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June 23, 2023 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (E175): Election 2024—Will It Come Down To Michigan
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Good evening!
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor Live, and you have no idea where we are, right?
Looks kind of strange in back of you, and it may be a little harder to hear, but we're in a restaurant, and we're in a restaurant in Farmington Hills, Michigan.
Farming in Hills, Michigan is a short way outside of Detroit, but a separate county, Oakland County, right?
It's not, as Frankie is saying, New York, New York.
I know you people in New York think everything is New York, New York, but it's not.
There are places in the United States between New York and Los Angeles, and most of them are a heck of a lot nicer, to tell you the truth, than the way we've been lately.
Witness the fact that everybody's leaving New York and Los Angeles because you keep stupidly voting Democrat.
What's wrong with you?
Not as bad as, of course, Chicago that's voted Democrat for 55 years just to figure out how many people get killed every weekend.
But we're going to change that, right?
That's what we do.
America's Mayor Live, we bring you the truth.
We bring you what really happened that I bet you're not going to read about in the New York Times or the Washington Post or... Same thing in the papers in Detroit, right?
Detroit Free Press?
Is that a left-wing... It's a flailing publication.
Would it be unfair of me to call it a left-wing...
Automaton, red?
Certainly part of the fake news media that we've been up against.
Okay, there you go.
That's all I need to know.
Part of the fake news media.
So, they're not going to report what I'm going to tell you right now.
And then we're going to get to our guests.
They are not going to report to you the massive cover-up that has been revealed by the two IRS whistleblowers.
Very high-level IRS agents.
Career IRS agents.
Career IRS agents.
And one of them in charge of the Hunter Biden investigation.
The man in charge of the investigation, let me make it simple, the man in charge of the investigation said the damn thing was totally fixed.
Fixed in order to keep out any attempt to investigate the unbelievably clear criminality of our career criminal president, Joe Biden, and the rest of his family.
Let me just list the things that they did, and I see our police chief is listening in because he's going to be shocked when he hears this.
These happen in a local police department.
Any one of these things, the people go to jail.
Like, they go to jail.
September 2020, that's right in the middle of the election, right before the election, right at the time that I put out the hard drive.
Yes, yes, I put out the hard drive.
Nobody else, me and Bob Costello.
Didn't come from heaven.
Didn't.
In fact, for 16 months they accused me of getting it from Russia.
Because they're a bunch of liars, and because they wanted to defame me.
It didn't come from Russia, it came from John McIsaac, and it is Hunter Biden's laptop, and it convicts Hunter Biden and his father of about 50 crimes.
But on September 2020, unbeknownst to me, the Internal Revenue Service was investigating them.
And the Internal Revenue Service had enough evidence for a search warrant of Joe Biden's house.
And it was stopped by the Justice Department by an assistant U.S.
attorney named Leslie Wolf, who works for Who worked for that rather heavyset guy you see on TV criticizing Trump all the time, named Bill Barr.
Couldn't possibly have closed this down without talking to Bill Barr.
And they quashed the idea of a search warrant on his house.
She agreed there was probable cause to do the search warp, but said it would be bad optics.
Bad optics?
It wasn't bad optics when they searched Mar-a-Lago, was it?
It wasn't bad optics when they raided my apartment, was it?
It wasn't bad optics when they went to my law office and took everything they could, including invading the privileges of my other clients, not just Donald Trump.
Imagine invading the office of the president's lawyer!
What a bunch of un-American bums!
But they wouldn't search Joe Biden's house off the table.
This is during Bill Barr being Attorney General.
So when you see Fat Face on television, and you hear him with his pronouncements, they're worth nothing.
Let him explain why he did that.
Let him explain why he never turned over the hard drive.
And let a phony election take place.
Okay.
I'm not sure of that.
I am sure it is.
This one he covered up completely.
That's a crime in and of itself.
the election fraud situations.
He claimed that he did.
I saw no evidence of him looking into it.
But okay, I'm not sure of that.
I am sure of this.
This one, he covered up completely.
That's a crime in and of itself.
And they got him on television, making pronouncements about other people.
Now, if he didn't know that this search warrant was turned down, then what the hell was he doing as AG?
Sleeping?
If he didn't know about the hard drive being in their possession for a year, with 50 crimes on it, some of which they're dealing with right here, what was he doing?
Sleeping?
Then maybe he should stop shooting his mouth off.
Because he obviously doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
Or he's a crook.
Let's figure that out.
So Leslie Wolfe tells him, no search warrant.
You can't do it.
Because it would be bad optics.
Not bad law, but bad optics.
Bad optics.
My backside, it would have affected Joe Biden becoming president and they were doing everything they could to make sure that Biden won by hook or by crook and mostly by crook.
December 2020.
Now they have a search warrant for Hunter Biden's house.
There's a thousand reasons to search Hunter Biden's house.
The gun charge.
The classified documents in the home of a guy who could be a Chinese spy.
Hunter Biden was in business at that time with the spy chief of China.
He tells you that.
I'm not telling you that.
If you have the patience to go to the hard drive, he tells you that.
And this guy is passing every day documents that say classified, classified, China, classified, classified.
You don't think he sent it to his pals?
You don't think that's what they're paying him the 10 million for?
If you don't, you don't know China.
If you don't, you don't know how crooked the Biden family is.
And if you don't, you have no idea how much Biden has sold you out.
This is not just a bribery case.
This is a case involving the selling of the United States of America to our worst enemy.
How can those fat-ass idiots in Washington sit there and listen to one more day of China giving 31 million dollars to the President of the United States?
What are we, stupid?
I ask you, those of you who are old enough to remember, I ask you, if Russia had given Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, a million dollars.
What would have happened?
They'd have been put in jail and they would have belonged in jail.
And every Republican and every Democrat in this country, because we love our country, not the party.
And certainly not the party when the people there are using it to become millionaires and billionaires.
We love our country, not the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.
Jeez, how you can love the Democrat Party is ridiculous.
It's the party is slavery.
Well, that's what you got.
That's just the beginning of the cover-up.
Just the beginning of it.
There's plenty more and we'll go into it.
True search warrants.
Quashed.
Stopped.
Leslie Wolf, who I'd love to meet.
Not only that, Leslie Wolf called and warned the defense about surprise interviews that were going to take place.
You go to jail for that.
I can't imagine when I was a U.S.
attorney if one of my assistant U.S.
attorney called a mafia defendant or a political defendant or whatever and said, oh, they have surprise interviews coming up.
Get ready for it.
Who the hell is she working for?
