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Jan. 26, 2024 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (E330): ELECTION 2024—Trump Dominates Polling as Haley Vows to Stay in Race
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I'm Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor Live, live from New York.
And here we are just a few hours after a lawsuit that would just, as a lawyer, I gotta tell you, 50 years as a lawyer, I don't believe that we have laws anymore in America, or courts or judges.
They went somewhere.
I don't know where they went, but they went somewhere because this wasn't a trial.
This was a damn circus.
There are so many things wrong with this case.
I don't think I went to law school.
How about we start with the fact that this Carol woman got $83 million.
Now that's a lot, that's a lot of money and she wasn't damaged.
All of this made her a celebrity.
Nobody knew who the hell she was.
She was living in the woods in a shack.
Now she's one of the most famous people in America.
She walks around with these coats on.
Then she brings a lawsuit against him.
This happened like 2,000 years ago.
She brings a lawsuit against him that's barred by the statute of limitations.
Now, why do we have a statute of limitations?
Because if cases get too old, people can't remember anymore, and the person can't defend themselves.
Well, they pass a law To change the statute of limitations just to get Trump.
That's illegal in and of itself.
But okay, that's just a minor one.
Then she sues him for rape.
Except she doesn't know when.
She doesn't know when.
I don't mean she doesn't know the day.
I mean, she doesn't know the year.
Now, everything I learned in law school told me that when you plead a case, You have to plead it.
Here's the word, specificity.
Specificity means you have to give particulars.
Why?
So somebody can defend themselves.
So if she says, well, he raped me sometime in 1991 to 1993, he can't defend himself.
Suppose he was in Scotland on the day she claimed she was raped.
Suppose he was in Mar-a-Lago.
The guy traveled a lot.
You want to know why she didn't give a date?
Because it never happened.
And she was afraid if she picked a date, she's going to pick a date like they did to that poor Jerr Cohen when they said he met with the Russians in Poland and he was the key to the Russian collusion.
And it turns out they gave a date.
That date, he was in Los Angeles with his son.
His son was trying out for a baseball scholarship, UCLA, USC.
I don't remember.
Not only that, He's never been to Poland in his life, and his passport demonstrates it.
So that's the problem when you're a liar and you give specifics.
But when I was taught civil procedure in law school, a complaint is dismissed for lack of specificity.
You can't be any worse than... When did it happen?
I don't know.
Can you help me?
Can you give me like a time of the year?
I don't remember.
Can you give me like a year?
Uh, 91, 92, 93.
Okay.
That's what she said.
Then all of a sudden she's on television.
She got that white coat on that she had on today.
This is the coat that I wore.
This is the coat that I wore.
When he raped me.
Because she still insists that she was raped, even though the jury said no, she wasn't raped, she was sexually assaulted.
Now I'm not sure I know the difference, but okay.
I know one is a lot less than the other.
But this is the coat that I wore.
The coat didn't exist until 2003.
Like 10 years after one of the dates that she gave.
But that's okay, the judge paid no attention to that.
Not only that, he wouldn't let them point it out to the jury.
This is crazy!
This is absolutely crazy nuts.
Now, I want you to think about where it happened.
This happened in Bergdorf Goodman, which is one of the most high-level department stores in the city, right?
Now, I go into Bergdorf Goodman every once in a while around Christmas time, or maybe around my wife's birthday, or something like that, right?
And every time I would go in, from the time I was U.S.
Attorney, and when I was U.S.
Attorney, I was well-known But I wasn't as well known as I was when I was mayor, and I wasn't as well known then as Donald Trump.
But every time I would go in, first thing that would happen is one of the store buyers would come up to me because I was a celebrity.
Can I help you?
Let me show you dresses.
Let me show you jewelry.
Let me see if I can help you.
And then all of a sudden you have two or three of them.
Donald Trump, if it happened in 91, 90, pick any of those days.
Was probably one of the best known people in New York.
You couldn't miss him.
I mean, he was on every newspaper.
He was just as well known almost as he is now.
He walks into that store, there are 10 people on him.
I mean, if he wanted to rape somebody, he couldn't.
I mean, he's surrounded by all these people.
Now, let's face it.
Whatever you think of Donald Trump, you got to figure he's a pretty smart guy, right?
You're going to rape somebody?
in one of the busiest department stores in the city of New York.
You are one of the best-known people in the city of New York, and you're gonna go into a tiny little dressing room that a six-foot-four guy has a very hard time fitting in.
And you're gonna do a tour in there?
This is nuts!
It's nuts!
It's crazy!
This didn't happen.
I was with him when she first... I know he said something unfortunate.
She's not my type.
But he makes jokes.
What can I tell you?
He makes jokes.
And she isn't.
I can also tell you, I know Donald Trump.
No, it ain't going to happen with this woman.
Just ain't going to happen.
I can guarantee you it isn't going to happen with this nut job.
I don't understand this.
I don't understand this hatred for him.
I don't understand why, even if they hate him, they want to distort our system of justice as much as they do.
The judge wouldn't let him put in a defense.
He can't defend himself.
What is he, an animal?
He can't defend himself.
He wasn't allowed to say, I didn't do it.
He, the judge, monitored the lawyer's questions.
She went over the lawyer's questions.
You heard his lawyer, the interview afterwards, cut out some of the questions, told the lawyer, you can't ask those questions.
I mean, I don't, I have, so this is another frame up.
Another frame up, $83 million, totally ridiculous amount of money.
And this is all because they don't want him to be president.
And every time they do it, he goes up by 10 more points because the American people are too smart for this.
The American people see right through it.
These people are so greedy, so jealous to keep their power.
They're going to do anything.
I worry.
Well, you know what I worry about?
Same thing Bernie Kerik worries about.
They've done everything so far that I can think of.
I keep thinking they're going to do something else.
But I can't imagine what it is.
They've accused him of collaborating with the Russians.
Totally untrue.
They were collaborating with the Ukrainians.
They accused him of offering a bribe to the president of Ukraine.
No, they did.
And the hard drive proves that he didn't.
Okay.
They took the hard drive when I put it out and they buried it for 17 months.
So the American people elect a guy where there's proof on tape that for 30 years he's been taking bribes.
And we elect him, but the American people never get that information.
And now He has four felony trials this year.
I guarantee you there's nobody in America with four felony trials this year.
John Connie didn't have four felony trials in one year.
I'm telling you, you guys are probably too young to remember.
Willie Sutton didn't have five felony trials.
The Rosenbergs didn't have five felony trials.
Nobody has five or four felony trials in one year.
By the way, it's illegal.
How can you defend yourself?
If I had just a regular client, right, just a regular... John Smith.
John Smith is a burglar.
So they're doing four separate burglary cases against him in four separate states.
And they're doing it all in one year.
I go to the judge and say, Judge, I can't defend this man.
I can't do four trials in one year.
I have to prepare.
I mean, whether he's guilty or not guilty, he's entitled to a fair trial.
I need time to prepare these, so pick one.
Or two, we'll do it this year, and one or two next year.
But they're not going to do that, because this isn't about whether Trump did something wrong or didn't do anything wrong.
This is about stopping him from being president, which is why they're all in one year.
It's also why Loverboy, Fannie Fannie's Loverboy, you know, the one who got all the money?
