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May 12, 2016 - Radio Free Nortwest - H.A. Covington
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It's May the 12th, 2016.
This is the Radio Free Northwest Call-In Show, and our first caller is Chris from London.
Chris, how are things over there in Blighty?
Well, it's about the same as usual, really.
We've just had an election.
We've had our first Muslim mayor being elected.
First Muslim mayor in a western capital.
Or any major western city, actually.
That is noteworthy.
That is historic.
In a negative sense.
I voted for Golding, who was the most anti-Islamic candidate.
When I say Islam, I don't really mean to attack Islam as per se, but attacking the kind of Arab culture.
Attacking the invaders.
Let's face it, they've got no business there.
I can say that.
You can't.
If you say that, you go to prison.
Which is a situation I still, even after all these years, have difficulty wrapping my minds around.
Maybe that's just the American in me, but the idea that you can actually go to prison.
For criticizing a government policy is the sort of thing you expect in communist countries.
Yeah, absolutely.
There was a guy recently, actually, I read in The Guardian, it was an issue on the 7th of May.
He hasn't been sent to prison, but he's been charged for some kind of incitement offense because he taught his dog how to do a Nazi salute.
Oh yeah, that was all over Drudge.
Yeah, the Nazi dog.
Now, that was in Scotland.
I assume that the hate laws are still more or less the same in Scotland as they are in England.
So he's looking at, what, seven years because his dog raised his paw on Facebook?
Potentially, yeah.
I'm not sure if that would count as the same kind of offense as, say, posting an anti-Semitic cartoon.
Joshua Bonehill got three years and four months in prison for posting a cartoon that they didn't even prove that he had created, but he posted it online on the blog.
And it consisted of a Photoshop of the Auschwitz concentration camp with a picture of a Jew in front of it.
And it said something like, let's go and have a demonstration in Golders Green.
It'll be a gas.
Or something like that.
Yeah.
Well, the Heretical 2 got, I think, either five or seven years for reposting a Robert Crumb cartoon.
Okay, I know that Brits aren't quite into Robert Crumb, but if you were over here in the 60s and the 70s, Robert Crumb was kind of your ultimate paradigm of hippy-dippy, drug-freak, San Francisco, free love, free everything, weirdness.
He was kind of like a folk icon or whatever.
He was the countercultures cartoonist.
Uh-huh, yeah.
So he's very well known over here, and the idea that someone could actually go to prison for posting a Robert Crumb cartoon, and as I recall that case, they never even proved that anybody in England downloaded or viewed the thing.
The only evidence they brought was one police officer who downloaded it for the purpose of prosecution, which is just...
I mean, you have to wonder, do these people who are bringing these prosecutions and whatnot understand that what they're doing is insane?
Well, according to what?
Their barrister, Adrian Davis, told me, court ruled that it was an offence even though it had been distributed from the United States.
I think it was because they sent it to the United States to be published there, but because they sent it to be published, that was offence in itself.
Well, the topic for today is how we can convert our own people to...
White nationalism, white separatism with a specific Northwest emphasis.
And of course, a lot of times you're going to have to do both.
You're going to have to racially awaken people and then point out the Northwest imperative as the solution.
That doesn't, I guess, really apply to your situation over there in England.
Just out of curiosity, Chris, have you ever actually seriously looked into the possibility of somehow making it through the maze of American immigration?
Oh, wait a minute.
Here we've got another caller coming in.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
This is Richard, and I'm in Florida.
Okay, let's see if we can get you into the conversation here, Richard.
Okay, we got you both.
That's it.
Yeah, it's a lot simpler than all that cooking.
Okay, Chris, are you still there?
I am.
Okay, you're on with Richard from Florida.
So we got two folks here now.
Where's Chris from?
Chris is from London, England.
Wow.
And...
We've got two guys, and the topic is how do we convert the muggles, as I call them, the completely officially non-racially aware whites, although I personally think all whites are at least to some degree racially aware by now, and how do we convert them to white nationalism in some form and the Northwest imperative in particular?
As I've mentioned, I was about to ask Chris, Chris, have you ever actually tried to get through the maze of American immigration and come over here?
I have actually looked into it, yeah.
The easiest route is actually through some kind of religious visa.
There are religious exemptions for people who want to come over and claim to chaplains and priests and vicars and that kind of stuff.
There's also the marriage route.
I mean, it is quite difficult if you haven't really got kind of really high skills.
Yeah, that is a general misnomer and misunderstanding.
A lot of people think that all you've got to do is marry an American and you're in like Flint.
Well, technically speaking, yes, if you're the spouse of an American citizen, you are entitled to United States residence, but...
It ain't automatic.
Remember the...
Well, we never got that far, but I went to the American Embassy in Dublin to try and see about getting my Irish wife and my children who were born in Ireland into the United States.
And while, yes, they were legally entitled to come here, Oh, God.
The bureaucracy is something like, for instance, there was one doctor in all of Ireland who was empowered legally to carry out a simple check for, like, TB, something like that, and he was backed up, like, two years.
I spent some time in Central America and Costa Rica and Nicaragua, and I met some folks out there who non-whites penis, basically, and they said it's very easy to get into America.
For non-whites, yes.
Well, especially now that Obama has abolished the southern border.
I think, for that matter, he's probably abolished all borders.
Okay, another call.
You're on Radio Freedom.
Hi, this is Lawrence from Montana.
Sorry about the wind.
That's all right.
Let me see if we can get you into conversation.
Okay, you are now in with Chris from London, England, and Richard from Florida, and our newest addition is Lawrence from Montana.
How are you doing, Lawrence?
I'm doing pretty well.
How about you guys?
Oh, well, rolling along.
Our topic for discussion for today is how we can convert non-racially aware whites to some form of racial awareness and white nationalism and the Northwest Imperative in particular.
Lawrence, if you're in Montana, if you're west of Interstate 15, you actually are already in the homeland.
Yes, indeed.
Whereabouts in Montana?
Yeah, here in, you know, beautiful Flathead Valley for the moment.
Probably going to be heading more out west.
Okay.
We've got a couple of fairly active people out in Montana, but I'm not as much in touch with them as I might be.
We're getting a lot of wind right now.
Yeah, we're getting a lot of wind noise, Lawrence.
How's things going out there in Montana?
California's getting quite a bit of that Californication that Colorado got.
