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America's Mayor Live (E364): ELECTION 2024—Bellwether Michigan
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Good evening.
Thanks for joining us for America's Mayor Live.
I'm Ted Goodman, and we'll be right with Mayor Rudy Giuliani in just a couple of minutes.
We want to thank you for joining us on a very busy, busy evening in the news.
And again, the mayor will be right with us momentarily.
And so we want to thank you for your continued support here on episode 364, I believe.
Something like our 73rd straight week of programming.
A lot of news tonight.
Let's get to some of the top stories before we kick it over to the mayor.
House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan is threatening Fannie Willis with contempt over subpoena on federal grants.
The House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan threatened possible contempt proceedings against Fulton County DA Fannie Willis over a subpoena Requesting information about her use of federal funds.
Wilson's office has already sent information in response to February's subpoena, but the GOP leader, Jim Jordan, complains that she failed to turn over documents related to allegations from a now terminated employee related to allegations from a now, uh, so this now terminated employee who flagged down another former employee's desire to misuse federal grant money this according to the hill jordan writes we appreciate that you have produced a narrow set of documents in response to the subpoena but your compliance with the subpoena today is deficient if you fail to do so again this written to fannie willis if you fail to do so the committee will consider taking further action such as invocation of contempt of congress proceedings
So these allegations center on a former employee to Willis who said that the district attorney
fired this former employee shortly after the former employee raised concerns
about how the Willis campaign...
So let me get this straight.
The allegations center on a former employee to Willis who said the district attorney had fired this former employee after she raised concerns about another Willis campaign aide who then joined the prosecutor's office as a county employee.
And this individual was raising concerns about how this other employee was potentially using federal grant money for items outside the scope of what that money was meant for.
So, we're not here to levy any accusations.
Again, these are just claims, and it's not clear yet how or where these funds were spent inappropriately.
So that's the top story we're following.
Again, so this thing with Fannie Willis, the Fulton County District Attorney, her whole thing is falling apart, isn't it, folks?
My goodness, what, six of the charges were dropped yesterday by the judge.
We expect a ruling from him now.
We're hearing tomorrow on whether or not Fannie Willis will keep her job here.
And of course, Nathan Wade being the special prosecutor, I'm sure most of us would agree that he is indeed special.
So, Big news!
Joe Biden's in Michigan.
We'll cover some of that.
We'll at least look to see what he was doing there in the Great Lakes state, and new polling there shows Trump up on Biden.
We'll want to talk about RFK Jr.
and his potential vice president picks, and of course Aaron Rodgers, the great quarterback of the New York Jets, formerly of the Green Bay Packers, being rumored to potentially be one of RFK's running mates as vice president.
And look, whether this is a serious idea or not, Aaron is certainly getting a crash course into, uh, you know, kind of the state of American politics and what happens when, you know, you, if you even start floating yourself, your name out there, what can happen, right?
And just how ridiculous, absurd and unfortunate some of the coverage is.
You saw the hit piece from CNN today regarding Aaron Rodgers And what they claim are two private discussions that occurred something like 10 years ago, that Aaron Rodgers had questioned the veracity of the details surrounding the shooting at Sandy Hook, the unfortunate tragedy.
And my goodness, right?
The second his name came out yesterday, all of a sudden you got literally a hit piece from CNN.
Imagine being a court, right?
Imagine being Aaron Rodgers and everything else going on, everything that's happening.
Maybe I'll be the vice president.
Sure, yeah, yeah.
Maybe I'll do that.
And all of a sudden, boom.
I mean, it's taken seriously by some people and they're just kind of sending a message.
And Aaron Rodgers, it's something he has to think about here.
Just on, you know, on just what exactly he's getting himself into.
But look, there's people like President Trump who refuse, who refuse no matter how nasty and vicious, inappropriate, Some members of the political press, I like to say some, it's not everyone, it's not all of them, it's a lot of them, but how many in the political press conduct business, you know, someone like President Trump refused to let that keep him from doing the right thing and serving the people of this country.
So we'll get to more on all that, but look, you're not here to see me, and I mentioned this last night, you know, I hope you're not getting the feeling that I would get, and this is Not meant to bash Mr. Stein, right?
The guy who would fill in for Rush Limbaugh, right?
You'd be all geared up, ready to go, and you got your Rush Limbaugh, you're ready to root for Rush, you know?
And then on comes that music, and the show starts, and it's not Rush's voice, right?
It's a fill-in guest host, and so I don't want to give you that feeling.
So we're gonna, you know, the mayor's gonna be a big part of tonight's show, and we're gonna go to him here shortly.
And then we'll come back and discuss some of, some of the news of the day and take some of your questions.
So, uh, with that, uh, here is America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani.
I think this is Rudy Giuliani with America's mayor live.
And it's going to be even livelier when we get to the, um, I haven't had him yet.
We'll see what happens when I take him.
But I'm going to begin with a story of personal disappointment.
Not that we were close friends.
We never were, Chuck Schumer and I. Would I consider that we had a productive, professional relationship?
Yeah, the answer is yes.
And this is before I was mayor, when I was associate attorney general and working on the crime bills for the Reagan administration.