It's why he went to the White House a couple of times.
What's this ambulance-chasing excuse for a prosecutor to do a meeting with the White House counsel?
They're trying to orchestrate when the trial is going to take place.
Now that one I get personal about because they want to put me in jail for the rest of my life.
Just me.
I got to get stuck with an alleged crooked prosecutor.
This is really, really crazy.
First of all, there's a really good chance she's going to be in jail before Trump and me.
We may meet her in jail.
Who knows?
I mean, this is crazy!
The whole system in Georgia and Atlanta is so crooked, it'd make your head spin.
So, I mean, here's another one.
Here's another one.
I don't know what else they're going to do.
All I can tell you is this one, I can guarantee you, is not true.
This woman was not sexually assaulted by Donald Trump.
She wasn't raped by Donald Trump.
What did he call her, a wacko?
Have you listened to her being interviewed?
That rape is sexy?
What was his name?
Am I correct?
Unbelievable.
Didn't she say rape is sexy?
She said rape is sexy.
Yeah, rape is sexy.
We're gonna pull it up.
You're not entitled to say a woman like that's a little wacky.
Anderson Cooper.
Was that play for the jury?
Did the jury hear that?
Because if the jury didn't hear that, the jury didn't hear any defense for him.
If you allege that I defamed you, what I say has to be false.
Is it so false to say that somebody's wacky when they say rape is sexy?
Or at least the jury's got to hear that, right?
Give them a chance to evaluate whether I'm exaggerating or I'm not exaggerating.
You have it, Ted?
I'm pulling it up.
She looked psychotic, too, when they broke for commercial.
Watch out, you're coming to us now.
Oh, yeah.
That white coat, I mean, that was hilarious.
There's the coat I was wearing when he raped me.
The coat didn't exist when he raped you, baby.
It didn't exist.
They didn't make the coat then, unless you're 10 years off in the timing.
Yeah, but I'm not sure the jury knows that.
See, it's like you It's a terrible thing that's happened.
And the worst part of it is, I think this case is probably, almost all of these cases, if not all of them, will eventually all be thrown out.
But that isn't what they're about.
They're about tying him up right now.
They're about, right now, tying him up.
And they're rolling the dice, hoping they can get one conviction.
Then they can run around saying, look, there was a conviction.
But I'm not so sure if they convict him if he doesn't get more votes.
Because American people are very smart.
They've got common sense.
And they see the guys being framed.
Because they can't beat him.
We're going to get some polls tonight.
He's like, like taking off.
Well, I showed you a poll in New York.
He's only down in New York by 9%.
He lost by 22.
And he's leading by 3% in the Hispanic vote.
Do you know how that frightens them?
They count on the black and Hispanic vote like they own it.
I don't remember a Republican leading in the Hispanic vote.
So how are you going to beat this guy?
You got to put him in prison or something else, which is why they better protect them.
Uh, they better really, really, they better really, really protect them.
Cool.
So what, uh, so mayor, what's the, so what is the next step from just a legal standpoint?
What is the next step in this trial in this, in this situation?
I don't want to, I don't want to dignify it as a trial.
It's like, it's to appeal it.
It's going to have to appeal the original, the original, uh, verdict of, um, sexual assault.
It's going to have to appeal the debt, the damages somewhat like my case, the fact that the damages are so wacky helps.
I mean, if they can, If they're going to find, you know, 10 million, they might as well 80.
80 sounds ridiculous.
Something a little closer to reality might be a little harder to get reversed.
It makes a really good argument.
And I think they did it in three hours.
So, I mean, they pretty much had this decided the minute they saw him because New York is what, 90% Democrat.
And 80% are afflicted with Trump derangement syndrome, which I think is more dangerous in terms of spreading around than COVID.
I think if you go near somebody with Trump derangement syndrome, you catch it.
Because this judge sure as hell had it.
He would not give him time off to go to his father-in-law's funeral.
Mother-in-law's funeral.
His mother-in-law's funeral.
Wouldn't give him time off to go to his mother-in-law's funeral.
We used to let mob guys get time off to go to their relative's funeral.
I mean, come on.
Half a day?
Give the guy half a day?
Judge Kaplan, is that important?
He can't give him half a day?
Well, I hope.
To me, that's the greatest court in America.
United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.
That's where I tried my first case.
That's where I was the United States attorney.
That's where I was a law clerk to a great federal judge who never would have done anything like this.
And he has disgraced that court, Judge Kaplan.
Absolutely disgraced that court.
The decisions that he made, cutting a man off no matter who that man is and not giving him a defense, not respecting a person's human rights, What kind of judge is that?
I don't know.
And I always thought he was a good judge.
There's something sick going on.
It's like contagious.
We'll try to analyze it.
I'm going to have to have a panel of psychiatrists, I think.
And let's play.
This is E. Jean Carroll a few years back.
We'll just we'll just play the short clip of E. Jean Carroll without comment.
I was not thrown on the ground and ravished.
The word rape carries so many sexual connotations.
This was not sexual.
It hurt.
I think most people think of rape as a violent assault.
I think most people think of rape as being sexy.
Let's take a short break.
Think of the fantasies.
We're going to take a quick break.
If you can stick around, we'll talk more on the other side.
You're fascinating to talk to.
Well, you make up your own mind, okay?
You make up your own mind about her.
Now we're going to take a short break and when we come back, we're going to have Andrew Giuliani.
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Welcome back.
This is Rudy Giuliani with America's Mayor Live, and I have Andrew Giuliani with me.
Good to join you as always, Dad.
Andrew, remind us.
Well, you know, today is International Holocaust Remembrance Day.
I think it's obviously very important.
We always say never forget We say never forget when it comes to September 11th, obviously with the Holocaust as well.
And considering everything that we've seen over the last four months in this country, in Israel, obviously starting with the invasion of Israel where they attacked citizens, women, children, raped women, beheaded children, took them as hostages.
And then the reaction that you've seen on many of the pro-Hamas Uh, protesters here in the United States of America has been shocking to me.
Uh, so I think it's very important that we not only remember it, but also remember, it's very important how we teach this in the future to children, because I think what happens is a lot of times you have children that are indoctrinated by leftist progressives that think the Holocaust is an inconvenient truth that they want to bury kind of under the surface.
So, to me, it's very important that we at least remember that today as we go forward.
Yeah, probably no more important time.
I guess it's always important, but particularly with the... I'm shocked at the level of anti-Semitism that still remains in this country.
Maybe I'm naive, but I thought we were... I mean, I knew there was anti-Semitism still left, but the outbreak of it and the intensity of it Well, and just for an example of how bad it's gotten, just a few short blocks away from where we are right now is the Temple El Emanuel.
And by the way, most of the Jewish attendees there, they're pretty liberal for the most part.
Yeah, that's a liberal.
They're probably... They are pretty liberal.
To some extent, a little bit sympathetic with the Palestinians.
I would think too much.
So think about this.
You had pro-Hamas protesters today, just a few short hours ago today, that were confronting those Jewish Members of the Temple that were leaving Temple at the time and pointing at them and throwing water on them just a few short hours ago on Holocaust Remembrance Day.
So see the anti-Semitism that's going on and they're trying to mask it with anti-Zionism?
It's not.
Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism and they're proving it now.
