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QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.
As always, we are your host, Jake Rakotansky, Annie Kelly, and Travis View.
A very happy new year to you all, my beloved QAA listeners.
It's your UK correspondent, Annie Kelly, broadcasting to you today.
I'm back from my sabbatical for the Cursed Media Podcast Network, where I explored the beautiful and deranged world of Tradwives on Instagram and TikTok in the mini-series Truly Trad A Deeply.
Today, though, I'm going to be taking a much-needed holiday from working in the genderminds.
And I want to talk to you about something completely different.
That is, what exactly is Travel YouTube's problem, and why so many vloggers seem to be obsessed with coming to my country's capital city, London, and acting like they've just entered a war zone?
I mean, yeah, it sounds like, yeah, as the hottest trend is filming things and acting scared.
Yeah.
No, completely.
I mean, as I was writing this episode, it was actually getting annoying how much more new videos of this type were coming out.
I mean, yeah, it's a guaranteed hit.
It's like I walked around and I was terrified.
And it's like, I don't know, very strange behavior.
My interest in this topic began with a chat with a friend of mine.
I don't know if this is the same for you guys, but in my social life, I've found that I've become something of an official sounding board for when my friends see something weird online and want to talk about it.
This friend said that he'd always enjoyed travel content on YouTube.
Less the polished, aspirational, influencer kind, but more the type which takes you off the beaten track to places that don't tend to be tourism hotspots.
But increasingly, my friends said he'd seen a few YouTubers from this space transform and appear to radicalise, that many of them had started dropping words and phrases he'd only heard from places like the Manosphere or the online far right.
Then, last month, a small bit of buzz on social media caught my eye.
The South African travel YouTuber Kurt Kaz had been caught using AI to alter the thumbnail for his latest video set in London.
Here's an image with the original shot from the video next to the thumbnail.
Can you guys tell me what subtle differences you spot here?
There seems to be Arabic characters that are on the shops instead of what was the, according to the original, there are normal, I guess, English words on the shops.
Okay, and this is so upsetting to look at this picture and see what he's edited.
In the original image, he's pointing at a, what looks like a brown-skinned gentleman who is smiling at him.
The filmer is giving the guy the thumbs up.
And in the edited thumbnail, that smiling black man is now just a guy with a ski mask on who's looking menacingly at the host.
And the host is no longer throwing a thumbs up to him.
He has removed that thumbs up of approval.
And now it looks like the two are in some sort of stare down.
Yeah, that's right, actually.
I hadn't spotted that before, Jake.
The thumbs up is gone, which does give it a much more menacing feel.
Along with, yeah, giving the guy a balaclava so it looks like he's kind of menacing the YouTuber.
Yeah, also just the nonsense Arabic AI as well.
Like, it doesn't even look convincing, and I'm not pretending to be an expert in Arabic at all, but neither of those, like, look like it means anything.
It actually gets worse when you watch the video, which is called Avoid This Place in London.
In this clip, you can see that the man on the bike who Kaz chose to misrepresent as threateningly approaching him wearing a balaclava was actually just a fan of his who was honestly being friendly.
Oh my god.
It was a fan.
Yeah.
It was a fan.
It's not even just like a smiling guy on the street, like, hey.
Yeah, no, he genuinely says, like, well, we'll listen to it.
But yeah, he likes Kurt Kaz's content.
I swear to God, these modern-day fascists are literally just the meme of the guy putting the stick in his own bicycle wheel and falling over the front of the bar.
So, the hostile vibes have begun.
Yeah, awesome.
Yeah, oh, you two, Facebook.
What the fuck?
Yeah, what's right?
Let's check.
Okay, okay.
You see, there are friendly people here, too.
Amongst the hostiles.
Oh, here we go.
Yeah.
Nice one, man.
My goodness, just surrounded by, surrounded by hostels.
Goodness gracious me.
You know, it's so strange.
If you live in a civilized society.
Nice one, man.
Man, you got some serious skill, huh?
If you live in a shit, appreciate it, man.
Yeah, appreciate it.
What's your name again on the Kurtz?
Kurtz.
Yeah, that's it, Bros.
Yeah, you're savage as well.
Take care, man.
Yeah.
My brother, good to see you.
Likewise, man.
Take care.
Take care.
You see, they are nice people.
Like, an interaction like that would lift, would put wind in my wings for like a week and a half.
Like, if I was walking through London and some guy was like, hey, hey, Jake Rokotensky, ah, from the QA.
Oh, man.
Yeah, subscribe to the premium.
I would walk away from that interaction being like, wow, like depression?
Like, who are you?
Like, I'm somebody.
You know what I mean?
Like, and this guy's like, ah, hostility all around.
Like, ah, this guy, he's like, I wish this guy would stop coming up to me and being so good, damn friendly.
You can sort of tell how sort of this interaction actually took the wind out of his sails because it's like he's trying to hype up how scary it is, but he keeps being interrupted by this friendly fan who's smiling and fist bumping and like riding his bike around and so happy to see him.
And it's so leave him alone.
So he feels a little awkward trying to hype up how scared he was when obviously that is just not a scary environment he's walking around in.
The guy is trying to do tricks in front of you like your nephew on Christmas.
You know what I mean?
He's trying to show he's willing to put his own life in danger because you said put a wheelie, bro.
You know what I mean?
Like, like, this guy is.
Oh, this is.
Oh, wow.
Only on this show do I experience this level of my eye.
You can't see me, but my eyes are closed.
My head is kind of vibrating from left to right.
I just, it's amazing to me to watch people deny reality like in real time as it happens to them.
Oh, fascinating stuff.
Okay, sorry.
I'm derailing.
Go.
No, no.
I mean, I really agree.
I mean, when I was watching it, I was like, I can't believe this stuff made it into the final footage because it seems to, yeah, as you say, it seems to just, it seems to be annoying him.
He's trying to go on this rant about how he's surrounded by hostiles, how threatening everything is.
And yeah, it's bizarre to me that he kept this in in a way because it just so undermines everything that he's trying to say.
In fact, right after he gets interrupted by the man showing off his wheelie, he starts to go on another grim rant about all the hostiles surrounding him.
Only for yet another local to get curious about what he's doing.
Kaz has a friendly exchange with him before getting right back to his dark and gloomy mutterings.
It's actually just kind of comical to me how unhostile the supposed hostiles are here.
Menacing.
There he goes.
There he goes.
So it's characters like this that live amongst us, that are just ticking time bombs, you know, they...
Sorry?
What's it for?
For the internet.
We're going to show him an interview.
Yes.
What are the channels?
Kurt's Kaz.
Now, you get characters like this that just hang around these city centers that are just ticking time bombs, just waiting to erupt.
Just waiting to calmly walk past me.
I mean, this is like, I don't know, it's like one of the most famous sort of like television sort of fails in history was the story of like a Geraldo who promised he's going to open up Al Capone's vault real time, expecting there'd be some sort of like, you know, weapons or like secret documents or like, you know, wealth inside.
And there was nothing inside.
And he kind of like he sort of sheepishly admitted that like, yeah, it was kind of a bust.
But like this guy is just doing like the Geraldo's vault, just I guess like in like real life.
And like he's not.
The whole shit about the Geraldo's vault thing is that it was live.
But this is like this edited thing where he claims that he's going to find some going to this, you know, this scary place to uncover something, something really extraordinary.
But it's just really just a pleasant, clean little neighborhood.
It's so funny to imagine this guy like getting really frustrated editing this clip because he's like, ah, he's like, ah, that's a great shop, but the people are smiling there.
It looks too friendly.
Like, there's too many white people in this frame.
Like, I gotta lose this.
Like, maybe if I use this angle, just like, just like working extra hard to try to actually have the footage show the narrative that he's, you know, that he's dictating.
And this is still the best he could come up with.
There was something intriguing to me about this vignette.
Kurt Kaz rose to fame on YouTube five or so years ago by building a profile as a fearless adventurer who takes his audience to the grimier, less tourist-friendly sides of Latin America with videos like Drinking Inside Peru's Amazon Ghetto and Inside the Dominican Republic's Most Dangerous Hood.
Boosted by the success of these videos, Kaz traveled even further afield with videos like A Mission Deep into Forgotten Vietnam or Extreme Tourism in Bangladesh, which starts with this memorable opening where he hangs off the front of a train with some locals.
yes that i just met station i'm going to go look for some booze now i don't know if you guys know but bangladesh is a muslim majority country so that's going to be a little bit challenging i'm up for the challenge so let's go check it out
This is the railway line here in Dhaka.
This is how a lot of the locals that can't afford to buy tickets have to travel outside of the train.
My God, is that damn, that does look like a pretty cool experience.
Yeah, that looks awful.
Authenticity, the sense that Kaz was showing you real places and real people rather than an advertisement was a big part of his brand.
Once you've watched enough of his videos, you can see this becomes a bit of a repetitive refrain in his stream of consciousness style monologues as he wanders around, such as this one from Mexico in 2021.
As always, guys, I am in the more local part of town, looking for something to eat, once again.
So, let's go.
I hate it when people are like, Kurt, why do you always go to the local places?
Stick to the tourist places.
No, that's not why you should go to a country.
If you want to see the tourist places, you can just see them on YouTube or on Google.
I mean, it's so boring.
I go to the tourist places and the local places to try the special stuff, the good shit.
I have to say, from these clips, he seems like actually a really entertaining YouTuber.
And see, I don't get anything from these two clips.
