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April 9, 2021 - Rudy Giuliani
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MANUFACTURED CONTROVERSY Around Georgia's Election Reform Law, Why? | Rudy Giuliani | Ep. 127
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Hello, this is Rudy Giuliani, and welcome to Rudy's Common Sense.
Today's episode is going to be devoted to the Georgia election reform law that is creating so much absolutely unnecessary manufactured controversy.
This is a debate that shouldn't be, doesn't have to happen, and if people would just exercise common sense, we'd resolve this quickly.
As in most things nowadays in politics, it isn't really what it seems to be.
There's not a dispute over this law, which is not very different than the laws in most other states and most other democracies.
It's really subterfuge by Biden and the Democrats to racially divide us, create anger, and to bring about the end of the filibuster and the passage of H.R.
1, which would truly, completely change Our form of election.
In fact, it would alter in many ways our form of government.
So let's take a look at this and try to put it in context.
Let's exercise some common sense and apply it to this, and we can see what's being done to us.
Because if we understand what's being done to us, we can protect ourselves against it.
The controversy over the Georgia election law is, as I said, completely created.
The new reform law in Georgia is more expansive than laws in a number of states and maybe more restrictive than other states.
But it's well within the mainstream of election laws in the 49 other states and all of the countries with which we would compare ourselves, the Western democracies.
It's already resulted in moving the All-Star Game from Georgia, which somehow has really offended the Commissioner of Baseball because of their terribly restrictive election law and their failure to grant access to people.
Well, he's moved it from Georgia to Colorado.
But he probably checked the laws of Colorado about as thoroughly as he checked the laws of Georgia.
Because he's going to have to move from Colorado.
Colorado actually grants fewer days of early voting than Georgia, and therefore puts more burdens on the right to vote and reduces access by that many days.
So if he's offended by Georgia, he should be outraged by Colorado, and he should immediately move his headquarters from New York.
New York has far fewer days of early voting than Georgia does.
And it is considerably more restrictive with regard to absentee ballots, where it requires
specific justifications for getting an absentee ballot.
It doesn't provide a no-excuse absentee ballot like Georgia does.
So if these things truly interfere with the right to vote, New York is interfering with the right to vote much more than Georgia.
And Colorado is interfering with the right to vote even more than Georgia.
Oh, and by the way, just for the heck of it, so is Delaware.
So you can see what a totally manufactured, phony argument this is.
And Biden has inflamed this beyond any logical dimension by lying.
Don't rely on me.
Rely on the sycophant Washington Post, which gave him four Pinocchios for one of his statements, and he probably could have given him about a thousand for the others.
Biden has inflamed it by saying that, first, he says, the law requires that the polls be closed at five o'clock, and therefore working people can't get there in time to vote.
Then second, he says, horrible, terrible, people are going to die on the voting lines because you can't give them water.
And finally, he says, this law is like Jim Crow laws on steroids.
Well, let's look at each one of these.
They're all untrue.
The 5 p.m.
one is the one that got the four Pinocchios from the Washington Post, as I say, the sycophantic Washington Post.
They're sort of like Biden's Democratic Party internal organ, no longer a newspaper, a rag.
Well, the reg actually finds him lying because, in fact, that's just a definition of the usual standardized business day.
You're allowed to expand it from 7 a.m.
to 7 p.m., and not only that, it only applies to early voting.
It doesn't apply to election day.
Election day, they stay open for the normal time, and no working people are affected by this at all.
Joe, well, I got a grant to Joe the following.
Either he's lying or, as usual, doesn't know what he's talking about.
Now, the other one that he focuses on is People will be online and they won't be able to get water.
This really is so disingenuous.
The restriction on water and food is a restriction on electioneering at the polling place.
Every state has it.
They don't allow you to electioneer within a certain number of feet of the polling place.
You can't be there with your buttons.
You can't give things out.
So you don't unduly, influentially harass people.
This is supposed to be a private vote, so they want to give people space.
What's happened is...
Advocacy groups advocating for a candidate, advocating for left-wing causes or right-wing causes, would start using the subterfuge of giving water out or food out as a way of showing people literature and buttons and maybe saying a few things.
So they can't do it.
But the election officials can provide water, so don't be afraid.
Nobody's going to die of thirst in Georgia while they're voting.
