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March 17, 2016 - Radio Free Nortwest - H.A. Covington
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And welcome to Radio Free Northwest, one of our call-in shows.
And it's March the 17th, 2016.
That's St. Patrick's Day.
I won't be playing any Irish music this time around because I already loaded up our last Radio Free Northwest with some Irish mellows.
But we have Andy Donner here in our studio with us today.
And we're going to be taking calls on the subject of the Donald Trump campaign.
And here we go.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
Keith?
Is this Keith from down in Oregon by any chance?
No, Keith in Missouri.
Oh, okay, that Keith, sorry.
Okay, welcome to Radio Free Northwest, and as I mentioned in the email, we're going to be talking about the Donald Trump campaign today, and we've got Andy Donner with us here in our studio, and so lay it on us.
What do you think about Trump and the whole scene, Keith?
Well, I'll tell you what, man.
Donald Trump, I've never been a fan of his.
I have always borderline despised him.
And when he started running for president, I was like, what a joke.
Well, we just had our primary in Missouri Tuesday, and I voted for Donald Trump.
I'd hate to call him the great white hope, but I think he's the great white hope.
He's not the great white hope, but he's a white hope, most definitely.
I've made my reservations about Trump fairly clear in the past on RFN.
I wish there was a lot more Huey Long and a lot less P.T. Barnum there, but Trump, possibly even unwittingly, can have an excellent effect on our two-party system, i.e.
he can break the whole thing up.
Isn't that the truth?
That's the most exciting thing about him.
They have tried to Sarah Palin him.
Both sides have tried to destroy him, and they've been very ineffective with it.
But the promising thing is that the more they try to destroy him, it seems like the stronger he is.
He's just immune to it all.
I kind of have this vision of him like, if you want to get biblical about it, Samson in the temple, pushing on the columns and bringing the whole pagan temple down on their ears, and that I think he could accomplish.
You may remember that Francis Fukuyama quote I opened A Distant Thunder with about that Japanese so-called political scientist who claimed in an essay some years ago that liberal democracy was the end of history.
And that it had beaten out monarchy and fascism and communism and all that sort of stuff, and we were going to be saddled with our present form of society and form of government just forever and ever and ever.
Well, I always thought that that was rubbish, and I think Trump can prove it.
whatever is going to follow Trump it's not going to be business as usual it's not going to be business as usual I had a few people I work with there and I told the line from you more or less we were talking about Trump and I said I'll tell you what I think the biggest thing we all like about Trump and it's subconscious And we've got another caller.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
Hi, this is Gertrude Morgan.
Hey, Gertrude.
Okay, pretty good.
Let me see if I can bring you into the conversation here.
We got Keith from Missouri on.
Gertrude, Keith, we were talking about the Donald Trump campaign.
Keith, you were saying...
I think you hit the nail on the head with the Donald Trump phenom is that white people are seeing other white people at the Trump rallies and whatnot stand up to black people and put them in their place.
And Trump is not worried about being PC.
He says what he wants to say, and then he doesn't scramble and apologize and just petrify that they're going to destroy him.
And that's admirable.
I think subconsciously we enjoy seeing that, even if we don't necessarily always agree with what he says, because sometimes he does say something that's kind of off the wall, kind of stupid or whatever.
And obviously his imminent delane stance where he thinks you ought to be able to take somebody's property to increase taxes with a bigger structure there, I don't agree with that at all.
But he doesn't back up and doesn't scramble and apologize constantly.
Gertrude, I should explain to our listeners that Gertrude and her family are some of our newer associates or comrades.
They were already resident in the Northwest when they came to us, and so welcome.
Right now we've got another call, so Gertrude, I apologize.
I'm going to have to do this again.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
Yeah, it's Richard.
I'm in Florida.
Okay.
Richard, let's see if we can get you into the conversation here.
We've got Richard from Florida, Gertrude from Oregon, Keith from Missouri, and Gertrude, how does the Trump campaign look from where you guys are?
Well, we live in the Willamette Valley here in Oregon, and pretty close to one of the most liberal bastions in Oregon, and strangely enough, there are a lot of Trump signs to be seen.
It's kind of interesting.
I don't want to actually give away your location, but I happen to know you are in one of the more liberal areas of Oregon, the type of area that gives Oregon its bad reputation, and I'm glad to hear that there's a lot of Trump signs in that particular neck of the woods.
I find that genuinely shocking.
As somebody that lives in Seattle, there's no Trump anything.
So, glad to hear something up here is going on.
You know, I'm no fan of Trump, and I never will be, but to hear that it's going on in one of the more liberal areas around here is absolutely fascinating.
I think when the general election comes, you're going to get a lot more Trump votes in Seattle than people might think.
Probably.
I'll tell you what, Harold, down here in Missouri here, I live with where the University of Missouri is, we have a lot of niggers down here, and you see them daggone Bernie Sanders signs everywhere.
Everywhere.
And that scares the crap out of me.
But you do see a few Trump signs, but those niggers, it seems like they all love Sanders in this college community down here.
That's interesting because the received wisdom is supposed to be that the Hildebeest has the black vote locked up.
She sure doesn't here.
And also, if you look at the Hildebeest there, you'll have a rally, and there'll be 3,000, 4,500.
The big one will be 1,200, 1,500.
Sanders has a rally, and there's 10,000, 20,000.
I'm sure they're stealing the numbers, just like Democrats are known for.
But here in Missouri, we just had our primary, and the Republicans' cards kept running out.
They ran out.
different counties they ran out everywhere and but they had all the excess of the Democrats so people get it's an open you can vote Democrat or Republican you don't have to belong to the party but so everybody was voting Republicans it's a real Keith, there in Missouri.
Andy Donner here.
Yes, sir.
I've heard your story on that, and I thought that was so cool, so awesome, man.
I admire you for doing it.
Thank you.
Well, I appreciate that.
I find that fascinating because, and it makes a certain amount of sense, the black population of Missouri has had a genuinely bad time.
Because I recall in Kansas City itself, the hood was creeping further and further west to the state line every year.
I was glad to have got out of there when I did, about four and a half years ago.
But there's not enough of a Hispanic population that the niggers in that area will be used to having their jobs taken.
So it's fascinating to see how much black support Trump actually gets.
Now, how long ago was it that you left?
It's been like three or five years, right?
It would have been late 2011.
Late 2011.
There's a lot more Hispanics now, and especially in the Kansas City area.
That doesn't surprise me.
There's a lot of Hispanics up there now.
In fact, I'm here in Columbia where the University of Missouri is, and we've got a pretty large Hispanic community.
It's ruined the construction around here.
That's all you see is Hispanics.
If you don't mind my asking on the Hispanics, you know, we had a hail storm a couple years ago, just wiped out a ton of roofs.
And you would see these people, the construction people with the chili shitters there, the Mexicans, and they would have 13, 15 on a single roof.
And even if they're paying them a third of what they paid the traditional white guy, how did they come out ahead on that?
Well, I don't totally understand some of the mathematics behind this.
Okay, guys, we've got another call.
Welcome to Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
Hey, Claudia.
Let me see if I can get you in here, into the conversation.
Okay, we now have four people in the conversation, including two ladies, which is something of a record.
We've got Keith from Missouri, Gertrude from Oregon, Richard from Florida, and Claudia from Connecticut.
Andy Donner is with us tonight, and Andy and Keith were going back and forth.
