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March 19, 2024 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (E367): EU & The West Blast Russian Elections, but Silent on Trump Persecution
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Thank you for joining us on another live and exciting episode of America's Mayor Live on this very, very busy, busy Tuesday evening.
And we're live from Palm Beach, Florida.
We're tracking another Fast-moving stories this evening, of course, starting with this week's Tuesday primary elections.
The main focus this evening, all eyes on the Buckeye State.
That's right, the great state of Ohio.
In the Republican Senate primary, we have a three-way race, which includes Bernie Moreno, who has the support of President Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and a number of other individuals.
And then, of course, you have Matt Dolan and Frank LaRose.
So that's a three-way primary for the Republican nomination for U.S.
Senate in the great state of Ohio.
We're also following some House races in, is it the land of Lincoln?
Illinois.
The state of Illinois is having their primaries.
Florida had some primary elections today.
And then, of course, in California, some special elections that we're following, including the replacement for Former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy.
I almost said Mike McCarthy, but it's Kevin McCarthy.
Mike McCarthy is the head football coach of the Dallas Cowboys and the former head coach of my Green Bay Packers.
So a busy, busy election night in some respects, of course, with both the Republican and Democrat nomination for president kind of being a foregone conclusion.
Some of these down ballot races are what we're following.
So we'll give you some live updates again.
The race we're closely watching tonight comes from the Buckeye State and that is a U.S.
Senate race.
We're also following a number of other top stories and one story I wanted to share with you.
Oh, by the way, the mayor, he'll be here in just a few minutes.
That's what you call a tease, right?
He'll be here in just a few minutes.
I kind of feel like, is it Mr. Stein?
I feel like the gentleman, you know, when you, when you listen to the great Rush Limbaugh, right?
And, and some days, noon, whenever it is that you'd catch, catch the show, I'd often catch it later in the evening.
And you'd, you'd put it on and on come that, that, that British accent, Mr. Stein.
So you knew you weren't going to get Rush.
And this is no, this no offense to, to Mr., I believe his name was, was it Mark Stein or some of the fill-in hosts for Rush Limbaugh.
No offense to them.
These were good people, right?
But it certainly wasn't Rush Limbaugh.
So I kind of feel like that.
But I have good news.
The mayor will be here in, I'd say, under 10 minutes.
He had a very important meeting this evening, and I'm sure he'll share with you some of the details as he sees fit.
But the top story, something I really wanted to talk about and kind of get your opinions on, and join the comments section, join the chat, and let us know.
I'll be reading and listening live.
Uh, about this.
Um, we, we, we want to talk about the similarities between what they are claiming, uh, some of the things that are said about the Russian election.
Right.
And then some of it's true, by the way, I don't want to just say claim.
I mean, this is in no way meant to defend Putin and what he's done and what he's doing.
And, uh, clearly there are, there's unfairness and corruption in Russia with their elections.
But I just wanted to get your thoughts on the West's coverage of this, right?
And the Western media, not just the Western media, a lot of countries in the EU and the West came out, rightfully so, condemning what were likely unfair elections in Russia, yet they remained silent.
They remain silent on how the Biden regime is employing similar tactics to take out his top political opponent, that of course being President Donald Trump.
Right?
We have the Biden regime, first of all, four major court cases in the same year, including the criminal case happening during an election year.
On top of it, this ridiculous Ridiculous judgment in New York, their attempts to bankrupt the man and take away all of his wealth.
But remember, it's not just their attempts to follow through with that, right?
They know what they're doing, and they're getting the headlines they want right now.
It's all part of the plan.
It's all part of this larger effort to keep Donald Trump from getting back into the White House.
And by golly, these people will do anything to keep President Trump from retaking the White House.
Right?
So what we're seeing here in the United States, it should concern us all.
And it really should concern not just supporters of President Trump.
If anything, it should cause those who don't support him to stand up and speak up, as any true American patriot would do.
Right?
You'd speak out against what's happening here.
This great injustice against President Trump.
And it goes without saying what they're attempting to do to Mayor Rudy Giuliani, right?
And the way they're coming after him.
These folks are.
They will do anything.
They'll do anything to maintain power, hold on to power.
They didn't like President Trump.
We caught them with their pants down in 2016.
That's the only reason President Trump was able to win that thing without the amount of shenanigans we saw in 2020.
Oh, but these folks, look, they're not the brightest people, right?
So we caught them off guard.
They don't understand the American people.
They didn't.
They missed the whole thing in 2016.
But they certainly weren't going to let it happen again in 2020.
Right?
They certainly weren't going to let it happen.
And that's why you saw such a concerted effort by big tech, academia, the media establishment, Hollywood, uh, the entertainment industry.
I mean, I guess the, the, the, the medical community, right?
With this, uh, what we got out of China with the virus and a full throated concerted effort to do anything it took to keep president Trump from winning reelection.
Because President Trump, arguably the first president in American history who was willing to go after the permanent Washington political class, right?
He spoke to the working people of this country.
Look, good paying jobs kept leaving the heartland, right?
Our once great cities and places like Michigan were hollowed out and became shells of their former selves.
And, you know, Democrats blame Republicans, Republicans blame Democrats, but the good paying jobs kept leaving, right?
And here comes along President Trump.
By the way, he's been talking about these issues, these economic issues, whether it's the tariffs, the issues with China, he's been talking about them for a decade.
But he came down that golden escalator in June 2015.
He was willing to go straight up to these Ford Motor executives, tell them to their faces.
We're building these cars here, and these are going to be good-paying jobs for Americans.
If you want to make them overseas, I guess we can't totally stop you, but we can slap a tariff on those suckers."
And he wasn't afraid to say it, right?
He pushed back against what previously was just accepted as the default future, right?
And that's NAFTA, the TPP.
President Trump came along and said, look, we all want Free trade, but it's got to be fair.
Free and fair trade.
And he was the first president that was willing to come out and talk about these things.
Well, folks, look, I could keep talking.
I could go on and on.
I can talk.
I've learned from the best.
But I think we may want to hear from somebody else here.
I think we're here for somebody else who has just arrived in the building.
And so maybe we'll have him come on and make an appearance and then we'll take a quick commercial break.
Why don't you take a commercial break and then I'll come on.
All right.
He wants to come on after the break, folks.
So stay tuned.
And when we come back, I think you'll recognize the person that you're about to see.
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Here we are.
Well, welcome to America's Mayor Live.
With Ted and Rudy.
Ted and the Mayor.
We're together.
And Rudy is just back.
He's just back from Mar-a-Lago.
You know what Mar-a-Lago is.
That's the place the FBI searched and found nothing but made it into a crime.
Yep.
It could be famous in history as the destruction of the FBI.
Really amazing.
How's the boss doing tonight, Mayor?
He was doing great.
He had, he had a whole bunch of people, people there.
They were doing a fundraiser downstairs, one place for Catholic charities.
Oh, wow.
And they were doing another, they were doing another one for, um, uh, uh, a candidate in, in, in, um, not New Hampshire, in Arizona.
Okay.
That involved Bernie and, um, I saw Siggy was on the invite, Kimberly.
Kimberly was involved in it.
I think she was organizing it for Kimberly.
So they had a lot going on.
They had two events.
Plus he was having dinner with Boris Epstein, his staff, and a few others of his staff.
And so it was the usual, very active night.
And here it is.
What is it?
Tuesday night?
Just another Tuesday night at Mar-a-Lago.
And folks, the mayor, he's a humble man, but when, look, I go to Mar-a-Lago with the mayor, right?
And there's nothing like it, right?
I mean, outside of the president, clearly this is the person people want to meet.
And you're so gracious with your time.
You are.
Why shouldn't I be?
I mean, if people want to meet me, if you come up to me and want to shake my hand, I'm available.
If you want to take a picture, I'm available.
I don't see why I shouldn't be.
It's a, it's a compliment that somebody, I don't understand these people who get annoyed.
Oh, I'm really annoying.
If people want to come up to me.
Oh, great.
You should be, you should be happy that people want to come up to you.
You should be really upset when they don't like people.
Nobody wants to come up to Biden.
He has, he has, uh, remember in 2020, he'd have the, uh, they'd have the circles.
Oh my goodness.
And he was the only one in the circle.
You couldn't make that up.
Three people.
That's not even his wife wouldn't come.
We'd have like two members of the press.
Yeah.
