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April 15, 2022 - Rudy Giuliani
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White Hatred is Domestic Terrorism | Rudy Giuliani | Guest: Howard Safir | April 15th 2022 | Ep 230
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Hello, this is Rudy Giuliani, and I'm back with another episode of Rudy's Common Sense.
And today's episode, I'm sure you have already figured out, is going to be about the horrific attack on the subway of the other day, which You know, it was horrific and was terrible, but also when things happen in New York, they take on a larger-than-life atmosphere, and for good reason, because this is really the center of the world, and it affects things all throughout the country and all throughout the world.
So we have with us someone who's an expert on that, who understood New York backwards and forwards, from the point of view of first having grown up in New York, and then second, having been in law enforcement all his life.
And then being police commissioner during a very, very difficult period when, believe it or not, there was more crime than today and there were terrorism incidents and just about everything you can think of.
So I thought it would be very, very useful to get his observations on where we are because he's had success.
in doing what the city is trying to do now, so far without success.
And it's Howard Safer, who was, before being Police Commissioner, he was Assistant Director of the Marshal Service.
Early in his career, he was a Drug Enforcement Agent, a Bureau of Narcotics Agent, a full life in law enforcement, and of course, a United States Marine, which you are for your entire life.
And I would say my view of Howard is that his years with me in the police department were exceptional.
He took some of the changes that were made.
He made them better, stronger.
And he also institutionalized them.
So many of the things that we have now come from Howard Safer.
So it's a great honor to have him with us.
And we couldn't have a better observation of what's going on now than Howard.
Howard, thank you for being with us.
Good to be with you, Rudy.
So Howard, let me just begin with when you heard about this, and whenever you hear of a terrible crime in New York, I'm sure immediately you go back to your days as police commissioner, right?
Yep.
So what did you, what was your first impression of this attack on, was it, first of all, was it, was it a surprise to you?
And how did you, how did you, how did you view it?
It wasn't a surprise, uh, because you know, Crime is going off the charts in New York.
What surprised me was how the technology, first thing, which delayed the arrest, was how the technology did not work.
How the cameras in the MTA didn't work.
And you may not recall, Rudy, but we tried very hard to get the MTA to Institute of Technology.
They hired an integrator, who they ended up suing.
There's a lawsuit still going on, I believe.
And so it didn't surprise me that the cameras didn't work.
The other part was, you know, I, I was very gratified that his gun jammed because otherwise there would have been a lot more people injured.
And I'm very glad he was obviously not a great shot.
Uh, to me, you know, I, you've heard me say this before the shootings, a homicide with bad aim.
Right.
You know, I was gratified by that, but the fact that he was able to get away so quickly.
And then actually turned himself in the next day was really concerning to me.
But it's the whole atmosphere that we're seeing in New York now.
We're seeing an atmosphere where police defunding groups, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, Nobel, a district attorney who is very soft on crime, and an attitude that We've had for the last eight years worrying about criminals instead of victims.
And, you know, the NYPD is the best police department in the world.
But when you're constantly attacking them, you're looking to defund them, and they're only a third of the criminal justice system.
If they don't see prosecutions getting made, and they don't see people they arrest getting put in jail, they're not going to be as assertive as they could be.
He clearly has developed a massive hatred for white people and wanted to kill them.
Yeah, absolutely.
This is somebody who is predictable.
If you look at his social media stuff, it says this is what he's going to do.
And unfortunately, the FBI interviewed him a couple of times and didn't really interpret it that way.
He has nine arrests, six in New York, three in New Jersey.
The guy is a criminal and somebody should have been taking a look at him.
The fact is we live in an atmosphere now where people feel they can just go out and act out, use weapons, attack people because there's not going to be great consequences.
The one gratifying thing that I see out of all of this is he's going to be prosecuted in federal court.
So the probability is he's going to stay in jail and he's going to go to jail.
Unlike what would happen if he was being prosecuted by the district attorney in Manhattan, who probably would have got him out on bail.