Not only that, just in case the Bidens weren't sufficiently prepared to destroy their documents, the The FBI called the Secret Service to warn them to prepare to Biden for the law enforcement mission that was going to take place that should have been confidential.
I'd like to know who they are and I'd like to know why the hell they're not in jail.
A law enforcement officer warning a subject of a search warrant or of a Justice Department interview that the interview is coming up, but they want to keep it confidential, and that guy is still working there for the last three years?
How much more damage has this guy done?
Is this one of the guys that maybe went all around the country dressed up like a stormtrooper and arrested one of those January 6th people who were sitting there for 20 months without a trial?
I'm sure some of these guys were involved in that.
The whole FBI was involved in that.
They do that, but they can't investigate allegations of a $10 million bribe to the Vice President of the United States?
Something very, very wrong, and it's gotta be corrected, and it's going to be corrected if you keep your eye on the ball, and the ball is winning the 2024 election.
So, we're here in Michigan, Michigan's going to be a key state.
On Sunday, there's going to be a Lincoln Day dinner.
And the guest is going to be Donald Trump Jr.
Lena, let you take the microphone.
Ted, you make sure.
Oh, Donald Trump.
Okay.
I think I said Donald Trump Jr.
I meant to say Donald Trump.
Good evening, Mayor.
It's such an honor to have you in the Motor City again.
Welcome back.
Well, let's have Ted set the stage a little bit.
Ted, tell everybody where we are, and they're probably having a little trouble hearing, but we'll talk very loud.
Tell them what we're doing.
So, of course, we are alive in the great state of Michigan in 2016.
As we all know, this state decided the election.
President Trump won it by just 10,000 votes.
And we are currently outside of Detroit, about 25 minutes, Oakland County, Michigan.
It's going to be, it's been considered a bellwether county for a number of election cycles.
President Trump and Mayor Giuliani will be here Sunday night. The president is key noting the Lincoln Day dinner
they're saying this may be the greatest and largest Lincoln Day dinner in
History and of course the mayor will also be speaking.
Remind everyone of Lena And remind everyone of Lena
Of course, of course.
So we have our first guest this evening is local business leader and We could call her a community leader, a philanthropist, someone who gives back in so many ways.
Lena Epstein also served as President Trump's chair for the 2016 campaign.
Thank you, Lena.
At a time when, you know, she took some arrows, right?
As a Harvard-educated business leader, for her to come out and support the president when she did, Then-candidate Donald Trump.
She definitely took some arrows, but she's strong.
And she's with us tonight.
She ran for Congress in 2018.
And we expect her to continue to be involved.
And she is a best friend of the show.
And thank you, Chad.
Lena is precisely who we need in Congress.
This is a woman who runs one of the largest women-run businesses in the state and in the country.
Yes, sir.
And also has a great, great, passionate, legitimate, strong interest in making this a greater country
and a very good perspective on what needs to be done.
So let me ask you, Lena, what are, maybe we should ask a political question.
So we'll have this dinner on Sunday.
This is a swing state.
He lost it, maybe.
He won it, yes.
The first time, lost it the second time.
It's in play right now.
Probably thought of as one that would go to Biden.
What kind of chance do we have?
What kind of chance do we have as Republicans in general and then Trump in particular?
I'm feeling particularly optimistic about Michigan.
And as Trump's chairman back in 2016 for the state, I got to see firsthand the way that President Trump got to the hearts and minds of all of the union workers in the state of Michigan and their wives and their spouses.
And Donald Trump was able to speak to the To the hard-working man and woman that simply wanted to provide a nice life for his or her family.
And so I'm seeing that same groundswell, that same passion.
You were in the Motor City tonight where the first car was made.
We still are very proud of our manufacturing sector.
You're still a big part of the economy, you told me before.
Yes, it will continue to be.
And President Trump, as a businessman and a job creator, he understood the importance of manufacturing and automotive in this region.
So it's such an honor to have America's mayor in Detroit.
Detroit loves Mayor Giuliani, and we hope that you reign and continue your important message for many years, sir.
So Lena, Wayne County, I mean I unfortunately got to know Michigan after the election really well and the vote here, but Wayne County is a Democrat county.
Now, Oakland County used to be an overwhelming Republican county.
And now, how would you describe it?
The late L. Brooks Patterson was the giant of Oakland County and one of my mentors.
He was the Oakland County executive for years and held the county with a triple-A bond rating when the markets crashed in 2008.
We knew for many years that when Brooks passed or retired, that we were headed for trouble.
Yeah, among other things, this woman is quite an economist, but okay.
Thank you.
And we, our county, is needing the next Brooks Patterson.
We're needing the next rational, business leader, um, centrist.
Thank you.
You know, this, I think what's most exciting about having you here... Last one I did that wouldn't want.
That was a certain kind of endorsement.
You know, you don't like saying anything, you just go, What makes me excited tonight is that we have Mayor Rudy Giuliani, America's Mayor, and his lovely partner, Dr. Maria Ryan, in Detroit.
We are at the finest restaurant in town.
It's bustling.
This is an Italian restaurant?
Restaurant Italian restaurant, but it but it also specializes in steak an Italian steakhouse Which I will explain later is a very traditional thing for the Italian people and don't forget Yep The salads.
It's a wonderful business.
We're very excited.
We hope that people will, that your listeners will come and visit Michigan.
Tourism is our third largest industry, and my goal is to give you and Dr. Murray a wonderful weekend, sir.
Yeah, I really enjoy Detroit, and I enjoy Michigan, and I've been here a fair amount.
I, a long time ago, represented the Ford Motor Company, and I kind of lived here on and off for years.
...litigating a case for them.
So I got to know Detroit.
That was back in the late 70s.
It was when Ronald Reagan was running, my hero.
But Lena is a tremendous resource for the party.
It is a tough state because the union movement, the universities that have a liberal bent to them, But it is a state that kind of fits in particular Donald
Trump.
Even the trade issues are issues that people in Michigan understand better
because they've been hurt by it.
They've been hurt by the either incompetent or corrupt trade deals that
have been made over the years before Trump.
The union workers have loved Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump worked so hard, just like you, sir.
And Donald Trump is going to be here, and we're going to be here supporting him.
And we're going to make sure that he wins again.
You know, I saw, we won by 10,000 votes in Michigan in 2016.
We work like hell.
We did!
This was his last stop.
And Hillary Clinton never came to office during a general.
This wasn't his last stop before election day.
Well, let's call it his first stop on election day.
He got here after midnight, and up until that point, I don't think any president had ever campaigned beyond like about 10 o'clock on the eve of the election.