You shelby.
seemed like a guy i would enjoy watching yeah i was gonna i was gonna ask like and and i know it's probably the answer probably isn't relevant because videos from a lot longer ago have more time to rack up views but i i guess as i was watching this i was sort of curious if his his new fear-mongering like you know racist videos are the you are they doing better than the stuff when he genuinely seems to be doing it for the love of the game?
Yeah, it's as you say, it's kind of hard to tell because, yeah, as you say, views do accrue, and so unless you're getting like the instantaneous metrics on how well stuff is doing then compared to now, it's sort of difficult to see.
But as far as I can tell, his kind of new, very heavily sort of racist stuff does not seem to be doing badly at all.
Having said that, this stuff was very popular, and I did at one point pop over to his subreddit just to see what I guess people who've been watching him for a long time have been saying, and it seems to be like quite a common theme of people saying there, and on his Instagram actually, oh, I miss the old Kurt.
When are you going to bring this stuff back?
We're sick of you.
We're sick of you just wandering around Europe and complaining and starting fights and stuff like that.
So I think, yeah, even though it seems to be that this content doesn't seem to be hurting him, it seems that at least some of his fan base are in kind of revolt over it, but I can't tell how much.
And I would have to imagine that he's acquiring new fans based on what the content is like now.
So.
Yeah, that's always that's always such a it's like a like the third act of like an internet horror movie is when your fan base like starts to switch and you start to you start to cater to the new darker.
Yeah, the new darker sort of vibes.
But yeah, as you guys point out, it seems like a drastic change to go from this philosophy of, you know, authenticity, of seeking out the local, of seeing what a country is really like speaking to real people, to just mocking up some AI slop when the local people that you've come to depict as dangerous and threatening don't behave accordingly.
Now, to be clear, I'm not saying that Kaz's old content was entirely unproblematic.
I will admit, there is a lot to like.
He's not really doing much new with the format, but he's a charismatic guy, and it is pretty fun to watch him bounce around busy markets and deserted backstreets all over the world like a human Google street view.
He also undeniably has a great ability to interact, joke around, and find common ground with people who lead very different lives to his own.
But there was always an uncomfortable sense of exploitation watching a well-off white guy parading around desperately poor parts of the world for our amusement.
Kaz's determination to show his audience the criminal underworld of the countries he was visiting came with pretty severe risks for the people he filmed.
A fact he seemed blithely unconcerned about.
There are even allegations that his viral videos may have resulted in jail time for some of the subjects.
This claim comes from Timmy Carter, another travel YouTuber and former collaborator of Kaz's, who visited Cuba after him.
Carter claimed that locals told him that the subjects of Kaz's videos about criminal activity there, like selling cigars on the black market or street prostitution, had been convicted as a result of his content, which had not blurred out any faces and even in one case showed the location of the cigar seller's house.
He exposed them, he doesn't give any apart of the views.
He exposed the person's place, what they do, their faces, their names.
And now this guy's gonna stay in jail for 20 years because of Kerd Kak.
Cuba's Tourist Trap00:05:13
Then he was just lingering his little taxi.
Two girls talked to him.
She complained as a tourist.
He put their faces on his video.
These two young girls now, they're gonna spend in prison 20 years because of Kerd Kak.
And guys, I'm super excited, super angry because wherever I go here in Cuba with my camera, people look at me like this because they think I'm Kert Kak.
Those girls were following us around, waiting for us to invite them somewhere.
That's a typical thing here in Cuba.
You gotta be careful.
Do you know?
Trust.
Every single Cuban hate Kirt Kak because he came here and exposed the local people.
Guys, Cuba is not like another country.
It's not India, Brazil, Colombia.
That you're gonna go there and expose a scammer or you're gonna expose something funny.
You cannot expose people here.
Almost everything is illegal.
And the moment you put this person on a video, he's done.
Police comes.
Police finds him in five minutes.
Prison, 20 years.
You don't understand what Cuba is.
You don't understand, guys, what this place is.
And Kert Kak knew exactly what he was doing because he came here and all of his videos are negative.
Avoid these girls in Cuba.
All these videos, guys, he will end up, these guys, these people go to jail.
Because there's a law here in Cuba.
It's a very strict law.
If you're a tourist here, you're basically a king.
And if you're a native here, you're basically a nobody.
And Mr. Kertkak knew exactly what he was doing because you will never come in Colombia or Brazil.
Do that.
Wow.
Yeah, it's not good.
These little boys with their video cameras, they have no idea the repercussions, you know, the ripples that they create in all of these communities.
And then just to not even give us the real shit, by the way, to just come back and use AI to fudge your, you know, to fudge the thumbnail.
It's not even real.
Yeah.
And I know I'm supposed to be taking a break from my work in the gender minds, but you can't really talk about Kaz's content without talking about the way he treats women.
He's always been very happy to sexualize the young women that he meets in a way that feels very exploitative, making sure to include the most revealing pose he can manage in the video thumbnail and using suggestive titles like Kenyan Girl Takes Me to Secluded Beach or Venezuelan Girl Lets Me in Her House.
In that video, when he follows a Venezuelan woman in question up some steps, Kaz zooms in on her body in a way that honestly made me feel more like I was watching sex tourist content than anything else.
Actually, I don't know why I'm being like polite about this.
A lot of his content made me feel like I was watching sex tourist content.
He seems like a um he seems like a bad guy.
Yeah, or just completely amoral, I guess, in the way that so many of these YouTubers are.
Do you know that you just sort of keep on working with what works, what gets views, what gets clicked, and you don't really have any other kind of ethical, ethical practice other than that.
Like, you know, I bet if he'd blurred out the cigar, the Cuban cigar seller's face, then that would have been less clicks for him because people, you know, that's less attractive to people than people seeing that they're watching, you know, something unfiltered, something raw.
So he doesn't do it.
You know, obviously he gets more clicks if you put a pretty girl in the thumbnail, if you, yeah, you know, film her body and things like that.
Yeah, just the way that it feels like a lot of these YouTubers seem to just be kind of working to that rubric and that rubric alone, do you know?
And what's so sad to me is that it, like, it costs nothing for him to blur the face and go, guys, I blurred the face here because you don't understand the way things are in Cuba.
And if I, if I put the man's, you know, face on video, he could be arrested.
The laws are really strict here.
I mean, he could be educated, you know, he could be, but he chooses not to.
It doesn't like expend any more like muscle activity to, I don't know, not do it the way that he, you know, not doing it his way.
Yeah, but it probably just gets you, you know, a couple, couple thousand, couple ten thousand less views.
And if that's the only ratio you're working to, then yeah, why would you?
You're not even thinking about the human being.
You're just looking at the data and going, oh, I noticed like, I noticed this where I was a little bit nicer.
I ended up getting, yeah, like 100,000 less views.
So, okay, I was really mean in this video, and that did very well.
So, I'm just going to try to keep that energy going forward.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just like Mr. Beast A-B testing like different kinds of smile or facial expression and his thumbnails, except it's just what kind of human you're going to be.
They should have never given us the internet.
They really should have.
Now, we should have never gotten it.
From what I could find in my research, it looks like Kaz was actually looking to lean into the Manosphere Andrew Tate-style guru form of Griff for a while, starting a site called The Conquest, where fans could supposedly get access to exclusive videos and the chance to interact with Kaz himself on private forums, but for whatever reason, it didn't seem to work out.
Conquest is now just a humble, very ugly clothing store.
Kaz's depictions of London, I found, were part of a more recent series where the YouTuber visited European cities like Frankfurt, Brussels, Barcelona, and Lisbon, and told his audience the same thing about all of them.
Drunk Videos of Expensive, Ugly Cities00:15:15
They're dirty, crime-ridden hellholes, and it's all because of mass immigration.
It's worth mentioning here, too, that this is a large audience that Kaz is speaking to.
At my last count, it was just over 4 million subscribers.
It seemed bizarre to me that that many people could be interested in watching Kaz kick around the streets of these major cultural hubs and offer nothing more interesting than the repeated whine over and over that these major cities are home to lots of people who aren't white.
Here he is in Rome, for example.
Look at this.
Look at the fing states of the city.
This is Rome, guys.
This looks like in Bangladesh or something.
Look at this, guys.
Look at the states of this place.
Look at this, guys.
This is Rome.
This is Europe.
Does this look like Europe to you?
I don't see a single Italian here, guys.
I am more Italian than any of these people.
Well, I mean, it looks like, God.
I mean, it looks like, you know, an international city that has a lot of tourists from all over the world in it.
Yeah, I mean, this is, yeah.
So, some of you might know that my husband, Paul, does a podcast about ancient history, and he actually just lost his mind when I told him about this clip.
He just couldn't, he couldn't get his head around it.
He was like, Rome?
You're going to Rome and complaining that there are lots of people from different countries doing commerce there?
Like, do you know how do you know about anything about the city where you are?
This is like going to Thai town or like Koreatown in LA and pulling the camera out and be like, look at this, guys.
Look at Korean people are taking over.
Does this look like America to you?
Does this look like America to you?
Korean people are to look another car dealership.
Korean people, they're taking over everything.
Or coming up to my neighborhood and being like, and being like, oh, the Armenians are taking, they've taken over America.
I'm more American than anybody here.
It's just, I don't know.
Part of me is like the people who like this content and the people who watch it and go, wow, wow, this country is being invaded.
You know, they already believed that.
You know, they already want to believe that.
I think it's, there's so little space between common sense of being like, oh, he's just going to like a local like mark.
Like, he's just going to like a market.
I don't know.
It's crazy.
Here's how he introduces a video about Berlin.