And there are also provisions for shortening the lines so that things move much, much faster.
This is a provision for no electioneering close to the polls, like every state and almost every government has.
Completely misrepresented by our disingenuous president, which may be actually complimenting him.
Maybe our unaware president.
The worst of what he did, though, was to say this is like Jim Crow on steroids.
Now, many people might not know what Jim Crow is.
Many young people might not know what it is.
The Jim Crow laws were laws that segregated whites from blacks.
They started around the time of Reconstruction, and they were the laws that encompassed blacks not being able to eat at the same counters as whites, eat in the same restaurants as whites, blacks having to remain in the back of the bus, blacks having to have separate but equal—theoretically equal—education.
These are laws that really lasted a long, long time and actually were continued by many of Joe's best friends in the Senate.
Kamala Harris made this point in the first debate, I don't think she'd make it now, that Joe, from her point of view, seemed to have tendencies towards racism in the senators that he embraced and praised, one of whom was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, and all of whom supported Jim Crow laws.
This is not a Jim Crow law.
If this is a Jim Crow law, then the state of New York has a much worse Jim Crow law, because the state of New York restricts voting much more than Georgia.
This is an absurd statement.
And it's very, very revealing of a president who promised to unite, who has already become the divider-in-chief.
And what did he divide on all the time?
He immediately goes to false accusations of racism, imputing racism to a law that is no different than the law in many democratic states.
In fact, it's more expansive than the law in many democratic states, including Biden in your own state of Delaware.
It's almost become routine now for Biden to divide us as a way of conquering, as a way of gathering support for his provisions and the things he wants to do to change our form of government.
And this one, this one has a very, very, very, very clear purpose.
So he engages in doublespeak.
Doublespeak is a term that comes from Orwell's 1984, and it was taught by Big Brother.
Big Brother taught his followers to say one thing but mean another.
So here, they're castigating the Georgia law, but what they really want to do is do away with the filibuster and impose their own law that would basically destroy all the protections.
So that's the doublespeak.
In Orwell's 1984, if you didn't subscribe to the doublespeak, you were unpersoned.
They basically took your identity away.
They shunned you.
They put you aside.
You lost your family.
You lost your job.
Sounds a lot like the way they use cancel culture, doesn't it?
There's a reason for this.
The reason for this is because all of this is part of the journey to socialism.
It's all been written down.
It's all been outlined much earlier.
And they're rushing toward socialism.
They're not even moving toward socialism.
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When you listen to these things, you have got to, you have got to use your common sense, because the media is completely in his pocket.
They will not point out any of the things that I just pointed out.
They'll just accept the fact that this is some kind of terrible racist law, when in fact it's a broader, more expansive, and more liberal law than in many democratic states.
And why are they doing this?
Why are they dividing us over race?
All the time, all the time.
Everything is racial.
Why?
Because that's the way they can perpetuate their power.
They have no ideas.
They can't manage to save their lives.
Look at our cities under Democrat mayors.
They're falling apart.
Look at the country under a Democrat president.
Look at our border.
Look at what's happening to our economy.
Look at what North Korea is doing.
Flying over Japan again and dropping Missiles and threatening.
What's China doing?
China is making sure that the compromised president does everything for China's benefit and not for America's benefit.
And he is certainly complying.
Maybe if you and your family got millions and millions of dollars from Chinese communists, you'd do the same thing.
Or maybe not.
Maybe you'd be a patriot and you'd stand up for the United States.
But with Biden, it's not America first.
He made a lot more money from China than he ever made in America.
How we elected a president is a whole other story.
The new Georgia voting law, SB202, is very, very simple to describe.
And as I said, it falls in the mainstream of voting laws all throughout the United States.
And it's a delicate balance between open access, more access, and then reasonable restrictions for reasons of security.
And accuracy of voting and verification of voting.
When the pandemic happened, we put in a lot of provisions that allowed for very, very easy voting because people couldn't come together.
They couldn't be in the same place.
There were real restrictions on that.
So this law is passed to codify some of the things that we learned and some of the lessons that we learned, good and bad, from that experience.
And in fact, to say that it's restrictive or expansive with regard to the right to vote is simplistic.
It's both.
It expands the right more and it restricts it a bit because it's a balance.
And, you know, as Madison said, if men were angels, we wouldn't need government.
