
We have much higher levels of dependency now than we did then.
But people like me and Tommy Thompson and any number of Republicans would have believed then we were at a level of dependency that really makes us no different than a socialist state.
In New York, for example...
One out of every eight people was on welfare.
And we had 1.2 million people on welfare.
And all predictions were we were going to go to 1.5.
We had a population of 8.1.
And it was becoming a disaster.
You could foresee what happened.
So...
When I became mayor, I spent a lot of time studying all the different issues, and I met with Tommy Thompson, who was carrying out this wonderful program in Wisconsin in which he was moving people, not just off welfare, but he was using the state to help find jobs for them.
State jobs as a last resort, private jobs as the optimum.
I said, do you mind if I copy it?
And he warned me, as did some others about the broken windows theory, which had been used in other places.
It might not work in New York.
Nine out of ten of my advisors said it won't work in New York too big and too corrupt.
Our welfare system is too corrupt.
I said, well, I tell you what, we'll fix it first and then we'll put it in.
So it turned out that we had any number of people on welfare, two, three, four, five, and six times.
When I say any number, the district attorney brought a case against 70. Probably it was more in the thousands, but he picked out 70 really terrible violators, including people who work for our police department.
The other district attorneys did...
That's when we had district attorneys who prosecuted criminals, not people running for president to try to stop them, like this criminal that we have as a DA now, Bragg.
And so I said, I'm just going to try it.
And we did a lot of research and we found out there's a New York law that requires people on welfare to work.
Part-time if they can't get a job themselves.
So we tried to help get a job, but if they didn't, they couldn't get their welfare unless they came in and reported for work for the New York City Department of Education, Sanitation, Parks.
Eventually we had 40,000 people working for the City of New York in the welfare program.
They did actually good work.
They kept the city clean.
They kept the city much better organized.
They learned job skills.
And the single most important thing that I did for them was I rebuilt the work ethic for them.
Many of these people didn't know what the work ethic was.
They had grown up in the second or third generation of not seeing anybody in their family work.
So you go reflect on where you learned the work ethic.
They never learned it.
And if you give it to them and they embrace it, they can take care of themselves eventually, in most cases, rather than most cases just going right to the government.
And end result, we went from 1.2 million people on welfare to 500,000, and at least 500,000 of them had jobs, and about 100 or 200,000 Went to New Jersey, I guess.
They went somewhere, but they weren't in New York anymore.
And that's what's missing now.
And it was Tommy's program that was the genesis of it.
And even his director, we took from him after a while, who did it for us.
So we're going to come back and we're going to have a guest.
A special guest who can fill us in on The drone situation and then...
The completely confusing drone situation and also on the Jeopardy that's now being created for people in the insurance industry.
That's right.
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Did they do the coffee ad yet, Ted?
We still got to get the coffee ad going there.
This is the...
This is the iced coffee.
That's right.
I'm telling you, it's different.
We've got to get some to Dan here.
It's good, but we'll talk about the coffee in a little while.
Dan, tell us your background.
We're going to talk about two very, very dominating subjects.
The drones.
And this backlash that's occurred with the people in the insurance, at the higher levels of the insurance industry.
So you have a background in security.
Yeah, I have two security consulting firms.
One is called Stratoscope, and we specialize in event security, public-facing events.
And the other is called Ingressotech, where we provide the latest in weapons detection systems to the event industry.
So between the two, we do about over 200 events a year.
And you obviously try to make them as safe as possible.
That's our job.
And they range.
And probably if they come to you, there is a problem, some problem with them.
They're not going to come to you for just a nice little safe group of T's or something.
Right.
But it's primarily preventative, right?
Let's be strategic about making sure that our attendees, our speakers, our talent, our guests are all safe.
So now let's start with the drones.
So going back a month, 3,000 or so drones.
Some of them identified by Coast Guard, some of them identified by military, some of them identified by law enforcement.
So you can't attribute this to a bunch of hysterical civilians that are just frightened.
Then we had a smaller incident like this a year ago Where there were a bunch of drones.
I don't remember if it was in North Carolina, Virginia, maybe Virginia.
So what's your best analysis of what's going on since the White House?
Number one, won't tell us.
And number two, is absolutely lying to us.
Well, the concern is that they're not telling us.
These drones aren't your, you know, go down to Best Buy and buy a drone and start flying around as a hobby.
These are big drones.
And it's a real risk in our country Because without national special event security, like a Tier 1 inauguration or Super Bowl, or a Tier 2, there's nothing that local law enforcement can do about these drones because of the FCC law that says I can't interrupt the communication between them.
We don't have any.
I mean, I probably had the biggest, or maybe Los Angeles, the biggest air...
Police force, imagine we had like 18 helicopters in one plane.
We're not ready for war with 18 helicopters in one plane.
We can do emergency evacuations.
I'm not even sure the helicopters would be able to go up there and shoot them down.
Well, and the real risk here is that weaponized drones are real.
So this is not an if thing.
This is a when.
And so as a country, we have to be better prepared to be able to Mitigate this threat, especially around public-facing events.
We've had these instances where your dual public flies their drone to a stadium.
That local law enforcement can't stop that.
They can't take the drone down.
They can try and find the operator, and they can try and stop the operator from flying the drone.
But legally, they can't take the drone down.
They can't do it legally.
Legally, because of the FCC law.
Can that be overruled by a president, a governor, a mayor?
Yeah, there's...
On an emergency, some kind of emergency declaration?
My understanding of the legislation is the federal authorities can take the drone down.
We ran all the security for the Formula One in Las Vegas a year ago.
Right.
And we had Customs and Border Patrol there.
They can take a drone down.
But Metro PD in Las Vegas can't.
Right.
NYPD. Some guy shot one down today, I think, got arrested.
Yeah, and he's going to get...
Go to jail.
He's going to get a big fine.
Yeah, they'll probably have a little sympathy for him, maybe.
We'll see.
It'll depend on who the judge is.
Steve, will you get the board ready so we can look at some of the drones?
And I'm going to need to put one of these things in.
So...
Is the best we can do right now the speculation that Congressman Van Drew has drawn?
That this is maybe China, maybe Iran doing a sort of teasing or even maybe surveillance situation.
Kind of poke us and see how we react.
Well, what's alarming about it is, I don't know which sheriff's department it was in New Jersey, but they put their drone up.
And these drones that are being reported are so sophisticated that the New Jersey Sheriff's Department drone could not keep up with it, couldn't find out much about it because these drones were able to evade.
Yeah, they're able to go dark.
They're able to go dark.
I mean, this is a typical night about a week ago, and you can see You can see they're not airplanes.
My goodness, airplanes aren't square.
Apparently, they've been reported as six to eight feet in diameter.
That's a big drone.
Yeah, this is not a particularly good picture.
It's the best we have.
I'm sure they have much better, higher-definition pictures than that.
These are, without any doubt, drones.
It's concerning that they're not telling us what's going on.
It sure is.
I mean, I don't...
What...
What would you speculate is the reason that they wouldn't tell us what's going on?
I mean, you're the expert in government and what they want to tell us and not tell us.
But, you know, is this a U.S. operation?
Or is this a, you know, our counter-surveillance?
Or is this a surveillance operation from, you know, another country?
Because it's a U.S. naval base.
So why?
Yes, they went over a base.
This is the base here.
They went over Ticatini Arsenal, which has a tremendous amount of ammunition, guns.
Some reports said it has 90% of the U.S. latility, which doesn't make sense to me.
It must mean in some We couldn't possibly have 90% of our weapons in one place.
I wouldn't think so.
Unless Biden is really as stupid as I think.
But it must mean in some category.
Yeah.
But in any event, they actually do do defensive drone work here.
They have a contract with a company to develop a defensive drone, which is pretty sophisticated.
Right.
So it's a little bit of a coincidence.
That a bunch of drones have flown over a place that's building drones to shoot down drones.
But we have to, right?
Because we've got the ability to take drones down.
Reportedly, some of those abilities that we would normally deploy, that Customs Border Patrol would deploy, are not able to do it with these drones.
Now, right in here is the MetLife Stadium.
Right.
The only thing about that is there are only one or two giant jet games left, if any, and nobody's going.
So it's just a team that's in jeopardy.
And as you can see, as we move down here, where there are a significant number of drones right near the coast, there's a Naval Weapons Station Earl.
There's the famous Fort Dix, which is now called Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst.
And then there's a Coast Guard station.
The Coast Guard has done 50 or 70 of the sightings themselves.
So these are professional people who have done the sightings.
Well, on top of that, we're in the midst of the NFL season and NFL playoffs.
We have stadiums, maybe not like these, The stadiums with 70-80,000 people in it.
Well, look at the one for the Army-Navy game, which is just, you know, what, 100 miles out of this.
Right.
So if we have an incident at one of these events, you know, there's opportunity for real loss here.
Wow.
High risk.
The strangest thing, and I guess it's been pretty typical throughout, the strangest thing is how the government Why don't they tell us something?
Even to say, this is, at this point, a classified situation, and we'll let you know as soon as we can.
You would think they'd come out with something.
Or something that says, we have it under control, which is probably not true.
Right.
We have it under control, and we'll let you know as soon as we appropriately can do that.
You would think they would come out with a statement like that.
Yeah.
We know what this is.
We're working with whoever is flying these drones, whatever it is.
