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April 27, 2022 - Rudy Giuliani
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Patriots Still Willing to Run Despite the Radical Left and the RINO’s Trying to Stop Them | Ep 233
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Hello, welcome back.
This is Rudy Giuliani with another episode of Rudy's Common Sense.
Today we're going to talk to three candidates, first-time candidates for public office, people who were not in elective office before and chose to run now during a period of time where, most people say, Why would you want to run for public office, particularly as a Republican, particularly if you're associated in any way with Donald Trump and all three of them are Trump supporters?
Well, I think you're going to find that maybe the American people are a little hardier than you think when they feel that their rights are in jeopardy and their future at risk.
So we're going to talk to Dr. Fred Simon, who's running for governor of Nevada.
He was a former trauma surgeon, or I guess he is still a trauma surgeon, but he decided in the middle of all this to run for office.
And we're going to talk to Angela McClure, who worked with an organization that helped and did significant work with first responders, but she was not an elective official.
And because of the state of things now, she's running for the state Senate in Alabama.
And I think a lot of people say, gee, I don't know in this climate if you would recommend that your child, you know, run for office or be a police officer.
Well, I had that choice to make in a way.
And the third person we interview is Andrew Giuliani.
Who is running for, in the Republican primary, they all are running in the Republican primary by the way, he's running in the Republican primary for governor of New York and he's already been coined as the people's candidate as opposed to the establishment candidate.
And Andrew was a former professional golfer, and he worked for four years as an aide in various levels with President Donald Trump.
But he had never run for elective office and had no real thoughts of doing it, and he'll explain to you why he did it.
And I think you're going to find this interview, set of interviews, encouraging about the We got it.
We got the people.
We just got to find them and support them and make sure they defeat the Democrat Party, which is taking us right straight through socialism to full-out Marxism.
And we've got to get rid of the people in our party who somehow decide to compromise, give in, give up the agenda, or get involved in the corruption of the Democrats.
Or maybe their own, I don't know.
But in any event, we've got a little problem within and a big problem without, but we've got candidates like you're about to see.
So let's begin with Fred Simon.
We now have the pleasure of speaking to Dr. Fred Simon, who, well, I'm going to tell you all about him, but he is right now a candidate in the Republican primary for governor of Nevada or Nevada.
I'm going to ask him which is the right one.
And as he will tell you, he's a medical doctor, a very, very formidable career as a trauma surgeon.
And Full and complete career as a doctor, and he has decided to run for governor.
And like the others that we're interviewing, we're exploring the topic of why people as successful as Dr. Simon, as fulfilled as Dr. Simon, would want to enter politics now, which seems to be frightening an awful lot of other people away.
Right?
I mean, this is an era in which I know... I can't even tell you the numbers of friends or associates have called me and told me, gee, they're asking me to run, but I can't.
I'm afraid.
I'm afraid of my family.
Let's explore it with Dr. Simon.
Dr. Simon, it's very much a pleasure to have you with us, and I understand you're running a very, very good campaign.
Thank you, Mayor.
It's been a lot of fun.
To be honest with you, this has been the most fun thing I've ever done in my life.
Well, isn't that nice?
Well, then, you know, that's a good sign already.
It means you like campaigning.
I love campaigning.
I've been, you know, Nevada's the seventh largest state in the nation.
So if you go to the northeast corner, you have Elko and Wendover, which are rural communities where we have mining.
And then you go down to Las Vegas, it's a trek of about 500 miles.
It's a much, I think it's a much bigger state than most Americans realize because of the concentration on Las Vegas and Reno.
That is correct.
It's like people who think United States is New York and Los Angeles.
A lot of people think Nevada is Las Vegas and Reno.
There's a lot to it.
Beautiful state.
There is a lot to it.
And I've been to every, every county, almost all the communities three, four or five times walking door to door.
I've been to all the Republican women's groups.
It's been really a fascinating venture learning the whole state.
Every place in the state's a little different.
Every community has a different set of problems and issues, and you have to coordinate your ideas in relationship to the entire state.
Obviously, Las Vegas dominates the rhetoric.
So now, in the Republican primary, That is roughly what percentage of the population are registered Republicans?
And are they the only ones who can vote in the primary?
Well, it's about 580,000.
580,000.
Okay.
And is it a limited primary just to Republican voters?
That's correct.
Okay.
Now, the key question is, Why did you leave a beautiful, wonderful, distinguished, you're at the height of your career, acclamation, honors, to enter the dirty and getting dirtier world of politics?
Well, Mayor, I will tell you, the politics in healthcare is pretty dirty.
It's the industrial healthcare complex.
Government is more involved than ever.
Uh, they are taking over the practice of medicine.
They're dominating what physicians do, whether they say it's true or not.
I went in, uh, 2020, volunteered and worked in a COVID ICU.
And the initial periods of time I was working there, I realized that there were issues.
And then I realized that there was fraud.
Then I realized that there was corruption and then it all connected to all the people I belong to.
At the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, which is the independent group that Rand Paul belongs to.
And boy, I saw this is a time where our country is at the greatest pinnacle of evil, in my opinion.
Very interesting, doctor.
Now, the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, if I recall correctly, because Dr. Ryan and I did several podcasts on the various lack of treatment for COVID, which made us very upset and very worried.
I remember you put out some very, very good reports.
Your group did, if I recall correctly.
So, you're talking about things that disturb you at a local level of healthcare, and then at the national level as well.
National, state, and local.
I got Peter McCullough, Ryan Coles, Richard Urso, Heather Gessling, and Lee Manyan to come to Vegas.
We did a COVID summit, and that was about four or five weeks ago.
And I had been the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons National Meeting in Pittsburgh.
And it's very evident that this is bioterrorism.
It's intended to disrupt this country.
And that we as a population of physicians have been censored.
People aren't talking.
People are threatened.
And I just felt like somebody needs to get out there who's relentless.
Self-contained and really doesn't care about what the political environment is.
Go out and try and do the right thing.
Well, you know, you just described, I think, a lot of candidates this year on the Republican line because of their reaction either to the pandemic or Afghanistan or runaway inflation that may become a recession.
Crime.
Crime is an epidemic.
More people between the ages of 13 and 40-something died of overdose of drugs than of COVID.
And we don't do anything about the overdose of drugs or fentanyl coming over the border that's doing it.
Well, Mayor, this is really connecting the dots.
So we have dumbed down our education by this Marxist Industrial education process.
So our kids are dumbed down.
They can't get jobs.
We have a situation where they go out, they're involved in more crime.
The illegal is coming over.
