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The Rudy Giuliani Show Live From The RNC - 18 July 2024
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Hello, this is Rudy Giuliani and I am coming to you from, you know where, the Republican
National Convention.
And we have the big night tonight.
Tonight is the night of the acceptance speech, and the first time that former President Trump Forget that former.
President Trump is going to talk to us since he came this close to death.
I think it's quite a historic event.
I think that experience, which is one that I've had, does change you.
And it's gonna be very interesting to see what those changes are.
I've talked to him, and I'm not gonna I'm not going to, even if it may or may not, I'm not going to prejudice you with my view of it until after he speaks.
Probably have already said things about it.
But that was a day ago, and therefore Might be different.
We had a terrible shock today, losing a good friend, Lou Dobbs.
I have Dr. Maria with me because Dr. Maria recently substituted for Lou for about four days.
And I was very honored to be a guest a couple of times with her, and then with Lou when he came back.
And I'm surprised because I think it was only about six or eight weeks ago.
That you did it, and he looked good.
He really looked good.
Rudy, I got the shock of my life.
I was on the Dr. Maria show live when Mike Lindell interrupted.
Watch this clip from earlier today.
Oh!
Hi, Mike Lindell.
Oh, God, Lou.
Oh, yes, come on in, Mike.
You guys, our dear friend Lou Dobbs just passed away.
Lou Dobbs?
Yes.
I just heard his wife just called me.
I talked to her yesterday.
I knew it was bad.
We prayed with her yesterday.
Oh, look at you.
And Lou is a big part of our network here, and he's a great friend of mine.
I didn't realize I looked like that.
He's a great friend of mine, too.
For a long time.
We pray for Debbie, his wife, and their family.
But I just wanted to get on here and tell everybody.
Yeah, it was quite shocking.
And then to be on air trying to talk about the convention.
But we could see that you were really, you were really surprised.
Seeing that, I didn't realize how I looked, but it was how I felt inside.
And that was Monica.
Yeah, Monica Crowley.
What a great guest she was.
Monica Crowley, who knows Lou very well, too.
You know, I know Lou going back to the 1980s when I was United States Attorney and prosecuting I mean, prosecuting cases, but in particular, the Wall Street cases.
And Lou was a financial journalist to start with, financial expert to start with.
And that's how he originally made his reputation.
I think he was probably the foremost on television in the 80s and 90s.
And then he began into politics.
And I remember his big issue was, very early on, the open border and the dangers of an open border.
How long ago is that, Rudy?
Well, the financial reporting was in the 80s, for sure.
I mean, there's a picture now, I think, they have of... Oh, yes, that's you and Lou and the President.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think... Oh, I bet I know what it... I can tell by the background.
I think... Well...
I think it's New Year's.
Am I wearing a tuxedo?
Yes, you are.
Yeah, that's probably New Year's.
Yeah.
That's probably, but we don't know which one.
It could have been 20, or it could have been any of them.
Looks like a bit ago, like about two, three years ago at least, right?
Apparently he's been- But the most amazing thing was the good condition that he was in.
What a great reporter, what a great journalist, what a great man, what a great intellect.
Quite a fighter as well.
He stood up like you do, like we all do at Frank Speech TV.
He had a show on Frank Speech TV as well.
And he was a true patriot.
Really sad news.
He really basically was unconscious for a few days, suffering from bone cancer, which, God, is very, very painful.
And my heart goes out to Deb and the rest of the Well, God bless his whole family.
There he is!
There he is on Moneyline!
Yeah, oh boy, there's a young Lowe!
Look at him!
Oh my goodness, look at that!
Oh my God, he's so... You want to pinch those cheat sheets!
That's more like what we remember!
Oh, and there's him and his lovely wife, Deb.
Such a kind human being.
Good sense of humor, too.
Yeah.
Great sense of humor.
And a gentleman.
A gentleman.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
Oh, I like the young ones, boy.
I like the young ones.
You've got the old young ones to look back.
Well, I'm sorry you had to deal with that shock today.
Yeah, it was shocking news.
But I'm sorry for his family and Deb and all.
I am, too.
I am, too.
All the people who loved him so much, including us.
It's going to be a great, great loss.
I mean, the man Really, he had great wisdom and would be very excited tonight, that's for sure.
Yes, he'd be here, for sure.
But I'm sure he's looking...
I'm sure he's going to have a six or seven o'clock show in heaven, absolutely.
He'll give first a financial report on the market.
If they think about the market in heaven, I'm not sure.
But they certainly think about all these crazy things to go on on Earth, that's for sure.
Well, Rudy, recently you were on Jack Poseyek's show, and he gave you a book, and I think you read it overnight.
No, I read it in three days.
Yeah, I'm going to step aside and let Jack come in here.
So I will see you later, Mayor.
Now, Jack's book is...
Fabulous, it's called The Unhumans.
I have it in my hotel room.
And I was actually thinking of bringing it over today, hoping I could get a chance to talk to Jack.
And then I just left it on my bureau.
I finished it last night, believe it or not.
You know, when I interviewed you, Jack, I said I'd read it in one night or two nights.