But you're not testing over a populated area like New Jersey.
I don't see why we would do this.
We would send out a few drones to do surveillance.
You'd be out in the desert testing.
Yeah.
And even if...
I don't know why we have to do aerial surveillance of our facilities.
But in any event, I don't think this is us.
I don't see why we would create this havoc.
Yeah.
It would seem to me if it was...
All we have to say is we're doing a testing mission.
Even if we're looking for something in particular, we don't have to say that.
But in any event, we'll eventually find out the day after Trump gets in.
But the other big point on this is we've been, the industry, the NFL, stadiums, the sport and entertainment industry, has been working with lawmakers to change this FCC law.
So that local law enforcement can act and mitigate this possibility.
That's good.
I think that's part of what's going to happen in general, speaking of security, in the Trump administration.
You see that Tom Holman is going to use the sheriffs to round up the illegals.
That's very, very smart.
All my life in law enforcement, I've been on the federal side except when I was mayor.
But I've always been a clear advocate of local law enforcement.
There are 15,000 FBI agents.
When I was mayor, there were 41,000 New York City police officers.
Now, unfortunately, with the defunding of the police, which happened in New York, a billion dollars defunding, there were only 35,000.
But that's still much larger than the FBI, much larger than the Secret Service.
Now we put all the uniformed police together, we're getting to a million.
That's a lot of people that can be utilized.
And the sheriffs, I know a lot of them and have talked to them about, they're enormously excited about this.
This is a great new, you know how law enforcement people are.
They have high morale.
They'll do a good job.
Of course they will.
And the federal government will be able to deal with investigations.
So now let's get to the second one was the extraordinarily cold-blooded killing Of Mr. Brian Thompson, right?
6.45 in the morning, right in the middle of Manhattan, headed to the Hilton Hotel for a board or a similar kind of meeting.
This guy pops out of nowhere, shoots and kills him, and we find out he comes from a very rich family.
He has these very...
Very left-wing and very anti-business, anti-capitalism views on the industry.
And the most frightening thing of all, we get a chorus of people who partially agree with him.
Or they do the thing that it's wrong to kill people.
However, we have to understand it.
Which is the same thing as saying, it's okay, kill them.
We have to understand it because they deny claims.
Well, of course they deny claims.
Because one of the major problems that the industry has is there are an enormously high record level of false claims.
Also, they deny claims incorrectly.
It's like when they started with that Me Too movement, all the women were telling the truth.
Well, the simple fact is half of them were, half of them weren't, and it's a societal problem.
Well, this one is very disturbing, obviously, what happened.
It's a tragedy, and we shouldn't sensationalize this individual.
A man lost his life going to a public event.
We have no idea if he did a single thing wrong.
It doesn't seem to be tied to any specific incident that he was about.
Just that his company may have denied a claim that he would have no idea of.
Well, he's going to a shareholder meeting.
This is a public event.
Event security is critical, and it doesn't matter the size of the event, right?
This is probably a couple thousand person shareholder event happening at the Hilton.
This individual socially engineered that space, the likely doors, And this executive didn't have the right support around him.
The event security team did not have a plan for how to get this executive safely to and from that event.
Ken, wouldn't it if there was a fair degree of notice or suspicion?
Yeah, you want to base things on risk and threat.
But in today's world, your traditional risk assessment is kind of out the window.
Turns out that this company had threats, right?
They had protesters.
They had two major protests in the summer that became quite violent.
Yeah, and it's in Minneton.
And they carried around a casket in one of them, which gets to be kind of suggestive, right?
So there's enough, now that we know more about this, there was enough to say that this executive should have had support around him, probably shouldn't have been coming in the front door.
The event itself, a shareholders meeting, is enough public scrutiny to say you need a strategic event security plan.
You can't just say, I'm going to have 2,000 people on the second or third floor of the Hilton and not have a proper security posture around it.
That posture, we spoke on one of your previous shows, today's event security professionals looking at more than the perimeter that they're defending.
They're having to look at outside of that perimeter because It might very well have been some kind of an old-fashioned perimeter or internal security for the event that the Hilton would require.
But a lot of them wouldn't think of, we've got to protect the executives, except for the fact that they were a little different than the ordinary companies.
Most companies don't have a demonstration like that.
You would have thought the day that happened, somebody would have said, we've got to step And you've had...
This is your business.
You know that happens.
Right.
Sometimes these things get...
You get a call and they say, we come take a look and do a security assessment.
We just had this incident.
We got to step up our security.
And it's surprising they didn't do that.
Well, a lot of...
See what we're finding out...
Well, we've known, but it's coming to more light.
There's a lot of C-suite that don't want that level of protection.
I know.
I don't want to walk around with a bodyguard, etc.
That's fine.
Until you're going to a public-facing event.
Then you have to have...
I don't need a SWAT team to get you from your hotel to a back-of-house entrance and up to the event space.
But I do need a plan.
Yeah.
One guy walking a little behind him.
Might very well have...
Because he waited until...
It was in between 52nd and 53rd on 6th Avenue.
Which, of course, is Avenue of the Americas.
But since it was 6th Avenue 60 years ago, I still call it 6th Avenue.
So, midway through the block, he must have come out from in between a car.
Yeah, he was hiding behind the car.
And when...
The guy passed him.
He came in immediately and shot him in the back.
Correct.
We're playing the video here.
And the guy ran, and then his gun jams.
He got a little delay.
Just a graphic warning.
Some may find this disturbing.
We have the video here.
This is the shooting on 6th Avenue.
That's going to restart here in a second.
We're going to see him come into the shot.
That's him running away.
Here he is.
Yeah, that's it right there.
Notice that guy run away.
That was not Daniel Penning.
The point here is, even if he had a detail with him, you know, we provide executive support to the talent or the executives that are coming to our events.
You know, if the guy wasn't writing back right behind him, you know, You're not stopping that first shot.
You're probably stopping the second and third.
And we don't know which one killed him, or at least I don't.
Right.
Because now it jams, and then he goes in closer.
Notice how calmly he does that, too.
Shoots him, and now he actually rather expertly fixes the gun, doesn't get panicked.
Well, he racks it on every shot.
Yeah.
And then it jams.
But look how slowly he's walking, and deliberately.
And then he gets there, and then he takes it off.
He starts to run.
But in reality, Mr. Thompson should have been escorted, and he should have been escorted to a back-of-house location, not a public face.
And there should have been people around him.
And even if they got off the first shot, they would have downed him after.
And if you had presence outside that door, uniformed officer, trained people.
He was surveilling him because he had been up at the event.
About a half hour before.
He went up to the place that Thompson was going to go.
Maybe he was thinking of shooting him there at first.
And he probably knew he didn't have security.
Right.
And not having the right personnel around the event.
This guy sticks out like a sore thumb.
He doesn't look like a healthcare investor.
No, I immediately looked at that, Ted will tell you, because most of my experience are mafia hits.
Right.
And I said, this guy is no professional hitman.
No.
First of all, you don't wear a big knapsack that you can identify.
Second, if you do, you get rid of it immediately.
Because that's what made it easy to spot him in the photographs.
You see the knapsack running.
You don't see him.
You see the knapsack running.
So if they had a plan in place with teams like ours, He would have come up there early in the morning and someone would have said, hey, this guy looks out of place.
We would have identified him.
He may have been doing it for a couple of days.
Correct.
Sounds like he was in the city for 10 days.
I mean, he may have actually traced his steps the morning before.
Right.
Not found an opportune time to do it.
I think he says something in his manifesto about that.
Right.
So this is not a trained individual, but he socially engineered this.
He figured out that the investor shareholders- He does know how to handle a gun.
He clearly did.
Yeah.
But he figured out all the details.
He figured out timing.
He's hiding behind this car.
If you had the right security posture around this event, they would have noticed that.
They would have deterred him from taking this action.
He probably would have said, not today.
If the event had the right posture around it, the right professionals around.
And this isn't just about adding NYPD. So Hinckley, who shot President Reagan, attempted twice to kill Jimmy Carter.
He really wasn't after Reagan.
He was after a president to impress Jody Foster.
And at the end of Carter's term, he twice attempted to try to get into the crowd and couldn't.
And then finally, he succeeded with Reagan.
But, I mean, this guy was probably going to do this until he accomplished what he wanted to accomplish.
This one could have been a false alarm also.
For sure.
Wait for the next one.
Exactly.
And so any of these public events, regardless of size, has to have the right security professionals involved, right?
And ensure that, think about him going up to the event space.
Are we screening everybody that's going into the shareholders meeting to make sure that weapon doesn't come in?
We need to be here.
Well, he got up there.
Now, had he left the weapon downstairs or not, we don't know that.
But he got up there earlier.
He did, and he, reportedly, he went back down to the street.
Maybe he felt like better getaway opportunity, whatever, less risk for himself.
He had a cup of coffee.
Starbucks.
With a big smile on his face.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the problem with the traditional risk assessment.
We're not factoring in The lone wolf that can take action like this.
Hard to write, though.
It is.
It's hard.
But that's why we have to, like, put the right...
Although I do say, you know, sometimes I feel like these incidents are so much easier to analyze after the fact.
Of course.
At the same time, it's a hard fact to avoid that you had two major demonstrations in which they would sort of suggest they wanted to kill you with a cough.
They were actually yelling about killing them.
They clearly had an axe to grind against this company.