Fentanyl, Oxycontin.
People are dying from that.
The criminality here in Nevada is out of control.
I really feel like we need to use federal gun laws.
Rico laws against the gangs. I know the gangs very well as being a trauma surgeon. And it is at a
utmost urgency with what's going on with our youth that we get involved and fix this education
and get really tough on crime. Yeah, I mean, you realize that the federal government,
since Biden has been in office, hasn't done a single thing other than to watch crime get worse
and worse and worse and worse.
When we've had these crime waves before, Washington has tried to step in and help.
In fact, he adds to it with the open border.
Well, I will tell you this.
I'm not very strong on the federal government at all.
And in fact, I think the state government has to empower the local communities.
Correct.
And our sheriffs need to have more power.
They need to get in tune with... We have, in Douglas County, where I'm from, our officers, two to three times a week, utilize the Narcan to neutralize fentanyl overdoses.
Two to three times a week.
And we are at an epidemic in this country, but this is all intended.
I believe that China There's such a hand in this that we need to get so aggressive as a political Republican Party.
And I'm not sure that they're ready for this, but I am.
And we've got to take the bull by the horns.
We've got to get aggressive on all these issues.
And if we don't do this, our population base is going to continue to deteriorate.
So would you see the fentanyl invasion as just another step that begins with COVID and CCP virus and their spreading of that.
In other words, do you look at COVID as something that they at least deliberately spread to the United States?
I don't think there's any doubt about it.
If you look at David Martin's work and his documentation, you look at from the Patent Office, there's no question.
And one of the people at the head of this is Fauci.
And Ralph Baric and Fauci did this gain-of-function research.
They made this virus attack lung tissue.
The lung tissue releases the highest amount of inflammatory reaction, which requires then the body to overreact, and that's what kills people.
The bioterrorism and the drugs are a combination with the infiltration of education to bring this country down.
And that's in coordination with the Chinese Communist government? 100%.
Which, I might add, has given the Biden family a bare minimum of $31 million over the last five years.
Yeah, and the other thing to look at, Mayor, how come all those bio labs are over in the Ukraine as well?
Yeah, it's really wonderful to have someone like you involved in government because, you know, when you speak out on these things, people can have confidence that, you know, your politicians don't know these scientific issues and you give it a great deal of credit, a great deal of credibility.
What about the other issues that you have to face as governor?
How do you feel you'll be able to handle the budget, taxes, other crimes, the general set of issues that a governor has to deal with in your state?
Well, I ran a major trauma center and, you know, I had hundreds of people underneath me.
Here's the fundamental issue.
I take accountability for what happened to every patient.
So I set the The culture, the tenure of people.
They lose their tenure with me when they don't function at a high level.
Same thing needs to go with government.
There has to be somebody who's incredibly involved and make people accountable.
But, you know, as everybody says, the buck stops here, and I'm one of those type of people.
I will be responsible and take... You know why I'm laughing?
I'm laughing because on my desk when I was mayor, the first day I walked in, I put a sign that said, I'm responsible.
And I kept it there for eight years.
And I really do believe whatever success we had came about because I never took my eye off.
It was never anybody else's fault but mine.
And I had to fix it.
And if we didn't fix it the first time, we had to go back and do it again.
Well, Mayor, honestly, I think if you look back at the last couple of decades and beyond, You are by far one of the more successful executives.
And that's what you were in New York City.
You were the executive leader in the city and you reformed everything with your finger on the pulse.
And I learned something from you.
And when I was in running my trauma center, I took some of the tenets and principles I followed from you.
I'm an East Coaster, grew up in Massachusetts.
And you know, fundamentally, we're a little bit of a different breed from the East Coast.
And what I learned from you is you keep your eye on the ball all the time, you keep involved, and when things don't work, you adjust and you will find the right alternatives and get successful.
But it requires a lot of work.
You know, with the success that Donald Trump had coming out of business, becoming president, let's forget the controversies and whatever, I think you'd have to be the most prejudiced of people not to admit that he accomplished a great deal, particularly compared to where we are now.
My goodness, you know, peace in the Middle East, no issues with North Korea, no issues with Russia, no issues with China.
Russia didn't invade Ukraine under him.
They waited for Biden.
They did it under Bush.
They did it under Obama and they did it under Biden.
I got to tell you something.
But this idea of people coming out of executive success in other areas, I think since government is failing so much, it's exactly what we need.
Well, you know, even the education process is an executive leadership.
My wife and I have been in it 20 years.
She was on a school board for eight years, president three years, 25 years as a principal.
You know, you have to come in and reform education in this country.
We're 50th out of 50.
We're the worst state in the nation.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
You can't get any worse than that.
But, you know, it's not about money.
It's about organization.
It's about buy-in.
It's about working with the teachers.
It's about reforming things at the failure level of the kids.
Get kids and you've got to do remedial training.
You've got to find teachers that need help and you need to reorganize that.
And it's a very important part.
It's the foundation of America.
Now tell me the, tell me the politics of it.
How does it, how does that stand right now?
Well, the politics of it is, it's very interesting.
Uh, you know, arrogant and, uh, egotistical people make mistakes.
So they took all the money out of the counties.
And so the governor really handles the pocketbook for education right now.
So if I came in as governor, I have the pocketbook.
I'll work with the unions.
But we need to get the ideology out of the classroom.
We need to teach arithmetic.
Arithmetic with an answer?
Like two and two equals four.
That's right.
But if you say five, it's wrong.
You got it.
Let's ask the Let's ask the kids what they want to do.
Not every kid, but you know, you got to find out what they're best at.
And you don't plug them in holes.
A lot of kids don't need to go to college.
Where are the trades?
We need trades to come back in the middle schools, get the ideology out, get the kids interested, ask them, what did they want to be?
What did they want to do?
And then we need a mentorship program with business on the outside.
With these high school students to keep them really engaged.
Well, Doctor, it sounds like a very, very impressive program.
If people want to support you, both in Nevada and outside, because we all have an interest in the kind of government you're talking about working.
Because if it works one place, it catches fire.
So how do they get in touch with you?
How do they contribute to you?
How do they support you?
Well, I'm at simon4govnv.com.
S-I-M-O-N 4-G-O-V-N-V-D-O-T-C-O-M.
And just being on your program, it's immensely important to me to meet you, one of my mentors.
Well, you're very, very kind.
You're very kind, and I'm going to be watching this very carefully.
Well, you sound like just the kind of candidate we need right now all over the country.
We've got some of them, probably not as many as we need, but we've got some really good people.
Sounds like you're right in that wheelhouse.