But then it took about five days to come.
Well, there's been a little bit.
Amazon says it's shipping problems.
So I did a lot of it on Kindle.
Okay.
So it's underlined.
Which is really good for me because now when I want to go back and pick up the best part of it, I've gotten about four or five pages of underlining.
There you go, folks.
See what happens when Mayor Giuliani reads your book, he gives you notes.
Well, the book is extremely timely and I think explains a thing that many, many people walk around like in a daze thinking, how could all this be happening to us?
I mean, it seems like, gosh, it must be connected, but they don't know how it's connected.
That's right.
And you can explain it to them.
So for anyone who doesn't know anything about how it's done, the book is called Un-Humans, the Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
And what we do in the book is we walk through systematically How leftist organizations, leftist movements, leftist groups use grievance politics all the way back from the French Revolution to Russia, to Spain, to China, all throughout the third world.
We go to Latin America, we go to Africa and each chapter is like a case study.
and explaining how these tactics are played out.
Now, in different times and places, they might be slightly different names,
the Bolsheviks, the Rojos, the Chinese Communist Party, the Jacobin Club, for example.
And some of the tactics might be different because warfare changes over the years.
And so, but you always see the same high-level strategies employed
to destabilize, to infiltrate, to obfuscate, take over the machinations of information,
information control of the environment, and then, of course, using the grievance policies
and politics to essentially always say...
That whoever the people are who are successful, or accomplished, or for lack of a better term, have built things, or like in your sense, Mr. Mayor, cleaned up things, and taking care of business, and showed us, by the way, that crime and violent crime do not have to be part of our society, that they are in fact a choice.
And we actually explain how they use criminals and how they use violent crime as a check on the middle class to keep them down, to keep them preoccupied, and how this is actually a tool of a very old sort of system that's used to take over countries and take total control.
So developing criminality in society, making a society as immoral as possible.
Even to the point of the absurd.
Yes.
Truly immoral.
Like mutilating children and not telling the parents.
Precisely.
This is part of the theory of taking over.
How you get complete domination and control over people.
That's right.
And so what you would do then is, we call this the, and other folks have used this phrase, The coalition of the fringes.
And you put together leftist politics by creating more and more of these fringe types, and then going to your just average American and saying that, well, no, you need to be a good person by supporting these people.
And so it's essentially divide and conquer.
So you use divide and conquer in a society.
Now, Marx classically used this as your bourgeoisie and your proletariat.
Everybody knows those terms.
That's the bourgeoisie and the paroles.
But the problem was that when it came to the West, they realized that the West had too big of a middle class.
And the middle class was already doing very well.
The middle class already understood that they wanted their law and order.
They wanted their guardrails on society, their guardrails on civilization.
And then, of course, the Soviet Union falls in 1991, and the power of the free market system is just too strong for anyone to really take the economic side of Marxism more seriously.
And so the Marxist says, well, I don't care about the economic side.
What they do is they switch to sociology.
They switch to the sociological tactics of, and we've all heard these now, race, gender, religion, ethnicity, background, all of these different So instead of a division of rich and poor, based on economics, and it becomes a division based on race, religion, what we now call identity politics.
So instead of dividing a country top-bottom, you divide it sideways.
But the end result is still the same, because what you've done is you've taken your society, you've split it up into various tribes, and then you pit the tribes against each other, and while those tribes are fighting, you use that to claw your way to the top.
Well, I think this book is extremely timely.
It's going to mean a lot, and you're being able to interpret a great deal of what happens from now on.
Because whatever happens with the Democrat Party, you can be sure they're going to select an identity politics candidates very, very shortly.
We might be seeing that very shortly.
And I'm told that there's a rumor going around that a selection has already been made.
I think that it's premature.
I don't think that Biden has made the final decision yet whether or not what he's going to do.
That being said, there's no love lost between Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
That's something that we believe- Somehow, he's already announced that he may not endorse her.
Oh, I would not surprise me at all.
That would not surprise me for a second.
It would not surprise me for a second.
But it sounds like she may be the- And remember, it's not Joe driving that train.
It's Jill.
Dr. Jill would be the one who, even if she has to go kicking and screaming from the- Jersey Jill, right?
Jersey Jill.
If she wants to go- And I've known the Bidens for a long time.
I've seen them.
Because I used to be at UPenn.
I used to see them in Philadelphia all the time.
Amtrak and all this.
Third Center in Pennsylvania.
I remember all that.
You have a pick before we finish?
Amy Gutmann and all the galas and all this.
Jersey Jill, she doesn't wanna let go of the life.
So she will go kicking and screaming and demand no endorsement.
We've already finished, you have a pick?
I don't think that they can dislodge Kamala Harris.
I don't think so either.
I really don't.
And what I think, and what I've been hearing, is that the Obamas are lining up behind her.
I should tell you, I think politically it makes the most sense.
It does.
Yeah, because the disruption, the other, anything else would cause, would be great for us.
It would be too great.
Yeah.
It would be too great.
I love running against her, but I think I prefer the disruption too.
The disruption could be fine either way.