You know, you get a lot of good genetic stock, white people, high empathy, and they tend to kind of ruin it for themselves.
It tracks a lot of Californians lately.
Oh, God.
God save us from the Californians discovering someplace in the Northwest.
Yeah, we need to build a wall against them.
Do for Kalispell what they did for Aspen and Vail.
We've got to come up with a final solution to the Californian problem.
When I was first here in Seattle about, like, 20 years ago, we had the same Californian thing.
It seemed like every third person you met in Seattle was born in California, and they'd come up here to escape all the diversity, although, of course, they'd never admit it.
I noticed something with the Californians.
You had to be very careful about politically incorrect conversation, couldn't, you know, badmouth the Clintons, too bad.
You could never, ever tell a nigger joke or a Jew joke.
No, no, no.
But Mexicans were fair game.
These otherwise totally liberal Californians, you say something, running down Mexicans, and they are with you 100%.
Okay, that reminds me of something I heard a lot when I first moved from the East Coast to California back in 1978.
There was a joke going around.
You heard it everywhere.
It goes like this.
What do you get when you cross a Mexican with a Vietnamese?
The answer is, a car thief who can't drive.
How's the weather out there in Montana?
It was a bit overcast today, but it's been beautiful.
You know, I'm used to New Jersey's kind of pollen and practically dying at this point in the year.
So, this is nice.
Richard, down in Florida.
It's a nice big jagged maggot there.
Richard, down in Florida, what are things like?
I imagine it's starting to get nice and hot and muggy down there.
Yeah, Harold, it's already too hot for me, and I'm looking to head north in a little while.
Yeah, Florida is getting worse.
They're, as a matter of fact, I'm selling out down here.
I'm going to close this month.
But they're building like crazy, and I see more and more of a strain on retired people living down here.
By a strain, I mean expenses.
They keep creeping up, creeping up.
Sustainability with the environment, they're just overbuilding.
So, you know, we're already drinking river water.
The next thing you know, the sewer systems will be dumping in the, after dark, will be dumping in the Gulf again.
It's done.
Florida, effectively, is a third-world country.
You've even got third-world wildlife down there, as well, the pythons and the Gambian rats and all that weird stuff, and monkeys and that sort of stuff.
Yeah, once you get off, when I travel down here, you get off the interstates, and you go into the hinterland, flax all over the place.
When you're on the coast, this town I'm living in, you don't see too many of them, but, well, you go north up around Tampa, and even further north, if you get off to get gas or something, they're all over the place.
So, It's over.
Okay, what ideas do you have, Richard, for approaching and converting other non-racial people to our point of view?
What do you think works best?
Well, I'll tell you, I don't have too much success at it.
Well, it's all the degrees of being aware.
But I find the best way that I try and make people aware is you've got to plant little seeds and see if they grow.
If you say too much, you scare them away.
Maybe it's just the circles I travel in, even within my own family.
And I think you've mentioned this before.
It's hard to convert somebody totally.
You've got to go little baby steps, little baby steps, you know.
And, of course, they're definitely afraid of being politically incorrect, even though they know it's right.
They know the logic's there.
They've seen it, but they don't want to go over to your side because they figure they're going to be ostracized or somehow they're going to be hurt.
It's tough to convert them.
And even if you try and do it politically through just not being aware how our country's being taken away from us, still, it doesn't seem to register.
But once in a while, you can get somebody that sees...
Clearly what you're saying.
And they see the logic.
And they see what's going on.
And it interests them.
And they get a little excited about it.
But I don't know.
They kind of like fall back to the same old existence.
You know, go along to get along.
Even to do something as simple as just snub them.
You don't have to kiss their ass.
When I lived up north, I used to go out on the weekends and the evening.
And you'd go to a watering hole or a place where there's music.
It's all white people.
Some nigger come in, they're controlling for white women, and they line up to kiss his ass.
I can't believe what goes on.
But I think we mentioned this before, this pathological altruism.
They want to be politically correct and show how politically correct they are and how much they're doing.
Yeah.
Chris, you've sent me some things about meetings in London and whatnot.
I'm surprised with the laws over there that you guys can have any get-togethers at all.
What do you find that works best for recruiting people and bringing them to a state of awareness if not getting them active?
What do you find works best over there?
What do you mean to get people to go to meetings?
Just get them to understand what's going on.
I'm not so much concerned about going to meetings, especially with all those little weird groups you got over there in England that none of them seem to be doing anything, but just as we constantly say in our little movement, wake people up just to get somebody to understand, just to see that little light bulb come on over their head.
The majority of people already do understand.
It's just that they don't want to do anything to endanger their own lives and their own careers.
Friendship networks to actually come out and be targeted by the regime and by the predominant cultural martyrs culture.
Well, over here, of course, we now have Donald Trump.
And as the left loons at Huffington Post and Salon and Daily Beast are screaming and howling in fear and rage, he has, to a large extent, made it acceptable for white people to speak out loud what they've been feeling in their hearts for a long time.
And I think, if nothing else, I mean, if his campaign were to end tomorrow, I think he would leave us that legacy because we would know that it's possible to speak out and not be destroyed and for the first time with Trump they're offered something that our tiny little movement could never offer them.
They're offered a big huge crowd to hide in.
They can go to a Trump rally and be surrounded by thousands of other white people.
We've never been able to provide that in our little movement, and occasionally we've come close with people like Glenn Miller's rallies, etc., etc., and I noticed the more people we can get, even in our little movement, to show their faces in public and march down the street, whatever, that does tend to have a reassuring effect, and once you can get past a certain tipping point, you actually can start bringing people in when they realize there's going to be a crowd to hide in, but Trump does that in spades, and so I think he's kind of lifted the lid off Pandora.
And it'll be very interesting to see what happens after Trump departs the scene, as I'm pretty sure he will do in one way or the other, what the system does to try and clamp the lid back down on Pandora's box and get white people cowed and beaten down and respectfully silent once again.
I don't know if they're going to be able to do it.
I don't think they're going to be able to clamp the lid down the way it was before.
I think you're right.
I think Donald Trump, just by his words and his fearless attack at political correctness, I think it emboldens people.
And I think if by some way, some method, they push him out, they eliminate him somehow, I think that it's going to be a big hole there.
And I think it's going to change people's minds.
I think they're going to act a little bit differently.
