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right, ladies and gentlemen, this is Matthew Heimbach here with another edition of the Traditionalist Youth Hour here at the Radio Stormer.
And on the line, I have a man who most of you should know, and if you don't, shame on you.
It's Mr. Harold Covington, the leader of the Northwest Front.
And today we're going to talk about a whole host of different issues.
But, Mr. Covington, how are you doing today?
Well, I'm able to sit up and take a little nourishment from time to time.
So can't complain.
You woke up on the right side of the dirt this morning.
Yeah, sure did.
So for our listeners, because of course Radio Stormer, most of the listeners are millennials like myself, for those who don't know you, what's your testimony?
How did you get involved in the movement originally?
And bring us up to today.
Well, I first got involved in the movement, if you want to call it that, as part of the Wallace for President campaign in 1968.
I'm not quite sure why, but I just decided that he was going to be my man for that particular election.
Of course, most of your listeners probably don't even remember who George Wallace was.
Anyway, I walked into an integrated high school in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, in September of 1968, wearing a Wallace for President button, and I found out that I had just landed in the middle of the counterculture, and I also found out that I had landed in an environment, an integrated high school, with a bunch of blacks.
And it kind of proceeded or deteriorated from there.
To make a long and complex story short, I went through three years of an absolutely hellish existence in that place, or it was to me at the time.
Now, I want to say that I understand that this was in 1968 through 1971, and high school in those days wasn't anywhere near as bad as it is for kids today.
But it was bad enough for me just coming out of the rural South and moving to one of the most liberal university towns in the country.
And on my last day, when I completed my last exam, I went up on the hill there to the parking lot, and I kind of looked back at the high school, and I made a personal vow to myself that I was going to spend the rest of my life making sure that no other young white kid had to go through what I had had to go through in that place.
And with some intermittent lapses, I have kept that vow for the remainder of my life, and I'm 62 years old now.
So I first got involved in the movement movement with the old...
National Socialist White People's Party out of Arlington, Virginia, which was Commander Rockwell's party.
And I've moved on through many a transition, as those do who stay with the movement.
And so I am now the public spokesperson for the Northwest Front here in the Pacific Northwest.
And we advocate the creation of a sovereign and independent white homeland here on the North American continent.
And so that is about as quick a summation as I can give to you.
Like Jerry Garcia said, what a long, strange trip it's been, I guess is the word.
Because I had the pleasure of meeting you.
It's amazing how time flies, I guess, two years ago, or maybe even a little bit longer.
And it's interesting how I've kind of watched within my own transition with the movement, that it seems that a lot of what you've gone through, I've kind of come to some of the same conclusions.
And one of the big fights for me was the idea of saving America versus the idea that America is not salvageable, that there's just not enough pieces left on the board to be able to win.
So if you're going to end up losing the game, it's time to play a different game.
And that's, you know, what I really wanted to focus on, the idea of the Northwest Front, is this fight.
I mean, really within white nationalism in America, where I myself was banned from Stormfront after my presentation.
Well, welcome to the club.
Don't feel too bad about that.
Anybody who is worth assault in this movement has been banned from Stormfront.
You're in good company.
Well, I'm glad.
I was banned years ago.
Well, yeah, it was interesting, because I gave a speech, you know, that a lot of our listeners saw, you know, titled Death to America, and it was this idea of, you know, I clarified right off the bat that what I mean is America as an institution, just, it's not salvageable, it's not...
Really good for the idea of whites to try and keep saving America, and the movement needs to be able to move towards creating our own independent homeland, just like the Scots held a referendum on secession that didn't pass, but they still held it.
The Catalonians are going to vote on secession.
This idea of an ethnic group saying, I want out of this multicultural country that doesn't represent my interests is not a fringe thought anymore.
It's relatively politically mainstream.
So why is it, do you think, It is within the American white nationalist movement, especially among the older generation, that this devotion to America is almost like a cult-like status.
And how do we break people from that?
In a way, I think part of that is because people of my generation remember, and I just was finishing up today the November issue of our magazine newsletter, Northwest Observer.
And I was talking a little bit about this, and I said, well, you know, guys like me and Ed Fields and Don Black and David Duke, we're what the British would call the last of the summer wine.
We remember when things were different.
The way I put it is that I will always be thankful that I retained some fleeting childhood memories of a better way of life, and I do.
I remember the last of the old colored-only signs in the South.
I, in my world travels, have managed to get an up-close and personal look at white societies before they went down into destruction.
I saw South Africa.
I saw Rhodesia.
So, having lived in Rhodesia, I can, I think, tell people that I know what it was like to have lived in the last of the old British Empire.