Doesn't this remind you of, oh gosh, when we were in office, the federal day programs, when we would have to take cases at the request of Mayor Koch, actually.
We'd have to take cases on the Lower East Side because if they went to federal court, state court, they'd be out in a half hour, whereas if we took them into the federal system, they would go to jail for a few years.
And it actually, it actually worked on the Lower East Side.
It didn't help the rest of the city, but it worked on the Lower East Side.
Well, it did.
And of course, you know, what we did when we were there, Rudy, we sent the message that no matter what crime you committed, if you were a violent offender, you were going to Rikers and then you were going to jail.
And then if you were carrying a gun on the street, the probability is we were going to find you with our street crime unit and we were going to put you in jail.
There's none of that going on now.
Everybody's carrying guns.
You know, my heart breaks seeing innocent people, a woman in Brooklyn, a teenager, collateral damage, which nobody seems to be paying attention to.
And assertive policing is what needs to be done.
We can do it constitutionally.
We can stop question and frisk according to the law, but it's not being done now.
And without that, The whole thing that you and I subscribe to the broken windows theory just isn't in play.
It's more or less you respond to crimes in progress and that's what I call a failure.
Right.
You basically show up after the crime is over and write the report.
As opposed to the motivated police officer who gets there in the middle of the crime, stops it, but that's where you take a big risk.
And you have to know that the police commissioner, the mayor, the city in general is going to support you.
Well, you know, I think what's happening, they're going back to counting the wrong things.
You know, I have always said it counts what you count.
And we counted success in not arrests, but in crime.
So if crime was going down in the precinct, You're doing a great job.
Didn't matter if you're making a thousand arrests as long as crime was going down.
If crime was going up, you had to explain what you were going to do to fix it.
And if you couldn't fix it, we got somebody who could.
I don't see any of that accountability taking place now.
So Howard, how would you and I have reacted if in the first couple of months of the year, subway crime was up 68%?
Subway felonious assaults were up 27%?
And subway arrests were up 53%.
Subway murders were also up 22%.
How would we have reacted?
First thing we would have done is we would have got the chief of transit in and said, what the heck is going on?
Right.
And then we would have taken the resources that we need and we would have flooded the subway with both plainclothes and uniformed cops.
And we would have had him not only standing on platforms, but riding those trains.
If there was a cop in that train, a lot of people would not have been injured.
Now, if you notice the footage that exists of the scene with the people running out in panic, that was about a three or four minute, five minute sequence.
No police officer in sight.
That seems strange to me because that was a pretty heavily used police station.
It's not one of those isolated subway stations.
There should have been immediately four or five cops there if there were a proper number of police officers to handle the subways.
Well, that's the problem.
There's just not enough cops in the subways.
There's not enough plainclothes officers riding on those trains.
The fact is that nobody responded except You know, I think people don't remember that de Blasio defunded the police department a year and a half ago by a billion dollars.
there just wasn't a police presence. And that's what is necessary to both prevent and to respond
to these kinds of issues. You know, I think people don't remember that de Blasio defunded
the police department a year and a half ago by a billion dollars. And as far as I can tell
in the whole cool budget, I don't, there's very little refunding.
So I think the police are a billion dollars down.
And they were down pretty much from where we were anyway, right?
I mean, the numbers of police officers are down considerably.
Almost 10,000.
If you remember, we had over 41,000 uniformed officers.
And one of the things that I brag about all the time to people is that I had a mayor who never refused the request for resources.
Cause you understood what it took to not only have a safe city, but to bring the economy back by having a safe and clean city.
I remember, and I tell this story all the time.
You called me over just before your second election and you said, you've done a great job reducing crime, but we need to do more.
And I knew you were going to ask that question.
I said, well, we need another class, 1500 more cops.
It took you about 30 seconds to say, go ahead and do it.
And we reduced crime another 10% that year.
And, you know, during my tenure, we reduced crime 40%.
You know, Howard, it's a combination, though, of that and knowing how to use them.
I mean, if you put 100,000 cops into a terrible system, they're not going to do anything.
