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June 1, 2023 - Rudy Giuliani
01:24:50
America's Mayor Live (E159): Election 2024 Coverage from New Hampshire
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Good evening, this is Rudy Giuliani with America's Mayor, live and live in Manchester, New Hampshire, and I think you can see what is behind me.
A baseball field!
A baseball field of the Manchester Fishercats, who are a AA affiliate of the Toronto Blue Jays.
I know you expected a Yankee, uh, a Yankee affiliate there.
And of course, or the Red Sox.
I think with me, they would have expected a Yankee affiliate.
You might've expected the Red Sox because it's in Manchester, New Hampshire, one hour drive from Fenway Park, but nope.
Both are disappointed.
It's the It's the Toronto Blue Jays.
In any event, it's still great fun to watch minor league baseball.
And I became a great fan of this hotel and restaurant.
The first time I stayed here in 2007 when I was running in the New Hampshire primary, and it was the wintertime, and I opened my blinds and my curtains on a cold winter's day, and what did I see but a baseball field filled with snow!
Oh!
And every time I can when I come to Manchester, For whatever reason, politics, business, fun, pleasure, just stopping for the night on the way somewhere else.
I try to stay here and I try to get a room because one half of the hotel faces the entrance and the other half of the hotel faces the ball field.
Tonight, the Fishy Cats are playing... They're playing... Reading.
Reading Phillies.
So they're playing the...
Double A affiliate of the Philadelphia Phillies.
So, you know, we'll see if we can check in on what's going on in the game.
We're here, of course, mainly because of the primary and we hope to have a candidate here with us later.
We spent last night debriefing one of the campaigns and Gathering information on several others today.
So, let me begin with a few comments on the debt, because our guest should be here in about half hour, I'd say, or less.
I do not agree with some conservatives who believe that this was a terrible, terrible deal, and that Speaker McCarthy should either be blamed for it or fired, I guess, for it, or maybe they want him tortured or something.
This is politics.
You know, this is not war to the death.
It's politics.
It's politics in a democracy.
Just because they act, meaning the Democrats, and not all Democrats, but the highest level, like fascists, who have no understanding of the word democracy and have lost it completely, and I agree with that, probably I agree with it and know it better than most of you, they are a disgrace.
They have destroyed any semblance of an American democracy with their ruling by dictate, like Biden signing all those memorandums of understanding and other things which it dictates.
Some of whom have been now reversed, thank God, by the Supreme Court, all of whom
should be reversed by the Supreme Court.
In an early era, he might have been impeached for that because it's a usurpation of power that he
doesn't have under the Constitution. That's gone a long way to destroy our American democracy.
I mean, his Democrat governors showed him the way with their fascist activities during the
during the pandemic, uh, decreeing that you couldn't go out, decreeing that you had to wear a mask, decreeing that you had to be vaccinated with a vaccine that hadn't even been tested, uh, decreeing that you couldn't go to church on Easter Sunday, or you couldn't go to church during the High Holy Days if you were, um, if you were Jewish, but you could go to the liquor store and the strip parlor.
Uh, they sure made clear their what would be considered communist alignment of morals, because Karl Marx yearned for the day that morality was removed in those bourgeois western civilizations, meaning civilizations that traced a great deal of their morality to Jesus Christ or to Moses or to both.
But right now, We're not going to win by becoming them.
I know there's a tendency, and I have a lot of friends who have it, and there's a masculine quality to this.
If they did it to us, what can I do to them?
No, we're not.
No, we're not.
Because we are Americans.
And we are good people.
We're not Joe Biden.
Are you Joe Biden?
Would you take a bribe?
Huh?
How about, would you take hundreds of bribes?
Would you take your son as a teenager who had an addictive personality and have him collect bribes from you and have him work for some of the worst criminals in the world?
No, you wouldn't.
Would you?
Because you're a good person.
Would you do it?
You wouldn't do that, right?
Would you take $31 million from the Chinese communists?
Would you give up an airbase 400 miles from China when you know that China wants to destroy us?
Of course you wouldn't do that because you're a good person.
Would you cover up a critical piece of information so you could fix an election?
No, because you're a good person.
I can go on and on, right?
So, yes, we want to defeat them.
But we don't want to become them.
God forbid.
We don't want them to develop in us the desire to become them.
We want to be able to maintain in this cauldron of unethical behavior and immorality and greed and double-crossing and disloyalty.
We want to maintain our principles.
And don't let anyone tell you you can't do that and win, because when that's the case, we've become a fascist country.
We can win.
We just gotta work hard.
And we have to be loyal.
And we have to be able to pick our battles.
We don't have the luxury to fight with each other over everything.
Maybe when we're in charge, we can have more sophisticated debates about, should we reduce 20% or 10% or five?
Let's start with reducing, hmm?
So I'll tell you a story.
I mean, I was the mayor for a short while, maybe three, four months.
And I had put out my first budget and man, I was getting demonstrations every day, every day.
There's somebody out there and I've just became mayor.
I'm used to this U S attorney.
I'd get a few demonstrations, but a lot of them were my favorite, you know, getting rid of the mafia, getting rid of the drug dealers, people like that.
Well, some people too.
Um, and All of a sudden, there's a demonstration outside, and my deputy mayor and best friend Peter Power comes in and says, you want to look out the window, Mayor?
Do you see the demonstration?
I said, you know, Peter, I don't like to look at them.
I know what they're saying.
I'm a creep.
I'm a bum.
I'm Hitler.
I'm whatever I am.
He said, no, no, these people are in favor of you.
I said, why are they in favor of me?
Because you set a record.
I said, I did.
I've only been in office three months.
How could I set a record?
You cut taxes more than any mayor in the history of New York City.
I said, Peter, we just got into office.
We won by two percent.
We have a city council of 45 Democrats and six Republicans.
Yeah, I got a little, I cut the hotel occupancy tax and I cut a little bit on property taxes.
But that really wasn't much of a cut.
He said, well, you set the record.
I said, I did?
Yeah, because nobody else in the history of New York City has ever cut taxes.
And I thought about it.
I mean, we virtually had no Republican mayors in 250 years.
I was the third Republican mayor in the city and only one of two to remain a Republican.
And I always tell people that Abraham Lincoln lost New York City.
Twice.
So, but part of the story is I eventually cut taxes by just about more than any jurisdiction in the country.
Even solid conservative republic cut them about 25%.
Cut them to such an extent, our economy was booming and I produced a surplus and a rainy day fund because we took the first tax and we showed them how we made money with it.
And then we started educating and educating, and we got them into wanting to cut taxes with us.
So, you know, the old Chinese saying, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, is true when you have this kind of entrenched behavior.
So you cannot expect That McCarthy is going to have a revolution when we don't control the presidency, we don't control the Senate, and we've got, what, a four-vote margin in the House.
I look at it the other way.
It's remarkable he got what he got.
Nobody thought he could get it.
Now that he's gotten it, it's not enough.