There might be disruption and we'd still end up with her.
Well, I'll tell you what, Mr. Mayor, I think that when I've been talking to Charlie Kirk and some of the other guys about this, and I think we're going to go to Chicago this year for the- You're going to be there?
Mike and I are already working on it.
You're already working on it?
I love it!
Do you know I've been at the last three Democrat conventions?
Not the last three.
I missed the one, you know, the COVID one.
Well, that was a real convention.
I used to go on the acceptance speech day to screw it up.
Oh, I think we gotta go.
I think we gotta go.
We'll make a pact.
Alright.
We're gonna take a short break and you make sure you get that book.
I'm gonna quiz you on it.
I love it.
Alright, I gotta head over there.
Take care, Jack.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
See you later.
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Welcome back.
This is Rudy Giuliani.
We're at the Republican Convention, and we have with us a really, really wonderful young talent, Rachel Holt, who has a hit song that is unusual, I would say, and beautiful.
The hit song is, I Was Going to Be.
Now, if I tell you what it's about, you'll realize why that's so significant.
It's about pro-life, and it's about the unborn, and about the plight of the unborn.
I think that's his first song touching on that subject.
So, Rachel, how did this song, you're 18 years old, you have a background already in singing, you've recorded before, but this is your first for a label, correct?
Yes, this is my first song with Bass Records.
And it's gotten up to number nine on the charts.
On Billboard.
For an 18-year-old, first song, that's pretty damn good, pretty darn good.
You pretty excited?
Yeah.
Song came out on June 21st.
So it went number 5 to iTunes Country Charts and then number 9 on Billboard.
And how did you feel about doing it?
It's written by Chris Wallen, correct?
That's my producer.
And Chris has done a lot of songs for big names and big talent.
Yes.
So you were quite fortunate to have... Yeah, of course.
So what were your songs before this?
So I grew up on bluegrass music.
My grandpa did bluegrass music, and he was a great songwriter.
He wrote songs for Alice and Krauss.
So the first song I ever put out was one that he wrote, and then I started writing when I was about 15, and I did an album that I wrote myself, and then that's when I got in touch by a family friend for Bass Records, and we started working with him.
And is that how you met Chris?
Yes.
I'm pointing at Chris over here.
There's Chris.
And the song Did you find the song difficult?
Not the singing of it, but it's a very emotional song.
This is a song you're going to have to read and listen to any number of times.
Some don't believe I'm a living soul, just a bad mistake that needs to go.
If my mama could have just seen my face, maybe she would have had me anyway.
Wow.
That's powerful stuff.
So how did you feel about doing it?
So there was some backlash with it, but honestly, there was more positivity than backlash, but I think it was good.
Backlash meaning people that were upset?
Yeah.
That you did, I guess we would have to call it a pro-life song?
Yes.
Wow.
And you come from Indiana?
Which would be, you know, more of a, I would think, a Christian, more of a Christian community than, let's say, New York or Hollywood.
I was very surprised.
Yeah, yeah.
It was more people from back home than anything.
More people from back home that were not happy about the song?
Yeah.
I mean, this is a point of view.
You don't have to even agree with it, but it's a point of view that you should have.
We're going to listen to the song.
What happens after this?
We're actually working on an EP, so five more songs.
We have a single coming out soon.
So when you say, with Chris again?
Yeah, with the record label.
Well, Chris, congratulations.
The lyrics are superb, Chris.
They really are.
They're poetry.
And I really, how do people get your song?
You can go to IWasGonnaBe.com and there's a direct download link from there.
Or you can look up my name on any platform and the song will come up.
So you just put in- Rachel Holt or I Was Gonna Be.
Yeah, I would get this song.
This is worth listening to any number of times.
So we're going to listen to it now, and we really wish you luck with it.
Thank you.
With that song, and I'm sure there are going to be many, many in the future.
I look forward to interviewing you again.
Thank you.
Thank you, Rachel.
So let's play it!
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm a living soul Just a bad mistake that needs to go
If my mama could've just seen my face Maybe she would've had me anyway
And there are those who speak for me Who fight for lives that they can't see
But there are some who only mourn This life of mine if I were born
And all I wanted was a chance To learn to love and laugh and dance
Oh, but I was born before I arrived To stand back to heaven on this starlight flight
Yeah, I was gonna change the world And I was gonna be a girl
Yeah, I was gonna be a girl you
The first thing I was gonna do Was breathe and fall in love with you
But a couple of weeks before I saw the light My mind flickered out when you changed your mind
And all I wanted was a chance To learn to love and laugh and dance
But I was gone before I arrived Sent back to heaven on a starlight flight
I was gonna have some free curves How it's gonna be a girl
I'm more than just someone that stands for something that you think I am.
There ain't no man who's ever gonna be what I was gonna be Some don't believe I'm a living soul
Just a bad mistake that needs to go I'm a living soul
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching!
30.
30 maybe.
This is Rudy Giuliani back with you, and I have with me Congressman Tim Burkett from Tennessee, who is on foreign affairs and several other- It's actually Burchett, like the tree.
