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Hello, this is Rudy Giuliani back with Rudy's Common Sense, another episode.
And today we're going to do an overview of the 2024 election.
We're going to do it for a couple of reasons.
First, to do an overview.
But second, because I want your advice.
I want your advice on what you would like to see us do to cover this in a way that gets you the information you need in a timely way.
And beyond the censorship of the prevailing government media conspiracy to cover just half the news, and at that, false, and covered up, as they did last time with the hard drive.
But it wasn't just a hard drive.
I mean, it included Joe Biden writing a letter to all the media saying they shouldn't put me on television as soon as he entered the race.
Pretty extraordinary and pretty arrogant, and I told you right away, he knew he owned them, right?
Never realized he owned them as much as he did.
So we're here to try to get you the rest of it.
And interest first in our presentation will be some suggestions on what you would like to see us do.
Maybe a panel discussion, which we can, we can live stream once a week, maybe twice a week.
Would it be better on a Saturday or Sunday?
Would it be better during the week?
I'd love to have you communicate with us at RudyGiulianiCS.com.
And just tell us what you would prefer to see.
I have with me Ted.
You know, you know, Ted Goodman from both from this show.
He's been in here several times, but also Ted does the eight to nine o'clock live stream that I do every day.
And that's on.
Oh, I don't always remember all of them.
That's on YouTube, it's on Twitter, it's on Getter, it's on Facebook, and it's on Twitch.
That's right, Mayor.
We got them all.
Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Rumble, Getter, and Twitch.
Stay tuned.
We're growing.
We'll be on more platforms in the coming weeks and months.
We now have gone from when we started back in October 8,000 to always now going over 200,000.
And sometimes reaching three.
That's right.
So it's growing and growing and growing.
And I don't think there's any doubt it's going to grow more as we get closer to the election.
So that's a good platform for us to use to find a way to communicate to you on the election.
But let's first go to what should conceivably be the easiest of all, and that's the Democrat nomination for president of the United States.
And Maybe we'll hold this up so they can see this.
Well, that might be a little too small to see.
What do you think?
So what we're showing folks right now, for those of you listening into the podcast, is a real clear politics polling average of the 2024 Democrat presidential nomination process.
What it basically shows is that Biden has a commanding lead, right?
I mean, almost impossible that Kennedy or anybody else can catch him.
They're only showing Biden, Kennedy, and Williamson.
Basically, the average, Real Clear Politics average is 64, rounded off to 65% for Biden,
rounded off to 20% for Kennedy, and 7% for Williamson, which is a 45-point lead.
There are only three polls.
The biggest lead is 49 and the lowest is 43 for Biden.
So that 45% is right in the middle.
And that looks like a very commanding lead.
Now, here's why it might not be.
First of all, unlike when we see the Republican nomination for president, even though Biden is way ahead, as you see, there is no gap Between Kennedy and him.
In other words, that's just open field.
When we look at the Republicans, we're going to see a whole bunch of people.
I think there are seven now and others.
And the real question is going to be who are they running against?
Are they running against Trump or they're running against DeSantis?
And that 20% is roughly what DeSantis has in the.
On the Republican side, that's right on the Republican side, so.
How would you rate?
Kennedy's chances.
That's a very good question, Mayor.
And you, of course, have been talking about this ever since RFK Jr.
got into the race.
And that's the fact that his message is resonating with a larger portion of the Democrat primary electorate than maybe the Biden people had initially thought.
So what are his chances?
Look, the Democrat Party is very good at getting who they want to the nomination.
If you look at 2016.
Look, look, look, look what they did when they gave I think it was in a primary debate where they gave Hillary the questions and the answers beforehand.
It's like you can't even make it up, right?
You wouldn't write that in a script to a movie because it would be too unbelievable.
Forget fixing the 2020 election.
It was always pretty much rumored that Hillary fixed the 2016 nomination.
Bernie Sanders really won it.
The Democrat Party did to Bernie Sanders in 2016 what the Republican Party leadership wished they could have done to Trump in 2016, right?
Bernie Sanders comes in, the anti-establishment, at least from the Democrat Party's perspective, the anti-representative, the anti-establishment wing, comes in there, is doing well, better than many thought against Hillary Clinton, beat her in Michigan in the primary, if you remember, And you're right, Mayor, they did whatever they had to do to ensure Bernie Sanders wasn't going to be the nominee.
They did that again in 2020.
Yeah, I think in 2020 it was easier.
Yeah, I think in 2020 it was easier, but in 2016, I mean, I was, I was closer to, I mean,
I was closer to, I actually went to the Democratic convention in 2016.
And that could be a whole podcast on its own, I'm sure.
I got questions there about- I went to every one up until 2016 for about four or five in a row.
I was the designated Republican to go on nomination day.
No, not nomination day, acceptance speech day.
Wow.
And I go the night before, do some shows the night before, and then do them on the morning to step all over their speech.
I did it with Obama when he built those Roman columns and he came out in Denver.
Yeah, I got I did the morning shows and the cops told me you should see what they're building for this guy because I didn't like him.
And I went on and I said tonight, you know, I kind of bullied for that tonight is going to show up like he's Nero come out with a Roman columns.
And then when Hillary, when I went to when I went to the 16 in Philly, the cops told me they had been excluded from the convention.
She wanted no uniforms in the convention.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And really?
And the Philadelphia police chief complained and said, how can we protect you?
You know, no uniforms.
Why did she not want uniforms?
Because she didn't want the image of anybody seeing the Democrats hate the police.
You know, that Democrats hate the police.
We had a convention back in.
Twelve or eight where they didn't I don't think they did a prayer before.
They didn't do a prayer before the convention.
Then they were forced to make believe.
You know, they pray.
I think they pray to nature.
You know, they pray to the climate change god.
The God of climate change.
Speaking of climate change, that's, of course, one point people when they talk about RFK Jr.
Mayor, they point to his maybe more radical positions when it comes to climate.
However, how strong, in your opinion, as a former Kennedy Democrat growing up like my father, how strong is that label today?
And can that can that benefit RFK Jr.?
Well, it could benefit him in the or the Kennedy Democrat party.
Yeah.
I think the strong Global change thing can benefit him more in the in the Democrat primary.
His position on climate change.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That that I mean, he's been a much more consistent supporter of global warming measures.
And Biden's been all over the place, like everything else, and not particularly effective.
He hasn't got anything done.
He hasn't.
Ball hasn't moved at all.