We'll get the rest of you guys in fairly quick here.
Alright, to continue answering Keith's question, Hispanics and Spics in the construction world and other similar businesses, it's very similar to the whole H-1B visa situation.
And an H-1B visa is...
It's not a skilled worker, necessarily.
That's how it's labeled.
But it's really just anybody with a college degree.
And we know from our experience in this country, those degrees aren't worth the paper they're printed on anymore.
I work in industries where the H-1B thing is more relevant than spics, necessarily.
And you're talking about gooks and wogs of various sorts.
And to answer your question about how businesses come out ahead, they don't actually.
What happens is a lot of bad middle management and bad senior management think, hey, I can save a few dollars over here on taxes or labor or salaries or benefits or whatever, but the actual work that comes out of those people is genuinely bad, and you end up having to pay Americans to fix it later.
So it's actually, to your point, they don't come out of head.
It's actually just, in the very, very short term, it looks like they spent less money.
If you were to do true cost analysis and amortize that over...
Opportunity cost.
Like, what did we lose for using these people and what did they actually cost us in the long run?
They don't.
And it makes sense that reality would exert itself and say, hey, economics actually mirrors race reality in that this is bad in the long run, it just seems okay in the short term.
I just got the intro pack, and I want to thank you.
Oh, okay, that key.
Yeah, I'm with you now.
I'm with you now.
Okay.
And I really appreciate that.
And I had an idea.
There was a, I think you call it pamphlet number one on the white race there.
It's a two-sided thing, and I ran off copies of that.
And I'm going to stuff that in with my bills when I pay my bills.
Good.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
Hello, Harold.
This is Don Welke.
I'm going to fight my way into this show.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Okay, let's see if we can get you in here.
Okay, we've got five folks now.
Richard, how's Trump doing down there in Florida?
I was just listening to what everybody's saying so I can get a fix on what the conversation's about.
Here in Florida, I'm on the West Coast.
Trump signs all over the place.
It seems, in my opinion, the population is older down here.
They kind of know the way the country should be.
I think that's why the popularity of Trump and, of course, Rubio, being the senator from the state, he didn't run a good campaign anyway.
And he's got plenty of baggage.
He's an anchor baby due to his mother-father being illegal and his association down in Miami with the gays.
So he's got some baggage.
So he didn't do so well.
Trump came out way ahead.
I didn't see too much talk about Bernie or Hillary down here.
Seems to be not too much excitement about them.
I'd like to add something to what Andy was saying about the spics, the Mexicans especially, and whether using them is efficient cost-wise.
Now, down here, there are some that you see in Home Depot and places like that.
But in construction down here, they seem to do very well.
And I'm from a construction background, and I watch when they put on roofs and stuff.
They're not bad workers.
Left to their own devices, they may skimp on things, but down here, they watch things pretty close.
So it's advantageous economically for contractors to use them.
I'll give you a little anecdote.
I used to live up north.
There was a fellow I ran across up there.
He was a roofing contractor.
And this is what he did.
He had a pickup truck.
And when he got a roofing job, he'd go to a local Home Depot where they let the illegals congregate, and he'd hire a couple of day laborers and go put a roof on.
And he would pay them $15 an hour cash.
Plus, their medical is non-existent.
They don't live very high, so they don't need a lot of money.
So for him, it's cost-effective.
But in a genuine environment where somebody has a legitimate company...
I kind of agree.
I think one of the main advantages of hiring these illegals for American businesses is not even so much the pay or the quality of the work or lack thereof.
It's the fact that you don't have to go through all the BS that you do if you're running a small business and you're trying to stay legal and keep all your paperwork and the benefits and all that sort of stuff.
And Obamacare alone!
Evading Obamacare requirements would probably make hiring illegals to some degree profitable.
Oh, yeah.
Can you imagine being on a roof and trying to control 20 chili shitters?
Yeah.
That would be pretty tough.
Well, we have one of our guys here who is a migrant, or I don't know, maybe I shouldn't use that word.
It's getting bad connotations.
He's a Northwest settler.
He came from Florida, and he had to run crews of Hispanics of various kinds in Florida, and with him it was very simple.
He learned to speak Spanish, period, because if he didn't, he couldn't work with these people, and he himself couldn't get a job.
I noticed that many years ago.
I've had other people tell me, if you live in Florida, south of maybe Orlando, and in certain areas, if you're not bilingual, you just don't work because you can't communicate with half the people you meet.
Greg is kicking and screaming back to the Trump campaign.
Claudia, how did Trump do up there in New England?
I don't think you've had a primary in Connecticut yet, have you?
No.
I've seen one Trump bumper sticker and many Bernie signs here in Connecticut.
Ah, well.
Not a surprise.
You're basically kind of I would imagine that the typical New Englander had to put up with Hillary Clinton in New York for so long that they kind of know what her deal is now, regardless of their political affiliations.
Did you see that deal?
If it wasn't for Hillary, the World Trade Centers there wouldn't have been rebuilt.
Bush said no, he wasn't going to do it, and then Hillary single-handedly went in and got the finances to rebuild all that.
I hadn't heard that.
That's what she claimed the other day.
Oh, wow.
Okay, well...
She claims all sorts of things.
Yeah.
She also claimed that she was under fire in Bosnia.
She claimed that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, being born, what, six years before he climbed Mount Everest?
Yes.
You gotta love her.
She's definitely got a set of balls that are brass, that's for sure.
Well, those are Bill Clinton's.
You know that Rush Limbaugh joke that Hillary has his balls locked up in a lockbox somewhere?
That's...
Probably what's going on there.
Gertrude, again, this is maybe a little bit off our Trump topic, but how do you like the homeland so far, you and your family?
Well, we've been here for five years now.
Oh, okay.
I thought you were a bit more recent, but go ahead.
Well, no, we were just recent to this particular area.
We lived on the coast at first.
What caused us to move was the funniest thing.
We'd come up to Oregon on vacation.
We were from California originally, and we went into a Fred Meyer store, and they had a big gun counter, and I thought my husband was going to have a breakdown at the gun counter because there were so many guns, and they were so beautiful, and they had everything that California didn't allow, and there was no waiting, and you could basically purchase the gun and 15 minutes later walk out the door with it.
Well, I think California's gone completely insane.
And he turned and looked at me and said, we have to leave.
You got a good man there, Gertrude.
Hang on to him.
Oh, yeah.
He's fabulous.
Yeah, today is actually our 27th anniversary.
Well, congratulations.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
That's admirable.
That's great to see the white couples there having white kids and liking guns and being in the homeland.
God bless you guys.
Indeed.
I'd like to ask a question, sort of a consensus about Trump.
I noticed he started off, a lot of people had a lot of hate for him, and being I'm speaking to people who have a white nationalist bent, how are people feeling about him now?
I seem to think he's come a long way, and he looks more like what we need than I saw before.
The reaction I'm getting basically from, of course, via the internet, mostly from our people all across the country, is that a few of them have just drunk the Kool-Aid full and we've got another call coming in.
Welcome to Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
Hello, this is Paul Hopkins from West Virginia.
Yes, Paul.
Let's see if we can get you into the conversation here.
Okay, we now have Paul from West Virginia as well with us.
Paul, I was explaining to Richard from Florida, who's also with us here, how our NF list of contacts is kind of reacting to the Trump thing.
And a few of them have plain, flat-out, drunk the Trump Kool-Aid.