Doctor, thank you very, very much, and I'm praying for you.
Okay, and I'm praying for you too, sir.
God bless.
God bless you.
Well, now we're going to interview another candidate who decided to run for office.
Even though she had never done it before, had a separate career, and picked a time when people would say to you, I wonder why you're running for office?
Oh my gosh, politics is so difficult, it's so hard.
So, this is Angela McClure.
Angela, tell us exactly what you're running for and where, so everybody knows that first.
I'm running for State House in Madison County, District 20, which is North Alabama in the Huntsville, Alabama area.
We're mostly a military.
We have NASA here.
We're mostly a military community.
And your background.
Before this, were you involved in politics or interested in politics?
You had not run before.
I had not.
I grew up in a family of attorneys in Montgomery, but I became interested in service actually at a young age.
I served With Governor Bob James at the age of 14 as a legislative page, but never really thought about getting into politics until I served with Donald Trump on his advance team with the Office of the President with the White House.
I was on the remote staff and I think in this age that we are in with the Democrats controlling things right now, a lot of Good Republicans have decided to stand up and run for office in order to get things back to the way they were, to help with getting things back to the way they were.
In your district in Alabama, what's the biggest driving force that affects people?
What are they upset about in the transition from Trump to Biden?
Well, I believe right now it's definitely the economy and it's come on fast.
We are definitely probably about to go into a recession.
The gas situation here is dire.
Concerned or or I was disappointed rather that the governor did not suspend the gas tax at least for a little while to have some relief for everyday people.
I know as a single mom it took $25 to fill my tank up now it's 55.
That's a lot of money in somebody's you know income that wasn't prepared to spend that kind of money And what are the politics of your particular district?
You have to run in a Republican primary first?
Yes, sir.
We are primarily Republican here.
We do run into, we have to run into, run in a Republican primary to begin with.
We do not have a Democrat running in this race.
It's for Republicans.
But there is an opponent in my race that has decided that he is not for school choice,
that he took $10,000 from AEA, which is primarily an association that is for Common Core.
And that's not what the Republican platform is about.
It's very concerning.
He is running as a Republican.
He also published an op-ed where he said Donald Trump was a joke to run for president, and he wanted to move to Canada.
This was six years ago, but he's always been a Republican, so this is very concerning that my opponent has taken this platform, and the voters definitely need to be aware of it.
So he's a, uh, what we call now a rhino, right?
Exactly.
So he, he was against Trump six years ago.
Did he, did he ultimately support Trump at some point?
Uh, I believe he is saying now that he voted for him both times.
And, uh, but he's for, he's against school choice and wants the public schools to remain, uh, under the control of the unions and without any choice for parents.
Is that right?
Correct.
He was on Dale Jackson's show this morning saying those exact words, that he believes that school choice would destroy our school system.
And exactly opposite.
School choice is going to give underprivileged children an equal playing field.
Parents have the right to be able to choose where their children go to school.
Do you also have the issues there of infiltration of education with things similar to gender education at a very early age and some version of critical race theory?
We do not have those issues as much as Probably other states, but as a parent of a child in sixth grade, I can tell you that those beliefs are seeping into our school system.
I want us to get back to real textbooks where parents can actually see what Um, our children are being taught.
Everything's on the laptop now.
We can use laptops as well, but the real textbooks so that we can actually help our children, um, in school is very important.
We are 47th overall in the country in education, which is so concerning.
I mean, we have the greatest minds in the country in Huntsville, Alabama.
There's no reason why we should be 47th in education.
And we're 52nd in math.
Common core math needs to be completely dissolved.
We have put an $8 billion bill or passed an $8 billion bill this session.
And we can't just throw money at the education system.
There need to be specific programs, after school programs, mandatory after school programs, even for children that are failing.
We need to step in and help these children get better grades.
Now, Common Core Math.
Could you briefly tell us what that is, as opposed to the math that I learned, you know, 500 years ago?
I'm not an education expert, but I can tell you as a parent that has to help My child with common core math.
I mean, my daughter wants to be an architect.
She's always made A's and B's.
She's made C's this year in math and just, and it's very concerning.
I go to help her with her math homework and we have to go online to figure out how to teach the common core math.
I don't even think the teachers really know how to teach the common core math, which is concerning.
And they really just give them a packet.
And tell them to go do their homework.
So Alabama needs to rebuild our education system, I believe, from the ground up with experts that really know how to get education going.
Teachers need to be accountable, too, for what they're doing in the classroom.
It's practically impossible to let a teacher go nowadays.
You know, they need to be accountable for what they're saying to our children in the classrooms.
Now, you're entering politics at a time in which many people
shy away from politics because they've seen the last four or five years,
particularly the situation with the Democrats and Trump.
And it's been brutal.
I mean, to the point of coming pretty close to wanting to kill you, to try to kill him, at least kill him politically, emotionally, families, people being harassed in restaurants.
And what made you overcome that?
In order to enter this world, which you know, if you get involved in anything controversial, they're going to rip you apart.
And I will be honest, it's scary.
There are definite worries about going into politics.
I sat my girls down and I said, you know, this could get difficult.
But they were like, Mom, we're behind you.
We feel like you can do this.
We support you.
And as long as I had the supports of my two girls, that's all that mattered to me.
My heart is in service.
I've always been involved in some sort of service of my country, of my community, even if I can make the world a better place just a little bit.
That is all that matters to me.
I'd love to make the world a bigger place in a big way, but even if it's just a small way, that's all that matters to me.
And what's your main goal?
What are your main objectives should you reach the state legislature?
Well, my main goal are to get common sense legislation passed.
We have a lot of bills that are before the house right now that just aren't common sense.
I think a lot of our voters here in Alabama are frustrated with our legislature.
And I have a common sense mentality.
I have a law degree.
I also know how the law works, which I think is important when you're going to the legislature to write laws.
So I have the tools, I believe, and the know-how to get common sense legislation passed.
Education is definitely first on my list.
I'd like to help remodel DHR.
I would also like to help pass bills that will protect Alabama in this recession that we're about to go through.
I do believe that our economy is so strong here in Alabama because we are a state that invites businesses into our state.
Toyota just came to our state that it enables us to be able to have sort of a bubble here that will get us through this recession.
And what's the state of your race?
You say there's one candidate who appears to be a Republican, but really his heart seems to be more Democrat than Republican.
Are there other candidates as well?
There are two other candidates in the race.
I feel as though I'm better qualified.
There's four of us total.
Um, I feel as though I'm better qualified than the, than, than all the candidates in the race.