You can't make voting the honor system, which is what they want to do.
So this law, here's what it does.
The most important thing that it does is it provides for absentee ballot mail-in voting.
Makes it legal.
It provides for it in a more expansive way than many other states.
Anybody can submit a mail-in ballot.
You don't have to give a reason.
In New York, for example, it's a provision where you have to give a reason.
You have to justify it.
You have five things.
Being out of the state, being out of the country, business, health.
But you have to justify it.
And it has to be granted to you.
Here, you can just vote by mail if that's what you want to do.
So that makes it more expansive, makes it easier to vote, and creates more access than in many states where Democrats preside, and many states that have baseball teams, by the way, Mr. Commissioner.
What it does do, because it's made the vote wide open, it provides for a means of identification, a means of verification.
The prior means of verification was signature, comparing signatures.
A lot of dispute as to whether or not that was violated in the prior election.
Let's put that aside for a moment.
Comparing signatures is a very inexact form of verification.
The people doing it are not handwriting experts.
It results in lots of disputes and many, many times when the right to vote is taken away because they can't make the proper identification.
Instead, what Georgia has done is to say, you have to have identification.
You have to provide identification.
By the way, as is done in almost every European government, All democracies, and as is done in many other states throughout the United States.
And in their case, they want you to produce either your voter identification card, your state identification card, your driver's license, or the last four digits of your social security number.
Now tell me that's onerous.
97% of registered voters in Georgia at least have at least one, if not all of those things.
There's no discrepancy between whites and blacks as to whether they have this.
In fact, a poll taken just a few days ago, or maybe a few weeks ago rather, found the following.
It found that 69% of black Residents of Georgia favor voter identification.
72% are whites, and about 88% of people who earn $25,000 or less.
So, the Democrats, with this phony argument, they're doing this for the benefit of African Americans and poor people.
African Americans and poor people are telling them, we don't want it!
We don't need it!
So I think it'd be really instructive if we just listen to a little bit of this video.
I've played this on a prior podcast, but this is from Ami Horowitz.
I do believe it goes back to about 2015, 2016, but this would be the same answer you'd get today.
In fact, I was talking to people just yesterday who are very, very strongly making this point, but just listen to this and then I think you'll get the point.
I'm Ami Horowitz and I'm here in Berkeley, California to find out if voter ID laws suppress
the black vote.
Do you have an opinion on voter ID laws?
Yeah, they're usually pretty racist and they're bad.
I think voter ID laws are a way to perpetuate racism.
Would you go as far as to say those laws are racist?
For sure.
Do you think it suppresses the African American vote?
Definitely.
Why?
Because they're less likely to have state IDs.
Minority voters are less likely to have the kinds of IDs that have been These type of people don't live in areas with easy access to DMVs or other places where they can get identification.
Yeah, you have to have access to the internet.
You have to be able to pay an internet service provider for certain fees.
people in particular? Yeah, you have to have access to the internet. You have to be able
to pay an internet service provider for certain fees. Do you think that's harder for black
people to go online? Well, I feel like they don't have the knowledge of how it works.
A lot of people have smartphones, but you might not have data.
For most of the communities they don't really know what is out there just because they're not aware or like they're not informed.
I also think there's a repression of like black voting with how they how if you're a convicted felon like you're not allowed to vote and everything and when you look at swing states like Florida that's a huge population of the of the like African-Americans.
Now I'm here in East Harlem to ask black people their thoughts on what you just heard.
Do you have I.D.
normally?
You carry I.D.
around?
Yes, I have state I.D.
Do you carry I.D.?
Yes, I do.
Do you know anybody, any black person who doesn't carry I.D.?
No.
Everyone that I know has an I.D.
Why would they think we don't have I.D.?
Ha!
That's a lie.
Why would they say that?
Do you have I.D.?
Yes.
Because I have my I.D.
and my friends have their I.D.
so we know what we need to carry around.
Everybody that I know have I.D.
like that's one of the things you need to walk around with New York with, an I.D.
Do you know any black adult who does not have ID?
No, I don't.
Is it a weird thing to even say that?
Yes, it is.
What is this?
Some type of trick candy camera?
I know, right?
That's the only thing I brought with me.
Those are legit IDs.
I heard a lot also that black people can't figure out how to get to the DMV.