Gutenmorgen, and welcome to the biggest shit hole in all of Europe.
Full of lefties, crackies, engineers and doctors, and scammers.
It's the wild west out here, guys.
The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Minus the good parts.
Just the bad and the ugly.
And pretty gay.
Oh.
This seems so far removed from his video in like, I guess, Bangladesh, where he's like riding on a train, where he's like, you know, he seemed very interested and excited and how unusual is.
He's like just sharing sort of this, this, this local experience.
And here he's just sort of like strolling through a town, just talking about how angry and scared he is.
Yeah, exactly.
Like it, I don't know.
You know, I sort of think we can, there's a bit of a liberal naivety, I think, in this understanding that travel will always necessarily kind of broaden someone's horizons and make them more tolerant and accepting.
I think that's, that's true for some people, but it's obviously not true for everyone, do you know?
But I do sometimes struggle to, I mean, that video in Bangladesh was like a year ago.
I do sometimes struggle to kind of reconcile this kind of very adventurous kind of style that he's putting on.
And as you say, kind of, yeah, just walking through Berlin or Rome or wherever and just not even finding a single thing to enjoy, not even finding a single thing to say, oh, this is cool.
Oh, this is interesting.
Just constant whining and grumbling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As I was watching this video, I was asking myself, I was asking him in my head, like, who hurt you, dude?
Like, what happened to you?
Like, who broke your heart?
Something.
I don't know.
There's something, something happens, I think, that has to make you want to tatify yourself.
You know, he's got that Andrew Tate kind of slime about him.
And I don't know.
Like, I think that the guy who's on the front of the train, enjoying a local thrill, I would say, that's, you know, genuine to the area that he's exploring to this, it's like, I feel like something has to happen.
Maybe we'll get, maybe we'll find out.
I don't know if you came across anything in your research.
Yeah, I mean, I saw some people speculating actually that on his subreddit.
And again, I don't really know how true this is because I didn't really dig too deep into it.
That, yeah, he had a breakup at one point with, you know, a girl who featured in some of his videos.
And they sort of said, oh, after that, he started getting kind of a bit more like bitter, a bit more, you know, manosphere oriented.
But I think it's also just kind of more likely that he just got radicalized.
I think one thing that we've talked about on this podcast before that I think people who don't really know much about radicalization are often surprised by is how quick it is.
Yeah.
Right.
We see that with QAnon and things like that, how people kind of think there's going to be this really long, slow kind of marinading.
But often people, it really does seem like people do flip on in a very short space of time.
And as I say, you know, with, you can see with the stuff like Cuba, that that kind of callousness, that kind of indifference to other people was always there in him, even when he was doing the more fun, adventurous content.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's tough to say.
It's interesting.
Well, and I was going to add to that that, you know, that callousness, like the idea, I'm trying to imagine a career in which the sort of the vibe is like, oh, I have to go to another like overrun, dangerous, scary place and like let everybody know that like it's not safe to travel here anymore.
Like the idea of being like, of like travel itself sucks.
Like the planes, the planes are getting smaller.
The tickets are getting more expensive.
Like the snacks, the snacks are getting barer.
And, you know, but to imagine to be getting on, to be traveling all these places, going like, oh, all right, well, if not like the former, what I just said, then it's like, okay, I'm heading into this place and I've got to make it look as shady, as unsafe, as scary for white people as possible.
Like that is just, imagine going into every situation looking for the scariest, most negative thing, or like, yeah, expecting that it's going to be like that.
I don't think this guy is going like, I'm going to go to Hawaii and have like a really good time.
And then he gets there and he's like, oh, I'm actually, this place is like kind of scary.
It's like me when I went to New Orleans for a wedding and I was like out during the day and I was like, this is beautiful.
I was like, oh, the food and the music echoing in from, oh, this is like wonderful.
But then the sun went down and like the streets started to get filled and it was like a bunch of like really drunk people and people were flashing, flashing and getting beads and it wasn't even Mardi Gras.
I was like, they do the flashing and the beats the whole year round.
And like, I was like, these people, oh no.
And everybody was getting so drunk and aggressive and there's like a huge police presence because like it's fucked up.
Like, you know, they're out there making sure people are safe.
And I was like, oh, I'm scared now, actually.
Like, I gotta get back to my hotel.
But it was, you know, that was a discovery in the moment.
I didn't go there being like, I'm gonna be so fucking scared.
These drunk people at night, they're having so much fun.
And like, I'm scared, but like, I gotta let other like stoners know that, you know, at nighttime, you know, the drunk people, the drunk people are out.
They're like, they got more energy than you.
They got the cocaine.
Yeah, I'd love to see.
I'd love to see that travel vlog.
That sounds very entertaining.
But yeah, exactly.
It's like, I don't know, this seems exhausting to me.
So I have to imagine he must be making money.
I looked at the merch shop very bad.
Yeah, it's so ugly, isn't it?
And it's all like Norse right.
It's like Nazi-coded Norse writing and having the word conquest split up.
Like, I'm sure there's like, I'm sure at night when he's like really drunk or whatever, he's like, hey, check it out.
If you fold the conquest label three ways, it makes a perfect swastika.
Yeah, I mean, it's like camouflage.
So it's like camo kind of tops and caps and things like that.
And then it's got the kind of, as you say, the sort of Nordic rune writing which says conquest.
Even if I didn't know about the merch and its association with Kirk Kaz, this YouTuber, if I saw anybody wearing that, I would get the it.
Yeah, I mean, and like, he is not going to these places to conquer them.
He is not, he is not embodying his brand because he gets there and he's just like, I'm so scared.
Look, he's like, look at this market.
He's like, they're selling Bach Joy or something in Rome.
Now, being totally fair to Kaz, I started this episode focusing on him because of the AI thing, but he didn't invent this kind of material.
In fact, as I began watching more of his videos and then what YouTube suggested to me next, I found that this kind of gonzo travel racism content was an entire genre on the platform, and it's extremely successful.
In fact, if you're a small travel vlogger trying to get your name out there, this kind of content might even be the key to getting your views up.
On some of the smaller channels I started looking into, you could see that their more innocuous, inoffensive content called stuff like Hiking Poland's Biggest Mountain Range or Journey to Tibet's Sacred Lake languished in terms of view count.
But any title with a negative slant about famous European cities like London, Paris, or Berlin, and particularly if they mentioned immigration, Sharia law or Islam, soared up.
Well, you know, if you are a racist American, this is how you can see the world.
It's like Rick Steves, you know?
Hey, you know, you don't want to get on a plane.
You can't afford the expensive plane tickets only for the elite.
Well, guess what?
You can go to all these places too and experience them the way that you would have experienced it.
Even though this seems to be a popular theme in lots of European cities, today's episode is going to focus on the material that's specifically being made about London.
That's mostly because it's the city that I know the best, but also because it seems to be a particularly hot spot for this trend right now.
And I think the political reasons behind that are worth exploring.
As someone who used to live in London, it really is baffling to me that there's so much appetite for videos of people wandering around some of its most diverse areas, grumbling under their breath about how few white people they can see.
It feels very fork-founding kitchen.
But it seems there's an incentive because it keeps getting made.
Here's another example from a smaller channel than Kirk Kaz's called Two Mad Explorers.
We made it to Whitechapel.
I'm not gonna lie to you guys, man.
Out of every 20 people, like out of every 20 people that we walk past, maybe two of them are actually English.
It's a bit of a shock.
We see videos, like we saw videos online about how bad the situation is here in London, but I didn't realize like the actual extent.
It's a mad situation.
This doesn't look any different.
This area here with the markets, all of this stuff here.
And these have probably been here for quite a long time.
I don't know.
The last time, the last time that I was in London would have been in 2016, so it's quite a while ago.
With these markets here, man, this looks like we just dropped ourselves into a slightly more developed, slightly cleaner India.
Bangladesh, somewhere like that.
No, if you go to Delhi, you want to see Indian culture.
If you go to Shanghai, you want to see Chinese culture.
If you go to England, at least in London, from a tourist perspective, it's quite difficult to find people of English ethnicity.
And I'm actually, I'm saying this really quietly because I'm scared that somebody's going to try to hit me.
Basically, which I've never been scared like this while filming videos usually.
It's very weird because I don't know.
I think about like, I guess, travel literature from like even like going back centuries that it was all about like how brave the traveler was and how they went to new places and did crazy things.
Like I went to Peru with I fell off a jaguar.
I ate roasted leaf cutter ants with the locals and like even though it was strange to me, I was able to brave through it and like I wasn't scared at all.
But like these people, it's like they're doing the opposite.
They're doing really mundane things, very boring.
They're just walking through the streets that's like not particularly interesting.
And they're talking about how terrified they are.
Yeah.
Being scared outside is just anxiety, guys.
Like they're just so uncurious that instead it's so much easier to be like, I think every person walking past me wants to kill me.
Yeah, I mean there's a bit in that video.
I haven't clipped it for this episode, but there's a bit where they leave their Airbnb, that couple, I believe they're a couple, and they're sort of very dramatically taking off all of their rings, all of their jewelry.
They're like, if you want to go outside in London, don't take anything you love with you.
And then the woman, she's walking through a park, which I have walked through.
I've walked through at daytime.
I've walked in, I've had drinks there in daytime.
I've walked through alone at night, like it's a safe park.
I've been there a lot of times.
And she's kind of near tears because she was saying, oh, I really didn't want to come here.
You know, I'm so scared coming here.
And it sort of seems very genuine.
And I'm just like, oh, yeah, it's just because you've watched all this content of other people being scared in London.