But he was in New Hampshire, where Dr. Maria comes from, and she loves New Hampshire as much as Lena loves Michigan.
He was in New Hampshire, and he got a call, and he had promised to come here, but he was running late.
And when he was told how many people were here, everybody is sleeping at this point.
The only one awake is him and me.
Everybody's sleeping.
He said, I have to go.
I said, well, what time are you going to get there?
I said, about 1 o'clock.
I said, the election's over.
But the news said, oh, what the hell, let's go.
We had a great time.
It was a miraculous night.
I don't know.
I think that's maybe why we won.
I remember waiting up until 3 o'clock in the morning and the Detroit ballots weren't coming in and we're sitting there, we're saying, with all the money we're putting into elections, shouldn't it flow smoothly and we have accurate reporting?
I'm just excited.
I can feel the groundswell.
You've got other guests on your panel tonight.
Michigan, and particularly Oakland County, I think all roads to the presidency are going to go right here.
And it's just a real honor to be with you and your family tonight.
Honestly, Lena, this is a state, and there are maybe four or five of them, you win this state and you win the election, I think, for Trump.
I think you do.
Indeed, and this state will go red again.
It always swings back our direction.
And I think that's the reason he's coming here, you know, for this big dinner, which is going to have, like, about 3,000 or 4,000 people, right?
And for those of your viewers who don't know, this mayor has worked so hard for the patriots in Michigan.
The patriots love you.
Please continue to come here.
You inspire us.
Oh, I will.
I will.
I will.
Okay.
I have a great regard for Michigan.
Now, we're going... Okay, I can talk?
Ted said it's okay for me to talk.
Okay, I'm going to talk.
Here's the one that really gets me.
Here's the one that really gets me about the Bidens.
I want you to see this.
I want you to see this.
Look at this.
I hope you can see that.
Hold on.
It says, FBI proves laptop real.
Okay, now, I want you to remember, because I can remember, when I revealed the laptop in August, September of 2020, I was immediately accused of having gotten it from the Russians.
Not just by all of the press.
Not just by all of the Democrats.
But by 51 of the top intelligence officials of the Obama and Biden administrations, some of whom I know personally, and some of whom when they saw that had to say to themselves, this is pretty ridiculous, that the guy who is probably the most effective prosecutor of our generation, who put his life at risk four or five times for his country is going to insert material from Russians.
They might have even checked on the fact that I was part of the Reagan administration and helped create the FISA court to investigate Russians.
But they didn't check anything.
All they did was sign a bunch of lies.
All they did was sign a bunch of lies.
Now it turns out that the FBI knew, knew that this was authentic way back in November of
I revealed it because I got it then, because they were hiding it.
I revealed it in August of 2020.
So when I revealed it, And I was accused, and my colleagues, of being Russian operatives, not just quietly, but by every newspaper, 51 miserably lying incompetent intelligence agents, whose names should be taken out of the books or wherever the hell they were intelligence agents, because they're massive liars.
I was accused by Joe Biden, right on national television, during a debate, using my And Ray, who runs the FBI, and presumably Barr, who runs the FBI, the Justice Department, knew that they were lying about me and Trump.
Oh, you want to know why I have no respect for fat face?
That's one of the reasons why.
And when I listen to him talk about Trump now, I say, what do they put a liar like that on TV?
Because, first of all, he had to know about the laptop.
By this time, he had to ask questions, at least.
He had to know it was verified if the FBI knew it was verified, unless he really sleeps all the time, or they just lie to him all the time.
I don't know.
There is a possibility there.
I'm not going to apologize to him for having called him a A liar.
If he didn't know about it, because it proves he's a lazy bum.
But he shouldn't have been in the Justice Department and he should stop talking like an expert because he is a disgraced Attorney General.
That's what he is.
He's a disgraced Attorney General.
He is a disgrace to the department that I serve a lot more effectively than he ever did.
Tell me his big case.
I can tell you 20 of mine.
Tell me what he ever did in the courtroom.
I can tell you what I did.
Did he take down the Mafia?
No.
Did he take down the Teamsters Union?
No.
Did he put Nazis in jail?
No.
Did he ever stand up against anything that might cause him a little trouble in the bushy world or in the Washington world?
I don't know.
It doesn't look that way.
But shut your mouth now because you're a disgraced AG.
Now, they don't want to ask you.
Because they protect you.
It's outrageous you haven't been asked now, for the last year, did you know about the hard drive?
But I'm asking you, Barr, did you know about the hard drive?
And shut your mouth until you answer it.
And go in front of Congress and answer it under oath.
When did you find out about the hard drive?
If you found out about it before the election, why the hell did you cover it up?
If you found out about it afterwards, what the hell were you doing as Attorney General?
But I don't think you get to spout off your opinions about a damn thing until you explain to us, Barr, did you know about the hard drives?
Okay.
Now, we have a legend of law enforcement with us, Bill Dwyer.
Legend of law enforcement.
And he is the commissioner of the Warren Police Department.
But he's served as commissioner of the Warren Police Department before.
He's been an Oakland County Commissioner, and he looked about 65.
We'll get that right down there.
There we go.
You want to tell me your age?
You want to just keep them guessing?
Well, I've been in law enforcement for over 62 years.
Okay, well then you can figure it out.
I started when I was 10.
Now, I actually have him on not only because of his Background in law enforcement, because I want to show everyone that just because you're of a certain age, you don't have to be like Joe Biden.
Right, right.
So tell us about the challenge that you face now, Bill.
Well, let me go back first of all, when we met 46 years ago.
I knew he was going to say that!
46 years ago!
Because I was in charge of the Narcotic Division in Detroit.
And I went to New York to study your mandatory sentencing on drug dealers.
Speak up as loud as you can!
So I went and visited you.
We talked about your mandatory sentencing.
Where you started at 25 grams and you went up.
So I came back to Michigan and we went with the mandatory sentencing.
We started at 50 grams to 225.
You actually did something we don't do now.
and then 450 to 650, and then over 650, mandatory life.
But we followed your lead, Rudy.
We followed your lead.
And that was many years ago.
You actually did something we don't do now.
Right.
You put criminals in jail.
Well, it was very disappointing because it really, it was repealed by a governor here
back in 1985 or so.
So that was pretty disappointing.
So now a drug dealer, the most they're gonna serve here in Michigan
is about 15 years, that's it.
Doesn't matter if you got 10 kilos or 20 kilos of fentanyl.
What does that hurt?