Maybe not all of them, but a good portion of them.
And he woke them up.
Well, the NF needs to fill that hole.
We are going to have to step in after Trump's fall.
Like I say, I'm sure that's going to come in one way or another.
And somehow or other, we're going to have to get to all these people who are enraged and grief-stricken and disappointed and confused now that they no longer have their Donald.
We're going to have to somehow access them, get through to them, and explain to them that, yes, there is an alternative, and it's the Northwest.
So this was supposed to be the topic.
We don't seem to have had as many callers as I had anticipated, but this was supposed to be the topic for the evening.
How do we do that?
How do we reach our own people as a whole and, let's say, disillusioned or disappointed Trump voters in particular?
Of course, now you know it's still possible he could do something like nominating a nigger to be his vice president or something, so no one really knows what he's going to do.
But how do we basically pick up the pieces when Trump goes down?
You know, Errol, one of the things I say to people, I don't get on to people that are unaware, that never heard of the Northwest Front.
In conversation, I'll bring it up, you know, how bad things are going.
And I mentioned, you know, there's an organization out in the Pacific Northwest.
They're trying to get a lot of white people to move out there to take control of the area and bring things back the way they should be.
So I think this whole, what we're talking about, I think that's a big appeal.
To people that maybe aren't totally racially aware, but they like the idea to go back the way things were with an all-white environment.
So that should entice people to come out.
But I find myself, I don't do it from a total racial aspect like, no, to get away from the niggers, to get away from the beaners.
I just say it's a nice area.
And the more people move out there, that's going to be a coming thing.
And I also bring up the balkanization of America, which is probably going to happen when you finally get a lot of clash between the different races.
So that's what I try and do.
Lawrence.
How's things going out there in Montana with you as far as activism goes?
How are you approaching your fellow Montanans, and how does it look for the possibility of bringing in the locals?
Because that's one of the things that we're always criticized for doing by our various, you know, internet contacts and whatnot.
Well, why aren't you just out there converting all the locals so we can just come on in and have a ready-made safety net and that sort of stuff?
How do the local people react to white nationalism and the general idea out there?
As I'm sure you know, I mentioned the part of Montana I'm in.
It's a very, you know, particular type of culture here, where you have quite a bit of that Californication.
You've got like two Starbucks now here.
You've kind of got a clash of cultures, even within the white people here.
You've got the mostly native Montanans who either fall into the Judeo-Christian category, although thankfully that's less common here than down south.
And then you have kind of the old school ones that have the right attitudes, the right tendencies, the right feelings and instincts towards things, but aren't racially aware, but could be talked, essentially.
And then you have a quite sizable proportion, especially of young people who are the typical Californian refugees, and among them quite a few non-whites as well.
Around here, I think it's certainly a mixed bag.
It'd be best to take what I would call the soft approach.
Where you're not necessarily going full 1488 race war now, but you're taking more of a positive, like, softer approach where you would say, look at how the media tells you that being white is, like, the greatest crime ever.
Look how all these anti-white professors are telling you you can't be proud of your heritage.
Isn't that bullshit?
Most native montanians, young, fiery men will agree, like, yeah, that's bullshit.
And you can kind of take it from there.
Yeah, one of the best quotes I've come across.
This was by a woman, a white woman, who, when challenged about how awful white people are and how everybody else builds civilization, she said, I'll take everything that's been invented by a white man, and you can have whatever's left.
Okay.
True, true.
In England, we've got a colonist called Casey Hopkins, who writes for the Mail.
She's often very politically incorrect, and she has been investigated by the police for some kind of hate charge, but she's never put in jail.
She's never incarcerated because she's part of the government media complex.
But if anyone tries to express the sentiments that she writes about in her columns, it can be very dangerous for them.
So our equivalent to Trump, I suppose, would be one of the equivalents would be Katie Hopkins.
But unlike in America, the people don't have the same right as the elites to express themselves.
I will tell you, for example, that I have a friend over in Europe who married an American woman and she voted for Obama in 2008 and now she's one of us.
And I would say what converted her were two things.
One is her Swedish nationalist husband and the other thing was when she started having children and she ended up homeschooling them because of the negative experiences.
With the school system and everything.
Just call them niggers.
It was her husband, my friend, claimed that, like Richard suggested, the gradual approach works best.
And trying to convert people, as Lawrence said, I think 1488 race war, you know, from wherever they are now, doesn't work well.
And I think based upon what the experts do, I think that's right.
You look at propaganda and how our society's been corrupted, and it's been a gradual process.
And I think that getting people aware of us and in support of us is also going to be a gradual process.
And although people like to badmouth Trump, I think Trump is part of that process, although he's not obviously the end of that process.
Well, I think one thing you could do when you think you've got a nibble, you've got someone who's in at least a somewhat possibly receptive frame of mind, is you can get them a business card or just give them the address of northwestfront.org, send them to the website.
We do have for people that...
We can send you things like leaflets and business cards.
I sent out a shipment of business cards to one of our guys in the homeland today, in fact.
So we can give you some propaganda aids, so to speak.
Or you can give them a Northwest novel.
What I've been doing over the last few years, whenever I've had a YouTube channel and I've uploaded loads of videos or speeches or something, I've always tried to advertise the Northwest front.
So it goes viral that way.
Because if a video or something attracts a quarter of a million viewers, it's only 1%.
See that northwestfront.org, that's still like 2,500.
I keep hoping some of ours will go viral, although I don't know.
I mean, like, I've got some of these videos that I put up in, like, 2011, and they're still on, and they'll have, like, about 12,000 hits in five years.
We just don't seem to be able to catch that viral strain or that wave or whatever it is, except when there are events like Dylann Roof going nuts with a gun.
And then we'll get a huge bump of hits on the website.
Like I think one day, I think the day after Dylann Roof did his thing, we got like 22,000 hits on the site.
But it was all, I guess, curiosity.
And we did get some people.
Now, don't get me wrong.
Well, I did get some fairly serious contacts from that incident, but not as many as you might think from all those hits.
A large part of the problem, I've said this on RFN, is that we were only covered in the violently left-wing media, and those people just, those outlets, I should say, just don't have the people reading them and getting their news from them that we want.
Everything has become polarized, including your news sources.