It's almost this kind of weird like circle where they consume all of this content.
The guy even at the beginning, he references, oh, we've seen videos of how bad it is here.
Then they come and reproduce that content because that content's taught them to be scared.
Yeah, it's like they're like RPing like a scared per like a scared person abroad.
Because I don't, I mean, I haven't seen any videos of these people being like assaulted or anything, you know, something that would make them, you know, potentially worried.
In fact, the only things that I've seen in all of the examples, at least that you've shown, are people being really nice or coming up and saying they're fans.
You know, it's it's really it's fascinating.
And I see I feel like this is such a pattern in so much of the like right wing influencer content and just the right wing kind of vibe in general is this like imagined oppression and this imagined threat that they I don't know.
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I don't know that it's I don't know if they believe it really or if it's just like an easy way to live because it takes I don't know it sort of takes you out of the picture is just like, hey, I'm just trying to survive, you know.
I don't know.
Here's another example, which is Karl Rock, who's an expat Kiwi living in India, getting in on the trend.
Now, to Rock's credit, his video is much less explicitly racialized than lots of the other ones I've seen, but it still seems to follow a similar pattern of going to a very multiracial area in London and gawking at the locals while talking up the danger in the most hysterical terms.
Brixton is actually a part of London I know pretty well.
I have family there and I've walked through these places alone thousands of times since I was a teenager.
So seeing it talked about like this felt pretty surreal.
People say that India's unsafe, but I've seen a lot here in Brixton, London, England.
It's another world, man.
There's just zombies standing in the street here.
It's crazy, man.
Can you believe this is in London?
And you won't believe this, but this is a police station right here, right behind me here.
That's the police station.
And all this is happening right outside.
I can't make this up.
There's somebody else drugged out here now as well.
Look at this guy.
This place, Brixton, is so dodgy.
Everybody's just out of their mind here.
Second guy in if just a couple of minutes.
There's dudes shooting up in the side lanes here.
What's going on, man?
There's even dudes on the corners and stuff.
It's like that TV show, The Wire.
Just a metropolitan area to me, it looks like to me.
Yeah, no, no.
Every urban area in the world has street vendors.
He's like, everybody is so fucked up as the camera zooms in on one fucked up guy.
Yeah, and I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not pretending that London is perfect and is perfectly run.
You know, I think it is sad when you see someone who's clearly got a drug problem living on the streets and someone, you know, you sort of think, oh, there should be, you know, there should be better services in place to help them.
There should be, London has a real homelessness problem, which, you know, that is a problem that we could be doing more to solve.
So I kind of want to be clear on this.
I'm not sort of, I'm not sort of being a sort of defensive person saying, you know, no one can come to London and criticize our many problems.
But I think stuff like this is not doing that.
It's, you know, I think it's simplistic.
I think it's sensationalist.
I mean, with stuff when he's going, oh, there's someone on drugs and he calls them a zombie and then it's like, oh, and right outside a police station.
It's like, well, what are the police supposed to be doing?
They're supposed to be just rounding up and arresting all of the drug addicts so that you, you, the tourists, can get your perfectly clean streets?
Because I don't think, I don't think that's somewhere I'd like to live either.
I also think that it's worth being said that if you have these white guys, these bald white guys with lots of tattoos and big beards, because when they turn the camera around to selfie mode, it's always like a bald one.
Hey, no offense, as somebody who's headed towards being a bald white guy, but it's like the tattoos, the big beards.
The last guy that we just watched had like an Adolf Hitler haircut.
So it's like, I think it's worth being said that you see these guys talking to themselves with either their phones out in front of them or worse, like some kind of camera, like GoPro on a stick or whatever, just coming into these areas and looking like kind of like on guard and they're videotaping and they're talking to themselves.
People are, I'm gonna, I'm gonna look at that person weirdly.
I'm gonna be like, what are they up to?
What are they filming?
What kind of content are they making?
Like, what is this guy?
You know?
And that in turn, they're like, ah, everybody's kind of looking at me funny as I walk through the street muttering to myself angrily with a camera in my hand.
Yeah, definitely.
I think, like, the few occasions I've seen where someone really does kind of confront them.
We'll get to a few examples later, but just off the top of my head, quite a lot of the time it's when they're like filming outside a mosque or somewhere like that.
And usually, yeah, you know, a young Muslim guy kind of comes up and it's like, what are you doing?
And I always think they always sort of have this kind of pretend sort of indignation where they're like, oh, what's this?
Why is this guy like bothering me?
I'm just filming.
And it's like, no, come on, that man knows exactly what kind of content you're making.
He knows exactly what you're saying.
Exactly.
He correctly understands that you were a threat.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think the sort of like faux naivety about that can really bother me.
And I wish I could just pretend that this was a problem of ignorant foreigners coming to our country and then suffering a heart attack when London doesn't look like it did in Mary Poppins or the Muppets Christmas Carol.
But it seems there are even British content creators who are willing to debase themselves with this kind of stuff.
Here's Neil McCoy Ward, one of those slightly predatory seeming finance channels who seems to do a sideline in what he calls real city tours.
Here he walks around Whitechapel.
We'll talk about this a bit more later, but nearly all of these videos are filmed in Whitechapel, largely because it's got a large Bangladeshi community.
This makes it a particularly ripe target for anyone who has found that there's easy money to be made in filming Asian people peacefully going about their business while you mutter about how extreme everything is.
Got the Metropolitan Police here closed off this road for some reason.
And this is just a random walk, by the way.
I haven't planned this route.
I'm not, I'm literally just walking down the street.
I can see why so many of you said that the video of London I did each year isn't a true reflection.
Then again, I don't know if this is a true reflection.
This is pretty extreme.
So I think you've got to take a balance of a bit of both.
Cheers for that.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
P***** bro. P***** bro.
He's on Twitter. P*****.
Okay, I've seen a white guy.
Hahaha.
Shout it out too loud.
Everyone I've spoken to, at least in this country, seems to recognise what I'm talking about when I mention this kind of content.
The narrative that the UK is slowly collapsing and its lawless, multi-ethnic capital city is at the center of its decline is extremely popular on social media and in the right-wing press here.
But despite its prevalence, it's been hard for me to find some kind of analysis of this content or even a name for it.
Strangely enough, the closest I've managed to find is from an unexpected source, the British right-wing outlet The Spectator, in a podcast episode from last month called Why is the US Obsessed with Britain's Decline?
There, the conservative journalists all commented on the fact that on their visits to the United States, they'd been subject to baffling interactions with Americans acting as if they were greeting a refugee from the Mad Max universe.
I had an American friend visit a few weeks ago, and she called me and said, I'm going to stay in this location in London.
Can you tell me if the area is safe?
She was staying in Knightsbridge.
I said, the only robbery you will face there is the cost of the minibar.
But still, there is a popular idea abroad in America that we are some kind of ground zero in the decline of Western civilization.
And I think it's worth remembering that 10 years ago, America thought this way about France.
At the time of the 2016 election, it was post-Charlie Ebdo, Battaclan, etc.
And much of the discourse in America was about you don't want to become France.
Since then, it's become you don't want to become Britain.
And that's because Britain's got real problems, which we can discuss.
But it's also because of a political phenomenon, which is the marrying of Trump and Brexiteers.
And as a consequence of that, America is just more conscious of what's going on in Britain than it used to be.
It's as if its telescope had swung slightly to the west.
And I think this is also a product of Trump himself.
He's an intelligent, intelligent person.
Yeah, I mean, it's funny because he is right about it being Paris and France that 10 years ago, I think, really was alive in the online American rights imagination.
I remember Lauren Southern, who was, I guess, the alt-right pin-up girl of the time, making this video where she just called it like walking through Paris or something.
And it was kind of exactly like this content.
She's just walking around and sort of filming all of these non-white people.
She doesn't have any include any commentary with it.
I think it's just meant to speak for itself.
Like, wow, can you believe this is Paris?
And yeah, I remember it going semi-viral at the time.
And I don't know, I remember just sort of at the time thinking like, well, what's Paris supposed to look like?
You know, it's not, it's not Paris's fault that you think it should look like Beauty in the Beast or something like that.
Do you know, like it's a major, major metropolitan city.
It doesn't look like it does in your kind of sort of quaint, picturesque, you know, sort of fairy tale imagination.
But yeah, I think it's, I thought it was a good point, essentially, that this kind of content actually has quite a long history and that it is connected with what is happening on the American right.
So yeah, maybe my expectations of conservative commentators in this country are too low, especially since one of those invited on the podcast was former Unheard editor Ed West, who wrote the book The Diversity Illusion, which The Guardian described as a brazen and breezily written polemic against multiculturalism.
But I thought that the episode actually ended up being a pretty thoughtful discussion on the anti-London social media phenomenon, which they labelled decline porn.
West and Daily Telegraph columnist Tim Stanley speculated, I think fairly, this online doomerism about London's future might actually say more about American anxieties about race and empire than the city itself.
But I mean, I think in terms of prestige and relative wealth, Britain did start to decline after the Second World War.
We did fall apart behind lots of other European countries.
I mean, Britain was the wealthiest country in Europe in 1938, for instance.
And we did massively fall behind after the Second World.
I mean, in the 70s, during our last sort of moment of crisis, Britain was a cautionary tale as well.
In 1973, 74, American politicians were always saying, you don't want to end up like Britain.
It's this kind of basket case.
And that wasn't entirely dissimilar to now.
I mean, I totally agree with your point about, you know, all these comparisons are about internal politics, because deep down, almost everyone cares far more about what's happening in their own little part of the world.