I saw Ireland in the 1980s when it was still a white country, and I saw the last of the old Ireland.
And so we remember what it was like, but the younger generation, the millennials, as you call them, they don't.
They've never known anything but this chaos and this rubbish that goes on all around us.
And so a lot of us older folks still have a very fond and nostalgic childhood memory of the old America, the old red, white, and blue, you know, the 4th of July picnics and so forth and so on.
It's to some degree, I think, a matter of not being able to teach an old dog new tricks.
There's some of that, but I think a lot of people of my generation, of all generations, now realize that as much as we might like to do so, there is simply no way to turn back the clock.
There is no way that any white nationalist movement or tendency that I can imagine is going to ever be able to restore things to the way they were.
Our continent has been simply overrun.
There are simply too many of them.
Realistically speaking, I've discussed this in my books, in fact, in my novels.
In one of the speeches I have my president of the Northwest Republican making, the problem is, what exactly are we going to do with all these non-whites and all these scum if we do ever reach a position of state power, however tenuous?
There is no way that we are ever going to move these people out without massive military force of a type that realistically we are never going to have.
Whether we like it or not, the United States is gone.
We are in the process right now.
We can see it happening now before our eyes in the past seven years, especially since Barry got in.
We are in the process of watching the United States break up like the old Soviet Union did into different racial and ethnic groupings.
And, of course, the dictatorship is actually assisting in this process by deliberately bringing in large numbers of non-white refugees and putting them in white areas.
They've got Somalis in Maine and Africans in Minneapolis, and they're trying to bring 5,000 Syrians into Idaho and this sort of stuff.
It's clearly deliberate.
And the only way that the white race can move forward to survival is to accept that the old ways are gone.
There is going to be no turning back the clock to the 1950s and Bobby Sox and the Brady Bunch or whatever.
Beaver Cleaver is not coming back.
Beaver Cleaver is dead and gone.
And so we've got to stop looking back at the past.
We and the movement have a tendency to be constantly looking back at some idealized past, be it the American Civil War or the antebellum South or the Italian Renaissance and, of course, the Third Reich.
We have got to start thinking about what we are going to do in the future.
Right now, it is a matter of plain and simple racial survival for the white men.
We are, I believe, the best statistics available.
We are now something like 8% of the world's population.
And of those, only 3% of the world's population are white women of childbearing age.
And we are clearly facing literal, physical extinction.
That's what it's about now.
Racial survival.
The goal has to be to make sure that 100, 150 years from now, there are still some people who look like us.
Right.
It's about the ship is sinking, and we need to be not talking about, well, you know, the ship was created to look like this or function like this, and it's supposed to be unsinkable.
No, it's time to get to a life raft, for lack of a better term.
Well, that's basically what we're doing.
The Northwest American Republic is a lifeboat, and we are screaming at the top of people's lungs to get into that lifeboat.
Save yourselves.
I'm sorry, there's just simply going to be no turning back.
The turning point, in my view, was 1958 in Little Rock, Arkansas, and that's when Eisenhower ordered federal troops in to integrate the schools at the point of a bayonet.
That, in my mind, was the time for the white man to fight if there was ever going to be any kind of nationwide uprising.
Of course, my personal opinion is that at that point, the people of the South should have redeclared the Confederate States of America and should have driven those Yankees out, you know, at the point of our own bayonets.
But, I mean, you know, coulda, woulda, shoulda.
There's no point in this constant navel-gazing and this constant nostalgia and this constant looking back to the past.
We have to start looking for the future.
And that frightens our people because, let's be honest, Everybody in our We Little Movement, and I think by now most of the white people in this country, understand what is going to have to be done in order, not even so much to save America, because it's beyond saving, but to make sure that we save ourselves.
And it's going to involve sacrifice.
And we're basically, we're too weak and timid and frightened and confused to do it, and so we flounder.
We look back at the past.
We squabble among ourselves.
I've noticed that the white man will do anything to avoid just getting down to the job at hand.
We don't want to do it because we're scared of it because we know what's going to have to be done.
Right.
I mean, the very idea, I mean, you just look, you know, last year I got to go to Greece and spend time with comrades from Golden Dawn.
And in one of their offices in Athens, they have pictures of every member of Golden Dawn that's been killed by a communist in the party's history.
And it's something that they see and they know and they understand that that sacrifice, up to and included giving your own life for a cause, is necessary to save Greece.
Yet here in America, the idea of getting people out to go to a protest and hold a sign, and they might get called names on the local 6 o 'clock news, that's too much.
And that's something that was very startling to me to see.
I also got to go speak at a nationalist rally in the Czech Republic, and the Czech Republic has a population less than the size of the New York City metro area, and yet there was a small nationalist party that gets about 2% of the vote that had more nationalists on I mean, it really is a movement except...