I would love for us to get some kind of major coverage on, say, the Rush Limbaugh show, Or maybe Sean Hannity or Bill O 'Reilly or someone like that.
But they are always very, very careful not mention us at all.
I mean, you think the ban on us from the left-wing media is heavy.
We simply are not mentioned by the conservatives at all because we're their competition and they know it.
We're their alternative and they know it.
And, you know, it's not much good getting 20,000 hits in a day.
19,999 of them are, you know, left-wing loons.
Okay, here, another caller.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
Ida Bro.
Oh, Ida Bro.
Okay.
Let's see if we can bring you into the conversation here.
How's things out there in potato land, Ida Bro?
Oh, things are going quite well.
Cloudy and rainy today, but weather's getting fine.
Flowers aren't...
birds aren't...
All right, yeah.
We've got three other people on here.
You're the fourth.
We've got Richard from Florida.
We've got Chris from London, England.
And we've got Lawrence from Montana.
And you have your co-host, Donald Welkin.
I don't know if you and Lawrence know each other.
You guys are, I think, just maybe close enough to where you would be within driving distance.
So the topic is how do we convert non-racially aware white people to a sense of white nationalism, a sense of white identity, and the Northwest Imperative in particular.
Ida Bro is getting fairly active out there.
How's things going with you, and how do you approach people out there?
Generally, I keep it fairly low-key.
I don't go in waving the flag or anything like that.
I generally talk to people for a while and scope them out to see if they'd be open to the idea.
So far, I haven't had a lot of success, but I'll look for things like Confederate flag bumper stickers on a car, as long as it's not some neglected junker or that or certain tattoos.
Keywords, things like that.
People about moving up here for demographic schools.
And you've just discussed this before.
Sort of the standard secret answer.
Sort of the I'm not racist, but kind of answers.
The code words.
Exactly it.
Dog whistles, as the left loons call them.
Yep.
Sorry, I was just going to ask.
In Idaho, I hear there's a bigger and bigger mestizo problem.
Have you ventured into those areas?
And if so, have you found attitudes changing at all?
I would not know about southern Idaho.
I'm in north Idaho, but they're fairly abundant up here.
I don't think I've seen anything big enough to pick you up and carry you in the woods yet.
Yeah, the mestizos are probably the largest immigration problem of all because they're not restricting themselves to just the southwest, although they've essentially swamped the southwest.
They're going all over North America.
I'm sorry, I thought you said mosquitoes and not mosquitoes.
Yeah, I wanted to make sure you knew that.
Yeah, I'm talking about beaners.
Mexican Central Americans.
Yeah, thick sweatbacks.
Okay.
Yeah.
Trouble.
So far in southern Idaho, you're going to have a lot more agriculture.
I know it's such, of course, where they belong to the farming.
There's a lot more cleaners there.
Up in north Idaho, not so much, but it seems like I can see a very slow trickle of muds in, and they're just...
It's going to be a non-stop march until he can take over everything, or at least they'll try.
Yeah.
But anywhere where people want cheap labor that they can pay under the table, there you'll find the beaners.
Well, I lived in Astoria for about three and a half years down on the coast of Oregon.
Nice place, almost totally predominantly white.
I would see maybe two black faces a week, and most of those came off these gambling riverboat things that came down from Portland.
But the thing is that even there, there was a substantial undercurrent or underclass of Mexicans, and they basically had come into town and taken all the entry-level jobs.
And Astoria was having the same problem that a lot of small towns all throughout the country are having, not just in the Northwest, when their young people graduated from high school if they weren't going on to college, and fewer and fewer white kids go on to college now.
There was just no jobs for them.
I mean, it used to be, back in the old days, if nothing else, you could start out working down on a loading dock somewhere or in the canneries.
Of course, the canneries were gone.
I think there was one cannery left going in that area.
And you could start at some humble position and you could work your way up.
But that's not possible anymore because all of the entry-level jobs in large parts of America including large parts of small-town America are being taken by these illegal immigrants and it's not just flipping burgers at McDonald's.
One of the largest One of the biggest immigration raids they ever had back when the ICE actually still enforced the law at all was at the Hormel plant in, I think it was either Denver or Aurora, Colorado, someplace like that.
And they got like about 400 of them at once.
And those were like $17, $18 an hour jobs on a packing line in a mink packing plant.
It's not just the stoop labor that ordinary Americans won't do, quote-unquote, that these people are taking.
They are taking over what is left of the industrial labor, of the mass agricultural labor, not just picking lettuces.
When I was in Centralia, Washington, they had a big project.
The federal government, in conjunction with the paper companies, was going up into the mountains and reforestating all of the areas that the paper companies had come along.
They cut down as a matter of policy.
Anytime they harvest an area, they will replant trees.
And there was this one temp labor agency that was handling this from the Centralia end.
And I went in to put in an application, and the woman behind the desk just told me flat out, no, I mean, look, we're only hiring Hispanics for this.
She didn't say outright illegals.
And I said, well, whose decision is that?
And she said, well, yeah, I know it sucks, but that's just, you know, what came down from the central office.
Hispanics only.
I don't know, maybe the government was doing this deliberately to make sure that they had jobs when they arrived or something.
Like I say, I'm not too big on conspiracy theories, but sometimes you just have to wonder what is the mentality behind some of this stuff.
The fact is the Beaners are everywhere, and unfortunately that includes the Northwest as well, and that's just one of the things we're going to have to correct when we get independence.
I was saying that I've also noticed too, and a lot of the construction companies know it's mostly white men, which is a surprise.
I know that central Washington has a lot of Beaners, like in the Tri-City areas, Kennewick.
Pasco and Yakima.
Yakima is a big agricultural area.
I can kind of see it in that area because they've got a lot of apple orchards.
I know they've got a lot of other agriculture in that area.
Actually, when I visited you, Harold, when I grew up across Washington, I went through, it wasn't through Wenatchee, but a couple of small towns through there.
And I could swear if I didn't know I was in Washington, I would have been from Columbia because I didn't see a single pale face there.
And these weren't light-skinned mosquitoes either.
These were sort of smorthy central and southern American.
If you're a young white man that's want to work construction nowadays...
It's a real pain in the ass, because anywhere you go, you'll be up to your neck in beaners who don't speak English, who can't do their work properly, and are just overall incompetent, yet they hire them in droves.
Well, if you throw enough manpower at it, it'll eventually get done.