And they just use foreign countries as a kind of projection.
And obviously, elements of the American right become obsessed with the Second World War because they didn't want any foreign entanglement.
They don't want an empire.
They don't want the mass immigration that follows an empire.
And Britain is obviously the preeminent example of that in modern times.
So, I mean, I agree in that case.
That's my salient point.
I'm just saying to British viewers, when you see Americans slagging off Britain, be conscious.
They're not really discussing us.
They're discussing themselves.
And they're using us, and I think misreading our history and our current situation in order to make a political point about now.
I can see the use of a term like decline porn, as it does convey both the gratuitousness of a lot of this content and the fact that just like porn, much of what you're watching is staged or simulated in some way.
But being honest, I don't really like using porn for things that aren't actually pornographic.
And I also think the decline part of the title shies away from how explicitly racialized a lot of this content is.
Yeah, I was going to say, like, why does a decline associated with like seeing people of colour?
That's essentially all it is.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you can think London is declining and you can think the UK is declining, but I think that's very separate from saying there's too many immigrants here, which is nearly always the main thrust of these videos.
Do you know?
I guarantee that these guys could go to like, I don't know, whatever the equivalent of like, I don't know, where, you know, some kind of like shopping center or whatever, you know, or a neighborhood, some, you know, a neighborhood somewhere, and be like, oh my god, it's all white, you know?
Like, you can do that anywhere.
You can do that anywhere, literally.
For my own shorthand purposes, I've started calling this the London Has Fallen genre, mostly because that's the general vibe of the videos, but also because that phrasing or something like it is commonly uttered by the video makers themselves or even used as a title.
The London has fallen genre consists of highly pessimistic walk and talk videos, usually in areas which are specifically pre-selected for having a lot of non-white faces, graffiti, litter, or anything else that the video maker can think that symbolizes the supposed collapse of Western civilization, like ugly Art Deco buildings, for instance.
How dystopian does this look?
It's just a concrete jungle.
There's like some dead, dying trees over there.
That's falling apart.
Then you've got the world's ugliest building over there, and then a fairly ugly new building.
Oh my god, this is crazy.
It's this is insane to me.
Like this guy must have like VR goggles on that showing him something totally different because this just looks like a very nice street, actually.
Again, I am baffled by how popular these are because I actively avoid situations where I'm around someone who constantly complains about stuff that isn't that worth complaining about, who constantly whines about things that are fine or otherwise pleasant.
But this is a whole very profitable genre of YouTube video where people just sit down and watch people just walk and complain, walk and complain.
this is this is a travel vlog for unhappy people this is we've we've needed to make content for these guys actually they They've been a, you know, a forgotten audience of just like miserable complainers who never want to leave their house.
But it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'd like to see what London looks like, but I don't want to be told that I'm missing out on something great.
I want to be told that I'm right to avoid this hellhole and I'm safer because of it.
And yet also entertained by, you know, the sort of imagined scenario of the content creator putting themselves in danger.
Exactly how politically direct London has fallen content creator wants to be is up to them.
Many of them, like Kurt Kaz, are fairly open about their political allegiances.
Kaz has collaborated with far-right European politicians before, such as Alfonso Gonsalves from the far-right ethno-nationalist activist group Reconquista.
Here's how he introduces himself in Kaz's video about Lisbon.
My name is Afosco Salvas.
I am the founder and leader of Reconquista, the biggest political movement in Portugal.
And we are here today in Lisbon, in the area of Martímonij, to show my friend Kurtz all the degeneracy, all the chaos, all of the uncomfortable areas here in Lisbon because of immigration, because of multiculturalism.
Meanwhile, Tyler Oliviera, a former Mr. Beast wannabe challenge YouTuber, who's become probably one of the biggest channels creating this kind of content, has interviewed Lutz Bachmann, founder of the far-right anti-Islamic movement Pegida.
When he came to the UK to film footage for his video, England is on the brink of civil war.
Naturally, he interviewed Bachmann's English counterpart, Tommy Robinson, who unsurprisingly gave the same rant about upcoming civil war that he's been giving for decades, with some great replacement conspiracy stuff thrown in for good measure.
2013, I looked at the demographics increase by 2030.
So in those 17 years, the projected growth of the communities.
And I looked at the different wards for Luton, which is my hometown, to look at the problems.
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The Pakistani and Bangladeshi community were going to increase by 70 to 77 percent.
The white and the black by 1.3 to 1.4 percent.
Yeah?
So what do Labour know?
If you're projecting and you're looking at the future, where does the future lie?
When we started fighting in London against this, yeah, oh, the leader of the council was there, her name's Hazel Simmons.
And we went to the meeting and she said, There's not enough for you.
She laughed at us.
There's not enough for you.
Because their power doesn't, their power and their future is from the Muslim community.
And they know it.
But they will use democracy to end democracy.
At the same time, as someone who knows quite a bit about the British far right, it feels interesting to me how many of these content creators are happy to feature them in their videos to get that sense of local legitimacy, but clearly aren't at all familiar with their complaints or the general political landscape here at all.
Here, another American YouTuber called Nate Friedman, for example, who also interviewed Robinson, comes across a poster advertising a left-wing protest against the current Labour government and is completely unable to decipher it.
He talks about Starma being the one who let all the immigrants in, when basically anyone who spent time with the British right know that they refer to the post-Brexit surge in non-EU immigration as the Boris wave.
Build a socialist opposition to Starmer.
So this is the guy who brought everybody in, and yet they want to stop the government cuts.
The benefits are not enough.
And this goes on for a while.
The irony is you see flyers that also say say no to racism, while Whitechapel looks like this, and it used to be a majority white city.
London still is a majority white city, just to clarify.
I mean, I think it's, you know, it's not by a lot, but I think it still is.
Also, what's wrong with like demographics changing in the same place?
You know, my grandfather grew up in Watts, which was like a predominantly Jewish neighbourhood.
Like now it's predominantly like black.
And I don't know, there's not like, I don't see any like Jews going into Watts and being like, oh, we used, there used to be a menorah shop right here.
And now it'd be like they, and on the other, and on the opposite street, my favourite yarmaka shop gone.
Yeah, and I think it's interesting because that demographic change is happening in boroughs of London to the opposite extent, right?
There are areas that used to be much more predominantly black and they've become gentrified, they've become a little bit posh.
It's happened to lots of places, sort of in the zone two and zone three.
But these obviously these YouTubers never show you those parts because that's not telling the story that they want it to tell.
Perhaps it's unfair to ask a foreigner to understand the ins and outs of British immigration or benefits policy, but it feels to me that if you're going to make a video talking about it, you could at least get basic details right.
But having watched a lot of this content, it feels like the vloggers' sheer ignorance of the place they're coming to is part of the package.
Here, for example, after mistaking Bengali for Tamil, two mad explorers wander into literal Brick Lane, a street in London that has been famous for its curry houses since at least the 1970s and wine that they can't find any proper British cuisine.
We've got a typical mural here where you've got Tamil and it's in the Tamil colours as well.
It's actually kind of similar enough colours to like Tamil Tigers or something like that.
Brick Lane EI and then underneath you've got more Tamil as well and this is the Sari squad.
Yes guys, so we made it to Brick Lane.
And believe it or not, they have all of the authentic British food here.
You've got Indian kitchen, Bangladeshi kitchen.
You have a Bengal village which is again, I believe, somewhere in northern India.
It's the finest Indian cuisine there, the yellow one.
And the green one is a Balti house as well.
And then you also have a Turkish or an Indian barber shop as well there.
So you've got everything that you could need.
And don't worry.
Across the road as well, you have an international supermarket.
All of the things that accurately represent where we are.
I thought he was going to say, and across the road, you can see like a big white family that's there to enjoy some Bengali cuisine, I'm sure.
It was just like the most white people in the world that were just like walking there being like, cool, like where should we eat?
Well, yeah, because it's a tourist attraction, Brick Lane.
Like you only go there for, well, I think they've got two very famous bagel bagel joints there as well.
But mainly people go there for a curry.
Like that's what it's.
I swear, this is so stupid.
This literally, I know I said it before, but this literally is like going to like Chinatown and being like, China is taking over America.
Like it is the dumbest, easiest.
How easy?
I mean, you know, I get why this is so popular.
It costs nothing to walk down the streets and complain.
These guys are just doing it out loud into a camera and then posting it online and editing it instead of just like everybody else.
Or I can only speak for myself, but I just do it in my head.
I walk around and I complain in my head.
That's, you know, that's what you do.
That's, I, I, I don't know.
Seems like it's a lot, a whole lot of work.
Yo, I've acquired most of my understanding of British dining habits from watching Peep Show.
And from watching that, I did notice that they do frequently eat curry and Indian food.
I just assumed it was just a normal part of, like, it is like, like, it's part of mine.
You know, I'd be like, I go out for Indians, I guess, a couple times a year because there are a few good Indian restaurants around here and they're delicious.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's what strikes me about this as well.
It's like, even the most committed racists in this country love curry.
Yeah.
If I wanted to make a video demonizing immigration, I would not be looking at curry houses, which everyone loves.
Everyone agrees that Indian food is great.
Do you know?
Like, even the most committed racists in this country have begrudgingly have to admit that what they say is like, well, you know, we've got the recipes.
We don't.
So it just feels like a, yeah, it feels like a foolish move, basically, to point to what is undeniably one of the most well-loved contributions of Indian and Bengali and Pakistani immigrants to this country.