If you needed to know, if you thought, if you had any doubts that anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism were not linked, You can see it right now.
They're absolutely linked and you can see exactly what these protesters, how they're going about their, their sad, terrible business.
Because textbooks in Palestine, which come from the UN, they're taught to hate Israel, to hate Jews, and most of all death to America.
And we're, and we're, and we're protesting in their favor and they want to kill us.
Stupid.
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing I want to, you just ran in New York.
So you've got a nice current experience of how tough it is to be a Republican in New York.
Recent poll, a couple of days ago, Trump is losing by 9%.
He lost his state, I think, by 22, 23, something like that.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's winning the Hispanic vote.
And this is a very liberal Hispanic vote in New York.
I mean, it gets a lot less liberal as you go around the country.
He's winning it by 3%. I think this this Hispanic vote used to be very liberal in New York. I think
a couple of different things have happened and I started seeing this on the campaign trail
and it happened and evolved even before then. I think you could start you started to see this
in Trump's second run in 2020 and the numbers, while you know they weren't, while he wasn't
close to winning New York in 2020, he brought it down from I think 20 he lost by 26 or 27 to
Hillary in 2016 and he brought it down like 22 or something like that so you could see and a lot of
that.
Where he made the progress was with Asian American New Yorkers and with Hispanic American New Yorkers.
And I think it was for a couple of different reasons.
One, I think you looked at the educational opportunities and what was being taught.
And a lot of people, frankly, could not stand the DEI agenda that was being pushed on their children.
And by the way, They had the opportunity to see it that year in 2020, and they've seen it more since because of the absurd, draconian COVID policies in New York, where they weren't letting kids, the teachers union was not letting kids back in school for a year and a half.
And I was talking about this the other day at Moms4Liberty.
You know, it was amazing.
It was just this spring that I could remember going by my local public school And seeing kids outside outdoors with masks on that were still socially distanced.
And I was thinking and focused on the data or science.
So I think a lot of New Yorkers who have experienced this over the last few years.
I think they may have kind of been awoken to some of this and maybe some that might not have liked.
Some of the personality of Trump, if you will, because I hear that a lot from the left.
I hear that a lot from independents and all that.
So I can't do that.
I think they might've looked and said, well, you know what?
We like actually our freedom and our constitution more.
Uh, and by the way, we like our constitutional Republic.
I know they talk about a democracy, save our democracy.
It's a limited democracy.
It's a constitutional Republic.
So, um, I think actually Dr. Maria broke that down very well on the show a couple of weeks ago, if I'm not mistaken.
But I think that's what's happening in the Hispanic community.
And I think that's what's happening with New Yorkers statewide.
Look, I mean, the guy I ran against who ended up beating me in the primary, Zeldin, he came six and a half, seven points away.
Yeah, that was much quicker than in a long time.
I think it was, but I think you've had a lot of people that are fed up.
And you know better than probably anybody, to be honest, not just anybody living, probably anybody, that when New Yorkers do get fed up, They will look across party lines and say, hey, you know, it's not like a place like Chicago, let's say.
And I know we're talking state versus city, but Chicago hasn't voted for a Republican in a hundred plus years.
I think it's even more, right?
I mean, it's over a hundred, whereas at least New York occasionally, right?
You've gotten obviously two terms of Rui Giuliani.
Bloomberg was a Republican for a while.
Pataki, they voted for Reagan in 1984.
So this is, it's not, look, If I'm handicapping it, New York is still a long shot for Trump.
But let's put it this way.
If Trump is within single digits in New York, then he's at 350 electoral votes.
And you need 270 to win.
If he's within, if they have to spend money in New York, they're in deep trouble.
It would be like our having to spend money in Mississippi or Alabama or someplace like that.
The reality is that it's got to be frightening to them, no matter what they say, that he's within nine points.
And you know, Cara Castronova had this piece on Newsmax about a week or two ago.
She went up to the Bronx, the Southern Bronx, and she said, and I think she, I put certain people on, but people think I orchestrated.
I couldn't find a single Hispanic that wasn't voting for her.
I went up there to show how maybe things are a little closer, a little closer.
I got overwhelmed.
They're begging me to have a rally up here for them.
She said, I swear to God, everybody was for him.
Oh yeah, we like that guy.
What about his personality?
I mean, he's tough.
Yeah.
Somebody tough.
One of them said, they're saying he caused chaos.
Chaos!
Chaos!
How are we going to change it without chaos?
And I think also, look, one of the things that can't be overrated, especially in the Hispanic, and look, when you talk about the Hispanic community in New York, it's very diverse, right?
I mean, Puerto Rican, Dominican, they're very different, right?
I mean, they're very different communities within New York.
And it's also a different Hispanic community than you'll see maybe in some of the other Western swing states than you'd see in an Arizona, potentially, or in Nevada.
Did I pronounce that right?
Nevada or Nevada?
I know that's always a big... Yeah, I still haven't figured that out yet, Andrew.
Whoever, whoever, if, you know, I ever have to be out there... Comment below.
...talking, being a surrogate for something like that, then please help me put the... Nevada or Nevada?
Nevada.
Put A-H if it's Nevada.
Nevada.
I have a problem with New York.
...if you know it, right?
Comment below if you know.
Because, you know, we accept New York or New York because either way works.
Either way works.
We'll accept either one.
New York.
We're very accepting in New York.
Houston or Houston?
I say, I say Houston.
What do you, what is it?
Of course I say Houston.
What is it?
Is it Houston?
Right?
It's Houston Street.
Houston Street, right?
It's Houston.
It's Houston.
Absolutely.
Oh, Houston.
In Texas, it's Houston.
Oh, it's Houston.
Yes, but in New York, it's Houston.
And the experts are telling us it's Nevada.
Nevada.
Nevada.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're thinking I'm all smart.
I was talking a lot about that yesterday.
And I made the mistake here.
What about Missouri or Missouri?
So comment below.
Only if you know.
We don't need people commenting here if they don't know.
Is it pronounced Missouri or Missouri?
I'm gonna tell you.
I'll let you know what they're telling us.
But anyway.
Somebody told me that in the northern part of the state it's Missouri and the southern part of the state it's Missouri.
Really?
So if anybody knows, let me know.
So nothing there.
Someone's telling me Oregon is Oregon.
Oregon?
But we knew that!
Oregon.
I knew that.
Oregon.
Oregon.
Who says Oregon?
That sounds like a Brooklyn pronunciation.
Liberty 1776, so a very patriotic American, apparently.
Well, Eastern Oregon might end up being Idaho one day, it sounds like, because I remember following that story a few months back.
But going back to New York here, just to put a little icing on this cake, if New York is single digits, it means New Jersey ends up being in play.
It means he's looking very good in Pennsylvania.
Do you think Trump should have a rally in New York?
position if they have to spend money let's say in a place like New Jersey
which if I'm not mistaken has somewhere between an 11 and 13 electoral votes so
it's got a nice chunk of electoral votes Pennsylvania with about 20 electoral
votes New York I want to say has 26 we have 26 members of Congress now so
we're ahead by 800,000 votes I thought we had that one.
Yeah, geez, tell me about it.
Tell me about it. So anyway it bodes well. Do you think Trump should have a
Are you a Rowley nuke?