That's why you got to take a federally that does hurt Tell us a little about your I have dr. Marie here.
She's not on camera, but she she She follows fentanyl very, very carefully.
Tell us a little about fentanyl and how that's figured into the complexity of what you do.
Well, it's the deadliest drug we have out there right now.
You know, I went to Mexico undercover when I was with the Detroit Police Department, Narcotics Division.
And we got to Brown Heroin.
We went from, actually, McAllen, Texas.
So what, are we going back to the 70s now?
Back to the 70s when gun heroin was a big thing.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I go back to that.
But it was, you know, we went from McAllen, Texas to Renosa, to Monterey, to Culiacan, to Durango, and we got the lab.
And that was a big deal.
That was a Mexican connection.
But fentanyl today is a synthetic drug.
It's out of control.
It's a killer.
It's a killer.
It's much more powerful than anything we... More powerful because the chemists don't know how to mix it.
So you might want to get a... And it's scary because You really don't know what you have, right?
Right, exactly.
I mean, you may have cut it really small.
Exactly.
And you think because the other one you cut before was a... But you're putting a deadly poison in.
But you can always tell there's like a time when all of a sudden you got all these overdees in a week.
You go from like 3 or 4 to 20.
So you know the mix that came in is a bad mix and it's killing people.
And it's something that now... Have you had that here in Michigan?
Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, I've got a narcotic division in Warren now, and I spent seven years with the narcotic division being in charge in Detroit.
And I'll tell you what, Rudy, we raided and arrested every day.
We did 10 to 20 raids in Detroit.
Low level, but we did the big raids.
And you pick up fentanyl in those raids?
Many of them?
Well, no, it wasn't fentanyl now.
Fentanyl's only been around for the last Four or five years.
And how many of the raids do you now pick up fentanyl?
What would you say?
Almost all the raids.
Almost all?
I'm surprised.
I thought it would have been like 50% or something.
Right now, it's a choice of drugs.
You know, when crack came in, crack was like an intercity drug.
Right, it was an intercity drug.
I remember that.
And I predicted that it would hit the suburbs, and it did.
It came out and hit all the suburbs.
I was US Attorney then.
Exactly.
So it's never any, it's a supply and demand, as you know.
As long as you have the people that are addicted, you're going to have the suppliers.
I actually never thought I would see anything more impactful than crack.
I thought crack was the worst.
Exactly, I did too.
Crack is nothing compared to this, right?
You know, it's sad because I've always said there's a three-pronged attack.
Strong enforcement, rehabilitation, and education.
Yeah, 100%.
We don't have, the government is not providing Enough rehabilitation for the people that want to get into treatment.
The people are dying out there, and they're dying because they can't get into treatment.
They want to go into treatment, they can't get there.
Yeah, well, now we don't imprison the right amount of people.
We don't provide any real meaningful rehabilitation.
Right.
And the education almost is to take drugs.
Exactly, exactly.
I also think the whole thing with marijuana Exactly.
No, I agree with you on that.
Exactly.
And it turns out now that...
I agree with you on that.
I think it turns out that marijuana is a lot more damaging chemically and scientifically
than people realize.
Right.
And they're also, the marijuana is also now much stronger.
Exactly.
And every once in a while you'll find fentanyl in marijuana and somebody will die.
Right.
You know, and I've been around a long time.
23 years with the Detroit Police Department, charged narcotics for seven.
I was a police chief in Primary Hills, Michigan here, the city you're in right now, for 23 years.
And now I've been in the largest city, third largest city in Michigan, Warren, for nine years.
I was a county commissioner.
But I've never seen crime.
And it's sad today that the men and women in blue do not get the support from mayors such in Chicago, New York, Los Angeles.
And quite frankly, it's Democratic mayors that aren't giving law enforcement, the men and women in blue, the support.
They talk about defunding.
Now in Warren, you've got a mayor and you've got a city council that support the men and women in blue.
But you take the larger cities and it's very disappointing.
You would consider Warren a suburban area?
Well, it borders Detroit.
It borders the suburb of Detroit.
It's the third largest city.
The population's about 180,000.
Probably made up of people who came here who didn't want to live in Detroit anymore.
Well, yeah.
In New York, we have Nassau County.
They moved north.
They moved from Detroit north to Warren.
So those are like the people that moved to Westchester County in New York.
Exactly.
Or Nassau County.
Or northern New Jersey.
Exactly.
But I'll tell you what, I've got a law enforcement family.
My son was in Detroit.
My brother was in Detroit.
My grandson was with Detroit.
And you were too!
And I was in Detroit 23 years, but I've never seen it this bad as far as the violence today.
I've got a sweep going on now, right in Warren, where in the last three weeks we've had a major sweep, and I'm going to announce it probably next week.
We've arrested hundreds of people, hundreds of people for all sorts of drugs, guns, And Warren is the same city.
I mean we, so far this year, we have not experienced a homicide.
But we got zero tolerance and we're sending the message out in Warren that we're not going to tolerate crime.
We've ceased about 50 or 60 fires so far.
So you experienced the 70s and 80s when there, like New York, there was a lot of crime in Detroit.
Right.
Did you have a lot of, was there a lot of crime in Warren then?
Or was it pretty much isolated from the crime back then?
Well, what we see in Warren, quite frankly, and I don't want to... I think Detroit's doing a great job.
I think the mayor and the... Yeah, but it's much harder.
The people from Detroit, quite frankly, I hate to say it, they're coming across and going north into Warren and Sterling Heights, and a lot of our crime comes from people that live outside the city of Warren.
Warren is a safe city.
Yeah, I'm sure that's right.
I mean, that happens in... Look, you know, Used to be that New York was unusual and Chicago was unusual.
Unfortunately, all our cities are getting like that.
Particularly, and I'll say the same thing you did, particularly if they have like a silly progressive mayor.
But I'll tell you this, Warren is one of the only cities that's fully staffed.
We're fully staffed in Warren.
Well, you see New York isn't.
New York isn't.
And we're bringing people in because we have good benefits and we support the men and women in blue that come.
The administration, the politicians, we all support them.
They're on the front lines and every night we're having carjackers.
We're having major problems like every other city.
I think it is very, very valuable for the people all over America to listen to us.
And this is very much a shared experience now.
Look at the problems on the West Coast.
Right.
Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Oregon.
My goodness.
I talked to people.
People come up to me in New York visiting from Portland.
I'm looking at Dr. Maria because she was there.
And they come up and ask for my advice on how you can make Portland livable.
Right.
And, you know, I never thought I would hear people People want experience from New York on how to make Portland safe.