You know, I used to be almost exclusively a chicken tikka masala and sag paneer guy, but recently I've discovered that you can get the like tikka masala, you can get the same kind of curry, but instead of chicken, you can get the paneer, the like fried cheese in it.
And if you get it a little bit spicy, it's like a paneer tikka masala with like a little bit of spice.
And that right now is probably one of my, it's one of my top 10 flavors.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's that's nearly always what I order as well.
Because I'm, yeah, I'm trying not to eat meat so much.
So yeah, usually if they've got a paneer option, I go for that.
It's real good.
Do you, how are you with the spice?
Do you like real spicy or more on the mild side?
I am, well, I wouldn't think of myself as, I don't know, I'm not one of those lads who's just like, always got to get the hottest thing on the menu, always got to get the vindication.
Yeah, you're not a spice chaser.
You're not a spice chaser.
You don't go seek it out.
But, you know, if they, when they're saying mild, medium, or spicy, you go, I'm okay with spicy if everybody else is.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
When I get my Nando's order, I get the hot version.
So that's like not the most hot sauce you can get, but it's like the second.
Yeah.
I go through phases.
Sometimes I like it really, sometimes I'm really craving spice.
And then sometimes my tummy just decides like, nope, like not today.
And then I, and then I'm like kind of traumatized from it for a little bit.
So it's sort of like ebbs and flows.
I'm just talking about like, it's just a Jewish, just a Jewish tummy.
That's all.
It's nothing, you know, nothing out of the ordinary.
No doubt fans of the London has fallen genre would retort that two mad explorers shouldn't have to learn the difference between Tamil and Bengali to visit London, an English city.
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But it feels conspicuous to me how these supposed die-hard defenders of Western civilisation actually don't really seem to know the first thing about that either.
I'm sorry to keep picking on these two, but they do make it very easy.
Here's one half of Two Mad Explorers again, this time struggling to articulate what he likes about Westminster Abbey.
Absolutely beautiful Westminster Abbey.
The style of this is just gorgeous.
I don't even have the proper words to describe it.
You have the bollards here.
Things to stop vehicles from ramming in to Westminster Palace, which is just behind us as well.
And again, similar style.
Just drop dead gorgeous.
The history, the history that is here in England.
I'd say, why not?
Next level.
It's funny.
It's like, wow, there's so much beauty and history.
Yeah, it's like you aren't willing to like articulate maybe the architectural features of what you're witnessing for your audience.
You're not willing to divulge a little bit of the history of, you know, the construction and life of these buildings, just muttering about like, you know, beauty and history.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, it seems so telling to me as well.
He was just like, the style.
And clearly he just was just like, oh, I don't know what style it is.
But I know it's old, so I know I like it.
I don't know.
Maybe it's snobbish of me to mock someone for not knowing that Westminster Abbey is gothic architecture, but it kind of feels emblematic to me of how a lot of the contemporary far-right in general operates.
They kind of pretend to revere the West or European culture or English history, but their passion for it is actually just incredibly shallow.
They don't care enough to learn anything about it.
They just want to present it as evidence of their own superiority.
Just old London good, new London bad.
One of the most inconvenient truths for an aspiring London has fallen vlogger is that London is actually a pretty safe city.
That was presumably why our unfortunate South African hero Kurt Kaz was reduced to using AI to produce a balaclava clad bandit menacing him for the perfect clickbait thumbnail.
Violent crime is steadily falling in the city and just a few days ago it was announced that homicide rates had hit their lowest level since records began in 1997.
Nonetheless there is a pervasive and rising belief among the British public that London is an unsafe place to live.
I think part of this is because people like Nigel Farage just keep constantly saying so and it's become received wisdom.
But I've no doubt that, like even the spectator podcast guys had to admit, the pervasiveness of so-called decline porn plays a part too.
I was really struck by this comment from GB News presenter Patrick Christie's on the Spiked podcast speaking about London's supposed collapse.
I mean we're often told that not to worry about crime, crime is going down.
But clearly the public perception must be that it's a rate it's still a really serious problem, especially in London.
I just feel like this is just another battleground that needs to be fought where the members of the public are like, well, I'm seeing a lot more machetes.
And I feel as though I'm seeing a lot more stabbings and just a much lower level as well.
Things like a lot more graffiti and a lot more polyrough sleeping and all of that.
You know, I'm hearing a lot more about sexual assaults against women.
I feel less safe when I go out and about now than I did than I did 10 years ago.
But of course I'm just wrong and we're all wrong, aren't we?
Because Fraser Nelson has found a statistic that says that we're wrong.
It's complete and utter horsepel, all of this.
Admittedly, I don't actually live in London because I'm not part of the woke metropolitan elite like Christie's is.
So it's possible I'm speaking out of turn here.
But I'm not convinced he's actually, in real life, seeing a lot more machetes, stabbings and sexual assaults with his own eyes.
I think what he's talking about here is what he's seeing on social media, or maybe the news, both of which are, of course, curated.
Maybe I'm wrong and Christie's commute to work every day at the GB News Towers involves him dodging in and out of alcoves as he tries to avoid the roving, machete-wielding street gangs like a British millennial version of the Warriors.
If so, he can get in touch and I'll be happy to issue a retraction.
This poor guy, every time he goes out, it's like going to like Halloween horror nights.
John Byrne Murdock, writing for the Financial Times, has a slightly more nuanced take than me, and has written that what he calls the great crime paradox, where crime is going down but concern about crime is rising, is down to visibility.
Most violent crime, he writes, while an obviously scarier prospect, happens behind closed doors, and so we don't necessarily see a decline.
He writes, By contrast, rapidly rising snatch theft is almost always carried out in public by a stranger on the first-time victim, giving a much greater sense that this could happen to me.
Shoplifting is especially damaging to the sense of public order as people witness not only the act but the lasting consequences, the growing presence of security personnel and protective casings or locks on items from stake to cosmetics.
Both these low-level crimes provide a palpable signal that things are out of control, no media refraction needed.
And both have been on the rise.
So I think that that makes sense to me basically that even though violent crime is going down in London, if these kind of crimes, which are not really what people are talking about when they say that London is unsafe, things like phone theft and shoplifting, if that's on the rise, it's much more visible to people.
Yeah, I kind of see that.
But nonetheless, watching a lot of London has fallen content, you get the sense some of our adventurers are a bit disappointed that this city isn't more violent.
And the ones with a B in their bonnet about Islam and the supposed upcoming Muslim takeover of the UK seem to have a particularly hard time finding anyone Muslim who actually had any clue about the sinister plan.
Islam And Democracy00:03:34
Here's a channel called Adventure Elliott interviewing a Muslim woman in a video titled, I Investigated the UK's Shocking Rise of Islam.
Do you think one day Islam will overtake Christianity or non-religious people here in the UK?
No, I would not say that because, yeah, Islam is growing, but there are people of other religions as well.
That's why UK is UK, because we can accept all sorts of religions.
And even in Islam, there's an eye on the Quran, specifically saying your religion is yours, and you can also practice other people's religions.
Well, it's not a compulsory, then you have to be in this path of Islam.
So I would not say that it's only just Islam against the world.
Whoever wants to come to Islam, more than happy to, but do your own research and come not because of compulsion, but because of your own will.
In fact, given how clearly ideologically determined to depict Islam as an existential threat to the West many of these YouTubers were, I was genuinely surprised at how few Muslim people they managed to find who expressed any hostility at all to general tolerance and religious pluralism.
The best many of them could manage was just the least charitable interpretation of their interview subjects' words, particularly if they spoke English as a second language.
Let's listen to the frankly odious Nate Friedman do this to an elderly man who had the temerity to tell him that he liked that the UK was a democracy.
They say, why don't Muslim people stay in their Muslim countries?
Why do they come to the West?
What is your response to that?
Yeah, Muslim country, you know, no democracy.
Because democracy is the main thing.
Any human being, not a Muslim or any...
So you come from democracy.
Yeah.
Democracy means law and administration is good.
So the Muslim countries are not democracies, but I'm seeing that now there are a lot of Muslims being elected into parliament in the UK.
You do think it's a good idea?
Yeah, yeah, it's a good idea to let democracy.
Look at America or Europe.
Where is the democracy?
America we have democracy.
Yeah yeah.
So just my last question, just to really understand, like, there's over 40 Muslim-majority countries, and like you say, they're not democracies.
Why will it be different if London and the UK elects Muslim people into their government?
Why will it stay a democracy?
I think only if you're educated, you know what is democracy's Western ways to treat it.
Yeah.
This guy just told me that he came here because Muslim-majority countries are not democracies and that he prefers the Western way of life.
The Western way of life doesn't blast a call to prayer five times a day.
Oh, man.
I know.
I mean, you could not get a clearer example of kind of leading questions of, yeah, trying to get this guy's, I think, you know, quite sweet sort of like comment that he likes the kind of religious pluralism of this country.
He likes the fact it's democratic.
To try and turn it into something sinister, to be like, oh, well, if enough Muslims are elected, then they'll just turn it undemocratic.
As if there's like a Muslim anti-democracy gene or something.
Yeah, and like as if the guy didn't tell him that the reason they leave is because they don't like the way that it's done.
You know?
Right.
Violent Content and Justice00:12:45
Yeah.
It's unreal.
What a loser.
I hate this guy.
I hate his vibe.
I hate his background.
I don't like, like, the color palette that he's chosen for his show.
I just, I didn't, this is a person that I didn't need to know exists.
And, like, what a waste of time.
Can you imagine, like, going on the street and being like, okay, like, how do I, like, I can't wait to go up to people and, like, figure out how to, like, manipulate them into confirming, I don't know, my little, you know, my little believesies.