So it was a combination of having the right number of cops and a comp stat system that we really used.
We didn't play around with it.
It determined what we were going to do, not politics.
That was accountability.
You know, when you appointed me police commissioner, I was friends with James Q. Wilson, one of the authors of Broken Windows.
And I said to him, is it the number of cops or strategies?
He said, it's absolutely both.
You need the right strategies, but you got to have the resources to do it.
And that's one of the things that you provided, which was why we were so successful.
And the subway situation that happened the other day, I asked you that question on purpose.
Was it a surprise?
It wasn't a surprise to me.
I was waiting for it to happen, oh, for about a year now, when I first saw a couple of people thrown on the tracks.
I actually was waiting for it to happen, and you'll appreciate this, Howard, because I think you'll remember this case.
One of the first things de Blasio did when he came into office is do away with the James Q. Wilson broken windows theory, as if it was some dumb theory of a bunch of stupid cops.
I always wondered if we had told him it was a Harvard law professor, or a Harvard professor, if we would have felt differently about it.
I don't think so, but you know, if you recall, The world came to see us because we were being so successful.
At every CompStat meeting I went to, we had an Italian police chief, a German police chief, a Spanish police chief, all looking to copy what we did.
And they did copy, and they were successful.
But you know, the wheel turned with all of this leftist liberalism, and it really has hurt the public.
And more importantly, we both know the victims of crimes are people in underserved communities, people of color.
And they are the ones who suffer the most when policing is not done right.
Well, when he did away with broken windows theory, immediately he did away with arresting and fingerprinting people who were fair-beating.
So basically, you could go on the subway for nothing.
Yeah, well, I don't know if you recall, but I'm sure you do, but when I became police commissioner, there were 250,000 people a month Jumping over turnstiles.
It was like an Olympic sport.
That's why I'm asking the question.
And we stopped it.
And not only did we stop it in safety, MTA, tremendous amount of money, but we found murders.
We found the rapists.
We found drug dealers.
We solved, you probably recall, the Central Park attacks and the cleaners attacks.
And we got that guy jumping over a subway turnstile.
I remember that one as if it were yesterday, because he left his fingerprints behind.
I think it was his ... This guy was on his way to being a 10, 12-time serial killer.
And on the third one, he left his fingerprints.
Yeah, a bloody fingerprint on the cleaner's door.
And we never would have had his fingerprints had you not arrested him about three months earlier for not paying a toll, when in the prior administration, they never took their fingerprints.
And right now, they're not taking their fingerprints.
And that was the most dramatic example of thousands of cases like that, where you got subway crime down to, I wouldn't say nothing, but pretty close to nothing.
Yeah, people went back to riding the subway and they felt safe.
If you listen to people being interviewed today, they're saying they're not going to ride the subway anymore.
And they're scared to death, not just of what happened the other day, But of being pushed off platforms, which is happening with regularity.
Well, left-wing commentators in the city are now saying either fix the crime on the subway right now or close them.
Close them!
Because people won't go on the subway.
They are frightened.
And as you know, subway crime psychologically affects people more.
Sometimes, I mean like, if this thing had happened somewhere else, it would be bad and terrible.
But when it happens in a subway where you have that feeling of being closed in, psychologically it's magnified.
There's no place to run.
Right.
So, right now we're dealing with a bail law I don't know if it's involved in this, because I'm not sure this guy was out on bail or not.
We don't have enough of his record, but we have a... Go ahead.
I don't think he was, but clearly we've seen people who've committed murders walk right out the door in the city, and that's probably what would have happened here.
And this situation is...
Producing maybe 8, 9, 10,000 more criminals than you ordinarily would have.
When you combine that with the early release, Rikers Island only has 4,000 people in it?
It's built for 21,000?
Well, I think we had 15 when I was commissioner.
15,000.
Yeah, so those people that should be in Rikers Island are the people that are committing the crimes.
It's really that simple.
Right.
And they don't go to their job.
Their job is committing crimes.