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But the most important thing is he's on the oversight committee.
Yes, sir.
Which means this Monday, he and his colleagues will be questioning, as we should, the unbelievable things that went wrong that led to almost the death of our candidate and, God willing, our next president.
Yes, sir.
I, you know, we've, I, I, I was, I was the person in charge of arresting Hinckley.
Yeah, I remember that.
And not only that, I did an after-action report with Judge Webster, who was head of the FBI, on what the Secret Service did right and wrong.
And when I think about it, I can remember pretty well, because you don't have many experiences like that.
There weren't too many things they did wrong.
Right.
I mean, it was one of those things that... It was just right there in between the seams.
Yeah, almost every... You know, I wouldn't say you couldn't... You always can prevent it when you look back on it.
Right.
But this is... From the first moment I saw him pulled up with his face right there, and I'm not talking about when he did it.
Right.
That's hard to prevent.
But when they did it, they brought his face up.
It's like, here, shoot him.
I don't get it.
And then the chaotic exit.
I'm going to ask you about it.
Yes, sir.
So what do you have to look at?
How do you analyze something like this?
It's going to be really important to do a good investigation of this or we're going to have conspiracy theories forever.
Oh, yeah.
And the government's not doing anything to help us with this crazy delay.
The guy has no internet.
Here's my, Mayor, my major question is, why was Trump allowed to even come on stage when they'd spotted this guy ten minutes before?
And they allowed Trump to be on stage ten minutes?
He had a rangefinder.
Now there's only two reasons you got a dadgum rangefinder, Mayor.
One is to play golf, and there wasn't no freakin' golf course out there.
The other is to sight in a rifle.
Now, why did they allow Trump to walk out and be on stage that amount of time?
Why, after he was shot, was he still laying there?
And they, you know, you've been there in those situations.
I've been there.
If you listen to the mic, they go, we're going to move him in three, two, one.
And they just laid there.
And, you know, and then President Trump, that iconic picture of him.
And there was an agent who was head and shoulders shorter than him.
You know that situation.
You shouldn't see pink.
You shouldn't see any skin at all.
I was shocked when I saw his face come up.
What the hell are they doing?
Yeah.
And then- And it's Trump being Trump, but you just gotta take it over.
No, no, no, I'm talking about they brought his face up first.
Yeah.
I can understand the problem in trying to keep him down.
I mean, it should have been every agent within a quarter mile.
Yeah.
It should have been right there on that, standing up.
Because when they shot Reagan, you remember, one agent, and God bless him, he ran at him,
At the assassin.
Right.
And he took one right in the head.
And he stood up.
And that's what you gotta do.
That's what their job is to do.
Right.
It's not some DEI hiring thing.
And I don't care.
You can put a pink unicorn on there, brother.
But you better make sure they're tall enough to cover the president.
Absolutely.
And you saw when Lee Greenwood sang God Bless the USA and they brought him in, there wasn't, those guys were 6 foot 5 at least.
Yeah.
It was the A team.
Yeah, I mean, you even could have organized it so the tall ones were in front and the short ones in the back, and they had the other way around.
Absolutely, 100%.
And a couple, unfortunately, of the female agents looked like they panicked.
I mean, one was running around like a chicken without a head.
Yeah.
And the other one couldn't put the gun on her.
Couldn't holster, and there was one that was hanging out behind that, like they were cowering down the pile, behind the pile of people.
Now, you compare that to the Reagan exit, it was seamless.
Boom.
Well, they almost broke President Reagan's ribs, if you remember, because they got him into the limo so fast.
They laid on top of him two agents until they got out of there.
That's actually what he thought his pain was coming from.
Right, you're right.
And they were taken to the White House and the agent saw the blood and realized, oh, it's worse than that.
Do you remember when they...
They took him in, oh, it's classic Reagan.
And he said, he was joking around, he said, I hope all you doctors are Republicans.
I mean, that's classic Reagan.
His doctor said everybody's a Republican today.
In fact, he was a Democrat.
Yeah, he was.
And he became a Republican.
Yeah, well, I'd say he probably did.
He did.
Unless he wanted socialized medicine.
No, but there's so many questions, Mayor, that need to be asked that are looming out there.
What about the thatched roof?
That's totally absurd.
The agents can't go on a thatched roof, but the killer can?
Yeah, it was a sloped roof, and I've got pictures of cows that go on sloped roofs.
You know, and they said they can't stand on sloped roofs, but if you look at Secret Service on the roof of the White House, I mean, dadgummit, Mayor, that thing's like at a 45.
This thing was like this.
Well, he got up there and navigated it, and the reality is the first thing you do when you want to secure a crowd, if you have a high ability to have height, you put people up there even to watch the crowd.
Not just to prevent a sharpshooter, but the best way to watch any problems in the crowd is from above.
Absolutely, and there was no aerial photography.
We don't have a drone.
I was going to ask you, did they at least have drones?
We don't think they did.
There wasn't a helicopter in the air either, obviously.
Theoretically, this all comes after they told him that there was, well, they didn't quite tell him.
They said there was another threat.