Sucks.
Yeah, I agree.
I think, like, don't get me wrong, none of these YouTubers, like, particularly come off well in these videos, but for some reason, he's just like the worst.
He's just like really, really kind of like slimy and nasty.
You know.
In a crowded field.
Of course, there is one way you can reliably get the on-screen violence that you promised your audience, and that's by harassing people.
This is much higher risk than on-street interviews with consenting participants, but it's much more likely to get you the physical conflict your bloodthirsty viewers demand.
One common way that London has fallen vloggers will do this is by just shoving their camera in the faces of people who clearly don't want to be filmed to try and rile them up.
Which I've recently learned is a YouTube genre of its own called auditing.
Here's an example from a channel called Dutch Travel Maniac, who's actually in Piccadilly Gardens in the city of Manchester at the time.
So I guess you could say he's doing Manchester Has Fallen content, although that's got less of a ring to it.
Hello, guys.
Hi.
Hi.
Sorry?
No, it's pointing at me.
It's pointing at me.
It's pointing at me, bro.
But may I ask you?
You're not a movie now.
Tell me me.
But may I ask you, what is the reason that you're so scared of the camera?
My faith class.
People who are here in town, they're here because their lives are bad.
They don't want other people to see their lives.
You mean like illegal?
No, bro.
But what do you mean?
Because they're going through family stuff.
They're trying to get away, man.
They don't want to see people.
They want to be on their own.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Okay.
Self-bro, I don't want to talk to me.
I'm not going to get him away from me.
Yeah, come bro.
Get him away with me, bro.
Don't worry, you don't shout me.
He's relaxed.
No, he's relaxed.
He's got family and all that.
I don't want to be on no.
Just relax.
Can you relax?
I mean, relax.
Relax.
I don't know what you're saying.
Stop putting your camera up there.
THEY, now you're getting aggressive.
I don't want this.
I will, bro.
What are you going to do?
You will?
Yeah?
Do you?
Yeah?
Yeah, like, yeah, this guy looks like he likes to fight.
I mean, it's just, yeah, shaved, shaved head, big guy, neck tattoos, coming, being aggressive.
Like, of course, of course you're going to be like on guard.
Yeah, and I think the guy actually gives him, he's obviously upset that he's being filmed, but he actually gives him just like a pretty articulate reason.
Oh, totally.
You know, please don't film me.
People are here because, you know, we're having, we're having a hard time.
Like, it's, it's completely reasonable.
And he just keeps on, you know, just needling him and sort of pushing him and just not really taking the camera off him because he's hoping to get a reaction.
And then, sure enough, he labels the video, I almost got stabbed.
Of course, of course.
To give Dutch Travel Maniac some credit here, he is by himself at the time.
And despite being a pretty big guy, as you mentioned, Jake, that's still taking a risk.
His more cowardly colleagues in the field, like our friend Kirk Kaz, have gone to the exact same location with a bodyguard and straight up started yelling racial slurs in order to provoke a reaction from locals, all the while knowing that he won't actually face any physical consequences.
The boys are back in town.
Nice one.
What are you guys up to?
Why are you dealing candies?
Why?
Because I can't.
Why are you here?
Why are you here?
Why are you here, Dingy Boy?
Let's do a DNA test.
Let's see why.
Dingy boy.
Dingy boy, shut up.
Go home.
Why?
Because I can't.
Why are you doing?
What are you doing?
Why are you doing?
Why are you here?
Why are you here?
Why are you here, Dingy Boy?
Why are you here?
You want to know me?
Well, maybe.
You'll get to know me soon.
Oh, you want to know me?
Help him, whatever.
Like, I mean, yeah, this is absolutely insane behavior.
I mean, it's insane by itself, just going around, like, provoking people and asking, what are you doing and why are you here?
Without like, you know, and then on the top of that, you have a bodyguard.
Yeah, so you don't actually have any like personal risk while you're antagonizing people pointlessly.
This is, yeah, this is extremely slimy behavior.
Yeah, no, it's really pathetic.
This is what, um, oh, what's his name?
He looks like a teenager.
He's on YouTube.
I don't know.
He's like an adult.
He's like, oh, Doyle Rules or something like that.
It's like his name.
Jack Doherty, I think is his name.
And he's a little, he's a little shrimp and he hires bodyguards.
He goes onto the street and he fucks around with people.
And as soon as he provokes somebody, like the bodyguard steps in and it's like, hey, man, back off.
That's like, that's also a type of content that I unfortunately know about.
Yeah, I think they call it auditing, right?
Auditing?
God, no.
I didn't even know that.
Oh, no.
I just learned about like what pressing means.
Like, ah, I'm so behind.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They call it auditing.
Yeah, there's a few of those guys here as well, just kind of just wind-up merchants, just walking around town, usually looking for people who are like homeless or drug addicts or something like that.
And then just sort of trying to just wind them up, trying to provoke a fight.
It's just really, I mean, for one thing, it's just like pathetic behavior, but also I just have to be like, who is watching this?
You know, because some of the videos are really long.
They're like 40 minutes long.
It's like, who's sitting down?
Like, oh, yeah, I can't, can't wait to watch this guy just go around and just like rile up some of just kind of, yeah, people and just like the clear.
Young, angry boys.
It's young, angry boy.
It used to be they, they remember bum fights, Travis.
There was like a horrible, horrible like DVD series that I think they would advertise on like mainstream television that was just like, yeah, videos of homeless people fighting or maybe even not, but they just dressed them up as if they were and called it bum fights.
This has just been backyard.
I mean, this is just young boy violence, but now with a new, with a new like racist and sort of like, like you said, like Western decline sort of edge to it.
So it actually interlocks with their politics as well.
And so it's just extra sticky.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like bum fights, except now they've got this twisted ideological justification for why what they're doing isn't just, yeah, isn't just cynical, kind of exploitative, because they, you know, they can say, oh no, actually, I'm doing something very important, which is exposing the collapse of Western civilization.
Yeah.
I think if you watch this and you don't feel bad for the people who are being harassed and you can't honestly understand their reaction, I think that you're a deeply upset person and, you know, it's whatever.
It's the hatred that you feel or the anger that you feel or your justified racism watching something like this is a stronger emotion than whatever, I don't know, whatever you're sort of running from, I guess.
In fact, both Kaz and Tyler Oliviera, by far two of the biggest channels in this field, have developed a way of monetizing street violence in the European cities that they travel to.
Both have started making vigilante style videos where they, quote, hunt pickpockets in tourist hotspots.
In Kaz's case, this often involves him and his team chasing after women, and funnily enough, it nearly is always women, yelling anti-Romani and misogynist slurs at them.
In one video in Lisbon, Kaz and the local anti-pickpocket vigilantes he's filming corner a woman outside the Monument of Discoveries, and although the camera deliberately blurs at the moment, it looks very much like one of Kaz's companions hits her.
When an onlooking tourist objects, Kaz calls him a social justice warrior.
Show everybody you want a pickpocket.
You're a pickpocket!
You can go out.
Go out, my country.
Yes.
Go out, my country.
Here, pickpocket, here I am, here I am.
You see?
Oh, what?
Hey, hey, hey.
No, hey, hey, hey, these people stealing, man.
They're destroying tourism.
You don't understand.
Nothing.
Aww, cry about it.
They'll steal for it.
It's fine.
Look at those social justice warriors.
Everywhere.
Yikes.
Not to sound like an old person, but in my day, social justice warrior meant like a bit of a keyboard warrior, like a bit of a, you know, someone who's sort of trying to make a big deal out of nothing.
I think it never was originally intended to mean someone who literally objects to you hitting a woman.
Yeah.
As I watch all these videos, I can't help but think like these guys are like going out into the street and like just like wanting to do ice.
Like they just want to be ice, but they have no power, no authority.
But like that's what the vibe is, like this, the hunting down and the and the, you know, the demanding of, you know, removal from the country.
It's just like, oh, it's so, this feels so bad.
Yeah, you're so right.
Like it's just got a, yeah, a high percentage of men with Punisher tattoos or much.
Yeah.
Just the same looking guys.
Like, you know, I think that's what's so scary about the Nate Friedman guy.
It's like the camera turns around and he looks like he should just be kind of in like a room with bisexual lighting and, you know, maybe like streaming a game, you know, a couple of figures on the back.
Like, I see such a like healthier, like more peaceful existence for him.
But the rest of these guys, you turn around, you're like, oh, exactly what I thought.
Like, like, ah, yep.
Oakley's, sure.
Yep.
Tight, tight, like weird polo.
Yep.
Got it.
Perhaps the most pioneering form of monetizing street thuggery comes from Tyler Oliviera, who deliberately censors footage of alleged pickpockets getting beaten up by his team before selling it on as premium content.
Here's an example from his video, I hunted pickpockets in Venice.
Then this career criminal made the foolish decision to separate from his crew of thieves and run away from our shaming ritual.
At this moment, with pickpocket, Pepper sprayed Martin straight in the face, and he then mysteriously tripped and fell multiple times in a row, allowing us to gently wait with him until the police came.
You fucking make me wanna fuck him!
You dumb bitch!
Go to patreon.com slash Tyler Oliver to watch the full uncensored version of this video for five bucks that we can't show on YouTube.
Oh no.
Oh, this is where we're.
This is okay.
I was curious where we might be heading, but I get it.
It's Patreon for the uncensored violent content.
Got it.
That's very disturbing that there's some sort of business model that's like, yeah, man, I like that video, but I wish I could see the full street violence.