Me?
I know it's at 125th Street.
It's on 125th Street and 3rd Avenue, I believe.
No.
Of course.
Yes.
Uh-huh.
No problem.
Okay.
Do you know where the ID, the DMV is right here?
It's on 125th Street and 3rd Avenue I believe.
You know how to get there?
Yeah.
Do you have a problem getting there if you have to get there?
No.
I know these sound like silly questions.
You know how to get to the DMV?
Of course.
You know where it is?
Yes.
You can get there?
Uh huh.
No problem.
No problem.
Just checking.
Okay.
And I also heard a lot that black people, especially poor black people, have no access
to the internet.
Can't figure out how to use the internet.
That's, that's just stupidity, honestly.
Yeah.
Everybody has access to the internet.
Even a little kid can figure out how to work the internet.
I had access to the internet for years.
You know how to use it properly?
Exactly, I do it at work.
So of course I know how to use it.
My kids know how to use it.
They all have iPads, iPods, whatever.
Your phone has data?
Unlimited.
Unlimited data?
I use my phone as a hotspot.
What does that say to you for the people who have this perception of life?
They're pretty much ignorant.
That's what my thought process is on.
I do think that's ignorant.
Ignorant.
Ignorant.
That's the word I hear a lot.
Very, very ignorant.
Very, very ignorant.
Does it sound racist for somebody to say that?
I think it is a little racist because, you know, you're putting people in a category and you have no idea what you're talking about.
Maybe a little bit racist in it, but, like I said, I think it's more stupidity and ignorance.
You're judging somebody, like, but you're judging them because they're black, saying that they don't got it.
What people are they talking to?
Who are these people talking to?
Do you have a problem that if you go to vote and they say could we please see your ID to make sure you are who you say you are?
I love showing my ID.
You have no problem with that?
Nope.
Would you have a problem if when you go to vote and they say could we please see your ID to make sure you are who you say you are?
Do you have an issue with that?
No.
Would you have a problem if there was a rule where you had to show your ID in order to vote?
I don't think so.
No.
Would you have an issue if there was a rule saying you gotta show your ID before you vote?
Nah.
You cool with that?
Yeah.
So, you realize what Biden and the Democrats are doing here.
You realize what it portrays.
It portrays that they're elitist racists.
Because they are arguing, I don't know if they believe it or not, that you can't have voter identification because blacks are not as capable of getting identification as whites.
And that poor people aren't as capable of getting identification as middle class or rich people.
Now, where do they come to that idea?
Obviously, not by talking to blacks who really live in America, or poor people, because 67% of blacks in Georgia say they want identification, and 80-something percent are poor people.
So they're legislating this for themselves, not for the poor people.
They're using it as an excuse.
In order to get on an airplane, get a job, Get in a building.
Sign up for anything or get welfare or food stamps.
You have to have photographic identification.
That's why 97, 98% of the people in Georgia, poor, rich, white, black, Hispanic, have identification.
And it is a relatively easy matter.
For the other two or three percent to get identification.
And by the way, if you really cared about those people, you racist Democrats, you would encourage them to get identification because it would help with the rest of their lives.
It'd make them more productive and make them more independent.
It'd make it easier for them to take care of their families.
But you don't care about that.
You don't care about that because you want to keep them dependent so they will vote Democrat against their interests.
And that's what this is all about.
This is all about the horrible things that your party has done to black people throughout history.
When you talk about Jim Crow laws, Joe, it's your party who passed the Jim Crow laws.
I never supported them, but you were a big pal with the people who did.
And you got some statements, Joe.
You could fool people as to whether Well, never mind.
I think people remember those statements.
Let me give you the exact poll results.
It's an AJC poll.
It was taken in January.
74% of Georgia voters support voter identification.
67% are blacks.
And an astounding 89% of people making $25,000 or less.
So the idea that blacks and poor people need this protection from you is garbage.
It's typical.
Democrat exploitation of blacks and the poor.
You go get their vote, you make them dependent, and you don't do anything for them.
Under Trump, not you, it was the highest black employment level ever, the lowest unemployment level ever, the highest wages ever.
You're on your way to the basement, Joe, for what you're doing to our economy.
The simple fact is that identification is necessary for everyone, and therefore you're doing them a favor by pushing that very small percentage of people who don't have it to get it.