I mean, the Paris accords were out of Trump.
Thank God took us out of it.
He hasn't put us back in.
He's done a lot of damage to us.
But he's not really made any permanent progress.
Maybe permanent progress isn't even possible without totally ruining the economy.
But Kennedy has real credentials on climate change.
Now, that could be a problem for him in the general election, that he's an extremist on climate change.
But the issues that have him ahead now are almost like conservative issues.
Lower spending, more military spending, His position on COVID and the... Get out of foreign wars, which sounds like not, you know, let's not give our entire, let's not sign our entire budget over Ukraine.
Yeah.
And, and also big, big, here, he and Trump are one, and that is wipe out the deep state.
That the FBI is corrupt, that a lot of the government is corrupt, thoroughly, whether it's Republican or Democrat, wipe it out and let's start over again with these agencies.
And I know that sounds a little simplistic.
I did it and it can be done.
I did it on a smaller scale.
New York, but New York is not a small scale.
Yeah, it's a pretty good.
I don't put New York in small scale in the same sentence too much.
It's a pretty good laboratory.
And I tell you, I got rid of 8,000, 7,000, eventually 12,000 people.
So you figure out what that is as a percentage.
Do that in the federal government.
Nobody even feel it.
Get rid of it.
20% of the federal government.
Nobody even know what happened.
If there was no education department, the only thing that would happen is kids would get educated better.
Or it's like when the government, when the federal government shuts down, I have to tell my friends when I'm in DC, I got to tell my friends back in Michigan, the government shut down.
They don't know.
If you look at Trump, Kennedy, Ramaswamy, the others, I don't know on this.
Uh, they are all one, whatever political party on the idea that we're in, uh, among other things, a regulatory dictatorship.
That's right.
That our government now is run by regulatory agencies, not by the Congress.
They don't even read the bills.
Right?
At least the last speaker didn't even want them to read them.
We read them after they get passed.
And then all the legislating, the actual policies are done by these bureaucrats that aren't, that are independent, independent of the White House, independent of the Congress, all these agencies with, you know, FCC and FTC and they're the, considering we're now a socialist or communist government, they're like the apparatchiks.
They're crushing business, they're crushing agriculture, except very big business, which is where they make their deals.
So in the pharmaceutical area, which is Kennedy's main area, right?
The pharmaceutical industry owns the government agencies.
People go back and forth.
And we even found out at the end of the pandemic scandal that Fauci and all his little liars get royalties from them.
And they won't even tell us what The royalties they got during the pandemic.
Suppose they got a tremendous amount of money from those companies that were making these vaccines that are not vaccines because they don't prevent the illness and seem now like they may have done as much harm as good or maybe more harm.
But in any event, suppose they got millions from it.
We don't know if they did or didn't because they won't tell us about the royalties.
So they run the government.
And I think there's a growing opinion on both sides of the aisles among very tough, independent, honest people like Kennedy, like Trump, like Ramaswamy.
No more bull.
We've got to get rid of it.
And that's right, Mayor, and I think you're correct in that there's a growing appetite for that.
And President Trump deserves a lot of credit.
Oh, my God.
Well, and you were with him in 2016, the campaign that you ran.
I helped him with that part of his policy.
Well, I didn't run it.
I worked on it on a very high level.
I say that Steve Bannon ran it.
Yeah.
But the campaign saw that you guys ran as a team.
One of the things I was very big on, and I recommended this to him because I said, why don't you just say you're going to cut every fifth regulation?
You take the code of federal regulation and you put it on a floor.
And you show it back in 1930.
Now you show it today.
So it's down there and it goes through the roof now.
And I said, why don't you just say you're going to get rid of half of it?
Pick any half.
Just get rid of it.
Just start taking them out.
And he kind of picked up on that.
And he said, for every new regulation, we're going to get rid of a regulation.
He eventually got rid of four for every one.
That's right.
And I know it really well because my son worked on that for two years.
Andrew is very proud of that.
And I remember that being a point out there, the fact that he was.
So I think it's interesting.
So, you know, I think let's move on to the more the more competitive races.
But.
Well, here's the question.
Kennedy's got an outside chance.
Let's put it that way.
And he's going to need a break, just like the Republicans are going to need a break.
Otherwise, it's going to be Biden and Trump.
Biden's and look, Biden could trip.
Biden could stop talking.
Biden could be Get so, I don't know how much more stupid he could get, but he could say even more stupid things.
Is it possible?
I don't know.
But the last question before we move on, what would you do if you were advising RFK Jr.
at this point in the race?
What would you, honest advice, what would you advise him to do in order to continue to chip away at Biden's lead?
What he's doing?
Stay on the issues.
Stay away from personal attacks on Biden because you're in a Democrat primary, different for a Republican.
Attack the hell out of him, fine.
But you're in the Democrat primary, and they always liked Biden, stupidly.
I mean, this crook sold him on the fact that he's somehow a decent guy.
He isn't.
He's a horrible human being.
And the biggest crook we've had in the White House.
But Democrats aren't ready to buy that.
Republicans have bought it, and independents have majority bought it.
But Democrats haven't bought that yet.
So stay away from that.
Make a little reference to it.
But basically stay on what you're on.
See how many Democrats really do think it's become excessive.
You might find that a lot have.
That's right.
Well, Mayor, of course, now you want to... Now we go to the more complicated Republican one, if it is more complicated.
So the more complicated Republican one, whereas he has a 45 point lead, you look at the real clear politic averages and Trump is a 37 rounded off lead.
And he's got a couple of 45s and he's got a 42.
He's got three recent polls.
In the low to mid 40s, which is essentially where Biden is with, with Kennedy, except Trump is against a field of they, who do they have here?
They have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
They even put Sununu in.
Sometimes they put on these guys that I don't, I don't even know who they are.
It is a seven person field, which.
That's quite the lead, right, Mayor?
I'd say that's very impressive.
I mean, the average is 56%, which is a majority.
The Harvard poll is 58.
The Rasmussen poll, which is a 62.
I mean, almost all of these but one is over 50%.
So the worst one is Reuters, where he's 49-21 over DeSantis.
And it's really because there are more undecideds there.
His smallest lead is 28% and his largest is 46%.
So it's right here.
Let's bring that in.
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you Welcome back to Rudy's Common Sense.
And as you know, we're discussing the 2024 election, particularly the presidential and the Senate elections, in an overview, really for the purpose of then exploring with you what you would like to see us do, best format, so that we can keep presenting this to you on a weekly basis.