Well, it depends on what you're doing.
Maybe in construction that works for small buildings, but when you do something that's more technically challenging, I think that falls apart.
Yeah, Don, you know you're right about that.
Yeah, I just did roofing for a bit.
That's my experience.
I was going to say, Don, you're right about that.
I remember my construction experience, the different trades on the jobs.
Very few black electricians.
A lot of blacks and Hispanics were laborers.
Carpenters, you had some, but they were more like helpers for a guy that knew what he was doing.
But you're right.
Just the physical aspect of it, yeah, they're there, but when it comes to any kind of brain power, nah, they don't have it.
Yeah, I worked in the aerospace industry before I retired, and it's dominated by white men and Asian men, and that's what it takes to get the job done.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, I worked on a plant one time for Samsung, and Samsung had, if you work in pairs, construction, you work in pairs, and they had...
This particular job, they had one of their people who was like a technician or an engineer or whatever, and he would oversee what every crew did to make sure it got done right.
I guess they didn't have too much faith in Americans.
But anyway, that's the way they did it to get their plan up.
I'd like to bring something up about getting people out there.
It's got to do with the school systems.
Maybe you guys can tell me, how are the school systems out there?
I think that would be an enticement to have people move to the Pacific Northwest.
If the education system, well, the fact that it's mostly white is a big plus.
But if the education systems were better, did the leftists get their votes?
Seattle and Portland city schools are atrocious because they are completely in the hands of the NEA and the politically correct crowd.
I don't know.
We have some people who do have some small children, some of them homeschool, some of them go to the public schools, but not in Seattle or Portland itself.
I would imagine that the schools in the smaller towns in the Northwest are probably a lot better, although I wouldn't know, not having small children myself.
I do know that a lot of our people, not just here, but everywhere homeschool their kids.
Wow.
I was just going to say, from what I can see here in Kalispell, the grade school is just lowly white.
I don't think I've even seen one non-white face, so that certainly looks promising.
Throughout most of the Northwest, the student body in the public schools is going to be mostly white.
I say again, outside these three or four urban areas, the Northwest is predominantly white, although, like I say, you are getting beaners in there.
But the question is, what kind of education are they being taught?
That I really couldn't tell you because I just don't have any experience with it.
I would imagine that a lot of political correctness is mandated from the Democrat bureaucrats in Olympia.
I will say I've seen quite a bit of Uyghur behavior, not just from people my own age, which is early 20s, but also from very young kids.
I like blasting rap music, like 10-year-olds.
Don't worry, though.
I told them about Moon Man, so I put them on the right track.
Well...
I have unfortunately noticed a bit of that behavior, too, around here, and I think they do it just because it's what's cool, it's what's hip, it's what they see on TV, to blast the jungle.
If they actually ever had actual encounters with niggers, I'm pretty sure they'd probably sing a different tune.
Well, these kids...
Especially in these rural areas all across the continent.
They watch these TV shows that come out of New York and Los Angeles.
And the left loon establishment is very much, I think the term is bi-coastal.
You've heard somebody say, well, he's bi-coastal.
He's in New York and Los Angeles, or sometimes maybe Washington, D.C. and San Francisco.
But the centers of power of the whole left-wing establishment are on both coasts.
And so they have created this culture, if you want to call it that, and they kind of impose it on the rest of the country.
You've got some kid in Idaho or rural Washington or Colorado or someplace like that, and they're looking at entertainment for five, six hours a day or however long they get away with watching TV, and it's all about New York.
Maybe LA and San Francisco and all these big cities and they have the idea that these big liberal cities are just full of all these wonderful things and people and all this lovely diversity and everyone's doing all this fascinating stuff and so that sort of shapes their idea of what the real world of liberalism in the urban environment is like.
And of course, if they ever actually did go to some of those cities and they saw what it's like, I think they'd get a different story.
But these liberal elites are imposing their whole worldview on a whole generation of white kids through the medium of the television.
That's why if I had kids right now, I frankly just wouldn't let them watch television at all.
I personally have not owned a TV themselves.
I've noticed that whenever I catch TV or commercials at a restaurant or a bar or anything like that, I could swear there's maybe only about 10% white people in all the commercials.
I see nothing but mud-colored people on there.
I haven't...
Go ahead, go ahead.
Yeah, I was just going to...
When you're talking about TV...
We got another caller.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with?
Keith from Missouri.
Okay, let's see if we can get you into the conversation here, Keith.
Great.
And we now have Keith from Missouri in with us.
Keith, you're in with the Ida Bro from Idaho, Lawrence from Montana, Chris from London, England, and Richard from Florida.
Keith, the topic for the day is how do we get non-racially aware white people to awaken racially to, in essence, realize who they are and then get them interested in the Northwest.
That is a heck of a question, isn't it?
I'm really looking forward to getting some pointers on this.
Most people I've talked to at first, I mean, I try to go real light, real light, and then they'll kind of act like you're crazy or look at you sideways, and then, you know, kind of the couple of guys that I've had will kind of warm up to you, and then you can kind of start a little bit more, give them the statistics about the crimes and the people that's in the prison.
And who's created the societies we live in, the successful countries in the world?
But yeah, that is a tough question, and I cannot wait.
Well, there is no answer.
My own personal experience, I don't think that I myself have ever converted from scratch a single white person, and I don't think I know anyone who ever actually did.
I find, frankly, that the niggers are our best recruiters.
The niggers and these people's own senses.
I think right now most white people, either they have a pretty fair idea of what's going on and why and who's responsible.
I think more so than we give them credit for.
I think we're seeing some of this coming out as part of the Trump campaign because all of this pounding away we've been doing on the internet and elsewhere for these past 40, 50 years, I think some of it may have had some effects.
Some of this knowledge may have seeped through.
But if nothing else, I think even your average white dope, insofar as such a person still exists, it's kind of hard to be a white person in America in these times and not understand that something is badly wrong.
But some of us don't know what, and I was talking earlier about the things that...
Kids grow up seeing on TV.
It's all New York or Los Angeles-centric, and it's basically television presents this fantasy world that doesn't really exist.
And I think enough people have daily contact with reality now so that they can tell that there is this big disconnect between what they see on television and the movies and what they are told by our political leaders life is like and what's really happening out in the real world.
They know something's wrong.