And eventually when I was mayor and getting the crime bill passed, For which, just in case you think I'm boasting or whatever, I can show you my letter from Bill Clinton telling you that I was one of the most important forces in getting it passed.
Now, that's a bit of an exaggeration, of course, but it does indicate that I was one of the important forces.
I negotiated a lot of that, believe it or not, with Schumer and Biden.
Let's put Biden to the side for a moment.
A lot of good stories about that one.
But I always... I always had a...
Well, I actually first met up with Schumer because he was involved in an investigation that I was in charge of and made a determination that he hadn't violated the law, I think quite correctly and quite courageously, because it wasn't exactly popular at the time among Republicans.
But in any event, I had a good relationship with him.
He was always a rational, more or less rational guy to talk to.
A crime bill, very positive achievement.
He'd come to a lot of our ceremonies and and appropriately take his degree of credit for the crime bill.
I never minded that.
He was entitled to it as Schumer was, as I was.
I do remember and I can't remember the time it wasn't when Biden was in office and I had been detecting a real, I had been detecting a real traitor thing happening with Israel.
Because one of the things that bound us together, in addition to the fact that his wife worked for me for a period of time, she's out of this completely.
The woman's a fabulous woman and was a fabulous commissioner.
I started to see he was sort of like making dumb excuses for Iran.
And if you're Jewish or if you're American, you got to see Iran as a mortal threat.
No, no, no.
Please understand, a mortal threat.
The Ayatollah is a maniac, the first one and the second one.
The people around them are made up of maniacs and mafia-like killers, gangsters.
They are not religious in any sense of the word that you would recognize as malicious.
The mullahs are not a bunch of little priests or rabbis or ministers.
They're gangsters.
They steal money, they kill people, they torture people, they intimidate people.
It's a terrible government.
It's killed more of its own people than any country but China.
And all of a sudden, you start to feel Schumer going soft on him because Obama was in love with Iran.
We know that for reasons that history will, I think, point out and make him one of our worst presidents.
It's going to be a big contest with Biden.
But in any event, we're having this discussion.
Had it be while Obama was still there, so 2014, 2013, At a party.
And he got up to make some comments about the Obama administration approach to Iran, Israel, etc.
And I got up and said, this is, you must have really been drinking the Kool-Aid, Chuck, because there's no way when push comes to shove, Obama is going to defend Israel against Iran.
Somebody must have been giving you some kind of a drink or other.
And he made a comment, you know, like I didn't know what I was talking about.
What did I know?
And I just spent, you know, probably a third of the last four years in the Middle East.
He had spent his time going around shaking people's now for campaign money.
So I felt I knew a hell of a lot more than he did.
And who the hell is going to tell him the truth anyway?
And I said, because he said something to suggest I didn't know what he was talking about.
And I knew I did.
And I don't Take that stuff lying down from anybody.
I just said something like, that's the jerkiest thing I've ever heard.
Or sometimes, Chuck, you really are a jerk.
And oh, they all got all upset.
This is the majority leader, the minority leader, the some kind of leader, the Jewish leader, the whatever leader.
I don't give a shit who he was.
What he said was stupid.
I was right.
He turns out to be wrong.
The guy, not only before, not only after that, that his hero, Obama, Take up the cause of Iran.
He committed a major federal crime on behalf of Iran.
Gave him hundreds of millions in cash under the table without disclosure until it was discovered.
You would be in federal prison for the rest of your life if you did that.
What a country that was a friend of ours, much less one that wanted to kill you and your children.
So from then on, it's been increasingly funny feeling in my stomach when I listen to him.
I hate to watch men who deteriorate.
They hate to watch human beings who deteriorate.
Loyalty and courage, I don't know, they stand out there for me.
So the opposites are obviously true.
Disloyalty and sniveling little cowards really bother me.
Well, this is what he was becoming.
Today, he just disappeared.
He just disappeared from the serious world of anybody in going on the Senate floor and double-crossing the homeland of the Jewish people.
Putting them in grave jeopardy of eventually being eliminated by Iran.
Condemning Bibi Netanyahu basically for trying to eliminate Hamas and going so far and acting irresponsibly.
That's not true.
That's not true.
I mean, you can be a political whore if you want.
You can say anything that the Democrats tell you to say.
But you gotta have some integrity, particularly for the things that are personal to you, like your religion and your people.
You gotta know more about it than they do if it's your people.
Gotta take a little more than that, Chuck, to turn a good man against his people.
In fact, I don't know that you could turn a good man against his people.
I know you're really important.
You're the highest-ranking Jewish official.
It may turn out to be a disgrace, actually, Chuck, rather than an honor.
Because if I were Jewish, and I feel in a way that I am, I know that's strange, but I do, I would want no part of you.
I kind of like your name removed.
Like, please don't think we're all like that.
What he basically said was that Bibi has gone way over the line.
And then he did something that I thought was some kind of collusion, crime, go to jail for.
He interfered in a foreign election!
Didn't they want to put Trump in jail for that?
He interfered in a foreign election.
He said they should get rid of Bibi.