And, you know, this denial rate, all this stuff that we're learning about, you know, I'm not a healthcare professional, but clearly there was cause for concern.
United Healthcare could have seen this coming, and their event team that put this event on should have had a better presence of professionals that were responsible for ensuring the safety of all the attendees.
Right.
Right?
I mean, look, Mr. Thompson lost his life, but this guy could have been In that room.
And shot up the whole room.
And shot up the whole room, right?
Yeah, he could have been a different kind of maniac.
In today's world, we've just got to have the right security posture around all events.
It's a shame.
The other thing that's a shame is, do you have a view on why some of the public is sympathizing with the shooter?
And angry at the...
I mean, okay, insurance companies might deny claims, but you can't escape the fact that they also deal with the problem of extraordinary amount of false claims.
It's like looking for the needle in a haystack.
People that are supporting the individual that took this heinous act is dead wrong, right?
We can't support that thinking.
Are there ways to address situations with companies that are legal and that aren't going to take somebody's life?
Of course there are.
Activist shareholders.
There's a number of ways to do this.
Not this way.
This is a crime.
And people that support that crime, they're wrong.
Yeah.
And they're simplifying an enormously complex situation that has other remedies.
And also, in many cases, remedies that...
For the wrong reasons, like class action lawsuits.
Sure.
The people bring the class action lawsuits, they ultimately get nothing for their injury and the lawyers get all the money.
So, yeah, they prove that the company acted incorrectly, but they get $2,000 and the lawyers get $20 million.
Nobody wants to fix that.
Right, right.
I mean, look, there's some good class action lawsuits that have taken place.
There are a lot of frivolous.
There are.
Right.
And, you know, drives up to the businessman's cost of doing business.
And my profession is filled with crooks.
Sorry.
Well, at least you're recovering a tournament.
Right.
We will be right back, unless Ted has a few questions.
I just have a question for Dan, and you're paid a lot to give this sort of advice, but generally speaking, what is your advice to CEOs, maybe individuals who...
You know, may face these sorts of threats.
Like you said, it's not always right there on top of mind, but these are things that these individuals should be constantly thinking about.
What is your general advice to these folks?
I think every CEO, C-suite, needs to look at their own profiles.
We've got a client whose chief marketing officer has a huge following.
And so that's an individual that you have to look at what's happening with them online, what's being said, and accept the fact that you might have to have a professional around you to provide support.
It doesn't mean that I've got to be gunned up and look like a really SEAL team member, but making sure you have plans to get you from point A to point B, especially at public facing events.
That's right.
Well, thank you, Dan.
What an insightful conversation.
Dan does great work.
I mean, couldn't have expected a better explanation of that.
Thanks, Dan.
We'll give everyone info on how to get a hold of Dan should you need his services.
Do you have a website or something you can rattle off here and then we'll share with our audience.
www.stratoscope.com.
That's right.
Or ingressotech.com.
And we've got both those names right up there.
They've been on the screen.
So reach out to Dan.
This is someone you'll want to go to.
You probably do need his help.
And we'll be right back.
Thanks, Ted.
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This is Rudy Giuliani back with you on the America's Mayor 1st.
We are working on reorganizing our shows, not the time, but sort of what we cover.
And one of the things that I want to do on the show is I'm going to try it now real quick.
I have this real feeling of obligation that I think exists with maybe eight or ten people like Steve Bannon and others that, and maybe it's having gone through the 2020 suppression of probably the most relevant information Americans needed to decide an election of president, a computer that proves 50 crimes.
Proves it in a way that you don't even have to try them.
You can be a disc jockey.
You just play the computer.
And it was covered up for 16 months.
And I was accused of being a Russian agent.
And so was President Trump and our associates.
So because of that, and because I see so many things you're deprived of.
Honestly, no matter how many times I've put it on, The vast majority of Americans have no idea that Hunter Biden admitted in his own words that his father got money.
So when they say there's no evidence that Joe Biden got money, there's the best evidence in the world for it.
It's called an admission.
I'll even get technical for you.
It's admissible as an exception to the hearsay rule at any trial.
And it's often charged to a jury as some of the most powerful kind of evidence.
The admission was he told his daughter that for 30 years he gave half his salary to his father.
Since his salary from everything you see in the hard drive was from foreign countries seeking influence, of course it completes the circle, doesn't it?
It makes the obvious inference provable.
Now, you say, well, he could have been lying.
But that doesn't deprive something of being evidence that he could have been lying.
If he could have been lying deprive something of being evidence, there'd never be any evidence.
Anybody could be lying.
When Sammy the Bull said that he was with John Gotti for 17 murders, he could have been lying.
But that didn't deprive it of its being evidence.
And the strongest kind of evidence, evidence from a co-conspirator.
So what I just put you through has been available for three and a half years.
And even the House committee, for fear that they'll incriminate the president too much, deprive you of that information.
Or we could give you the information about Hunter admitting that he was a danger to the minor children.
And I went so far as to do a second version of the hard drive to take the child pornography off, because I don't want to in any way emphasize that.
But I sure as hell don't want to see them get away with it.
That's a horrible thing, and they're getting away with it.
So what I want to do is I want to make sure you have the information that you need So you can vote properly, make decisions properly, and be a properly informed American, and you can fight off the brainwashing, which is severe, particularly coming from our schools and from our media.
So here's information you may not get elsewhere.
Remember, over the last two years, Ted and I have been telling you that this particular group of illegal immigrants are disproportionately criminals.
And the New York Times and the left-wing fools have been saying there are more criminals among Native Americans or citizens of America than immigrants.
Well, that's about as old as my grandfather.
I shouldn't say that.
That was true when I was a U.S. attorney.
We had 400,000 illegals in New York.
They committed crimes.
The people in New York committed crimes at a higher rate.
There's a different group of immigrants, totally different.
These are immigrants who came in, invited to come in by Joe Biden when he told them the surge to the border.
They've come in in numbers that are unprecedented.
More of them came in during this period than in all of Ellis Island.
And Ellis Island is in it for 60 years.
Ellis Island took in 12 million people.
We just took in 15. Ellis Island did it over 60 years.
We did it in three and a half.
Ellis Island carefully vetted everyone who came in.
We didn't vet these people at all.
What that does is it tends to draw more criminals.
Because now the criminal elements who have a desire to get people into the United States now have no obstacle at all.
And they know it's going to stop at some point.
So they take advantage of this opportunity to get as many in here as possible.
If China didn't take advantage of this to get an unprecedented number of spies in this country, we've got nothing to worry about.
China is so stupid, there'll never be an adversary.
If the Mexican cartels didn't take advantage of this in order to bring fentanyl in, Over the parts of the border that aren't observed at all.
So the reality is, we honestly have no idea how many people came in.
We can count 12 to 15 million.
There are a whole bunch we never saw.
And the ones we never saw are the most dangerous.
Because those are the ones who go to the cartels and say, like the Chinese who have been working with them for 20 years, we've got a big shipment.
There's $2 million in it for you.
Nobody can see this.
So they find a place between El Paso and someplace else that they have full control of because we don't have...
We don't secure the border points.
We're not going to secure the other places.
Probably if they were coming in, we'd help them carry the fentanyl in.
Our border patrol has been turned into Rockefeller City escorts.
They're not a border patrol.
It's going to change with Holman, believe me.
I think, have you watched him?
That's real.
I work with him.
It is real.
Remember when we started telling you they were bringing gangs in?
This is the most remarkable development of an organized crime group I've ever seen.
Trans-Diragua from Venezuela was virtually not existent in the United States when Donald Trump left the presidency.
They had a little presence in Los Angeles prisons, none in New York.
They now are located in 12 different states.
Including big presence in New York, big presence in Los Angeles.
But they also like to have small outposts where they can hide things.
Remember, they showed up in Aurora, Colorado.
And Governor Feliz Navidad denied it.
And the mayor of Denver, who's pretty close to a criminal, denied it.
He's the one who's going to stand at the gates of the city.
By the way, Denver doesn't have gates, but he's going to stand at the gates of the city.
He's going to stop Tom Holman from coming in.
Feliz Navidad.
That's a no-brainer.
Maybe he'll get Governor Feliz Navidad to come in and back him up.
I think Holman could take both of them all by himself without the Border Patrol.
Holman says, basically, he did a...
This is very, very calm.
I guess we'll have to arrest him.
Yeah.
I guess we'll have to arrest him.
So now they've discovered a group of Tren Diaragua in North Dakota.
I really think the mafia knew where North Dakota was.
North Dakota.
What's that map?
Yeah, we got a map here.
And they brought in...
They brought drugs in.
They got busted last month for ripping off, for basically a robbery of a, they call it a West Fargo, of $100,000.
And the city was only $40,000.
And the police chief told the truth.
He's probably a Republican.
Because the Democrat police chiefs, they're lying and saying it's not a problem.
Meanwhile, six counties in the state of Colorado are suing the governor.
And they're suing the mayor of Denver for creating a sanctuary city.
And this guy's name, just in case you run across him, because if we're not careful, they'll let him out.
And they go back and forth.
They go back and forth to New York.
His name is Henry Theis.
He's 25. He came in illegally a year ago.
That's him right there.
So he robbed a bank in West Fargo, over $24,000.
Stolen.
This makes officially North Dakota the 17th state where we know that members are present.
That's just officially.