So they're right back out on the street, causing the havoc that we're seeing in the city, which is why so many people are fleeing the city, and why people just don't feel safe.
So this is a bit of a controversial question, so you don't have to answer it if you don't want to.
But the Biden administration has made it clear that the number one threat to this country, both foreign and domestic, is white supremacy.
Number one domestic threat, number one international threat.
Why wouldn't this be categorized as a white hatred crime?
Well, it should be.
As a terrorist white hatred crime.
We have a president who has condemned police shootings without even knowing what they were about.
Yes, he's accused the police officers of being systemically racist, which means, systemically means almost everybody.
If I say there's systemic theft, or one time they used to say before the Knapp Commission, there was systemic corruption in the police department.
It meant there was pervasive corruption.
So what he's basically saying is that almost all of us are racist, but particularly police officers.
So why wouldn't that create the kind of hatred in a weak mind like this guy?
Yeah, no, absolutely.
People listen to the signals of their leaders.
And if the leader of the United States is saying police are corrupt and brutal and racist, people believe, not everybody of course, but a lot of people believe it.
And that is such the wrong message, which is why am I looking forward to the midterms.
But Howard, don't you feel, I'm sure you do, because you gave so much of your life to this, Don't you feel really sad that all that we did, it's getting reversed like this?
Breaks my heart.
Yeah, exactly the term I use.
I hope they believe that.
That really is, it breaks my heart after, you know, and it wasn't just us.
It was all the cops you lost.
How many cops did you lose doing this?
11.
You know the exact number, don't you?
Yeah.
I know the exact number and I remember every year.
Of course you do.
And I remember being at the funerals with you.
And the funerals that we attended, but you know, it's, People don't understand.
Nobody joins the police force to make money.
Nobody becomes a cop because they just want a job.
If they do, it's the hardest job in the world.
People have a calling.
People become police because they want to make a difference.
And when they see the president of the United States telling them that they're bad and they're brutal and they're racist, it's going to have them pull back and not do the kind of job that they want to do.
And of course, look what we're seeing.
Yeah, what's what's happened in New York City and in the country breaks my heart because we worked so hard to change it and to make New York City the safest large city in America.
And the rest of the country followed.
But what's happening now is we have the highest number of police department retirements because cops don't want to be cops anymore.
We can't recruit qualified people.
And as a result of that, a lot of police departments, which also I have great concern about, are reducing Their requirements for people to become police officers, and that's going to in the next few years not turn out well.
So we need to change this whole dialogue.
We need to show people that police not only are good, but they're there to protect them and to help them.
And that's what most police officers do.
Well, you know, Howard, one of the things that you contribute among so many other things, first of all, he reduced crime even more than he inherited, because there was a real question when you came in, had crime been reduced as much as possible?
And Howard, Maybe because he's a Marine and competitive, but also because he's brilliant, reduced crime even more, which was remarkable.
Absolutely remarkable.
But what you also did was you institutionalized a lot of the changes that have been made, like Comstat.
And you did something that I wonder if it hadn't been done, if these politicians wouldn't walk away from the responsibility for this.
You published Comstat.
And I always saw that as, even if we can't get successors who are as strong about crime as we are, they at least can be exposed.
And that is happening.
I mean, every week they put out, like right here, I was just giving you the subway statistics.
30 years ago, nobody would have known what they were.
Nobody would have known that subway crime is up 68% and Adams is claiming to be a law and order mayor.
Nobody would have known that he's a law and order mayor, but overall crime is up 40%, which means he replaced de Blasio, who everyone thought was the worst mayor in the history of the city.
He was.
Agreed.
But now Adams has the burden of, he has more crime than de Blasio.
There's more crime by a lot in the city than de Blasio.
So what the heck are you going to do about it?
So at least there's the pressure there to do something about it.
You know, you were very kind in describing my tenure.
But you know, the fact is, Rudy, that people follow the signals of their leaders.
I followed yours, and the police officers followed mine.
And one thing I knew, and they knew, that we always had their back.
You and I went through some very traumatic incidents during my tenure.
