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Sept. 24, 2019 - Radio Free Nortwest - H.A. Covington
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Oh, then tell me, Sean O 'Farrell, tell me why you hurry so.
Hush your vocal, hush and listen, and his cheeks were all aglow.
I bear orders from the captain, get you ready quick and soon, for the pikes must be together by the rising of the moon.
By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon, for the pikes must be together by the rising of the moon.
Oh, then tell me, Sean O 'Farrell, where the gathering is to be.
In the old spot by the river, rightful norm to you and me.
One word more for signal, token whistle of the marching tune.
For your pike upon your shoulder by the rising of the moon.
By the rising of the moon.
By the rising of the moon.
With your pike upon your shoulder by the rising of the moon.
Out from many a mud wall cabin eyes were watching through the night.
Many a manly chest was throbbing for the blessed morning light.
Mormers passed along the valleys like the man she's lonely croon.
And a thousand blades were flashing at the rising of the moon.
At the rising of the moon.
At the rising of the moon.
And a thousand blades were flashing at the rising of the moon.
There beside the singing river that dark mass of men were seen.
Far above their shining weapons On their own beloved queen Death to every foe And straighter forward Strike the marching tune And hurrah my voice for freedom Tis the rising of the moon Tis the rising of the moon Tis the rising of the moon And hurrah my voice for freedom Tis the rising of the moon Well they fought for poor old Ireland And full bitter was their fate Oh what glorious
pride and sorrow Kill the name of ninety-eight Yet thank God it still is beating Heart in manhood's burning noon Who could follow in their footsteps At the rising of the moon At the rising of the moon At the rising of the moon Who would follow in their footsteps At the rising of the moon
Thank you.
Thank you.
I've named the Jews, Stein after Stein.
Every last sentence is a verbal hate crime.
Tasted Trump steaks, I've cooked a few.
I've had conservatives drinking my ra- He
brought us hats and dubstep and everything that goes with it.
Let's build the wall.
But they said Jeb was chosen.
A bush couldn't lose.
Donald stumped him and everyone else in the race, even Lion's head crews!
We are the Trumpians, my friends.
We're beating up shit lambs'til the end.
We are the Trumpians.
We are the Trumpians.
No cuts, no losers.
'Cause we are the Trumpians.
We are the Trumpians, my friends.
We're beating up shit lambs'til the end.
We are the Trumpians.
We are the Trumpians.
No cuts, no losers.
'Cause we are the Trumpians.
We are the Trumpians.
Joining me tonight is my very special guest.
She comes highly requested and highly anticipated.
She's a journalistic powerhouse and a force to be reckoned with.
She's making waves and triggering all the right people with her excellent exposés over at Mint Press News, and she's also republished everywhere.
She's been extremely busy.
She's in high demand lately, but she's here with us tonight.
So, the great Whitney Webb.
Welcome, Whitney, and thank you for joining us.
Yeah, you know, your articles are just going everywhere and blowing up.
So, some great titles like Microsoft, and I've done several videos about...
Like Microsoft's Election Guard, a Trojan horse for a military industrial takeover.
The Trust Project, which is the ADL censorship with the social media companies.
The Tech Takeover Agenda with Paul Singer, neocon billionaire, and Netanyahu outsourcing our jobs.
And then, of course, my favorite topics.
The push to destroy Jerusalem's iconic Al-Aqsa Mosque.
The untold story of Christian Zionism.
The Epstein story, of course.
And then you're joining me tonight to talk mass surveillance with this new carbine company in the Epstein network.
So thanks for being here, Whitney.
Yeah, like I said, no problem.
Thanks for covering my stuff and all these really important topics that a bunch of other people are totally ignoring.
So props to you.
Right, well, you know, mainstream media is ignoring this stuff, but I'm at least seeing a lot of people in alt media and independent media that are focused on all this, and you've been making the rounds and...
Okay, so basically Carbine is one of a group of companies that are all connected.
Israeli military intelligence and US intelligence like the CIA and they're basically working together and they basically already have ready this bi-national pre-crime surveillance state software that is set to hook up to like 5G and the internet of things and all of this stuff and it's all being pushed through with mass shootings being the excuse.
So basically We've seen that with Trump recently, how he's been responding to these mass shootings, saying, "Oh, we need to detect mass shooters before they strike, and we need to do that with technology." So all of these companies basically are the technological solution that he's promoting now.
This has already been in the works and has already been set up for several years, really starting back in 2012.
And in the past like two years or so has really gotten a lot bigger.
And a lot of these companies, a lot of them are Israeli.
Their business model is basically based on more mass shootings happening and Americans being.
You know, more afraid, basically, as a way of sort of pushing this through.