Not many of them, but there are some who've just decided that this is it.
Donald Trump is going to be our savior, and thank God we don't have to move now, because President Trump is going to come along and save us all.
Now, I should also say that these are not exactly the most politically and intellectually divisive of our people, and I'm not too surprised at this reaction.
Most people, I think, and not just in my circle of contacts, but in white nationalism as a whole, do maintain a certain level of healthy skepticism as to exactly how much good Trump as president could accomplish.
I personally think that as far as actually resolving the whole situation and bringing back the 1950s or anything like that, no, he's not going to be able to do that.
I don't think any American president could because the system is just too far gone.
We're talking about a corpse that's on life support and the only question is when the plug is going to be pulled.
There are a lot of people who, like me, believe that the net result of Trump's campaign can be nothing but good because it is going to severely damage and maybe even smash to pieces the present two-party system.
And also, he is going to liberate the white majority in this country and free us to stand up and speak our minds.
We have been just so cowed and beaten down and shouted down and intimidated and cyber-shamed by these Weirdos, social justice warriors with their Twitters and all that sort of stuff, that for years, white people have been afraid to open their mouths.
Well, now, after Trump, at least, whatever the result may be, we will be much more free to stand up and speak our minds.
And that alone is worth it.
When you first started, I was going to disagree and say, I look at it differently, but what you've just said, I'm more or less right in line with you.
I don't expect them to be a savior and turn things around.
But he's not going to be a continuation of what's going on.
And I think the more you can bring this government down by conflict, and he's kind of relieved us a little bit from this political correctness and made people see the light.
I think whether Trump makes it as president, whether he doesn't make it, I think he's changed the American psyche forever because people are starting to wake up, some to more degree than others.
But he started us on the road.
If he wins, that's better yet.
He'll create enough turmoil there in Washington that maybe some others will stand up.
Maybe we will get a little bit of a wave of resistance to the establishment.
So I think he's a good thing.
But again, I got to say, I don't think it's time to say, well, everything is going to go back to normal.
I don't think so.
Nothing is ever going to go back to normal, as you and I understand the term, Richard.
You and me and Don, this is a little bit getting into what I said in the last RFN about these call-in shows, maybe all the old guys getting together and reminiscing, but let's face it.
We remember what it was like, and we have to remember that the vast majority of our people do not.
Actually, I especially find that very upsetting.
I was just thinking about this today because I never quite got on with people my own age.
I was always having adult conversations with my parents' friends as a child and doing so quite successfully.
And I am the youngest person I know of that actually had significant contact with their grandparents and great-grandparents growing up.
So that I actually have some remnant of a living memory of what it used to be like.
And I'm the only person my age that I know of with that.
I have to tell you an experience that I had recently, about a week ago.
I was in a grocery store at the checkout line, and I was talking with this older woman who's kind of sort of my age, and the checkout girl, who's in her mid-twenties, listened in, and she said that her generation lost out, she thought, because she keeps hearing this from people my age and even someone younger about how things used to be,
and she listens to it, and she thinks, that makes sense, that's the way it should be, and she thinks that what we have, no, like the technology, No, no, no.
That actually makes total sense.
I actually want to riff on that because I didn't even have a cell phone until well after I was outside of college.
I'd left university and hadn't had a cell phone.
And my family barely had cable internet for a couple years before that.
And I was away at school.
My family was a late adopter of everything.
I'm what I refer to as Luddite because the technology, I grew up without it.
And I was perfectly fine.
One of the issues that came up with talking to her was this thing about knives, and I pulled out my little pocket knife, which I have right here and you're looking at, and I told her that when I was in elementary school, I carried one of these in my pocket, and because when I was in the Boy Scouts, they told us, you should always have your knife with you because a boy never knows when he might need his knife.
And she jumped over that and said, that was great, you know, it didn't make so much sense.
And today is just so insane.
And then I told her, when I was in high school, we had rifles, Don, I need you to put that deadly weapon away.
You're triggering me right now.
I'm sorry, I had to.
Okay, guys, we've got another call coming in here.
Welcome to Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
Oh, I believe I'll go by my secret squirrel name of eyebrow.
Oh, Idabro!
Hey, Idabro!
Andy Donner here.
Okay, now we've got Idabro from Idaho on the phone.
We just lapsed into old men around the Cracker Barrel and the Country Store, but I will wrestle the topic back to the Trump campaign.
Idabro, how is Trump looking up there in Idaho?
Have you guys had a primary yet?
Yes, we have had a primary, and it was taken by Ted Cruz.
I believe Trump only got about 20% or so of the vote.
Actually, Idaho is living refutation of this idea that the Northwest is supposed to be liberal.
Idaho is as red as a London double-decker bus in the American blue-red dichotomy, and actually it's run by Republicans, and the establishment in Idaho is Republican, and so forth and so on.
I find it interesting that Cruz would get Idaho.
There's a big evangelical base out there.
And that's kind of what Cruz was going for this whole time.
And it's really upsetting, because I've talked about my background having been brought up religious, and it's kind of just not my thing anymore.
But as I was becoming racially aware and more politically aware, I always despised the Republican Party.
I was raised Republican, but I hate that neocons would always pull out this, you better vote for me or else you don't love Jesus thing, because they would always demand the votes of churchgoers and then do really heinous things with those votes.
And I'm genuinely upset that the church-going population, as much as I'm pro-religion in general and I don't have a religious beef with anybody, I'm very, very upset at this election specifically that the church-going population isn't smarter than that this time around.
Paul, from West Virginia, have you guys had a primary?
And if so, how did it go with Trump?
As far as I know, there's no primary here yet.
Yeah, I shouldn't say this.
Maybe I don't want to discourage people, but I don't vote.
I know there's not yet a primary here.
To vote Hillary Clinton, what difference does it make?
It's like the little old lady from Vermont allegedly said, I never vote.
It only encourages them.
Well, that's true.
That's what I think he is all about.
You see people stop voting, and that's a lot of money they do.
The children of God make a lot of money, the voting cycle.
And you have to have people interested.
I've given plenty of money, I'll show you.
Since George Wallace gave me a square foot of Edouard County in 1968 to 2008, I voted.
I helped them with all I could, but I am too disillusioned now.
That was my first introduction into the white racial movement, the George Wallace for President campaign, 1968.
I was 14 years old and dumb enough to walk my first day in my new integrated high school.
Walked in the door with the George Wallace for President button.
Things deteriorated from there over the next three years.
One thing that has very, very much amused me, people might have seen this on the internet with the meme that's going around where there's no photoshopping even, there's just a picture of Mussolini and a picture of Trump, and that's being quoted as an example of proof of reincarnation.
And the similarity is actually shocking, but...
No, he's not.
But the comparison to George Wallace has tickled me pink for two weeks solid.
Well, that's worth discussing, actually.
You're totally right.
He doesn't know, but for decades, anybody that was at all politically cynical would tell their friends to just pray for gridlock because that's the best we can hope for.
We might actually get gridlock with a President Trump because the Democrats and the Republicans in the legislature would be unified in trying to stop anything he did.
So in a very, very sick and cynical way, as much as Trump is probably our enemy in the long run, it may very well be the case that in the short run, he gives us gridlock, which is better than what would have happened with any other president.
Well, anything that causes the present system to break down is all to the good.
Yes, definitely.
Freaking George Soros, but I guess he actually lived in Germany at one time, didn't he?