They crossed in El Paso when that big group was coming in at El Paso.
Mayor, if they're in North Dakota, that means they're in every state from the southern border up to North Dakota, correct?
I mean, come on.
South Dakota.
If they're in North Dakota, that means they're in South Dakota.
It took the Mexican cartels 20 years to develop that way.
What they've done under the Biden administration.
Of course, you know, they have the benefit of making a lot more money.
You should know that Israel is taking advantage of Biden not paying attention by bombing the hell out of Syria.
Thank you, Israel, for doing our work.
All those weapons there really are Iranian weapons.
They're also used to kill Americans.
So really, BB should be paid because to some extent, Biden has subcontracted the presidency to him.
That's right.
You should also know that absolutely nothing that Israel achieved would have been achieved if Biden had had his way.
Biden advised Bibi right after the attack of October 7th to show restraint.
Yeah, nuts!
And he began talking about a ceasefire before Israel fired.
Had Israel not gone in and decimated Hamas, decimated the leadership of Hezbollah, and actually shown that it can attack Iran, none of the things that have happened in what exposes Iran really as Very, very weak would have happened.
Now, Demented is taking advantage of it, but he advised exactly the opposite.
There's a great article in the Wall Street Journal that I want you to read because it makes the point that I make to you all the time, which is that the New York City Judicial System Particularly in Manhattan, is completely crooked.
It's dishonest and crooked.
New York City now ranks number two on the American Tort Reform Foundation's annual list of judicial hellholes.
Excessive legal costs hit an eye-popping $89 billion last year for pain and suffering.
In cases where in most of America, according to the report, they would be laughed out of court.
This is attributed to the enormous donations that the trial lawyers make, mostly to Democrats, but also to selective Republicans so they can buy them out.
They have some examples of businesses that have been destroyed by them.
And then they have some examples of the massive ambulance chasing industry we have in New York that combines crooked lawyers, crooked doctors, Who make massive claims against private businesses and the city of New York.
It's very hard to put a percentage on it, but a very appreciable percentage of the cases in our courts are fraudulent.
And it leads to a court that's fraudulent.
Because remember, every single New York Supreme Court justice is put there by a political hack.
He is named or she is named by the county leader of the Democrat Party.
They make believe they're elected, but like Angamoran, who handled the case against Trump, he was elected three times.
He just never had an opponent in the dictatorship of New York.
This has been going on since Boss Tweed, and just to make that clear, we have a courthouse named after him.
Crazy.
The Biden pardons need really further analysis.
But, I mean, he's basically...
He was basically pardoning fraudsters, swindlers, and embezzlers like himself.
He must have seen kindred spirits.
I mean, he pardoned a group in Dixon, Illinois, in that little town where they built investors of $665 million.
They all got pardoned.
You can go on and on.
One swindling situation after another.
I believe, and we'll see if I'm right, that he did that.
Those are the most pardons any president gave in one day.
And he did very carefully give them to people that we wouldn't know about.
You've got to go study these cases.
They do include pedophiles.
He considers pedophilia a non-violent crime.
That could be a family problem.
I know of what I speak because I've seen all the pictures.
That could be a family problem.
Hardening pedophilia?
Isn't it?
Last time I checked, isn't it an incurable lifetime illness?
You're supposed to pardon them because they're not going to do it again, jackass.
You don't think your son's going to take drugs again?
I wonder, Ted, you know, I'm sure the Secret Service worked really, really hard on trying to figure out who put the cocaine in the locker in the White House.
It's very hard to figure out who might be the chief suspect there.
I can't think of anyone.
Is there a guy that goes into the White House who's been in drug rehabilitation about 20 times and bounced out?
No name comes to mind.
I'm thinking any family member of any of the office holders there?
Any degenerate drug addict in any of those families?
Huh.
Nothing comes to mind.
Yeah.
Secret Service came to the same conclusion.
Quite something.
The other one that gets me that I mentioned yesterday, Friday, and I went to the golf course yesterday, and I didn't get a chance to go over to that hole because I spent some time with the president on the back nine.
I didn't go to Hole 6, but...
We've been to the outside of it.
The report that came out on Friday said that the Secret Service agent, who up until now I would regard as a hero, and I will still regard him as a hero, because Roth was in the bushes behind a fence with a gun pointing in.
So the Secret Service agent, thank God, was able to see something that, even under the best of circumstances, he might have missed.
But here's the strange thing, and I think the report may be wrong, because I know that area, like, back of my hand.
They say he was within five feet.
Secret Service agent was within five feet of the shooter, and he shot six times and missed it.
Now, I find that extraordinarily hard to believe, unless the Secret Service agent is partially blind.
Because I'm within about four feet of Ted, and I'm okay shot.
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't miss him.
You gotta try to miss.
From here, you gotta try to miss.
Yeah, I'd have to go like that.
Yeah.
He's basically there.
Yeah.
You have to try to miss.
Now, there is the possibility he was hidden by the bushes.
And I wanted to go back yesterday.
I felt a little embarrassed saying, Mr. President, excuse me, I'm going to go look at the place where you were almost killed.
That's the opening right there.
You know, that's been a sore point since 2016. We should have talked to our guest about that.
That's caused by not having perimeter security.
Ah, Dan would have been good on that.
That guy would have been caught with perimeter security.
That's right.
So, we're going to be back with a couple of guests, and we'll see where the conversation takes us.
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We got some two very special guests.
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Coming back, we got Ashley Wilson.
Superstar, nurse extraordinaire, and good friend of the show.
Also known as the MAGA meme queen.
Which I gotta show you some of her memes.
Yeah, I saw some of her memes.
They're fabulous.
And joining us this evening with our friend Ashley is another very special guest.
We have Dr. Lillian Glass.
One of her books.
She's a body language expert.
The body language expert.
Don't be trying to lie around Dr. Glass.
First of all, doctor, there's so many things I want to ask you.
First of all, How did you get started doing this?
And give us a couple of the applications of it, what you do with it.
That's a great question.
So this will get people kind of relevant to it.
I started out basically as speech pathologist, teaching people how to communicate.
I worked with actors and actresses, getting their body language ready for movie roles, like Dustin Houghton and Pertussi.
Taught them how to sound like a woman.
Worked with so many celebrities.
And then I started doing this in the media with politics and with criminal cases.
And now one of the things I do is I work with attorneys as an expert witness.
And I help them analyze deposition tapes as well as surveillance tapes uh we had kind of an interesting case that happened recently where so you look at somebody during a deposition uh-huh and you'll say telling the truth not telling the truth that's part of it or uh yeah telling the truth but but don't are aren't people different in the way they I mean,
not everybody does the same thing.
Well, there are many tells that you can determine.
And you look at consistency.
And sometimes, you know, there's an instinct.
Body language study is both an art and a science.
So you have to have the science of it, but there's also an art to feeling it.
And some of the applications are, I do it a lot in the media.
They ask me what's going on in the election, for example.
I did this during the debate.
Yes, I did.
I wish we had you during the debate.
I did it Newsweek.
I did it at a news station.
The debate with Camel, where she made all the faces.
Oh, that was amazing.
She made so many faces.
You're basically told, I did many, many debates, including presidential debates, and I had a great teacher.
And you're basically told not to give away.
And you're also told not to act up, because people really dislike it.
If I'm debating you, and you say something, and I'm not Something will go like that.
You do that too often and people start thinking you're a baby, you're immature.
Right.
But now people are more authentic.
They really feel things.
And that's what Trump did so well.
He was so authentic when he communicated.
Well, that's his piece and mine.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's a plus.
I think it's a plus too.
But I mean, with the people who love him, but the people who don't, he says the things that nobody else says.
Yeah.
But that's great.
I think neat to be said.
Absolutely.
Their version of it is, he's insensitive.
But you looked at that debate, and there was no contest here, because you saw somebody that was professional, that was fluid in the way he communicated, and somebody who just couldn't speak.
Is it fair for me to ask you?
What is the most consistent thing somebody does when they're lying?
Yes.
A lot of times they'll lick their lips.
They'll blink a lot.
They'll touch their nose.
They'll scratch.
Because an autonomic nervous system takes over.
And so what happens is your body doesn't lie.
And it really does leak out.
So even though you think you've got it all together, you don't because things come out.
Do you...
I believe that lie detector tests largely work.
Well, you know, I was pitted in so many talk shows.
I've been pitted against reality shows, talk shows, pitted against this device.
And it comes out the same.
Because basically, you can tell more just by looking at a person.
The lie detector just tells certain things.
Breathing.
It tells just certain aspects.
But what I look at is the...
Content of what somebody says, the tone of their voice.
I look at the facial language as well as the body language.
So when you look at those four components, you have the whole picture.
I use lie detectives a fair amount, one of the prosecutors, and the FBI It uses them much more than the police department.
And I have seen them fooled.
I've seen pathological liars.
Yes.
In fact, with some of the good examiners, they'll say, I can't test this guy.
They'll go through about 15 minutes and they'll say, I can't test him because he doesn't recognize he's lying.
Exactly.
Because you're sociopaths.
Probably in some ways almost schizophrenic.
He's in another world.
Exactly.
He thinks when he says I didn't kill his wife that somebody else did it.
That's right.
And that's why you have to look at all aspects.
You have to look at the body language.
You have to look at the facial expression, the skin tone, what's going on, the breathing, everything.