And so the creepy thing is that, you know, if there's another big mass shooting or some other type of crisis event, I mean, we could really see this sort of stuff get pushed through, you know, without people, you know, really consenting to it.
And what's disturbing, too, is that, you know, Israel uses a lot of this sort of pre-crime technology already against Palestinians in a really Orwellian way.
And basically, we're seeing, you know, the same sort of system being set up in the U.S. now.
So that's like my really brief summary.
There's obviously a lot more detail.
I mean, it's...
It's like a 20-page report, but that's like the thesis.
So we're having these mass shootings, and Trump recently said that we need to stop them before they happen, like social media needs to do something.
And then all of his buddies, like Peter Thiel and all these, you know, not Ehud Brox, his buddy, but these networks, Epstein networks, they've got the answer all ready to go, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So Carbine 911 is like a big part of my article, and that is one of the companies that I talk about.
Because that's the one that was funded by Epstein.
Ehud Barak is the chairman of that, and Peter Thiel is a funder.
And, you know, Carbine basically hooks up to all these 911 centers across the country, and they're basically about to be pushed through at the federal level pending certain legislation, if it goes forward, to upgrade all of, like, the aging 911 infrastructure into next-generation 911 or NG911.
And Carbine 911, this Israeli tech startup that was founded by Unit 8200 guys, they basically...
They say on their website they have strong relationships with the two main lobby groups that are pushing this NG911 stuff through.
And they have all these tie-ins to the Trump administration, too, with Peter Thiel, who's a big Trump backer, but also Trey Stevens is on the board of advisors who was on the Trump transition team.
And on the board of directors is the biggest donor to Trump 2020, this New York real estate developer named Elliott Tawil.
So it really seems like they're the ones that are going to be pushed through when this new law is passed.
I think it's two or three U.S. counties.
Gotten all these rave reviews.
Of course, that was before Epstein was arrested in July.
That probably created some negative PR for them.
The basic carbine is you call 911 with your smartphone, and then carbine gets all the access, basically full access to all the data on your phone, extracts it and stores it, and then uses that to enable what they call decision makers to analyze your past and present behavior and then predict future patterns.
And of course, as I mentioned, this is one of the things So, pre-crime, like, they're profiling everybody.
Isn't it with, like, Alexa?
Didn't that come out just recently, too?
Or we've known about it for a while, but they're using our phones.
Right, well that's skipping ahead a little bit.
Yeah, well, that started in the 80s and it's still around today.
So basically some people in connection with my Epstein reporting may have heard about the Promise software, which was like this really effective software that was used that was bugged by Israel in collusion with people from the Reagan administration and sold by like Robert Maxwell all over the all over the world.
Basically, the success of the That is basically Palantir, which is Peter Thiel's company.
Back in the 80s, you know, the bucking of promise and all this stuff was going on.
There was this database created by Oliver North, part of the Continuity of Government program, that was called Maine Corps.
And it basically, if you had been arrested at a political protest or at one point refused to pay your taxes or, you know, even done really trivial stuff, you could end up on this database of people that the government suspected at some point may present a problem.
There were ever a national crisis in the United States and the definition of national.
In relation to this program are really messed up.
They include things like widespread internal dissent and also national opposition to a U.S. military intervention abroad.
For example, if the U.S. goes to war with Iran, everyone is upset about it, and there's like a mass movement to oppose the war.
In theory, you know, this database could be put into effect.
And basically, it has all these names on there.
It still exists today, even though it was made in the 80s.
2008 was the last time a lot of reports on this came out, and it was believed to have 8 million people on it.
It probably has way more than now.
And also Israel was involved in this database.
We know it was involved at least, you know, it was created in like 1982.
They were at least involved by 1992.
And they probably remained involved.
And they were apparently involved not only in having promised the bug promise software be used in this, but also in determining factors that could get someone put on this database, which is really messed up if you think about it.
Because like, you know, we know, for example, that Unit 8200 has a deal with the NSA to spy on Palestinian Americans.
So, you know, you could sort of...
There was a violence.
Right.
Well, yeah, I was just going to say, the ADL's been creating dossiers on American citizens for decades, and Adam Milstein and Canary Mission, they're always putting Palestinians and BDS activists on lists as well.
I think it was a Vice documentary about Unit 8200.
They interviewed some Unit 8200 whistleblower, and they said that they spy on everything that the Palestinians do, and then they find somebody to blackmail, and then they get them to do stuff.
Yeah, they do a lot of blackmail stuff, which is really crazy when you look at the...
The Unit 8200 stuff in the context of Epstein, who was his sexual blackmail operation was about the name, about getting as much blackmail as possible.