Why does he come off campaigning in Israel?
Oh, by the way, Chuck, you know this as well as I do.
His opponent, Gantz, is a bigger supporter of wiping out Hamas than Bibi, if he can be a bigger supporter.
This is an area in which it's an 80, 85%, if not 90% issue among the Israeli people.
And that is real simple.
These people called Hamas are dedicated to destroying us, to destroying Israel, to destroying the Jewish people.
And let me get my two cents in, and killing Americans.
Okay?
So my friends, then, are the ones who want to get rid of them.
Not you, but Bibi and Gantz.
And the 85% of the people in Israel who want to do it.
And my country's on their side for the reason that Ronald Reagan taught me a long time ago.
A guy who's You couldn't even shine the tip of his shoes, Chuck.
I don't think he'd let you.
Ronald Reagan said, you know why I love Israel and I'll stick with Israel through thick and thin?
Mr. President, he said, they all base it on domestic politics.
That's too shaky a proposition.
He said, I'll stick with Israel through thick and thin because they've stuck with us through thick and thin.
And he said, I can tell you some, I can't tell you other things they've done for us.
But anybody who sat in this seat, Let him point out one ally that's better than Israel.
I want one person that sat in the seat that when push came to shove and we asked Israel to do the impossible for us, they didn't do it.
And then I became much closer to Nancy and as you know, close to Bush and close to Trump.
I can personally testify to that.
They don't say no to the United States.
When their lives are in jeopardy to help us, what you're doing It's disgraceful, Schumer.
We should be 100% supporting Bibi.
From the very beginning, we should have been holding Palestinians accountable.
This goes back to a tragic historic mistake made by Bill Clinton and Arafat, who turned his head.
I'm surprised Arafat's not even a girl.
I knew Arafat.
I knew that was a mistake the day it happened, because you may not know this because you demean people, but the reality is the reason I knew a lot more about this than you did.
I spent a great deal of time investigating Arafat, putting an indictment together against him.
I can't remember it all now, but I probably could dig it up.
If you're not loyal to the Israeli people, how about you try the Americans?
He killed 27 Americans.
And, uh, Clinton's kissing him and giving him money.
Billions.
Made him and his wife billionaires because they're going to make peace like hell they're going to make peace.
So, um, forget Schumer.
He doesn't speak for the Jewish people.
I can say that.
And I'm going to say it.
So come on, complain.
Whoever wants to complain, complain.
And by the way, this is a straight out political appeal because no way we're going to fix this and save America and save Israel.
Get the hell out of the Democrat party.
It is now.
An Islamic extremist party, because all of this is being done because they're worried about Michigan and Dearborn, Michigan.
This is, this is all political.
Every single part of it.
You don't get thousands and thousands of people killed and jeopardize the future of a nation over your cheap, screwy, screwed up little politics, you crumbs.
Okay, I'm gonna take a short break and I'm gonna be right back.
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Welcome back to America's Mayor Live.
And what I want to do now is call your attention to something that falls into the category of why this show exists.
It exists for a whole A host of reasons, including I love to do it.
But the main reason I started the show is to bring you things like this to get hidden.
Now, this happened on Friday of last week.
We didn't see it until last night.
I want to show you this.
Let me tell you where it is.
This is at Hazelwood East High School in Spanish Lakes, Missouri.
It's largely a suburb of St.
Louis.
And this is, I believe, last Friday.
So this whole thing was kind of hidden.
I think you're going to see why right away, why this fell under the Biden administration dictate
of censorship, like Hitler did, like Stalin did, like Xi does right now.
I think you're going to see why right away, why this fell under the Biden administration
dictate of censorship, like Hitler did, like Stalin did, like Xi does right now.
Come on, come on.
Come on.
Come on.
What are you doing?
Put your gun in your mouth.
What is this?
Put it in your mouth.
What is this?
Put it in your mouth.
Come on.
Come on.
Put it in your mouth.
Ah.
Put it in your mouth.
First time I saw it last night, it took me a while to absorb it, and frankly, it took me a while to go to sleep when I started doing the research on it and realizing it wasn't getting the attention it deserved.
It's getting some attention now.
By the way, I checked the St.
Louis Post-Dispatch today.
There's not an article about it.
Let me tell you her condition.
Her name is Kaylee Gaines.
She's a very fine young lady, by all accounts, lovely young lady.
She has been unconscious from the moment that happened.
She has been diagnosed with serious brain bleeding, which I believe is still continuing, which is extraordinarily dangerous, at least still continuing as of the last report that I got.
The more recent report says her brain swelling is not going down.
They have hope for her, but they won't know what she will recover, if anything, until she wakes up.
She was a high school student in St.
Louis, that is in St.
Louis County, looks to me to be about 15 miles directly north of St.
Louis, and a big community from the noting of it on the map.
I don't have an identity for the criminal who did that.
Someone watching it with me said she looked like a trained boxer.
You know, one of, what do they call these, extreme boxers?
And the way she was handling herself, the part of it that I found extraordinary, having myself been in street fights more than I'd like to think about, but a long time ago, so I hardly remember them.