I just, um, don't really know where James Brown really, uh, where his political stance is.
He doesn't really post or vocalize where his political views lie.
Um, and, uh, then Frances Taylor is also in the race.
Um, she's a, she's a friend of mine.
She's a good person.
But I just feel as though I'm a better qualified candidate.
And why?
Why is that?
What in your background would distinguish you from her?
Well, I feel as though her background, especially her educational background, is not as suited for a position in the legislature.
I believe she has a degree in women's studies.
She was president of a Republican women's club, which I'm a member of, which was great.
And she's a good friend of mine, but I just don't feel as though her resume is as qualified as mine.
Well, it's been a pleasure.
When is the race?
We've got to watch it.
It's May 24th.
Election integrity in Alabama is another issue that really... Even in a Republican primary?
Yes, I believe that from what I've heard, people are very concerned.
They feel as though their vote's not going to count.
And so we are really trying to make people understand that Alabama has the best election integrity in the country.
We are 100% secure.
Your vote will count.
We need your vote, so please, please get out and vote on May 24th.
It is very, very important.
Huntsville, Alabama is the largest city in our state.
This district is very important to the state of Alabama, and we We desperately need all the Republicans to get out and vote on May 24th.
Well, we'll be watching it very, very carefully, Angie.
You certainly seem to be a very, very good candidate and very admirable that you're running at a time in which it takes courage to run.
Well, God bless you and thank your children for allowing you to do it.
Thank you very much, Mr. Giuliani.
I really appreciate you having me on your show.
God bless you.
Thank you very much.
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Well, now I have a very special honor in introducing this candidate, because I kind of know this candidate pretty well.
And he did have to make a choice to leave what essentially was suddenly non-elected political life, and even before that, private life, at a time when politics doesn't look too good.
It looked really challenging and really difficult.
Obviously, you're my son and I know you really well.
From the time you got out of college, unlike a lot of situations today with kids getting out, you've been self-sufficient.
You supported yourself.
You set up, in essence, your own business.
You were a professional golfer.
You made your living from that.
And then you decided to go work for President Trump.
You spent four years Maybe during the four years where, if you were in the White House, they would salary you on politics every single day your administration was under investigation.
The president was being charged with new things after new things that had to create tremendous stress.
And now all of a sudden you decide you want to run for office.
Yeah.
So how, before we get into anything else, and Andrew is running for governor of New York for the Republican nomination.
How did you make the decision to run for public office when everybody's saying, oh my God, people are not gonna run for public office?
Yeah, so I remember actually when it first started coming to me.
I mean, you remember well, after President Trump left the White House, I went down with my wife and you joined us a little bit in Florida, help him get set up in his new life, but also to take a little time with my wife.
Obviously, four years in the White House, you certainly don't get too many vacations and when you do, you have to cancel them.
So I remember after a couple of days feeling the optimism, this incredible hope that I felt in Florida.
You'd go out to a restaurant, no masks, it was freedom, felt very patriotic and American.
And it dawned on me that that's the exact same thing I used to feel in New York when there was another Giuliani who was elected mayor.
And then even after that, I mean those policies that continued on until some guy named de Blasio ruined it all.
And actually, when I first realized what it was, I was a little depressed because I wondered whether New York's best days were behind it.
And that's when the idea hatched.
And I'll never forget sitting in this room with you over here and coming over and saying, Dad, I think we have a path to victory.
Um, and you, uh, and you went through and you gave me two hours of the most intense questioning I've ever had.
And right at the beginning of the third hour, I'll never forget.
You said, holy, you know what you're ready.
And ever since then, we have been building this thing and we've been building a lead.
And I really think that was back in February, March.
That was back in February, March of last year.
I announced officially in May of last year while you were working for Newsmax.
I was, I was for two months working at Newsmax.
I'm shocked they had me, because everybody always tells me I have a face for radio.
But it was wonderful, and obviously they're a great part of the conservative movement, just like so many great podcasts are, like Common Sense.
But you knew, going into it, first of all, being in our family, and then being sort of in the Trump family, you couldn't have had More intense opposition and anger and hatred and ridiculous things charged that you know are not true.
Why did you want that for yourself?
And for your wife and now Grace.
Well, I think it takes, obviously, a partner that is supportive and that is willing to sacrifice.
And thankfully, in Zeville, I have somebody who's willing to do that.
But really, I think throughout my life, whether it was working for President Trump or being on campaigns when I was 3, 7, 11 years old, or watching you from City Hall, I saw the best and the worst of politics.
You know, from the worst, you see obviously these personal attacks.
And it never really bothers me when it's about me, it bothers you when it's about your family, as you've said so many times.
But the best, and this is what I always go back to, when we look at New York City in 1991, the rotten apple.
What you were able to do for New York City.
There's nobody since Peter Stuyvesant that has done more.
No, it's true.
For New York City.
I think President Trump had that same approach with our country and is certainly the greatest president of my lifetime.
When you have the right leader with the right team at the right time, there's nothing better that you could do with your lives than serve in public office.
The only president I could think had as big an impact, or possibly more, possibly the same, as him was the one I worked for.
So if I look back on the presidents from the time I was born, of course I couldn't count Roosevelt, Truman through Biden, they would be the two most, by far, impactful presidents.
You might not agree with their changes.
I do.
Right.
You might not agree with their changes, but wow, they really changed the government.
Yeah.
So that's the way you approach That's the way you approach what you are to this government.
Absolutely.
And I think it was so exciting every day to go into work for President Trump.
It didn't mean every day was a great day, right?
I think some of the days actually that probably were the toughest days in the White House wasn't when, you know, the Washington Post or the New York Times was attacking you.
It was when you found out you were betrayed by a Republican because you expected it from the Democratic side.
And we saw that a lot, certainly in the first half of the administration.
And then at the very end, everything that you did to uncover, obviously, the fraud that we saw in the 2020 election, there are a lot of Republicans that were and are still resisting the truth coming out, as we're seeing now.
So to me, that's the toughest thing.
It feels like Brutus is stabbing you in the back there.
Judas is probably more appropriate for this time of year, but that's what it feels like.
No, it does.
It's a problem that the Republican Party has to overcome if it wants to fulfill its promises to the people.
So for example, in 2010, there was a massive Republican victory.
And it seems to me that Speaker Ryan blocked most of what we promised the people.
Yeah, I think that's accurate.
Left a bitterness, so the Democrats were able to win again.
Yeah.
And right now, specifically for our race, I think we have a little bit of that power struggle going on in New York State.
For those of your viewers... So tell us now about your race.
Right.