Since Wall, since 68. So what's the big difference?
Europe is a different, kind of different kettle of fish, although I think that, frankly, the time is coming for Europe as well, especially with this latest invasion, where they're going to have to sit down and understand that they can no longer use democracy.
The purpose of democracy is to prevent change, and it's working very well in that respect for the people who hold power in Europe and this country.
And that is another message that I've been trying to convey in my novels and elsewhere, is that we simply cannot use democracy in the existing electoral system because the cards are stacked against us from the get-go, and the whole system is specifically designed so that no one, not just us, but no one can actually change the system.
Even assuming, for the sake of argument, that we could get mass rallies with 5, 10, 20,000 people marching down the street, this entire system in this country is set up to ignore that.
The lefties and the reds and other weird groups do that all the time.
And the governmental power structure simply ignores it because they can't ignore it.
Everybody comes to their...
At a designated point, they waddle down the street, wave their sides and scream and yell, and then they disperse and go back to their crappy jobs on Monday morning, and nothing changes.
These techniques are things that have been almost designed by the system to make sure that people who are discontented can let off steam without bringing about actually any change, and we can't do that anymore.
Things have to change.
In my novels, my NBA guerrillas are sometimes asked, well, why are you doing this?
And the standard reply I put into their mouth is, I like that.
And, you know, a question for you is, because obviously the American political system, with its corruption, I mean the first-past-the-post system, you know, is really what differentiates us from Europe.
Right.
3% representation, but in America it's a completely different system.
Now, what do you think, you discuss in your novels The idea of Russia aiding the NVA with various supplies.
But what do you think about the idea of moving politically, of using the potential of America's geopolitical enemies, such as Russia, China, other nations, who want to see American power curtailed, about if we were to have a political movement that is saying we are a persecuted ethnic group, we just have to look at the laws that are currently in place in our system where we can't even have a school board or a local city council, let alone our own nation right now under America's current system.
What are your thoughts about the idea of turning towards using international law against the current regime?
Because there are nations that aren't necessarily our best friends, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Well, international law is basically the same system we've got in this country writ large.
I mean, what are we going to do?
Appeal to the United Nations?
Opposed almost entirely of non-white nations who all hate our guts.
Now, it's going to have to be kind of a Sinn Féin type situation ourselves alone.
The white man has to realize that no one is going to descend from the clouds and save us.
Now, I personally believe that when the time comes that we here in the Northwest are in a position to show, say, the Russians something.
That we can go to Putin or whoever's successor and say, look, okay, here we are.
We've got this separatist movement here in the Northwest.
This is what we can do for you.
Now, what can you do for us?
These people that actually exercise real power aren't going to help us just out of the goodness of their hearts.
They are going to expect something for what they give us in the way of material and political support.
We are simply not in that position now, and the fact that we're not is another long story, which is basically our fault.
But if you can get me talking about...
I'll be here all night.
And so, when the time comes, I can see, yes, make a deal with, say, Russia, possibly any other white government that might still exist.
The Chinese, I'm a little bit leery of messing with because I frankly believe the Chinese have their eye on this continent.
I think they're sitting back and watching America and Canada quietly fall to pieces with some idea that they're going to move in.
You know, Confucius once wrote many thousands of years ago that it was written in the stars that all people would eventually be Chinese.
So I would be a little bit leery about doing anything with them because...
Well, I mean, it's basically what they're doing in Africa currently.
After, you know...
As soon as the colonial powers all closed up shop, then you have the Chinese business interests putting their boots on the ground and creating a system where you've even got some African tribal leaders who have come out and said that they wish the Europeans would come back because, you know, at least we're building schools and roads and creating a stable society where the Chinese just want to benefit the Chinese.
Well, who do you think was supporting the terrorists in the 1970s?
The terrorists were actually being primarily armed by the Chinese.
I remember sitting out in the bush, you know, around a campfire.
We were trying to listen to Radio LM, Lorenzo Marks, down in Mozambique.
And it kept, you know, coming in and out and in and out because the Chinese and Tanzania were trying to jam it and this sort of stuff.
And, of course...
When Mugabe took over in Rhodesia, he immediately acquired a brigade of about 5,000 North Korean troops who were at that time acting as a Chinese proxy.
I don't know what their relationship is today.
I think right now North Korea is a little bit nutty even for the Chinese.
But, oh yeah, the Chinese have always wanted Africa.
And, frankly, if the white man can't have it, I mean, hell, I say let them have it.
Because, I mean, the Africans can't do anything with it.
It's by now pretty clear.