Because there can be a lot of facts that I get, that he gets, that Dr. Maria gets, and our team, that are just not going to be reported.
And we want to get them to you.
And I'm sure there'll be others doing it, but it isn't like it's easily available.
I mean, they're going to engage in censorship this time, just like they did last time.
That's right.
And I think we've got to realize that the Durham report helps them in the sense that there was no deterrent.
Everything they did to screw up the 2016 election with paying for the Steele dossier, which was a big lie, And then everything they did in 2020 with covering up the hard drive and anything else you imagine, maybe not just imagination, they're perfectly free to do again because nobody got punished.
That's right, Mayor.
Nobody got punished.
If it was a street gang or organized crime, they'd say, hmm, let's keep going until they do something to us.
Well, they are organized crime.
Republican presidential nomination.
Trump has a commanding lead.
DeSantis has slipped massively.
And the question is, and I think this is almost answered, except for a few people with a gripe or a grudge or a chip on their shoulder, like Christie and Hutchinson.
Maybe Sununu, he's sort of a bitter guy about Trump too.
Most of these people are running against DeSantis.
And they may be running against DeSantis too, because you can't get to Trump until you displace DeSantis.
Even though he's only at 19%, 19.4%, and that's the average, he has a commanding lead over them. Just the way Trump has
a commanding lead over him, the closest to him is like 15 points away.
And that's by a man who's not even in yet.
And that's Pence, who really has no chance.
We know that.
I mean, he's going to stay at that 5% and it's going to go down.
Those people, as time goes by, if he gets in, are going to get distributed elsewhere.
I mean, Mayor, what do you think of Nikki Haley?
She's been in the race for quite some time.
Hasn't really moved much in the polls.
I don't know what you would say about her campaign at this point.
I would say it's got nothing.
I mean, if she were going to have gotten a bump, she would have gotten when she came in.
I mean, DeSantis at least, you know, has a chance of getting a bump when he comes in. That'll be
an interesting thing to see if there's any life left in his campaign when he announces is he going
to take a five six point bump.
Is he going to get to about 25 percent? If he comes in and gets no bump, I don't know,
he might want might want to pack his bags and go back to Florida to Florida.
He can do both with the new rules.
Ken, so with this polling, Mayor, so that's right.
So you're saying when DeSantis does officially announce, which we're expecting soon, you expect him to potentially, or his campaign at least, is expecting to pick up a little bit from these folks, right?
If you announce for president and you don't pick up, you got to be stupid not to get the message.
Right?
I mean, it's gonna go down.
I remember when I was running in in 07, 08, and Senator Thompson came into the race.
And either I was leading or McCain was leading.
I think it was at that point, we were just like switching.
I was beginning to, because John had run out of money.
And I remember talking and we remained close friends all during the election.
You, and you, and John, and Fred, and Huckabee.
Huckabee, okay.
I was always friends with Fred.
Yeah.
But we all thought that Fred shouldn't run.
Yeah.
Not only because of us, but because we already had no chance.
Yeah.
He came in, and for about four days, he became the frontrunner.
I remember that, being in high school.
I remember that.
I remember one of the reporters, and everybody gets a little worried when that happens.
Yeah, it's hard not to, right?
They love to tell you, oh, gee, gee.
And one of the reporters on television, nobody favorable to this, said, This'll be the highest point that Thompson has had in the entire race.
He went right down.
He just went right down.
I remember this, though.
He was... It was nothing he did.
It was like...
People were just excited, and then they took a look.
He was a TV guy!
He was in that, wasn't he?
Yeah, they took a look at him, and there really wasn't much to his... He was in a Law and Order episode or something, right?
And then they looked at the candidates they had who were more accomplished than he was, and they went back to him.
I mean, it was a strange thing.
But I'll tell you what I like about this race, from an academic point of view.
If I were teaching political science, I would make this a... The two presidential races are completely different.
One is one I describe like the Belmont States that was won by Secretariat.
He gets out to a lead.
He's the only horse to catch.
You get about halfway through the race, and the question is, can anybody catch him?
Of course, nobody could catch him.
He expanded his lead, and he was ahead by about 10 city blocks by the time he won the race.
Wow.
Now, the Republican race is Big field, like the Kentucky Derby.
One horse is out front by almost as much as the guy in front of Kennedy, right?
And then there's a second horse who's way behind, but he's the one horse way behind, and then the horses behind him.
Whole group of them.
Now, what do those horses behind him have to do to win?
Cause it isn't over when the race, you know, they come out of the gate.
Yeah.
Well, those horses have to pass that number two guy.
Yes.
Which is why if you listen to Scott and you can see that Haley's already taken shots at.
Hillary has already taken shots at DeSantis, so has Ramaswamy.
Scott didn't, but he didn't take any shots at Trump.
He didn't take any shots at anybody.
If anything, he was perfectly friendly with the whole world.
And I would say that's the way to run with an electorate, a Republican electorate, that at least a good portion of it is in love with Trump.
But whether you are in love with him or not, you got to understand that this party is the party base.
Yeah, that is the 65 percent that he's up to now.
I mean, this is just a little short of the 75 percent that he's always had.
And he may get back there.
And that's right, Mayor.
I like that you said that 75 percent.
You know, there's this this is there's this line of thinking out there.
Oh, he's got, you know, 30, 40 percent of the Republican base, no matter what.
That's not true.
Trump has.
70 to 80, if not 90 percent of the Republican base.
He doesn't always have it.
He loses it sometimes.
But when things are going right, he can get it.
And the Democrats have helped him mightily by proving that he was right about all the things that they were demonizing him about.
And it's starting to look that, you know, that whole January 6th thing.
Again, the Democrats fraudulently blew it out of proportion.
Sure, something happened and it was bad.
It wasn't Pearl Harbor.
And it wasn't September 11.
And it wasn't even an insurrection.
Oh, gosh.
The first unarmed insurrection.
Nobody had a gun.
Now it turns out they were working with the banks to try to find people with guns so they could arrest somebody with a gun.
They couldn't.
So all these things are becoming complete Exaggerations, the hard drive with the 51 liars that they put together.
All of this keeps slowly, well, first of all, it quickly brings his base back.
Yes.
But it's beginning to take the independence, beginning to take the independence.
Now, can something happen to change that momentum?
Sure.
And I think that's more what all these Republicans have to count on.