They know that they're being lied to because the things that they're hearing from on high are just simply not true, not anything to do with anything in the real world, especially in matters of race.
They, I think by now, understand that the political leadership in this country is not their friend and that government is, in fact, part of the problem and the enemy.
There's this feeling of malaise.
Now, the thing is, what we have to do is we have to get hold of these people and we have to point them in the right direction.
We have to explain to them the who, the how, the why, and so forth.
And, of course, the missing ingredient in all this is the juice.
I've got a question for you.
You take these wiggers and it seems like there's more and more of them every day.
These white guys that do everything in their power to be niggers.
They're more niggers than most of niggers.
Do you just walk away and don't even try with these guys or do you try to, are they worth the effort?
Some people are not worth the effort.
And if they're really far gone, it's best to keep your distance because your own reputation will be dirtied by association.
As far as these types go, I think it depends.
Like you said, how far along they are.
The ones that are completely, like, just in a nigger lifestyle, you know, obviously you can't do anything for.
But especially young men who are into ligger culture, who are overcompensating by dressing with the baggy pants, or the belt is, you know, tied around their thighs instead of around their waist, just looking like a complete idiot.
They're doing this out of a misguided sense of trying to be masculine.
Because the media constantly shows black rap thug culture is the only acceptable, like, cool sort of masculinity.
So if you give them an alternative, I find that's usually the best way at least to try to get them on a different track.
There has to be a certain receptiveness and you need to know that it's there before you even try.
I've got various little techniques I'll use to just drop a little hint and see if somebody picks up on it.
Make some comment about illegal aliens or probably not a good idea even to start with blacks.
Immigration is a sensitive topic because almost every white American is very uncomfortable, put it this way, with the whole immigration situation.
Yes, and as Harold said, Trump has opened the door to talking about certain subjects and being politically incorrect, and immigration is subject number one in that category.
Well, there's a good hook for you guys right there.
Just talk about Trump.
I mean, my God, he's in the news.
I mean, every day it's nothing but Trump, Trump, Trump.
It's not as if it's too much of a stretch to somehow work in a conversation on Trump or something Trump said.
I think you can probably tell how a person's mind is working as to how they react to the whole Trump candidacy Donald Trump, what's he done to be so identified with the white movement I mean, I like him, and I like his stance on building the wall and everything, but I agree with you 100% that he is not going to be the answer, and he's not the guy that most of us think he is.
But I do wonder how he's got this racist...
Oh, let me comment on that, because there's a straightforward answer to it.
One, he brought up immigration right at the beginning, and that's definitely a white nationalist issue.
Oh, yes.
It's a big one.
The other thing is, his slogan, Make America Great Again, Harkens back to white America and everybody knows it.
Everybody who's white knows it.
Donald Trump is the only candidate to speak about immigration as a problem.
All of the others just say, oh, well, we must welcome diversity and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, the whole problem with building the wall, though, the whole problem with building the wall is that it's essentially closing up the hen house after the foxes have gone, and there's already millions and millions of theaters in here, and you can't make a white America when it's filled with non-whites.
Yes.
Yeah, and one of his planks, I guess you'd call it, is to get rid of the 11 million, approximately, illegal aliens currently in the United States.
And after that's done, presumably you can work on getting rid of some others, or at least we can.
Well, we wouldn't even really need a wall.
All we would have to do is enforce existing law.
And what's happened in the past 18 months or so, especially since November the 20th, 2014, when Obama abolished the border, is that...
New caller.
New caller.
Okay.
Yeah, I was just about to say that in London, we're inundated with Eastern European migrants.
Other migrants, obviously, as well, but Eastern Europeans in particular.
And many of them seem like you can talk to them about racial issues and they won't freak out.
Gentlemen, again, I apologize like hell for that.
It's just, we're trying to do this with the equivalent of two tin cans and a string as far as the technology.
I look at some of these people like Red Ice TV and Alex Jones and I would give my bright whatever extremity you care to name to have that kind of professionalism.
But it's going to take space, it's going to take plant, it's going to take skilled people who are willing to devote massive amounts of their time and effort to this whole project, and frankly for that they're probably going to have to be paid, and we're just not anywhere near that, so basically we're kind of operating out of an outhouse here.
We finally, after a long time, have a little bit of something seeming to start up out there in the wild east.
And so...
Up here in the wild and woolly mountains.
Yeah, right.
The ball is very, very slowly rolling, but it is rolling.
And I'm hoping that me and our little team up here can get things going a little bit faster.
My idea was to have a group of migrants here in the homeland to pretty much square up and down on a stack of mine concept.
They would...
Call in at the beginning of the show and then make sure you hammer it into your mailing list that there will be people here to take your questions and then you can proceed with normal editing and putting it up as a separate podcast.
Okay, that's not a bad idea.
I think you mentioned it before.
Anytime you've got a good idea and you want me to move on it, no kidding, guys.
You have to ride my ass about it.
Send me an email about it every day in big capital letters in the header.
Harold, do what you said you were going to do because, as I've explained before, stuff has a tendency to slip down and down and down.
The email queue, kind of like an octopus trying to operate a phone exchange, but in the old style.
Anyway, ride me on that and make sure that I don't...
Alright, that sounds like a plan.
Maybe we should drag ourselves kicking and screaming back to the topic of waking people up, so to say.
How to do it.
I was on a roll, some kind of rant and rave when all that mess happened, and now I've completely forgotten what I was saying.
Well, I think we're also...
Talking about Trump and using Trump as a way to segue into white nationalism.
Yes.
That's a policy of a gradual approach.
That gives you an opening right there, because everybody is talking about Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
Well, I think what a lot of white people that secretly hold these feelings inside them, even if they don't know other ways to properly express it, they're...
Looking for, if you'll pardon the term, a safe space to open up about their evil, wicked feelings that they have inside.
And basically for confirmation, because when there's another person there, and especially if they're a functional, normal person like themselves, I can't quite think of the word right now, but it's a wonderful feeling to have.
It's a confirmation that they're not alone in the world.
They're not completely crazy.
That is why a lot of people get in touch with groups like ours.
I remember my own first feelings when I discovered that there was still an American Nazi Party.
I had thought it all fell apart after Commander Rockwell was killed.
That's what I've been reading in the various books and magazine articles I've been able to come up with in the public library.
This was in the days before the internet, of course.