I'm amazed at the continued unwillingness of the existing powers that be to admit openly that the entire African independence experiment has failed because basically blacks cannot run a country.
They cannot run a technological society.
It's like training a chimpanzee to ride a bicycle.
I suppose you can do it to a limited extent, but on his own, the chimpanzee would never learn to ride a bicycle, and in fact, he would be incapable of even imagining the whole concept of a bicycle.
When the colonial powers left Africa, we handed those people entire societies with everything they needed: hospitals, roads, governmental infrastructure.
Power grids, water and sewage systems, educational systems.
There are universities in places like Kinshasa and whatnot.
Right now, there is literally grass growing through the streets in what's left of Kinshasa because once the white man left and there was no one remaining to keep them in line and impose order on blacks, they just drift back to their native.
And this is what we're seeing here in places like Detroit and Newark.
When the white people finally leave an area and they leave behind only blacks, you get Detroit, you get Newark, you get Birmingham, you get Atlanta, they just sort of drift off into their own lazy, hazy ways of corruption and idleness and breaking everything the white men left them and then crying because the white men won't come back and fix it.
You know, and there's an interesting thing, you know, we're discussing where there's an inability to recognize that certain liberal ideas of the past two generations have just failed.
And I'm kind of reminded of in Freedom Sons, in the last third of the book, there's a scene where the young girl's grandfather, who had fought on the side of the American militia, takes her out to different scenes where the NBA had been active, and he basically gives a speech which I think was really...
It was very interesting that you included it, because it really humanized the American sympathizers in the struggle, but where he basically said, you know, it doesn't even matter if the whites who want independence, if they're right, because it's more noble to basically just lay down and...
So this idea in Freedom Sons, where you have this grandfather telling his granddaughter, basically the idea that it is better and more noble for whites, no matter if we have a right to survival or not, just to basically lay down and die, and it doesn't...
That was very deliberately written on my part, because I believe that there are a lot of white people, even not necessarily liberals, who have just decided it is indeed nobler to die quietly.
I don't think, though, it's because of any inherent nobility or guilt about slavery or anything like that.
I think they're just too damn lazy to put up a fight.
I think if, when the white race does become extinct, which is the way we're headed, out there in the cosmos someplace, there will be a racial tombstone, something to the effect of, here lies the white race.
They couldn't be bothered.
And we can pull this out of the fire at the 11th hour and the 59th minute and the 59th second, because we are so superior to these other people that if we ever get our heads together, get our act together, yes, we can pull this out of the fire.
But I am very skeptical as to whether or not we're going to do it in time.
Although, and I've told my own people this, In the long run, I'm hopeful because you have to bear in mind that this degeneracy, this filth that we're wallowing in, this poison that is killing us, is of very recent vintage, only about the past hundred years.
For thousands of years before this, we were the world's greatest creators, explorers, fighters, and builders.
And that genetic heritage is still with us.
We are still potentially the very same men that our ancestors were.
And I don't think in the long run that maybe three generations of political correctness is going to destroy that.
I hope not.
Now it's going to do a lot of damage, but I just have this vision that at some point, at the 11th hour and the 59th minute, we are going to wake up, and we are going to finally do what's necessary.
That's one of the things that a lot of right-wingers say, well, Harold, if we can print this one really good book, or if we can convey this one big idea to all our people, The white man will finally wake up!
And I say, okay, yeah, that's definitely a consummation devoutly to be wished, but once they wake up, what then?
Great, you need a plan, and that's something that is really, I mean, kind of as a young person who is getting into the movement, has actually kind of startled me.
When I started reading, I understood the issues, and I said, what now?
and I looked around and I really only saw the League of the South, and I was a Southerner, and the Northwest Front as literally the only two groups having any plan whatsoever.
But you have a thousand different pro-white organizations who have no plan.
One of the things that struck me when I first came into the movement myself, including the old party that I joined, the NSWPP, there was this sense of drift.
No one had a real plan.
No one had a strategy.
We were kind of like dogs.
We lived and we still live in an eternal present.
No thought for the future, no real memory of the past.
And we in the Northwest Front do have a plan.
It is relatively simple and understandable, and it is doable.
The problem we're having is reaching people.
There's no question in my mind that we could have our little revolution going in a matter of months if we could somehow make millions and millions of white people aware of the fact that we exist and give them just the basics of what we believe in.
There's no question in my mind we could get mass support, but we're simply not allowed to access that support.
You're too new to Radio Stormer on the Daily Stormer.
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So, the BBC cut three weeks' worth of footage that they had taken of us organizing poor white people in Appalachia and instead threw together a cliched Ku Klux Klan documentary.
They wasted thousands of dollars, you know, of the British government's money to not use a single second of our footage.