I don't think you can beat Trump.
I think he has to beat himself.
Or something external to you has to beat him.
Or the powers that be have to lock him up somehow, right?
Look, that's what they're trying.
They're literally trying to... Oh my goodness, if they lock him up, we might win unanimously.
Yeah, actually, that's a good point.
No, no, I don't think the Democrats can do a damn thing to him.
I think he has to do it to himself.
And, you know, making some kind of critical mistake, or...
Yeah, making some kind of critical mistake or God forbid getting sick or... What would you recommend if you were Governor DeSantis today?
Or if you were advising Governor DeSantis today?
I would not run my campaign against Trump.
I'd run my campaign against Biden.
And would you advise your team to do the same?
I would do the same thing.
I would say I'd make the one point that he's made Which now is not really much of a point because if we look at the polls, in most of the polls, Trump does better against Biden than DeSantis.
So DeSantis way back had the argument, you can't beat Biden, only I can.
Well, that's gone now.
I mean, Trump beats Biden by more than DeSantis does.
And even in the few polls where they lose to Biden, Trump is closer.
Trump, I don't think there's one poll where Trump is either ahead of Biden or within the margin of error.
Whereas there are a couple in which Biden is beating DeSantis pretty bad.
And does it appear to you, Mayor, that Governor DeSantis is intentionally looking for policy positions to the right of former President Trump?
Sure, sure.
I mean, yeah, but that's what you have to do.
Is that a good strategy?
No, he's run a very bad strategy.
He's running, he's been running on a, he's running on His campaign platform is a campaign process.
What that means is I can beat him, he can't.
I'm more approval than he is.
Very practical, not very much emotion.
Let's take Ramaswamy.
Ramaswamy's campaign is issues.
Whether that wins this time or not, you get to fight another day when you do it that way.
When you run the kind of campaign he's running, he's getting people angry.
And I think Scott, at least for the first shot out, looks like he's going to run a campaign more like Ramaswamy than like DeSantis.
So when the campaign's all over and Trump is nominated, which is the most likely thing, there's no bitterness among Republicans that he's hurt.
And God forbid Trump should lose to Biden.
You don't want to have helped Biden in any way by hurting Trump now.
And if DeSantis continues on this course, he's not only going to lose, he's going to hurt himself permanently.
I think he has to evaluate very, very carefully the kind of electorate there is.
And just like Kennedy's not going to get anywhere by personally beating up on Biden among Democrats, you get nowhere by beating up on Trump among Republicans.
And isn't it interesting to see Kennedy doing so, you know, competing against Biden to the same level that DeSantis is competing against Trump when DeSantis seems to have some favorable allies in conservative media where Kennedy may not have the same support on the left.
But DeSantis is not running an issue campaign.
I mean, Kennedy is running a campaign all about issues, not about personalities at all.
DeSantis so far is running a personality campaign.
I'm the better, I'm the nicer guy.
I'm the better guy.
Um, the snide comment he made about the, uh, not ever having about, about the, about knowing what it's like about, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't know what it was like to pay off a prostitute or something like that, you know, unnecessary.
And that was probably bad advice from somebody.
Absolutely stupid.
When you've got even independents and Democrats looking at that case and saying the case is ridiculous.
That's all you had to say.
The case is ridiculous.
Shut up.
That's what everybody else did.
But he went ahead and took a shot.
Now, normally you might if the guy wasn't a god in his party.
Just like in a certain way, he's losing some of it.
But Biden is.
I mean, for Democrats to still say they're going to vote for Biden.
He obviously, they obviously have some unrealistically high view of him, that you're not going to change.
I mean, I think like they used to say, Trump could go shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, his supporters would still be with him.
I think Biden could fall down and not talk again for the rest of his life and they'd still support him.
So both of them have a little of that.
And Trump has more of it, frankly.
I mean, Trump has more of a, of a, enthusiastic following.
Yeah, Mayor, have you ever seen a Biden hat walking down the street?
No, not once.
There's no enthusiasm for Biden, but there's an appreciation that they believe he's the only one that can
beat Trump.
Yes. Because he did.
Yes. And they appreciate him for that.
And he sold, you know, Joe, the Amtrak guy.
Yeah, they sold him as like Uncle Joe.
As if he was an honest Catholic, you know, guy.
When in fact, he's not a Catholic at all.
And he's the most dishonest man that we've ever put in the White House.
But that's where his his marketing team, his campaign teams are.
That's a brilliant move.
Think about it.
Not only is he a massive crook having taken thirty one million dollars from China.
He's a pathological liar.
Oh, he's he's been lying from from the day he got into politics.
But they literally successfully sold him as this nice, friendly guy.
Okay, may not be the intellectual man of the room, but he's a nice guy.
He just stumbles.
In fact, he lies his backside off.
He stumbled all the way to the White House.
Right.
He's a thoroughly dishonest human being from head to toe.
So before we go to the Senate race as mayor, and we already asked- What would you like to know?
So with this primary, who, I mean, Barring something, as we talked about, something really coming to the race that's a curveball, are you willing to make any predictions?
Yeah, I mean, it is, barring a major curveball, Trump is the nominee.
No matter what they do, they could indict him five more times and he could be the nominee.
Because each case gets worse than the other.
When they say the next two are stronger than the other one, they're not.
They're actually sillier.
And I know the backwards and forwards.
But they insist on prosecuting him and the analysis, all but the brainwashed is what the hell are you doing?
I mean, what are you so afraid of this guy for?
And there's a reason is they're so damn corrupt.
They don't want to be kicked out because a lot of them are going to get prosecuted because they're crooks.
But in any event, I think Trump has it unless A catastrophe occurs, like God forbid he gets very ill or something like that.
In the case of Biden, it's a little different.
I would say there's a chance he doesn't make it to the finish line.
Which, of course, we're not wishing for that.
I don't mean death.
I mean his illness of dementia, which is a progressive, meaning deteriorating illness, and it always results in people becoming completely unable to communicate.
If that should happen to him, and it happens suddenly, it's over.
And I don't know if the Democrats have a plan B. It doesn't seem like it doesn't seem like Gavin Newsom or any of these individuals are getting in.
If I were Kennedy, not that I would wish it or it's not, this isn't a wish or anything.
This is just a practical, honest analysis.
They can do all the lying they want to us, but if they don't realize he has dementia, then they're really stupid.
And if they're not having their plans, the possibility that when you have dementia, the lights can just go out.