And we had different responses.
Before you go, like the response to Louima.
You called me up.
I was at my son's baseball game.
You asked me to meet you at Gracie Mansion because it was a terrible situation.
And by the time we left Gracie Mansion, you had a plan.
For how to catch the people who did it.
None of this blue wall of silence or all the garbage they talk about.
Then when we had, we got him convicted and put in jail for 25 years.
Yes, we did.
And there was no doubt in my mind that we were going to do that.
On the other hand, the Diallo incident, which was a tragedy, you and I could have thrown those four cops to the wolves, but we didn't.
And we took a terrible situation, but we made sure that we protected our people.
We protected our people.
We got a tremendous number of protests, but nothing like the protests that de Blasio and no damage to property.
You even got a request for a, what would I call it?
A courtesy arrest by Jesse Jackson.
His attorney called me and said, Reverend Jackson is coming to get arrested at the protest.
I said, well, if he commits a crime, we'll arrest him.
He says, yeah, but he got a seven o'clock flight.
And I calmly said to him, we don't do courtesy arrests.
He spent the night in jail.
Well, the end result of that situation where we were asked to basically destroy these, they were all acquitted.
Yes, because they made mistakes, but they were mistakes in good faith.
They didn't go out to hurt anybody.
And it was a situation that was just unfortunate.
Everything that could have gone wrong went wrong, but it was not intentional and it was tragic.
And you know, To this day, I feel for the Diallo family, but the fact is they did what they were supposed to do, and the situation and the environment caused what happened.
But those two situations alone said to the rank and file of the police department, if we take a risk and it's a mistake, they'll have our back.
Well, you may not know this, Rudy, and I'm not proud of this, but I'm proud of it in a way.
I terminated more cops for wrongdoing than any police commissioner in history.
Well, I know you did, and you started the Courtesy, Professionalism, and Respect program.
I see it on the side of a police car still.
Still there.
I'm very proud of it.
And you got the numbers down as far as civilian complaints and everything else.
And based on Bratton, you, and Carrick, you kept stop, question, and frisk numbers so well that when we were challenged by Janet Reno and Holder, and the Eastern District wanted to come after us, it was Holder who found that we had complied with the civil rights laws.
Can you imagine Holder finding that?
Because our 100 were very, very well documented because you had trained them well.
So there's a lot to be proud of.
And I really hope they'd overcome the political... Well, I hope they would ask either me, I may be a little toxic, but some of you guys for assistance in how to do this.
I mean, it's like, this has been done already.
And we can see what they're doing wrong, and it could be corrected.
And they don't ask for help.
Nobody wishes crime to be reduced in New York than you or I. They could have all the credit.
It's fine.
At my age, it's all I want to do is help.
In two weeks of sitting there, Howard, you could correct half a dozen things that would make a big difference.
You know that.
Absolutely.
Well, Howard, I have to thank you very, very much.
Number one, for your service to our country, the federal government, fire commissioner.
We haven't talked about that.
We will some point.
What a great fire commissioner you are.
What a great police commissioner you are.
And the service you're performing now and what you're doing.
These are important things for people to have perspective on.
Howard is a very, very close friend, as you can tell.
But he's also someone I have great, great admiration for.
Thank you, Howard.
And my love to your wonderful family.
Thank you, Rudy, and thanks for having me.
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I didn't want to interrupt the interview with Howard Saver to play these, but there's a very, very important point to be made here, and that is that with all this talk of white supremacy and how white supremacy is the number one threat to national security in the United States, This is a very, very dangerous lie being perpetrated by Biden, by the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Attorney General, and all of the other Bidenista liars.
But it's more than just a benign lie.
It's the reason why the focus is taken off other things.
So, this man gave adequate warning that he was desperate to kill white people.
And at no time did anyone pull out any of those and say, this man's dangerous.
This man's dangerous.
When Biden officials have been presented with the notion that black nationalists should be described as domestic terrorist groups, they've rejected that notion.
Although they take these white groups and make them national terrorist groups.