You have to look at what they say, how they say it.
Do Do they repeat words?
Do they stutter?
Do they stammer?
That's very, very important.
See, what I would have loved to have you for when I tried cases was two things.
First, watching the jury.
Oh yeah, that's what I do.
And telling me who I should, when I finally do the summation, I always, generally in public speaking, I was taught to always talk to somebody.
Right.
Even if it's an audience of 100,000, you're talking to somebody.
Right.
Never should talk to 100,000.
But second, when you give a summation, by that time, you want to know who are the jurors I have to work on.
You want to have in your mind, I got two or three on my side.
I don't want to ignore them.
I want to make sure they're there.
But I also have three that are doubters, and I've got to talk to them.
Exactly.
I would love to have had you as an expert.
Well, I would have loved to have been.
I'm sure you've done that.
Yes.
I work a lot with jury selection.
So do you stay?
Yes.
So you watch the jury during the trial?
Yes, I do.
Jury, yes.
And then also help the attorney determine who's telling the truth or not.
Of course, examination.
Absolutely.
Like what's happening.
Here's where I wouldn't need you.
If the defendant were a politician, he's lying.
Well, sometimes.
They are the easiest people to cross-examine.
They're the easiest people to cross-examine anybody I've ever cross-examined, including organized criminals.
Because they become very, very sloppy.
They lie for a living.
And they never get challenged.
Now they're in court with a judge and a lawyer who has the prior statements.
And they just make up a new statement.
And you say, did you on such and such a day say that?
And they say, yes.
And you just keep doing that to them and they fall apart because nobody ever challenges them.
They live in a world where lying is almost the norm.
Exactly.
And when you're looking at lying, the more you...
What does a guy do when he lies?
Because he lies all the time.
Oh, just when he opens his mouth.
You do.
And he stammers a lot.
And that is, you know that it's coming.
And then he also, you know, he'll look down a lot.
He'll look up.
He doesn't connect with another person.
Those are some of his tells in terms of what he's doing.
But when you watch Kamala, it was just devastating.
Tell me about Kamala.
Oh my goodness.
Well, first of all, somebody prepared her very well during the debate because she handled herself okay.
At one debate.
At one debate.
And it really was once.
Once.
The minute after that, even when she was on with friendly reporters in much less stressful situations than the debate...
She was terrible again.
Horrible.
But one of the things she did was like this.
And this is like speech 101. Like if somebody says something derogatory to her, you go like this and look at them.
And it was like so contrived.
It was ridiculous.
And she could never answer a question.
You ask her a question, she'd do these what they call word salads in the press.
I used to make fun of her.
She did that.
I come from a middle class family.
What does it have to do with everything?
What are you going to do about Russia?
I come from a middle-class family.
Exactly.
It was really...
There was no comparison.
So it was kind of like Trump was debating himself because he couldn't really...
You know, he had no...
There was no substance there.
It was very, very sad to watch in a way.
So even to this day...
American courts do not accept the polygraph as evidence.
It's been around a long time.
Now, will certain courts accept The testimony of people who are experts at assessing body language or not?
Well, that's 50-50.
Sometimes I'm not allowed to do that, but it doesn't make a difference because I work with the attorney and I tell them what to do.
But in many cases, in some cases I have done it, but in many cases as a human behavior expert, that's what they call me.
So you're running up against a real prejudice of...
The jury system.
Oh, yes.
Which is, that's what the jury does.
And no one should take that function from a jury.
Even a judge will often get reversed if the judge gives his opinion on guilt.
Exactly.
Because that's the one thing he can't do.
Exactly.
Because that's what they're there for.
So my forte is working with the attorney and saying...
Say this.
Do this.
Or showing me the tapes.
There was a case where this fellow worked for, his name was Michael Irwin.
He worked for ESPN. And he was accused of sexual harassment.
I remember that case.
And I looked at the body language analysis of it and saw there's no way he was sexually harassing anybody.
Because the girl was very bold in her movement.
She was the one reaching out to touching him all the time.
Her body language was very confident.
There was no way she was harassed or had any sexual harassment on her.
And as a result, he's back on ESPN and they settled.
So this is the kind of stuff that I do.
I have a lot of cases like that.
And that's really exciting.
I would hate to get examined by you on a day I haven't checked.
No, but see, I would look at that as just the tick.
I'd look at other things, too, and your consistency.
So it's not just one thing.
How did you two meet, Ashley?
How did you meet?
Were you caught lying?
He was my nurse.
I had a little finger.
So I went to the hospital and had the doctor take care of it.
And we just became fast friends.
Isn't that nice?
She said, I love Rudy Giuliani.
You must be a really good nurse.
She's the best.
It was so wonderful and warm and caring, and it was just delightful.
It was my pleasure.
Yes, and then we had a lot.
So now you're in the medical profession.
What do you think about this people angry at...
I think they're sort of generally angry at medicine.
Right.
I mean...
Not just the insurance part of it, the delays, the...
Everything.
Yeah.
It's all...
And if you get to a hospital that's nice to you, it's like people...
They're in shock.
They're in shock.
I was in a hospital that was nice to me.
That was the norm 30...
I mean, I hate to go back.
You sound like an old man.
But 30 or 40 years ago, it was the norm that a hospital was nice to you.
I hear it every day at my work.
Where I work at the hospital for special surgery...
It's basically the Ritz-Carlton surgery centers.
We specialize in orthopedic surgery.
They did my knee.
Okay.
In Manhattan?
Uh-uh.
They did my knee in Southampton because I had had emergency knee surgery.
And the doctor, it happened at like 10 o'clock on a Sunday night at a party.
And I tripped and I split all four tendons in the knee.
I just snapped open.
Now I had a bad knee that I was going to have a knee operation on.
So it was very weak anyway.
And it was remarkably painful.
And you have to put them back within about two or three days.
Otherwise you can't walk properly because they tend to shrivel up.
So then when you put them back, That happens to the leg.
Luckily, one of the doctors from special surgery was out in Montauk at his summer house.
And I called them because they were taking care of my knee.
They were going to do my operation in four months.
And they said, well, go into Southampton, let them evaluate you, and we'll bring you in tomorrow morning for surgery.
So we're doing it.
And he says to me, you know, this is not an operation that requires, like, Multi-billion dollar equipment.
It requires my staff.
I can bring them out in the morning.
I'll do it right here.
Then you'll be in a nice, quiet hospital.
I said, fine.
And he did it right there.
That's amazing.
But he brought the people out from special surgery to take care of me.
And they did the operation, and then I did all my rehab there.
That's amazing.
Yeah, they're terrific.
They're miracle workers.
Yes.
I said to him, does this mean I don't need knee replacement surgery?
He said, probably not.
It's different.
It's just repairing the tendons.
You still have bone on bone.
Do you know something?
The knee doesn't bother me anymore.
Wow.
That's incredible.
I do need it on the other knee.
Okay.
But that knee, I haven't had pain in it since the operation.
It somehow cured the...
Is this an old athletic injury?
Yeah, did it catch your head?
Yeah.
I was a catcher from the time I was about two years old before the muscles there could strengthen.
Nowadays, they don't let you catch until you're about 14. And they put these special pads on you to protect it.
But I was an insane catcher.
I would catch three games a day.
I caught through college.
I caught in softball.
And then I used to play tennis.
And one day my knee just gave out.
And I was in extraordinary pain.
And the doctor said to me, were you a football player?
And I said, nah, no.
He said, oh, what kind of sport do you play?
Oh, I played college.
I played baseball.
A lot.
And he said, okay, you were a catcher, right?
So that's what ruined my knee.
I mean, a lot of that...
It comes from sports, from running, from running.
Yeah.
If you need your knee replaced, I know a couple...
I keep putting it off.
Well, I mean...
Can they do it down here?
Absolutely, yeah.
Because I live here now.
Yes, we can do it.
Our facility is right down the road, and, you know...
I don't want to brag or anything however we were voted and rated we're number one in the world in the world for the past 15 years so we take care of a lot of celebrities professional athletes a lot of international patients will fly in um for their surgery so let me do doctors are the best okay let me do my show from now um sure Now you can request me as your nurse.
And she's the best nurse ever.
I tried to do that when I went to Georgetown Hospital for COVID in the middle of the COVID scare and I tried to get them to do my radio show there.
They got really angry at me.
The president even called up to ask them if I could do it.
They told him no.
A lot of unethical things during COVID. They wouldn't even let family members in to be with their own loved ones who were dying.
I thought it was wacky.
That was, you know, insane.
And luckily we have a very compassionate governor who made it a lot or, you know, said that that would never happen here in Florida, where you would be restricted from being with, you know, a dying loved one.
That's just, it's cruel and inhumane.
It should have never happened.
It was absolutely awful what they did.
Well, thank you very, very much.
We have another guest, which is very, very interesting.
You promised to come back.
We're going to find like a trial or a situation where somebody we can watch.
We can watch somebody together.
And by the way, we bonded over our love for you.
We just thought we were so great.
I am very, very I was in New York when you were the mayor, and you were phenomenal.
You got everybody together and calmed them down after 9-11, and I just applaud you so much.
You're beautiful.
They're such nice people, and I feel so bad for them.
We're so wonderful.
I feel so bad for what's being done to them.
Well, thank you.
Thank you, Ashley.
Thank you, dear.
We'll see you later.