Yes.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah?
I do.
I think he should have a rally in New York.
You know, he would get a great reception.
Okay, so he'd have a little interruption here and there.
He'd get a little interruption, but he'd get an overwhelming reception.
Where should he do it?
Oh, I already have an answer, but wait, wait, wait for the mayor to say first.
Let's go around, let's go around.
As the only non-New Yorker here.
The Secret Service would never let him do neutral standing.
I was going to say, well, I don't want to say it.
Where do you think you should do it?
I think in the Bronx where you could do it.
I'm thinking all five boroughs.
Maybe he should do it right in front of the courthouse where they just tried to take 90 million dollars in front of him and make all the judges come.
That's where he should do it.
Right in front of the mayor.
You told me about the scene from the movie.
You told me about the scene from the movie.
Because I lived in, yeah.
But you worked there and then you told me the scene in the famous movie.
That's the state courthouse.
We're talking about the Gotsi Center.
You go there and you told me the whole scene and you were telling the reporters too.
Yeah.
You were sitting there telling us the scene from The Godfather.
That's a different courthouse, the state courthouse.
Right next to it.
Right next oh yeah right next to where you were.
What you were looking at today was the new federal courthouse that was built behind the new traditional yeah.
Where you would have worked.
The big beautiful building uh Gosh, it's on.
You see it all the time.
60 Center Street?
Yeah.
Is that where it is?
Yeah.
I mean, it's a gorgeous building.
I worked in that building for two years as a law clerk and five years as an assistant U.S.
attorney.
So I worked in that building for seven years.
A great building.
Then the U.S.
attorney's office was moved in back where they built the U.S.
attorney's office and the prison Where Epstein killed himself.
Got me.
Where Epstein was suicided, right?
I gotta tell you.
Suicided.
That is the least likely prison somebody could kill themselves.
The ceilings are low.
It's very small.
You can see almost everywhere.
And we have a subscription special where you talk about it.
The mayor knows that facility, maybe more than most, having been the U.S.
Attorney for the Southern District in New York.
I never lost anybody there.
Nobody committed suicide on me.
Yeah, nameless criminals, you know, as opposed to, let alone someone like Epstein, who should have been the most guarded man.
In the world, but back to Andrew's question, no one's given a real location yet.
Well, I guess, let's put it.
Thank you.
Anthony's coming up.
Yeah, you stay.
Get him a chair.
I think Anthony's coming up.
Yeah, you say.
Get him a chair.
You think you can get 50,000.
Yeah.
Yeah, I see.
The Secret Service would go nuts.
He would get $50,000.
I think the mayor would try to block it.
I think the mayor and the governor would try to figure out how they could block it.
I think they would.
They don't really believe in the Constitution and the First Amendment.
I'm surprised none of you, I'm the only non-New Yorker here.
I'm going to get honorary status at some point.
Madison Square Garden.
Madison Square Garden.
Indoor.
Okay.
Oh, you made the point.
Indoor, yeah.
Indoor, yeah.
Depending on what time of year.
But I'm thinking, New York, I don't care what they say, it's a liberal city, it's still the most American of American places.
Honestly, you're probably going to do it now in the spring or something.
You know, for me, I can tell you, in the White House in 2018, I was pushing hard for him to go and do a rally at the Staten Island Yankee Stadium, which now is the Ferry Hawks.
Stadium because I thought view.
You think about tha Manhattan.
It's amazing.
I island ferry.
that view, the backdrop it's amazing. It's right
ferry. It looks gorgeous.
very competitive uh cong year where actually I thi
up defeating our good fri race and I thought maybe
You know, sometimes you win turf battles in the White House, sometimes you lose them, and that one I lost.
But I thought he would have made a difference, and it was only, you know, a 15-minute Marine One ride from Bedminster.
And so I thought it made a lot of sense.
Staten Island, obviously, being the one red borough.
But Staten Island is like going to your home territory.
It is.
You almost want to go into the place.
Yeah, but you know, Trump, he only won the biggest place and the best place, Yankee Stadium.
Yeah, it's all over Yankee Stadium.
He'd push the Secret Service for Yankee.
Where'd he go for it?
He wouldn't think about Yankee.
It has to be big.
It's huge.
And Yankee Stadium.
27 World Championships.
Ali's fought in Yankee Stadium.
The Pope has been at Yankee Stadium, right?
Everybody's been at Yankee Stadium.
If the Pope's been there, then Trump should be there.
I mean, I've watched many, many games with him there.
He was a big Yankee, a big friend of George Steinberger.
Yeah?
Yeah, he and George were like... They were buddies?
That's how I really got to know Donald, through George.
What about when presidents used to...
Go down, you sit back, I don't even, Nixon or Kennedy, where they'd campaign in New York City.
I don't know if it was downtown or Fifth Avenue, but you'd see JFK, I think, did a rally in New York City.
I think even Nixon did it.
It was crazy as that sounds.
JFK did a big thing, but you would never do that now.
That was before he got assassinated.
It was an open car.
Yeah.
Open car thing, and then he did a rally at Madison Square Garden.
You're right.
Didn't they, in like consecutive weeks, Nixon and JFK in 1960, they had like parades in New York.
I think that's an era in which New York was very, very close.
Kennedy won it by that much.
Eisenhower had won it twice.
How would Rockefeller have done?
Rockefeller, the governor of New York, the governor of New York was a Republican, Rockefeller, at the time.
He was almost a nominee.
In fact, Kennedy was very afraid of running against Rockefeller.
He thought Rockefeller could defeat him because he's a little bit more moderate.
The last thing in the world that he wanted to do is run against Rockefeller.
Probably afraid of the money, too.
Yeah.
When Kennedy won the West Virginia primary against Hubert Humphrey, He won it very, very close by only one or two percent.
And the real question was whether a Catholic could win that.
So the morning, the morning that he won at the press said, how was he only won by one or two percent?
He said, my father wouldn't pay for a Lancelot.
Then along came Barry Goldfarb.
He paid for the money for a Lancelot.
He paid for just enough in Chicago, though, right?
He just paid for enough in Chicago.
Andrew, guess where the Democrat National Convention is this summer?
Well, I know the Republican one is Milwaukee.
The Democrats are back to Chicago.
And Chicago-Milwaukee is only a short drive from each other.
I mean, it's less than an hour, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Can you imagine the DNC?
We're going to take a short break.
We're going to pass this on off to Anthony.
Anthony?
Love you.
We're waving to Grace.
Grace, you want to come say a quick hello to everybody?
Come here, one sec, before we... Hold the commercial break for one second.
You've got the best Giuliani.
I'm second, but this is the best one in waiting right here.
Grace, look, you're on TV.
Can you say hello?
Who's saying hi?
Who's this?
Somebody a little shy?
That's okay.
You'll get out of that.
The Giuliani's blood ends up taking that out of you pretty quickly.
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Thank you so much.
Mr. Anthony Pacina, owner and operator of Grimaldi's, and you, if you're from New York, you definitely know Grimaldi's.
You definitely know Grimaldi's.
But this is an honor to be here with the greatest mayor in the whole entire world, that this is the real New York.
I feel so good to come here tonight talking about all stories that New York was real New York.
He cleaned up.
He cleaned for the good, cleaned for the bad.