Then they're not really doing a good job of getting ready for this campaign.
That's right.
And I think the main thing the Republicans have to do is the Republicans have to have to do election integrity in a very different way because they're going to get no help.
The Durham report is no help because it allows the crooks to do what the crooks did in the past, no penalty.
I think they're going to have to emphasize early voting and put a lot of money into that.
We should encourage Republicans, the first day of voting, go out and vote.
There's no magic to voting on election day.
Your vote's not worth more on election day.
God forbid you could get sick and you can't go on election day.
Vote early.
Vote early and encourage your friends and family who share your values.
In a way, we hung on to that voting on election day as a tradition because that's the way we are, but now that's really hurting us.
Uh, and then we have to have, um, we have to have very, very strong.
I mean, I would recommend to the Republicans that whether it's Trump or DeSantis or anyone put, put aside millions for a professional voter integrity effort.
Yes.
So that you monitor those ballots coming in and you monitor this, uh, Zucker boxes.
Uh, let's not count on.
I mean, nobody's going to believe, even though it's accurate as hell, the analysis afterwards based on the iPhones or mobile phones.
So you better have people there watching.
So let's get now to the Senate.
The House, I think, we can say is going to remain Republican.
And if that changes, we'll let you know.
And during our analysis, as we get close to the campaign, we'll start, we'll pick up interesting house races and go through them.
And I want you to now start thinking about, how would you like us to get you this information?
We could once a week have a panel discussion that would include Ted and me and Dr. Maria, particularly about New Hampshire because she knows New Hampshire better than we do in other places.
And then we can also include guests and we could do it by a panel discussion.
We could do it with this format except with three people.
We could do it One night a week, or we could do it on Saturdays, and then it would run as a podcast, so it would be available all weekend.
I'd love to hear your advice, and then who should we have as guests?
Who do you think would be a good guest that you would find particularly... I mean, I know who I think, but I want to hear from you.
Okay.
So, the Senate races, there are 33, as there always are, right?
Because one-third of the Senate runs every two years.
So, this one-third, now, it's always true that there are some races that are just silly, you know.
The incumbent's gonna win, whether it's a Democrat or a Republican, and therefore, what we have to do is what the parties are gonna do, Because each party is gonna, whoever does this best wins, by the way.
The Democrats won last time because they targeted better than the Republicans.
By that, I mean, you gotta figure out what are the most vulnerable, you gotta make sure you put away your vulnerables, and then you gotta go for two or three more.
Republicans have to pick up, to be safe, two seats.
If they win the White House, they have to pick up just one seat.
So it's very close.
Um, so any, any, if any one of these turns over and we don't lose one back to them, then the Republicans have it.
So what we're going to do now is we're going to go through Ted and I before listed the ones we thought were the 10 most, uh, uh, vulnerable.
That's right.
And, um, do you, we'll, we'll put them up on the screen.
We're going to put them on the screen mayor.
And I'll go through, I'll, I'll, uh, Kind of less hair.
Here's our first one.
And then how about you let us know which state you think is most likely to flip and why.
And we can have a little discussion on each one.
Now, we want to start at the easiest, the one I think we're going to flip first.
We can do that.
I think that's the way we wanted to do it.
We'll start with the most, Mayor, in your opinion, 2024, considering the politics and top of the ticket and everything else, what is the state most likely to flip?
There's no doubt it's West Virginia.
Whether Manchin runs or doesn't run.
The two candidates, there is going to be, the only hitch on West Virginia is, well, first of all, if he doesn't run, it's over.
Over, over, over.
If he does run, there is the long-term loyalty to him.
But I think that ran out when he when he voted for the Inflation Reduction Act, which he now wants to take back his vote.
But you don't get to do that, Joe.
And when you caved, I was extremely disappointed in you.
And I thought, you know, I thought for a while maybe you were a little different politician.
And when you did that, I think what happened to me happened to your constituents.
Why is he still a Democrat?
Why is he a Democrat?
You have to ask him that.
I don't know.
They treat him horrible too.
Right?
Knowing he was going to be on the ballot in 24, when Trump would be back on the ballot, in a state like West Virginia, after 2018, why would he be a Democrat?
Only, you have to ask him that.
Must be family or tradition or whatever.
So there are two candidates.
The guy leading right now, it's the only, it's the only race, I think it's the only race that we have early polls in.
Senate race where we have early polls in.
And Justice is winning by a big, big margin.
So the candidates on the Republican side are Governor Jim Justice, Who is going to have the backing of the GOP party leaders.
But then there's also a candidate who has the backing of a number of Republicans.
And to some extent, one of the groups that's anti-Trump, but he himself He himself is a supporter of Trump, and that's Congressman Mooney.
Well, you have to be, right, to win a primary in West Virginia.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he won a primary against another Republican last year, another Republican House member, with the president's endorsement.
And he's already attacking justice, Jim, as being too liberal, because justice originally was a Democrat.
Who switched parties, and is also a very big supporter of Trump.
He's wealthy.
He can sell fund.
He has a high name ID.
Big Jim.
Big Jim Justice.
And on the other hand, Mooney is a very, very strong candidate, Alex Mooney.
And he has the backing of the House Freedom Caucus, but also the Club for Growth, which has become a very anti-Trump group.
The, the, the headquarters really of, of that group is in Philadelphia with Senator Toomey.
So I don't know, that could hurt.
God tells me big Jim's got this mayor.
He seems like a real guy.
Yeah, I think Jim, I think he wins this.
And I think, um, and I think it's smart for Manchin not to run and go on and do something else.
Maybe look for something in the Trump cabinet.
If I were, if I were Manchin, I wouldn't run and I'd endorse Trump.
And stay a Democrat.
I could then be a Democrat in the Trump cabinet.
There we go.
All right, Mayor.
Number two, state most likely to flip.
Number two follows on number one, very similar theory.
And that is Jon Tester, who I think has outlived his ability to fool a state.
I think that whether it's retired Navy SEAL Tim Shea, who's Who's a retired Navy SEAL and has the ability to sell fund, or State Attorney General Knutson, Austin Knutson.
Those are the two leading Republicans, neither one of whom has announced yet, I don't think.
I think the tester gets beaten.
Trump won the state by 16%.
Things have to be much better there now than they were back then.
There has to be a tremendous Biden backlash in Montana.
And Chester has just fooled them, I think, once too often.
My advice to Shahey or Knudsen would be run against Schumer.