It'd be him.
Yeah.
And it's just... Meanwhile, President Trump was filling football fields, football stadiums.
President Trump... He's biting up the most votes in the history of the country.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know who all those stupid people are.
And they used to try and argue... I hope whoever they were that voted for him feel guilty now, what they did to our country.
Isn't that nice?
With that guy.
I mean, so I'll give you... I mean, Lincoln Riley would be alive today had they not voted for him.
Just think about that.
All those 13 people in Afghanistan would be alive today if they hadn't voted for him.
Who knows how many people in Ukraine would be alive today?
There was an article today in one of the papers that points out that Putin, but they don't, they don't point, they don't, they don't come to the conclusion.
They said, for some reason, Putin invaded Georgia.
And then he invaded again now.
They don't point out that there was a period of time he didn't invade, and that's when Trump was president.
Invaded under Bush, invaded under Prince Obama, invaded under Biden, never invaded under Trump.
So you tell me he would have done it under Trump.
Of course he wouldn't.
Those people would be alive.
So the point that I was trying to make back then in 2020 was, this is a life and death decision.
It's not a joke.
It is funny to laugh at him, I guess, when he falls or thinks he saw Franklin Roosevelt four years after he was dead.
It's not so funny when he makes decisions like pulls out the troops before the civilians and gets all the civilians killed, or gives away an airbase 400 miles from China.
That's not so funny.
That's actually more like treason.
But this isn't funny.
This is serious.
For our country, it's life and death.
This guy is an extraordinarily dangerous president.
That's right.
And, um, I don't know if you realize that people think, oh, well, you know, Trump will be better.
Trump is the only one I think that can straighten it out.
I can't, I mean, there probably are some other people in America that can do it.
We just don't know it.
We do know that he can do it.
I mean, he's the only one that can actually sort of flip it around.
Get us back to where we were and start improving again.
And not just that he can do it.
He has the courage to do it.
And he's shown to us that he can.
And he can do it.
Yeah, he's shown us.
I said that tonight in my little speech because I gave a little speech at the fundraiser.
And I said the difference between Trump and just about any other candidate ever before is when you vote for a candidate for president and he's the challenger, you are guessing, right?
You seem like the greatest person in the world, but you don't know what they're going to be like.
And they face those responsibilities, which are awesome.
Here, we know what he's like.
We know what he's going to do.
He already did it.
It hasn't changed at all since 2019, 2020.
When he was president, 400,000 people came in illegally and were vetted at the border.
Under Obama, just this year alone, it's 3.2 million.
There you go.
Want a difference?
There's a difference.
Your money is worth probably 15% less now because of Obama.
Depending on where you are in the country and what you're buying, you're probably spending somewhere between 15 and 20% more, maybe 25 and 30% more, depending on where you are in the country.
You haven't had a raise unless you got a gigantic amount of money because the raises have not kept up with inflation.
And worst of all, Trump left Biden with a world at peace, and Biden's going to give back to him a world that's involved in two wars, either of which could ignite into a major war, if not a world war.
That's unconscionable.
And I just say to the people who voted for Biden last time, make up for your error.
And the damage you did to your country, and vote for Trump this time.
That's right.
That's right.
And Mayor, let's get right into this.
So, you know, the Western media, and rightfully so probably, and a lot of the EU and Western nations have come out hard criticizing the Russian election, right, for not being fair, and they're probably 100% accurate.
However, why aren't these same folks making similar criticisms towards the Biden regime for employing similar tactics?
Look what they're doing here.
They're attempting to lock up the president, President Trump, of course.
They're trying to lock him up.
Four times.
Four times.
Bankrupt him.
Yeah, yeah.
They're on the verge of destroying him and taking his businesses away from him.
Why do they have the right to take his businesses away from him?
Those are his businesses that he built.
This is America.
You don't have a right to take his businesses away.
Tish.
Joke.
Joker.
Has it ever been this bad?
No, I've never seen this kind of political persecution go on in this country ever.
This is much worse.
Go back, sort of reverse it a little and look at McCarthyism.
There's nothing like this.
This is much, much worse.
And there were a lot of defenders of the people who were being unfairly treated.
A lot of people, both left and right, defended the people that were being poorly treated.
And ultimately, it was Eisenhower that really got rid of McCarthy's power, who was a Republican.
Republicans discipline themselves.
Here we have all the Democrats lockstep in favor of all the crazy crap that Biden does at the, at the, uh, the group of idiots like AOC and, or Schumer is, you know, as bad as AOC now.
He wants, uh, just on the verge of winning.
He wants Israel to stop.
Oh my goodness.
So we can keep Hamas alive.
So they can regroup and five years come back and kill and rape another thousand Jewish people.
And he's Jewish.
Even if he wasn't Jewish, it would be absolutely ridiculous position.
And then to say we should have a Palestinian state.
Palestinians are terrorists.
Why should we have a terrorist state?
There's nothing that they've done in the last 20 to 30 years that proves to us That they can run a responsible regime that doesn't support Islamic terrorism.
That's right.
And by the way, who shot RFK back in 1968?
That was an Islamic terrorist.
That was an Islamic terrorist?
Were they Palestinian?
I don't know if he was a Palestinian.
I'll come back to that to confirm this.
I don't remember if he was a Palestinian.
Isn't that interesting?
Sirhan Sirhan, we're talking about.
Yeah.
I, you know, I'll have to do my read.
Obviously I don't want to get that wrong, but it made me think back to even the 1960s, right?
And I mean, these were, that was the era of some very, very, uh, very, uh, high profile assassinations, of course.
And, um, we're looking this up right now.
Who is Sirhan Sirhan, Palestinian?
Yeah, he's from Palestine.
British mandate.
He was born in Jerusalem, British mandate for Palestine.
So he was born, he was born in Palestine before, uh, he was actually born the same year I was born.
He was born in 1944.
And so he was born about four years before the establishment of the state of Israel in what was then known as, uh, the Palestinian part of Jerusalem.
Be sort of like, um, What they now call the West Bank.
Yeah.
That area.
The point being, and you know, one man's actions.
The point is they've been terrorists for a very, very long time, including, I think, I think they were involved in killing the King of Jordan.
They've killed numerous Egyptians.
There's a reason Egypt won't take them in.
Because they, they really, they really come from the Muslim brotherhood.
And the Muslim Brotherhood are the biggest enemies of the Egyptian government and want to overthrow the Egyptian government and establish an Islamic religious government there.
In the case of Jordan, there were a million Palestinians who lived in Jordan.
The Palestinians didn't live in one place.
So there were Palestinians in Jerusalem, like this guy, there were Palestinians in other parts of Israel, but there were as many Palestinians in Jordan and Egypt.
And what happened when Israel started, they were all against it, and they basically all got rid of their Palestinians and stuck them in Israel, and then didn't want to take them back.
Even now, this whole dispute over Rafah, which is at the southern end of Gaza, Rafah backs up to the Egyptian border, and once they get to Rafah, there's no place to go because the Egyptians will have a wall you can't go over.
The Israelis have them cornered and can eliminate a good deal of Hamas, which diminishes their ability to kill Jewish people.
I can't imagine why you would oppose that.
Also, it diminishes their ability to kill Americans, as we see.
They love to kill Americans.
That's right.
And Syrian Syrian is a hero in Palestine for killing Robert Kennedy.
9-11, they had big celebrations in Gaza and the West Bank when they attacked and killed all those people from my city and other places in America.
They almost killed me.
Well, where was the outcry from all these so-called innocent Palestinians as hundreds of Israeli citizens, a lot of them children, young women, taking hostage?
It's not a Palestinian I know of that's condemned what the Palestinians did.
The Palestinians are not peaceful.
It's not ripe for the development of a country.
They are brainwashed from the time they are born to hate Jews, to kill Jews, to destroy Israel, and to hate America.
That's right in their textbooks.
You want to really get angry?
The textbooks are supplied by UNRWA, which is the United Nations Relief Agency, which we now, under Biden, support.
And they hand out textbooks basically urging that we be killed.
And Biden is paying for that.
Trump, who has a brain, stopped those payments.
That's one of the things he, that's one of the things that he Restored.
As he did, lifting the sanctions on Iran, so that Iran, which was suffering mightily economically when he came into office, Iran now has the money to make war.
From us!
From us!
Including a big infusion of cash from Barack Hussein Obama.