But Portland's more dangerous than New York!
Per capita, Portland, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle are more dangerous than New York is.
You know one thing I always say, the gun control.
They keep talking about taking the guns away.
Well, there's enough guns laws right now on the books.
You don't need any more.
Well, they don't, as we found out with Hunter Biden, we don't enforce gun law.
Exactly right.
Exactly right.
And that's a disappointment.
There's a lot of talk from the politicians about, well, we're going to do this, we're going to do that.
But the men and women that are on the streets, they're making the arrests.
And they go... Yeah, so it's very disappointing.
The toughest I've ever seen in all my years in law enforcement, I've never seen it this hard.
On the men and women in blue.
And that's why you don't see the people going into law enforcement.
They're not going in because they're not getting the support.
You know what I'd like to ask you, because it might help people elsewhere.
You have a fully-forced department, a full complement.
How does you keep up the recruiting?
Well, we took over the recruiting from Human Resources.
I talked to the mayor.
I said, hey, they're not doing their jobs.
So we came up with a program.
We went outside civil service, and we're now only hiring those that are already police officers or in the police academy.
And it goes through the same screen, the same background, and we're getting quality people because the city where I'm at, Warren, offers a good package Great working conditions.
But the key is that the officers know they've got the support of myself as a police commissioner and the city council and the mayor.
I'm sure you have a lot to do with the show.
Well, I've been around a long time.
I'm sure you do because it's like any other area to work for a very experienced guy.
You learn a lot.
Right.
Whereas if you go someplace and the police commissioner is just You're not going to learn anything.
Well, I'm hands-on too.
My guys... Oh, I can see.
I know that.
I'm hands-on.
I know everything that's going on in my department.
And we've had some... I had a very difficult case this week here.
An officer using excessive force.
It was an embarrassment to the entire department.
A black guy.
I suspended him.
I'm having an employment hearing on him.
But it takes one officer to make an entire department or the entire state gives him a black eye and officers are out there 99.5 doing
an excellent job dedicated professional 24 7 and one officer that I had this week that was on the
news national news this week he hit a prisoner in the cell block he was arrested and it was
brutal I've never seen it be that bad before I mean you can't but you're out with the point the point
that you make is so important And police officers have to be told that over and over
again.
It's different than other situations.
Right.
When they do something really bad.
Other good, decent police officers pay for that.
Right.
That's exactly it.
I was fortunate because the criminal element will come after that.
They shouldn't, but they do.
Right, right.
But, you know, you've got to be in front of it right away.
I got in as soon as that went down at 6 a.m.
in the morning.
Internal Affairs was on it at 7.45 a.m.
I ordered the privy to be taken to the hospital.
He wasn't seriously injured, but we know a lawsuit is coming.
Well, thanks, Bill.
Thank you.
Good luck.
So good to see you again.
Well, wasn't that?
Wasn't that?
I mean, that was really interesting to hear from somebody with that much experience in law enforcement and My goodness, first of all, he's completely on top of his game.
He's 83, by the way.
A little older than President, uh, whatever we want to call him.
Uh, the president who's covering up his crimes.
Uh, but none of the... And when he got up, he went right to his seat.
He didn't need five people to help him.
And so far, he hasn't fallen.
How about we get rid of the demented bum in the White House under the 25th Amendment?
Because we should not have a president who isn't competent mentally to do the job.
We're too important a country.
Hi there, next up we have Jackie Callen, the first lady of boxing.
More importantly, a former New Yorker.
She wants to share with you some of the layers she's wearing.
Jackie, are you a boxing manager or promoter or both?
Both.
I've done both.
Well, that's usually the case, right?
Somebody would do both.
Well, you're actually not allowed to promote your own fighter.
There's the Muhammad Ali Act.
which John McCain was responsible for because I had a world champion named James Tony who fought
in Atlantic City in the early 90s and it was a very controversial decision and they thought I
paid off the judges or their so they did a big investigation. Paid off the judges for what?
They just thought I paid off the judges which I did not do.
In order to get away? To get the win for my fighter. So he could keep his title. Oh you mean the
judges? The ring judges. So at any rate they had an investigation and they came up with the
Muhammad Ali Act which you can no longer promote a fight when you manage one of the fighters.
So you have to decide on one or the other?
Yes.
If I manage a fighter, I have to put him on someone else's card, or if I promote a show, I can't use my own fighter.
Fair enough.
So tell me about...
You want to go back to New York?
Is that where you started?
Actually, I lived in New York and I loved it, but I was there a long time ago.
Right.
I mean, I have to ask you because... In the days of John Lindsay.
John Lindsay!
Oh, I mean, I got to know John at the end of his life.
And I interviewed William Buckley.
Oh, William Buckley.
I know, we're going back to the 60s.
I used to get interviewed by him.
It was great.
I know, but those were the golden days.
He was brilliant.
When I was there in 65, we had the Beatles at Shea Stadium.
We had the Pope came for a visit that year.
We had the big blackout in 65.
I remember.
It was my first year of law school.
You were a baby then.
It was my first year of NYU law school.
See?
And I was reading my tort book when the lights went out.
Yeah, I remember where I was too.
So tell me how you...
A woman in boxing back then, let's not say that's not a usual career path.
It was not, and it still isn't.
I was the first one.
I kind of broke through the glass wall, the ceiling, to be a woman in a man's sport.
And of course, they did not take me seriously.
What made you do it?
Well, I was a reporter.
Like I said, I was a journalist.
You were a reporter?
I was a journalist for 25 years.
And they were short.
I was at a daily paper.
They were short a sports writer and they shoved me out there to do a sports story from a woman's viewpoint and it was really good.
And you enjoyed it?
And they kept me.
Oh, going to the locker room?
And you decided you liked it?
I loved it.
But I love politics too.
So now...
I think of managers.
My father was a boxer, but an amateur boxer.
Golden Gloves, probably.
But he had bad eyes.
He could have been a professional boxer, and he sparred, I think, at one point with Sugar Ray Robinson.
Oh, that was my favorite.
He was an excellent boxer, but he had bad eyes.
He had almost kind of percentage of blindness that he got from an
infection as a kid.
So he could never box, but he grew up in Harlem with horn-rimmed glasses.
So he had to be taught how to box to protect himself, and he got so good,
he could still fight, but he really couldn't fight that competitively because of his eyesight.
But he loved it.
So I got to go to all the Easton Parkway Arena, the Sunnyside Arena.
Do you remember those?
I remember all of them.
What about Gleason's Gym?