Yay!
You can find me on Instagram at the Maga Meme Queen.
Just spell that.
Just spell it.
Yeah, spell it out.
We're going to put it up.
It's hard to spell it.
That's the Maga M-A-G-A M-E-M-E Queen.
Just put in Ashley Wilson that doesn't...
No, that's my political meme page.
I see.
I see.
Yeah.
You have two?
Political meme page.
But that's the one that's funny.
That's a funny one.
My personal one is NurseAshley11.
That's my personal one.
And DrLillianGlass, you can find her on social media.
At DrLillianGlass on Instagram.
Or on www.DrLillianGlass.com.
Very accomplished, sir.
So, of these three books, which one would you start with?
I would start with this, with all the things I'm going through, yes.
That looks extremely helpful.
Yes.
How to deal with and handle things when you make your life miserable.
Absolutely.
Any pinching miser, the fanatic.
All these people had to deal with it.
Oh, we could do that.
We've got a lot to talk about.
It's just good stuff for you to learn personal.
Absolutely.
Just in making emails.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great.
That's extremely helpful.
So we'll be right back with the last guest.
Thank you, Dr. Glass.
It's a pleasure.
See you both.
Very.
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It's a pleasure.
We love it.
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And we are back, Mayor.
And we now have a very special guest joining us, a good friend of the show, someone I've known for quite a while now.
He's a regular viewer of the program, a big fan, Steve Hecht.
Steve?
He's a writer, he's a businessman, a global traveler.
Steve's got a lot of insight, Mayor, and he spends a lot of time in Guatemala.
Well, we're going to make sure we get that up on the board, Steve, so you know how I am with...
I always like people to know where these places are.
So how did you come, Steve, to spend so much time in Guatemala?
Well, I was born in New York and went to high school in New York City, college and graduate school in New York City.
I have an MBA, and I didn't want to work in a corporate meat grinder and On merits, I have no problem.
I'm ready to compete.
But on politics, internal politics, I wanted to avoid that.
So I went to Guatemala hoping that I could put together some business, and I managed to do that.
And that was 52 years ago, and I'm still there.
Wow!
But it's changed a lot, right?
It's what?
It's changed a lot.
Oh, it's changed a lot.
Some things haven't changed, but a lot of things have changed.
So tell us what it's like now.
Today, it's a rich country that's poor.
In other words, you take a rich country and you put poor management and it's not going to result very well.
So there are too many, too much poverty there, but that's because of the poor management.
And so the people are very nice.
And I would say, to a certain extent, more practical than Americans.
Really?
Yeah.
So, it's...
This is a terrible...
I'm trying to get a good map, which we will.
So, how big is it?
Guatemala, I'm not sure in terms of square miles, but it's about the size of Tennessee.
Right.
So the three countries I think of, I've been to all three at different times.
Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.
Correct.
So those are the three countries.
Sometimes it's called the Golden Triangle.
The Northern Triangle.
The Northern Triangle.
Which Guatemalans hate that description.
Why?
Why do they hate that description?
Because it loves them with Salvador and Honduras.
And if you're an American, you really think that that makes sense.
But if you're from there, there are differences among the countries.
And tell me the differences.
So Guatemala is the one that appears to be sort of in the middle, right?
Yeah.
It's right.
It's the closest one to Mexico, right?
Right.
So that's the place where if you're going through Mexico to come to the United States and coming from further south, you've got to go through Guatemala.
That's right.
The key thing about Guatemala for Americans to know Is that it is the only land route from South and Central America into Mexico.
And once illegal drugs and migrants get into Mexico, they are as good as in the United States, especially under this Biden regime.
Right.
Once you get into Mexico, you're in the United States.
Essentially.
Maybe changing now.
Maybe, right?
Well, that'll change, hopefully, with Donald Trump as president.
So I was looking at the map carefully to see, let's say you're coming up from Nicaragua, right?
Where there's a lot of drug traffic, right?
Or El Salvador.
You cannot escape Guatemala, right?
In getting into Mexico.
Right.
Maybe you can by going through Belize.
Yeah, but you've got to go through Guatemala to get to Belize.
Well, that's right.
You can come to Belize by water, but...
I'm talking about land.
Yeah.
By land, you must go through Guatemala to get to Mexico.
Right.
But can you get into Mexico from Belize?
Yeah, sure.
But you have to go through Guatemala to get to Belize, my land.
I mean, you can come from Europe to Belize and just come by water.
But if I'm in Nicaragua, right, and I'm on one of those walking things, I'm going to have to walk at some point through a little bit of Guatemala, unless I want to get in a boat, to get to Belize and avoid Guatemala.
Oh, yeah.
If you're from Nicaragua, yeah, unless you get on a boat in Nicaragua and take that boat over to Belize.
But, you know, look, the strategic importance of Guatemala is the drugs from South America are all going through there.
Ninety percent of the heroin in the United States passes through Guatemala.
And heads to the Mexican cartels.
Exactly.
He's doing it.
Or it's being handled by the Colombian cartels, which are kind of decimated, the Colombian cartels.
Well, I wouldn't say that.
The Colombian president, best friend, is Hugo Chavez.
Not Hugo Chavez, because he's gone.
It was Nicolas Maduro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I remember Colombia when it dominated the entire region.
And these were just little...
Oh, sure.
These were just little playthings they pushed around.
They've become much more powerful.
Yeah, well, look, that's like you're talking about the difference between Alvaro Uribe in Colombia and Gustavo Petro is like the difference between Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama.
Right, right.
Now, they had...
Now, tell me the government in Guatemala.
Because they've had a lot of changes in government.
Nicaragua is the old communist government.
It's still a communist government, kind of, right?
Yes.
Or is it a communist government?
Yes.
You know who made it that way?
The United States State Department.
That makes sense.
Now, how do they do that?
They supported Daniel Ortega in 2007 to become president.
And...
Today, they say bad things about him.
They criticize him.
They brought him back on the theory that he'd become a capitalist.
Yeah, right.
Which I thought was the biggest bullshit that ever lived.
And that was the bad Bush period.
Right.
Correct.
He's a capitalist.
I mean, I love Condoleezza Rice.
Yeah.
But she lacks basic hard-nosed common sense.
No, no, no.
Bush and Condoleezza Rice, they were establishment Republicans.
Believe it or not, believe it or not, General Powell, who people would think was like more of a moderate Republican, he's a lot tougher on foreign policy than she was.
Well, you did a lot of work for Congress.
For Colin Powell.
He was a good friend.
I did a lot of lectures with him.
Well, I liked his doctrine.
If you're going to go to war, make sure you're going to win.
Yeah, 500,000 troops and overwhelming.
And also, he had until the time he was in there.
I can remember him just laughing at the idea that Ortega Yeah.
Communists do that all the time.
They go through these so-called changes to fool us.
And we've got to be absolutely stupid.
It comes right out of Marx's playbook.
So Nicaragua is really an ally now of Venezuela.
Oh, yeah.
Big ally.
Oh, sure.
And part of the group of countries that have become, with Cuba, more left-wing.
Well, the big one is the Sao Paulo Forum.
Which was created by Lula of Brazil and Fidel Castro in 1990. That's before Lula went to jail.
Now Lula is out of jail now and he's president.
Yeah, Lula.
Well, you know who helped him get out.
Joe Biden.
Tell me.
There's nothing Joe Biden wouldn't do if it's criminal, so tell me.
I agree with that.
Unfortunately, but that's the way it is.
So tell us about how the Biden administration through the State Department has caused a lot of the problems that we're now facing when it comes to the border crisis and other issues, not just in Guatemala, but the region as a whole.
What Americans need to know about the biden regime i don't call it administration i never thought it was i do too i call it a regime i call it a regime yes yeah yeah yeah i've called it a regime for three years now i can't i couldn't find the right i mean i call it the biden crime family for purposes of my book your book yeah but uh and i i began that actually even before the hard drive i put together i put together a rico case based upon his dealings in iraq Ukraine,
China, and Russia.
Each one of those places he got bribes.
Each one of those places he had been sent by Obama to represent the United States.
And each one of those places he failed to accomplish his objectives in the United States.
And the family came out with millions of dollars.
Well, the objective of the people of the United States, yes.
But his objective, he succeeded.
Yes, yes.
And Biden was tasked by Obama...
With being the point, Obama's point man in Guatemala when he was vice president.
And Biden took over Guatemala's judiciary.
I wrote about it in 2015 and I predicted everything that's happened the last four years, I predicted in writing.
So tell us a little outline of what you predicted.
The dictatorship, the lawfare.
For instance, I mean, here I'm talking to somebody who's probably one of the most victimized in the whole thing, which is you.
I mean, they go after you on phony charges.
They break the law to persecute you because you got too close to exposing the The real problem of the United States, which is the military-industrial complex, supported by the State Department and allied with our social engineering elites.
Yeah, yeah.
And I, believe it or not, the Biden corruption was a surprise to me.
I believe it.
I knew Biden since 1981, and I was introduced to him by a law school Classmate of his and my Chief of Staff when I was the Attorney General.
And he said to me, I don't think he'd admit this now because he's a Democrat now.
And he said to me, quote, and I have a flawless memory.
He said for interesting things.
He said to me, I remember exactly how it started.
He said, you should run for the Senate in Delaware.
And I said, Jeff, why should I run for the Senate in Delaware?