I think Soros is a Hungarian originally.
Hungarian.
Oh, okay.
He's a piece of shit, whatever he is.
With Branton.
Well, no, I don't think we have George Soros calling.
If he does, I'll hit him up for a donation.
You ever want to hear an actual Yiddish Jewish accent?
Go to YouTube and look up some routines by a comedian named Jackie Mason.
That's the Yiddish...
Oy vey!
You ever want to hear the Yiddish accent?
That's the Yiddish accent, I tell you!
So that's a deal I'm making you.
I'll be damned.
Actually, if you can get around the obnoxious sound of his voice and you're into Jewish humor, he's pretty funny because he makes a lot of his jokes about Jews.
The interesting thing about Jews, they're very self-obsessed.
Even when they're doing their comedy routines, they're mostly talking about themselves.
I think a few months ago on Radio Free Northwest, I told a few Jewish jokes and I was compelled to promise I would never do it again.
Everything to the Jew is about the Jew.
They genuinely believe that they are the center of the universe.
The difference in attitude between Jews and any Gentile, but especially a genuinely advanced and emotionally and psychologically and culturally developed nation like the Germans, is such that you can just tell after two or three minutes conversation the difference.
It's hard to describe, but if you've ever dealt with both, believe me, it can be done.
Now, who else has some Trump material, since that's supposed to be the topic for the evening?
I have a question about Trump.
People are saying that his wife is a former porn star.
Is there any truth to that?
No.
I don't think so.
What happened is she was a model and she did some nude posing early on.
And some of it may be considered pornographic, but it wasn't the videos of the sex act going at it or anything.
It's more like erotic photography.
Well, one thing I have learned, we live in an increasingly coarse and vulgar society.
And things have gotten to the point where you're going to have almost nobody in public office or in the public eye who doesn't have some sort of weird mess in his closet someplace.
A lot of stuff also you're going to get thrown at Trump that just plain isn't true.
Yeah, Trump's got some skeletons in his closet, bankruptcies and all that sort of stuff, and some of his financial jiggery-pokery, and they say he's hired illegals for his various enterprises.
I mean, my God, you show me a billionaire who hasn't.
I never used to get this going after politicians for hiring illegals as nannies and gardeners in Washington, D.C. I mean, show me any of these people who hasn't done that, Republican or Democrat.
It's part of the culture.
It's part of the new way of life, quietly ignoring the law for your personal and financial benefit.
Everybody does it.
And we live in a completely corrupt society.
You're just not going to find beaver cleaver anywhere in public office or out of it.
That's one thing that these filthy Jews have succeeded in doing down through the generations.
They have pretty much destroyed normal.
And when we obtain our own sovereign homeland here in the Northwest, and we start building the Northwest Republic, We are going to have to reconstruct normal almost from the ground up because by then, most of these old codgers like me and Don and some of the rest of you guys who remember what it was like aren't going to be around anymore.
It's almost like you're going to have to go back to the annals of history and watch old reruns of Leave it the Beaver or something just to figure out and remember what life should be like.
One thing with Trump, also you have to bear in mind, they're going to throw everything at him in the kitchen sink.
And I'm not expecting Trump to be perfect.
I have not drunk the Trump Kool-Aid.
He does have some things which give me pause.
Apparently, one of his daughters converted to Judaism and is married to a Jew, and that's real.
It bothers me, but I'm looking at Trump not so much as a savior, but as a phenomenon.
I'm looking at Trump for what he can do, what he can accomplish by way of bringing down this entire Rotten, corrupt edifice of liberal democracy in this country.
And on that note, I'm interrupting so that Don can get a word in edgewise here.
Don actually mentioned something to me right before we started the program here, and that was the issue of threats of violence against Trump and Trump supporters.
And Don, you might want to expand on that.
Well, there's not a whole lot to expand on, except that it's out there, and it appears to be tolerated, which is just so blatantly obviously a double standard.
I don't know what to say about that, except that it kind of shows that we're no longer a nation of laws that haven't been probably for a long, long, long, long time, and this just underscores it, and it makes it...
Again, blatantly obvious, and one of the things that the Trump campaign is doing is making these hypocrisies and other things that were not talked about and maybe even not noticed very much.
It makes them blatantly obvious to a lot of people, to most people, and I think that's one of the benefits of his campaign.
I've been on Twitter for about six weeks now, and there have been at least a dozen instances where various Twitter contacts I have have pointed out certain so-called social justice warriors and left-wingers and niggers and loons of various kinds.
posting to their Twitter account, "Trump's gonna be in such and such a place and I'm gonna go kill him, I'm gonna take one for the team guys, I'm gonna bring down Trump." And so far as anyone can tell, nothing is being done about this.
Now can you imagine what would happen if I were to go on my Twitter account and say, "Hey, I think I'm gonna go waste Hillary Clinton tomorrow at a rally at such and such." I'd have the FBI and kicking in my door that night.
Note to law enforcement agencies, that was a hypothetical.
Yeah, right.
Legal disclaimer over.
Right.
Unless anybody else has thoughts, I would like to discuss the way the alt-right is reacting to Trump, because I find it very interesting.
By the way, I'm just getting into this myself.
Apparently, a lot of the Trump thing and anti-Trump thing is now being conducted on the so-called social media, and I have always avoided that.
I had a Facebook page a few years ago, and...
Zuckerberg the Jew kept canceling it.
After about the third time, I just quit.
Didn't bother me.
There's no point in my having one.
I mean, I've got one under a false name, obviously, so I can keep up with what goes on on Facebook.
I just got on Twitter for about six weeks ago, and apparently the entire internet world of white nationalism is referred to as alt.right.
So I'm just getting into that.
I can see, in theory, how it would be valuable as a means of communication, since some of these guys have tens of thousands of followers.
Ramsey Paul, I think, has about 30,000 followers, something like that.
And he's actually quite active, too.
Yeah, he is.
It's not totally useless, but then again, we're not going to bring down the Babylon with Twitters or Tweets.
It should be noted, too, that this all right tends to be significantly younger than the other, I guess you could call them the old guard or frequent other forums.
Which is a good thing, I think.
It is.
There's a certain amount of overlap, actually a very significant overlap, between what might be considered alt-right and what might be considered white nationalism proper.
Now the alt-right, on one level, it's a trend of not-quite-Marxist.
When I say not quite Marxist, I mean because everything below a certain age level these days is Marxist, outright.
Anybody that's been able to just reject that kind of falls in the alt-right by definition, only because conservatives in the Republican Party are so far left at this point that they're liberals from the 70s.
So the alt-right tends to be comprised of people that do not want the political right in America to act like liberals.
Which is a good thing to begin with.
Now, as mentioned, it is very much younger.
And we're talking kids in their early 20s, sometimes as young as 17 or 18, but early 20s people that, in some cases, outright embrace various types of fascism.
And proudly so.
I have to say that I've been asking for years for people to tell me where do the young white people hang out on the Internet so we can reach them, because the Internet is the only medium of mass communication we have.
Apparently, this is where, and already, I have gotten some inquiries and people asking for introductory packets for the NF off of this Twitter account I've had for six weeks.
And of course, now when somebody hears this, me talking about this on the air, they'll probably go and cancel my Twitter account.
But I have to say, it does seem to be working.
It's much more topical and much better than Facebook.
Well, I have been recently informed that I am, in fact, Andy Downer.