Do you know Gleason's Gym in Brooklyn?
Of course, yeah.
Barclays Center has great fights.
Madison Square Garden.
I would come as a little kid.
I didn't even know what was going on.
I'd be looking around.
Then I'd be punching the bag.
Wait, I have a great idea for you.
We have something called celebrity boxing.
Big gloves.
Yeah.
Want me to box somebody?
I can get you into boxing.
If I could pick the person up.
It will make it so uncompetitive.
Look, you did the master singer.
That didn't work out too well.
I thought it did.
I ran into a guy with Trump, what do they call that?
Trump derangement syndrome.
Oh, come on.
In boxing, we won't get too many of them.
He's a big boxing fan.
Wait, let me tell you something.
I worked with him many times.
I went to several fights with him back in the day.
You probably were in Atlantic City for some of the Tyson fights.
He had three casinos and my fighters fought for him.
No, he really likes it.
Even now, I mean, I worked with him for years.
During the campaign and during representing him, I spent a lot of time with him.
And you want to relax a little, we would talk about boxing off.
Let me tell you.
He knows it too.
He knows the sport and he is one of the nicest men.
Would you please tell people?
Let me say that again.
I'm going to tell you something.
Look, look at the camera.
Listen to her.
I hate this.
He's such a bad guy.
I mean, the guy who's really a bad guy is Biden.
I'm going to say, as a female, in an all-male dominated sport, I worked with Donald Trump many times in the 90s.
When he was with Ivana, I had dinner with him when he was with Marla.
Wasn't she wonderful, Ivana?
Oh, she was wonderful.
And he was so respectful.
And he was absolutely beautiful to work with.
I had lunch at his Trump International last year.
He's a gentleman.
He gave me beautiful hats, and he's a gentleman.
He remembers everything, doesn't he?
I'm going to tell you.
He knew how many times we had dinner, where we had dinner.
Nobody's doing this, giving him, oh, here she comes.
He remembers.
Well, you know what?
He's a gentleman.
And I know some of the things he said people took the wrong way.
He is respectful to women, at least for me.
He gave me credit for being a woman in a man's sport.
On the hat he gave me, he wrote, great job.
He's a hell of a guy, and I hope we get him back again.
I bet a lot of you, even those of you who support him, are surprised by that.
I get that so often.
Oh, come on.
He's not that... I'm telling you.
He is a really regular guy.
Oh, and they say... A decent guy.
Tell you something else.
And a warm guy who really will go out of his way to help you.
And they say, being a Jewish woman, I shouldn't be supportive because he doesn't like the Jews.
Wrong!
That is incorrect information!
His daughter is Jewish.
His grandchildren are Jewish.
Hello!
Mate, look.
There are things you can criticize him for.
Yes.
All of us are imperfect.
I'm going to tell you, I get so angry when they do the racist or the anti-Semitic thing on him.
I know him for a long time.
I know a lot of people.
I know some people that are anti-Semitic.
I do too.
I don't have anything to do with them.
The minute I think you're anti-Semitic, you're not worth my time.
The minute you think you're racist, you're not worth my time.
That's how I feel.
I work at a sport of all minorities.
So I can't afford... I mean, not that I'm an arbiter, but I wouldn't have been his friend all these years if he... That's right.
that made it comfortable to be his friend is he's a regular he judges people for being people
right if he either likes you and if he doesn't like you i was just gonna say he doesn't like
you he might get a little excessive if you treat him right he likes you if you treat him right
he'll treat you right you treat him wrong he'll give you a nickname
If you treat him wrong, he'll be a little tough.
And he's good at it.
Or a nickname, he loves the nickname.
Oh yes, I was saying.
You treat him wrong, you're going to get a nickname.
He won that 16th election with a nickname.
I'll tell you.
I think the Bush family hates him because of the way he characterized poor Jeb.
Well, up until then a good friend of mine.
I don't know if Jeb feels that way anymore.
I'm going to ask you a question since I have the opportunity.
How do you see The next election, in your mind, how do you see it going?
Right now.
You can only do it from today.
And if things change, my opinion will change.
Right now, I see him as the Republican nominee for sure.
And I see him as having a better chance of winning than losing.
But by a tight margin.
That could change.
I think he's absorbed these first two frame-ups, which is what they are, well.
And I think if they continue that strategy, he'll win.
I don't think these idiots realize that these cases are so bad that fair-minded people look at them and say, and then, bullshit.
And then they do things like this stuff with Biden and you compare one to the other and you say, what's going on here?
Well, that helps him.
Now they're very smart.
And I keep warning him, they've got a couple of other things up their sleeve.
If they continue to do what they're doing, we're going to beat them.
Because it's like playing out the same card all the time.
It has the same result, he gets more popular.
And because their people are applauding for them, they don't get it.
But they're also pretty smart people.
And if they do a switch on them, like they did a couple of times, then...
They've got the entire media on their side.
Well, from your lips, let's hope it goes that way.
This was a pleasure.
Thank you, my dear.
It was for me, too.
I enjoyed talking to you.
Thank you.
Well, wasn't that interesting?
My goodness!
A woman, a woman, a woman fight manager?
Whoa!
Oh, boy!
Here he is!
Oh, my goodness!
My good friend, your good friend, everybody's good friend, Denny McClain!
One of the greatest pitchers in the history of baseball.
Talk about a winner!
Listen, I've come to save the show again.
You have to!
We need you!
We need you!
Although, I gotta tell you, a woman boxing manager is pretty good.
A woman boxing manager, wow!
So how have you been, Denny, since I saw you the last time?
I've been fine.
I'm starting to walk again without my cane and everything since my leg got, you know, wet.
Yeah.
And I feel pretty good.
I may, unfortunately for some friends of mine out there, I may live another 20 years.
Well, they're just going to have to deal with it, Denny.
They're just going to have to deal with it.
Anywhere I go, Chief Dryer is there, for God's sake.
So, you know, it's always a good night.
He's in good shape, huh?
Isn't he?
I just told him.
83?
Whoa!
He looks like a million dollars.
It really does.
I told them I can pay you to Biden.
Have you seen any Yankee games?
I haven't been to one.
I'm really disappointed.
I thought they started off really strong.
They have a hell of a team.
But, in a way, I think that whole division got shook up by Tampa Bay.
Oh, well, Tampa Bay.
18-0 or something?
Tampa Bay has got such a good organization.
Not only mesmerizing, but they do the same thing every year, every spring training.
They sign nothing but pitchers, for the most part.
The guys they get are fill-ins at different positions, but the pitching is what rules what they do, and they do it better than anybody else right now.