There's a dispute as to whether they actually told the Trump team, but there was an Iranian threat that they Yeah, and then they asked the head of the Secret Service about that, and she admitted that they did not enhance the thing.
But originally they put out that they did enhance it.
Yeah, I've seen her interview and she would not admit that they enhanced it.
Well, if they enhanced, they must have put one more on.
I would hate to see what they looked like before the enhancement.
When I was counting the Secret Service agents, I was saying, this is totally ridiculous.
You know, when they were trying to get him out, and there was a SWAT team, I think it was, that rushed in, kind of.
And I don't blame the agents.
You've been around those folks.
They're very patriotic.
Most of them God-fearing folks that give their life for this country.
It's a leadership issue to me in that regard, but you still got to know why he was not brought out when they knew that person was on the roof.
I'm wearing their pin today for the agent.
Not for the leadership.
No, no.
But for the agent.
Cuz they're taking a bad lick.
They're taking a bad hit in the face.
And also, the Secret Service has not explained to me yet why they tried to fix the Hunter Biden gun case.
And showed up at the gun dealer and tried to strong arm him into giving him the records.
And the gun dealer was gutsy enough to say, the hell with you, I'm not gonna give him to you.
This goes, I know why you're here.
Yeah.
Well, and I'll tell you this, too.
You remember the cocaine in the White House?
Of course I do!
That little bag that moved from one end of the White House to the other.
I was in on that.
I was in the skiff when they came to brief us, and they said this is not classified.
So I just walked out.
I walked out in the middle of it.
I said, this is ridiculous.
They had that cocaine, and then they destroyed it, and then they showed a picture of it in the lockbox, but the door was open, and the lock had not been jimmied.
And then they said, well, how many people do you think could have had access?
We're down to 200 people.
This was on a Wednesday, and they said, we're calling the investigation off Friday.
It's effectively over.
And you could tell, you and I are in this business, we read people.
That's what we do, all day long.
You're better at it than I am, I'm sure.
But I saw those agents, Mayor, and I can tell the disgust and the shame that they were having upon their sword.
It's a small circle of people, very loyal people.
You've been around them a bunch with Trump.
I don't see them as often as you do.
They're very loyal people and they don't deserve this.
Of course they don't deserve this.
But the leadership is allowing it.
She, I mean, she has a significant, doesn't she, wasn't she Jill Biden's?
Yeah, she covered, yeah, she was a friend of Jill Biden's, apparently, but she was also Cheney, she was on his detail.
She was with Secret Service for like 27 years and then she went and worked for Pepsi, guarding Fritos, I guess.
and uh... or mountain dew, I'm not sure. And then, and then they brought her back and then
you know he said I'm gonna, and then the first thing she said, she said she was gonna have by
a certain date 30 percent of the hires were going to be women. You know, not 30 percent of the hires
are going to be great people, but they're just going to be women. And that's that's how we got
who we got in that position. That's how we got who we got in the vice president's position.
You know, even if this attempt had considerably fewer unbelievably gross mistakes, I think a Secret Service director would resign.
In shame.
Just that honor, you know, like.
I'm gonna fall on my sword.
I bet in Japan they'd resign.
All right.
Just resign.
Commit Harry Carey.
I'm not gonna say she has to do that.
No, no.
But, and her explanations indicate that there's an awful lot of dissembling going on.
Yes, sir.
And that's not being kind.
No, no.
I mean, it's really, so it can be quite a hearing.
Nobody's uncovered more corruption in this world than you have.
I'm constantly amazed, and I wish my parents were alive to see me sitting here with you.
It would be a really cool thing.
My daddy was I'm a World War II Marine.
My mama flew an airplane during the Second World War.
They were Depression-era people.
Had me and my brother and sister very late in life.
And they stood for what's right.
And I want to thank you, brother.
Good job with you, Congressman.
I don't know, brother.
I don't know, man.
But I tell you, you were so kind to me at the White House back in the day.
I always remember that.
I'll keep that picture in the selfie you allowed me to take when we just talked.
You found out I was a mayor.
And we just talked about mayor stuff.
Mayors make good congressmen.
Yeah, I hope so.
The others don't have enough experience.
No, they really don't.
They really don't.
Give me one on that.
You're right, brother.
Great.
So do you feel good about this election?
Yeah, but I want to tell you, I always remember Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton was a draft dodger.
It was before we knew Hillary was a horrible person.
Remember, he went to England to escape the draft.
And so we were all cocky, and there my daddy is, a World War II veteran.
We're thinking, there's no way this country is going to elect a draft Dodger president of the United States.
Yeah, but he never inhaled.
Yeah, he never inhaled.
Anyway, well, I can remember on election night, I was a state house member, and daddy and I were sitting in our house enjoying a traditional Italian meal, which was a pizza that we bought for six bucks somewhere.
And we had this little TV, and we were so proud of it.
It was color, and it weighed about 150 pounds, but it was high-tech.
We had it on the living room table.
Mama didn't like that, but she wasn't there.
So we were watching TV, watching the results, and Daddy said, I'll say the blessing.
I said, all right, Daddy.