And there's a lot of evidence that Iran was responsible for killing American soldiers throughout, maybe both conflicts, but certainly... But after he got that money, after Iran got that money, they sure as hell did kill Americans under Soleimani's direction.
So, I mean, to say that that money assisted them in killing us, money coming from the American president in cash, It's not far from bullseye.
So Mayor, are you confident that we're going to have a fair election this time around?
No, I'm not confident we're going to have a fair election.
I think that we're going to have to be very vigilant and we have to raise every complaint that we see.
They're trying to make it so that you can't surveil the The drop boxes, the federal drop boxes are ridiculous for an election.
We got boxes on the street, picking up votes, like votes are trash.
I mean, we don't even treat a vote like it's important.
We're going to let illegals vote?
You know, in my city, the city council voted to allow illegals to vote in city elections.
Of course, you know, their disregard for the Constitution is amazing.
The New York Constitution says one of the qualifications to vote has to be a citizen of the United States.
I guess the New York City Council doesn't think a Constitution applies to them, nor does the mayor, because Adam signed it.
And, you know, let non-citizens vote.
I think their argument is, well, They can vote in New York City, but it says it's a vote in New York State.
As far as I know, New York City is still part of New York State.
Finally, why would you want non-citizens to vote?
Why?
For what purpose do you want people that haven't declared an allegiance to your country yet, that haven't demonstrated knowledge of your country, to vote?
They don't know the first thing about this.
Democracy is a very dangerous form of government because it rests on people being educated, intelligent, and balanced.
Wow.
And if they're not, if the idiots take over, they can be brainwashed.
Remember, Hitler was elected, Stalin was elected.
Look, Mohammed went out in the desert and convinced all, after the educated Arabs threw him out, The uneducated Arabs accepted him and came back and killed thousands and thousands of people.
Wow, and that's... Sorry, but that's history and the truth.
You will learn if you watch this show that we will tell you the truth.
That's right.
Well, and look, when we get our confidential channel working correctly, we'll do an analysis of the Quran and it'll take your poop off.
Wow, and that brings up a good point, right?
Going through COVID, Mayor, going through it, seeing how President Trump has been
power, right? How some of these things happen. It's very, it's, you know, you read about it,
but then experiencing it with something like COVID.
I really was naive about that.
else, right?
Yeah, I mean, Hitler, there are analogies, particularly with these riots that go on against
the Jewish people, which I never thought I would see in America.
I really was naive about that.
I don't know when, but there was a point at which, even with a Jewish friend who agreed
with me, who were as naive as I was, we're really past that kind of anti-Semitism in
America.
I know when it was, it was back around 2003-04 when President Bush appointed me as chairman of our delegation to the European Conference on Anti-Semitism.
And it was at a period of time, it was held really because of a large number of anti-Semitic incidents that were going on in France, particularly churches, synagogues rather, were being attacked.
And so I went with a group that he named, named by Republicans and Democrats.
I was the chairman of it, which I appreciate to this day.
And I remember, and some of the delegation was Jewish, and I remember thinking, Well, gosh, we're beyond this kind of thing now.
You see the hatred of these people for Jewish people.
Where the hell does that come from?
Harvard, Columbia, Cornell.
These are supposed to be some of the best educational institutions in the world.
Well, they can't be if their students are so misled.
They can't be.
They have to be failing as educational institutions, not just moral education, just history.
There's no historical reason to be anti-Jewish unless you're a fool.
The Jewish people's contribution to history has been among the greatest.
And if you have a respect for history, you would have a great respect for the Jewish people.
But religion aside, just what they accomplished, bringing us the Ten Commandments, bringing us A monotheistic religion bringing us so much of the structure and morality and humanity.
That's right.
And so, you know, so what would you say to folks that are really You know, you hear the word evil sometimes.
You hear people saying, we're going through such dark times, right?
It's almost become spiritual to some folks, Mayor.
What words of comfort can you offer in what appear to really be truly some dark times in this country?
I mean, we have to, you have to reach into yourself and you've got to find God.
You got to find your connection to God.
And then don't be afraid to publicly pronounce it.
I'm not, I'm not talking about religion right now.
Although I think, you know, religion could help, and I think it's declined greatly.
But really, religion helps in that it gives you a connection to God, so you can do it yourself by recognizing that there's a Supreme Being, that you're not the be-all and end-all of knowledge, that your knowledge is limited.
It's limited to The here and now and not endless.
The universe that God created is endless.
And you're just not going to understand all of it.
That's why you have to submit your will to God.
And once you do that, morality comes back.
Then lives become important rather than, you know, I'm thinking about when the New York State Legislature applauded When they passed the late-term abortion bill, here they had accomplished the great feat of being able to kill six, seven, eight, and nine-month fetuses, and they apported for it.
Now, I think that's barbarian to have abortion at that late a stage, but even if somehow you think it's necessary, you can't see it as a happy event.
You've got to realize you're killing a human being.
I mean, you take the child out at eight months.
It's a child.
It's got a brain.
It's going to live.
It's going to live to old age if you let it.
And you're killing it.
How that is a happy occasion or how any of these abortion things are a happy occasion.
Well, it's so clear with the Democrat Party and their leadership, they're not interested in actually protecting human life.
They're interested in using that issue to scare people, to, you know, to use it to manipulate women and people in general, not just women, to, you know, to win votes.
Right.
Right.
And it's just so cynical and upsetting.
And Mayor, I'm not sure how we can overcome something like that because look there's you know this more than anybody uh the the there's there's there's a number of legitimate views when it comes to uh abortion and and protecting life and protecting the you know other elements at play yet the democrat party they're not interested in having a real discussion a sober discussion on what's a very sober issue right they want to scare people and win votes right i mean both both parties have what
One side or the other would say was extreme positions.
But the Democrat Party doesn't have a middle.
Republican Party does.
That's right.
And the minute you allow seven, eight and nine month abortions, now you're in the realm of murder.
Now you're committing murder.
Now you've blown... I mean, for me, that blew... I always had a complicated position, which a lot of people disrespect, but it is really my position, which is that I'm pro-life.
I don't believe people should have abortions, but I do believe that there are people that disagree with me, that have a different moral view.
It's tough because the moral view is over life, But I think in a democracy, you have to allow some scope for that, as well as protection for life.
So you end up with one of these situations where you allow abortion at an early, not agree with it, not happy about it, but you allow it, because other people agree to it, for a limited period.
But then at some point, like 14, 15, 16, 17 weeks, Okay, you gotta make your decision.
You can't be waiting for the child to actually develop into an infant that can survive outside the womb and then, you know, crush its brain.
That's right.
We become a barbarian society when we do that.
I don't know if it's still true, but a couple of years ago, there were more abortions in New York of black children than there were births.
That's an extraordinarily dangerous situation.
And that's such a good point.
The issue of abortion, the stats show it, at least up until recently, how it impacts the black community more than some other groups.
And again, look, when you talk about the issue, you may have had a nuanced position, one that maybe was more towards the middle, and this is historically, right, than some conservatives, but you never celebrated it, right?
In a sober way.
I was always very unhappy.
So I was very unhappy about it.
And when I was mayor, because I had that position of that period of time, I was enormously supportive of adoptions.
So I would have actually started adoption fairs where we would have a day in Central Park.
We'd invite everyone and we'd sort of put out a big booklet of children that were available for foster care, for adoption.
I'll say another thing that just serves me a lot, the New Epoch Times, I guess it was last week's edition, is talking about all of the people who protest abortion who are going to jail under the Nazi attorney general that we have for like 10 years and 15 years and 20 years.
Why?
For protesting abortion.
Not for physical harm to anyone.
Possibly there were one or two situations where they got in people's faces too closely.
Gosh almighty, in politics, that's happened to me a hundred times with protest groups.
But you have to have respect for these people's position, even if you don't agree with it.
These people believe that life begins with conception.
Now, that's not an irrational belief, by the way.
That's not irrational at all.
And that when you do an abortion, you're killing life.
Or, okay, you want to call it potential life.
Life.
This fertilized egg, in a very short period of time, is going to become a complete human being, and you're cutting that off.
That's right.
Whether you want to call that murder or a significant act, it is.
And it has to be treated very, very carefully, very respectfully.
People's views on it have to be respected.
Those that are for it, those that are against it.
But you can't start acting like people who oppose it are crazy.