And I almost don't want to be a downer here because we've got all these people listening and it's great to have been able to talk to all of you live in real time.
I will limit my downer comments, but there's a trend among white nationalism pre-alt-right to do whatever can be done, here I go, I'm on the soapbox, to do whatever can be done to actually avoid dealing with the underlying problems, which, obviously, you're here so you know about the Butler Plan,
but a lot of the alt-right, it seems to be the same thing, where they want to latch onto anything that will allow them to avoid having to do anything on their own, let alone risky or anything like that, but the A Okay, we've got another call coming in, guys.
Oh, man.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with?
Hey, Harold.
This is Phillip from Oregon.
Hey, Phil.
Great.
Okay, and we have Phillip from Oregon on now.
Okay, we've got two folks from Oregon.
We've got one from Idaho, Connecticut, Missouri, Florida, and West Virginia.
And three guys from Washington.
So, that's a pretty good little get-together tonight.
Apologies to Phil, I'll just wrap my thoughts up real quick and let him say what he's got to say.
But basically, what's going on is this: My earliest memories of actual politics were right around the whole Clinton-Lewinsky scandal and all of that stuff.
So that was relatively young in my barely even teenage life at that point.
And so I've actually paid attention to politics to have seen a number of election cycles, and I've more or less gotten all of that out of my system.
But a lot of my concern with the alt-right crowd is that they haven't.
It's a lot of people that weren't previously political, but are just outright disgusted and have found some place on the internet to talk to people who are not screwed up cultural Marxists.
And there's an awful lot of, I don't want to come down on them because they don't know better, and I shouldn't expect them to know better.
because of their relative age, but there's an awful lot of grasping to anything that they can that somebody else make the problem go away.
And I wish...
That I could come up with a way to help accelerate that.
We need to speed up the learning curve.
Definitely.
That's my main concern with white nationalism in general, and the alt-right in particular, is how do we catch everybody up to speed as much as we can?
But anyway, go ahead.
Phil.
Phil.
Think about the fact that they're angry, fatherless boys.
This whole coterie of alt-right young men.
They're angry, fatherless guys who have no one to mirror what manhood actually looks like to them.
That's why they're coalescing around Trump, because at least it's something.
At least he's alpha.
There's a huge then-diagram overlay of the alt-right and the pickup artists and the men's rights activists all circling around this entire idea of what manhood looks like right now.
And that's the impression that I get.
I'm on social media and I follow the alt-right.
And they're all angry young guys with no dads.
That makes a certain amount of sense, actually.
Yeah.
Most young white males these days, I have to say, are largely angry young white men with no dads.
Is this Gertrude, by the way?
Yes, it is.
Okay, you sounded a little bit like Claudia on there.
We have two ladies on tonight.
I'd like to make a comment to what Gertrude said.
I read a book years ago called Iron John by a guy named Bly.
The gist of the book was that the key that unlocks your manhood is under your mother's pillow.
The thing is, when a man reaches a certain age, puberty, the mother leaves, the father takes over, teaches him how to be a man.
Now to go to Gertrude's point...
I think these lost souls, these young males that are really lost souls, they don't know who they are or what they're supposed to be, and their fathers suffered under the same conditions.
So what happens in these cases is they become more feminized because if the father's not there to take the child, the mother takes over and more of the mother's influence.
Gertrude's exactly right.
Somebody's got to take these young men and show them how to be men.
Of course, and he used to be back in the day, for most of the many millennia of our race's development, a young man became a man at the age of 14, 15 or so when he became physically and sexually mature, but he also went through certain rites of passage, in many cases involving warfare.
This was in pre-gunpowder days, so you had to get up close and personal and kill your enemies, tribal or whatever, if you weren't waging war in order to And with the primitive agriculture of the time, you had to work like a dog for 14 hours a day out in the fields.
Failing that, you had to go out and you had to hunt.
You had to be clever and stalk animals and kill animals in order to take them back to your hut or your cabin, whatever you had, in order to feed your wife and your children.
And so responsibility, in a very active sense, was thrust on young males at a very early age in those days because that was the way life was.
It's like that old rock song from the '70s said, "My heart keeps telling me you're not a kid at 33." There is nothing wrong with a kind of environment or society where a young male becomes a man at the age of about 16 or so.
This is what the Republic is going to have to aim for when we do finally get our homeland here in the Northwest.
We're going to have to create a society specifically designed for certain social tasks.
Call it social engineering, if you will, but one of those will be that young males have to become men, responsible adults at a very young age.
This, of course, is one of the reasons that national service and military service for young men is so essential, not only just to defend the country against the various people who are going to be trying to kill us, but also so that they can become men.
men of my generation can tell you there's nothing like a hitch in the army to make you grow up fast there's nothing like just doing some simple everyday work and being responsible for yourself young boys get around I have a couple things to say to add to this.
You're right, and you're talking about the social engineering aspect of things.
I think single motherhood is one of those that really hurts young boys.
Hurts everybody, but definitely hurts young boys.
There's also, however, in addition to the political, social, psychological conditioning and whatnot, there is the physical, the biological side to it, and that is that the food quality and the pollution of our food and pesticides and herbicides and GMOs and things like that have hurt everybody, but it's hurt men.
It's hurt boys.
It's a medical fact that the sperm count has been declining and declining decade after decade.
That's an indication of a sexual problem and that goes to the heart of what we're talking about here.
What you're talking about is called xenoestrogen.
It's in the fertilizers and anything that's grown commercially with commercial artificial fertilizers has xenoestrogen and I think it's a very real thing that the young men have become feminized.
There's so much transgender weirdness out there.
There's so much estrogen floating around in the water supply.
People say that when you've got all women excreting their birth control pill estrogen into the water supply, there's no telling that that's actually coming out.
So yes.
My daughter's 26. Half her friends, half her male friends are bi.
It's very disturbing.
I've also actually met Robert Bly, who wrote Iron John, and heard him speak on the subject.
And the word is puberty rite, or puberty ritual.
And not only do they take boys out, they rip them from the arms of their mothers and do things that hurt.
A lot of primitive societies were doing this until not that long ago.
American Indians, whether I don't know.
They do something where they had to draw blood and induce pain in these young boys, and now you are a man kind of thing, you know?
I wanted to say something about Donald Trump, too.
Right, Claudia.
When I heard him say, I think it was on my radio driving, that Mitt Romney was almost on his knees asking for his endorsement a couple of years ago, back in 2012, I bust up laughing because...
Trump says things that everyone wants to say and hasn't been able to say for a couple of decades.
And when Ramsey Paul said he had a schoolboy crush on him, even though some of the things he says blow me away because they're kind of crude and tactless, I love it because it's just so in your face.
Well, crude and tactless is what Americans do nowadays.
Well, part of the problem, as much as I hate crudity in general, Even though you will have occasionally heard me use naughty words on RFN, part of the problem with modern society is that it's very difficult to react to what's going on around you without using the terms of what's going on around you.
So a certain amount of crudity is actually forgivable even as much as I dislike it.
Of course.
Just remember, all the crude stuff wasn't going on in an all-white country.
If I were ever to get invited onto MSNBC or anything, which I won't, and they were saying, well, Donald Trump, he's just so crude and so rude, talking about these things that polite people don't talk about, and his voters are just such ignorant dumbasses because they're responding to all this, I would tell them, look, if you didn't want people to respond on that level to somebody like Donald Trump, then you shouldn't have spent the past 50 years dumbing them down to that level.