Deciding to run for governor instead of mayor.
Well, look, I always promised you, and I always promised myself, that I would see a path to victory in my first race that I ran.
I thought about running for mayor last year, and Curtis ran an incredible race.
I think he set up, really, the... Curtis Sliwa.
Curtis Sliwa, who's the head of the Guardian Angels.
Correct.
I think everybody, if they think about it, will remember him.
They wear the red berets.
They work in almost every American city.
Right.
Become very important again now.
Right.
Crime wave going on.
Exactly.
They've always been important.
They're most important when we have these tremendous crime waves.
Curtis ran an incredible race and he was the Republican to get more votes than any other Republican who's still a Republican since you.
So to me, I look at it this way.
I wanted to see a path to victory and I could see very early on as I explored this, the path to victory on November 8th and how we save our state.
But specifically what's going on, I think, with the Republican Party versus the voters, Republican voters of New York.
Very early on, the Republican Party wanted to coalesce around one candidate, a guy named Lee Zeldin.
A guy who, by the way, in nine independent polls that he's not paid for or I've paid for, we've been beating in all nine independent polls.
The chairman of the state GOP made it very clear he did not want Donald Trump mentioned at all during any primary, and that's why it needed to be wrapped up even 18 months before election day.
I said, look, I have the exact opposite philosophy.
I think, honestly, any successful governor of New York will look at the successes that Donald Trump did in the country, that Rudy Giuliani was able to do in New York, that George Pataki was able to do as governor of the state of New York.
Uh, and not be afraid to mention, not be afraid to actually figure out how we're going to develop our own playbook for the state.
Similar to that, the Trump was able to do for the USA.
Uh, the great news is we got word today from the board of elections that we will be on the ballot.
Uh, they are playing some dirty tactics to try to get us off the ballots.
Um, but I think it's very important for voters to know.
That I am the candidate who wanted to make sure that the 2.9 million registered Republicans had a voice on June 28th, and Lee is the candidate who wanted them to all shut up.
Well, you know, this is not unusual to New York.
So, as you know, over the weekend, I went to the Republican convention in Michigan, and there was very, very strong battle.
Over trying to keep Matt DiPerno out because they considered him too tied to Trump.
Yeah.
And he won, but it was tough.
And then this anti, this, I don't know, rhino movement, anti, now, and the other gentleman that will appear on this podcast who's running in Nevada has the same problem.
Yeah.
A Republican candidate who really opposed Trump now is pretending that he's for him, but is now against school choice.
Yeah.
Sounds like he's owned by the teachers.
I think if we don't get this straightened out, we're not going to accomplish anything because we're too darn divided.
Right.
Yeah.
And look, I want to be clear.
I don't just mention Trump so you can say Trump a hundred times.
I mention it because he was a great president and somebody that we want to model our administration after.
From a regulatory reform agenda, from a crime and safety agenda, right?
You can equate what he was able to do on the border to what we want to do actually with our police here in New York by repealing bail reform.
But ignoring him is not the answer.
You know, I find it funny that you think about a state like New York, We haven't won a statewide election since 2002.
Think about a state like Michigan.
It's been at least eight years since they've won a statewide election.
This is all pre-Donald Trump, and the political consultants in the political class say, hey, wait a second, we can't mention Donald Trump.
Well, the only person that had success in New York and certainly in Michigan when he won in 2016, and I certainly believe won again in 2020, Was a guy named Trump at the top of the ticket.
So it makes no sense to me.
And I think unfortunately there are ulterior motives involved in these decisions that these consultants and even the Michigan and New York GOP are making.
Well, I mean, it's really in many, many places, I'm not gonna say nationwide, but almost Nationwide.
There's almost a race going on between the political class and the citizen politicians who are coming forward to run.
So one of the people I'm interviewing in this podcast, Angela McClure, I asked her that question.
I said, was it difficult for you to run because of all the turmoil and all that?
She said, no, actually, I think more Republicans like us are running now.
Because we're so upset with what we see.
It overcomes our fear.
We're so upset with what we see the Democrats doing.
And we're so upset, even more with members of our own party, who either are complete traitors or they go back and forth.
Yeah.
That we feel we have to run.
You know, I think about a couple of the groups that have endorsed me recently, like Unmask New York School Children Now, like Save Our Schools.
A lot of those mothers, actually, as of a couple years ago, were Independents and Democrats.
But I have to tell you, they are some of the most fervent believers now in the conservative movement, simply because they see that actually we are the one with liberal ideas, not leftist ideas, right?
I think the Democratic Party... Libertarian ideas.
Libertarian, but also, I would say this, I would say the liberal idea of allowing you to make the choice of whether or not, that is a liberal idea, right?
The idea, the freedom to be able to choose whether or not you get the shot or not.
Whether or not your kid wears the mask or not, that should be every parent's choice.
That shouldn't be from the state.
That would be what I would call a freedom idea.
I think what the left is doing right now is illiberal, is not liberal.
And because of that, we've seen more independents, more Democrats come over to what you'd consider to be the conservative movement.
But I think more than anything, it's the movement of freedom.
Yeah, I think that's absolutely right.
And I think the pandemic and all of the dictates and mandates and It's exactly right.
I mean, to me, this is very simple.
I mean, New York has been a dictatorship for the last three, four years.
Under Cuomo first and then Hogle.
They don't pass laws, they govern by dictate.
All this question with mandates, it's about governors dictate, not laws.
It's exactly right.
I mean, to me, this is very simple.
If you wanna get the vaccine, if you wanna get the shot, that should be every single individual's choice
and individual's right.
You shouldn't have a gun to your head saying, get the vaccine or you're not gonna have a job.
And unfortunately in New York and in other states, we've seen that be the philosophy of democratic governors.
Uh, and you have a state assembly and a state Senate in New York that has, that does not want to stand up.
So for me, I've made the campaign promise to all New Yorkers that on day one, whatever unconstitutional mandates exist, I will eliminate and I will hire back whatever workers have lost their job with back pay.
Yes, absolutely.
1,300.
When you think the people, those people have to be also highly principled.
Yeah.
Because whether you agree with them or not, they've got a lot of courage.
Absolutely.
To stand up to their principles.
It means they're probably very, very good workers.
Very dedicated, very dedicated workers.
Now, there's a guy named Andrew Cuomo who casts a big shadow over this place.
After all, if things had worked out, he'd be there.
Whether he, like his father, I think his father ran for a fourth term, but like his father, ran for a third term.
And then, of course, along the way, certain things happened.