So, how do we break through this embargo on attention?
Well, to do what we're...
What we're doing right now with little programs like this, one of the things that everyone used to say all the time is we have to build our own media and bypass the system media, and to a large extent, that's what the Internet has done.
The problem is that the Internet, there's just so much of it.
There's so much stuff out there.
A lot of it is, frankly, insane.
And the result is that the saner voices of white nationalism like you and me and some others are getting just totally drowned and shouted down and obscured in this massive ocean of static.
The internet, frankly, is a place where people go to vomit.
It's like trying to do anything on the internet is like...
Michelangelo trying to paint the Sistine Chapel with a whole troupe of monkeys running through the place, grabbing his paints and throwing the paintbrushes and beating each other with the fixtures and that sort of stuff and making all kinds of noise and crapping all over the place.
But still, it's happening.
Now, slowly but surely, a lot of the Internet outreach, put it this way, that we do is getting through.
I believe that one reason that there is so much disillusionment with the existing system is because of the internet, not necessarily you or me or any one particular outfit that's on the net.
But also, I am very encouraged by the increasing level of technical expertise that I find on the net.
I don't know if you're familiar with some YouTube types.
It's either a person or a group who calls himself more Q. I've been playing a lot of his stuff on my own show for the past few months, and I am extremely impressed by the level of technical expertise and just plain talent that this guy and his friends have.
It's a group of about three or four guys and about three or four girls, and they just do great.
And we're seeing more and more of that on the Internet slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, but surely.
We are starting to acquire the necessary technical expertise to do this.
We're starting to make an impression on Twitter, although I don't use Twitter.
I read left-wing blogs like the Huffington Post and the Salon Magazine, and they are starting to get upset about what's going on on Twitter because our Twitter people are starting to make a dent in the Twitter sphere or whatever they call it.
You may have seen this story recently about how a lot of people are protesting against the new Star Wars because there's some monkoid playing Luke Skywalker or some such.
I didn't even follow it all, but that came from our quote-unquote Twitter.
You can tell by some of the quotes that some of these lefties put in their own little articles that they're getting very upset about our ability to intrude into their little world.
So we're learning.
The process is just too damn slow.
Right.
Now, a question that I have is in regards to a big movement issue that you discuss at length within your books, and that's the idea of religion within the movement.
How have you taken over your activism career such a nuanced center-of-the-road position?
There's a funny scene in one of your novels where one character laments how kind of funny it is that National Socialism is the moderating center of the road force compared, you know, with the different factions.
You know, I myself am a Christian, and I've got plenty of comrades that are pagans and who are not religious.
But the idea of actually just working together seems rather radical to some different camps within our movement.
Oh yeah, well, I think, actually, when we do obtain independence here in the Northwest, and we do have our Northwest American Republic, there will be tendencies within the unitary state which our Constitution proposes, and there will be a very strong National Socialist faction.
And I honestly think that what I wrote will be correct.
The National Socialists will be the people that actually keep everyone else on an even keel.
But the way I like to put it, and this is not original with me, this was first said by Dr. William L. Pierce, and he said it very well.
It says, we must be a community of blood, not of faith.
The only thing that matters in our struggle, the only thing that matters in our world in this time of existential threat, Race.
Race is what is important, not God or religion or church or denomination or whatever.
I mean, as far as religion goes, let's get to the chase.
All religion, basically, is about what's going to happen when you die.
Now, I happen to think I know, which I won't get into, but look at it this way.
We're all going to find out one way or the other.
And it's pointless to argue over it.
It's especially pointless when we're under such a deadly, dangerous threat to our very existence.
I'm stuttering a bit there.
I'm trying to formulate my thoughts, but you get the idea.
Well, it's...
Religion, frankly, just is not important.
I believe that for a white nationalist, religion should be about 127th on the list of things he has to worry about.
Well, I see Dr. Goebbels who said that national socialists are a political party, so we provide a better temporal existence while the church sees to it that our people go to heaven.
And that seems to be a rational way to think of.
I take my faith very seriously.
But the idea that a party is about politics, that's why it's a political party.
While our religious convictions should not be impeded by the party, but at the same time should not dominate something that is about a temporal existence.
Well, I always get a giggle when I hear some of these idiots referring to Nazi Germany as anti-Catholic.
Number one, the Third Reich had a Concordat with the Vatican.
Number two, Adolf Hitler himself was...
Technically speaking, a Roman Catholic, and he maintained his church ties to the Catholic Church until the day he died, not because he believed in Catholicism, but for the simple reason that it was something his mother wanted him to do.
And he was very close to his mother, and he honored her wish for the rest of his life.