Come on.
This is not Paul Ryan, and don't start the Paul Ryan garbage on him, okay?
When the guy fails, I'll tell you.
But here's what he got for you.
I mean, he got a reduction in spending.
$56 billion in the first year, $88 billion in the second year, if I recall correctly.
Could be a little off, but about that.
Is that a lot?
No.
Is it more than we would have gotten had we not elect Republicans?
Yes.
Is it a start?
Yes.
Does it set a nice challenge to the next president?
Certainly if a Republican, then he's got to do a lot better than that.
Come on, let's get realistic.
We have the whiteboard here, Ted.
Maybe somebody can get it for me.
I'll just show you.
We can run it through very quickly because I want to show you this.
Excuse the writing, it's mine.
Not Dr. Maria or Ted, they're much better writers than I am.
Ted, can they see this?
So here's what we got.
So don't tell me we didn't get anything.
If you want to tell me it wasn't, you know, speaking of the field here, it wasn't a home run.
It wasn't a home run.
Look at second base.
We got the second base.
You can't get home unless you touch second base.
Or let's even say we got to first base.
Can't get home unless you touch first base.
If you don't touch first base, it's not a home run.
Did you know that?
So, number one, we had debt limit legislation.
They wanna change the debt limit, they gotta get a law passed.
So it's solidified.
We got 55, not far off, 55 billion dollars in cuts right now.
81 billion next year.
Okay, we have simplified the oil and gas permitting.
We got this really in part to vindicate Manchin, who was double-crossed by Schumer.
This is what Manchin was promised to sell us out with that inflation bill, anti-inflation bill that sent inflation through the roof because it was supposed to be for infrastructure and it was for human infrastructure.
It was for welfare.
It was for don't work.
It was don't work money.
But now we have across the board simplification of oil and gas permitting, which is a practical matter, means Before Trump takes over, we can start the process of getting back to being energy independent.
We won't get there with this, but we'll get there faster as soon as we have Trump or a like-minded president.
This is very important, by the way.
I saw this in the bill, and I didn't know why they didn't make more of this.
These are things that I use very effectively as mayor, and these are things that Congress generally doesn't do.
A government administrative office monitor for all regulations.
So what they do is they report on whether these regulations are working.
You know how often they report they don't?
About eight out of ten times.
It lays a basis for getting rid of the regulation.
Trump went crazy getting rid of regulations.
He got rid of so many, I mean, he actually physically affected the size of the book.
This began our economic revival in 2017, just getting rid of regulations.
This, I know it's hard because it's not sexy, this could be more important than reducing taxes in terms of stimulating business activity, because regulations can have more of an inhibitory effect on business sometimes than taxes.
Very often they do.
Workfare for SNAP.
That's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
You're gonna have to work up to the age of 55 if you're getting government handouts, except for Medicaid.
Now, Republicans wanted Medicaid.
It was a compromise.
Okay, he got half of what he wanted.
But before McCarthy and the Republicans were elected, there was no workfare.
It had been done away with.
I started it with Governor Thompson.
Clinton and Newt Gingrich made it national.
And the Democrats did away with it, starting with Obama and completely with Biden.
This is part of one of our very big problems.
You make more money not working than working, which means we don't have a workforce.
This is very important.
And it covers a big portion of the electorate, of the population.
Not the entire.
But this is what happens in a divided government.
You get a compromise.
But this is a good one.
Democrats don't want this.
The only way they got the debt ceiling lifted to pay the bills we have right now is by agreeing to this.
A callback of 1.6 billion IRS.
This is disappointing.
I would give this a failing grade.
We should have gotten more back from the IRS.
Some people think it was 24 billion and write it down someplace.
Oh, I may be wrong about this.
I hope I am, but I'm putting it at 1.4 billion because that's all I've seen.
I've been told it was 24 billion.
If it is 24 billion, I take it from a failing grade to a B.
We clawed back the COVID money.
I can't tell how effective that was.
It was about $26 billion.
But I don't know how much is left.
And I can't tell you if we clawed it all back.
That would tell you how effective it was.
And we ended Biden's student debt limit so that they're going to have to pay their debts.
That's a pretty good set of achievements for a government, remember, where the opposing, certainly we'd agree socialist government, I'd say communist, but let's say socialist, where the socialist government opposes all of this, every single bit of it, wouldn't do any of it.
They had a small heart to agree to this.
So let's say to McCarthy, In the realistic world we live in, uh, Speaker McCarthy, this is a really good job.
And this is the first positive thing on a Republican agenda since Trump left office.
So take a sip of water.
Okay.
This way you'll hear me better, but I really do think, I really do think We should calm down the rhetoric here.
I'm not trying to be insulting, I'm just trying to be realistic.
And stop being babies, you know?
Come on.
We're in a sandbox, we can't have all the toys.
They have more people in the sandbox than we do.
When we get more people in the sandbox, we can have more of the toys, okay?
You gotta vote for us.
If you vote for us, we can straighten the whole damn thing out.
You don't vote for us.
You do what you do to us in Chicago and New York.
We can't help you save lives when you keep voting Democrat.
I don't know what's wrong with you.
I know what's wrong with people in my state, voting for Hochul, voting for Adams.
And look what you got.
I don't know.
I really don't know what's wrong in Chicago.
The numbers over the Memorial Day weekend.
But the problem with it is I could have predicted it.
I knew it was going to happen.
You know it's going to happen.
And then you just vote for her.
You voted the most wacky candidate for mayor.
You picked the guy that likes the criminals the most and has the least regard for honest people.
Tell me why.
Hard to understand.
Well, The professor at, or not the professor, the student at CUNY, was it Fatima Mohammed?
I think that's her name, who gave a speech two weeks ago saying, and I played some of it last night.
I can't play it again.
I played it a bit on my radio show today and then just put it off.
He basically said that the police department is fascist.
The military is fascist.
The police department basically likes to kill black people.
We are a country of white supremacists.
The law, the law, and this is why they don't have to follow it, I guess, is a product of white supremacy.
Israel should be not sanctioned or destroyed, should be done away with, which is what the aim of the boycott is.
It should no longer exist.
It should be annihilated.
You realize how extreme a position that is?
The dean of the college and all of the happy, useless professors That produce every year one of the worst law schools in America.
Instead of hiding their head in shame at the results they get, like, in the bottom quarter of law schools.
Instead of, like, going around saying, gee, we really should get a different faculty because we're such lousy teachers, because we do such a bad job.
They were all reporting for this.
So, you know, applauding for this means not only are you a radical, not only do you hate America, not only do you not understand what's really going on, it also explains your terrible academic performance.
Because you're stupid.
You're stupid.
You expect to improve and move people out of poverty and do away with the police?
What'll happen is you may not have any impoverished people after all, because they'll be killed.
But that's not the way to do it.
We're a racist society?
We're probably one of the least racist societies in this country.
In fact, we were doing really well before Biden came along.
And is he racist?