And he said, Lord, please don't let us lose our country.
Yeah.
And I thought, man, I soaked that up, because I say that prayer now, and I don't worry about it.
Now it's one or the other.
Not at all.
We could lose our country.
You're damn right.
They weaponized against us.
Parents who have the audacity to question school systems about their kids being taught pornography are called domestic terrorists.
Pro-life Catholics are called domestic terrorists, wanting to defend life.
Look, man, it is so far past it.
Please do not get cocky.
Please, please vote in the presidential race.
I get that, the Congressional Senate.
But listen, those local races, these mayors, these city councils, these school board members, my gosh.
Hold them accountable.
Hold them accountable.
Thank you, Mayor.
Well, Congressman, God bless you and good luck on Monday.
I'll be listening with bated breath.
Don't hold your breath.
We still have a long campaign to go.
Absolutely.
That's why I keep saying this.
This is a pep rally.
The game's Friday, folks.
We got this pep rally right now.
A lot more protection going forward.
Yeah.
I think Biden's out.
I think it's going to be a whole new game.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Biden is out and it's going to be interesting to see how they negotiate the Kamala.
Who do you think it's going to be?
I think it'll be Kamala.
Do you?
Ultimately.
Ultimately.
I still think the governor of California is horrible as he is.
He cut a deal with Hollywood and he said, I'm going to give you benefits when they go on strike.
You think it'll be him?
That's what I think, because I think Hollywood will recreate him.
He's a good-looking guy, he's charismatic, but he's a failure as a governor.
He's wrecked that once-great state, because they're all coming to Tennessee.
Well, the more battling they have, the better, right?
I agree.
So let's hope they really battle.
Yes, sir.
That's what I'll root for.
Well, good luck.
Thank you, brothers.
Good luck.
God bless you.
God bless you, brother.
Thank you.
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And therefore, we're gonna ask him a very timely question, and he probably has the most current and best information about it.
So is Biden, I mean, it's gonna happen.
Yeah, it sounds like it's gonna happen.
Has it happened?
I mean, there was a rumor actually, I guess it wasn't true that he had already resigned.
Yeah, I don't think he has resigned.
I think he may stay in the presidency, by the way, and not turn it over to Kamala Harris.
Oh, we're gonna have his finger near the button?
Yeah, but we're not gonna let him trust him in the campaign.
Figure that one out.
That's a hard one to understand, right?
Yeah.
First off, let me say what an honor it is to be on with you on the show.
I'm such an admirer of all your hard work.
What I've heard in the last hour from two senior White House officials is that the President is nearing the decision to step aside.
It could come as early as Saturday.
Is it because he has COVID?
Well, I don't think that's going to be the issue.
I think it's because his numbers have COVID.
They're so far down.
I mean, they're just not recoverable.
And I think that's what's really going on.
He's going to step aside.
He's not going to endorse a successor, which would leave for an open and free primary.
That, of course, leaves Kamala Harris a little bit, I guess, insulted, maybe politically speaking.
And then he'll let a free fall out.
He'll stay president under the current scenario.
Now, that could change.
My sources warn that it's very fluid.
But right now, the president has moved from adamantly not stepping aside to resign, that he's going to have to step aside.
It could come as early as Saturday.
No endorsement.
It'll be a free for all.
And Barack Obama, I guess, will have to reorchestrate his party one more time.
And does this mean that it really will be a free for all?
Or, from my point of view, the freer the free for all.
Oh yeah, listen.
Please guys, have plenty of chaos.
Yeah, get popcorn and stay out of the way if you're a Republican, because it's going to be a great movie.
Absolutely.
It sounds like, you know, an orderly transition would be if they just, you know, swallowed hard and said, okay, Kamala, you know, let's pick a VP and let's see what we can do.
That may actually be where they end up, right?
Because there's some legal issues here.
First off, what do you do with $200 million sitting in a bank account?
If Kamala's not the nominee, that gets unusable, at least for the presidential campaign.
Secondly, there are some state deadlines.
Well, they'll find a way to just completely violate the law and use the money.
Alliance will be busy at work.
Yeah, they'll find something.
Yeah.
But those are the big issues.
You know, it's interesting that everybody, we wanted Kamala Harris four years ago and
you hear no one making the case for her right now on the Democratic side, right?
It's crazy.
But then overlooking her is going to be very, I mean, overlooking her and pushing her aside
is going to be, especially, particularly with the vulnerability of the black vote right
now.
Right.
She's going to become an oppressed black woman in an ideology of the Democratic Party, where whites are the oppressors.
Obviously, we don't believe in that, but that's their ideology.
How are they going to spin that story?
I don't think... Do they have a black substitute?
I mean, that could... I don't think so.
I mean, there's a... I'm trying to think of... I mean, obviously, it's the Prince of Bel-Air, right?
Yeah, we're not going to see Will Smith.
We're not going to see Will Smith.
No Hollywood people.
No, no, no.
Mr. Hollywood, you know.
Oh, no.
Gavin Newsom.
Oh, yeah.
Gavin Newsom.
Witless.
Governor Witless, yes.