A lot of elderly people died in nursing homes in New York and several other Democrat states, no place else, because of the caving in to the people who gave them money, the people who run the nursing homes.
Like in New Jersey.
Like in Michigan, a couple of other places.
And then of course he had the awkward sexual behavior.
I don't know quite how to describe it.
There were all kinds of different things.
And then he had writing the book.
Writing the book, $5.1 million using state resources, getting while you're governor.
Apparently it was written by a staff.
Yeah.
While he could go around being a hero and certain decisions being made and held up because he didn't want to affect the book.
So he's out in a scandal.
We get a new governor, she's I'm liberal in the old fashioned sense, left wing.
She loves mandates.
She loves having masks on people.
She's taken the budget to $220 billion.
Amazing.
So how does that change?
How does that change?
And isn't one of your opponents someone who was very favorable to Cuomo at some point, but trying to forget it now?
Yeah, well, first and foremost, Lee Zeldin thought Andrew Cuomo would be a good president.
I think he needs to explain that mindset, and I think, honestly, that disqualifies him to be governor of the state of New York.
If you thought Andrew Cuomo would be a good president, you shouldn't be governor, and you certainly shouldn't be running in the Republican primary.
I wonder if he thought about running as a Democrat.
Maybe that's one thing he was considering.
But looking at it in terms of how Hochul relates to Cuomo, I think you're right.
Hochul moved further left than Cuomo ever did.
Not because Cuomo was doing it because he's an altruist.
He did it because he's a narcissist and wanted to keep power.
But more than anything, let's take a look at this, right?
I've always been saying that Hochul is more liberal, Cuomo is more corrupt.
But, I don't know, the last couple of weeks in looking at the Buffalo Bill Stadium deal, where her husband is the number two lobbyist in that deal, and where he'll be profiting off of the concessions, which will triple, within a couple of years, that money, on top of the fact that her first major appointment, her lieutenant governor, Brian Benjamin, was arrested for campaign finance fraud.
This woman is disqualified to be governor of the state of New York.
I look forward to giving her her pink slip come November 8th.
The warnings about Cuomo came when his chief aide went to prison.
Yes, Prococo.
I don't know if that's before or after Zeldin pronounced that he'd be a good president, but the reality is that these are very, very dangerous signs in a political party that has this problem generally.
You look at all the money that Pelosi makes for the husband, This is going on in Albany quite a bit, and I think it goes on in our side, too.
Yeah, it does, and I think, unfortunately, what you have is the media looking the other way on it, right?
I always thought about this when I was working in the White House.
I would never, ever use any government resource to even, let's say, print an article that was a personal article that I wanted to read, because I knew if I, let's say, printed five pages that cost the taxpayers two cents, maybe in ink and pages, That the Washington Post would scrutinize that a hundred times more than an $83,000 a month business deal that Hunter Biden made from Burisma or a $1.5 billion investment that he made from China.
I always proudly said I was honored to take five figures a year serving my country while Hunter Biden was taking eight figures a year serving China.
Yeah, yeah.
I think there's an importance now that people run for public office that have very, very high ethics because we've got to restore it.
Otherwise, people have no respect for our government.
All you read about now are things like the Hochels.
She's building a stadium.
She's building a stadium for her hometown.
That's an issue in and of itself.
She moved it out of downtown to the suburbs, but Cuomo actually had a better idea of doing it in downtown as urban development.
She's going to put in $800 million.
Now we find out it's going to cost $4 billion because she had to pay off a lot of people to go for the stadium in order to get the votes because they were saying, oh my God, Buffalo.
Now her husband's going to make who knows how much.
Look, the Buffalo Bills are an integral part of Buffalo in the state of New York.
And as a Giant fan, I always get teased and reminded they're the only team that actually plays in the state of New York, as the Jets and Giants play in New Jersey.
But look, you cannot negotiate, and it sounds like she negotiated with fear in this, that they were potentially going to leave.
But what's even worse than that, the fact that you would not recuse your husband from actually making money off of this.
This is an obvious conflict.
If you're the one that's rubber stamping this deal that you're negotiating and
you're personally profiting from this, you're absolutely right.
This is the same kind of thing that we've seen with Pelosi, that we've seen with
the Biden crime family, and that we've seen with some Republicans on our side
too, which as I said before is maybe as if not more alarming.
This is why the statement that Cuomo would make a great president is a very
dangerous statement because everybody in Albany knew that Cuomo was paid for
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Right.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
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Welcome back to my interview with Andrew Giuliani.
So, Andrew, there are so many issues, and the country is in such bad shape, and many of them are common from one state to another.
But what is Can you boil it down to the single most important or the two most important that you think will decide this election?
You know, I said this yesterday, and obviously any great campaign has one, maybe two issues.
It's very difficult right now to figure it out, because once I say what I think is the most important, I say the next and the next, and I think that's as important.
But I think first and foremost, this is about making sure that New York is safe.
I've said, and it really is true, the next successful mayor of the city of New York, or governor of the city of New York, will utilize a playbook that's already been developed.
It happens to be called the Giuliani Playbook.
We have seen crime double across New York State.
Not just in New York City, but also in Rochester, where they had the most murders ever in recorded history.
In Binghamton, as we were there this weekend, doing a rally in Endicott.
We've seen crime skyrocket.
Same thing in Buffalo.
The truth is, we need to make sure that we get rid of bail reform on day one, and that's a meeting that I have with the Speaker of the Assembly and the State Senate, and say, this is my number one priority.
Until you do this, I'm not going to fund whatever your top priorities are in the budget.
That's how important it is to New York.
But also, right, these mandates, as I mentioned before.
That's as important as an issue.
When you look at educational choice in schools, having a tax voucher program, and more charter schools, that's as important if you're a parent.
Voter identification, as we saw, so important to make sure that we have integrity in our elections.
And also, not being the highest taxed state or competing with California to be the highest taxed state in the country.
New York has led this last year, the country, in out-migration.
And it's for all of these reasons.
If we're able to fix these, New York again, I'll take a word out of our former boss, New York will be great again.
Again, again.
Bail reform, basically simplified, means people get arrested and they get put out on the street immediately.
For almost every property crime, except the worst.
So, property crimes have gone up 70, 80, 100 percent.
Auto theft, 120 percent.
You virtually can't have a car on the street.
And then we have these terrible violent episodes where old people are hit in the head and people are thrown on the subway tracks.
Subway crime is up 80 percent.
We elected a new mayor on a law and order platform, but he's a Democrat.
And what's happened?
He's caved into the Democratic Party and crime is up even more under him.
I think 60% this year.