Well, I'm not going to go through all the ways in which he's racist.
I'm going to say that I was enormously impressed with the article today by Andy Stein and And Professor Dershowitz, which asked for the city to defund the city law school.
Why the city should pay for your law education is beyond me.
But if it is paying for your law education, it's paying for a very, very deficient law degree.
And I'm not talking now about their radical position.
I'm talking about much more practically their standing as a law school, which is Almost as bad as Biden standing in his law school class.
I mean, this is a law school where Biden might have been able to get through without cheating.
But at his law school, he had to get through with massive cheating.
Of course it should be defunded.
If they want to be a law school that hates America, that tells you that the law is a product of white supremacy, then somebody else should pay for it privately.
Your tax dollars shouldn't pay for it any more than your tax dollars should have paid for desecrating the Blessed Mother.
Or help the Los Angeles Dodgers do anything because they conducted a pride night where they deliberately mocked the Catholic Church.
And I don't consider myself an ideal Catholic like Biden does, but I'm very upset, very angry, and very insulted for my co-religionists, who are a lot better than I am, and none of whom deserve it, not even me.
Because I'm going to ask you a question.
that both Professor Dershowitz and Andy Stein put very eloquently in the article.
Can you honestly say, even if you're a big libtard, can you honestly say if a group of people showed up at the Pride Day dressed up as a transgender Mohammed and transgender Arab woman who are men in variations of the hajib, but with
these like ridiculous bras and stuff on to make fun of the Muslim religion or the fact
that the Muslim religion permits marriage with three women or anything, or to do what was
done in Chicago 20 years ago, play off the parts of the Quran where Mohammed kills large
numbers of people.
you You know it would have been taken down immediately, right?
The Dodgers would have had to apologize 45 times and at least fired a few people.
But now, you know, they just move on and Catholics get another slap in the face.
We should not allow this.
We shouldn't allow it, not because of pride, but because of our showing our respect for our religion and demanding that people respect our religious beliefs.
We respect theirs.
I respect the religious beliefs of the legitimate churches, but I don't have to be Catholic.
I expect the same respect for my religion, and I don't get it.
And it's getting worse, and in some places, it's leading to violence.
So I would say that the Dodgers did something really awful.
I don't know if I were a Dodger fan, If I go to a Dodger game, at least this year, and I'm not a Dodger fan, and I sure as heck wouldn't go to one of their games on the road.
And I do go to games other than Yankee games.
Like, if I weren't doing this, I'd be watching this game right here.
But the Dodgers are a disgrace.
Just like Target.
Just like Budweiser.
Just like... Le Limon!
What is a luliman, by the way?
I still don't know.
Is it like a French ice?
Luliman?
Oh, coals.
Luliman is the one that fired their people who reported the criminals.
They gotta be really big time whack jobs, right?
You fire your employees who got stuck up or looted and they called the police and you fire them?
You fire the people who steal things, not the people who report the people who steal.
Only way we're going to change this is if we don't sit there like a bunch of baboons going, we don't want to make any trouble.
We got to stand up for what we believe in.
We don't have to, I told you, we don't have to become them.
We don't have to break laws.
We don't have to lie.
We don't have to cheat.
We don't have to take money from bad people.
We can boycott.
Budweiser has moved now to about $18 billion.
$18 billion?
$18 billion for Budweiser?
That's good.
That's good.
Excellent.
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All right, and we're back on!
Are we on?
Are we good?
We are good and on the air with Perry Johnson!
Well, isn't it exciting?
We have right off the campaign trail, he looks like he didn't, and I know for sure because I spent a lot of time campaigning here, that he's been campaigning all day, haven't you?
I have.
Yeah, I know that.
Here it's amazing, isn't it?
It's the most amazing state on the planet.
Oh, you just won Maria's vote.
So Perry, tell us first of all, How did you decide to do this?
I think everyone has now at least seen your commercials, which are fun.
I mean, they're good.
They're different.
And they get your attention, which is the whole purpose of it.
So tell us how you decided to run.
What were the factors?
It's a hard thing to do.
It's not easy, right?
Actually, I love this country.
We have the greatest country on the planet.
There is no better country.
And when you are born in this country, you've already won the lottery.
God bless you.
Yep.
Now, I, when I got to understand that I grew up in a small town, Dalton, Illinois, actually, and my dad was a pilot in World War II.
My mom was a nurse in the Army Waxman.
When they had me, they told me that the greatest gift you can be given, is to have two loving parents and be born in America.
And in America, you can do anything.
It is up to you.
And I believe that in my heart and soul.
And when I saw what's happening to the country, frankly, I thought it's a sin.
We are now at a point where we are literally $32 trillion in debt.
And keep in mind that we were arguing about our indebtedness Right around 2000.
And in 2008, we said, okay, something has to stop.
And we saw that we doubled our debt from 10 trillion to just around 20 trillion under Obama.
But in the last six years, we have spent more money than in the history of any country in the world.
Oh my goodness.
And we are now 12 trillion more in debt.
And as a matter of fact, as a result of this, the interest alone was $610 per family.
And only about four years ago, it was about half that.
So the greatest strength of a country is the economy.
It all starts with the economy.
Think about this.
We had Rome rule the world for a thousand years.
They went under because they couldn't pay their troops.
The Soviet Union, They went under, they couldn't keep up with the arms race, and we toppled the wall.
And right now, when we spend like this, we endanger everything.
Social Security, Medicare, our defense, our whole way of life.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, China now has a bigger Navy than the United States.
People don't recognize that.
And one of the reasons we don't rebuild our Navy is the pressure on our budget.
We actually spent more in interest this year for the first time in history than we did in our national defense.
Okay.
Well, that's a tragedy.
Which is a tragedy.
And let's take a look at China because I'm glad you brought that up.
And China, the gross domestic product in 2098 was $1,077,000,000,000.
2098 was $1 trillion and $77 billion.
Today, it is hovering just under $20 trillion.
And we had to borrow money from China.
In fact, we had to borrow so much money that we are paying them $74 million a day in interest on that money.
Now, when we borrow money from China, did you ever think it would come to that?
No.
And we're giving them resources every day, enormous amount of money.
And we actually helped build their economy.
When we went into China, We had a situation where they coerced us to have a Chinese citizen own 51% of the company.
So we gave them all of our technology, we invested the money, and then they stole that technology.
And When we take a look at China, they're not to be trusted.
People comment about Russia.
I'm not worried about Russia.
They're sitting there with an economy just slightly over a trillion.
I'm worried about China, because if they grow at the rate of 6% a year, which is what the person in the head of the World Bank claimed it's gonna happen, they'll be ahead of us in, what, 10, 12 years?
And if we are in a position like this, will we actually go into recession?
Think how bad that is.
So you got to understand that I'm a guy that literally started with nothing.
In fact, uh, when I went to school, it's a wonderful story.
I've read, it's a wonderful story.
It's an American, it's an American, it is American dream, right?