You're reaping what you've sown.
You have socially engineered the mass of white people to be a bunch of crude, rude, beavis-and-butthead South Park-type individuals.
And then somebody comes along who speaks their language, and you're surprised when they respond to him.
They push us in classrooms with these baby-shit brown guys and these niggers and spics and everybody.
They expect us to dumb down with them, but then they try to act like, oh my gosh, they're stupid.
Yeah, you made us that way by putting us around these people.
I get people jumping on me occasionally, some of the older people, from some of the language, some of the words I use on RFN, and I know it's wrong, but a lot of it, frankly, it just slips out because, you know, I've just become so used to it.
Hang on, we've got another call.
You're on Radio Free Northwest.
Who am I speaking with, please?
It's Idebro again.
Sorry, my phone dropped the call.
Okay, I knew we lost somebody there.
Let me get back in.
Okay, we got Idebro back right now.
I knew we lost somebody.
Idebro, we're talking about the general crudity and coarseness of society to which Donald Trump appeals.
Along the lines of language and Trump, I think where some of the initial visceral dislike for Trump's discourse is he speaks like a New Yorker.
He is a New Yorker.
Yeah, he speaks and he is.
And I think that's offensive to some people because they use phrases, their cadence, the way they talk.
I think it turns people off.
But I'm used to that.
And I'll tell you, when he speaks, he has an indirect way of saying things that just grabs you.
I think they describe it as, he says what you think.
He knows the way it should be.
He brings it to you in your way.
Somebody did analysis of the candidates and on what grade level they speak, and Trump they had at a fourth grade level.
Very simple, very direct.
I tell you, it strikes a chord in me a lot of the things he says.
That is the way to communicate with a people who has been dumbed down to that level.
If you want to convert or persuade Chinamen, you speak Chinese.
If you want to persuade and convert Frenchmen, you speak French.
You speak the language that they speak.
I'm amazed that anyone would not understand exactly why it is that Trump is having such success in reaching The mass of white people, number one, it's what he is saying, which is the truth they have wanted to hear for so long, and number two, it's how he's saying it.
He's not talking down to them.
He's not lecturing them or scolding them.
I think this is one of the reasons all the anti-Trump efforts are failing, is because you get all these people with these intellectual types on the various cable talk shows, and they've got college degrees, and people like Rachel Maddow and Megyn Kelly dressed up like Barbie dolls, or in Rachel Maddow's case, dressed up like whatever she looks like.
They're just explaining to them in this condescending tone just why you just can't possibly vote for this bad Mr. Trump because he's such a bad man and you're such a stupid person and I really shouldn't have to be explaining this to you as to why you cannot possibly even think of voting for this horrible man.
Now stop it!
And basically it's preachy, it's prissy, and I think basically the real source of Trump's appeal to white people and to all lower class people if you want to call them that, hell of all races, is The fact that the establishment hates him so.
The more people like Megyn Kelly and the salon crowd and the Republican establishment keep telling us, no, no, no, don't you dare vote for Trump, don't you dare vote for Trump, that's the biggest recommendation the man could have.
I will say that Camille Paglia on Salon has come out in favor of Trump, and she nailed it.
She said, like that other woman whose essay you posted, that the elites have neared at us and hated us, and people are finally realizing that the elites aren't going to save us.
We're on our own, and that they've been spitting on us, basically, for quite a while.
I sent out an article about three or four weeks ago by Peggy Noonan of all people from the Wall Street Journal, which is probably the best commentary I've seen on the whole Trump phenomenon.
Trump speaks for the unprotected.
We have all these elites in this country, the media, the political elite, the super rich, the top bureaucrats in the government, in their little enclaves like Washington, D.C., etc.
All these people are what you might call the protected class.
They have some money, they have secure homes, they have fairly stable family lives.
They can actually live their lives, and they are protected from the consequences of what these elites do to others.
In some cases, they even have their own security details, literally, to make sure that the crap that lives Liberalism and liberal democracy creates stays away from them, keeps them out of their neighborhoods.
They don't even have to look at it.
But the vast majority of the people in this country, of all races, are not protected from the consequences of what our lords and our masters do.
And Trump speaks for those who actually have to live with the consequences of America.
I was asking if you thought Megyn Kelly was a transvestite.
No.
No, I think what she is is Roger Ailes' Barbie doll sock puppet.
It's pretty obvious Ailes is putting her up to this anti-Trump thing.
Ailes, I can cut in real quick.
Another term I've heard from this protected class referring to the left are limousine liberals.
Yeah.
There was an article I picked up about Megyn Kelly.
She did some provocative photos.
She just forges her way in there with her looks.
We'll do anything.
Like that first question she asked Trump.
How can you ask a question like, are you a cartoon character, presidential candidate?
She was put up to that.
Yes, she was, yeah.
Basically, she was just doing what Roger Ailes, and beyond Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch told her to do.
She's completely classless.
Have you seen the deal of her on YouTube where she's farting on stage there?
She's, like, sitting there getting ready to do the news, and she lets off of it.
I mean, just farts.
And then, like, ten seconds later, she does it again.
She's disgusting.
Was she interviewing these two Canadian guys named Terrence and Phillip?
Some of you guys wouldn't get that, and if you don't get it, don't worry.
You haven't missed anything.
Well, I'll tell you what, Harold.
You know how to talk to everybody.
I've got a young comrade down here in Missouri with me that's 21 years old that's been smitten by you for about the last month.
And I believe his name is Cliff, and I hope that you recognize it.
He's supposed to be getting in touch with you.
And you hit him high, and you hit him low, and you hit everywhere.
Okay, have you given him any Northwest novels yet?
Yes, sir.
He is getting them.
I have them.
I'm scared to loan them out, and I shouldn't be, but they're like prized treasures of mine.
If you will send me an email and remind me, and I will send you some more.
Yes, sir.
Certainly will.
Thank you very much.
And since the subject has come up, I'm obligated to remind everyone we have them available in PDF format, free for the asking.
Get a hold of one of us, and we will send you all the PDFs.
The sweet thing with Barnes& Noble, you walk in there and you order, it's print-on-demand, and they'll tell you it'll be 7 to 10 days, and you'll have it within 3 or 4 days.
Oh, yes.
Now, one thing, this is off-topic.
Just a brief comment.
I'm scared to talk about this in too much detail because I swear I'm scared I'm going to jinx it.
I was not making things up last July when I stated that the publishers had pulled the printing contract on all my books, not just Northwest novels, but they are still available in print-per-order.
I have figured out why that is.
It has to do with how the print-per-order system itself works.
But they are still available online, so you can still order the books, even though not from the original publishers.
So, yes, you can still order your Northwest novels and any other Covington books you want online.
Yeah, I encourage everybody to do that.
They are great reads.
The Hill of the Ravens, probably my least favorite, but it was good, too.
The rest of them, I sat on the edge of my seat.
It was really hard to put them down.
The Hill of the Ravens was great, but the others were just, I mean...
Let me explain about that.
Hill of the Ravens was the first book I ever wrote, and I did not at that time realize that this thing was going to develop a life of its own and turn into a whole mythos, so to speak, and so a lot of the things in Hill of the Ravens don't quite dovetail with some of the rest of the series, and that's why some of it looks a little bit hesitant and a little bit underdeveloped, as opposed to, say, the Brigade or Freedom Sons.