Every day was something.
Every day was an experience, Mr. Giuliani, with the mayor and the office.
You wake up, we had a new law.
And then... And you got hit by a couple of them.
Oh, you hit me good.
You hit me good.
Wait, wait, wait.
What do you mean he hit you good?
The limousine business.
Oh, he hit me good.
Yeah, we've been in the limousine business for 42 years with Presidential Limousine.
And one morning, we wake up, all of a sudden, we hear a thing called Taxi Limousine Commission.
What the hell is that?
We used to have Z-plates.
A Z-plate in the car used to be a rental plate, a Z. All of a sudden he goes, we have to get TLC plates, we have to get diamonds, we have to get a tech stamp, we have to have TLC drivers.
My God, that's impossible to do this.
And plus, we had to have drivers who knew where they were going.
Because he put into a law saying... People had to know English.
They had to speak English.
Like, you know, you get in the cab and you say, take me to the Bronx.
Next thing you know, you're in Boston.
The Bronx.
Oh, then he used to have things on the meter.
He used to speed the meter.
He stopped that too for the cabs.
I wasn't a cab guy.
I was the limo guy.
Oh, he stopped the meter thing?
Yeah, he used to speed the meter.
Taxi's away.
Yo, God, yeah.
How did he?
He picked up a poor guy at the airport.
$250,000 to take him to the city.
Yeah!
And how did he, how did the mayor?
He stopped it.
TLC.
TLC would come in and inspect.
Inspect the meter.
So they'd be undercover at TLC.
In the cab.
Yeah, they used to have the TLC outside with a suitcase.
Yeah.
You know, the guy with the cab picks him up, gets him in the cab.
He's driving a TLC officer, drops him in the city.
$200.
Next thing you know, the guy's in handcuffs, gone.
Bye-bye.
He cleaned that up.
He cleaned that up in about a week and a half.
You know, I'm going to tell you the funniest thing, Tony.
The funniest thing is... That's so funny.
When I was the mayor, sometimes I'd be walking along the street and the cabs would go by, particularly the yellow cabs, because I was really tough on them.
And they'd throw me the finger, right?
They'd yell at me, throw me the finger, call, such and such.
I'm gone about two or three years.
I was traveling a lot.
And one day I take a cab and I get in the cab and the guy says, Oh, I wish you came back.
Bloomberg is so terrible.
Then de Blasio, they think I was, I was wonderful.
So don't say anything.
All right.
No, I think I was much easier on them and much kinder than the present mayor.
I was terrible.
In fact, I did a skit on Saturday night live where I played a taxi driver making fun of me.
Yeah.
Freakin' Giuliani!
Freakin This is what they would make in front of the cab driver.
The person would get into the cab and it would say, this is Barbara Walters, welcome to the Capitol.
And the passenger would say, could you please put that off?
Put it off!
Friggin' Giuliani makes me play his damn thing!
You only have to hear it once all day!
Welcome to New York!
Welcome to New York!
F for you!
F for you!
We had Joan Rivers too!
Joan Rivers!
I gotta listen to Joan Rivers!
I gotta listen to this one and that one!
Hard enough doing his job with these bums here on the radio!
Oh, it was fun.
Yeah, I know.
Then it was, like, on 42nd Street, it was called Show World, and they used to have a girl, like, sitting on a horse, like...
It was all gone.
Shut it down.
They cleaned that up.
They cleaned up Times Square.
What was Times Square like in the 70s?
In the 70s?
Oh man.
Taxi driver.
What's a taxi driver?
He drives back and forth a number of times and they do the best job of capturing all the drug dealers.
It was so bad they would not do live porn there.
But you know what everybody never experienced?
A pimp.
They never saw a real pimp.
Remember the pimps?
With the pimp cars?
With the hat?
They really did.
That was real.
Because you hear about that in the movies, right?
In movies, they'll have a pimp in a big furry coat.
Oh, New York was... That was a real thing.
Oh, that was real.
That was real.
And they all had North Carolina planes.
North Carolina planes?
Oh, North Carolina, South Carolina.
Why the Carolinas?
I don't know.
But they had the most beautiful cars.
I mean, I thought they were that beautiful, but they were, they stood out.
Yeah.
A lot of money.
Doesn't De Niro kill the pimp in Taxi Driver?
I think so.
And it becomes a hero.
Yeah.
He becomes like a hero.
He goes to jail for some very short period of time.
And when he comes out, he's a big hero for killing the pimp.
Yeah.
Pimps usually don't work out well in movies, right?
The character in your, the pimps don't usually.
In movies they kind of, yeah.
One week.
One week.
When he became mayor?
I would say, Frankie, about a month he cleaned it up.
In the early 90s?
After he became mayor?
It's Times Square.
And then?
But Times Square became Disney World, which is not- Yeah, that's- Jimmy Breslin.
Jimmy Breslin.
60 Minutes did a big thing on the cleaning up of Times Square.
Most people like it.
They go to Jimmy Breslin.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
I like the better one of prostitutes.
I will call her.
The next morning in my press conference, then they say, What do you have to say about Jimmy Breslin not liking it, the prostitute guy?
I said, nobody asked the prostitutes if they mind Jimmy Breslin.
That's actually, that's funny.
That's a great response.
It's like America's front yard, right?
I look, I think at Times Square as the first, as one of the early places, people that visit America, they come to New York City, Midtown Manhattan, and they still do.
Yeah, Times Square, I'm saying right now.
So a mayor was instrumental in creating that.
125th Street was much more important.
We changed that.
Right in the middle of Harlem.
We got rid of all of the illegal vendors.
And people used to always say, well, none of the big stores will go to Harlem because they're racist.
They wouldn't go to Harlem because they couldn't make any money.
Because all the illegal vendors were out there.
So you open a shop to sell shoes.
Right outside is a guy that's selling the shoes for much less and not paying taxes.
So we cleaned them all out.
We turned them over to the Malcolm X mosque.
To put them in, if they wanted to sell anything, they had to do it under the auspices of the imam, who was tough as nails.
And all of a sudden, all the big stores started to come in, because you can make as much money at home as anyplace else.
And it really helped with the turnaround.
You did some with the Apollo Theater too, right?
Apollo Theater.
He did a whole big... He remodeled the whole Apollo.
He redid the whole thing.
But do you remember the guys from... It was a group.
They used to preach on Times Square in the middle.
Remember those guys with the sticks?
Oh, yeah.
Whatever happened to those guys?
Rob will know.
Usually black dudes, right?
Yeah, yeah.
They had sticks.
Really nasty, but they preached.
Yeah, they're in D.C.
You can't do that now.
You can't behave like that.
Some sort of Israel connection.
That's it.
There is a group of black Israelites.
So I got to put in a little pitch for you, for your place.
It's great.
Oh, we're talking about pizza, really?
Not only is the pizza terrific, and New York is the best place in the world for pizza, and Grimaldi's is the best place to go, but he's in a, what is it, a 19th century church.
19th century church that then was the Limelight?
The Limelight.
And then Scorsese.
No, right now it's just the Limelight.
So we're just the Limelight.
And it's a great place to get pizza, you know, and just take it home.
But it's also a great place to hang out.
Oh my goodness, so much fun.
You know what I just found out?