I know it's a cliche, but it's the truth.
It can only happen in America.
It is.
In grad school, I was getting eviction notices.
I couldn't pay my rent.
I had my electricity shut off.
I could laugh about it.
Right.
And, uh, I got a job in the auto industry in 1980.
For me to explain to our audience, you're an efficiency expert.
A world class.
I mean, you're one of the world's best known, most successful efficiency experts who teaches companies at a very, very high level how to be more productive, how to be more efficient, how to be more effective.
And how to have quality.
Yeah, and how to have quality, right?
Quality control, efficiency, getting things done in the right way.
And you always have to look at a model.
So what happened in the auto industry back then, they used to have teams of people at the end of the line.
And when the product wasn't any good, they would either rework it or throw it out.
Well, I knew that was not going to work.
Think about it.
First of all, you're investing all of that labor in the beginning, but more importantly, you're never going to get any better.
But I thought I knew how to solve the problem.
And that's when I left BorgWarner and I started my first company.
And what we did was to use statistical methods in the front of the operation.
I thought the reason we had the problem was that we had too much variation.
And I started ironing out the variation.
And I taught the people on the line a control chart.
So they actually plotted the points.
We didn't have computers back then to do it.
When was this?
Around 1980.
So I started my first company in 1983.
No computers back in 1980, right?
I mean, there were no computers on the line to continual maneuver, right? So you had to have the people on
the line actually plot the points.
So they actually would plot the moving average, and they would use that tool to find out when
the variation was significant, and they kept reducing the variation. You know what? In four
or five years, we had the best quality in the world, and the overall cost of producing the product
dropped exponentially.
Some cases it dropped 20 percent, 30 percent, 35 percent.
So when the computer came along, you just took what you were doing manually, and as computers got better and better, it made you much more powerful.
Yes.
I had the same experience with ComStat.
I developed this program for measuring crime, and the first time we did it, we did it on index cards.
By the time we were finished, we had to plot it on a map through the internet.
And what would take us a week to do, we could do in an hour.
In fact, you take a look, you did the same kind of thing in New York.
When you came in New York, remember how you made sure that you were going to have legal votes?
Right.
So you said that if any illegals were on there, you were going to stay on top of them.
Right.
And then what happened when you used your program and you used certain techniques, the crime dropped Yeah, a lot of it was driven by a program to measure statistics and see where the crime took place and put the police in the right place at the right time.
And then the computer made us that much more effective and efficient and it became Very, very successful.
Actually, the techniques you and I use in employing, we use in everything.
So tell me how you, how, so something about your doing that, right?
Brought you to the decision.
I am.
that you could do this job for this country right now.
Right?
Isn't that what you've done in the past is what brought you to this decision.
Right.
I'm at a point in my life.
I have the most wonderful life in the world.
I have the most wonderful wife on the planet.
I have three wonderful kids.
In fact, my oldest started college.
I'm Costello.
I am.
Yeah, he's here right now.
How are you?
And, you know, I have three children.
I have three.
I have two who are 14, and they are going to high school, and Perry started college.
Actually, he started at Michigan State this year.
And to show you something about my son, my son started this year, and he is expecting to graduate next May.
Perry, you better go home and study.
And he's very handsome!
And let me tell you, my son, during COVID, when COVID hit, what did my son do?
He started an internet, he started an e-commerce business, and then later on he came to me and said, Dad, I think we need to start a mortgage business.
So he started a mortgage business.
Did you take care of the dad?
Well, maybe a mom is like this too, I don't know.
Well, yeah, my wife had a salon, and she had a hair salon for, I don't know, what, 20 years?
So yes, and we're entrepreneurs.
What I believe is that America has always come to the rescue.
We've had somebody coming to the rescue all the time.
No, that's true.
And it seems, you know, the people who are so much spiritual will say, well, God, make sure at the very last minute, just when it seems like we're falling off the cliff, the right person comes along.
They intervene.
Yeah.
That's how I feel.
Yeah.
And you too.
I mean, it's hard to prove.
I really do believe it.
And think about how we are inventors, and we are out there constantly trying to invent things.
It doesn't even matter whether you go back 120, 130 years.
You can talk about Rockefeller, Carnegie, Edison, Henry Ford.
We have had a history, even in the internet, we lead.
Now, we take chances, but when we feel that there's something there, we go out there.
And I'm at a point in my life, yeah, I have more money than I ever dreamed of.
I admit that.
I'm not ashamed of the fact.
Please don't be.
By being proud of it, you encourage other people to do the same thing, which is what they should do.
And I want to keep the American dream alive.
God bless you.
And that is why I'm running.
I think that in order for us to do this, we have to recognize what's really going on.
And some of the stuff is nuts.
No kidding.
Now, for example, Uh, we know that Trump is running and Trump is way in the lead.
He's, uh, has what, 54%?
And everybody and the brother knows that I love Trump.
I think he's probably the greatest president maybe in my lifetime.
But he still spent too much money.
He spent too much money when he was in office.
Yes.
And he spent too much money.
And then we have this unbelievable situation where Biden is trying to see if he can spend even more.
And what amazes me... He is!
We have spent this record sum of money.
Think about it.
We spent more money than ever.
We claimed it was because of COVID.
Then we don't have COVID anymore, Biden wants to spend even more, and now we submit this bill which has us spending even more money.
But my plan, two cents to save America?
You wrote a book about it.
I did.
And keep in mind, I am the only candidate that has a plan to solve the problem.
You can complain about anything.
They're cheering for you out here.
You just did a home run!
Tell us how the plan works.
There's a 10-cent plan, but let me give you the actual crux of the plan.
It starts very simply by changing the way in which we do things.
Right now, you realize that the government spends every single penny in their budget every year.
In fact, they go out of their way to make sure that they spend it so they can get more money the next year, and the more money they have, the more powerful they become.
I say we do just the opposite.
What we're going to do is freeze the budget on all discretionary spending, and they have to cut two cents out of every dollar in discretionary spending.
They have to cut that every year.
In fact, if they do, they get a bonus.
If they don't, they don't.
Some departments we just get rid of, like the Department of Education.
Think of the Department of Education.
At least you're clapping.
Some people are ready to kill me.
But I say, you know, we have 4,400 people spending $68 billion, and yet only about 8% of that money goes to kids grades K through 12.
100%.
Let's get rid of it all.
And I say, we go down from 4,400 people to two, and have those two people send the money directly to the parents, and they take this 8%, and they send their kids wherever they want.
Perry, I have probably the best example in the world of that in New York City.
New York City now spends $37,000 per student on students, and we have almost 800,000 less students than we had six years ago, and we spend more money on fewer students.
Now, the charter schools that have been established without union intervention Spend only $18,000 per student.
The graduation rates are eight times higher.
The performance rates are unbelievably different.
And it's the same students.
They're all minority students from the same neighborhoods.
In Harlem, for example, more children go to charter schools than public schools.