And she died, I think, before 1900, and yet Hitler kept up his ties for all that length of time.
The idea that Christianity and National Socialism are in some way incompatible just plain isn't true.
I knew a German Catholic priest in Rhodesia who had been an SS chaplain in his younger days.
And so it's just not correct.
And our pagan comrades, some of the best people in the NF right now, are of that particular persuasion.
Where the problem with religion comes in the movement is there is a very strong element among us which has been encouraged by various people and situations, which I won't get into, of people who are anti-Christian first and pro-white second.
Right.
The classic example is one of the largest Klan rallies I ever went to was in Pulaski, 1989.
You can actually find a video of me speaking at that rally somewhere on YouTube if you look around.
And there were people at that event who were passing out literature from a certain violently anti-Christian cult that hanged around on the periphery of the movement, calling Jesus a dead you on a stick.
That is how you're going to win over white people.
This is really bright.
Most white people in America consider themselves to be nominally Christian.
Their Christianity admittedly sits rather lightly on most of them, but the simple fact is that they will not tolerate any movement that is violently and overtly blasphemous or obscenely anti-Christian.
Not so much because they're offended in their religious beliefs, but because it's just, it's crude.
It's not done.
Things like that are considered to be a mark of poor breeding.
Basically, a lot of the people in the Old South had that attitude towards people like the Klan and the extreme anti-black element.
You know, you didn't use certain words, and you didn't talk against the Negro all the time, and you didn't do this, because it was a mark of poor breeding.
I've told people that, in my opinion, there are two things that the Northwest Front must never, ever, in any way, shape, or form be associated with.
That is, anti-Christianity and homosexuality.
We can't have either one of those.
When they think Northwest Front, those two concepts and terms and ideas must never, ever come to their mind.
Now, on actually one of your points, why do you think in the alternative right movement, I mean, obviously not amongst us, but among more of the suit faction, you know, I've always considered myself more in the boot category, you know, coming from a rural agricultural area, you know, in the country, but it seems many of these suit white nationalists, either there's an increasing number of public homosexuals, or they're more permissive of homosexuals.
Why is that?
Are you familiar with something called the Manerbund?
As far as I know, it has no actual existence outside the internet.
I hope God not.
This gets back to a trend which appeared about 10 years ago in the movement.
Things that the internet has facilitated, unfortunately, all these little weirdos getting together online and coming up with these things.
I am of two minds as to whether or not this is something that's actually legitimate in the sense that it came out of our movement or whether this is something that's being run by somebody with another agenda, ADL or some intelligence agency or whatever, some type of black op or false flag to disrupt things.
I can't imagine anything more disruptive than this type of thing.
But the crux of movement modernization, as it is called, is that we must accept, A, homosexuals, and B, Jews, not only as members, but as leaders.
Because you see, the big thing right now is Muslims, Muslims, Muslims, Muslims.
It's all anti-Muslim.
The Muslims are the enemy.
I've seen some of these people saying that we must accept.
part of the European tradition, and yes, they are a bad part.
The black sheep part.
Yeah, and then we must accept homosexuals because, quote, unquote, it doesn't matter what you do in bed, it just matters what you do in the street.
The trouble is these people aren't doing anything in the street.
It's just like these people that tell us in the Northwest, well, I ain't moving the Northwest, Harold.
I'm going to stand and fight.
Okay, fine.
Stand and fight.
I mean, if the League of the South or any Confederate group ever did start standing and fighting in the South, I would say, okay, guys, looks like I was wrong with this Northwest thing.
Those guys down in the South are doing it.
Let's go down South and join the Confederate Army or whatever.
But, of course, that's not going to happen.
We use these terms like standing and fighting very loosely.
But anyway, what I'm getting back to with this whole movement modernization thing, the whole idea is that we have to compromise our principles for the sake of a limited, immediate gain.
And in Europe, that has worked.
Certain outfits like the BMP and the Front National have gained local council seats and become European MPs.
They're able to get their snouts into the taxpayer trough along with the other political group and accomplished absolutely nothing.
And we now see in Europe the result of all of this right-wing activity and all of these Dixmude rallies and all of this marching in the street and whatnot that they do in Europe.
It's not damn good at all.
My view is if we're going to compromise our principles to that degree for the sake of whatever short-term gain might be available, if we're going to accept Jews, We might as well just stay home.
Are we going to engage in this long political struggle to create a world that is somewhat similar to our own, except with no Muslims?
It's insane.
And like I said, I don't have any proof, and I don't want to go off on long paranoid conspiracy theories, but I am open to the suggestion that the people who are pushing, who are really behind this movement modernization thing, and this modern bond, and this idea that we have to accept Jews and queers, I think they are, shall we say, operating on it.