That thing about grabbing her shoulders and banging the young lady's head against the cement?
That's deliberate murder.
I mean, you're having a fight.
You knock her down.
Usually that ends the fight.
It used to for me.
Either way.
But then the jump on top.
Okay, that happens sometimes now.
A couple more punches, you get up.
Now we see the kicking, right, that goes on later.
Never saw that thing.
That's deliberate murder.
That is Unless this woman is brain dead, you've got to know if you take a human skull and smash it with that ferocity against cement, you're going to kill somebody with one shot.
But just in case one shot didn't do, there was a second and a third and a fourth.
You heard the thud.
This is a Floyd case.
Ha ha.
Except for, right, the illness of our country.
If this country, or the country that our founding fathers wanted, if this country were the country that our ancestors died for, this would be another Floyd case.
Because the fact that she's white and the girl is black would mean nothing.
But the fact that she's white and the girl is black means everything.
It means this was hidden for three, four days.
It means it's still not getting the attention that it deserves.
No one's giving reports on her condition.
It means that this will be hidden so that they can continue the communist-bred conspiracy that we're a white, racist nation.
Hard to do when a nation has elected a black president twice, isn't it?
Hard to do when a nation has fought a war to end slavery.
The only nation in the world that I can find in the history of the world that ever fought where whites ever fought to free blacks ever, ever.
So these are the things they want to keep from you.
So they take a beating like this that is savage.
This is a savage beating.
And the other part of it that cannot be ignored is there are any number of black teenagers standing around without any affect at all watching this or fighting themselves.
There wasn't a single person except somebody at the end that went and looked at her, that attempted to help her.
In many of these fights, you eventually see some people come in, particularly when the coup de grace is going to be administered, like banging their head against the cement.
You see them come in and try to stop, but we didn't see that.
Every one of these kids should go to jail.
Every single one of them.
The first one?
First degree murder.
And if they have the death penalty, yep.
Yep.
Gotta stop.
Gotta make an example.
Now, just to show you that the end result of doing this is more black people dying than white people dying, because what we did see is exceptional.
Not many white people get killed in this country.
Like in New York, it's only 8%, 70% black.
Just yesterday, in a high school right nearby, a young man, 14, was killed in some kind of fight.
They started fighting.
Uh, somebody did try to come in and stop it.
You hear a yell.
He just stabbed him.
And the 14-year-old boy, Johnson Jennings, who's at Johnson Jennings High School, and is one of their football stars, Justin Brooks, will no longer live, will no longer play football.
His dad will no longer have a son.
His mom will no longer have a kid.
Because, uh, St.
Louis is overwhelmed with crimes.
I'm going to have to leave shortly because I'm going to Mar-a-Lago.
Isn't that nice?
That's why I'm all dressed.
I don't usually dress so nice.
But Ted's going to take over.
I'm going to have Ted just read to you a little bit of the police blotter in St.
Louis.
You know, I've been telling you this for a while.
I go to St.
Louis a lot.
And it's become a crime capital.
All because of Soros.
All because of the DA he put there.
Crime went through the roof.
Murders.
I bet in this period of time they murdered more people than in New York.
And what, New York's eight times bigger?
So this is a purely political situation that's been created.
And finally, Judge Cannon, shame on you.
You can't figure out that the Presidential Record Act doesn't have a criminal penalty.
And one of the things we don't do is create any ambiguity about the use of the criminal process in this country, because taking away a man or a woman's liberty is sacrosanct.
And we only do it when it's crystal clear that they violated a law.
Well, since there is no criminal penalty under the Presidential Record Act, and they're taking laws that were never applied that way, how would the person involved know that they were possibly violating the law?
Well, they wouldn't, Judge.
Please, Judge, read.
I know it's hard.
Reading is hard.
But read.
Read the presidential record and you show me the criminal penalty.
And when you can't, dismiss the case for ambiguity.
Or maybe take the horse blinders off.
Look at the world and see what they just did with Biden.
Five times worse.
Or Hillary Clinton, 50 times worse.
And you don't think we're going to have real problems in this country if we continue this two-tier system of justice?
This isn't, that's almost a euphemistic phrase.
This is pure out and out injustice and a criminal corrupt justice system.
Don't let your timidity make you part of it.
Please reconsider.
This thing is so clear.
My goodness, you'd have failed my criminal law course so fast.
Summer school.
Well, Let's take a short break, and when you come back, you'll see a far better looking person here.
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Good.
And welcome back to America's Mayor Live, episode 364 on this very, very busy news night.
We're coming to you live from Palm Beach, Florida.
And, uh, wow, what a, what a busy, busy day, busy week in the news.
So what a great explanation from the mayor, uh, some very interesting stories out there and just a lot, you know, a lot happening, um, in, in some of these different, some of these different areas, a lot of updates, right.
And some of the, some of the, Uh, legal cases that we have.
And so again, I apologize.
You got me here for the rest of the hour.
Uh, and as I do this, I'm also kind of, kind of multitasking, uh, checking in.
I have some good folks who are helping us with the show.
Of course, Steven, uh, here with me on the other side, Steven, and we've got people helping out remotely.