The children in the charter schools graduate at a rate 60-70% more than the public schools.
And do you know what the response of the New York State Communists in the Democratic Party is?
They're passing a law that if more than 50% of your students are in a charter school, you can have no more charter schools.
Oh, jeez!
In any other place.
So the other districts of which there are 31 other districts.
They've got to get together with Michigan.
The other 31 districts who look at Harlem, where this worked for black people and minorities, they want the charter schools.
Yes!
But they can't have them.
I don't know, because the kids will get educated.
I guess they're afraid if the kids get educated, they can't completely keep them dependent and under control.
It's a sin.
That's a very good word.
That's exactly what it is.
I think you'd go to hell for doing that.
It's a sin.
And one of the most important foundations of any society is the education system.
And if our education system is goes awry, we have a huge problem down the line.
And I want everyone to understand how absurd things have gotten.
Do you know that there is nothing in this country where the price or inflation has affected people more than the cost of tuition?
I'm going to give you an example.
Michigan State University, the cost of tuition in 1979 was $25 a credit hour.
If it had gone up at the rate of inflation, it would be $100 a credit hour.
Right?
But it's $505 a credit hour.
Now, they passed a law in 1965, and in that law they said that the government would suddenly guarantee all student loans.
Regardless, understand you have a 17-year-old that can borrow anything, $30,000, $40,000, $50,000.
They have no idea what it's like to have to pay back this loan.
They have no experience in having to control money.
And here they are making these ridiculous loans.
Where the people are punished because we've given all this money to the colleges freely, year after year after year, and the cost have escalated to the point of absurdity.
I read about that in my book.
In fact, one of the examples I use, because we're near Massachusetts, is Harvard.
Harvard tuition in 1966 when they passed the law was $1,700 a year for room and board and tuition.
Right now, it's $81,000.
Did you say $1,700 a year?
$1,700 a year.
Did you say 1,700 a year?
1,700 a year.
It's $81,000.
Now, if Perry has kids and they want to go to Harvard, let's say he decides to get married at 28 and he has kids,
the cost to go to Harvard for four years, which I write about in the book, will be $1.8 million
if prices continue to escalate at the same rate.
It is absurd, and we have to do something about that.
Think about it.
You go to school, and you get a degree in philosophy.
How much are you going to make?
I mean, you say, okay, I've got this great philosophy.
I'm going to sit around and I'm going to philosophize.
I thought about that once because I had a minor in philosophy.
I thought maybe I could put out a shingle, philosopher at large, and people could come in and debate Plato with me.
Yeah, well, they used to with Aristotle.
Yeah, I think I'd be on food stamps now, but maybe I'd be better off on food stamps, who knows?
It really is terrible.
It's wonderful to see that you're running a campaign in which you're putting issues out and educating.
How do you find it in New Hampshire?
It's probably the best state in the entire country.
People really question you about it, right?
They do, and politics in New Hampshire is a sport.
Everybody's involved in politics.
Did you ever notice that?
I often said they all have PhDs in politics, they just don't understand it.
Well, and think of what they give up, though.
Think of the people of New Hampshire and how important their state and their country is to them.
You have 400 people in your House of Representatives, they get paid $100 a year.
You have a similar situation in the Senate, $100 a year for a senator, and they may have to work four days a week.
And you have people essentially donating their time so that New Hampshire can be the best possible state in the union.
New Hampshire has no taxes, right?
They have no sales tax, they have no income tax.
I don't know another state like that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the only state within, as someone said today on something I was listening to, that New Hampshire is the only state within a thousand miles that has no income tax, because it's basically the northeast, you know, the left.
At least down south you've got Texas and Florida.
What?
Well, we have five more minutes!
Well, Ted, who's a political expert, and Dr. Maria, who actually does have a Ph.D., but she also has the other Ph.D.
from being a lifetime New Hampshire resident.
Do you have a question, Ted?
Or Miss New Hampshire, do you have a question?
We're getting a lot of comments, of course.
I know Perry Johnson being from Michigan.
He's well known.
In the Great Lakes State from Courses Success in Business, wherever he goes, he's been on TV quite a bit in recent years.
So he's definitely making a splash in Michigan and elsewhere.
Of course, he also ran an ad in Iowa.
You've been running ads in Iowa, New Hampshire.
And so we're getting a lot of questions.
People are very, they're finding your message very encouraging, Mr. Johnson.
Their question is, We're getting a lot of questions here, a lot of specifics about your background and what really, and you kind of answered this already, but what, why now?
Why are you running for president now?
You said some very nice things about President Trump.
Why this sense of urgency?
Well, right now, it's a combination of two things.
I'm at a point in my life Where I can run for president.
I, you know, I spent a lot of time with my kids.
I was not going to go and do anything until my 14 year olds got into high school because I spend a tremendous amount.
In fact, I'm close with my children.
I would caddy for them on the golf course.
They played golf.
Yeah.
You know, in fact, uh, and by the way, I don't know whether anybody realizes what it's like to run for president, but you did, I know.
In fact, that's why I have a reality series.
And I started the reality series on Newsmax.
And we actually, you can look online, but on Newsmax, we have a regular show.
It's typically at nine o'clock.
This Sunday, it'll be at 7.30, but we actually show what it's like.
I know, I know.
Believe me, there's nothing like it.
It's very realistic.
Having done it over 10 years ago, it's very realistic.
We're in this hotel because when I was running, I stayed in this hotel.
I woke up in the morning exhausted.
To go out and go on a line and shake hands.
And I saw a baseball field in the back and I decided I'm always going to stay here because the baseball field makes me feel good.
It is nice, isn't it?
Yeah, it makes me feel good seeing the baseball field.
So, Dr. Maria, the New Hampshire resident.
Mr. Johnson, two questions.
Sure.
One is, how are you going to handle negotiating with Congress in the Senate, especially the radical left, who don't seem to love America?
And then the second question is, how do people learn more about you?
Can you say your website?
Sure.
My website is perryjohnson.com.
Easy to remember.
perryjohnson.com.
Now the, the key to any of this is that you have to have support.
And I think one of the, one of the things that starts with is your cabinet you get to choose.
So if somebody doesn't support my two cent plan, I'm not going to have him on the cabinet.
I don't care if the most brilliant guy in the world.
I don't care if the guy has shown that he has the ability to run the third, fourth biggest company in the world.
If he doesn't support my plan, I can't have him on the cabinet.
Second, when you go and you endorse people or you start helping them in the campaigns, running for senator, running for the house, you have to have people that are on your same wavelength.
If they don't support your plan, you're dead.
You have to have a cadre of people behind you.
In my business, I have 80, what, I think it's 88 companies now, 87 companies.
We operate in 61 countries.
Do you know none of my companies have any debt?
I have no personal debt.
I'm a guy that is truly Yankee frugal.
So when we talk about this, you have to have a certain strategy for anything, even in the companies.
When you actually run companies, The way to get them to really run effectively is to have great management.