There's nothing crazy about it.
In my view, they're right.
That's right.
I just, I just, we just, we have a democracy and I respect the fact that there are an equal or larger number of people I believe that there has to be some scope for this, particularly if there's been rape or incest.
But even there, people who say, I'm against abortion, if it's rape or incest, just step back for a minute and think, how does that affect the innocent child?
Why should a life, a potential life, be eliminated because some scoundrel That embryo, an infant, is a totally innocent being.
They didn't do anything wrong.
That's right.
And on that note, Mayor, let's take a quick commercial break, and when we come back, maybe we'll do some updates on tonight's election results.
We're watching the Senate race.
We got four primaries.
See, after Super Tuesday, people get so uninterested.
I know, we're still in this.
Four big primaries, right?
That's right.
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So mayor, uh, some big races tonight, the Buckeye state, uh, that of course being Ohio, uh, Illinois, is that the land of Lincoln?
It sure is the land of Lincoln.
Yeah.
The land of communism now, but the land, it is the land of, that's their nickname, right?
Poor Abe.
I think some people took his, his stature down too.
Imagine taking down the Great Emancipator statue.
That's insane.
Of course... Shouldn't there be a statue built to the white men who died freeing the slaves?
Wouldn't that be nice?
To deal with this sort of white hatred of blacks.
That's quite a bit of hatred that you give up your life in order to free someone of another race.
Not that they shouldn't have done it, but...
You're bringing up a good point.
I wouldn't even make the point if they didn't make the point that we were a bunch of racists, which I find totally dishonorable.
I find it un-American.
I find it unpatriotic.
And I find it completely stupid and ignorant because it belies so many facts about us.
Yeah, we had slavery, but no, we didn't invent it.
You know what we invented?
Having a war.
To free the slaves, because nobody else did it, I don't think.
I don't think any other country.
Oh my goodness.
You're bringing up to free the slaves.
So why not be proud of our country?
Why not go to Gettysburg and look at the graves of those people there and say, my goodness, they gave up their life.
You know, they gave up 50 years of life so that men and women of another race could be free.
And believe me, don't get into the idea that there were other reasons for it.
There were.
But the main reason was slavery.
Just go look at the Declaration of Secession, which first reason?
Slavery.
Look at the Emancipation Proclamation, which Lincoln did three years into the war in order to increase the morale.
People were afraid they weren't fighting for it.
There was a popular movement that, okay, if we're going to lose our lives, let's lose our lives for a cause freeing the slaves.
These are white people we're talking about!
Evil white people!
What an amazing point you bring up, because that's what these... I don't even know what to call them, but that's the big lie, one of the big lies in our nation's history, right?
They have these new, woke, anti... They're really anti-American.
They painted this picture as if slavery first popped up on the scene in the 1800s in the West by white people.
Jews were slaves.
Right?
Jews were the slaves.
Jews were slaves a number of times, actually, but of course the most famous was to the Egyptians at the time of the Passover.
And as you mentioned, they—and then they don't—they ignore the fact that it was, whether it's whites, northerners, it was America That fought a war that shed blood.
You know, this nearly destroyed our very country, but we did it because we as a nation, a majority of us decided slavery was wrong.
Could have lost that war.
I mean, when you think of the first two years of it and Lincoln's terrible problems with his generals, he couldn't find a general that could win a battle.
I remember the great, I mean, Lincoln obviously was a funny guy.
I think all great Leaders have a sense of humor, but to say... Right here?
To say, uh, you know, Mr. President, Grant may have won that battle, but he's a drunk.
He said he is?
Yeah.
I tell you what, get me about 10 more drunks, because my generals are for shit.
And I need really, I need, I need, I don't know a little bit for shit, but my generals stink.
Maybe I need some more drunks.
He said in another line something about his generals were better with a fork and knife than anything else, right?
And I don't even know if Grant really was a drunk, because people go around saying that I'm a drunk.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
This is what he drinks.
It's so totally ridiculous, I don't know.
You know, sometimes they say things about you that are partially true and exaggerated.
Yeah.
You know, but I think, I mean, I don't know where this comes from, that I'm an alcoholic.
I mean, I know the nasty people who started making up the rumor, but it's totally ridiculous.
And I just go along with it and say, I should be in the Guinness Book of Records because I'm the only lifetime drunk that put the mafia away, put Nazis to death, battled the FARC, battled Islamic terrorism.
Help to take New York and the nation through 9-11.
Reduce crime more than any mayor in the history of the country.
I mean, the list goes on.
By the way, we've just scratched the surface on what you've accomplished.
Imagine if I wasn't a drunk!
Well, that's the thing.
Again, Mayor, it's just the tactics that they, you know, it's almost like throwing spaghetti at the wall, seeing what sticks.
I mean... This is really water.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Exactly.
That's really water and that's really a can of Diet Coke.
And so, look, if anything, we drink too much Diet Coke.
If somebody wants to get on our case, maybe we shouldn't be drinking so much Diet Coke.
I do not recommend this.
Sure is.
Sure is good.
So we're rolling right along here.
So, Mayor, the Ohio Senate primary.
OK, let's take a look.
This was a race.
What's the Trump primary look like?
So the Trump primary— Why is Nikki Haley on the ballot?
Why is she on the ballot, right?
Look at that.
Look at that.
Yeah, well, Trump has all 79 delegates.
He's wiping her out, of course.
What is Biden doing?
Yeah, Biden's doing the same thing.
So here's the Senate race.
So, uh, we're following a close... Bernie Moreno is ahead.
Has he been declared the winner?
He has been declared the winner.
That's, uh, Bernie Moreno, a friend of the show and a, uh, someone who, uh, the president endorsed with 31% of the vote reporting.
This is the Ohio... Is that a win?
You don't need a 50% to win that?
44?
That's right.
win that 44 that's right so it's it's Moreno 44% Dolan 35% and LaRose 20
Well, I mean, it was a good spread of Republican voters.
Yeah.
And a good number in a three-way field that looks very competitive.
That's a nice win.
Yeah.
Sounds like Dolan and LaRose were pretty good candidates as well.
That's right.
I mean, those are good percentages.
Yeah.
Shake a stick at?
Is that a saying?
Yeah, and will they be, will they unite?
It sounds like they will.
My understanding is that they will.
And look, with President Trump, you know, Bernie Marino was President Trump's chosen candidate.
And oh my goodness, was there a communist party?
Typical.
I didn't know that Sherrod Brown was a Democrat.
I thought he was a communist.
Yeah, right.
Uncontested Sherrod Brown.
What does that say?
Oh yeah, well of course he ran just like a communist.
Uncontested.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Is this the way they run?
I mean, it's amazing.
Gosh, even Putin made an effort to put a couple of people on the ballot that he didn't kill.
Oh my God.
Here they're not.
I mean, look, they're going to do whatever it takes to ensure President Trump is not able to get back into the White House.
They're taking four shots in one year.
That's unheard of.
You're a prosecutor.
It's ridiculous to get prosecuted four times in one year in major felony cases.
Your lawyer can't possibly prepare all four cases.
I mean, you're deliberately depriving the person of due process by doing that.
But we know, look, they really must think we're stupid.
They really think that we don't know that they're doing that, not because he's guilty of anything, but that this way they will block him from being president.
The things he's indicted for are silly.
They're actually silly.
And when you look at this classified documents thing, Biden did worse.
I mean, Biden, first of all, goes back much further.
Biden's taking classified documents as a senator is not even arguable.
As a president, you have a right under the Presidential Records Act to have a period of time to review these documents.
As a senator, you're not allowed to take it out of the Senate.
It's a crime.
Didn't take it out.
He took it out for what, 25 years or something, 20 years.
It's like taking a book out of the library 50 years ago or something.
And then he put them all in places where the Chinese could get access to.
It's incredible.
Trump didn't do anything like that.
So why is Trump indicted?
Not him, not Pence, not Hillary Clinton.
The guy, Hillary Clinton's, Bill Clinton's guy who stuffed all the classified documents in his jacket.
And took him out of the National Archives.
National Archives didn't yell and scream that he should be prosecuted, just Trump.
That's right.
I don't remember Trump stuffing things in his jacket.
You can't make it up.
Like you said, with Biden, what the hell were these documents doing anywhere near him?
You can't have... I mean, I love the euphemism, two-tiered system of justice, as if that's another alternative way.