You're actually helping them, but that would elude anything that you have in mind for blacks and for poor people, because you've only made the situation for them worse, starting with the Great Society.
Also, every single European country requires some form of photo identification, or just about every single one.
And if you're going to do broad-based mail-in voting, you have to have it.
Now let me go through quickly some of the other provisions of the law.
This new law expands prior law in that it recognizes the use of drop boxes, which were not allowed before the pandemic.
They were illegal, in fact.
Now, drop boxes are going to be made legal, but they're going to be somewhat restricted.
They're going to have to only be available during early voting days, and they are going to have to be in a physical location where early voting is taking place, so they can be watched, so people don't stuff them.
That's not unreasonable.
That's not restricting the right to vote.
That's restricting the right to cheat.
And that doesn't benefit anybody.
Dropbox?
Reasonable restriction on a Dropbox to make sure that there is no cheating.
As I said before, the law does provide no-excuse absentee voting, unlike other states, including Democratic states.
But it shortens the period of voting.
from what existed during the pandemic.
But still, it's a very, very generous 11 weeks.
A lot more than many Democrat states, including the ones I pointed out, Colorado and New York.
11 weeks of early voting is allowed.
And it requires that it ends 11 days before the election.
That's the restriction.
It's a very long period of time.
Also, the law bans Sending out unsolicited absentee ballots because there is a great deal of risk when that kind of voter solicitation goes on, but it expands weekend early voting from one Saturday to two, and it allows you to utilize two Sundays if you want to do that.
And that was a provision that was very much fought Some Republicans wanted to exclude Sundays originally, and they compromised, included Sundays, and therefore they've now expanded that aspect of the law.
And it also mandates that there must be at least three weeks of early in-person voting, and it has to be at least eight hours to 12 hours a day.
And that is something of an expansion.
The law shortens the runoff period from nine weeks to four weeks, which doesn't have much to do with the right to vote, just has to do with candidates spending less and getting their situation over with faster.
And as to providing water, let me make clear, nobody is going to be dying of thirst on the voting lines in Georgia.
You can't provide water if you're doing it as a subterfuge for electioneering.
The polling officials can provide water anytime they want, any place they want, anywhere they want.
So the whole water thing is completely made up as a silly but unfortunately divisive reason To try to penalize Georgia, but really the whole purpose of this is not so much to penalize Georgia, although by removing the all-star game, an enormous number of poor people are going to be out of work.
I mean, the city of Atlanta is a largely minority black city, And they're moving it to Colorado, Denver, I guess, which is a largely white city.
And nobody is thinking about how much money that's pulling away from the African-American community.
But I guess, you know, that doesn't matter.
Democrats don't do much for African-Americans anyway.
Why?
Why shouldn't they hurt them a little bit more?
But it's really a tragedy, the way that exploitation has been allowed, and the way that exploitation takes place, and the way our crooked press doesn't cover.
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for returning. So the Georgia law is without any doubt a reasonable balance of access and
validation, access and verification, access and assuring voter integrity.
You need both.
You need both because both are really important.
It's important that people have a right to vote.
And it's important that we don't have cheating because that takes away your right to vote.
It takes away your vote.
When someone votes illegally, the legal vote is canceled.
Democrats, as I said before, particularly Biden, are engaging in doublespeak.
What they're saying is the opposite of what's true.
This is a Jim Crow law.
No, it isn't.
Just like the laws in other states.
Better than some and maybe worse than a few others.
It's not a Jim Crow law.
Unlike the Georgia law, which is similar to the voting laws in our other states and in other recognized democracies, H.R.
1 would be a totally different election.
Let's put it that way.
It would change our form of government.
Now, there are a lot of parts to H.R.
1, but let me give you the one that completely destroys The opportunity for a free and fair election.
It would require every state to send absentee ballots to every voter.
That'd be at least 150 million absentee ballots would be sent out.
Go look at the report of Jimmy Carter and Jim Baker here in America or the reports in other countries in Europe, many of whom have done away with either mail-in voting or certainly have done away with unrestricted mail-in voting because any European country that allows it anymore then they would allow illegal immigrants non-citizens to vote large largely because you can have you have to have same-day registration this is all provided by the omnipotent federal government
When in fact, state governments are supposed to run elections, but the federal government is going to say, under H.R.