And then they're in this company with Unit 8200 guys that has all this access to stuff in your phone and has a huge potential for blackmail.
And we also know that Epstein was blackmailing all these guys in Silicon Valley.
And I say in my article that I think it's possible that, you know, sort of this melding of like unit X, Unit 8200 guys and all these Israeli intelligence connected startups, their integration into Silicon Valley, blackmail could have been.
We used to get American people in Silicon Valley to go along with that, which I think is definitely possible now that we know that Epstein was involved in that sort of stuff.
I just saw this was in the news yesterday, the 15th, a few days ago, out of Times of Israel.
Tel Aviv team working on digital wallet push.
So the new blockchain-based Facebook's crypto.
Like Libra coin or whatever?
Libra, yeah.
It's being made in Tel Aviv.
We're talking about pre-crime and them profiling everybody.
red flag laws.
It reminds me of China and their social credit system.
I watched a little, I think it was on Netflix or somewhere Chinese documentary and they buy everything with their phone.
They scan, their phone with a barcode.
So that's kind of similar to what Facebook's going to be.
And they're already not letting Chinese dissidents go on trains and buy certain stuff like that.
We're not far off from that now that they're kicking people off of PayPal and all the social media monopolies.
That's definitely the plan to come here, don't you think?
I think this sort of stuff they do is incremental, so it might take some time for us to get where China is.
But talking about China really quick, I want to go back to Carbine.
So Carbine, right, as I mentioned, is being sort of marketed as this app on your phone to report emergencies.
So the Chinese had an app that was like that too, and it was mandated to be installed on people's phones as the way to report emergencies and save lives faster and all this stuff.
But then it was reverse-engineered, and it was basically found out that they were automatically profiling everyone.
They were like monitoring every aspect of a person's life, their personal conversations, even how much power their phones were using, their location, where they were going, who they were meeting.
And they profiled people by all these different factors, including their religion and stuff like that in common forms.
I think, you know, we're sort of tiptoeing into that sort of direction that China's already gone in pretty quickly, and a lot of it is being done by, like, Israeli tech companies, which is creepy to think about.
Yeah, we knew about a lot of this kind of spying going on even before Snowden, but Snowden released some of it, and it's...
It's interesting that Snowden articles say Israel spyware was used to track and eventually kill Jamal Khashoggi.
Right.
Right.
And then also, you know, a lot of stuff about Israel came out in the Snowden docs and like didn't get.
Very covered at all.
So, like, one thing that came out is that a doc from, like, a document from, like, 2013 was released that showed Israel as the most aggressive eye agency targeting the U.S. behind Russia and China.
It's number three, so it's even more aggressive than, say, Iran or Venezuela or some other, like, enemy state or, like, North Korea even.
You know, so Israel's, like, way more aggressive than all of those.
Like, totally crazy.
And also it came out that the NSA shares all this raw intelligence with Israel.
Like, the extent of the intelligence sharing is just insane and really should be unconstitutional.
It's a foreign government that we know, like, they spies on the government.
Just a few days ago, all these stingray towers were found around the White House.
I mean, we know that Israel's been spying on U.S. presidents directly in the White House, sapping White House communications since at least the late 90s.
I mean, they probably did it earlier.
But we know for a fact that they were doing it with Bill Clinton.
I mean, they did that through private Israeli tech companies that were founded by Unit 8200 people, Amdocs and Converse Symposium.
It is a different name.
It's called Verit.
Wasn't it Amdoc that installed the phones in Clinton?
Yeah, that was Amdoc's Bellatlantic.
They got a contract for that.
Verint, which is what Converse Infosys became, they were contracted.
This foreign company was contracted by the NSA to put back doors into the entire U.S. telecommunications system of the U.S. for the NSA, but it was done by an Israeli company.
And it was also put back doors into popular Silicon Valley products like Facebook apps on your phone, Google products, things like that.
So obviously, if you're going to contract that to a company deeply connected...
I've noticed in some of your articles, the way you'll phrase it, you'll say, it's reasonable to suggest or to speculate that this is the case.
Well, I mean, you kind of have to do that when you're talking about intelligence agencies, because it's not like you can expect them to admit it.
If you catch them, be like, oh yeah, you got us.
The CIA denies everything, even when they get exposed for stuff.
I ran contracts.
For example, they denied until it was like super well documented and then they were like, well, we didn't really see that much wrongdoing on our part.
And then all those guys that were involved got burdened.
The drug running that Gary Webb exposed, the CIA investigated itself and found that they had done nothing wrong, right?
So like intelligence agencies are super not transparent.
So a lot of times when you report on them or report about what they're up to, and this is true for Israel as well, they're not going to just come out and admit it and tell you.