He said, because you don't have to spend any money, and you can be exceedingly stupid, and you're smart, and you can win.
And I said, well, how's that?
He said, because my classmate, you remember, he won a few years ago.
Joe Biden was the dumbest guy in our law school class, and he cheated his way through law school.
And he's now the senator, and he just got...
He just got moved up very prematurely on the Judiciary Committee.
Now I'm going to tell you, we should go get to know him.
It was my job to get U.S. Attorneys and U.S. Marshals appointed.
They all have to be confirmed.
As well as to assist with federal judges.
So the Judiciary Committee was really important to me.
And Senator Thurman was the chairman at the time.
And he wasn't quite the ranking Democrat yet.
He became the ranking Democrat within just a few years.
But he was the most interested and the most involved.
So I went over and met him.
And my first experiences were terrific.
I liked him a lot.
I liked him so much that I hired his niece to work in City Hall.
The guy who exposed his criminality had his niece working for him for six years.
Over the years, and particularly when he went after Bork, I started to see a mean side to him.
Not personally.
You don't do that mean act if it isn't there.
I also always was more effective than I should be by being told that he was stupid.
Of course, I would pick up every one of his mistakes.
I would pick up every one of his mistakes.
I also would notice he was like Joe Scarborough.
He would repeat The Democrat talking point of the day.
That's why they made him president.
Without any analysis.
You just repeat it.
I remember once going there.
It wasn't my field, but I was very interested in Star Wars.
He was the biggest opponent of Star Wars.
Number one.
He would say the dumbest things.
I had been with President Reagan, where President Reagan did a great job of explaining Star Wars.
It goes something like this.
You say to the person, Can a missile shoot down an airplane?
Person says, yes.
Okay.
If a missile can shoot down an airplane, can a missile that's faster and smarter than another missile shoot down a missile?
Yes.
I said, that's Star Wars.
It just got Star Wars, jerk-off.
And so I did this.
I would repeat this because Reagan would do this.
Well, it helped break the Soviet Union.
It took like 25 minutes for him to get it.
I had to draw a missile.
So I would say to people, many years before any of this happened, I would say to people, He is the dumbest man I know.
He is not the dumbest man in the Senate.
He is the dumbest man I know.
I want you to think of all the people you know.
In your family, outside your family.
The people you meet in grocery stores.
And think of the dumbest one.
Joe's dumber.
Now they face me with, but he made $50 million.
Well, he didn't do that in a very bright way.
I mean, completely crooked.
But, you know, the problem is that you were unqualified to be senator from Delaware.
You have principles and you weren't corrupt.
Yeah, I even had experience.
He got elected at 29 years old.
There's actually a tape of his that should be played the night that he, if they do like a special on him, we should take out an ad and play it, where he says something almost similar to, if I hadn't raised all this money, I would have cheated.
He said, cheating in politics or breaking the law with campaign finance happens all the time.
Luckily, I did not have to do it because I raised a lot of money.
But if I hadn't, there were times in which I probably would have.
And you say to yourself, I attributed it that at that time, not to his being corrupt, but being stupid.
It's a stupid thing to say.
Well, it is.
Of course it is.
But when I saw his confession, I just went bonkers.
When I saw him say, and I didn't see it until 2015, where he says, I told Poroshenko and Yustinov, if you don't get rid of the prosecutor, you're not going to get your $1 billion.
And they said, but he's...
They resisted.
And I said, well, I'm leaving.
I'm leaving.
And Poroshenko said, but you're not the president.
And I said, and he makes this stupid, boastful smile.
This is where I got body language right.
He did his boastful smile and he says, call him, call him.
And the guy...
Son of a bitch!
He says, son of a bitch!
Yeah.
He got rid of the guy.
So he's bragging about how corrupt he is.
Now, I heard that, and I said, please play that again for me.
And I sat down, and I took out a little piece of paper.
And I did a, you remember when they used to teach things like English and they would teach you how to parse a sentence, you know, you'd put noun, verb, object.
So I said, okay, I probably have tried to.
I have memorized the definition of bribery, but it boils down to two things.
That's where the word quid pro quo came from during its Giving, offering something of value for official action.
Something of value was the billion dollars.
And the official action was getting rid of the prosecutor.
Now, that's a felony straight out.
It becomes much more prosecutable When you add the thing, I didn't know until several days later.
What was his motive for doing it?
I kept thinking, well, why would Joe Biden get this guy fired?
Somebody said, well, the guy was crooked.
Oh, come on.
Half the prosecutors in the world are crooked.
Three-quarters are crooked.
And the guy was a little old man, and if he was crooked, he wasn't good at it.
He had like a broken-down old car, a broken-down old house, and Ukrainians overdo their wealth.
So if you're a millionaire, you try to look like a billionaire, you know?
And if you're a billionaire, you try to look like a trillionaire.
You know, Biden's trying to do the same thing that the Attorney General of Guatemala wants to throw her out because she has proven the fraud of the people that Biden's State Department has imposed on Guatemala.
And she's investigating child trafficking, which is now a very big thing here.
Why does he...
You know, I have my own theory about that, but why does he...
Why does he protect child trafficking?
You know, under him...
He's not protecting it.
He's engaged in it.
Health and Human Services has the data...
That could be used to find 320,000, according to the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General, missing migrant children.
HHS delivered those children to sponsors.
They have all the data.
Attorneys general of states have asked for it.
Congressional committees have asked for it.
And they don't give the data that our government can use to find the children because they're protecting the government.
And they just had a hearing.
Two subcommittees of the House Homeland Security Committee held a hearing on November 19th.
This is terrible.
And what they said in that hearing would shock every American if they heard the hearing.
This is terrible.
Yeah, I mean, J.J. Carroll, who had worked in Border Patrol for 24 years, said that the United States government is the biggest child trafficker in the world, and he said Biden, Harris, and Mayorkas are guilty of treason against the United States.
And then they talked about all of the awful things that are done to children, like organ harvesting.
This is in a congressional hearing only a few weeks ago.
And this should provoke, well, Tom Holman has pledged that one of his three priorities, he's got three, get rid of the illegal immigrants with criminal records right away, close the border, and the other one is find the missing children.
If you investigate the Biden regime's child trafficking and you find those missing children, that's going to take you right down to the countries of origin, like one of the whistleblowers said in the hearing.
And the place where they have most of those children coming from is Guatemala, 85,000.
Why is that?
Well, because of where Guatemala is located and because Guatemala has been run by the United States State Department since Obama became president.
And they imposed criminal socialists on Guatemala.
They led a fraud to impose a criminal, to impose a communist on Guatemala last year.
And now it's going to be very interesting what's going to happen with the new administration.
Because if you follow this thread, you will discover that the State Department is a criminal organization.
And they committed crime after crime in Guatemala because Guatemalans resisted them.
And if you expose all of that criminality, especially in congressional hearings or the Justice Department, all kinds of countries are going to come forward.
The people who were in the State Department and have left, and some people who are still in it will come forward.
People from the DEA, people from the Southern Command, they'll all come forward and they'll testify.
And the American public will be absolutely shocked at the egregious criminality that they will see.
Now, the motive for the criminality of the State Department, money or ideology?
Both.
And, you know, like, I mean, look, all the drug smuggling and all the people smuggling, I mean, I can't prove it, but if I had subpoena power, I'd sure as hell try.
These people have to.
They've enriched the Mexican cartels to the tunes of billions, many billions of dollars.
Mexican cartels have, under Biden, gone from being...
Pretty darn powerful organized crime group compared to 20 years ago, where they would just play things to the Colombians, to being maybe the biggest, most dangerous, and most sophisticated organized crime group in the world.
Yes.
With the help of China.
Exactly.
And they control Mexico.
Mexico's a failed state.
Now, if you look, for instance, at the State Department, the head of The Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement, Todd Robinson.
This guy, in my opinion, is a criminal.
But he and Biden go back to 2015 in Guatemala when Biden came there and the president at that time of Guatemala said that Biden was a partner in a company called Baxter and was a healthcare provider.
And it had lost its contract.
And Biden wanted it back.
And he lobbied, as Vice President, he lobbied to get this contract back.
You know how they got it back?
There was an international, there was a commission created by the United Nations, not a Friend of Liberty.
And the United Nations Commission, with Todd Robinson, the ambassador to Guatemala, running the damn thing, They put 17 innocent people in jail for almost four years.
Two years later, the auditing agency of the Guatemalan government said, hey, the contract given to Baxter's competitor was properly done, and two years after that, all of these people were acquitted after spending nearly four years in jail.
This is what it would be like here if Kamala Harris had won.
That's what the United States...
Yeah, it kept me up at night with Kamala Harris winning because of...
Of what you told me.
We're going to have to continue this discussion because I think the American people don't know enough.
That's right.
Never have.
About Central America, Latin America, South America.
uh it's always been a contention of mine and every president comes in with the right intentions you know we're going to pay more attention to our neighbor we're going to pay more attention to our neighbor and then other things and i don't know if all of this is on purpose some is some isn't all of this is um Well, I would say this.
And I think Monroe probably was correct.
Yeah.
You've got to start from the inside out, right?
It's like even your own personal life.
If you want to straighten out the world, you've got to straighten out yourself and all around you.
Absolutely.
And then you've got the freedom to straighten out the rest of the world.