What do I mean by that?
Run against the leadership.
Whatever Chester does, however he votes, that first vote of his is going to kill the country.
And that is to put Schumer in charge of the Senate.
You know, the single most important vote any senator or congressman casts is for the leadership.
And when you think you're, you know, you're getting sort of independent and whatever, whatever with Manchin, and he'll really be on the side of conservative policies, well, you screwed yourself.
Because by voting for Manchin, You put Schumer there.
Or by voting for a Democrat member of Congress who says, I'm a moderate, you're really putting a communist there.
So I think the Republicans have to sell that really, really hard.
Do you want Schumer as the majority leader of the United States Senate?
Do you want to turn it over You want to keep the Senate in the hands of the communists.
That's right.
And in Montana, I think that means that Chester wins.
Now, Matt Rosendale also might run.
He ran last time in 2018 against Tester and he won the Republican nomination with the
Club for Growth support.
And.
Um.
I.
I remember him.
Now he's been at Mar-a-Lago.
But he's not a full-fledged Trump supporter, at least historically he hasn't.
Well, it's interesting.
Did he do that because he got the club for growth?
He did go make up with Trump.
Okay.
He did go make up with Trump, but also timing the club for growth.
He didn't support McCarthy.
So, um, Yeah, and those sorts of things, I don't necessarily think that's a break from Trump if some of these individuals were, you know, not full-throated for Kevin McCarthy.
I think, although yes, if the President's going to come and support him, you don't want him to have egg on his face, so you want to support who President Trump's supporting, but I do think, I get why the President supported Kevin McCarthy, but I think it was fair for others who had Uh, you know, concerns or issues, uh, to break on that.
I don't think him not supporting McCarthy means you're not supporting Trump.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now he's only raised about 130,000.
So it looks like he's not running for the Senate again.
It looks like.
And as I said, she could be a self-funder and just a very clean guy.
And it is an era, I think, where not being in politics is an advantage over being a political old-timer.
And I think that also is going to hurt Manchin and Tester.
They're part of the problem, not part of the solution.
That's right.
And Manchin made himself part of the problem when he finally flipped.
That's right.
So, of course, we're doing our top 10.
One thing I would I would be doing right now is pausing the podcast and kind of putting together what I see as the 10 most likely to flip.
And then and then as you watch the mayor put out his list here, you can see how closely your list matches the mayor.
So, of course, the most likely to flip we have West Virginia.
Number two, we have Montana.
Number three, mayor.
Number three, I go with Ohio.
Ohio, because I think Ohio has become more and more a Republican state, particularly with J.D.
Vance winning by six points, which, you know, is a good number.
Trump won it by eight points both times.
And I think Sherrod Brown is left of left of left of left of left.
And I think a state like Chicago, like Ohio, is not left of left of left of left.
Uh, the real question is, can they, can, what kind of candidate can they get?
They have two very wealthy guys that seem to be the front runners at the beginning, a business man named Bernie Moreno, whom Trump has said very good things about.
And I can, I can attest to that.
I know Bernie Moreno and he is a good man and will be running a very strong race.
And then you have Senator Matt Dolan, whose family owns the Cleveland Guardians.
And, uh, They both ran in 2022, but Moreno dropped out before the primary was over.
And Dolan, who ran as a moderate conservative, who was iffy on Trump, right?
Criticized him a bit.
He lost.
He finished third.
And so I don't know.
It sounds to me like Moreno is the better choice.
Clean, new choice, out of politics.
Great story, by the way.
He does.
Successful businessman.
Coming here and building a successful business in the automotive industry.
And he's someone who's been strong on the issues.
He's very conservative.
Very anti-woke, right?
Speaks out against ENG and some of these things.
Well, I think that works in a state like Ohio.
I think I made Ohio third because I think Ohio is becoming more and more of a Republican state.
Now, the fourth one I go with is Nevada.
And I go with Nevada because I think that also is going to become more and more of a Republican state with Biden.
The problem with Nevada is not Having enough Republicans there, the problem with Nevada is the unions in Las Vegas who figure out a way, are candidates ahead, and then they win.
I'm not saying anything, but it's kind of like a Pennsylvania problem, which is why I've put Pennsylvania down the list, because after having been ahead by 800,000 votes in Pennsylvania, watching them win that election gives me great disdain for them, but also great respect for their ability to do anything, even miracles that are impossible in Pennsylvania.
Nevada, I think it's a smaller group.
I think that, um, I think that, um, It's a, it's a, it went Democrat if it did in 2020 by only two points and only went for two points for, for Hillary.
And then you look at the damage that Biden has done.
I don't think it's a part of the country where they've been able to preserve, you know, the phony image of Biden.
I think it's pretty well, I think in the West, They're not as brainwashed as the East, Northeast, and I think it's going to crack through.
And I think Jackie Rosen has been not much of a senator.
And of course, the last Senate race last cycle, that might have been the closest one between Adam Laxall and Catherine Cortez Masters.
Yeah, one point.
One point.
Less than one point.
It'd be interesting to see if Adam Laxall, who again was supportive of President Trump, it'd be interesting to see if he goes at it again.
There's no reports that he is interested, but I do feel he would be a strong candidate, don't you?
Right.
I think he would be the strongest candidate, but they have Army veteran Sam Brown.
And attorney April Becker, both of whom have lost elections close, but are, you know, good candidates.
I think Laxalt is an excellent candidate, and they have a guy, Jim Marchant, who entered the race in May, and a big Trump supporter, and also Described by the liberal press as a, you know, election.
You love that, right?
That's like a big denier.
That's what they put in Hillary Clinton.
She didn't concede.
Remember they were all afraid in 2016.
Oh, Trump's not going to concede if he loses.
Trump's not going to concede.
But that's only two in the morning.
They don't concede.
So fifth on my list is Wisconsin and people can say, Oh, we're at five.
Yeah.
Fifth on my list is Wisconsin.
Now Wisconsin, they'd say, Oh no, no, no.
Uh, we lost that judicial race.
Uh, we won every other race just about in Wisconsin.
It's a, it's a veto proof Republican majority in the house and Senate.
Uh, we lost that race because we didn't have a great candidate.
And number two, it really, really went off on the abortion, a complete confusing presentation of the abortion issue.
And still, we want everything else.
So I think if we can get a candidate who can be articulate on abortion, make it clear that this is a decision made by the states, that's all that happened.