So I've got my phone.
So if you see me looking down, I'm kind of checking in with the team, and they're filling me in on kind of how things are going.
So thanks again.
We were just talking about some polling in Michigan when we sent it over to the mayor, and so I kind of wanted to revisit this and kind of look into the numbers.
This was a five-way poll, including, of course, President Trump, Joe Biden, Marianne Williamson, of course, RFK Jr., I believe a fifth person, was it Jill Stein?
I'll have to look into that.
There's another person there and we're going to get to that.
That person was a five-way poll.
And it's, it's interesting.
Michigan, ladies and gentlemen, may be the bellwether state, right?
It may be the state to watch for here, this election cycle.
It's a state that president Trump won in 2016.
So here.
I'm looking at this, Steven, if you don't mind looking for that five, it was a five-way poll in Michigan.
So we had a five-way poll.
Well, we want to talk about that.
But Michigan again, could be the bellwether state.
Well, it will be right when it comes down to the swing states.
Steven, what do you got?
Yeah.
Biden.
No, what, what, what were the five people?
Biden, Trump, Kennedy, Stein, West.
Oh, Cornell West.
So no.
Obviously.
It's.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
So president Trump leaves that polo, right?
With.
41%.
Trump has 41.
Biden's at 38 36.
36.
So Trump with a five-point lead over Biden in Michigan.
That's interesting, right?
And of course, oftentimes with these polls, you add points to someone like President Trump, who through many ways, right, whether it's the polling itself or the respondents, right, Trump supporters, and you could even say conservatives, libertarians are a lot less likely to respond to some of these phone calls they get, right, or pollsters or They're a lot more wary, I would say, at least historically.
And so, President Trump is up big in Michigan.
Of course, he won that state in 2016.
The final number is something like a 10,000 vote difference.
2020, again, we saw a lot of stuff in Michigan, and I feel a lot of concerns that have yet to actually be addressed when it comes to the voting.
I will say this, I think Joe Biden is someone who appeals much more to Uh, the kind of some of your, your voter voting, the voting blocks in Michigan, right?
Then someone like Hillary Clinton.
So I can buy the idea that Joe Biden did better than Hillary Clinton in Michigan.
But the idea that he, uh, uh, beat president Trump, the way that those, that they show the final numbers is just, uh, something that deserves to be looked at closer.
And again, like in many States, a lot of these concerns haven't been properly addressed and It's un-American to try and stifle our ability to talk, to bring up these issues, right?
To talk about what others have told us under penalty of jail time, uh, their concerns or what they saw on election day, right?
We're talking about tens of thousands of Americans across this country, uh, communicating with the Trump campaign or, uh, local authorities or others that they've reached, that they reached out to at the time with legitimate questions, concerns, observations and things that they saw on election day 2020.
And so, you know, this narrative has, it almost took over immediately, right?
And immediately the narrative was, this is the safest election in history.
Uh, the idea that any foul play could have taken place is preposterous, right?
That's, that was the narrative right away pushed out and on, right?
And so unfortunately, you know, you have this situation where, um, these, the, the media, right.
Uh, the Democrat party, academia, uh, much of Hollywood, not all.
And again, I gotta, I gotta be, gotta be fair, right.
Some, not all of these individuals in these groups have, I don't know, colluded, teamed up, right.
And this is an ongoing issue.
Along with the deep state and the permanent Washington political class, to try and ensure that President Trump will not and cannot be back in the White House.
Look, I suggest to you that in 2016, President Trump won because he caught them with their pants down, right?
These folks, while they unfortunately do have so much control and power over this country, doesn't make them smart, right?
It doesn't mean they actually understand what's going on.
And they're certainly not in touch with the people.
And so that's why you saw President Trump in 2016.
What an incredible campaign, right?
He's obviously, you could argue, one of the greatest campaigns in American history.
Probably the greatest upset, and definitely in modern history.
And he pulled it off because of his message, right?
And who he is as a man.
I mean, he is Uh, by far, by far, in my opinion, uh, the, the greatest president of our generation.
And I would argue to you that he's, uh, top five, if not top three all time.
Of course, the great, the great honest Dave Abe Lincoln has to be up there with everything he, he did and accomplished and George Washington, but that's almost like his own.
He's almost in his own category.
Right.
The founding father, the first president, there's only one first president, right?
There's only one general Washington.
And so, um, Trump is right there and you know, we get, we get the second term, my goodness.
Right.
Right.
I think with, uh, just his, uh, business savvy, his political chops and his ability to connect with the working people of this country.
He certainly will leave an indelible mark on the fabric of this nation.
I mean, he already has.
Now imagine what he can do in four more years.
And now we know they're going to come at him.
They already are, right?
Again, that kind of goes back to what we've been talking about here the last few minutes.
In 2020, there was no way they're going to let that man win.
I mean, you My goodness, think of everything that happened in 2020.
Think of how crazy that year really, really was.
Whether it was with this pandemic, right?
And the way they shut down these cities.
I lived in Washington, D.C.
when COVID first broke out in America.
You know, when they really started pushing that in March.
That NBA game that they started canceling NBA games.