They just kind of fill in the offense and defense?
Yep, that's right.
They make the trades.
They make the deals.
They hope to develop somebody in the minor leagues from time to time.
And they've got a great track record there, too.
You know what they do, Rudy?
They let these kids play in the minor leagues a while.
That's the difference.
We get them here in Detroit.
The guy hits one home run in Toledo.
My guy is hitting third the next day up here in Detroit.
We got so many guys that belong in double-A baseball so they could develop.
What would you say?
How much longer would the norm be?
Maybe a year or two more?
I think they need three to four years to develop.
Was it that way?
Was that the way it was?
Oh yeah, listen, it was longer than that.
But a lot of people came up real... You came up real fast.
Oh yeah.
How long were you?
I was 19 when I came up.
Yeah, I remember.
K-Line was 18.
What were you, a year?
Oh, less than a year, yeah.
K-Line, I remember that.
K-Line was a baby.
Al come right out of high school.
High school to the major leagues.
That is a difficult, difficult move.
We almost did that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it's even harder for a pitcher.
Do you think a pitcher needs more time?
Yes, absolutely.
I would think so.
They've got to learn how to throw a slider the right way so they don't destroy their arm.
They've got to realize a curveball is thrown differently than a slider.
A change-up is something that everybody needs to have.
And the fastball, never lose it.
How did everybody get to the big leagues as a pitcher?
With a fastball, right?
Every guy that ever got to the big leagues got there with a fastball.
And all of a sudden, they go to the big leagues and all of a sudden they're throwing sliders on 2-0.
Sliders on 3-1.
Go with what got you to the dance.
Take the same girl home you went to the dance with.
Yeah.
Those other pitches, it takes you a while to really develop, right?
You've got to work them in, right?
The slider is something that takes a lot of intensity and concentration.
You just can't go out there.
You know, I always laugh when somebody says, whoa, look at that backup slider he just threw.
Rudy, there's no such thing as a backup slider.
The guy made a mistake and the ball backed up.
I mean, it's such BS.
It just kills me when I think about it.
When you came up, How many more fastballs were you throwing then, let's say, eight years later?
At my peak, I was throwing 80 to 85 percent fastballs every game.
Okay, now, in the, when you're moving down, but you were still a good pitcher.
Yeah.
I mean, when you, when you, when, The point at which you were dominant.
Right.
But you didn't, like, fall off the cliff.
What happened?
Did you mix your pitches up?
Well, I got traded to the Washington Senators.
That's what happened.
And I got shut out that year eight times.
Eight times in one season.
You mean no runs?
No runs.
Zero.
What?
That's got to be impossible.
I tell you.
And I had Ted Williams for a manager who had made it doubly problematic.
So I... Ted?
Ted, there's one thing about Ted.
He hated pitchers, and Denny McClain hated hitters.
So we had this... Oh, you must have really gotten on well, like you and the Boston Press with Ted.
Oh, my God almighty.
One quick story about Ted.
Ted wrote a book in 1960, 70 when I was there, 71.
And he told everybody on a Monday, here's a free copy of the book, and we're going to have a Q&A on Friday.
So read the book.
I don't know if you've read it or not.
So then what happens is he has his meeting on Friday.
He goes over his notes for about five or six minutes and says, now, has anybody got a question?
Nobody raised their hand because everybody was scared because Ted would use some choice language.
If you ask the wrong question, Ted would kick you in the ass.
I mean, real quick.
So one guy in the back of the room, a guy named Dick Billings, a Michigan kid, he was a catcher.
And Billings put his arm up in the air and I said, put your damn arm down.
For God's sake, you're going to get us all in trouble.
I said, Dick, please put it down.
No.
So I got to ask him.
So Dick says, Mr. Williams, He said, Mr. William, I have a question.
And Ted says, I might have figured it was you.
What's the question, Dick?
He said, if I buy a book on surgery over the weekend, am I a surgeon Tuesday?
Listen, he didn't play again for five weeks.
I want to thank the, maybe the greatest pitcher of all time, 31-game winner, Denny McQuade,
all of my friends, all of our heroes here in Michigan.
Last time I interviewed him, the thing that really, the thing that I think really shocked
me more than anything else is the number of innings you pitch.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think, now, three, I think you need three pitches to pitch that number of innings.
Oh, you gotta have at least three or four pitches, absolutely, because you don't have the good stuff all the time.
So you pitch, tell them your biggest season.
People don't realize, you only really have great stuff seven or eight times a year.
That's when you're really at it.
Right, a lot of pitchers have told me that.
Right, absolutely.
Really, you have to know what you're doing when you're off.
And you may occasionally have one that's just terrible.
Yeah, and then the one that you do so well, and you know, the big one that all of a sudden is there one night, you can't believe what's there.
Where the hell was this yesterday?
When you were off, and you knew you were off, did you pitch some very good games?
I'd pitch a decent game.
Yeah.
In other words, I'd wind up probably giving up two runs, three runs.
You kept your team in the game.
Tried to keep the guys in the game.
But that's why you have to have a team that can produce at least a couple of runs.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And if you get lucky, who knows, you might win nine to five that night.
Right.
You know, because that's what you got to do.
Well, they're getting me out of here right now.
All right, Denny, we'll do it again.
It's always good to see you.
Always good to see him.
I hope you won't.
What about that? What about that?
Do we do that?
Why don't we do the ad and then I'll do him?
Who are you?
I'm great.
I'm great.
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We're back on.
All right, we're back on.
We introduced our guest, who is the chairman of the Republican Party, Vance Patrick, and I was asking him, this is a typical American suburb, one of the really great ones, a tremendous Republican stronghold 30 years ago, and now probably What, back and forth or Republican still?
You're right, Rudy.
It has slipped a little bit, but I'll tell you what.
The Oakland County Republican Party, we are laser focused on getting back what I grew up in Oakland County.
I grew up with the lower taxes, less government, and that, you know, you did your own thing as a family.
And where we are today, we had just had a transit tax that we passed for Oakland County, and we have a bunch of empty buses.
Driving up and down Woodward Avenue.
Why did we need to increase the transit tax?
For more electric buses or something like that?
Very similar thing in New York.
Now, in New York, the last two elections at least, meaning the 22 election that involved the governorship, which we lost, but only by four points, which I thought we had a chance of winning, which is really a little crazy, right?
We're winning back the suburbs.
Like, we now have... Nassau County is the closest suburb to New York.
For the longest time, the Democrats had it.
We just put in a Republican county executive.