You can have a one-tiered system or a two-tiered system.
So yeah, we'll continue to have a two-tiered system of justice.
Republicans go to jail, Democrats don't.
That's a two-tiered system of justice.
If Democrats take classified material or destroy government property, they will be scolded by a special prosecutor who is dishonorable enough to fix a case.
That's right.
And therefore not prosecuted.
I mean, Jack Smith, we've talked about this so many times, but this is the same person who was so unfair towards former Virginia governor Bob McDonnell.
I mean, Bob McDonnell back in the day, they were talking about him being a front runner for the president.
Yeah, he ruined it.
He ruined any future for the man.
And then eventually the man's case was reversed.
9-0 by the Supreme Court grounds failure to state a crime.
So he destroyed his career with a whiff and a puff, and only because he couldn't get appealed on time.
That's what they're trying to do here.
Believe me, they're not even trying these cases like they're worried about whether it's gonna... You look at the Fannie Willis case right now, it's filled with reversible error.
Meaning, should she get to the point of ever convicting him, or me, it would be reversed.
But she doesn't care because if she can get him convicted, which she won't now, I think at this point, before the election, they think that that'll turn the election.
So now what do they have left to do that with?
I don't see how they do it with Fannie's case.
Maybe they can try to do it with Bragg's ridiculous, stupid, idiotic case that he didn't make the right Journal entry with regard to the payment that was made to Stormy Daniels in which they both decided to keep matters confidential.
Nothing illegal about that.
Done all the time.
Divorces very often end with non-dismarriagement causes.
Employments often end with non-dismarriagement causes.
People often pay each other amounts of money for that in order to save their reputation, Even if they're innocent, because the simple reality is, and we all know it, once the charge is made, a certain number of people are going to believe it, whether you're innocent or guilty.
So your reputation is injured with the charge.
Somebody gets charged with sexual abuse, and they prove 50,000 ways that it's not true, there still will be people that say, oh, there's a question about him.
Charging is very, very important.
And what they're hoping to do is to—I think they hoped by charging him they were going to get him.
Yeah.
Instead of charging him, they made him the frontrunner.
Yeah.
Now they're convinced if they can convict him on one of these things, it'll turn around.
And I don't know.
It might turn it around.
We're in uncharted territory.
We don't know what happens if somebody is convicted and no one's ever been convicted.
But it is possible.
That he wins by a landslide if they convict him.
Because one thing that will be true if the case gets tried, the American people will realize he's being framed.
But he's not guilty.
The people testifying against him are notorious liars like Michael Cohen.
Michael Cohen can't tell the truth about what movie he went to.
He can't!
The guy is like... He is incapable.
If I got to cross-examine him, I think I would prove to a jury Michael Cohen is incapable of telling the truth.
He has fun lying.
That's right.
And as you said, he's just one of such a cast of characters that I guess the Democrat Party is willing to use for as long as they're useful to them.
At this point, you know, once the election is over, so is Michael Cohen.
Well, that's the thing.
I hope Michael Cohen and these guys understand that.
Look, they're only as Protected as they are useful, right, to the regime.
And they'll be thrown out of the bus just as... Michael got really, really scared and he ratted.
And when I say ratted, I don't... People who testify against other people and are telling the truth are doing the right thing.
But people who lie to save their skin, well, that's what a rat is.
And he's lying.
I know he's lying to save his skin.
So he's what would be generally called a rat.
And nobody wants a rat around, even the other side.
So the other side keeps the rat for as long as they have to, and then they feed them to the cat.
Yep.
And I think a number of folks, we won't name names, are experiencing that on a number of fronts.
And, you know, look, politics can be a... Yeah.
I mean, who would trust Lynne Cheney?
Yeah.
Liz Cheney, Cassidy Hutchinson, Michael Avenatti... I could go on and on, right?
These are people who have... Michael Avenatti's in prison, isn't he?
Yeah, that guy.
What a bizarre... I just said his name and I'm thinking, that guy's got... what a background... That was a short...
That was a short little window though, right?
Yeah, he went from front runner to president.
And all of a sudden, just out of nothing, because he represents, is his name Stormy Daniels?
Yeah, yeah.
Just because he represented Stormy Daniels, he's going to... And the CBC was thinking he was going to be the next president.
What are your qualifications, Mr. Avenatti, to be president?
I represented a porn star.
Yeah, yeah.
That should really do it.
But you're right, they were... Sort of, just like Jefferson.
Yeah, you wrote the Declaration of Independence at 33 years old, just like Jefferson, right?
Or you wrote the Constitution of Virginia at 27 years old, just like Jefferson.
Jefferson was 33?
Yeah, 33 when he wrote the Declaration.
Don't tell me that.
He was 27 when he wrote the Constitution of Virginia and considered putting in it emancipation of all slaves and was told that if he did it, he would have no future.
And he made a choice.
That he'd be better off having a future and fighting for building in emancipation in a way that it could actually realistically happen.
And I think that was more than just a, uh, like a, uh, a construct.
I think he, it really was the man.
I think Jefferson was a very substantial moral man, and I feel very bad that he is treated the way he is.
Jefferson was a hero of mine when I was very young, very young meaning in my teenage years.
And I read, I just became so interested in him that I read the entire Dumas Malone five volume biography of his.
Wow.
Which is still the best biography of his.
And actually when I say five volumes, each one of them is fairly reasonable in size.
So it really is like a 1500 page book.
When was that written?
Probably about 30 years ago and updated by scholars.
Okay.
But do they use primary material?
Do they go back?
Oh, fabulous.
A lot of the, they use, for example, a lot of the letters between him and his, his wife, who he was madly in love with, uh, a lot of letters between him and Adams, of course, which came in the latter part of their careers when they had, um, well, you can just get a book of the, of the Adams Jefferson letters.
And they described politics in the 1815-16s, the War of 1812, the whole thing.
These two men were friends, collaborated together on the Declaration of Independence, and then became enemies during the Eisenhower, the Washington administration.
Enemies?
Oh yeah, big, big enemies, even bigger than him and Hamilton.
Didn't talk to each other for about 12 years.
And, and Abigail Adams put them back together again because Abigail Adams realized her husband was, was, was a brilliant man and maybe could be regarded as an intellectual snob.
He used to get bored, you know, spending time with dumb people.
So she, the only one that could really challenge him was Jefferson.
So she put them back together and Adams actually wrote about three times more letters than Jefferson.
Really?
Yeah.
And, and they're all good.
I mean, and Adams had an intellect that was quite, maybe not as varied as Jefferson, who was also an inventor, a musician.
So we have a lot of these original letters.
A farmer.
Oh, Jefferson.
Yeah.
I mean, Jefferson built a pulley for his house when nobody knew what it was, where you could bring things up and down to save the energy of the slaves.
This thing like this.
He designed the University of Virginia, designed the capital of Virginia.
He was an architect.
Wow.
John F. Kennedy said early on in his career, in one of his great quotations, when his cabinet assembled, and his cabinet, of course, being the first democratic administration in eight years, was fawned over by the press as usual.
And it was described as, you know, the greatest cabinet ever.
JFK?
Yeah.
The most brilliant minds ever.
McNamara?
Yeah.
I mean, a little, yeah.
Rostow.
I know.
Oh my goodness.
Good.
I mean, it was really very good, very strong people, but there've been cabinets that have been equal or better, but still a good cabinet.
But they were, they were described as, I forgot what the term was, but like, like a cabinet of geniuses.
And he began his, he began his first cabinet meeting by saying, you know, I think this is, there have never been more brains in this room, except maybe when Jefferson sat here all along.
That's good.
That's real good.
You know something, he may have been right.
And I'm not demeaning them.
Oh, you're just, yeah.
I mean, Jefferson was a, it's amazing how, here we are, you know, that many years ago, and we had these extraordinarily brilliant people, Franklin, There's another one.
But Jefferson, Franklin was known as an inventor.
People don't realize what Jefferson, the things Jefferson invented.
And you have to go to his house at Monticello and you'll see a lot of the things that he invented.
I think like even certain kinds of microscopes.
He invented?
Yeah, he was into everything.
He was into everything.
He just had an intellectual curiosity that was soaring.
Who was our last, outside of President Trump, we're not going to include him in this, who was our last, would you say, strong intellectual?
How about in my lifetime, who was the smartest man to sit in the White House?