The point being, it was just what a What an intense year, right?
We went from COVID to these riots.
Remember the race riots, the BLM, those ridiculous, I mean, my goodness, uh, having all that occur election year, uh, the Democrat party puts up Joe Biden and look, the fix was in from the start.
I mean, uh, it's so obvious and in so many different ways, think of social media, think of these, the, the, the, The lies, right?
The misleading stories.
And no matter where you are on President Trump, if you cannot admit that there certainly was some misleading news coverage of this man, right?
Then you're not playing it straight, right?
So, President Trump pulls it off in 2016.
2020, they're not going to let him do it, right?
They put up Joe Biden.
They're able to kind of play him off as a sweet old Uncle Joe, right?
Grandpa, Uncle, you know, the mailman.
Aw, shucks.
Scranton Joe.
Hard-working guy.
You know, not the brightest bulb, right?
They never claimed he was either, but he's just a nice guy, a good man, and he can steady the ship or whatever they were claiming he was going to do.
It worked.
That on top of This new system of voting, right?
The massive mail-in voting schemes that occurred in darn near every state.
And in some cases, right, in some of these areas, I mean, just unprecedented levels.
A whole new way we're going to start voting in 2020.
And then for them to come out and say, oh, that's ridiculous, right?
The idea that The last show was fair and square.
And they'll just say it.
And here's the thing.
Some of your friends, right?
People in your life.
They'll like roll their eyes the second you try to bring it up.
The second you try to say anything.
Excuse me.
And isn't it amazing how assured... And these are good people, right?
I'm not here to... This isn't about being antagonistic, right?
I am trying, like many of you, right?
We're trying to wake people up and inform them.
And express our love of this country and fighting for what's right at a time when we're losing this thing.
I mean, you could argue we've already lost the country and now we're trying to fight for it back.
I mean, my goodness, you could argue certainly that we do live in a one party regime at this point in time.
But back to here, what we're talking about in 2020, right?
It's so interesting how quick People are to just, some people, just to, oh, you know, that election was fair.
Well, you know, prove that it was, prove that it was rigged or fixed.
And I'm just thinking to myself, okay, you're so self-assured.
I'm not, all right, like I won't make any assertions, any conclusion, any conclusive assertions, right?
I'm just here to tell you, I was on President Trump's 2020 campaign.
We had a phone bank going all day, every day after the November election date.
Thousands of people calling in, right?
Thousands of people that none of us knew, they're calling in.
These are American citizens to report concerns that they received.
You have these, you have people reporting them to their local secretaries of state, county clerks, right?
Reporting what they're seeing, their concerns.
And instead of just allowing these concerns and the process to play out, let these people be heard.
If this certainly was the safest, most fair election of all time, then the facts will show it to be.
No, they couldn't do that.
Instead, and again, my focus is on the people in our lives, right, that just shrug it off and don't want to talk about it.
Why?
And the unfortunate answer is what they've been exposed to.
Whether it's through the old school medium of television, right, or they hear it on the radio on their way to work.
Or something on their phone, right?
An ad on their social media apps.
Or, again, the news stories that pop up from some of these legacy news outlets.
So they're not even looking for this information necessarily, right?
But they're getting it.
And so, you know, that just hits them.
A story in the news, the story online about, you know, President Trump made a claim about the election, and you know, they always couch their language in a way that's telling you ahead of time, right?
Baseless, baseless accusations of election fraud, right?
How they would just word the stories, right?
They're already pushing a specific perspective.
And their perspective was Trump lost.
You're not allowed to ask questions.
You're not allowed to bring up concerns.
And you're certainly Not allowed to try to find a way within the Constitution to bring some sort of answer or, you know, rate to address the concerns that thousands and thousands of American citizens across this country raised with their local officials, county clerks, secretaries of state, the Trump campaign, other campaigns about
You know, mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, some of these different things that we've seen.
And by the way, these are things that we used to, a lot of us would talk about pre-2020, pre-Trump era.
You know, 2012, when I was in college, and 2009, 2010, right?
People would talk, would bring up concerns about Detroit and votes coming in late and all these different things.
Look, and maybe we should have taken it more serious then, right?
And maybe we could be further along in protecting the voting system at this point, or at least we'd be in a space where we're allowed to talk about it, right?
Because you weren't criticized for talking about it then.
You weren't like chastised for saying, maybe people wouldn't take it serious or they just, you know, They wouldn't want to go down that path, but that you wouldn't be ostracized.
Now, you're not allowed to talk about it, right?
You're not allowed to bring up concerns or questions, then you're ostracized.
But that narrative's crumbling as well, and my goodness, how exciting is it to have Laura Trump and Mr. Watley, I believe, North Carolina, now leading the RNC and bringing our good friend Christina Bob on board, and a lot of other good people.
Uh, with the new RNC and it does sound like they're, they're going to be taking steps with Christina Bob, the good friend of the show, right?
Uh, leading up those efforts.
So again, 2020, I think we're going to let them do this, right?
2024.
We have a lot of concerns.
However, we still got to vote, right?
That's the other thing.