You can see a change.
The counties that haven't flipped back, they're getting close.
Two points away.
Three points away.
They used to be 10 points away.
Trump won a couple of those counties.
Lost a couple, won a couple.
To win the state, you gotta win them all.
That's true.
But the movement in the counties is in our direction.
Yeah, we're looking, the way we're focusing this is, again, like I said before, going back to what it was like when we were kids, and Oakland County was a lot different.
It was, again, like I said before, a lot less government, a lot more, it was a safe place, and it's not as safe as it used to be, unfortunately.
Yeah, I bet.
But you're telling the story now of America.
I mean, it's interesting.
We're not isolated anymore.
I could be talking to you in a suburb of Los Angeles or a suburb of Dallas, Texas or a suburb of Philadelphia.
Same thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'll tell you, we're working with the precinct delegates to get out the vote, to get the candidates across the finish line.
We're, again, laser focused on bringing back Oakland County to the Republicans.
Do you have an election this year?
Well, we've got school board and city council, things like that, this year.
And then next year will be the big one.
Now, are the school board elections getting a lot more interest here like they are?
You know what's funny, Rudy, you mentioned that, that a lot of people I say, you know, they say, well, I vote Republican.
And I said, no, no, no, it's not enough anymore.
You need to vote Republican and then get in your county party and that's what the Democrats do. They
are laser focused on always being active. We know what we would do. We would
vote Republican then we will go back to our cabin up north or go back to work or
go back to Florida.
It's not their problem. We would vote Republican. Now everybody's in the politics.
Do you think the battle which I consider it as a Democrat party against the
Barons. Oh, look what they're doing to schools right now. I mean we just one of
our schools in Troy Michigan. You can't sit back. No, no, no. This isn't even
Democrat or Republican. This is about are you gonna let your kid get brainwashed
Well, Rudy, they just took away the AP classes because they said all kids couldn't be part of the AP classes.
It's like the advanced placement classes, they got rid of them.
Why?
Because everybody couldn't be in part of them.
So Tracy Owens, who's sitting right behind you here... No, wait, wait, wait.
You mean people that could qualify can't be part of it because not everybody can qualify?
Yeah.
You're like, wait a second, how can that be right?
You know what I say with these things?
It's not inclusive, Rudy.
Don't we all want to get along?
But I'm going to tell you what I say.
We're not America anymore.
No, no, no, no.
I think Biden and Obama have gotten their wish.
They've gotten us closer to a socialist or communist country.
Where's our striving to be better?
We strive to be better rather than just good enough.
I don't want to be good enough.
I want to be the best.
How about we get away with all professional sports because not everybody can play professional football.
We all don't get a trophy.
Or the end of every game, the Tiger game, everybody's going to win.
The Tigers win and the other team wins.
Yeah, exactly.
And then everybody gets in the World Series.
I'm not sure if that's exactly how it works.
People don't, I mean, doing that, Vance, we don't get people ready for life.
Right, right.
And then they have great disappointments and depression and suicide and all the things
that are happening to us. But I'm glad to see are people getting more involved now individually?
Absolutely. We've got, again, precinct delegates. The Oakland County Republican Party is out there
recruiting people to get involved. And people are knocking on our door all the time, and they want
to be involved in their county party. So it's exciting.
Dr. Maria, you like that, huh?
Yes. I appreciate it. She's a Republican from New Hampshire.
Thank you for coming to Michigan.
She knows a lot about the primary.
Rudy, thank you for coming to Oakland County.
I truly appreciate it.
I'll be back.
I enjoy coming here and I like Michigan a lot.
I really appreciate America's Mayor coming to Michigan.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Mayor, what are some final thoughts as we close out another exciting week?
Well, my thoughts are, first of all, it is a place I'm very familiar with.
I've been to Michigan a lot, Detroit in particular, but all over Michigan, Upper Peninsula as well.
These are wonderful people.
This is quintessential when they tell you that people from New York who go to Los Angeles think the rest of the country doesn't matter.
Some stupid left-wing commentator said something about, well, they're just in middle America the other day, dismissing the opinion of people who think that the prosecution of Trump is political.
By the way, it's not just the people in middle America.
It's about 70% of the people in America.
But keep getting it wrong, jerks.
Keep getting it wrong.
This is...
There's a lot of the core of this country in a place like Michigan.
These are people who, maybe because the pressures of a New York or a Los Angeles produced more mental whatever, these people seem to have more common sense in large numbers.
And getting them back Getting them back in the large numbers that Republicans used to have.
These places are still Republican or Republican competitive.
It isn't like New York where a Republican can't win.
You get a good Republican candidate, they're going to win here.
Used to be, when you didn't have a very good Republican candidate, you won here anyway.
That's absolutely right, Mayor.
And as you know, you were with the President at his final campaign stop in 2016.
This state is winnable, especially if President Donald Trump is the nominee for Republican.
It's going to be fun to see him here on Sunday.
I believe you're going to be giving some remarks as well.
Well, the last time he and I were both here was 1.30 in the morning on the day of the election in 2016.
If we go back to November 2016, what does that, what kind of feelings does that bring to you, Mayor, when you think of that?
Well, I thought he was going to, I know people had different feelings.
I left the last day of the campaign not sure, but I was one of the people who thought he was going to win.
And I think you did too, Dr. Mayor, right?
Yeah.
Not everybody did, Mayor, but you were early on that.
And again, we're here in Michigan.
Well, we had a great time tonight.
On Sunday at 10, Dr. Maria is warming up in the bullpen here.
Jenny McClain is working with us.
She's right off screen.
And she and I will do uncovering the truth from Michigan.
We'll get into a little more detail on the cover-up of the century, or maybe the cover-up, the biggest cover-up on our history.
I think it will eventually be that, and other issues.
Covering this has a great format.
You really have to watch it on wabcradio.com.
I really ask you to listen to what Mr. Elliott said, please.
Give him a call.
And also, MyPillows.com, don't forget them.
Slash Rudy, it'll rip us, and it'll particularly help us if you go to Twitter and you subscribe and become a...
A super follower.
A super follower.
They changed it from subscriber to super follower within the last week, Mayor.
You'll be a super follower and then we'll be able, we have a lot of additional content for you and then we'll be able to figure out additional incentives, okay?
So we'll be back on Monday night.
God bless Michigan.
God bless America.
And God bless Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Please.
I'm going to be a little bit more formal.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our
God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers,
in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies
felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country.
A country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.
We're able to talk.
We're able to analyze.
We are able to apply our God-given common sense.
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