Witless, yes.
Who else?
The guy- Maybe Andy Beshear in Kentucky, and keep an eye on him if they want to move the party to the center.
But that's going to be very frustrating to the left.
They may be even more frustrated with an Andy Beshear than they are with a Joe Biden right now.
Oh my goodness, yeah.
I don't see the left, even the not as crazy left, accepting that.
That's right.
You know, people think maybe Barack Obama gets put on as the vice president.
There's some legal issues with that, though maybe they don't have a problem with that.
That is a fascinating legal issue.
Unresolved.
It's unresolved.
Yeah.
Unresolved, and I don't know how the Supreme Court resolves that in, you know, you'd almost have to resolve that before the election.
Absolutely.
You can't let it go beyond.
You may have to resolve it very quickly in the summer here.
So, yeah, listen, it's going to be a free for all.
It's going to be the greatest movie politics ever wrote.
What about Michelle?
Well, I take David Axelrod at his word, that Michelle Obama does not have the belly to do this and doesn't want to do it.
David Axelrod knows the Obamas better than anyone, and he's very careful when he makes predictions.
I've talked to a lot of people around former President Obama, and they've never felt that she's had that burn to do it.
Could that change?
Could some incredible offer come in to make it possible?
Sure, she'd be a formidable candidate reputation-wise, but she's never had a glove laid on her because she was the first lady, I imagine.
I don't know how it would work out, but on paper and on all the polling, she's the only one who's a real problem.
One of them could become a problem.
I never predict something like this until it happens.
And you know, the media will take whoever it is and make them into a prince or a princess.
Yeah, we've seen that routine a few times now, haven't we?
And they will find a way to reignite their demonization of the man they almost got killed.
No, I mean, it's extraordinary.
Yeah, listen, President Trump polls well against everyone right now, and so they know that, and if Michelle Obama's off the table.
I've heard one interesting thing, and this is only one wing of the party.
There's about six or seven wings now.
It's like a godfather meeting of the mafia.
But one wing of the party thinks you keep Kamala Harris, so you don't deal with the issues of race and DEI, and you bring Whitmer on, and you have an all-women ticket, and you just lay into abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion 24-7.
That's one part of the party.
So it will be an entirely killed babies platform.
Let's kill as many babies as possible so that we can continue in the black community in New York, there are more aborted children than children who were born.
We're going to go into the next generation that way.
But that is one thing that they're thinking of.
I think it's going to take a few days.
When they pass the abortion law in New York, which goes up to the Right.
Yeah, I know.
right?
Right.
Killing six month old, seven month old, eight month old, they all applauded.
At least you would think there'd be some sadness attached to it.
Yeah, they've come a long way from the Bill Clinton era.
Yeah, they're joyous destroyers of seven, eight and nine month old fetuses.
Yeah, listen, a few years ago I was able to get these reports out of the state of Minnesota.
They're called the Born Alive Reports.
They were required by the legislature, and every year there are four, five, six children born alive in a failed abortion, and then they're left on a table with no sustenance to die.
Every year.
Now, the legislature recently got rid of that because they realized that reporters were getting onto it.
But that's the culture.
When the Democrats say they don't support that, there's living proof in a state document.
And the only one who had the guts to say it, I mean, a horrible thing, was the governor of Virginia, right?
That's right.
The governor.
Yep.
Prior to, before Youngkin.
The blackface one.
Northam.
Yeah, Governor Northam.
The one with the blackface.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
So we got just a few more minutes.
And the acceptance speech.
Yeah.
It can be very interesting.
I mean, he does promise something different.
Yeah.
When I've talked to him since it happened.
I have to say, there's something different in his voice.
I think that's right.
I mean, I've gone through this with Bernie Kerrick, where we found out later that we almost died.
We didn't know at the time we were going through it.
We didn't have time to think about it.
We got out, the governor told us he thought we were dead.
That's 9-11, right?
Yeah.
The governor told us, I thought you were dead.
They've actually made up orders to have somebody else take over the city.
Oh my goodness.
Uh, but even when he said it to me, I sort of, ah, what's the... Then when I saw the building fall down, and I remember where we were, and I said, oh my goodness, if it fell just a little bit this way, we're gone.
Yeah, you're gone.
You really do start to look at things very differently.
Yeah.
It's a different, I mean, you don't know what it's like until you have the experience, and he, uh...
I mean, that was a pretty shocking experience.
It was.
There's no way that it can't affect you as a person.
It also affects the rest of us.
You know, I think we're so used to President Trump being so impervious.
He's so tough.
He's the tough guy.
I like the Teamsters guy said the other night.
But when you see that bandage on the ear, you're all reminded that, hey, we're all human at some point.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think I think he's become of early significant.
A significant moment in our history.
And it's what we need right now.
We need someone with that kind of courage and leadership ability, natural leadership ability.
I think that's what people are crying for.
That's why you see the movement towards him so much.
They want someone that's firm and tough and not constantly appeasing young people.
And what happened on Saturday, you don't have time to fake it.
No, that's right.
Isn't it true?
You're either a coward or you're brave.