So even with like Israel planting these spy devices around the White House recently, You know, Netanyahu was like, that's a total lie.
You know, like, all these U.S. officials were like, yeah, it was definitely Israel, and obviously someone really, like, the highest level of their government knew this was going on.
And Trump just says he doesn't believe it, and he thinks it's fake news, as if there's not enough spies in his administration already, and he's not collaborating with them all.
They're still spying on him because they can't help themselves.
It's just too valuable.
Well, I think some people were thinking that equipment was to spy on Trump.
I think it was probably more to spy on other people in the Trump White House that they may have wasn't as in line with their agenda as maybe Trump and the Kushner's or something like that.
So I don't think it was aimed at Trump because I think it's pretty clear Trump is really in sync with Netanyahu wants and he's been really buttered up with all this, you know, King Cyrus and Queen Esther comparisons and things like that.
I think he thinks he's, he said, he thinks he's the chosen one and all this stuff.
So I don't really think he's worried about being spied on personally.
But I think it's other, this was aimed more at other people that he.
I think, you know, may have not been going along with the agenda because some earlier Trump appointees, H.R. McMaster and Rex Tillerson, eventually ended up getting fired because of their positions on Israel-Palestine, or where they were at odds with some of the more, like, hardcore Zionists in the White House.
I think that's a pretty, you know, fair assumption to make.
Right around the time that that came out, there was Friedman quit, Friedman left, and then John Bolton got fired, supposedly, and then now, uh...
Oh, you mean Greenblatt.
David Friedman's still there.
Oh, yeah, I said Friedman.
I said Friedman.
Friedman's still there.
You were talking about Maxwell.
You've been covering him so much in your recent articles.
This is something that was shared with me.
Great article out of Newsweek, The Tycoon's Final Days.
This is written in 1991.
And it talks about Robert Maxwell, Mossad agent.
His last phone call.
How interesting is this?
What are the odds?
His last phone call was around 11 o 'clock that night from Rabbi Vogel, a leader of the Chabad Lubavitchers, a Hasidic Jewish sect.
Maxwell, it says that he was helping persuade the Lenin library in Moscow to release a collection of ancient holy books to the Lubavitchers.
And then another time he helicoptered Kaffar, I'm not sure what that is, to a Chabad So he brought some people to a Chabad settlement.
Just a coincidence, but I thought that was interesting.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, well, I think it's pretty clear that the Maxwell family was tied in, sort of like the religious Zionists and Chabad and things like that.
And some of the other people that Robert Maxwell worked with, like in the Promise software, for example, like Rafi Aitin was Jonathan Pollard's handler and recruiter and all this stuff.
He was really involved in Third Temple stuff, too.
He was one of the guys that dug this illegal tunnel, one of the first illegal tunnels under Al-Aqsa Mas to try and find the Ark of the Covenant before that was sealed and shut down.
And he did that with Shlomo Gorin, who was like the former chief rabbi of Israel.
And basically the guy who all these like modern day organizations in Israel devoted to the third temple, the Temple Institute and things like that.
They all sort of come from, they were all inspired directly by Blomo Gorin.
So that's pretty crazy that you have these same guys that were like high ranking, you know, and really important intelligence operatives.
Rafi Aitin and Robert Maxwell also being mixed up in those same religious circles because they have this prophetic drive to bring about the end times and stuff like that.
This religious extremism angle, it doesn't really get covered a lot.
I mean, in U.S. media, you'll see like Christian Zionism and their end-time belief.
They're like for Mike Pompeo and Mike Pence, that'll get some coverage.
You know, the other side of that, of the Zionist extremists like in Israel or even in I don't really think it's that surprising, but I think it's not.
I think people need to start sort of linking a lot of this intelligence, these intelligence operations with the same sort of religious extremism and this sort of religious Zionist perspective that has really driven politics in recent years really far to the right towards these policy objectives like greater Israel and things like that that have sort of, they do, they have a religious basis.
Yeah, you can't ignore the religious aspect of the Jewish state that says that the Talmud is the law and that it's a Jewish state only for Jewish people.
Back to Matt.
Maxwell, tell me a little bit about his other daughter's company.
What is it, Chileid or something like that?
Oh, Chilead.
So other people, I didn't include this in my piece because I found out about it after it was published.
Basically, it's another company that has been, it was created by Christine Maxwell, who is Ghislaine Maxwell's sister and Robert Maxwell's daughter.
And as I mentioned earlier, right, Robert Maxwell was involved in the sale of this bug software all over the world.
And his daughter created a software company and became a major contractor for several government agencies.
They had some sort of weird, they were like really heavily promoted, oddly enough, by the 9-11 Commission that said out of all, right, that said like out of all.