And I fear that some of the Republican candidates who tend to go with the flow dealmakers will not have the stick-to-itiveness to really get these things done.
Yeah.
So, I mean, do you realize that I do.
I think I do.
Certainly I saw it with you as mayor.
I saw it certainly with President Trump working as somebody who staffed him for four years.
First as an associate director and then as a special assistant to President Trump.
But to me, here are a couple action items.
I always like to, instead of talking in large platitudes, I like to give voters exactly what we would do on day one.
It's independent of the assembly.
First and foremost, as you know well as mayor, the governor actually has more board seats for the MTA, for our subways, for our Long Island Railroad, our Metro North.
Obviously, so many people know the New York subways, whether you've ever traveled on them or see them in the movies.
People think the mayor Exactly.
We've seen crime triple on the subways over the last couple of years.
I would make sure we pour the resources and the law enforcement officers into our subway starting on day one to make sure it is as safe and as clean of a ride and experience as possible.
Because if you do that, Dad, you know this.
You will put the pressure on the mayor to make sure he is keeping the streets as safe as you're keeping the underground.
And then I think you're going to have a mayor that's going to want to work with you with an election who's going to be coming up before yours.
What I also would do on day one, and I think this is very important, I would fire Alvin Bragg, the district attorney in Manhattan, who has violated his oath of office by saying he does not want to prosecute resisting arrest or armed robbery.
And any of the other 62 district attorneys in New York who violate their oath of office?
Well, I'll give you an example.
I think this is correct.
I'm not certain.
We'd have to check this.
Because under depository, they didn't do it.
They don't prosecute fair beating anymore.
Yeah.
In other words, you can just jump over the turnstile or go under the turnstile.
Don't have to pay.
Nobody gets arrested.
Right.
When I took over, they actually arrested you for it and let you go.
Right.
You get your ticket.
And we change it into you get arrested.
You get booked, you get fingerprinted, you get put in the system, and you spend a little time in jail.
And it cut it down a lot, and it caught us a lot of very serious criminals who do the stupid thing of fair jumping.
And then you catch them for it.
And it stopped the mass serial murder that, you know, some other time I'll go into.
Now, you will, as governor, enforce that law, let's say.
But then you'll go before a district attorney who decides that isn't the law.
The state of New York has made not paying your fare a crime.
He's not going to prosecute anyone who doesn't pay the fare.
So how is it that Hochul hasn't removed him from violating his oath of office?
He does take an oath to uphold the laws of the state of New York.
He's not upholding the laws of the state of New York.
Opposing the laws of Alvin Bradley.
Yeah.
And Article 2 of the New York State Constitution gives the governor the power to remove any of the six two-district attorneys, or the mayor of New York for that matter.
To me, this is very simple.
He has completely violated his oath of office.
He has reclassified entire categories of crime.
And he's perverted the justice system.
And because of it, it's one of the main reasons why we've seen crime go up 60% on his watch over this year.
So to me, I think this is very clear in what we have to do.
Look, I mentioned it before, not just because you're my father, but because you are the greatest change agent in the history of this city.
And whenever I've seen it, this is probably more as a son, but certainly now as a candidate who is developing my policies as well, whenever they would say, well, Rudy Giuliani is racist because of this or that, I always knew that was bull because I know who you are and I know that You really care about the content of somebody's character, not the color of their skin.
But when you look at the numbers and you really break it down, and you see that there were over 2,200 murders a year in the 1990s, early 1990s, and we got down below 300 murders a year.
And you look at that, the consistent thing, whether there were over 2,000 murders a year or under 300 murders a year, was 70% of the victims were African American and Hispanic American.
There's nobody, there's no New Yorker, There's no American, probably, that has saved more black and Hispanic lives than Rudy Giuliani.
And you should be celebrated.
And I think, honestly, most of that community, most of those communities, do celebrate you.
I think it's a couple of loud loonies on the left that probably want to yell for profit.
What I really would wish is that the politicians would emulate it.
Yeah.
That's true.
Basically kowtowing to Black Lives Matter that wants to kill cops.
This agenda of put criminals out on the street, because I don't know why you put criminals out on the street.
The people who have been hurt by this.
are black people more than hispanic people hispanic people more than white people that's just the way it happens so that if you increase murder seven out of ten people murdered maybe eight out of ten are going to be black it's true in new york it's true in chicago And I see some signs in Mayor Adams.
For example, he made a very eloquent set of remarks about Black Lives Matter, and said what I think we all think, which is they don't really give a damn about black lives, unless they're the singular life they can exploit.
When a child gets shot in Harlem, they're nowhere.
They never show up.
Look, I know deep down Mayor Adams knows it'd be good for his administration to sit down with you.
I think unfortunately there are too many on the left that he's pressured by that he doesn't do it.
He did!
He did!
I think he knows it deep down and I think unfortunately he's just playing politics.
I wish he wouldn't play politics.
I wish he would concern himself with the welfare of the 8.5 million New York City residents and do that.
Unfortunately, That's what Cuomo did.
And I don't want to equate Adams to Cuomo.
He's still, you know, he's only a hundred and something days into his administration here.
But I will say this.
You need to make sure that you put the welfare of New Yorkers, their safety, their security ahead of politics.
That's what you did time and time again.
There are many examples of that.
That's what Trump did, to be perfectly honest.
And we need to make sure that we have more people that run for political office to do that.
So we're going to go back to something that you intimately know and I intimately know, one half of it and the other half of it.
And it gets back to this whole situation of all the people who died in the nursing homes.
At a very early stage in the pandemic, when President Trump was the first one to close down China, he was accused by Biden of being a xenophobe.
Basically, I don't think everybody knew then that Biden was essentially bought by China.
But he attacked Trump.
Trump was like being enormous, and you were in the White House working very, very hard then.
You were basically fulfilling you, meaning the Trump administration, fulfilling every request that was being made all over the country, particularly giving a lot of emphasis to New Yorkers, the numbers in New York are high.
And Andrew Cuomo gave a very, very good talk about the great cooperation, and so did Newsom.
And then the president gave them, talk about the shift.
Well, yeah, first off to what you said in terms of closing down China, I'll never forget the day.
It was January 28th of 2020.
And the two heroes in this that saved hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of American lives were Donald Trump and Peter Navarro.
Peter Navarro came in, argued against Dr. Fauci about closing the border down from China and making sure that we did not bring anybody in and save lives because of that.
And then fast forward and you go into the point where, what was specifically affecting New York, all of those six seniors that were contracting COVID.
Andrew Cuomo, when Donald Trump sent up the USS Comfort from Virginia, I'll never forget that day also, that was late March.