I served, I served as communications director of the Michigan Republican party after The 2020 election, I stayed on, tried to see what we could do to address the concerns, again, of thousands of citizens.
And I went back to my home state from the new year, 2021.
And, you know, we had Governor Whitmer.
We have Governor Whitmer there now, right?
My goodness, during COVID, that was crazy what she was doing in Michigan, folks.
Just absolutely absurd.
Story for another time.
But we're there, and I hear from the grassroots, what we call the grassroots, but I hear from fellow patriots, right?
People around the state who are involved at these local meetings, county meetings.
Sometimes I'd meet with 10 to 20 people at a time.
And so many of them would, so many folks, friends of mine, right?
Why even vote, Chad?
The fix is in.
They stole it.
We're not doing anything to address it.
And look, look, I certainly agree, even to this point now, right?
We need to be doing more.
We need to be able to talk about this.
We need to address these concerns and ensure that they're not able to do what they did in 2020 again.
That, of course, needs to happen.
100%.
However, we can't take this position of, well, the fix is already in, so we can't, you know, no point in voting even.
You have to vote.
It's very important that Uh, we had, we, we hold, we hold that position as well that our people vote, we go out and vote and both, we can do both, right?
We can go out there and vote, get our vote in there and convince others and tell others too, right?
Um, that's so important.
And while also, uh, doing what we can to again, address legitimate concerns from thousands of American citizens across this country on what they saw, uh, election day, 2020.
And taking steps, right?
Constructive steps, not just fluff or, you know, just a lot of talk, right?
But we could take real steps to ensure or at least push back against what we all know to be election interference, which comes in many forms, right?
Whether it was the social media, shadow banning, the way pop culture, right, would talk about the issues.
There's just so many ways, right?
And now this time around with these ridiculous show trials happening against the president, of course, hitting America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani, these show trials, right?
All these, this Fannie Willis, or what they're doing in New York or DC, all these cases, it's all, all of it is just part of a larger political, January 6th, right?
Countless activists, the electors.
That's right.
That's right.
The litigation.
And again, right.
These are concerted efforts to interfere with the twenty twenty four election.
And we just the good news is it does appear that the American people are are waking up.
Right.
It does appear that they're seeing through this and more and more right.
More and more.
It doesn't mean we're where we need to be, but they're understanding that this whole thing is Um, that we have all these, these issues and it's not, it's not right.
And in order to, I would suggest to you in order to fight, uh, to take back the country from what are clearly people with, uh, not just nefarious intentions, uh, but, uh, are they're hell bent on destroying this country and the values that made it great.
And it's an, it's an, it's.
It's been incredible to witness, right?
All of us were here.
It's 2024.
Think of the last 10 years.
Um, yeah, right.
Let's say 2014, let's go back to the, the, the, a lot of the race divisions, uh, pushed under, under president Barack Obama, right?
Trayvon Martin, all, you know, uh, some of, some of the, those incidences and how that brought racial tensions to an all time high.
And some of the issues there leading into, of course, 2016, And everything with President Trump, uh, leading up to 2020, obviously COVID and these, these race riots.
And it's just, it's, it is quite something.
And now of course, we're, we're entering into a whole new, uh, time period with a, where we, we, we basically do not have a functioning president.
Uh, it's, it's, it's bizarre.
Think about it.
Think about how they used to make, Uh, make fun of someone like president George W. Bush, right?
They're relentless with him.
And meanwhile, you know, they treat Joe Biden with, with kid gloves.
And so you really have to, it really makes you wonder.
So with that, we're going to go to a commercial and we'll be back and I'm gonna have with me a friend from Michigan.
And again, we're going to talk a little bit more.
I'm sorry, but folks, the election is going to come down, uh, to a few places, right?
Like any election.
Uh, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona.
Uh, you could then, but let's put Wisconsin there.
Uh, potentially Nevada, Nevada.
I mean, really in a fair fight, Trump wins 49, maybe all 50, 50 States, right?
Uh, but we know that's not what we're dealing with this thing, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin.
Start getting into Nevada.
Some of these other places where we will be strong, but Michigan is going to be a place we want to watch.
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I have with me Stephen Schumacher from Michigan.
Stephen, come on in.
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Sorry, folks.
It's just a little bit more, maybe.
A little bit more.
Stephen, thanks for joining us.
And so, Stephen, tell us where you're from.
I am born and raised in Fenton, Michigan.
Did a little time elsewhere.
And where is Fenton?
Fenton is in the 8th congressional district in Tennessee County.
Outside of Detroit.
Outside of Detroit, about an hour north of Detroit.
Show us Fenton.
Okay, on camera it's a little difficult, but I live here.
And this is Fenton area.
Detroit's gonna be right around here.
Flint's in this area.
Eighth district's gonna be right about here.
The hand thing, right?
In Michigan, as well.
Upper Peninsula, you can add, and then guess where Ted's from?
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Oh, sorry, yeah.
Nope.
That's Michigan right there, yeah.
Yeah, there we go.
Ted, where are you from?
Way up there.
Yeah.
The Upper Peninsula.
So I'm from Houghton, Michigan.