All the software and data mining companies, only Chiliad was the one that was able to, after the fact, connect all the dots and "solve 9 /11", which meant that they were able to connect the dots, preserve the official story or something.
So I find that pretty weird and basically, I guess, marketing pitch.
I don't really know what to call it.
The promotion of Chiliad by the 9-11 Commission got it basically fast-tracked to handle pretty much all of the U.S.'s counterterrorism data for several years.
I'm not sure if they still use it.
I think they probably lost out to Palantir by now because now Palantir is like the king of data mining and all this stuff.
Predictive software and pre-crime stuff, too, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
So I don't know if Chiliad's still really around, but at least in the early 2000s, post 9-11.
I think also in the late 90s, they were really involved in that.
And apparently no one was concerned that, like, this is the company by the...
The daughter of Israel's super spy, Robert Maxwell, who sold bug software all over the U.S., including to sensitive U.S. laboratories like Los Alamos.
They were like, that's fine.
Yeah, it's amazing all these computer crimes and then how it's kind of where we're heading with their tech takeover agenda.
Palantir, that's Peter Thiel's company, and that just reminds me of all of his connections.
Bilderberg's one, Elon Musk, who takes photos with Maxwell, and then also PayPal.
They're both at PayPal and Omidyar.
Who's doing the trust project from eBay and then Craigslist?
What is going on with this Silicon Valley cartel?
Well, also, it's worth pointing out about Peter Thiel is he has a business interest with both Jared Kushner and Jared Kushner's brother in a super tight end of the Kushner family.
And that was sort of his segue into getting a role in the Trump transition team and where he was really influential.
Like, he did a lot of the vetting of potential candidates and nominees.
One of his protégés, an ex-employee of Palantir, was in charge of the Pentagon.
He's on the military aspect of the transition team.
Now he's on the Board of Advisors of Carbine.
Peter Thiel is funding.
You know, you've got an incredible mind to keep all of these names and all these facts and history to put out in these.
But it really is like a little cabal and the same names and companies and organizations keep coming up.
It's actually, yeah, well, I started mapping out my whole Epstein series on sort of this software that lets you sort of like map connections.
And I was really surprised just like by how much of a web it is because it wasn't.
It wasn't that many names, but they were basically, they all had so many connections to one another that it just, when you put it all together, like, there's hardly any white space because there's so many lines between everything.
It's really, really nuts.
But really, it's a really small group of people, but they have their hands in all the same pies.
One guy, for example, that you see a lot come up is Ehud Barak, actually.
And I guess we can get into some of the stuff going on in the U.S.-Mexico border now, because not only is Ehud Barak super involved in carbine, and he's also involved in Black Cube and stuff, but also...
So the Border Patrol has this contract for surveillance towers with Elbit Systems, and the head guy at Elbit Systems, their CEO, used to serve under Ehud Barak, like the Israeli military.
Because remember, Ehud Barak, not only is he an ex-prime minister of Israel, he's also the ex-head of Israel's military intelligence, which includes, of course, Unit 8200.
So that's one of the names that pops up quite a bit.
Whitney, before we get into this article with Israeli connections to drones over our borders.
Okay, so this article, you just sent me this a couple minutes ago.
Before we started, Israeli security tech on U.S.-Mexican border threatens national civil liberties.
I've always been saying, why do they want to build a wall?
One, they already have a wall.
Two, why do they want to build it if there's other barriers like a huge desert or something?
And then three, I was always, why don't they just have drones go up and down the border?
That seems like that would make sense.
And here we go.
And of course, it's an Israeli company now, right?
Right.
Two companies involved in U.S. border security right now.
One of them is Elbit Systems or the U.S. What did they used to call that?
There used to be like a meme or a map where it was the United States and then there was like that 100-mile border or whatever.
It was called the non-constitutional zone or something like that, I think is what it said.
Right.
Well, this is the extent of the area that this company is going to surveil, and it's Israel's largest weapons manufacturer.
And what's also crazy, too, about Elbit Systems is that not that long ago, it used to be owned by this other company called Elron Electronics, and that is owned by this guy who's actually from Argentina, and his name is Eduardo Elstein, and he is, I think, the vice president now of the World Jewish Congress.
And that's where, that's an organization that was led by a bunch of these mega group guys, currently led by Ronald Lauder.
It used to be run by Edgar Bronfman.
So that was like the previous company, and now it's changed hands to this ex-IDF military guy that has connections to Ehud Barak.
And the other company that's involved in actually building the wall prototype is also Israeli, which a lot of Americans don't get.
Because remember, you know, the wall and all this stuff was like the cornerstone of America first, right?