Yeah, I would encourage everybody to read those.
And that is my favorite, and a lot of favorite, is The Brigade.
Harold's favorite is the last one he wrote, which is Freedom's Sons.
And I think Freedom's Sons is a great book.
In fact, it's my second favorite book.
And I've been asking myself, why do I like The Brigade better than Freedom's Sons?
And I think the answer is that The Brigade takes us from almost where we are today to the founding of the Republic.
And Freedom's Sons goes from that point beyond.
And so The Brigade is a little bit closer to where we are today, and it's a little bit easier to identify with.
And I also think that the continuity of the struggle shown in The Brigade is very engaging.
So, Harold, that's my explanation or analysis for why I like The Brigade better than Freedom's Sons.
Although, again, Freedom's Sons is number two.
Well, I think, insofar as I'm remembered at all, the brigade is going to be the one that I'm remembered for.
It is a little bit dated.
Bear in mind that I actually completed it in 2008.
Just to show you how dated it is, remember the scene where they're coming ashore at Sunset Beach and the commander of the fat pose is General Raleigh Rollins?
That was my take on Obama in the summer of 2007 when he was first getting started.
I mean, hey, who knew?
I guess now we're going to find out in November whether or not my gift of prophecy really holds and Hillary becomes president.
My personal experience with novels is I actually didn't read them until after I had migrated into Idaho.
I read them in the order that they were released, starting with Hill of Ravens, and once I started reading, I could not put them down, and I plowed through the entire quintet in three weeks, and it took me a few months to get through Mein Kampf.
Well, Mein Kampf is a lot heavier going, believe me, than anything I ever wrote.
In Mein Kampf, you actually have to sit down and think about every sentence.
That is one thing I have noticed, too, is anytime you read any sort of translated philosophy, like, let's say, Oswald Spengler or Ebola, it's always a significantly slower read, not only due to the language, but the translations aren't quite as athletic as somebody who actually is a native English writer.
I just sent out something yesterday.
The brigade is now in French as well as Russian.
I have no idea how good these translations are, by the way.
I read some French and my Russian is limited to some very crude spoken phrases, so...
I got that email in French today, and I was trying to decipher that.
I was reading it.
I'm like, is there a code in here I'm supposed to pick up on that explains it?
No, it's in French.
There are no codes in any emails we send out to our inherently violent and criminal audience.
There are no codes.
I want that stated very clearly.
Whatever you do, don't play any episode of Radio Free Northwest backwards, because you're going to find a hidden satanic message in it.
Well, I think you're a blessing from God, so I don't believe there's anything satanic there.
Harold, are you still sticking by your prophecy about Hillary?
It looks like I might be proven right.
We're dragging ourselves screaming and kicking back to the subject.
It looks like in November it's going to be Hillary versus Trump in the normal course of things.
Trump would have the Republican nomination sewed up, but he is going to have to face down two obstacles.
Number one, it looks like they're going to try and figure out some way to screw him at the convention and snatch the nomination away from him in the face of basically the popular will, which is going to create a very interesting situation in and of itself.
But if they can't do that, if he ends up getting the nomination, for all I know, the RINOs might decide to go third party or something just purely out of spite to take votes away from Trump enough to put Hillary in.
These people like Paul Ryan and John Boehner, and these Rockefeller Republicans, they are quite capable of throwing this country to Hillary Clinton for eight years just out of spite against Donald Trump because he took their toys away.
So that could happen, but then again, Trump also has to face the ultimate sanction.
If it looks like he's going to just get the nomination and that's it, that's all there is to it, there's no way they can stop him.
Around the time of that convention, if I was him, I would be really careful and wear a bulletproof vest because if the Rhinos or possibly even the Democrats, Hillary has a history of this kind of thing with guys ending up dead in public parks, some funny little man is going to step out of the crowd with a gun in his hand.
It will be proven that he is a complete total loner, no connection to anybody that anybody can ever trace.
He will, of course, be killed at the scene.
Remember, the first time they actually did this was with Huey Long in 1935.
Basically, I figured that was Roosevelt taking care of Huey and making sure he was going to have no opposition in 1936.
History could repeat itself.
Oh, I don't think so.
There was no Twitter then, and Huey Long had no Lion Guard, or whatever it was.
Yeah, right, whoever they are.
Assuming none of that happens.
It's going to be Trump versus Hillary in November of 2016 and Hillary might win by hook or crook or vote fraud or shooting Trump or whatever and so yeah the prophecies in my novels may come true but I don't want that.
I'll be honest with you guys, believe me, I would far rather be proven wrong than to subject this country to eight years of Hillary Clinton because in my opinion Whatever Trump might hold, and we don't know, he could be the greatest president we ever had.
He could be Bozo the Clown.
We just don't know.
And that's kind of scary, but we know what's going to happen with Hillary.
The liberals and Salon and Hufflepuff have stated what's going to happen with Hillary.
It's going to be eight more years of Obama.
A minor technical note, if your prophecy comes true, Hillary Clinton will have Congress suspend whatever amendment it was, the 22nd Amendment, I believe it was, and she will have a third term before her daughter gets in.
I don't know if she's going to be that old.
I put something on Twitter yesterday.
I'm not going to say where I got this because it's weird.
You know, you keep hearing these stories on the internet about various treatments, everything from nanobots to genetic engineering to remove certain jiggly squigglies from your chromosomes or whatever that cause aging.
Anyway, the idea is to create extended human lifespan or possibly even immortality.
We keep hearing that the technology to do this theoretically exists.
I just can't help but wonder if this latest rumor is true and that Hillary has received some kind of medical treatment to give her either an immortal or an extended lifespan, so basically we're never going to get rid of her.
Bear in mind, she's 69 now.
She looks better today than she did 10 years ago.
That's what's kind of making me suspicious.
Either she has got a hell of a makeup artist.
I keep hearing she's very unhealthy, though.
I keep hearing she's not well.
Well, she keeps having these coughing fits.
Yeah, I've heard she's had brain cancer and she's passed out a couple of times, but she looks better.
I think Harold's right there.
She looks better now than I ever remember her looking.
Well, to lapse back into Terrence and Phillip territory, there was one episode of South Park where Christopher Reeves would suck baby fetuses dry and he would get better and eventually got out of the wheelchair that way.
Maybe that's what's going on with Hillary.
Well, they said David Bowie did that.
That's why he looks so young.
I know he just died, which is kind of a surprise, but they said that he was doing that with those baby fetuses somehow.
It was pretty disgusting, but that was going on.
This is a Jew named Kurzweil who claims that we're going to become immortal by injecting streams of tiny little robotic nanobots into our bloodstream that are going to repair our bodies.
That sounds insane.
It sounds like something out of a drunken Isaac Asimov short story, but apparently from some of the things I read, technically speaking, it's feasible.
They're probably already doing it to themselves.
They're supposedly an immortal cow in Japan.
This back in the 90s, they supposedly isolated a gene that causes cattle to age, and some Japanese scientists were successful in cloning or producing several cows that do not have this aging gene.
The trouble is, cows normally live to be about 30, 40 years old, so it's going to be a few years still before we know whether or not it works.
I'm real thankful that you came into my life.
You're a great guy.
I appreciate everything you do.
I'm going to have to get off here, but the best compliment that I can give you is one that closes out a distant thunder and that if he didn't walk away.
Thank you for not walking away.