Well, and it seems to me that many of those outfits are amazingly well-financed, if you know what I mean.
They never seem to be lacking for any of the resources.
is, well, activists, if you actually stand against Jewish power and talk about it, you're putting your own money into it, and the meager donations you can get up.
So the idea of nationalists who, if you are going to combat the system of Jewish power, then you will be not flush with cash, as they would say.
But nationalists that support this idea of being philo-Semitic and pro-homosexual Yeah.
Okay.
I'm a little bit hesitant to say things like this because, who knows, maybe one day we will get it together and there will be a legitimate group that is able to raise money.
So I could be being premature here and I don't want to necessarily cast aspersions on people who are sincere and genuinely trying whenever we may think of their ideas.
But I have always been suspicious when any group of ours displays Mm-hmm.
publication on glossy paper.
And with, of course, in the old days, even before that, the best mark of professionalism was actually a justified right-hand margin.
I remember when I was editing White Power in the 1970s, and I actually had to hand justify.
Every type line of type in that newspaper, I would type it first, and then type a code like B3 for blue 3, G1 for green 1, Y6 for yellow 6, etc.
And then I would have to retype the whole story using those codes, and that would justify the type.
I'm really having difficulty not getting into specifics here.
I know because I get in a lot of trouble because I have a tendency to name names.
I don't want to get you in trouble, Mr. Cunnington.
We'll kind of move on to another subject.
One of the marks of a genuinely sincere group is going to be a constant shortage of money.
We are in the process of having fund appeal right now here in the Northwest, and it's doing about as well as I expected, but not nearly well enough.
Living the bohemian lifestyle.
Yeah.
I mean, I slept on a mattress on the floor for many years and I actually didn't get a proper bed until about four years ago.
I have never in my life owned a chest of drawers to put my socks and my underwear in because it's just too heavy and I've had to move too much.
For many years, I have had to restrict my whole lifestyle to what could be piled into a station wagon or a vehicle.
And as recently as 1998, at the age of 45, I was required by circumstances to reduce my entire life to a single suitcase.
Now, there's nothing glamorous and there's nothing adventurous.
But people keep telling me, "Oh, Harold, you've had this adventurous life." No, actually, it was...
Adventurous is not the word I would use.
The Chinese say to their enemies, may you live in interesting times.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Another favorite Chinese saying of mine, be careful what you wish for, you may get it.
So the question is, Mr. Covington, again, I apologize both to you and to the listeners for some tech gremlins, but...
How can people get involved?
How can they learn more about the Northwest Front?
Well, the first thing you can do is go to our party's website at northwestfront.org.
That's northwestfront, all one word,.org.
And we also have a backup site at northwestfront.net.
You need to look over what you find on the website there.
If you like what you see, you need to get in touch with me at nwnet, that's n-w-n-e-t, at earthlink.net, and I will send you an introductory packet of party literature that will include a copy of our party's handbook, the white book as we call it, and we can take it from there.
Now, what happened exactly when your books, where your novels really flesh out the idea of the Northwest Front?
What exactly happened?
The Jews called, shut it down.
After that kid in Charleston went berserk with a gun last June, we got quite a bit of publicity in Guardian and Politico.com, and my novels were mentioned.
And the lefty blogs have long been on a kick about how science fiction is supposed to be.
Right-wing racist and fascist and so forth and so on.
And for some reason, I never considered myself this, but I was portrayed in The Guardian as a quote-unquote right-wing science fiction writer.
And Dylann Roof was supposed to be one of my followers.
And the way that came about is he actually mentioned the Northwest Front in his little manifesto he put out.
Although he rejected the Northwest Front, he said no, he wanted to be a good old Southern boy and revive the Confederacy.
He did not want to come to the Northwest.
But the fact is, even though it was a negative mention, that got us quite a bit of attention.
And so, at some point, obviously, somebody made a call to the particular Jewish conglomerate that had bought out all three of the publishing companies that I had used down through the years, over 15 years, to publish my works.
And I was notified in July that they would no longer be publishing, handling, or printing my books.
I used something called Print for Order, which a lot of authors these days do.
I have found on the internet, first off, there was a cutoff date of August 14th, and a lot of people ordered books before that cutoff date.
And since then, I've found my books are still available online, even though they're not coming from the original publishers.
I have a reason why, which I won't discuss here, that may be the reason that they are still available, but it also could be that these are just existing copies that are still available for sale.
So you can get Covington novels.
I am also taking steps to make sure that they are republished in hard copy form, and of course, if anyone wants a copy of any of my Northwest novels or any other of my books, they can simply contact me and I'll send them a PDF file.