I was in the Oval Office with him.
I didn't go to Virginia, but I remember when he went down there.
He sent up the USS Comfort.
Andrew Cuomo never used the USS Comfort.
He never used the Jacob Javits Center either.
What he did was he sent those sick seniors in with those healthy seniors for two reasons.
One, because the lobbyists who own those nursing homes, the lobbyists and the owners of the nursing homes were big donors to him.
But two, because the Democratic Party was pressuring him not to give Donald Trump a political win by sending all of those sick seniors to a place where they could get some care and not infect all of those healthy seniors.
Andrew Cuomo probably cost the lives of over 9,000 of those 15,000 seniors because he wanted to play politics, not because he cared what was most important for New Yorkers.
That ship, and the reason I say both of us are involved in this, I think I was one of the first people to go greet it when it came in.
Yeah.
Because I have a great deal of love for that ship because it was used on September 11th.
And I know, of course there's a different crew now, but I got to know the crew of that ship very, very well back in 2001.
And they have 1,000 beds.
We probably used at any one time 200, 220, usually for the families, because we had a family center right there.
And they took such good care of them.
And I knew it was as good as our hospitals.
Right.
Remember, the mayor runs the hospital system.
Yeah.
I'm very familiar with the hospitals.
And I thought, isn't this wonderful?
And up until then they were still saying nice things.
And they were working together.
And I thought, oh my goodness, we're going to have a time like right after September 11th.
I went back a week later and A Thousand Beds was still in there.
And Cuomo was now changing his whole tune.
And then I went back again and they were there for two months, I think, a month and a half.
Not a single bed, I think, maybe a couple of beds used.
A thousand beds!
You could have put 500 of those people in there.
You could have put a thousand.
And I also happened to know this whole not having enough beds was a complete lie.
There were plenty of beds that we closed down.
There are places that used to be mental hospitals that have thousands of beds to easily get it cleaned up.
So, but the nursing homes would have lost money.
Well, Andrew, you know, the real key to who should be governor of this state or any other is the one who rids himself of this corruption garbage.
And, you know, I'm not going to use this ship because my financial donors are going to get hurt if I do it, even though it's going to hurt people.
Or the party wants me to do it.
Let's give them an example that they can hang their hat on, just a small one.
But weren't the people who spoke at the Republican convention told by the boss of the Republican
party not to mention Donald Trump?
Well, specifically, Lee Zeldin was told not to mention Donald Trump.
He, like a dutiful servant of the boss of the party, say, I won't mention him.
He absolutely did.
And look, I started my speech very simply in this, right?
That we as the Republican Party, because this is so important for us to remember, especially in New York.
We're the party of Lincoln.
We're the party of Teddy Roosevelt.
We're the party of Ronald Reagan.
We're the party of George Pataki.
We're the party of Donald J. Trump.
And we're certainly the party of Rudy Giuliani.
And any great leader will look at those six leaders in particular, amongst others, but those, and the courage that they had.
Um, not somebody who's going to run away from that.
Uh, I think it's very simple.
I think New Yorkers, whether they agree with me, whether they disagree with me, they know they're going to get somebody who is a genuine person who's going to fight every single day for them.
And this is probably growing up in the Giuliani household, but corruption is not possible for us.
It is honestly something that nauseates us.
Um, look, I would rather be poor and make sure I can live with myself and look in the mirror.
and make sure we're doing what's right, then have all the money in the world and know that I sold somebody out.
Well, that's a great statement to end with, and good luck in the primary.
It's coming up on... It's coming up on June 28th, so anybody who wants to volunteer first, we're looking for volunteers, you want to donate, buy a hat, go to ny4giuliani.com.
I normally spell it out, but you could see it spelled out back there, ny4giuliani, spelled out, dot com.
Well, it was a very, very interesting interview.
It's the first time I've really interviewed you in depth.
We've done a couple of short ones and it was very, very interesting.
Look, I, uh, honestly, uh, one of the most fun parts about this has been getting the opportunity to travel the state with you and has been continually learning from you.
Uh, you are, as I said before, uh, the greatest change agent in our city's history.
If you weren't my son and I listened to all the candidates, you know, Two of the other candidates I've supported in the past and donated to, and I have different differing levels of feeling about them.
But if I were just a Republican, former mayor, but you weren't my son, the other guy I would select based on the It looks to me like he's the guy who's got the guts to do it.
And is not going to back down.
And I guess, more than most, I know what's necessary.
I think it's so important to make sure that the 2.9 million registered Republicans get to see as many debates as possible.
This shouldn't be a backroom deal.
Lee is the product of a backroom deal.
Right now, we are the product of the 2.9 million registered Republicans.
And to that point, guys, my opponents, let's have some debates.
I know we have one on the books for New York City come June 7th, but let's do one in Buffalo.
Let's get one in Rochester.
Let's do one in Syracuse, the North's country, the Southern tier.
We should make this as clear as possible to New Yorkers.
If you believe your ideas are right, this shouldn't be just one or two party leaders making the decision in Albany.
This should be every single Republican in the state of New York who makes their decision.
Yeah, and that leaves me in a position then Not to owe it to any one individual.
Exactly.
And ultimately, when the general election takes place, to 19 million people.
And that's exactly the point.
We are running to make sure that New Yorkers know that they will be my boss, not the other way around.
And I think too many people that run for political office forget that.
Well, if I weren't your father, you'd still be my candidate because I think you're the one who can get it done.
And basically, I'm going around the country Opposing the Rhino candidates, so that would also fit in as well.
But most importantly, I believe you're the guy to get it done.
Good luck.
Thank you.
Good feeling out of listening to these three people, because it does say that, sure, people can be frightened about running for office, and I can tell you firsthand, it's not easy anymore.
It's much worse than it used to be, and a lot of the enjoyment's been taken out of it.
But it's become more necessary.
And I think Angela was the one to say that she thinks maybe more people are coming forward now because they see the challenge, particularly people that view the world the way we do and feel that there are so many things that have to be done to get us back to constitutional government and that we're on an express train to Marxism and we may have arrived at the station.
And we just got to turn it around and turn it up and go on and really progress.
Like we were doing before the disaster occurred.
So, of course, this year we'll be paying a lot of attention to that.
And because it really, the next two elections are pivotal as far as whether we're going to be able to keep our country, keep the form of government that we've enjoyed for so long and protect our way of life.
This is not anything to trifle with, but I'm glad we've got three people like this and many, many more.
So thank you very much, and we'll be back with an episode of Rudy's Common Sense in a day or two.
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