But it's all being done by Israeli companies, which is pretty odd.
Especially when you consider how they manage their border with Palestine.
Do we really want that for the U.S.?
They try to make a point of it to, like, make the MAGA hats made in America.
I don't know.
Some of them are probably China, but, you know, they say that they're made in America.
But it seems like all these contracts are going to Israel now.
And you don't see all these deals happening with other countries, like with Israel, the special relationship.
And it's not really surprising when you think about it's illegal now with BDS laws to basically...
It's anti-Semitic to not give your contracts to Israel.
Well, so, like, here's the thing.
If you're a president that runs on, like, the idea of national sovereignty, why are you contracting out border security to a foreign company?
I mean, I get that the reasoning is, like, oh, Israel's our ally.
But imagine if this was flipped and this was another country that's also our ally, like Saudi Arabia.
How many Americans would feel comfortable with Saudi intelligence-linked companies, you know, running border security and surveilling two-thirds of Americans, you know, and building the border wall?
I just don't think that makes a lot of sense.
Now, even for people that don't want to criticize Israel or whatever, this is about a foreign country controlling critical aspects of national security.
And that's not just the wall too, that's all this electronic infrastructure we've been talking about.
Why are we giving this away to a foreign country?
Why are we letting all these intelligence linked firms basically end our most secretive government I think that's something people should be asking, because this is a national sovereignty issue.
This isn't a BDS or anti-Israel issue or whatever.
This is a national security issue.
Giving this to any foreign country would...
So I think that's something that needs to be And also, I think it's weird, too, is that we've seen a lot of these Jewish youth groups, like If Not Now and things like that, protest against the protests on birthright trips and some of that stuff.
But I haven't really seen them protest the involvement of so many Israeli companies in this border stuff and this immigration issue.
So I think, you know, I'd really like to see them, you know, start to do that and raise awareness about this, because I don't really see how anyone can really justify giving this aspect of national security to a foreign country, even if it's our allies.
Yeah, a lot of 9 /11 investigators have reported a lot on how 9 /11 was a computer crime, they suspect, with P-TECH and MITRE software involved in the government systems.
And, of course, the Converse and the Amdocs with the Fox News four-part series where they talked about that they were one step ahead and that all the phone calls, even back then in 2001, were all being routed.
Through Israel.
And now today, we got the Jedi Pentagon cloud contract that they're going to give out between Amazon and Microsoft.
And whichever way it goes, it's going to be in the hands of Unit 8200 with the subsidiary that the monopolies bought up that's going to take care of that division.
Yeah, right.
Both those companies have huge research and development centers in Israel and also Microsoft.
Its entire cloud computing software is created in Israel and is led.
Their whole cloud computing unit as a company is led by an ex-Unit 8200 guy.
Isn't Bill Gates?
Well, one, Bill Gates was also tied to Epstein.
And isn't he involved with some Team 8 or tech startup in Israel as well with Eric Schmidt?
Yeah, well, Microsoft is, but I don't know if Gates...
Team 8 is this, they describe themselves as a company creation platform for basic companies founded by Unit 8200 guys when they leave Israel's military and go into the private sector.
And its co-founder and CEO is this former commander, like the guy that was the ex-head of the whole unit.
And so Team 8's top investors are Eric Schmidt, the former CEO of Google, who was super, I believe, close to the Obama White House and he's tied into the Clintons and all that stuff.
ADL awards, too.
He gets ADL awards, big ones, just like Tim Cook.
So surprising, yeah.
And Eric Schmidt also has co-funded and co-invested in a bunch of Unit 8200 startup companies, along with Peter Thiel, who we've been talking about.
And some of the other major investors and teammates are Microsoft and Cisco Systems.
And Cisco Systems is one of the companies that just teamed up with Carbine.
Ellison, right?
Oh, wait, no, that's Oracle.
Or ZSysco.
I can't remember now.
It's hard to keep them all straight, but don't worry about it.
Intel's over there, too.
Qualcomm's over there, too, with the 5G and all the chips and everything.
Right.
But going back to Team 8 for a second, the craziest thing about Team 8 recently is that they hired the ex-director of the NSA and of U.S. Cyber Command, Mike Rogers.
And that didn't get any mainstream coverage that this company that's all about promoting Israeli intelligence-linked startups hired the ex-head of the National Security Agency in Cyber Command.
And all of these ex-employees or current employees of the NSA spoke out and said the reason that teammate hired Mike Rogers was because of his knowledge of classified operations.
I mean, can you imagine if any other country did this and any other country's intelligence agency was doing this?
I mean, I feel like the media would cover it.
That's always the case.
That's the magic question.