So my lifetime begins with... When Trump's not a part of this.
We'll take Trump out with Truman.
The single biggest intellect there.
You started with Truman?
No, no, no, you started with FDR.
Yeah, but it was after he died.
Oh no, couldn't be.
Couldn't be.
I started with FDR.
No, FDR, I think, failed the bar exam the first time.
Truman was next?
Truman was always considered too dumb to be president, but I don't think that's true.
He was a very well-read historian.
Can I guess?
Can I make a guess?
I'll let you go first.
I don't think I would put that in that category.
Nixon?
Yeah.
I'd say maybe that's right.
Maybe Nixon was actually just purely the brightest guy.
Uh, now you'd base that on his books, which are excellent.
A lot of his interviews.
I've been watching a lot of interviews.
Even, even the credit given to him by Kissinger, who got a lot of the credit for being the brains of the operation, but said that I was at least matched by the president.
I don't think Kissinger was capable of ever saying exceeded.
But, uh, I, and I knew Henry.
You did?
Well, you had some very good... But, but, um, he... Nixon knew all history.
He, yes, he knew history.
He knew foreign policy.
International affairs.
Kennedy was very bright.
John Kennedy?
Yeah.
And the two of them, the two of them before they became political opponents were friends.
They traveled, they, they traveled the country together.
I think as congressmen.
Debating.
Kennedy and Nixon did.
Debating, uh, was it Taft-Hartley?
One of the, one of the labor bills.
And this would have been in this.
And the idea, and the, this was in the late forties.
Oh, wow.
And the idea of it was, um, both parties agreed that it would be good because eventually it was a bipartisan piece of legislation.
Yeah.
Um, that it would be good because it would educate the American people.
So they went to like, Uh, seven or eight places like, you know, the town hall here and, uh, the, uh, Philadelphia convention center and, uh, uh, wherever, you know, a university in St.
Louis or, and they got on a train and they did a one month tour together.
Wow.
Wow.
Okay.
And I, and in those days you didn't bring lots of aides with you.
Maybe each one of them had one because you wrote your own stuff, you know, They wrote their own stuff?
Sure.
Yeah.
I mean, both of them were very bright.
Uh, Kennedy was very, very, very bright guy too.
I mean, I don't, who knows?
You don't know their IQs and that sort of thing.
But Kennedy was very, very great speaker.
Smart.
Would you say?
Yeah.
Nixon was very, very smart.
Uh, Reagan was much smarter than anyone gave many credit for, uh, probably best.
Exemplified by his love letters to his wife.
I'm sorry we're here in Florida, but I have that in back of me at home.
We'll get those out.
And whenever you have any doubts about the strength of his intellect, you take a look at how good a writer he was.
So what is it in the news that we should finish out with before we call it a night?
So, of course, we're following some elections, some primary elections.
Some of the shine is gone because of presidential contests.
But these Senate races are very, very important as to whether the Republicans can take control of the Senate.
So Moreno is going to run, Moreno is going to run, have the distinction of running against a communist, Sherrod Brown.
That's right.
And Moreno beat two people and Sherrod Brown ran.
Like a true communist city is unopposed, right?
That's right.
So we're following some house races in Illinois and in there's some special elections happening in, uh, actually in California in the, uh, race to replace former speaker, Kevin McCarthy.
No results are being named.
And now of course that happening out West.
So those polls are still.
Open.
So out of all the, all the races here, the key one, of course, the Ohio U.S.
Senate race.
Florida, Trump won by 67%.
Well, that's right.
I mean.
Even with DeSantis still on the ballot?
That's, that's actually, I didn't even think of that.
You're right.
91% of the vote he got.
81% of the vote.
81% of the vote.
DeSantis actually got significantly less.
And Haley, but that that's obviously because Nikki Haley still kind of remains.
My guess, my guess is she will make a point.
She got the anti-Trump vote, whatever it is.
And, uh, the DeSantis vote went to, went to Trump.
That's right.
Um, and so again, some of these are again, not, not a, not a crazy busy night, but the close races to watch in of course, Ohio and, Special election to replace the former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, but we will not have those results until later, of course, uh, considering, uh, that they are on the Republican kind of win that McCarthy seat.
Yes.
Chances are Republican will win that of course in come November, but you're right.
That's a special election.
So we'll want to get the dates on that.
I guess may or some other stories that we could use that vote.
Uh, in this period of time.
Oh my goodness.
That's a huge race.
We're going to, that's a, that's a chance.
I mean, it's conceivable if you lose a couple of these races and people retire that you flip the speaker, the speaker.
That's right.
All the work done to make Johnson speaker.
They'll start, hopefully they would have a big, I don't know.
I mean, I know, I know.
It used to be us as a party, right?
Now it's the Democrats.
The speaker who comes from New York is a really light weight.
Wow.
I didn't like Pelosi.
We're talking true lefty.
Bizarre.
Yeah.
I wonder if he was part of the Workers' Party, which is sort of a communist party.
We'll have to find out.
Hakeem Jeffries, right?
Yeah, Hakeem.
The Democrat Party of today is definitely, certainly not the party of my parents or when you grew up.
I mean, it's a shame because a country is stronger when it has two Good political parties that can debate with each other, like Nixon and Kennedy could do.
Well, while we have you, before we sign off, I have to ask you about RFK.
Not RFK Jr., but Robert Kennedy.
Because, I mean, you admit this back in the 60s, you were a Kennedy Democrat, right?
Sure, I worked.
For JFK.
But I worked for RFK's election.
So you were supporting RFK?
For both the Senate and His election for president.
I was a volunteer on his election for president when he died.
Oh my goodness.
In fact, I was, the night that he was shot, I was going to my first or second day of law review classes to take the bar exam.
You remember where you were when he was shot?
I remember I was, yeah.
But your reaction?
Yeah.
I remember my reaction was, was, um, almost like, uh, How could, I mean, I don't remember if it was almost like anticipated because his brother died or, or what a horrible thing for this family or is there some kind of curse?
Yeah.
I mean, when you think about it, his brother had only, only was killed, you know, four years before.
Yeah.
And, um, and it was only a couple of months after Martin Luther King Jr.
was, was shot and Kennedy made, uh, Robert Kennedy made a great speech the night of, Of Martin Luther King.
That's right.
One of his best speeches.
And he was not considered as good a speaker as his brother.
But he gave a speech equal to his brother that night and was starting to emerge as a really, really powerful candidate.
Still unknown whether he would have gotten the nomination.
Hubert Humphrey had more delegates.
Hubert Humphrey had the heart of the party because Johnson gave it to him, and Johnson hated Kennedy.
But Kennedy had the people, but had run out of primaries.
And he won that primary, of course.
He won the California primary, and he won it, I think, pretty big.
So the thinking was that with that wind at his back, the party, which was not as rigid then in their rules, they could change their votes more after a primary.
But at that time, when RFK announced, LBJ had not yet declared he wasn't running again, right?
because he would have been a better candidate.
Now was Nixon leading in the polls at the time?
I mean, Nixon won that election, but- But at that time when RFK announced,
LBJ had not yet declared he wasn't running again, right?
LBJ was still in the race, I think.
I'll have to check that.
Yes.
LBJ.
And then there was, uh, was it McCarthy or Humphreys?
McCarthy.
The reason LBJ dropped out is that McCarthy didn't win, but McCarthy ran very, very strong in New Hampshire.
Like 44 40, something like that.
Or 35 30 or cause there were a lot of candidates in the race, but McCarthy almost beat him.
Yeah, and Johnson, I think, was depressed.
Really?
I think Johnson was beaten, well, because of the Vietnam War.
At that point, he was an extraordinarily unpopular president.
whether he would have, whether he would have, whether he would have won re-election or not
against Nixon, I don't know. But he, it almost, people didn't like, he was really disliked.
Johnson.
Yeah, Johnson.
Maybe there was even a resentment that he was the president after Kennedy.
That'd be tough.
Among Democrats.
That'd be tough.
Yeah, they don't elect him.
Yeah.
You know, we had Kennedy, this great man.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, what did my, oh no, that's when Jacqueline Kennedy married Onassis.
One of my friends, who you know is really a brilliant guy, calls me up and he says, this is terrible.
This is like Queen Guinevere after King Arthur dies marrying Merlin the Magician.
Okay, we're gonna start.