I would say this, that if that State Department criminality becomes generally known to the public, they will be so surprised, so disgusted, That the war machine, the military-industrial complex and the social engineering elites will no longer be able to use it to support their avoidable wars and their endless wars.
Now that's what MAGO is about.
That's what President Trump wants to see happen.
So if he follows the thread of investigations of government child trafficking, it'll take him to Guatemala.
He looks there.
He's going to find egregious criminality, and that's going to come right back up here, and it's going to discredit the State Department, and they're not going to have the credibility to get us into avoidable wars anymore.
Well, when he won in 2016...
And he asked me what I wanted to do.
He told me I wanted to be Secretary of State.
I would imagine his uncle, his cousins, his nephews, everybody in the world.
And he wanted me to be Attorney General.
With what you saw in Ukraine?
There were two reasons why I didn't want to be Attorney General.
One, I had been the third-ranking official in the Justice Department.
I had worked in it for 17 years, and it wasn't a challenge.
Yeah.
I had already changed the Justice Department, or been part of it.
Well, the United States is a lot better off today than you've been Secretary of State.
I thought the State Department was the agency that was the most dysfunctional.
And corrupt.
From my years, and corrupt.
But I thought of it as more ideologically corrupt.
The Marxist influence, the communist influence.
It's true.
All of the other ideas they had.
I also thought they were the biggest group of intellectual snobs and jackasses I had ever met.
Oh, that's a compliment to them.
Yeah, I mean, unbelievable jackasses.
Because when Bush was the president, he would occasionally use me.
And Colin was the Secretary of State.
I traveled to over 100 countries since I've been mayor.
And when Bush was president, every time I came back, or almost every time, I'd give them a briefing, and I did a few things for them, particularly with Colin.
And I could see how frustrated he was with the State Department.
Oh, yeah.
They didn't run the State Department.
I came to the conclusion From the Reagan administration, then that experience, that it wasn't working for us.
This goes back a long time.
I had a plan.
I was going to do the same thing to the State Department of the City of New York.
Yeah.
I fired 8,000 people.
That's why you weren't Secretary of State.
Now, you can't fire them all, but I have a trick for what you do when you can't fire them.
I was going to set up a big international center in Antarctica.
And I was going to say, it requires about 3,000 or 4,000 people in the State Department to keep it going.
Send them all to Antarctica and see if they can have cocktail parties.
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
In three weeks, if they don't have the cocktail parties.
And move the headquarters of the United Nations to Tehran.
That's a good idea.
Well, at least it could be in a country they support.
Right.
I once said, it was probably a bad expression after September 11th, that we should blow up the U.S. But I said, but I had a purpose for it.
I said, New York City would make more money when you consider not the money we get from the UN, but the money we spend on the UN because of all the damn crimes they commit.
They are, they are, they are, half of those delegates are criminals.
Not only that, they specialize in sexual deviancy.
They beat the hell out of their children.
They beat the hell out of their wives.
They have sex with their children.
Incest is like, I have a baby with my daughter.
And when Ahmadinejad went to Columbia University in 2008, the School of International Affairs invited this guy.
And I wrote, and I said, I have two degrees from that school, from your school, and I can tell you're making a huge mistake, because they said, oh no, you've got to give everybody a chance to talk.
So they bring this guy over there, and he's talking, and they open up to questions.
And somebody says to Ahmadinejad, what about homosexuals in Iran?
And he says, we don't have any.
Yeah, that's the stupidest damn thing in the world, those guys who...
Who are protesting for Palestine.
Queers for Palestine.
Yeah, one part of Palestine, it's a 10-year offense, and the other part is a capital offense.
Yeah.
Well, in Iran, they kill them.
That's why they don't have any.
I mean, if you think you're going to get killed because you admit it, you're never going to admit it.
And these idiots at Columbia University, oh, well, but Dinejad, you know why they liked him?
Because he was anti-American.
We've got plenty to talk about.
You're going to be back.
And we'll get educated on Latin America and South America and all these countries.
I think Trump has the opportunity to fix all this.
He's been given a kind of a portfolio to do that by the American people.
I would say.
And he doesn't have to back off one bit.
And I hope he puts the pedal to the metal.
So far, so good.
It looks that way.
I mean, you can never accomplish everything you want to accomplish, but if he can accomplish three quarters of it, wow.
The most important thing that Trump has to do in his term is at least begin dismantling the deep state.
Yeah, you know, if you begin it, If you begin it and you get it to a certain point, they won't be able to reverse it.
Exactly.
If you expose the criminality, it's not a difference of politics.
It's not like the child trafficking thing.
In that hearing on November 19th, the Democrats had no...
They couldn't do anything.
Now, some of them attacked Trump because, you know, everything is Trump's fault.
And it was a stupid thing to do.
But half of the Democrats were saying, oh, we have to end this.
In other words, child trafficking should offend every human being.
I would think so.
But then you get California, which is a democratic state that reduces the penalties for pedophilia.
Who would...
I can't imagine a strong enough penalty for pedophilia.
No, not exactly.
I don't want to tell you what I think you should do.
Well, yeah.
It wouldn't be good to say right here, right now.
It would be hard for you to present to me, at least personally, a penalty for pedophilia That was harsh enough.
These people are trying to purposely destroy the United States.
Take down our constitutional republic and replace it with a dictator.
It's a question of taking away our morality.
Exactly.
You add it all up.
Every domestic policy, every foreign policy, the United States suffers.
Right from taking God out, taking the flag out, taking our heroes away, taking our statues down, Right.
Playing around with our sexuality, which is like dynamite.
I mean, it's like playing around with your head.
Destroying family?
Anything more complicated than sexuality?
No.
Calling concerned parents domestic terrorists because they don't want their children to propaganda?
Marx died writing a book, which Engels finished, about the critical thing for communism is to get control of the child and away from the parent at two years old.
Yeah.
When you listen to modern-day Democrats, they believe that the child is a property of the state.
Yeah.
So, Tampon Tim, a recent...
You know who he'll stop at?
Fidel Castro.
Yeah, we know the communists.
Tampon Tim, a 14-year-old can go there, the 14-year-old can have his genitals taken off, and the parents can't stop him.
Right.
That's to destroy the family.
Because the state is the superior wisdom.
It's to take over.
The state knows better that this kid at 14 years old, that doesn't have any idea who the hell he is yet, should make a permanent change in his life that's probably going to lead to his suicide.
There's nothing legal about that, is there?
I think it's unconstitutional, but we'll see.
But...
Minnesota is the worst.
Because Minnesota has become like a center.
So if you're from Florida where you can't do that, if you're from Florida where you can't do that, you can go to Minnesota and you can do it.
Yeah.
The only state Reagan didn't win in 1984. Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Mayor, we're well into our fourth hour.
I know.
I think this may be a record.
I think this may be a record.
Well, we'll be back with you tomorrow.
I don't know if we'll have anything to talk about tomorrow.
We're talking about everything.
We'll be back with you tomorrow to see how the confirmations are proceeding and to get an idea of What else is Biden going to do to us?
I can't believe we're finished yet.
I mean, he's trying to start a world war.
He's letting off criminals left and right who are, like the people of pedophiles, who are ongoing dangers to the country.
I do believe that the 12 or 1600 pardons I don't think he would have done that many if he doesn't have some really difficult pardons in mind.
So he's kind of saving those.
I would predict...
Joe Brennan?
James Comey?
Yeah.
Because he's got a look in the eyes of not even Trump, but the Republicans.
They want them.
I mean, there's going to be tremendous pressure.
Even if Trump wanted to be magnanimous, His electorate is not magnanimous.
Too many of them have been beaten up.
That's right.
Have had their rights taken away.
And they also believe...
But he's right.
Revenge is success.
Success is revenge.
Yeah, yeah.
My theory is, don't prosecute all of them.
It's too much.
It'll look like a persecution.
Correct.
Pick the top 10 or 20. Make a very good case against them.
If you don't have a good case, move on to the next one.
Ironclad.
Yeah.
And convict about 20 of them.
And send them off to jail for a good period of time.
I know it'll scare the hell out of them.
Accountability.
The reason they have gone further and further and further and further is they haven't been held accountable.
And they're like, it's a terrible thing to compare them to bad children.
They're much worse than bad children.
But it's like bad children who push and push and push and push, and now they've pushed way out into it.
That's like the State Department.
That's why they commit so many crimes, because Congress never holds them to account, because they have pressure from the establishment to protect the State Department.
And so they just do more and more and more.
They'll have plenty of time to do it in Antarctica.
Yeah.
So, I want you to pray for Israel.
Hmm?
And I want you to pray for the people of Ukraine.
They don't deserve what's happening to them.
They don't deserve it, not just by Russia, but by their own corrupt government.
The people of Iran, there are a heck of a lot more of them that want to be free than you realize.
In fact, of all the countries that are That are overwhelmed by despotism.
They're probably the one with the largest number of resistors and strong ones if we knew how to utilize that.
We used to once know how to do that.
So let's pray for them.
And let's pray, of course, for everyone in the United States and start getting ourselves ready for Hanukkah and for Christmas.
And God, is it possible to just like put Trump in now?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I can't pray for that.
Okay.
God bless America.
God bless America.
Who knows what it's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred, It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers in which Thomas Paine explained by rational principles the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate From the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country, a country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason, we're able to talk, we're able to analyze.
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