The average tenure of my management is about 18 or 19 years.
That's wonderful.
I don't turn people over.
I have people that are great managers and they have to love what they do.
They have to be part and parcel of your same line of thinking because the way I believe it, I believe the most important thing in the world is for you to feel like you're making the world a better place.
So it starts with the idea that you have to care for the people.
And if the people know that you care for them, you automatically have generated a certain warmth and an inner warmth.
The fact that you are going to hire people that are like you, that have the same drive, that like the idea of working, That is key.
See, when COVID hit and I was shut down for two weeks, I went nuts.
I thought my wife was going to kill me.
I bet you did.
Your personality, I can see that.
I can see that.
Because one of the greatest joys in life... And you're in a charitable state, too.
I mean, one of the worst states in the union.
The governor was like, you know...
You will close down your business now or you will be put on a train?
Do you know what she did?
She did the same thing that Kono did.
She forced the people that had COVID to go back into the nursing homes where they infected all the people.
Unbelievable.
Our businesses in Michigan were among the top Businesses in the country for the duration that they were closed.
She set records for the number of businesses that were killed as a result of what she did.
And the amazing thing is she got re-elected.
And she got re-elected by nine points!
Yeah, I didn't get it either.
Well, by ten and a half, actually.
I didn't get it either.
Do you know why she got re-elected?
No.
Because you and Chief Craig weren't on the ballot.
Because they kicked me off the ballot!
They kicked me off the ballot and they said that the signatures... They infiltrated your signature process, didn't they?
Yes.
If I recall correctly.
Well, wait, yeah.
I said to my son also... I said, look, the signature I have now doesn't reflect the signature I had when I registered to vote.
You couldn't even tell.
I mean, I'll sign the book for you.
It doesn't even look the same, right?
I said, show us the signatures.
Actually, my attorney said, show us the signatures that you said were bad.
Well, we don't know what signatures we looked at.
That's a matter of record.
In court.
The Supreme Court wouldn't hear it.
When I took it, they told us that on Friday at 7.30, and then on Monday, we filed in federal court.
They sit on it for a week, and their excuse is, at the end, there isn't enough paper to reprint the ballots.
So they took out, they took out- The top two, Chief Craig and myself.
Several, several candidates.
Five.
Yeah.
The ones they've been worried about the most.
Well, the two top, the most important thing.
I'm not making this up.
No, I remember that.
And of course, you know, I have an awful lot of experience with your state.
It's unbelievable.
That is why I know, I know, I know the bad parts of your state really well, unfortunately, because of the election.
Of 2020.
And also, I don't have very high regard for a lot of the Republicans in your state.
Who I'm not sure are Republicans.
Well, I'm a Republican.
No, I don't know about you.
There are a lot of great ones.
Like Ted.
A lot of great Republicans.
And you know the ones that I support.
But there were an awful lot of double crosses in Michigan.
Yeah, I know.
That is the problem.
Wow!
I would say— You have a huge problem there, yeah.
I mean, I dealt very closely with five states, negotiated with them very, very hard.
I would say Michigan was the worst in terms of Republicans who do business with the Democrats and take whatever little crumbs the Democrats will give them.
But you know, Snyder, he was a governor for eight years, did a good job.
We had real good success.
Engler was— Engler was a great governor.
Great governor, right?
He's actually the one that talked me into running for governor.
No, you've had some great governors, but recently, the last seven or eight years, the party has become sort of subservient.
It has a subservient feeling.
It doesn't mean you don't have great people, but it needs revival.
Maybe you can do that for them.
It does.
Well, I intend to win Michigan.
You certainly have that attitude.
Michigan will be number five.
The presidential race, as you all know, at this stage, it doesn't mean a whole lot.
In fact, I don't think Trump even had announced at this point.
It wasn't even running.
But you have to be able to do well in the beginning states.
If you do not do well in Iowa or New Hampshire, you're out.
You're essentially done for.
So you have to at least do pretty well in Iowa.
If the expectations are that you are going to win and you end up finishing third, it's a disaster.
Yeah, expectations and results have a lot to do with the early primaries.
Like, for example, you need to do better than they think you're going to do.
Right.
I know you don't want to.
You don't have to win.
You've got to do better than they think you're going to do.
The minute that happens, then you put yourself in a position to be able to win.
Right.
And I'm sure I'm not telling you something you don't know.
The way it always works.
You better finish.
You better not do dramatically worse than they expect.
And you better finish in the top five in Iowa and five in New Hampshire.
Or maybe four or five in New Hampshire.
Right.
Depending on who you are.
Right.
I mean, if you were DeSantis and you finished third, you're out.
What are your thoughts on the DeSantis campaign?
Whereas if you finish third, you'd be on your way.
Yes, if I finish third, you'd be on your way.
I'd be on my way.
Yeah, I mean, so that's the difference in, it isn't so much the position, it's where you're coming from.
Right.
So you don't, if a guy is on the outside, and let's face it, I am the outsider of outsiders.
So when you have something like that, and you end up finishing third, which I think I can do, I certainly expect to finish 3rd or 4th in Iowa, and I think I can finish 3rd or 4th in New Hampshire.
That would make a big difference.
If I do that, I'm on my way.
It would change the race.
When did you get in the CPAC straw poll?
We finished 3rd.
You finished 3rd.
Now, I remember that.
That's why I picked it.
That's why I picked 3rd.
That got you a lot of attention.
People started reading about Perry Johnson and his incredibly... Well, they liked my speech.
Yes, sir.
Well, I think, Perry, it's going to be a question of...
Your time.
I mean, if you have the kind of personality, the more contact you can make, the better you're going to do.
I know.
And still, there's a limit on the amount of time.
The choices that you make about where you go are going to have a lot to do with what you win.
Well, I am spending most of the time in Iowa and New Hampshire.
Well, you got to at the beginning.
Because that's the key, right?
And you have to do that.
And I love retail politics.
I can see that.
You can see that, right?
I mean, I love it.
I can see that.
I can tell the moment I saw you on television, I could tell that.
When can folks catch the docuseries?
Is that 9 o'clock?
This Sunday, it's at 7.30.
Okay.
But the rest of the weeks, it'll always be at nine o'clock Sunday.
On Newsmax.
Yep.
And they can always go online and see the series afterwards.
Perry.
They go to what?
Perry?
Perry.
PerryJohnson.com.
PerryJohnson.com.
And there they can get.
Well, if they go slash backstage.
They go directly to that.
That's exciting.
So they can get it as a podcast, too.
That's right.
And they can watch it.
And it's really behind the scenes.
Now, some of the stuff I probably shouldn't have shown.
Oh, now they'll definitely watch it!
That's intriguing, Perry!
Because we have, as you will find out, I never use a teleprompter.
There is nothing memorized.
I am what I am, and I've spent my entire life essentially giving seminars.
I started giving seminars in the beginning, never used a note.
I don't need them, and they're going to see me speaking from the heart every time.