And when I found out that the party still existed, and I set off a letter of inquiry, and they sent me just an ordinary intro pack, including a couple of copies of White Power.
And the first thing I did when I pulled the paper out of the envelope, I saw a big headline with a swastika on it, and the headline was, Kill Black Pigs.
And it was just an epiphany.
For the first time, I realized that I was not alone in the world, and that, yes, other people were seeing and understanding the same things that I was seeing, and it's an incredible feeling, and getting that feeling is one reason that people want to get to groups like ours.
Well, and with that, we're going to have to do a lot of this conversion up here in the Northwest face-to-face with people and not behind anonymous emails.
Yeah, absolutely.
Which is probably why you're having such a hard time getting people up here, is because it's all just this...
On this nebulous net, there's really no...
We're all pretty low-key, so we don't show our butts, so to say.
Right.
But if we get up here in groups and do it face-to-face, break these stereotypes that we have set against us, we will have a lot more success.
Yeah?
Yeah.
And I have been saying this same thing for years, and I don't want to say nobody's listening because a few people are.
The few people that do listen and the few people that do make this effort are helping immensely...
I would say that most of the people who have come up here, migrated up here, have done so because they did have some kind of personal contact.
Not necessarily that they knew somebody here or personal contact with me.
But it was because of some kind of personal experience that they had with another white nationalist or so forth.
Very seldom does somebody just simply pick up a Northwest novel and become madly converted, and then two weeks later he's landing on the tarmac at SeaTac Airport in Seattle.
Although, this last gentleman we had here...
Last week, the gentleman from the East Coast I mentioned on RFN, he was like that.
He read his first Northwest novel, and a month later, here he was.
He was just seized by the idea, and I think he's pretty sincere, and I think he's going to be back out here.
He did a scouting trip, and it was long, about 10 days.
Hi, Paul.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
You are breaking up again.
We can't understand you.
Is there a woman in the background there?
Not in my background.
Okay, so I hear a woman's voice on there.
She's coming through clearly.
You're not.
I'm sorry.
But I was more of an organic myself.
And I tried to contact the party before I landed in Ireland.
And somehow that's a shot.
Beamed up Scotty.
But I was nervous because I never had any other contacts with the nationals.
And the negative stereotype still held, but extremely surprised and very well pleased that all the people I have met so far have been very, very high BESA, Class A people that you're looking for.
It's just unfortunate we don't have a great big mass of them yet, but still they're up here.
Yes, I understand what you're saying.
I've had a similar experience, and when you look at the white nationalist women that I've met, they've all been exceptional, and that impressed me a lot.
I'd like to interject something here.
You know, I think...
Part of the reason people don't see the racial aspect of their lives, I think you're born with it.
I think your natural instincts are to want to be with, near, live with, interact with people of your own persuasion, be it race, family, whatever.
But there's a buzzword they use called the matrix.
And Harold mentioned before, conspiracy theory.
The white people are attacked on many fronts, and they're led away from their natural instincts.
That altruism is one of the things that's really hurting us.
I think if people would kind of like back up, like if you're lost somewhere, what do you do?
You go back to the starting point.
This isn't working for white people.
I've talked with people about this a few times in my lifetime.
We're not who we're born to be, our virtuosity.
We're changed every time we turn around.
And you know the worst part?
And I've brought up before about education.
Nobody's more protective than of your children.
But you know who we turn our children over to?
These fresh young minds, as Rush Limbaugh said one time.
Television, yeah.
Yeah, television.
I've seen three-year-old kids sit in front of a television watching that stupid Sesame Street for hours on end.
And then when they're most vulnerable and they can communicate, You put him in school, and God knows what's behind with what they're teaching him.
His political correctness has learned how to form a line, do what the teacher says, and it just goes on and on and on.
I mean, any wild animal, go try and go near their young and see what happens.
We've been brainwashed.
No wonder we can't get them to even realize that their race is slowly being withered away and we're being exterminated.
Can't see it.
I was actually blocked by my cousin.
Yeah, she is like a teenager.
At the time, she was like 15. I tried to show her evidence that the holohoax was fake, and I gave her a long list of links, and I've saved the conversation.
And, yeah, what she said to me was, I am not.
It's what I'm taught at school.
Also, I've been to Warsaw, where one of the biggest concentration camps were.
The others were blown up.
I've seen the shoes, the hotels, the gas chambers, everything to do with it.
Unless you've seen it, don't tell me it's not real, because it is.
It happened.
And that's just one of the things she told me when I was trying to convince her.
I gave her a huge list of web links to visit and books to read, and she just rejected the whole thing.
And she just said that her teachers had assured her that it was real and she'd been to Auschwitz and she'd seen the shoes and so on.
I tried to reason with her, but in the end she blocked me.
It was like a family breakdown.
Yeah, that's what they always do.
They will not argue facts.
Commander Rockwell pointed this out that when he was trying to convince people basically that Hitler was right and that National Socialism had a role in modern-day life and that certain things that National Socialism said were true, etc., etc., he pointed out that they would never, ever actually argue the facts or the evidence with him.
This is just ordinary people, lefts, Jews, whatever.
No one ever wants to actually debate the truth, or the facts, or ideas, or anything like that.
All they do is call you names.
And nowadays, as you say, they block you on the internet.
The goal is to have a conversation here to discuss facts there.
I'm very interested in debating the truth of the Holocaust, because it's one of the most...
Hello?
He's completely dropped out.
Well, he's still showing on board.
Iderborough, you still there?
I'm still here.
I'm sorry.
You completely dropped out as far as we could tell.
Okay, where did I leave off?
Something about the Holocaust.
Well, it's one of the most...
We cannot understand you.
Okay, well I'll just...
We still can't understand you right now.
You sound like Jimmy on South Park.
Sorry guys.
The connection is too bad.
We really cannot understand you at all.
Okay.
Stand by and listen then.
I apologize for this.
That's right.
Now look, everybody's having technical problems tonight.
Every now and then I come across a little snippet that might plant some seeds, like whenever I hear some idiot saying, well, Hitler wanted to conquer America, if I think that there might be any receptivity at all, I mean, the guy may have just nothing but pork fat between his ears, but if I think there's just any possibility at all that he might be slightly open to different ideas, and I say, well, really?
Hitler wanted to conquer America?
Now tell me something.