Now another thing, another thing happened.
There's no cabaret licenses no more.
Is this true?
I don't know.
Why is that?
Why is it no cabaret license?
I don't know.
I just heard it and I said, well, we don't need a cabaret license.
Nobody needs a cabaret license.
I said, I can't find that hard to believe.
We used to have to purchase a cabaret license for a club to go dancing and stuff and no more.
Well, I have a question.
You have to have a liquor license.
You have a liquor license, yes.
So we have a lot of people that tune in from around the world, not just here in New York.
Anthony.
Yes.
And so when it comes to, when it comes to New York City, you're getting a slice of pizza.
Obviously Grimaldi's is the first place they need to go.
Correct.
Give us a, or what should people be, what part of town?
Give some, give us, give some tips to a tourist who's visiting New York.
A real New Yorker though, not tourist.
You have two iconic things.
You have Grimaldi's and you have the Limelight.
Limelight is an iconic nightclub that was, it's known for, from, Every, from Madonna to Guns N' Roses, to every group that played there, and you can feel it in the walls.
It has the vibe still.
And you're never going to get rid of that vibe.
It doesn't have the church vibe.
The church vibe is gone.
You have to go digging for it.
You go behind.
The mayor knows everything.
And I know all about churches.
It was an Episcopalian church.
It was an Episcopalian church.
So it has the vibe.
And then you go in with the pizzas.
We made a special pizza oven from Italy, from Naples, made by Giuseppe.
He comes in, he makes us an oven, never shuts off, 365 days a year.
It's on 1400 degrees.
And we buy our coal from America, from U.S.
Coal Company, from Pennsylvania.
You shop by me, you buy coal?
Well, did you tell me about wood oven pizza?
That was a big issue recently.
Coal.
No, we're coal.
We're coal oven.
Coal, 1400 degrees.
Yeah, yeah.
What makes a good pizza?
A good pizza is New York water.
New York water, the flour, and the cheese.
The cheese is very important.
We get a lot of cheese imported from Italy, and we make the curry here in New York.
So it's like bagels and pizza.
Exactly.
You can't make that.
The water!
You can't get it in Italy.
It's the water.
I've heard that before.
It's the water.
It's the water, and then the ingredients.
It's a pizza, right?
But you got the thin, you got thin, the medium, and then the Sicilian.
Yes.
The Sicilian is the thick.
It's a thicker, it's a thicker dough.
Yeah.
But we, ours was very thin.
But the other day we had a frozen pipe, and we had to make the pizza.
So now, somebody told me, which maybe it's true or not, I don't know, but it came out, we made one batch of non-New York water, came out good, using the sunny water.
And he says New York has the same kid.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
It wasn't bad for an emergency.
So maybe anybody in another state, try it.
Go buy Dasani water, put it inside there.
I think you should.
It's New York water.
They purify it or they say they purify it.
I opened up a Dasani place in Queens.
So I'm like, this is when I was first mayor, maybe the first or second year.
So I'm there.
I think it's owned by Coke.
It's by Coca-Cola, yeah.
So I say to them, this is really, oh, I drink some water.
This is really terrific.
He said, let me tell you a secret.
So what's the secret?
It's your water.
Yeah, it's all water.
I said, what do you mean?
It's my water.
We should just take the near pool through here, you know.
It's all water.
I said, my guy, I go buy a bunch of the salty water, put it inside.
It made good dough.
You can tell the difference if it's not New York water.
Oh, for sure.
It's the way it is.
New York has exceptionally good water.
In fact, when I was mayor, some of the places used to call it Giuliani water.
Oh, you love that.
They made a little pitcher of Giuliani water.
The reason it's so good is we get it from the mountains.
Our water comes from very far away.
It comes from two places.
It comes from the Catskill Mountains up north and it comes from the Delaware Water Gap out near Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
And we have three aqueducts that are God given and they were made a hundred years ago.
We just opened a new one so we can clean one of the old ones.
And, uh, so the, the water comes from like the mountains, mountain water.
And it's, it's, uh, It's probably right near the top in terms of water in America.
You would never think it in America's biggest city.
Water is very important in New York.
Well, OK, so you're a little biased, right?
You're going to suggest pizza.
Maybe both of you, as just New Yorkers through and through, can give us somewhere else to eat.
A non-pizza option or maybe not eat or you know something to do in new york something a little bit different give our viewers you know a lot of our viewers never been to new york or from you know michigan i'm gonna give you something other than italian food no no we're gonna switch the question it's not food we're staying away from food you gotta go to grimaldi's that's it oh there is no second place for food come up give us like uh five in the morning yeah experience you don't know who you gotta go to grimaldi's great i tell you that because it's all yeah it's a lot of fun before the where do you go
Okay, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Yeah, I'm a Studio 54 guy from early, but there's nothing like that.
So right now if I'm gonna make a regular... There are clubs now, right?
They're not like... Like literally Studio 54 was a club on 54th Street in New York.
Studio 54 started with Steve Rebell, Fleischman, And they did a fantastic job.
They opened it with no liquor license.
They opened it with a daily liquor license.
Like, every day you buy a liquor license.
And that's how they started.
When was that?
When exactly?
77?
Okay, and it closed in the 80s.
The place was only open for like 10 years?
Nah, maybe 7, 10 years.
That's it?
It's this place that I hear everything.
How did that... Okay, tell us.
You used to hang out there?
Every night I was there.
Man, were you ever at Studio 54?
No, I was first in Washington.
Oh, okay.
I was working in the Reagan administration.
Okay.
That was Ronald Reagan.
Okay.
And then I was U.S.
Attorney, so I wasn't.
Studio 54, they just opened it up.
It was just an empty studio.
I mean, you've got Studio 54.
I probably have some FBI agents in there, but I don't know.
So what's Studio 54?
Studio 54, they just opened it up.
It was just an empty studio.
They put down those little square floors, plywood, made a little stage,
and then he didn't open the doors for two weeks.
He left it closed.
Nobody can get in.
It was empty.
And he's standing outside, and a line started building up, building up, building up, before it was ever open.
You're talking about when I first saw it.
But he never let people inside.
He said, we're full.
We can't do it.
Oh.
So then there was a gentleman called Mark Bennecke.
He used to stand on top of the fire hydrant and pick.
I want you.
I want you.
And it remained in the closet?
Yes.
And then it started.
And then that's what started.
Is there anything up?
If you had to pick a place right now that was as like that possible to that, what would you bring?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I know a lot of them are down on the west side.
It's different now.
Like 30.
It's different.
What kind of age group?
30th street to about 20th.
Yeah, there's Slate.
Good guys.
Taj.
Good place.
You can't even tell that they're They look like warehouses.
You go inside, they're nice, but they look fancy.
We used to have a place called the Meatpacking District, but that was the real meat.
Downstairs was the veal company, and downstairs was these after-hour clubs.
That's where everybody used to go from studio to there.
That's where Plexiglas shot himself in the foot.
So even up until recently, maybe even now, that's still what happens.
Not necessarily.
The meatpacking is totally different.
These are after-hour clubs.
These weren't exactly... Real meatpacking.
This was the real... The meat used to come over from New Jersey.
Yes.
The meat would come over, it would be brought in from Chicago, it would stop in New Jersey, and then there'd be barges that would bring it right across the river.