You know, Kennedy was a handsome, white old man, and Onassis could never be mistaken for an extraordinarily good-looking man.
And a fat wallet.
I'm guessing, maybe.
And fed other things, yeah.
He's a big guy, he's a big guy.
But of course, RFK, when he passed away, now was this actually a quote attributed to him?
His brother, Ted Kennedy, now was this something that RFK said or is this from George Bernard Shaw?
Of course, Ted Kennedy, the great eulogy for his brother, Robert, right?
Where he says, some men see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not?
I don't know if that came, does it say it came from Shaw?
It's being attributed to George Bernard Shaw, which I'm guessing was well before the Kennedy.
But Ted Kennedy is known for saying that line.
But Ted was saying that line, but that was something that Robert Kennedy said about himself.
Yes, yes. But it was alternated with...
But did he...
Yeah.
I would have to go back and see, but I would imagine Robert Kennedy attributed that to...
You know, in other words, he said, as George, as Bernard Shor said, some... he would have
Not the Biden way.
Biden plagiarized Robert F. Kennedy, not the other way around.
Was Ted Kennedy back, back in the sixties and seventies?
Was he considered, I mean, he ended up thinking about running for president, of course.
Was he considered the same people as his brothers?
No.
But immediately upon the death of Bobby, immediately he became a presidential sort of hope.
But Chapaquiddick happened rather quickly.
He probably would have been the nominee in 72 for Nixon's re-election.
They put up Humphrey as well.
So it was the senator who was in the Air Force.
He was really left-wing.
McGovern.
McGovern.
McGovern Democrat.
McGovern was a terrible candidate.
And Nixon just walloped him.
Could, could Nixon have lost if it was a better candidate?
Or was that, was he pretty popular going into, I mean, by then the war was... Nixon was never really popular.
Nixon was respected.
Okay.
Interesting.
I would say the country was pretty happy in 72.
Okay.
So they weren't angry at their president.
Okay.
This is before Watergate.
Yeah.
But it isn't before, before we recognized Watergate.
Yeah.
Watergate happened before the 72 election.
It happened during the 70s.
That's right.
So he... A very large measure, a stupid thing, because why the heck did the Republicans have to go steal material to beat George McGovern when, you know, Howdy Doody could have beaten George McGovern.
Yeah.
Because he was such a bad candidate.
And two... I mean, the Democrats have beaten Goldwater very badly in... 64.
In 64, the year that... And what they had going for them was The death of JFK, and a candidate that the press had made extreme right-wing.
Who was it?
Oh, that's right.
They turned him into... McGovern?
I mean... Rockefeller didn't help.
Rockefeller didn't help.
Rockefeller didn't support him.
Rockefeller, even after he became the candidate, never really supported him, which helped to isolate him.
You mentioned you gave that famous... Yeah, which helped isolate him even more to the right.
But McGovern really was very, he was probably up to that point, the most far left candidate that they had, because now they had become, because of Vietnam, a kind of anti-war, anti-military.
and it even though even though Watergate kept them alive the Democratic Party
started to die with Carter Okay, okay.
And Clinton revived it for himself, but an amoral, immoral man that didn't bring any dignity to the office of, in fact, embarrassed the office of the presidency, right?
Yeah.
And then Obama, of course, people can have different views on, but my view was until Uh, Dodo came along.
He was the worst president we ever had.
Oh yeah.
Uh, it seemed to me like he hated our country.
Uh, the minute he becomes president, he goes and apologizes for us all over the country.
His wife, uh, becomes happy with America for the first time, which is a terrible slap in the face towards the racial divisions.
I mean, I once said, I didn't think, I didn't think that, um, that Prince Obama loved America because I never heard him say it.
And I was used to every president during their speeches, whether it was a Republican or a Democrat talking about how much they loved America.
I don't ever remember.
I never, I never remember Obama talking about the good things about us ever.
Right.
And when the damage that that's done, I don't think he believed that there were good things about us.
I think he borrowed from his father, this colonialist image of the United States.
And just carried it forward.
And I think that Biden is carrying it to an extreme.
Now there are reports that Biden is jealous of Obama.
I didn't catch exactly what he's jealous of.
I mean, he is better looking and he has a brain.
Those are things he could be jealous of.
He knows who he is.
Obama knows who he is.
Does he really know he's Joe Biden anymore?
I mean, a couple of times when he was running a couple of years ago, he thought he was running for the Senate, remember?
Well, I'm just sitting here thinking, can you imagine if I was sitting... He may think he's a senator.
He might.
Imagine him having this discussion about presidential politics and history.
Can you imagine if I was sitting here trying to talk to him about the presidency and the 1960s and the 70s?
I mean, we covered back Jefferson and Adams and we talked about Lincoln.
The 60s and the 70s.
My best friend here.
His best pals, all those Southern segregationists.
Wonderful Cyclops.
What a Cyclops he was.
Oh, yeah.
He used to tell me stories about when he was the Cyclops.
They used to hang... The last Cyclops before we go.
Black, black, black people.
Oh, I have to get up now.
I'm sorry.
Which, which way do I, which way?
Which direction?
Well, we can't, well, the president, president Trump says it's too merry.
Where's the, where's the, where's the, where's the bathroom?
So of course the media, if you did that.
No need for the bathroom.
Hold your nose.
Pope, we have a lot of, we have a lot of fun.
Who's Pope?
How did, I got to ask you this being from Michigan.
I hope the Pope can't smell.
I don't know if it's true, but you look at the expression on the Pope's face.
And by the way, I mean, yeah, that's it.
It has to be, even though the Pope may be a communist and therefore appreciate Biden, it's got to be the Pope who always, the Popes are always very, very bright because they go to the seminary and they study theology and they speak five
languages and you gotta win that secret vote.
You gotta know you gotta be smart. Yeah and the College of Cardinals, the College of Cardinals,
although political in many ways, is filled with very, very well-educated people. So when he meets
him he must think, I don't think he knows a lot about America or likes us very much for that.
I don't think so. He must think, boy they really are a stupid country. Yeah. They really are new,
This idea that they're a new country is really true.
Boy, they're going to need a lot of help.
They elect jerks like that.
Talk about an argument against democracy, right?
They represent guys like that.
Jesus, I'm 10 years older than him.
I get around better than he does.
It's, it is absolutely.
It's baffling, man.
We laugh about it, but I, I, I pinch my, I cannot believe the state of things and how he's.
I know, I know her name.
I know her name.
But look, there is a precedent for this.
The way the press protected FDR, for example.
The way the press protected even JFK.
I know her name.
Lincoln Riley.
Lincoln, see?
It says Lincoln.
Did you meet him tonight?
Lacon.
Lacon.
No, is that old?
No, no, I haven't met him tonight, yeah.
Oh, stop it.
That's Judge Michael Warren from Michigan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a good friend of mine.
Yeah.
He was at- He wants to be on our show, yeah.
Did he?
I had promised him.
I had promised him.
A year ago?
When we were in Michigan?
I had promised him when we were at the restaurant.
Remember?
Yeah.
I'm surprised he's not on the show.
And I haven't, so I'm going to put him on it.
Is he?
Yeah, he was, he was at the, he was at.
Was Mark there?
Yeah, Mark was there.
And he was, he was at the fundraiser for the, for the Congresswoman.
Well, we'll follow up with that after the show.
Well, Mayor, I mean, one more question I have to ask you.
I mean, this has turned into a little history lesson.
Putting me through.
Last one.
How did Ford lose to Carter?
I was not supposed to take any questions tonight.
They told me.
Let me see.
This is him playing another person, but the media tomorrow.
I was supposed to call just on Robert.
That was just Robert over.
But I called on 3 p.m.
Oh, I hope Jill doesn't hit me tonight.
You know, I don't It hurts in my head when I get hit because I don't have any brains there.
It's all hollow.
I don't know what it's like to have a hollow brain.
I certainly don't and I hope to never.
Hunter hasn't sent me the money for the week.
10% for the big guy.
Hunter hasn't collected anything.
But it's hard.
Okay, so he's clearly not calling the shots.
We still have money coming in from China.
Oh, oh, yeah.
Oh, trust me.
What the way we're treating China is certainly someone's getting paid.
Someone's getting paid.
Is Mr. Xi still putting money in our offshore bank account?
I mean, through that intermediary, there's a businessman, a Chinese businessman.
And my goodness.