Okie dokie.
Well, I'll still be staggering on.
Harold, I'd like to ask this and make a statement.
I kind of think the way this election's going and what's going on and what's being revealed about how the system works, how do you guys feel this affects the Northwest Front movement?
We're starting to kind of run out of time here, and I'd kind of like to get into that.
Some of our people, I say our people, people that I'm in contact with on the internet, not the actual hardcore that keeps us going.
Some of our contacts have drunk the Trump Kool-Aid.
They are convinced that Trump is going to save us all.
Okay, fine.
Now, I, as some of you may recall, predicted this.
I think someone like Trump was inevitable who would hold out this promise that if he just elect a nice guy in a nice suit with some good ideas to the White House that all of this crap can just be discarded out the window and everything will be back to the Brady Bunch and we could all kick off our shoes and pick up the TV remote and see what's on the tube tonight and everything's gonna be fine again.
That's not possible, but hope springs eternal.
Especially when a people in a nation is as miserable as they are right now, they will grasp at any hope.
So I can understand the hope that Trump is proffering.
And I feel it sometimes, too.
Sometimes I look at him and, "Oh, who knows?
I don't know.
Maybe God will smile on us and somehow things will come right if this man gets elected." I know it's a pipe dream, but still, everybody who is in this constant state of misery wants to hope.
I want to hope.
So I get it.
I'm not criticizing white nationalist people who have drunk the Trump Kool-Aid.
It's wonderful Kool-Aid and something that we're very thirsty for.
So I understand it.
I'm not criticizing.
I'm not going to recriminate afterwards.
But in the first place, I have to warn you that you are going to be disappointed.
And the second thing, after you are disappointed, the question is what will happen?
You're right.
You're probably going to be disappointed, but you will be awakened.
I think this is better for the Northwest Front in many respects.
If Trump gets in, he's going to awaken in people these feelings of nationalism that you should have.
And nationalism is defined by the people that occupy the ground.
And the white people are maybe going to find a little bit of their soul again.
I think if Hillary Clinton gets in, things are going to get so miserable it's going to wake people up.
They're going to look for an organization like us.
No matter which way anything goes, I think Northwest Front is going to gain from it.
Just because you're going to become more visible, Because you've got to be an alternative that most people don't realize exists?
I know, I look up.
Maybe I'm going out on a limb with this, but that's what I think.
I've been saying some things in the organizational letters about some of the things we've got to get done, and we're not getting done for various reasons, but we have to be ready for that time.
At some point, we're going to turn a corner, and all of a sudden I'm going to step out my door one morning, and there's going to be the world demanding that I take the lead or whatever, or like Teddy charging up the stairs in Arsenic and Olase yelling charge or whatever.
But we have to be ready for that.
I'm trying my best right now to get us into that position.
For reasons I've outlined in the organizational letters, it's a bit hard.
I think when the crash comes and when everyone is disappointed, they will be looking for something.
We need to position ourselves such that we can offer that hope.
I've been in a bit of a slump for the past few months due to medical reasons and some other reasons, but I want to spend the summer not only following the campaign, but trying to get us into a position where we will be able to take advantage of that surge, if you want to call it that, because yes, you're right.
When the crash comes, when we lose Trump through whatever way we lose him, assassination or whatever, Or when there's some kind of development that completes the white man's disillusionment with the system, they're going to be looking for a place to go.
We need to be that place.
I will do my best to get us into that position to where we can make that place the Northwest Front.
I'll do the best I can with what I've got to work with.
If something like that does happen, all they've got to do is move.
Just get us there.
If they come, if they come, that's when things will happen.
Because you'll have like-minded people in a large group.
This is what I keep trying to get through people's heads.
We're not asking anybody to break any laws.
We're not asking you to go to prison.
We're not asking you to completely give up everything you have in the world and go off and live in a cave and be a hermit.
I'm not like Starship Ruthie.
I'm not going to ask you to live in a bunker under the Montana hills waiting for the mothership to descend or any crap like that.
What I'm asking you to do, what the Northwest Front is asking all white people to do, is something that is basically to their advantage.
Yeah, it's hard and annoying at the moment to make the move, but it's going to be a lot worse the longer you wait.
I just don't understand the difficulty that we're having in getting this idea through to people.
Well, it's like I said earlier, the Trump campaign is to the alt-right what a lot of other distractions have been to white nationalism for a long time.
Again, this isn't me coming down on people, it's very hard to accept, and to what Harold said earlier about he wishes he was wrong, the Northwest Front, as much as I get on my soapbox and cheerlead on RFN and other places on a regular basis, this was genuinely my last choice.
Prior to finding the Northwest Front, I was actually trying to find some other place to go.
And my point is that we have to figure out what it is that people actually want.
Harold and I keep asking, what is it that would actually convince people that this is it?
Because somebody commented on an RFN episode not too long back that white nationalism as a whole is having a hard time accepting that the Northwest imperative is the only solution.
I genuinely don't have a good answer for this at the moment.
Guys, it's now 6.30, so we need to kind of wind this down.
I would like you to keep the finished version of this program under an hour and 20 minutes so we can get it on a CD.
Does anyone have anything that they want to add?
I would like to add something.
Given the strife in my own environment here, Within my own family unit, regarding Trump versus Bernie, I think it's going to get ugly.
If it's March and people are already getting this heated about it, I think it could get really, really crazy by October.
I'm a little nervous, I have to tell you.
That's a good question.
What is this election cycle's October surprise?
I can't wait to find out.
Now, this would be an interesting situation.
Let's say that in October, Hillary and Trump are running neck and neck, and there's rioting and yelling and screaming all over the media, and everyone's jumping up and down and whirling like a dervish, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then, then, is when the funny little man steps out of the crowd, and all of a sudden, Trump's lying there dead on the concrete with a bullet in him.
What happens then?
Well, why can't it be Hillary with the bullet?
Or maybe Hillary, yeah.
Maybe Hillary would be the same thing.
Another note to law enforcement, this is all hypothetical.
Hypothetical, yeah.
The things that are being talked about openly on Twitter and on the internet and on cable right now, I'll be honest with you, I think we're reasonably safe with this type of speculation so long as we keep it clearly conjectural because there is so much of it going on.
It's interesting.
I saw a thing on the news that the Secret Service is having trouble with manpower because of all these presidential campaigns and all the candidates.
Basically, they're spread so thin that they can just barely provide actual protection.
And then there's always the specter of vote fraud.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, vote fraud is a given.
Like Stalin said, the people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.
It's like the Chinese used to curse their enemies with, may you live in interesting times.
Anybody have anything else?
You guys got anything?
I've said my piece.
Yeah, I don't want to say anything else or I'll get myself in trouble.
Oh, why not?
Good show, Harold.
Thank you.
I would like to thank all of you for participating.
Hopefully we will get these shows back in the groove and we'll have a lot more of them in the future.
Like I say, I was in a bit of a call-in show slump for a few months there for a variety of reasons, but hopefully we'll be able to have these at least once a month now.
I'm also glad to see that there are more people here in the homeland calling in, because that's one thing that was bothering me, that it was all old codgers outside of here.
For all of you that are already here, thank you for calling in.
I've met the Ida bro, and he's actually a young codger.
Yep, yep, I'm definitely a young codger.
Alright, guys, thanks a lot.
Good night.
Good night.
Bye, everybody.
Have a good night.
Good night.
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