And if we look at the balance of murder between the two, it's astronomically different.
To play racial politics with murder is to get people murdered.
And that's what they do.
This man who committed these crimes was without doubt an adherent of black nationalism, Black Lives Matter, Antifa.
He was clearly part of a black dominated, hate white group.
That is intent on destroying the white community, as well as murdering the white community.
That's a terrorist group!
The actions in 2020 of Black Lives Matter and Antifa were terrorist actions!
But because both of those groups are sponsored by George Soros, the biggest sponsor of the Democratic Party, not only are they never mentioned as terrorist acts, The Biden people and the Harris people participate in getting them out on bail rather than denominating them as terrorist groups.
Had they been denominated as terrorist groups, we would have found this man before he did it because they would have been on a list to look for.
Do you have any idea of how provocative his statements were that he made?
Do you have any idea how provocative his statements were that were made that were ignored?
So let's give you the evidence, as we always do, rather than just a group of political statements, the way the Pelosi's and the Stalwell's and the Swillwell's and the Criminalwell's and whatever else they are do.
And the Biden people who somehow you can't understand what they're saying because they really don't speak English.
So let's listen to the texts, which by the way, have now been taken down.
I believe these are YouTube texts.
Here's Frank James.
Listen carefully.
Because you see at the bottom, at the very bottom there, that's Ralph Mara.
And he's the one that first attacked me.
And I say, when I say he attacked me, he attacked me.
He hated me and he wanted me to die and suffer because he's a real man and I'm not.
This piece of this junkie turd, this white man's trained stinking dog.
So that's, I mean, that's sort of a beginning of his hatred of white people.
This guy apparently did something wrong to him and he's a white stinking dog.
Which might give you some sense of his views toward the white community.
Here's another one of Frank James.
Nobody's making up this institutional hatred of white people and his affinity for Black Lives
Matter, Antifa, Black nationalism, and the fact that he adopts the views that they teach.
You want to make up some f***ing story about some Jesus and the Bible said dumb a**?
They don't see it that way.
They hate your f***ing guts.
That's a little hard to understand, I guess because of the, um, of the edits in it.
Uh, but basically he's, uh, we'll do it again.
Basically he said... You want to make up some f***ing story about some Jesus and the Bible said dumb s***?
They don't see it that way.
They hate your f***ing guts.
He's talking about white people, you know, and the phrases in the Bible tell you to love, but they don't see it that way because they hate the effing guts of black people.
That's the viewpoint that he has, which has to tell you this was a hate crime, a racial crime.
And it was a racial crime that comes out of the vast movement in certain parts of the black community to teach people to
hate white people. When I say vast, I don't mean majority, but I mean Black Lives Matter, Antifa,
black nationalism, the 1619 program, the critical race theory, the thing that unites
all of them is that America is systemically racist, which is something that
could lead to hatred for people, that America is all about slavery, that America is
completely immoral, and that America is worth overthrowing.
Yeah.
And apparently, you know, to some of these people, what that means is that white people are worth killing.
Right?
So let's listen to one more.
Now here's an interesting comment which gives you a sense that he's probably influenced by the fictitious, horrible, racist, ignorant book by Hannah Jones of the Of the times about 1619 and America was founded as a slave colony and America is immoral and America is affected by slavery forever and ever and ever and it will never leave and you know leaving out the fact that slavery existed for thousands of years before America leaving out the fact that hundreds of thousands of white men died to free the slaves but you know her her falsities and her vicious
And why do they hate your guts?
comments really that are intended to get black people to hate white people obviously work.
I mean, they obviously work because Frank James here makes it clear that he actually believes that
the whites had to be forced to make blacks equal. And why do they hate your guts? Because they know
that your rightful place is as a slave in this country.
They know that.
You're the only one that doesn't realize that.
And now you want to be equal to them by force.
They didn't choose to elect.
They didn't elect to make you an equal.
You had to force them to make you an equal.
And now they're just getting more angry and more angry.
Their anger is building up and nothing can happen here differently than what happened over Now, I don't know where in American history blacks forced whites to make them free.