And unfortunately, some of the things I say I probably shouldn't say, but Well, you've got to go reach some voters.
Your staff needs you out there.
Every moment in New Hampshire is... And we probably got to, by the time we finish with the podcast, we'll get to about four or five hundred thousand people tonight.
So, you haven't wasted your time.
Thanks.
Oh, I'm delighted.
Very good luck.
I'm very, very impressed.
Very impressed.
And we'll be in touch again, for sure.
Thanks.
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I'll tell you that was an impressive, impressive, Candidate with a very, very upbeat, happy message, which I think is so important.
The happy warrior, which I guess goes back to Roosevelt as a description.
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As soon as Kirk is finished, as soon as we're finished with the ad, we'll put Kirk on and get an update
that we always look forward to on the economy and some wise advice on how to protect ourselves as
our economy seems to...
It doesn't just like muddle along, it seems to deteriorate every week.
Kirk, can you hear the mayor?
I can.
Kirk, I can hear you perfect, Kirk.
Awesome!
So where do you think we are right now, Kirk, in terms of our economy, and what kind of wise words would you give people about what they should be thinking about?
You look at what happened over the last couple of days with the debt ceiling.
I mean, it explains a lot.
We're not in a good spot.
Because if you go back weeks, you know, you've got McCarthy and Biden in there.
They're pretending to be arguing about raising the debt ceiling.
So you've got Biden that says, we're never going to negotiate.
And McCarthy says, no, you can't raise the debt ceiling.
So then So then Biden basically kind of shows his true colors and goes to Japan for a little bit for the G7 meetings, because he's more concerned about G7 and global policy than domestic policy and what's happening to Americans here.
So then they come back and they get talking again.
And what did they do?
They raised the debt ceiling, just like you and I talked about how they would.
So, but they didn't just do it a little, Mayor.
You did it a lot.
They raised it $4 trillion.
It passed the House yesterday.
The Senate's going to vote on it within the next few hours, probably.
And so, I mean, no, no doubt in my mind, it's going to pass, you know, with flying colors, but here's the issue with it.
So we started a nation here, just a baby in 1776, right?
So we had zero debt because we didn't have time to spend like drunken sailors.
So we went from zero debt.
to $31 trillion worth of debt 250 years later.
Okay, so realize, it took us 250 years to accumulate $31 trillion worth of debt.
In one morning, they just raised the debt ceiling by $4 trillion.
See, it's out of control.
So the ramifications of that are coming at the worst possible time.
When you've got the BRICS nations that are rising up, they're removing the petrodollar standards.
So now, We don't have any demand for our currency when we just added more debt than what we've ever had.
An ADP's report came out this morning that said wages are still coming down.
And you've got unemployment that's higher than it's been in the last 18 months.
This is ridiculous, right?
So, horrible economy, wages coming down, inflation persisting, and in the world of politics, only in D.C., does it make sense to add debt to get rid of debt?
Of course, absolutely.
This is the problem.
This is the problem.
And I don't see this as getting much better.
And I was watching a video, Mayor, Two mornings ago, because I'm thinking, why does President Biden keep making all these bad decisions, right?
Well, who is whispering in his ear, right?
So we have to start, who are his advisors?
Who is he talking to?
So I was looking at February 14th, Jared Bernstein became nominated for head of the Council of Economic Advisors, right?
So these three people are the ones that whisper the most or speak loudly and shout into the president's ear about economic policy.
Well, who's Jared Bernstein?
Jared Bernstein was in the Clinton labor department.
He's, he was known of, of being a huge major proponent of worker power.
Okay.
When you hear the words worker power, that should scream communist, right?
100%.
Absolutely.
100%.
But then it goes one step further.
In 2014, Bernstein wrote an article basically saying, We need to dethrone the king dollar.
Okay, so he's whispering into the president's ear now, as head of the Council of Economic Advisers, and he's written an article about he doesn't want the dollar to be the world's reserve currency, right?
So no wonder, as you're looking at what's happening, the backdrop of everything we're seeing today, the BRICS nations rising up, We're removing the petrodollar standard.
The dollar isn't going to be the world's reserve currency.
And they're getting zero opposition.
from the current White House because the people whispering into the president's ear that he believes in their ideology are saying, well, we want the dollar to die.
We don't want it to be the world's reserve currency.
Imagine what how different a story it would be if the BRICS nations are rising up, taking away the petrodollar status, trying to remove the US dollars, the world's reserve currency.
If you had Reagan or Trump in office, they would say, no way.
Right.
Not under my watch.
This is never going to happen.
But under a globalist agenda policy that we're seeing now, the erosion of America, the fabric of everything that we know and hold near and dear to our heart, Including our finances, our checkbooks, our retirement plans are eroding because of these horrible... How much, how much, how much of that can I protect myself against?
Or the theoretical, whatever a person we talk about, how much can they protect themselves against if they move into silver, gold, if they divert, if they are diversified to some extent?
How much protection do they get from that?
So, you get as much protection as you want to diversify, right?
So, you diversify a little, you get a little protection.
You diversify a lot, you get a lot of protection.
See, because they're counter opposing forces.
Yes.
Explain that so people understand.
Explain that so people understand that.
Why is that so?
If you've got paper assets, the bond market comes down when interest rates rise.
When interest rates rise and people are shackled with debt and they're living hand-to-mouth margin, at the margin right now.
Rising interest rates, rising prices, rising taxes will cause them to spend less that causes stocks, bonds to come down and real estate to come down.
Well, those exact forces of unsustainable debt, political chaos, geopolitical conflict, inflating prices, you know, that all causes gold and silver to go up.
So here's where your protection Against the forces that are prevailing against us, these major headwinds against our economy, causing stocks, bonds, mutual funds to come down.
You have to realize, Mayor, those exact same forces cause gold and silver to go up.
So you're protected by as much as you diversify, if that makes sense.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Sure, absolutely.
So basically, as long as things remain moving in that direction, you're moving in the opposite direction, so you're protected.
Correct.
I mean, it's not that I'm against the stock market or bond market or anything.
I mean, I actually love them when the time is right.
But for that to grow again, for those particular markets to grow again, we need a president like Trump or Trump himself, right, that lowers taxes, lowers interest rates and starts creating jobs.
Until then, you're pushing.
against major headwinds, that it's going to be very difficult to get a profit in your portfolio, but it's going to be very easy to get it in gold and silver.
Look at what silver has done.
It was 11, because I want people to understand, and I don't want them to take my word for it, right?
So back in March of 2020, silver was $11.91 an ounce.
Today it's about 24.
Well, that's doubled in three years.
It's doubled.
So that's on average growing over 30% a year.
That's amazing.
Who would be crying crocodile tears over that kind of a return?
When I hear people that are saying, Oh, my stock market portfolio is going down.
My bonds are getting sunk.
My real estate's coming down.
It's like, okay, reallocate, diversify into safety.
Because silver has not been doing bad.
In fact, it's been doing amazing.