1, which they want to pass, that people can come in on election day and register.
And you can't ask them whether they're a citizen or not.
You can't require them to give you identification.
And there's no signature to match them against.
So, I mean, 100,000 people could come in from over the Mexican border.
They could all vote and go back.
I mean, that's a bit of an exaggeration.
Is it?
He's sort of getting there on the border, isn't he?
I mean, what is it?
First month, he had 100,000 come in.
Next month, 250,000.
And the estimates are that 100,000, we don't even see, so add 100,000 to both those numbers.
I mean, he's destroying our border.
He won't acknowledge that it's a crisis.
It's not a crisis.
It's a human tragedy.
He's got people living in horrible conditions of confinement.
He's made the business of sex trafficking enormously profitable.
It's alleged that sex trafficking now is more profitable than drugs for the Mexican cartel.
The worst part of this, the worst part of this is how our so-called business elite Just goes along with this without even analyzing it.
The CEOs of Coca-Cola, Delta, American Express have all mindlessly supported this.
One of them actually was against it before he was for it.
But I guess they twisted his arm and he just agreed to say this is a terrible law.
Of course, the laws in a number of other places are a lot more terrible.
So, I mean, Coca-Cola is going to have to basically pull out of America.
Because we just restrict the right to vote too much.
Maybe they'll do well in Venezuela.
Or in a place like China, they seem to really love China, where you don't have any voting at all.
You know, Major League Baseball is doing a whole thing to expand in China.
Anybody tell the Commissioner they don't have voting?
I mean, there's no, there's no... Gee, Commissioner, like, there's no voter access in China.
You know why?
There's no voting in China.
And they don't send ballots to the people in the concentration camps either.
And you want to expand in China?
And you want to pull out of Georgia?
What a disgrace.
America's pastime?
And you're pulling out of Georgia because it's too restrictive?
And your headquarters is in New York, it's more restrictive?
And you're taking it to a place that's more restrictive, Colorado?
And you expect me not to see through that?
This is all part of a movement.
It's all part of a movement that was preordained and laid out a long time ago, and they are now on a very, very quick express to get to the result.
And the movement here is to change our system of elections, to change our system of government, when you consider that they want to pack the Supreme Court, They want to do away with the filibuster, so that they can absolutely control the legislative branch of the government.
They want to provide for this wide-open, open-book honor system of voting, so that we can become a one-party country, because socialism usually results in a one-party country.
They want to raise taxes to levels that are confiscatory, which goes a long way toward the distribution of wealth that socialism Seems to encourage and then ends up destroying human ingenuity and creativity.
We're on the road to socialism.
We're on the road to it.
We're on an express train to socialism.
There's only one thing we can do.
We've got to call it out when we see it.
When they try to take away our right of free speech with the censorship they now have, we've got to speak out against it.
When they try to take away our right to defend ourselves, we have to say, no, no, no.
We were given those rights by the constitution and by God, more important than you, the Democrat party or the socialist party.
And they have installed a complete double system of justice in this country.
So a person like Hunter Biden can violate the gun control laws, which Democrats are obsessively in favor of and get away with it.
And we all know it.
And he can violate the pornography laws.
He can violate the money laundering laws.
And he and his father for 30 years can just make a mockery of our bribery laws by selling the office.
And it's all on a hard drive.
Easy to prove, which was censored.
We got to call all these things out.
We can't change them all at once.
We can't fight all of them all at once, but we have to take a lesson, gotta take a lesson that I learned from very, very wise people in dealing with the Holocaust, and never again.
Never again means pointing out anti-Semitism anytime you see it, feel it, or smell it.
You might not be able to rectify every situation, but you gotta make a record of it.
Because in doing that, you create the movement To protect yourself against what's happening again.
And we have to fight now.
And I don't mean with violence.
I mean with our words, our articles, our thoughts, our arguments, and then eventually our vote to make sure we preserve this democracy.
Because these things Democrats are supporting are intended to change our form of government and our way of life.
In accordance with the socialist goals outlined originally by Karl Marx.
There's no mistaking it.
That's what's happening.
This is part of it.
And we will be there to point it out to you every time it happens.
And we will not be censored.
And neither will you.
Thank you very much.
We'll be back in a few days.
God bless you.
God bless America.
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