Could you imagine if it was anybody else saying that or doing that?
Like, you know, there's a lot of double standards and hypocrisy going on here.
That's why we're getting upset about it.
We need to be angry.
We need to be yelling.
Right, Whitney?
Yeah.
Well, that's what I told Sam Tripoli.
Yeah.
Because he yells a lot.
And he should.
More people should be outraged by the fact that this is going on.
I mean, this is like a huge subversion of national security.
So, you're right.
And so much stuff about national security is the excuse that we're spoon-fed to justify taking away people's civil liberties.
They're like, oh, we have to do this for national security.
But at the same time, the same people saying that crap are just...
Just like, throwing our national security away to a foreign power, into foreign intelligence.
I mean, it's just insane at this point.
Like, the extent of this stuff.
Where does Al Schwimmer come in?
This guy is, he founded, uh, I, a...
I, yeah.
Israel Aircraft Industries.
Something else I wanted to mention is that, you know, you're such a powerhouse.
All these articles, like time and time again, I'm researching a topic and then I'll be searching for things and your article will pop up or it'll be a mint press.
And then I'll click on it just knowing it's going to be yours.
And boom, there it is, Whitney Webb every time.
And you've been doing interviews everywhere and just banging out these, not just like articles, You read them in two minutes.
These are like exposes, heavily documented.
Violating the Neutrality Act.
Yeah, so let's talk about Israel Aircraft Industries for a second, because their U.S. subsidiary is the company that was contracted by the U.S. government to build Trump's border wall, right?
So this is one of the border security Israeli companies we're talking about here.
So the first president of that is this guy, Al Schwimmer, and he was actually convicted in a U.S. court for dual loyalty, basically violating this Neutrality Act because he was smuggling aircraft parts and a bunch of other stuff to Israel during 1948, fighting with other Zionist paramilitaries.
And it was illegal to smuggle arms to them, but a bunch of people in the country.
the US did it, the Bronfman family and the Jewish mob, like Mayor Lansky, all those guys were really involved in the smuggling.
Robert Maxwell.
Yeah, but he wasn't in the U.S. But yeah, he was another guy involved.
And so this was one of the other guys.
And he ends up founding, becoming the first president of this company that he founded at the behest.
He was asked to create it by Shimon Peres, who later became prime minister of Israel and is Ehud Barak.
So what's really crazy, though, is that he was convicted of violating U.S. law to benefit Israel.
So for people that say dual loyalty doesn't exist, I would just point them to the case of Al Schwimmer.
It's a trope.
How did the courts, how did they convict him?
Well, so he didn't go to prison.
He just got his civil rights taken away, whatever that means.
And then he was pardoned in 2001 by Bill Clinton, who, of course, was spied on by Netanyahu, who got the Lewinsky tape or anyone else.
And the same time that he pardoned Mark Rich, who was this Mossad operative, he was charged with breaking the law in the 80s and was like a fugitive for a really long time and was the founder of Glencore and all of that.
And Clinton's pardon of him was super controversial, but he pardoned Mark Rich because he was pressured by a...
Apparently Ehud Barak screamed at Clinton in a meeting and telling him he had to pardon him.
And then Michael Steinhardt, some mega group people, got involved too.
So this is the other guy that Clinton pardoned during that time, this guy.
So that's pretty nuts.
Yeah, you know, also Arnon Milkan, the Hollywood producer, comes to mind.
He was involved with some type of arming and helping Israel.
All this is always going on.
We see the tech transfer happening right now more than ever, and they're just trying to suppress it all by saying it's a trope to say that we have any loyalty at all, if you have a problem with any of this happening.
Well, I just want to point out something about these tech startups, because obviously, if you want to be devil's advocate or whatever, you could be like, well, these are just private companies, and they have no connection to Israeli intelligence after they enter the private sector.
I would refer you to my article about all this stuff about Carbine and things like that because even Israeli media has, you know, published reports about how Israel blurs the line between their defense and intelligence apparatus and the country's cybersecurity sector and all these tech startups.
It basically talks about how Israelis, you know, the Mossad and military intelligence, they started outsourcing a lot of their activities that used to be done in-house to these private companies and that they would actually create a lot of these private companies for that purpose.
Remember, Black Cube also has its connections to Ehud Barak and is basically a privatized Mossad.
You know, they have their corporate side and they did stuff for, like, Harvey Weinstein, right?
But they also did stuff on behalf of Israeli politics, trying to blackmail all the people negotiating the nuclear deal with Iran, trying to find, you know, information on their, like, sex lives and their financial lives and anything they could use for blackmail as a way to try and discredit them and keep the nuclear deal from happening.
And also, there's a Black Cube connection to carbine.