Yeah, that moment says iconic.
That's how you find out.
Yeah.
We're going to the stage, okay.
The president's out there already.
Look at that.
How about that?
He's not gonna do his speech yet.
No, he'll take a seat for a while.
Yeah.
But he's in the house, look at that.
You know, everyone else spends hours preparing for their speech.
He's comfortable.
Yeah, he's always comfortable on stage.
He doesn't even need preparation, does he?
No, he doesn't.
He really doesn't.
He's better without it.
What made you think that he felt a little different after the show?
His voice, right?
Well, first of all, he did talk about God.
We both talked about it.
About God sparing him.
I talked about my experience and his.
It was the tone of his voice.
It was more serious.
More reflective.
And he told me right straight away he was going to give a different speech.
Yeah.
And even from the day after he said he was going to, right away he decided I'm going to do a different speech.
Yeah, he rips it all off.
I couldn't believe it.
I had worked on the first one.
It's gone.
It's in the circular now.
I see Claudia Tenney, a great New Yorker out there in the background next to the president.
Yeah, pretty amazing.
Yeah, it's very interesting who he picks to put with him.
There's a lot of thinking that goes into that, isn't there?
Yeah, and I thought the candidates, you know, like Rubio and being with him and Burgum, the ones that weren't selected, it was very, very nice to see that they were all enthusiastic, on board.
You've been to a lot of these.
And united.
You've been to a lot of these.
This is the best convention I've seen.
That's what I was going to ask you.
It's more united than anyone you've ever been to, right?
I've been to nine and I've never seen anything like it.
No, I've never seen a convention that has so clearly delivered a message, whether you agree with the message or not.
And has been as unified legitimately.
Sometimes they'll do a sort of a show of unity.
Right.
But you get the feeling that these people love him.
They feel he's their only hope.
And I think he solidified that with what happened on Saturday.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think there's something unseen in politics.
We're not going to finish that way.
I'm going to ask you about the Secret Service and how could they have screwed up that much?
I don't know.
Well, listen, I have the Secret Service pin on today.
I have it on for the agents.
Yeah.
Not for the leadership, because there's so many good people there whose reputations- You know, you've been with them, you know.
Of course I have, and I handled the Hinckley case.
Yeah, that's right.
And I remember, I can remember almost in detail how orderly that was.
Yeah.
And of course there were some mistakes there, but they were, compared to this, there were no mistakes.
Yeah, no, that's right.
The whole thing looked like complete chaos, and it shouldn't look like that.
It should look just the opposite.
Listen, it's not the agent's fault.
Not covering the roof?
Yeah.
They were under-resourced, that's what I'm hearing, and significantly so.
So much so that I think some people thought about maybe even suggesting to the president they needed to cancel the event.
They didn't want to do that.
You mean they were under-resourced with that particular event?
Right.
I mean, listen, the Secret Service has lots of resources.
I don't want to suggest they don't.
And this is after they had an Iranian threat.
They did.
And originally said they increased, but it turned out they were lying about that.
They didn't increase it.
No.
And you know an outdoor vent's a harder one to secure.
You need more bodies.
Right.
They left that building outside the perimeter of what the Secret Service's primary responsibility was.
But you know something?
Not a tough area to secure.
No.
Particularly if you took that building.
That building was a tremendous resource for surveillance.
That was the perfect shooting purchase.
I mean, but even forget the shooter.
Yeah.
I would have thought of that as, that's where I want to put my people to look in the crowd.
Yeah, I think that's exactly right.
That building, it was a building over here and a building over here.
You've got that whole crowd covered.
Oh, you do.
It wasn't that hard.
Jim Jordan tonight, or this afternoon, announced that there are several Secret Service agents that have come forward as whistleblowers, and they provided the diagrams and the concerns that agents were expressing three, four days in advance.
I think that's going to be a major twist in this case.
You have agents coming forward to Congress saying, here's what happened, we're embarrassed.
They knew they were under- She really, I mean, she really has given awful explanations.
The roof was sloped?
I mean, come on, really?
Secret service?
The killer could do it.
That's right.
If the killer could do it, the secret service should be able to do it.
That's exactly right.
You wouldn't buy any of those excuses if you were in charge.
No, and remember, we've got a long campaign to go.
I can't believe this woman is going to survive.
I think she ends up being forced out, don't you?
Yeah, I think if a new candidate comes along, Biden is kind of stuck with her.
She was Jill's- Right, Jill's friend.
But if a new candidate comes along, the candidates themselves are gonna say, get her out.
My God, we gotta have a professional there.
Yeah, I think you're right.
There's too catastrophic a failure for it not to be a resignation.
Well, John, how does it feel to have been totally vindicated?
It feels good.
We always knew then we were right.
Of course we did.
Facts are a stubborn thing.
All our conspiracy theories came true.
We should get a t-shirt like that.
Rudy and John.
Good to see you Mr. Mayor.
Good to be with you.
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The beef industry takes another blow as cricket burgers win America's best burger for the
fourth year in a row.
This comes after many major beef processing plants have shut their doors for good.
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