But I wanted to bring Steven on, a friend of mine.
He's down here in Florida for a few days.
And Steven, let us know about how it's looking for President Trump in Michigan.
Right.
And how you, you know, how are things on the ground?
Uh, it's looking great for president Trump in Michigan.
Actually, it's going to be competitive, which is great because Michigan is a very competitive state.
It has historically been blue, maybe purple, but I went to a Trump rally, get out the boat rally in Waterford, Michigan, another one of these cities right outside of Detroit.
And many thousands attended, you know, excited in freezing cold temperatures.
And it made me certain about it.
And then also we just had our caucuses, first ever Michigan presidential caucuses.
And I got to vote for President Trump for the first time and it was awesome in a presidential caucus.
Not for the first, no, sorry, in a presidential caucus.
That was the first caucus?
Yeah, I voted for President Trump every time, don't worry.
But yeah, we had our first ever caucus, presidential caucus, you know, never heard that before.
In Michigan, that's right.
And Michigan had to do that, of course, because the Democrat Party had actually moved their caucus, or sorry, their primary in Michigan, their presidential primary.
Oh, they had a caucus before us, right?
The Democrat Party in Michigan?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
But they moved their, well, they moved both of our, of our presidential primaries up.
Well, they didn't, but the Republican Party moved it up after the Democrats did, right?
Yes.
So the Democrats put the president, actually, yeah.
And then so we actually created a kind of a difficult workaround with the RNC where our delegates wouldn't technically be allocated until after The stat, like the bylaws of the RNC requires.
So it was complicated and some people were worried about it.
I'm told it's ironclad and I'm sticking to that.
So Michigan's delegates will be heard in Milwaukee.
Yeah, yeah.
And of course, President Trump cleaned up in Michigan.
Clean sweep.
I found out there were a few in the 8th district that I didn't know who these people were, but there were a few Haley people.
Nikki Haley?
Very few.
Like, like in the single digits kind of.
No, maybe like low.
I think you got something like 98% of the vote, right?
Yeah, very close.
But still, again, so 98% of what?
Like 2,000 delegates, would you say?
Yeah, well, as you can... I don't know if any of your viewers know, but there's a little drama going on in Michigan.
So not all of the delegates happen to be in Grand Rapids at the caucuses.
And up until the recent court decision, we thought we were going to have two conventions to have to go to, one in Detroit, one in Grand Rapids.
And then a judge came in.
And the Karamo convention kind of fizzled out after that point.
But I, I love those people.
Most of them tried to show up and a lot of them were credentialed, but there's a lot of shenanigans.
I honestly don't like to get too involved in it, but, uh, it, you know, that's some interesting news anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
So president Trump pulling well in Michigan, we expect him to do, uh, to do well there, right.
Perform well.
And again, Joe Biden in 2020 was still able to kind of come off as You know, Uncle Joe, Scranton Joe, nice guy, you know, but that's that facade's got to be gone now.
Oh, it's got to be gone.
Well, he goes out like full woke, like almost all the time.
Isn't that interesting?
Even with this, like the Israel, which I don't like, I don't want to boil it down to whether you're in your woke or at super liberal, but the conflict in Israel, right?
Not in Israel, but, you know, the following October 7th and everything happening over there.
Yeah, well, let me tell you this.
So I was talking to a lot of different national media who are coming into town for these caucuses when they were originally scheduled.
And guess where all of them were staying when they were going to be in town?
You probably know, but I don't.
But yeah, but OK, so for those are Dearborn and we're fortunate enough in Michigan to have the largest Muslim population outside of the Middle East.
And that's primarily in Dearborn, a little bit in Hamtramck.
But we get the best food.
from the Middle East.
It's like, it's amazing.
Yeah.
So I was always, I was giving these reporters restaurant recommendations, but they're huge focus.
They were all in Dearborn.
They were all in Dearborn trying to talk about the uncommitted vote with Joe Biden, which did turn out to be pretty significant.
But, but isn't it?
So I agree with that, Steven, and that's in, in, because Michigan is going to play such a, we both agree a critical role in 2024.
I still wonder how, look, and this is a state that Trump won by 10,000 votes in 2016, right?
Officially.
So that, that, that would make that uncommitted, which was a hundred thousand strong, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a significant campaign.
They were running, I heard multiple ads myself and I don't get ads for that type of stuff all that often.
Now, will these folks, so, but Michigan also has this kind of, I don't want to call it an independent streak, but on both sides, the Republican party and the Democrat party, right?
Have their, their, what I guess you could call more, Uh, you know, the more conservative wing, socialist wing.
Libertarian wing.
Libertarian wing.
Like, they have their, their offshoots of the mainstream.
The Republicans, of course, and I mean, that's why Trump won so big, right?
He got all those folks out.
And the people who didn't even identify necessarily with any of those labels.
But then the Democrat Party does, right?
With Bernie Sanders.
And I don't know necessarily about Israel and Palestine.
Well, and just dissatisfaction with the status quo, right?
And then an institutional cover-up by the Democratic Party to keep him out.
And that left so many people sour.
So that was, that was to our advantage in 16.
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