The number one asset class in the world over the last few years.
And that trend is going to continue because the forces that caused its growth are still there.
They're getting worse.
And that means silver still has a lot of upward movement in it.
And that's how you protect and preserve your portfolio against these stupid government policies that neither one of us can control.
Now, if and when the situation changes, do you and your people have the flexibility to recommend changing back in the other direction?
Well, yeah.
We want to lock in profits.
I know that.
I just wanted to make sure people understood that.
Yeah.
So when gold or silver are gone, we'll lock in our profits.
At that time, you know, maybe people go back into stocks.
Maybe they go back into bonds, you know, where interest rates are sky high like they were in 1983 when interest rates were 18% on a 30-year mortgage.
Well, that would be the time you want to lock into a bond for 30 years, right?
When interest rates are that high.
Or maybe we get out of silver and we go into gold.
If we have a gold-backed dollar by that point, maybe you want to stay in gold because it'll be growth moving forward if it's backing a currency.
The thing is, Mayor, we don't know what the exit strategy is until it's right in front of us.
Of course not.
There always is one.
Of course there is.
It'd be silly to have one until the facts present themselves that suggest what the right strategy is.
I just wanted people to know that you're not a one-horse pony.
No, and it might sound like I am because I talk about silver.
Well, that's what you should be talking about right now.
Because it's the only thing that's doing well right now to protect and preserve, to grow a portfolio, to thrive, because our goal as investors is to minimize risk and maximize return.
Different times in history, different things, but that category of minimizing risk and maximizing return, right now it just happens to be silver.
Now, if people want to have a conversation about how to do this, which is geared to their own personal situation, which really is different for everyone, just tell them how to do it.
So you can do one of two things.
You can go online and fill out a little web form that asks you questions.
I want a free consultation.
Just go to KirkElliottPhD.com forward slash Rudy.
Or, that's a website that we put up just for your show here, or you can just call us simply 720-605-3900.
Those are on the screen.
720-605-3900 and just say Rudy sent you.
And then they can have a personal, confidential conversation and figure out something that applies directly to them.
Yeah, we're going to listen to their dreams, their fears, their aspirations, their goals, income needs, growth needs, right?
And this is why we don't have a cookie cutter approach.
Everybody is significantly different.
I think that's great.
So we'll go over that in the free consultation.
They will set you up with our advisors or myself, and we'll go over these things and map out a strategy for success moving forward that will get you out of the path of this hurricane.
Thank you, Kirk, and you have a great weekend, and we'll be looking forward to talking to you next week.
But make sure you make that call.
I think it's necessary for you to have an evaluation.
I don't know, Kirk, it's sort of like getting a physical and seeing how things are and then getting a recommendation for your doctor on how to put yourself in the best possible position.
So I would, I'd follow through KirkElliottPhD.com forward slash Rudy.
And you can organize a telephone call with Kirk or one of his very, very expert people, and they can apply the principles that Kirk has been talking about and I've been talking about.
They can apply them to you because that's the only way to really do it.
They're not, There's a general part to this, which is applies to everyone.
And then there's a particular part that applies to you.
And that can only be done.
I mean, that can't be done, you know, on a basis where it's the same for everyone.
So make the phone call.
It'll really help you.
And thank you, Kirk, very, very much for all the help you're giving people.
We really appreciate it.
This is exactly what America needs right now.
So I think we've had quite a good show tonight.
I'm always impressed with Kirk because he's giving people practical help and advice, which, you know, not everyone, I guess, is going to take it.
They never do.
But you've got nothing to lose calling them and just thinking it out for yourself and then deciding what you want to do.
But just to get some free advice that's worth it from people who are experts and have nothing in mind, but you're making money and they're making money.
That's the nice thing about something like that.
They don't make any money unless you make money, so you know they're concentrating exactly on the problem.
That exists, and it's a strange thing, but you look at the tremendous damage that's being done by Biden, but if you understand the dynamics of our extraordinarily complex economy, every disaster also presents opportunities.
And that's what Kirk is talking to you about.
Can I have a copy of the book as we sign off, so I show it to people?
Dr. Maria, can I have your copy?
Oh, you didn't get one?
Well, I can't imagine.
If I were... Well, that's the only thing I had... Perry, I gotta say, if I had a choice between giving...
Copy to me or to Dr. Maria.
I give one to Dr. Maria.
There's Perry's.
I see Arthur Laffer did the forward to it.
Arthur Laffer, of course, was the economist that came up with a lot of the Reagan, I think, would be credited with a lot of the elements of Reaganomics, including the Laffer curve, which, if I recall correctly, because I used it Myself and lowering taxes in New York shows you the impact that lowering taxes can have on the economy and also can be I created my own variation of it where I showed that if you cut taxes intelligently you can actually make more money for the government from the lower taxes than you can from the higher taxes or by cutting one tax you can you can pick it up
In multiples in another tax.
For example, if you were to cut the income tax or get rid of it like you do in New Hampshire, so many more people move in that you pick it up in the property tax.
So there's an art to taxation that is an art and a science to Republicans and to Democrats.
It's really just an application of Marx, redistribution of wealth.
They have no idea of the enormously dynamic things you can do to an economy to bring people out of poverty and actually give them an opportunity for wealth with very, very dynamic tax programs.
Democrats, with regard to taxes, are like Neanderthals.
Neanderthals, all they have is the big, you know, the big club And that's it, and they smash you into subjugation and into dependency.
Republicans are like brain surgeons when it comes to the economy.
So different.
Well, it is very invigorating to be here in New Hampshire.
We had a good day today talking to people and picking up what's going on in the various primaries.
I guess the game is over now, right?
The game is... Let's take a look at it.
Let's close out with some of the games.
Well, no, wait now.
It is not over because I see... I see the Fisher Cats going into their dugout.
And the... I think it's over because... So the Fisher... Can you move to your... No, no, no.
The other team... Can you back up a little bit, Mayor?
Back up?
Yeah.
Back up in your chair to get out of the shot so we can show the Let's show this view to the audience.
I'm here.
The other team is coming out now on the field.
Am I backed up enough?
The other team now is coming out on the field.
The Phils are coming out on the field.
I don't see the scoreboard, unfortunately.
It's right... center field is over here.
They only have one scoreboard.
I mean, I'm used to...
Watch the scoreboard.
Yankee Stadium.
The game is not over.
The game is not yet over.
It appears that it's still... Can you check online maybe and see if there's an online something for the Fisher Cats and we can tell them what's going on here?
They're warming up a pitcher here.
Yeah, some new pitcher.
Yes.
What we have on here that...
Oh, okay.
All right.
Of course, Mary, this is the this is happening right behind us here.
So I don't know how much of it you can see, but we'll watch the rest of the
game and let you know tomorrow what happened.
And we thank you very, very much for tuning in tonight and watching us.
God bless you and God bless America.
We'll see you tomorrow night.
God bless.
God bless.
you America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
There was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom
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