And then from the meatpacking district, they'd go to all the restaurants around town?
They'd go to the basements on the bottom, and they opened up clubs.
Because they just had these open spaces?
No, somebody just had a great idea, and it was tremendous, and then from there, I don't know how all of a sudden they got rid of all the meat.
They put it away in Brooklyn, knocked everything down and made it.
It's pretty lively now, right?
I think my daughter lived in Brooklyn for a while, Caroline, and I used to go there and visit her and we'd always find like a new restaurant that they were trying out.
Yeah, the hipster.
I thought of Brooklyn as a place where they would try out restaurants.
Yeah.
I thought of Brooklyn as a place where they would try out restaurants.
Yeah.
Brooklyn. Yeah.
Oh, but there's no more.
I don't know any good restaurants.
It's still around.
Rossini's?
I just saw Rossini's.
That's good.
Very good.
That's an old-time restaurant.
Great Italian restaurant.
That's like the original location where Italians first came.
Was it Brooklyn?
No, the original location was Lower Manhattan.
Lower East Side.
Okay.
Father is a great example of that.
John's was one of them down there.
One of the original ones there.
My family went to the Lower East Side.
Then they moved to East Harlem, which was an Italian area.
This is the only thing left.
And fat Tony's Social Club until I shut it down.
And then they moved to Queens.
Then they moved to Jackson Heights in Queens.
And then they moved to Queens.
You've got to be honest.
Queens.
Then they moved to Jackson Heights in Queens and then they moved to Long Island.
Now they're in Long Island.
Yeah.
Well, now it's everywhere.
All places, I would say, Frank, all places more like a, like a family.
It's like, it's like, um, everybody comes in and they have their own tables.
Yeah.
Sit down.
In the middle of Manhattan.
You guys have to check this one.
Give us the address.
Oh, okay.
656 6th Avenue between 20 and 21 street.
You can't miss it.
A big church, a big red door.
You go inside and that's it.
And it's a lot of fun and you'll have a great time.
What should folks get when they do come to Grimaldi's or in New York City?
What should they be getting?
They should be getting their balance of nature, right?
The veggies and the fruits.
The veggies and the fruits.
Don't forget balanceofnature.com.
They should be getting their balance of nature, right?
They should get their balance of nature.
The veggies and the fruits, the veggies and the fruits.
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And you got to get your pillows from MyPillows.
Oh, he's a good guy.
Would you please help that guy?
They threw him off Fox!
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Like a red pillowcase.
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And red slippers.
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Because, I mean, I have no idea why they threw him off Fox.
Fox, you know, if you say anything that offends them, they throw you off.
And they hate Trump.
They hate Trump.
And they're pushing so hard for the lady who doesn't know the cause of the Civil War.
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Now you got him!
Now you got him!
That's all!
You're coming down!
Well, if you're in New York City for Valentine's Day and you got a date, you gotta have...
Let's say it's your first Valentine's Day.
Oh, you can find a date.
That's what I'm saying.
Now you got him.
Now you got him.
That's all.
You're coming to get him.
Come on.
Answer it.
Who, you ask?
We had a lady come in, I swear.
We have a pizza woman in front, a pretty looking blonde, with a little expensive dog.
She sat inside the pizza box.
I have no idea why.
What do you mean?
Wait, wait, wait.
I swear.
I can't.
I have the picture.
The lady did on the door.
No, the lady.
Right, Frankie?
She went inside the pizza box.
Why don't you keep the pizzas hot?
Hot?
Oh, hot box.
She went inside and posed.
Oh, and posed.
Oh, it's for Instagram now.
It's for the Instagram.
Rest very high.
Beautiful.
It's freezing.
Oh, it's an Instagram thing.
It's for a picture, right?
Yeah, but then she went to Burgdorf.
I was going to keep my mouth shut.
I didn't say nothing.
No, she was in the box.
Yeah, I have that picture.
You're here, you see that.
I'm sure something like that happens every night.
Oh, you have no idea.
New York is crazy.
You got to understand New York is a little... New York is... and then we have like a different group of people every night that come in.
We have groups from... and I tell you the truth, they're very polite.
You know, at certain hours of the night when their place is closed down, they come in, they'll hang out these It's a very attractive woman coming in.
Yeah.
All the clogs.
That's how they're going to come by the pizza place.
What business are you guys in?
We're Dominatrix.
Oh, wait, seven, eight of them.
Then you get, and you can kind of match them with the right pizza, right?
Oh, no, but that's New York is New York.
You never, it's a fun place.
It's not fun no more.
When you come here, you're safe.
It's fun.
It's old times way it is.
I want a great way to break the ice with a potential A. You get great stories.
If you can't get a date in Grimaldi's, forget about it.
Right, Frankie?
Oh, Mike, listen.
My friend has a gentleman's club across the street.
You have more fun in Grimaldi's than going over there.
See that?
You don't have to go to one of those gentleman's clubs.
And you'll impress them.
Guaranteed.
Guaranteed.
You're going to impress the heck out of your date.
You take your date to Grimaldi's?
And you'll make sure that they're taken care of.
Whether you're Mayor Giuliani or me, you're taken care of.
You gotta come and have a good time.
You gotta come at night.
And now there's no cabaret license, so now they're allowed to dance between the tables.
I wasn't letting people do that because I was thinking I'd get in trouble.
Now come on, dance between the tables, have a good time.
Is that downtown or midtown?
I live in Soho.
Chelsea, Chelsea.
Right in Manhattan, that's 6th Avenue.
Yeah.
Like midtown, downtown.
What would you say, Andrew?
20th and 27th Avenue.
28th and 27th.
But one time, another time, we got time to tell you stories about Uber drivers and Grubhub and all these drivers that... They come by for pizza?
No.
You give them a pie, right, Frankie?
Yeah.
I asked them.
I have some fun with them.
They said, how long are you in the country for?
Two, three weeks.
Two, three weeks.
And I said, you're going to bring this pie to some building, deliver it, they'll know who you are, and it's insane.
That's when I got in trouble with them, when I required that they take a test identifying places in New York because they couldn't speak English.
They'd say, take me to Yankee Stadium, you'd end up at Fenway Park.
Oh, that was a really true story.
But now, because of these, this is what makes the difference.
Oh, these are the worst things in the world.
You know what?
People have more personality.
Oh, forget about it.
Oh, young me.
Yeah.
You know what I like?
Everyone's staring at their phone.
You go to a club now, everybody's standing around going like this.
You know what I like?
I love this one.
Yeah.
When the girl comes in and they make a date online, right?
They do a computer dating.
They come in, you can see the girl sitting there waiting, all the guys waiting.
All of a sudden the person comes.
It's not what that picture is on the computer.
You can tell when you want to see.
But I always thought that was stupid.
I mean, what's going to happen?
You make yourself look really beautiful or whatever.
You're really not.
The first thing that's going to happen is the person's going to go, oh god.
Yeah, but what if you have a great personality?
You've got to get in the door!
You've got to get in the door!
If you can get in the door, you can sell it faster.
So, you've got to get in the door.
I get the strategy behind it.
I'm not condoning such... I'm not catfishing, but it's called catfishing.
I get the idea behind it, though.