Where were his aircraft carriers?
You know, the German Navy had no aircraft carriers at all.
How are they going to launch a transatlantic invasion with no aircraft carriers?
Little things like that.
Eventually, if you do this long enough, you'll have a little store of them packed away that you can trot out at appropriate moments.
Just kind of little burning little embers to drop into a mine full of mush, and hopefully maybe one day the mush will catch fire.
Another thing about that is that Hitler, if anything, Hitler was a moderate.
When he interned the Jewish population and the other fifth columns in concentration camps, this was mainly as a result of national security policy that was carried out in the US.
It was the Japanese population.
Yeah.
Well, we did exactly the same thing, and of course...
I've seen the pictures of the concentration camps in the US where Japanese civilians were interned, and I compared them to the ones in Germany.
I swear they must have been built by the same architect.
I've seen a section of the town of Ramsey in the Isle of Man which was used for interned German civilians during both wars, World War I and World War II.
What the British did was just basically took over about a ten square block section of this little town in the Isle of Man and they fenced it off with concertina wire and whatnot and put all the Germans in normal houses.
I don't imagine it was too comfortable or sanitary.
I don't know how many of them there were.
You can still see some of the concrete posts there, little snippets of wire hanging out.
Well, put it this way, you could 30 years ago.
I don't know whether they're still there.
It's a fact that there were more racially mixed units in the Third Reich forces than in the U.S. forces.
This was the time before the end of segregation.
Yes.
At that time...
Germany had two Islamic SS divisions.
One was the Hanshahr Division and the other one was the Skanderbeg Division from Albania.
They had an Indian Fry Corps.
They had all kinds of multiracial units and integrated units in a way the US didn't have at that time.
I've seen a propaganda poster of the era that was produced in Germany at that time, and it's attacking the United States by depicting the US as a Ku Klux Klan member.
They were attacking the propaganda posters from the period that attacked the U.S. for treating blacks horribly.
You're saying the claim is bad?
What are you, Hitler?
Yeah, I think that's one of the biggest misconceptions that's put upon us is this thing with Hitler.
I do quite a bit of reading, and the conclusion I'm coming to, Hitler wasn't really a bad guy at all.
Churchill was worse.
Roosevelt was worse.
Stalin was a psychopath.
Oh, yeah.
Churchill was infinitely worse.
He was responsible, among other things, for the Lusitania.
And they forced Hitler into war.
He didn't want a war.
Matter of fact, this thing with Dunkirk, where he showed some good faith and let all those English soldiers go back across the Channel, he could have annihilated them.
He didn't.
The thing they said was the start of the Second World War was the invasion of Poland.
He was only taking back land to get to the Germans that were living.
They needed that Danzig card or through Poland to have access, I think it was to the Baltic, if I'm not mistaken.
The city of Danzig, yeah.
Yeah, he was forced into it.
And, of course, the Jews had taken over for Russia.
The communists, they were hungry after Germany, and he's fighting them off.
I don't think Hitler was a bad guy at all.
Gentlemen, we are now officially time expired.
It's been an hour and a half, although it seemed to go quite quickly with all the technical glitches and everything.
Does anyone have anything they want to add?
I want to.
Am I clear for now?
Yeah, for now.
Well, I wanted to add that all this discussion about whether Hitler was good or bad is all fine and dandy, but that all takes all very esoteric knowledge and takes a lot of study, introspection, and for converting white people.
I've noticed Americans tend to be very, very myopic, and that's the thing where you have to sit down there and explain everything to them and we'll lose them automatically.
And they're automatically conditioned generations of propaganda to reject this stuff out of hand.
Exactly.
This is one of the reasons that...
The NF does not use the swastika or, for that matter, any of these controversial symbols or the Confederate flag or whatever, is because one of the things I learned, finally, is that in order to win people over, you have to put yourself on a credible basis of communication with them.
And you can't do that by immediately confronting them with symbols and ideas that they have been conditioned from birth to reject.
Not only that, but these symbols are...
Symbols of other people and other times that really aren't applicable to us.
So I think we really need to stick to white Americans' immediate problems and immediate future, at least for now.
I just kind of, with using the symbols and attacking all these indoctrinated ideas, I kind of have the scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail of King Arthur and his group storming the French.
And that seems what it's been like for us for the past few decades.
Maybe we need the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, this is why the tricolor flag has just three simple colors on it, and there's nothing in the white field.
No crinkle jammers, no swastikas, no crosses, no Mosley lightning bolts, nothing like that, because it has to be kept simple for Americans.
The minute you have to stop and explain something to an American, you've lost him.
And one of my, what I was trying to say before I started breaking up with that, with things like the Holocaust denial and revisionism and all that, they'll shut you down, too, because with the racial enemy, the goal is not rational debate, argument, or discussion, or anything like that.
It's simply to destroy you.
Just destroy the enemy, yeah, okay.
And they're not going to give up one of their most potent weapons of propaganda.
Yeah.
Okay, gentlemen, anything else?
Yeah, I'd just like to say one thing.
I use Skype.
I think I come across pretty clear.
You might want to let it out that to get a Skype account is, I think I paid $9.84 for three months, and you could have great calling shows, maybe not as much breaking up.
Live in a more rural, mountainous part, so reception out here is not quite as good.
It kind of, one foot, one way, and you drop a call.
Yeah, so you can do video if you want, who you're talking to.
Pretty neat, and it's cheap.
Oh, to the guy who's got a problem with his cell phone, there is something...
I think they call them cell phone antennas, but they're really not antennas.
They are more like a lens, but you put this between the...
Cell phone and the cell phone tower, wherever it's located, and it increases your range tremendously.
Also, you can hook your cell phone into a hotspot and use Wi-Fi.
Oh, I think they're agnostic.
Anyway, guys, anything else on the topic?
If I could just recommend a pretty good book, actually, on the subject that goes into it quite a bit in depth, it's SJW's Always Live by Voxday.
I think you guys would really enjoy it.
It's a pretty good read.
It gives a lot of good tactical information for...
Debating and red-pilling people.
Again, that's SJW's Always Lie by Vox Day.
Real good book on debate.
Okay.
Well, gentlemen, thank you for calling, and we will get this edited as soon as we can and get it uploaded to the site.
Yep.
Thanks, Harold.
You guys have a good evening.
Good night.
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