And therefore, whatever we want in Wisconsin is what we're going to get.
And that there are much bigger issues for us to deal with, like our country's falling apart, which I think the people of Wisconsin realize, which is why we won all the other races.
That's right.
And Mayor, on that note for Wisconsin, I also think because President Trump can play so well among Republicans and Independents in a place like Wisconsin, that should help the Senate candidate as well.
Now, Tammy Baldwin has $4 million in the bank, which is a lot, but not a great deal, not a ridiculous amount for an incumbent.
Republicans are very interested in Representative Mike Gallagher, who doesn't seem like he's running.
And Representative Tom Tiffany is another one who might run, but has actually said that Gallagher would be a better candidate than him.
That's tough if they both end up getting in, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember I once said that if I wasn't running, I would support McCain, and that's what happened.
And McCain's running that on TV the next day, right?
And oh, my campaign manager went nuts when I said that.
Now the others are Eric Hovde, who lost the GOP nomination in 2012, but could raise a significant amount of money, and Scott Meyer.
And then the county sheriff, David Clark.
We all remember David, right?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Tough sheriff, tough guy out of Milwaukee.
Where, if I'm not mistaken, the convention.
Is it going to be in Milwaukee?
And of course, the liberal press says if he got it, he would seriously jeopardize the Republican chances of winning because he's also a Trump supporter.
But I think he's enormously impressive, personally.
Strong guy in a state like Wisconsin, being from Michigan.
And in a time in which Milwaukee has fallen apart because of progressive, which means regressive policing.
I don't know.
He's got a chance.
So number six on the list.
Uh, number six on the list.
I, I make Pennsylvania and my only, the reason I put it down that low is because I worry that they can do anything in Pennsylvania that they want to do.
They got Federman elected.
Uh, yeah.
If you can elect Federman, my goodness, you can, you can elect, you can elect anybody you want.
And, uh, Casey is, uh, Casey is, uh, uh, an incumbent that should be beaten.
Uh, he's been around a long time.
Um, I think Dave McCormick, uh, You know, I guess there's buyer's remorse with Dr. Oz and all that.
McCormick, I think everyone thinks that McCormick would have won, right?
I don't know what it is.
I'm going to defend Dr. Oz, but I do understand what people mean when they say McCormick.
Obviously, he would have been a great candidate.
The man's brilliant.
He's written a book since then, done a tour with it.
However, my friend Doug Mastriano, it looks like he may run and he's ahead right now by a big margin in the Republican primary.
That would be interesting.
And Mastriano lost by 15 points last time.
What an interesting Senate primary that could be.
But right now, right now, real clear politics has polled that and Mastriano is beating McCormick or anybody else by 18 points.
Wow.
And Casey is beating everyone by about six or seven points, except he beats Mastriano by 20.
And then again, with the top of the ticket, president Trump, uh, very strong candidate for Pennsylvania winning it in 16.
And then of course, 2020, you know, a lot of questions there.
Uh, but if you look at the polls, McCormick has a better chance of defeating, of defeating Casey.
He's, you know, he's within six points of Mastriano is like a 20.
Although he's dominant in the Republican primary.
Don't believe that Doug is announced yet.
I do not believe that he's announced yet.
Moving on to number seven on your list.
Well, number seven on my list is Arizona.
And the only reason it's seven on the list is it could be a three-way race.
It's going to be a three-way race.
Yeah.
I think Kristen Sinema is going to run as an independent.
And, um, and I think that's going to, I think ultimately she may take votes from the Republican rather than from the Democrat.
Um, why is that?
Well, because I don't know what she's a moderate Democrat and a moderate Republican, right?
So, um, unless the Republicans run a really, really strong candidate that could really, um, screw up the race and every poll they take right now.
The Democrat wins, and she comes in second, and Republican comes in third.
So far.
Even when you consider that a large percentage of people in Arizona, I mean, that's a state in which a large percentage of the people believe the election was stolen.
Yeah.
I mean, same thing in Pennsylvania.
Yeah, well, they're also dealing with that governor.
But then the press, the press makes it like if you bring up the issue, you're insane.
You're a terrorist or you're a terrorist or you're hate democracy.
Just like don't question it.
Just like all of the all of the Democrats in 16 who said that Trump wasn't really legitimately elected were the next day.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
The next day.
So Kristen Sinema is running against or running against her is Representative Ruben Gallego.
He's running to her left.
He outraised her in the first quarter by $3.8 million to $2.1 million.
He leads her in the early polls.
But she has $10 million to his $2.7 million.
So that puts her in a great position.
The sheriff of Pinal County is running, Mark Lamb.
Who's got a strong reputation, I believe, in the States.
Here's the real issue, right?
Here's the real elephant in the room.
And that's Carrie Lake.
Will she run?
If she runs, what happens?
Right now, if she runs, having not announced, the polls have her coming in third.
Right now.
But we know what an unbelievably strong candidate she is.
Oh, she's great.
And I think there is a feeling that maybe she won that election.
Or at least it was so close.
I mean, it's just a little too suspicious that every time it's a close election, Democrats win.
Mayor.
You know, if you count long enough, someone asked me once, when are they going to stop counting in Pennsylvania?
I said, when Biden wins.
That was funny.
But I think, I think Carrie Lake could make it a race.
If Carrie Lake ran and if she ended up in third or below, I'll eat my hat.
I love that line.
Well, I'll tell you why it could be a race for a Trump Republican.
A three-way race, she can count on the base.
She can count on the entire base.
Yes.
And the base may be enough.
It may be 40%.
I mean, Sinema is going to take whoever she had going in with her first race, plus some people that have gotten to like her within the Democrat Party, right, as she's been a senator there for so many years.
Ruben Gallego's got his own appeal, but they're competing, I feel like, for more of the same votes than a Carrie Lake or Mark Lamb.
Well, I think they'd be in a strong position to win.
I'm going to ask you about Michigan because I put that as eight.
Oh, yeah.
And I have a feeling that maybe I'd move Michigan up.
I don't know.
Why?
I'd like to, Mayor.
Over the course of doing this, we'll keep this every week and we'll keep moving it around.
I think you've put it in a good spot on your list.
I think you have because, you know, Trump won it very closely in 2016.
The incumbent was going to be Debbie Stabenow, three-term Democrat on the Agricultural Committee, right?
So being a Democrat in Michigan, the smartest thing you could do as a statewide Democrat is get on the Ag Committee because you're going to get the traditional Democrat votes in Detroit and, you know, Liberal suburbs.