Democrats were in favor of... You know why they wanted masks?
Well... Right?
psychologically neutered. So to be honest, see, if you brought him in, we used to play...
I was gonna ask, how'd you meet girls in your era?
I was the best, right?
Well, you're in your era.
We'd be raped now, we'd be in jail for rape. We'd buy him a drink, you know, hug him,
come on, let's go dance, hug him. No, you can't hug no more.
And dance, we used to dance, oh my god, the guys who don't want to dance, you can be
around, they're nice, beautiful.
Forget about it. My legal advice will be, you get a waiver immediately.
You meet the girl, you go up to her at the bar, please sign that.
I'm not a famous person to do that now.
Even when you were in college, weren't they thinking of, weren't the men thinking of getting like having to sign something?
That was around Duke and Cross.
So weren't the guys thinking about having the girls sign like a waiver or Well, the thing for me in college was I was with the law school.
I wasn't there that night, but I was very good friends with many of those guys, and it was one of the first examples.
Yeah, I was one of the first examples in the social media era, I think, of the facts Almost.
The media taking the facts and putting them aside and pushing a narrative and putting the facts completely on the side.
And actually, the district attorney got disbarred in a 90-minute hearing.
That's how quickly he got disbarred and had to go to jail for what he did.
So, I mean, that's kind of one of the lasting memories with regard to that.
Does that have a big impact on the male students?
I don't know if it had an impact on the male students, but I think to me, what it had an impact on was almost the strategy that we're seeing on the left in so many ways and how they deal with the media.
It's very similar to what happened with Kavanaugh.
It's similar, I believe, to what's happened to you in many things, what's happened to Trump as recently as today in all this.
So I think you can see a real pattern with, hey, look, we have our headlines written.
The facts may say something, but we're going to put those aside.
We're going to write the headlines.
We're going to push this out.
And we'll deal with the facts later.
They shame people.
And that comes out.
That was a tragedy with those kids.
Terrible.
Absolutely terrible.
They were completely vindicated.
But again, there's still some people out there that say, well, you know what the truth is?
All the facts of the case were out there.
They proved it beyond any doubt.
The prosecutor went to prison.
The prosecutor went to prison and by the way, all the DNA pointed to that she was 100% lying.
So there you are.
I mean, nowadays you do have to be much more careful.
You have to be careful.
Ray Donovan.
Oh, I remember Ray Donovan.
Do you know I turned that case down before Morolla prosecutors found not guilty?
Famous phrase was, somebody has to tell me what door I could go back in this building to to get my reputation back.
Yeah, I like Mario.
I like Mario a lot.
We used to play softball against each other, the DA's office and the U.S.
Attorney's office, but he made a very big mistake with that case.
You know, Ray Donovan was Secretary of Labor.
I was the Associate Attorney General at the time, and we had to do a special prosecutor's report, and we couldn't clear him.
So you had to appoint a special prosecutor.
Leon Silverman.
And Leon investigated him for five months and said, not guilty.
Mario decides I'm going to prosecute him anyway.
And he prosecutes him and he gets acquitted.
And he has one of the most, Donovan has one of the most famous lines ever.
He says, where do I go to get my reputation back?
Where do I go now to get my reputation back?
And he was absolutely right.
The guy, I know the guy wasn't guilty.
I investigated the case myself.
When Mario took it, I called him and said, what the hell?
What are you doing?
We got more evidence?
I don't think so.
Shaming people for human behavior.
I'm guilty of my behavior.
But you know what I'm thinking now?
Mr. Trump used to go.
My behavior is my, but you know what I'm thinking now?
Mr. Trump used to go, you know, he used to be there hanging out.
Regine's, remember Regine?
Of course I remember Regine.
Oh, that was a beautiful club.
Yeah.
Oh, she ran a beautiful club.
That's her name.
It's a high-end club.
Okay.
A little stuck up.
Yeah.
Part of the whole night, right?
Dressing up.
To be honest with you, all the gold diggers used to go there.
It was fun.
Okay.
Part of the whole night, right?
Dressing up.
To be honest with you, I held a gold digger just to go there.
Okay.
Okay.
If you had a lot of fun, you had a lot of fun.
If you had a lot of fun, you had a good time.
That was it.
Yeah.
Nobody went home past six, seven o'clock in the morning.
That's the time we used to go home.
Yeah, I don't know how to find your wallet, though.
Oh, they clip you good.
Well, we could talk stories now.
See you at the Grimaldi's.
We had some fun.
You make sure you get down to Grimaldi's.
Andrew, thank you.
He over here is camera shy.
Grace, thank you for loaning us your father.
Anthony?
Sixth Avenue in New York.
And Grimaldi sometime in the next week.
And then we're going to have some of the guests, some of the people.
Say hi to the man.
I want to see the one that's sitting in the oven.
I want to see the one sitting on the page.
I know she was a good looking woman.
I think they got another case against him.
Well, I shouldn't have said that.
I didn't mean that.
I'm not going to say anything like that.
I didn't say anything.
Everybody listen to me.
Yeah, OK.
And I call everybody senora because I don't know anybody.
Everybody indict me.
They, them.
Them, them.
I don't get away with senora.
Them, them.
I think they have another.
I think they got another case against him.
I think about 25 years ago, he failed to pay a parking ticket.
Oh.
That'd be the next RICO case.
Who's that again?
Trump?
Yeah, Trump, I think, failed to pay a party.
Mr. Trump has his limousine, the DJ...
How many tickets he got on that?
We'll have to hear more about your time in the limousine business.
I can't imagine what that was like in New York City.
I had Motley Crue, I had every group.
You won't believe what group went crazy in my car.
Of all the groups.
Comment below.
Now we got to stay another minute here because Mayor, what would you guess?
Which band or group that was the craziest in a limousine?
I don't know.
How do I know?
I don't know either.
I'm giving our viewers a chance to know.
They're going to know.
It's known as Motley Crue.
That was the worst.
Motley Crue was the biggest.
You won't believe this one.
I had the village people going nuts.
Oh, the village people.
I was drunk.
I said, are you out of your mind?
I said, stop this behavior.
Yeah, but they were.
You saw it all.
How many limousines did you operate?
150.
150?!
That's a lot of limousines.
You don't know where all 150 are any given night.
I mean, you do, but I'm saying you don't.
That's a company.
We had no GPS.
We had beepers.
Real drivers.
No, I had drivers that knew where they were going.
Real drivers knew where they were going, knew good service, opened the door.
Listen, my drivers were so dressed perfectly that the casinos in Atlantic City told me, listen, tell your drivers to dress down a little bit.
They're looking better than the players.
That's a great line.
We got to get people to get some sleep so we can get up tomorrow and figure out what they're going to frame Trump for tomorrow.
I'm going to be framed too tomorrow by the way.
Anthony, Mr. Mayor.
Always a pleasure.
Thank you so much.
I told you guys this was going to be a great show.
And I promise you, I promise you, we will be down there in the next week, and all of you can get to see Grimaldi's and all of its glory.
It's really terrific.
It's a church, club, now fabulous pizza place to get together.
So we'll have plenty of stories, even if we have to make a few up.
Well, thank you very, very much for joining us tonight, and let's, as always, pray for the people of Israel.
Pray for the people of the United States and God bless America.
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