So if they don't mind reading a novel on their computer or a tablet, something like that, Now, could you just explain to the listeners, because the first book in the series is actually...
The last book in the series.
That thing started, it just sort of developed a life of its own.
I recommend that people read The Brigade first, because that is probably the book that I will be remembered for, insofar as I'm remembered at all.
But basically, it developed into a mythos, if you want to call it that.
It started out with The Hill of the Ravens.
You can tell that The Hill of the Ravens was the first book ever written because there's a lot of stuff that's not in there that was in the later books when I started developing the Northwest mythos, if you want to call it that.
But there's a total of five novels.
They are The Hill of the Ravens, A Distant Thunder, A Mighty Fortress, The Brigade, and Freedom's Sons.
Now, I think Freedom's Sons actually might be, in the long run, the most important.
It's also the longest of the books.
It took me two years to write it.
It goes through the first 50 years of the Northwest American Republic's existence in my fictional world, and it shows how the Republic deals with the many various problems that we will almost certainly have to deal with in real life.
Now, I understand that the way this eventually happens, and it will happen in one form or another, I'm convinced, will probably not be anything like what I write in my books.
But I do talk about things like establishing a government.
Setting up a valid currency, security, becoming energy independent, and things like that.
These are very real political issues and economic issues that we're going to have to deal with as an independent country.
And then I get into the longest section of the book, which is the second section, wherein...
We deal with this thing, well, Harold, they would never let us do that.
They'd just nuke us.
Well, they'll never let that happen, blah, blah, blah.
And so it deals with an attempt by the United States of America to reconquer the Northwest and how that is defeated.
And the last two sections deal with...
It's called Life in the Northwest, among those who survived both the Revolution and the later war, and how life kind of, you know, progresses and develops for the people in the Northwest Republic.
So, Freedom of Sons actually, I think, is the most pertinent book of possibly a lot, but it's also the longest, and I know a lot of Americans eat this.
The Twitter generation.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
I mean, they're used to 140 characters, and here I'm giving them, you know, 400,000 words.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, actually, I can't remember now.
I looked at War and Peace.
I can't remember if Freedom of Sons is longer than War and Peace.
Anyway, so those are Northwest novels, and I get a lot of my people jump off over me for this.
Harold, Harold, how can you expect to raise money if you give it away?
But these Northwest novels are not intended to finance my jet-set lifestyle.
They're not written or published to make money.
They are written and published in order to convey ideas.
And so if someone wants to get in touch with me, I will give away free copies.
But, like I said, it'll be in PDF form.
Any chance for a sixth?
Say pardon?
Any chance for a sixth book?
Realistically, probably not.
Number one, we are actually getting into some more concrete things here with the Northwest Front, and my time is pretty much gobbled up by various things I'm doing.
And number two, I'll be honest with you, I'm kind of envied out.
Five books is quite a bit.
I spent about ten years on this whole series.
Even Arthur Conan Doyle eventually got so sick of Sherlock Holmes he killed him off.
I know he was forward to revive him, but they'll...
Well, on that note, Mr. Covington, what are your final thoughts for our dear listeners?
Come home.
Do it now.
Right now we can see the United States beginning the process of breaking up.
You want to come home here to the Pacific Northwest, get something here, make a life here.
Sink some roots here and do it now before you have to flee with nothing but the clothing on your back.
One of the most important chapters I ever wrote in any of my books was chapter 5, I believe it was, of Freedom Sons, where it's like 10 months or so after the revolution, the Northwest Republic has just been established, and this blue-collar working guy in Chicago comes home from work, and he's just been laid off because his job is being shipped to Guatemala.
So he comes home and he finds a dead black lying on his living room floor because his 16-year-old son has just shot this primate because he came in wearing a quasi-police badge and tried to take his 13-year-old sister down to the local club for an interrogation.
And so all of a sudden, it's it.
This family is now forcibly face-to-face confronted with the issue of race in a way that...
It cannot be escaped, cannot be evaded, cannot be finessed.
Race has just come up and finally slapped this family in the face and there's no escape.
Well, in this case, there is.
The Northwest Republic has just been established.
And so this family has to flee from Chicago with an old battered van and about $400 that they can scrape up and nothing else put the clothes on their backs.
And that chapter deals with their trials and tribulations.
It's trying to get through to the Northwest as refugees.
And get through the McBurton.
Don't come to the Northwest as a refugee.
Come now.
Plan your escape.
Plan your migration.
Come home, white man.
The time is now.
Well, I think that is a good way to be able to end.
Thank you, dear listeners.
And of course, Mr. Covington, I think this is going to go over very well and would love to be able to have you on again, sir.
Tomorrow is always too late.
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