And plus you're going to win over a huge, you know, Michigan's got a big agricultural community.
These are conservatives.
But if you're a Democrat senator who can bring home the bacon, so to speak, by being a member of the Ag Committee.
But that's an open seat.
So Stabenow was very popular.
Yes, yes.
Getting to the point.
Can Slotkin?
Slotkin's going to be the Democrat nominee.
They've cleared the field for her, Chuck Schumer and everybody, but she is beatable.
It'll be an uphill battle, but she's beatable in that she's not like Sabanoff.
The candidates that I see listed are State Board of Education member Nikki Snyder.
She's in.
Representative Peter Mayer.
Peter Meijer, he voted against President Trump on the impeachment vote, right?
He's a one-term congressman.
So how does he win a nomination?
His last name being Meijer, and Meijer Grocery Store is the biggest name in Michigan.
And it's got a good name ID.
It'd be tough.
He'd have to run a lane, a very anti-Trump or Trump neutral lane in a Republican primary, so if there's let's say ten candidates.
I got you.
Will there be?
Will there be?
I mean there's businessman Kevin Rehnke, is it?
He's there's a strong chance Kevin gets in and I'll full disclosure I've talked to I have a relationship with basically everybody on that list and so just full disclosure Kevin Rehnke good chance he gets in James Craig who I who I worked with the police chief in the city of Detroit who got and you know Chief Craig was very strong during the 2020 riots.
He's considering it.
I think he would be a strong candidate, right?
You need somebody in a state like Michigan with the abortion issue and some other things that have come up.
You really need someone who can shake it up like President Trump did in 2016 where you're appealing to those Reagan Democrats.
So can Craig win it?
Can Craig win the nomination?
Yes.
Can he win the election?
Yes.
Yes, he can.
Does he seem like the strongest?
If you're looking at the list right now, there's a couple of names that stand out.
If Chief Craig gets in, he has a strong chance at doing this.
He's very... He has a strong chance of dominating?
Of dominating the Republican primary?
I would think so.
I don't know Michigan as well as you do, but I would think so.
Well, the Senate race right now, these are all good people that are looking to run, but none of them have a huge name ID outside of Peter Meyer, and his name ID is only big because of the grocery store chain.
And then 9 and 10 will do quickly because we're running out of time, but Angus King in Maine.
You have that at 9.
And Elizabeth Warren at 10.
And why do you have Massachusetts even on this list, man?
Because of an outside chance that Governor Baker, former Governor Baker will run, Charlie Baker.
And I think he beats Elizabeth Warren.
I think Elizabeth Warren is unpopular in Massachusetts, except, you know, they're knee-jerk, knee-jerk Democrats, and they're going to vote for her if you don't put up a very strong candidate.
On the other hand, Baker was much more popular than her as a governor.
Now, in the last 20 years, they've had more Republican governors than Democrat governors, just about.
No, they haven't had a Senate seat in a while.
That's a good question.
I'm going to look that up.
Well, I mean, they had.
Oh, Scott.
Yeah, but only for two years.
That was that was a strange one because he won in a five way.
Scott Brown.
Yeah, but he had it for two years and he 2010.
Yeah, he won it in a tea party way in a what was it, a five or six six way special election for your election year special election.
It was quite and then he then he got trounced.
But remember how excited we were all excited?
It was the future of the party.
But I mean, I campaigned very heavily for Salucci and for Bill Weld, who dominated in the first decade of the 21st century.
So it's not an impossible Republican state if you have the right candidate.
And you know, Charlie is like electing a Democrat in a way.
But again, it fits the rule that I set.
Most important vote is the first vote.
Right?
Schumer, or hopefully somebody other than the president's speaker, but a Republican majority leader, but the majority leader.
It determines who runs all the committees.
It determines who does all the investigations.
It determines whether you can get things through or not.
If you end up with a Republican president, let's say Trump, and you have a Republican House, which I think is almost for sure, it would be terrible if you had a Democratic Senate and it blocked everything.
Now, Trump was able to do things even when he had a split, but it was harder.
You end up with a clear the boards, Republican, House, Senate, and President.
We can put this country back quickly.
Otherwise, it's going to be much longer.
And this country needs to be, it's not a question now of stopping us from being socialist, and I would say communist, certainly fascist.
It's a question of taking us back from, we're not on the brink, we've fallen.
Now somebody's got to come on and pick us up and put us back and restore our justice system, restore our economy.
So.
We, we have taken enough of your time on this one, but there's going to be a good one, Mayor.
But I do want, I do want you over the next week or so, but if you do it right now, it'd be great to go to RudyCS.com.
RudyGiulianiCS.com.
RudyGiulianiCS.com.
And I want you to tell me what you would prefer.
As a way of us staying in contact with you and getting you the information that others aren't going to give you about the campaign.
And second, I want to remind you, and it would be up on the board now, to give Kirk a call.
Kirk?
Kirk Elliott, PhD.
But no, do we have that?
We do.
It's Kirk Elliott, Is it a KirkElliott.com?
Oh, KirkElliottPhD.com slash Rudy.
And then there's a phone number as well, I think, right?
That's right.
We're putting that up.
I would, I give them a call and have a consultation.
Nothing lost doing that.
Uh, Here we're talking about this election from an economy point of view.
We got two more years to three more years of this because it's going to take two years to get a president elected and it's going to take a year to straighten things out.
I'm telling you now based on the experience of What Reagan had to do in 81, it took until about 83 or 84.
And what Trump had to do when he took over, or what I had to do when I took over in New York, didn't happen like overnight.
People think now they did, but it didn't.
So you got to make plans for this kind of screwed up economy, inflation, possible recession now, and protect yourself.
And no better people to talk to who can personalize it.
Then, uh, Kirk and, um, also our friends at MyPillow, huh?
Get some stuff at MyPillow.
Go to MyPillow.com slash Rudy.
Okay.
That's right.
Be sure to use that promo code.
MyPillow.com promo code Rudy.
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Blankets.
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You got it, boy.
You go look at that, you got something to buy, and you're helping the cause.
Thank you.
And remember, go to RudyGiulianiCS.com, hit subscription, this way you'll be in contact with us, and give us your ideas.
We want to make sure we miss nothing in this election of 2024.
It's literally To save our country.
God bless America.
And thank you very, very much for your participation, Ted.
You did a great job.
Thank you, Mayor.
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