One of the co-founders of Carbine, before she helped found that company, had worked for Black Cube.
And now she works for Eric Pence.
Blackwater.
Right.
Now it's, you know, again, it's like this small club.
Because remember, too, Eric Prince's sister is in the Trump administration and is tied into that neocon think tank.
American Enterprise Institute where John Bolton and Paul Wolfowitz and all these people are employed.
There's BlackRock and Blackstone as well, the two biggest investment companies.
And I think the leader of one of them is working with Trump's administration, if memory serves correct.
You mentioned blurring the lines between government and private companies.
Netanyahu, Netanyahu's plan to rule the world via tech, he literally says that, well, we saw what Silicon Valley did from the end.
That was all, you know, started by the NSA.
We got DARPA and Google and In-Q-Tel and all these startups.
Like, they're mirroring the exact same thing.
So he goes, we start Unit 8200 and now we find jobs for our Mossad people and go out and create connections.
And it's like, it's just all too obvious what's happening.
Yeah, well, he says that too at the CyberTech conference earlier this year.
He was, oh, well, what we got to do is, oh, I can pull up the direct quote.
Allow our graduates of our military and intelligence units to...
So there it is right there.
Paul Singer.
Paul Singer is this neocon donor who was like the big backer of Marco Rubio back in the last primary, Republican primary.
Now he's a Trump backer, has donated to Trump.
But back in 2012, he founded this organization with Netanyahu's economic advisor and the former head of Israel's National Economic Council, while Netanyahu was prime minister, spent like $20 million creating this organization called Startup Nation Central, with Startup Nation being his nickname for Israel.
And basically the whole purpose of that is to convince companies to invest in Israeli tech companies at the expense of other countries.
And since that organization was founded, a lot of these companies that have been sort of persuaded and incentivized To move jobs to Israel have cut a ton of American jobs.
I would encourage anyone to read that's interested to see more information about how many jobs have been lost and all of that to read that piece.
And also to look at in that article, I break down just like the extent of top management positions and companies like Microsoft, Google and Facebook that are now held by like X top intelligence people for Israel, which is just like insane.
Like a ton of top people at Microsoft, the guys in charge of like their whole cybersecurity unit and their cloud computing unit are both former unit 8200 guys.
And what's number two, Microsoft is a U.S. government contractor, not just for the military, but for some organizations as well.
And like what government agency doesn't use like Microsoft Office or Windows or something like that.
You know what I mean that come with like built in cybersecurity stuff.
Netanyahu openly says it's a government objective to get these people into positions of influence in the U.S. tech sector as a way of advancing Israeli policy.
He says he wants to do that so no one can boycott Israel and to make Israel the top, you know, cyber power in the world.
So, you know, this is being funded by Paul Singer in large part and also being done with some people who are also Americans, like Dan Sinor, who was one of the co-founders of this, was an advisor to Mitt Romney, co-founded the Foreign Policy Initiative with super, super duper neocons, Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan.
So that's pretty nuts.
And they're clearly doing this to benefit a foreign country at the experience.
No, no.
They're our greatest ally.
They would never do that.
No, but you can't even criticize.
They deserve it, Whitney.
Who better than them to guard the internet and guard the world from hackers?
They're the cybersecurity.
It's prophetic, okay?
The technology has to come from Jerusalem.
Well, their justification, though, their justification for saying we are best suited for that, it sounds really fascist when you read books about it.
Dan Sinor inspired the creation of this organization by writing this book called Startup Nation about Israel.
And there he says the reason...
That the startup sector, startup tech sector in Israel is so successful is because, you know, of how influential military service is in Israel and how people are forced to serve in the military and just how great it is to have your society dominated by, like, you know, the military and national security concerns and fear of being, you know, blown up or whatever.
He just talks about how great that is, and that's, like, so...
I mean, maybe it sounds great to a neocon like Dan Sinor, but no thanks.
They've got all the shows, too.
There's like three or four shows on Netflix just about Israeli spying in Mossad.
Wait, really?
I mean, I don't watch Netflix.
And I'm gonna be fried as a kite by then.
I miss the Fuhrer so much.
I miss my Reich.
Only for the rest In such a time Let's fight And I think it's gonna be a long,
long line Cause six gorillions gonna take some time I'm not the good boy they think I am at home 'Cause six gorillion's
gonna take some time.
I'm not the good boy they think I am at home.
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm an oven man.
All that night and the burning of the Jews are here alone All that night and the burning of the Jews are here alone Israel's not the best place to send your yitz.
The blood runs hot as hell.
Need an I am done to save them If you did guitar solo And all these ashes, where's the shovel man?
That's not my job, not mine.
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