So we could go on and on.
OK, what did you want to ask?
I really I really want to do a whole Broadway show on.
But we could do a one man.
What do they call those?
I'd want I'd want to do a two man show because I want to be I want to be interviewed.
Okay, I would be the interviewer.
You could be the interviewer and I'll be by, I'll walk around.
We're going to practice this and then we'll come back.
I'm practicing the walk.
Yeah, the problem is we'll do it and then they'll just make fun of us and say that, you know, which is what they do to Trump.
Yeah, but he can't do that.
Yeah, I mean, Trump, Trump makes, when he gets Biden, Obama confused because he's playing Biden.
They look, see, he's just like, he's just like, well, of course he's like Biden, he's imitating him.
They're going to say now I'm, I'm getting, this is an imitation of Biden, Jerkoes.
Mayor Giuliani can't remember where he is.
I remember seeing Roosevelt reading the funny papers on television.
Mr. President Roosevelt was dead before there was television.
Oh, I still remember.
I do.
I still remember him.
And then he falls asleep.
Someday that's going to happen.
I'm not going to laugh.
In the middle of the speech, he's going to go, I want to say that we should always follow.
Oh, my goodness.
Look, I don't mean dead, asleep.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And look, what about what about the one we did last night?
Changing duty, honor and country.
Oh, man.
Make you mad as hell.
Oh my goodness, it really does.
It makes you mad as hell that these people play around with something like that because it's, what, too patriotic.
And you spoke before those cadets right after 9-11.
You cannot be too patriotic, my friends, about the United States of America.
The country is greater than all of us.
And especially our warfighters, the men and women that are fighting for this country, we're going to tell them not to be patriotic?
What are we doing?
It's like taking ourselves down from within.
So what did you want to ask me?
Okay.
I probably don't know the answer and I'll be embarrassed.
How did Ford lose to Jimmy Carter?
Oh, easy.
First of all, uh, the mood was very much against him because of, I mean, it was, it was hard in that short period of time to make up for Watergate.
Remember Watergate happened.
Um, the 70, the 70, um, 74 election, the Republicans got killed at the congressional race.
Uh, uh, And then Ford really had a year and a half.
It's actually remarkable that he did as well as he did.
Okay.
I mean, he got himself up there.
Yeah.
He pardoned Nixon too, right?
He pardoned Nixon.
That would actually help him now.
That's become a popular decision.
Okay.
Or a wise decision.
Yeah.
But at the time, it was a very controversial decision.
Didn't he end the war or was that Nixon?
The Vietnam War was over.
No, that was Nixon.
Yeah.
So, but I think a lot of people think that if Ford had had a little more time, he would have defeated Carter because he was a good president.
I mean, going back over his presidency, he was a very stable, maybe on the boring side.
Yeah.
Michigan man.
But a good, but a good, but a good president sort of like an Eisenhower.
Stable, reasonable decisions, conservative, but not Not heavily, excessively right-wing, and a really, really nice man.
Yeah, statesman.
He was in the Senate.
Yeah, and they also, another guy that they tried to make into not all that smart, who was, you know, was an intelligent guy.
Yeah, he had that Michigan accent.
Certainly more than intelligent enough to do that job where you really need common sense.
It doesn't hurt if you have wisdom, but you need common sense.
And he had a lot of common sense.
I like that.
You need to be able to think like a normal human being because ultimately that's what you're trying to do.
You're trying to win over a majority of them.
So you've got to know how the average person thinks.
That's a good way to say it.
But completely, the Democrat party has lost completely.
The Democratic party now thinks like the Marxists and Nitwits at Harvard.
So they cheat.
So they make up for it by cheating.
But it's okay to cheat because we're smarter than you are.
We're more entitled than you are.
We know what's best for you, right?
We know what's best for the country.
Yeah, that's right.
So we're entitled to cheat and lie.
Otherwise, horrible people like Trump or Giuliani will take over the country.
That's right.
And by the way, they aren't smart.
They don't know better.
That's why President Trump was able to win.
Anybody who thinks that probably is dumb.
That's actually, that's a great point.
To start with, when you have that kind of arrogance, when you have that kind of arrogance, and it's a real sucker for Marxism because Marx was all about, I'm smarter than God.
Part of the hatred of God was that, you know, People think that God is smarter than I am.
I'm really smarter than God.
And he wrote about how Satan outsmarted God.
He had a whole thing with Satanism as well.
So when they… Marth was a very screwed up human being.
As you would imagine developing a philosophy like that.
But he was a very, very sick individual.
That's right.
Well, before we sign off mayor, I just, once again, want to say, you know, I've been around you now for quite some time and, uh, working with you and just experiencing what we've experienced the last year and a half.
Uh, thank you for having the courage to stay in the fight.
Thank you for being willing to set up very few people.
This comes from somebody.
I don't remember who it is, but I don't want to sound like a plagiarist.
We've just begun to fight said someone, not me.
We've just begun to fight.
We'll find out by tomorrow who said that.
And I couldn't be more proud to be working for someone like you and being a part of this.
Thank you.
Good ticket, right?
Right here!
We don't have enough people with courage.
Oh, thank you.
There's other people that are smart, but they don't have the courage you do.
Well, let's get past this election and we'll have plenty of people.
With courage in Washington.
And thank you to all of you for joining us tonight and for being a part of America's Mayor.
Thank you very much.
And don't forget tomorrow, WABCRadio.com at 3.
We're in here at 8.
We'll be back here at 8.
And we'll have a really good show.
Tomorrow night we're going to make up for the fact that you were stuck with me for the first 10 minutes.
No.
I felt like, you know when you turn on Rush?
Would you please send in...
Saying that Ted did a really good job.
See, now when you do that, I'm going to know you did it because the mayor asked you to.
But I felt like Rush Limbaugh, when you tune in to Rush Limbaugh, right, and every once in a while there'd be a guest host, Mr. Stein or someone, good people, I'm not knocking them, but you know, you'd turn on Rush, you'd be ready for your hour of Rush, and then someone else's voice would come on, right?
Yeah, that used to happen at the opera house a lot.
With Luciano Pavarotti.
Pavarotti would always get, he would get stage fright, believe it or not.
Even as a great tenor, the greatest tenor in the world, it always was a struggle to get him out there.
And Volpe, who was the general manager, finally got tired of coming out and making excuses for him.
Either he was too sick, and people would buy the tickets for him, and they were expensive.
Uh, or very often he wanted, he wanted Volpe to say that he was sick because if he made a mistake with his voice, he'd have an excuse.
Like, uh, uh, um, uh, Mastro, uh, Pavarotti wants to beg your indulgence because he has a cold.
He didn't have a cold.
I mean, or he'd hold a handkerchief, maybe he'd be sniffling.
So he was doing a difficult role.
He was a perfectionist.
Okay.
So he never wanted to make him.
So he was constantly doing this kind of crap.
Yeah.
And, um, Volpi finally said, I'm never going out there.
You got to do it yourself.
You don't want to show up.
We'll put the curtain up and you just don't show up.
We'll do the opera without you.
We'll just eliminate that part.
You go out there and tell them you got a cold.
You go out and tell them you're not going to show up.
You go out.
Well, finally Pavarotti got him back good.
He had his last performance at the Met, which was Puccini's Tosca, and he invited all his friends.
Oh God, for months he was inviting people.
He invited me personally.
Oh, wow.
At a dinner that I was at and got me tickets right in the middle.
And they all show up, all these people who loved Luciano Pavarotti.
Yeah.
He didn't show up.
He was sick that night.
And a gentleman named Wasitra made his debut and was terrific.
And unfortunately, a few years ago, as a very young man, he died.
Oh.
But he actually, the guy who sang The part in Tosca was almost made up for the fact that Pavarotti wasn't there because he gave us another really great tenor who lived only about, only sang for about eight, seven or eight years.
And then he, I don't remember what he died of.
It must've been cancer or something.
Oh my goodness.
Well, I don't want to have that ending, but there's some hope for me you're saying.
There's some hope.
Right.
So Trump dominates again with unbelievable numbers.
Yeah.
It looks like in Ohio we have a chance to take a communist out.
That's right.
Bernie Marino's a great candidate, a great guy.
I worked with him last cycle.
He's a stand-up guy.
Good.
We'll look forward to helping him.
And we'll have him on, we'll have him on the show.
Good.
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