Abraham Lincoln, in the middle or toward the end of the Civil War, decided that it would be the proper thing to do, both from a moral point of view and tactical point of view, was to free the slaves.
No one forced him to do that.
In fact, there was a lot of opposition to doing it.
And now we go full circle from what the aim of the civil rights movement was, the aim of Brown versus the Board of Education, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and the hatred with which now these radical black groups, with which they hold white people, that leads to murder, which is what makes them terrorist groups.
And our government shows its inherent racism, which is an anti-white racism, by refusing to do that and instead pretending that the biggest threat to America is white supremacy.
And I tell American nigger this, I keep telling you the same thing.
White people and black people, as we call ourselves, should not have any contact with each other.
You still refuse to understand this.
White people and black people should have no contact with each other, which would lead to a permanent situation of hatred, anger, warfare, revolution, undermining.
And a complete rejection of the notion that we're children of the same God, and therefore should be able to find a way to get along with each other.
And he had an interesting comment to make and we'll finish with that one.
We'll finish that one right now.
And what you saw with the financial crisis of 2008 that went back to 2000, they created a, the same thing, a mechanism by which they can loop the whole system and not be held accountable.
Who was your president back in 2008?
Right, Barack Obama, our first black president, who couldn't do sh** about those looters.
But he's black, and this is a great opportunity for black people, and, you know, black children can now dream and hope to be president one day.
President of what?
President of what?
So apparently the election of Barack Obama, the fact that a majority of Americans or plurality of Americans selected a black man meant nothing to him as a refutation of the calumny that, you know, Americans are systemically racist, which was fed to him by Joseph Biden and almost, I wouldn't say almost all, but most black politicians.
So, as much as you would say that white supremacists are affected by what white politicians say, it's quite obvious that this man is a total creature of what black politicians have been saying.
And if you're going to spend $50 million investigating President Trump and others for inciting what happened at the Capitol when what President Trump said was to go there peacefully and patriotically, I don't see how you don't investigate these groups Who encourage violence against white people?
Every single Black Lives Matter protest has.
Fry them like bacon, right?
Hmm?
Who are they talking about, fry them like bacon?
Police officers!
And has it led to record shootings of police officers?
Yes!
And is it a basis for his hatred of... Yes!
And are the notions of 1619, the false historical notions of 1619, embedded in this man's head that led to violence?
And are people dead as a result of Black Lives Matter and Antifa activities?
The answer is yes!
So why is it that one group, the white supremacist group, is listed as the biggest domestic danger that we have, and the other group isn't even listed as a terrorist group?
Because we're governing this country by racism.
It's a racist country for sure, but it's a racist country on the part of the Biden administration turned against white people.
They're the people in danger of being unfairly prosecuted, unfairly accused of being racist.
You want a fair and open playing field, then these groups that help to incite this violence These groups have to be listed in the same way as the white supremacist groups.
And then maybe we have to go back and look at the murders that took place last year in America, which were the largest number of murders ever.
And we have to ask how many of those were committed by white supremacists.
I haven't had a chance to look, but I don't know of any.
But I will go take a look and see and test out the notion that the biggest danger to America are white supremacists.
Because somebody's got to test out that notion because their failure to list these groups that were behind this attack, that motivated this attack, that motivated this man to do this attack.
Well, they're not listed at all.
They're given a free pass.
Without all that rhetoric of the last three, four years, this wouldn't have taken place.
And this is the result of an unfair, biased, corrupt government.
We have got to change that.
We've got to change that, and we've got to be able to stand up to this and not be afraid of being called racist if we say, why is it that the man's race wasn't given out when this first happened?
Isn't that relevant to identifying him?
Why is it that the coverage declined immediately on some of the stations when it turned out that it was a black man who was responsible for this?
And wouldn't the coverage have been significantly more intense had it been a white man?
It shouldn't be that way.
It should be the same for both.
Because people have to be able to adequately assess in reality the threat to them, not based on some kind of political fiction.
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