I'll pay up some money to see to get it directly from them.
Yeah, I mean, surely that's got to be breaking Patreon's rules.
Surely.
Surely you're not actually meant to just like straight up, yeah, show videos of you just committing acts of street violence against people.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think I'm gonna go report that.
I'm gonna see if I can do something about that, actually.
That's so grim.
Oh, God, I feel like.
I think we're the vigilantes now.
Like the pixelation and be like, oh, I can't try.
Oh, four dollars a month.
You can see us fucking lightly tackle this guy.
You can see our like, oh man, oh god.
It's gonna get worse.
We gotta get on this.
Patreon, we're gonna have a disgrace.
Now, obviously, pickpockets are a problem in every major city that attracts a lot of tourists, and it's a horrible feeling to become one of their victims.
I can understand why people might be attracted to content which feels like it turns the tables or delivers justice.
But let's be honest, this isn't justice.
It's not offering any actual solution to crime, and it's not making anyone's lives better.
It's pure entertainment and spectacle, designed to appeal to our worst, most vicious impulses.
There's also a certain irony here because both Kaz and Oliviera have made a big deal about immigrants ruining Europe.
Yet both of them have come to these countries as guests and begun harassing people, engaging in violence and causing general disorder.
Whitechapel Pilgrimage00:05:08
In several of their videos of this type, I've seen locals, usually shopkeepers, essentially beg them to go elsewhere as they're scaring off customers.
So if you really are concerned about violent foreigners coming to your country and causing trouble, maybe the first thing to do is to block the visa of any and all YouTubers.
As I said earlier, watching so much of this content, it struck me that nearly every YouTuber who wants to make videos demonstrating how Islamified the UK has become will go to Whitechapel.
It's become something of a pilgrimage spot for the international far-right, largely because, as I said before, it has a large Bangladeshi population, and according to the 2021 UK census, 56.3% of residents identify as Asian.
In 2022, to celebrate this aspect of Whitechapel's heritage, Whitechapel Station installed a sign in Bengali alongside the English, something which pretty much every London has fallen YouTuber I've watched has made a point of mentioning.
So that's the language that's being used in England now?
I always thought it was English coming from Ireland where we used to speak Irish.
Now we speak English.
I've never seen this.
I've never seen this in Europe.
This is insane.
Usually in other European countries the sign would be English-French, you know, maybe Italian or German.
This is insane.
I don't even know what it is, to be honest.
It seems to be like maybe Hindi or Tamil or.
Oh my god.
I know.
I feel like I'm really picking on these guys, but you are just so aggressively not researching anything.
No, it's just, it's just, oh my god, this is stare.
This is staring at words and like being frightened.
Yeah.
What's interesting about this continued focus on Whitechapel though is that it's probably the worst part of London to try and claim is new to immigration.
East London's oldest Indian restaurant called Halal Restaurant was opened there in 1939 to cater to the many Indian seamen living in the area.
The Bangladeshi community's history began there in the 1950s when the government encouraged immigration from Commonwealth countries in order to aid in post-war redevelopment, which became particularly concentrated in the industrial areas of East London, which had been heavily ravaged by bombs during the Blitz.
But even before that, from the mid-19th century, the East End was well known for being a hub for newly arrived immigrants.
First, the Irish, and then later in the century, as Kenazi Jews, fleeing persecution in Eastern Europe and Russia.
This is hardly an original observation, but it feels pretty striking how this community was talked about in very similar terms to the way many creators in the London has fallen genre discuss Muslim immigrants today.
Victorian writers like Charles Russell published books like The Jew in London, a study of racial character and present-day conditions, in which he expressed concern that the sheer numbers of recent Jewish immigrants and their supposed tendency towards clannish behavior and hostility to outsiders would render them resistant to assimilation.
The book included a fold-out map apparently showing the density and spread of Jewish migrants through the East End.
Whether the Jewish immigrant is, on the whole, a blessing or a curse to the East End is not by any means a purely economic question.
It is commonly said that he contributes nothing to the strength of the nation, and whether this charge is just depends mainly on the extent to which he enters into the nation's life.
So long as the Jews remain an isolated and peculiar people, self-centered in their organization and fundamentally alien in their ideas and aims, the rapid growth of their community can hardly be regarded with complete satisfaction.
A quote state within a state, unquote, is generally recognized as an undesirable anomaly.
And so long as the Jews remain independent and unabsorbed, they must expect to be regarded as strangers in the land.
Now, it is obvious as circumstances at present stand, the East End Jews must be regarded as, in effect, an alien community.
A considerable portion of them speak a foreign tongue, while in religion, in character and habits, and in social and industrial organization, they are marked off from their neighbors by peculiar features.
It is the object of this essay to inquire how far these peculiarities appear to be of a permanent or eradicable nature, and how far they constitute or are likely to constitute an impassable barrier between Jewry and the outer world.
I don't mean to underplay anti-Semitism, but I think only the very committed neo-Nazis in this country would argue that this had any merit to it.
I think even people who are very far right on lots of immigration questions now largely view that this was wrong, that the Jewish immigrants did assimilate very well.
Yes, and we took over the Hollywood industry.
Well, luckily, we didn't have a Hollywood industry to take over.
Well, but like, I mean, I don't know if I should say this or not, but like, this happens to me, like, in modern day, like, living in like Pico Robertson area.
Like, there are Orthodox Jews that live in that neighborhood that are like totally segregated in many ways from, you know, the rest of the city.
Nobody Has a Problem00:03:00
But, like, that's coming from me, a person who was raised Jewish, who I look at, you know, the Orthodox guys and all they're like, a strange tongue.
And then, you know, and then you look at like the paeus, which is the long sideburns or the big sort of like Rebbe hats or the overcoats, and you go, peculiarities.
You know what I mean?
Like, and these are guys who I've allowed to like rap to fill in, which is the, this is like, it's kind of like a mitzvah.
It's like a good deed to get Jews that are less religious than you to pray in this kind of hardcore way where you like wrap these leather bands around your arms and it's got like a wooden box.
You also have to wear a headpiece, like a wooden box that was like with the prayers inside.
I've like done that with them, you know, like I've tried to overlap, but nobody has a problem with that.
It's like, okay, yeah, it's weird.
It's like, oh, like, yeah, and like, okay, they dress funny or whatever.
You can see them all walking the shoal on Friday nights, you know, or whatever.
But it's existed like this for like decades and decades and decades in, you know, that part of Los Angeles.
And like, nobody has a problem with it.
I don't know.
I don't know what I'm trying to say is that, like, even if this guy's worst fear is true, which is that this community stays pretty tight-knit and they do have, you know, their own language and their own like very orthodox, you know, version of religion.
And like, yeah, like, I'm annoyed by them in the Trader Joe's parking lot, but like, you know, but but like, but like, there's no problem.
Like, they, that actually can exist in an ecosystem of America and like, and within American neighborhoods, you know, just anecdotally from my own experience.
And it is, it's like funny and weird and like, yeah, it's, but it actually like brings character and like, I think a richness to, you know, the landscape of just like multiculturalism in LA that's like, I don't know, it's like, it's annoying, maybe, but like beloved.
I don't know.
I just think that like his worst fear is actually something that it like already exists and hasn't destroyed anything actually, but instead provided a place of refuge.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I think that's, I think that's a really good point.
Yeah, because I mean, a bit like we were talking about with Brick Lane before, actually, just the, there are like just features of communities keeping their national character, which are just like really nice.
It means, yeah, you can go for an excellent curry in this part of London.
You can go for, yeah, bagels on Brick Lane as well, which I guess is like a legacy of this community that Charles Russell is talking about here at the turn of the century.
But yeah, I think it just sort of seems to be just like a permanent feature, essentially, of any recent immigrant arrival for the majority population to kind of look at them and sort of say, oh, gosh, they're just like, their values are just so foreign to us.
Backlash Against Cultural Integration00:02:42
They are so different to us.
There is no way, there is no way that they can ever peacefully integrate into our society or benefit our society.
And I think just the entire history of this country is just that not being true.
Yeah.
Do you know?
And like, it's kind of the mission of both the UK and America, which is that they're these huge cultural melting pots, these places where people, you know, I don't know, like, were sold a promise and believed and many have fulfilled like a promise of like a better, a better life where actually you won't be persecuted for what you believe in, what your religion is, or, you know, maintaining your own culture.
So it seems like the very thing that these countries are founded on, it's like, it's like now all these people are like doing like take back sees, I guess, you know, in some sort of like weird way.
Just feels very like immature.
I don't know.
Definitely.
Yeah.
I just wanted to compare that passage to this comment by Alex Phillips, a talk TV presenter on the very first episode of former Prime Minister turn podcaster Liz Truss's new show.
That episode was, funnily enough, called London is Falling.
How bad is it?
I mean, it's shocking.
If you look at the official statistics for legal migration, we know that with government policy, we're getting up to about a net people 1 million every single year.
This is bearing in mind that some of the best people are leaving Britain.
Exactly.
Right.
So actually, if you look at the growth statistics, it's easily over a million.
And a lot of these people don't tend to be skilled workers from Western cultures.
Then, of course, we have the statistics on illegal migration, which will be the tip of the iceberg, because largely we're looking at people coming over on small boats, those people who are detected as coming over on small boats.
We're not looking at people who are overstaying student visas, who are coming in via aeroplanes, who are then losing their passports, people who are coming in on the backs of lorries.
And so, what we essentially have of this unprecedented inundation of our islands from cultures which, frankly, really struggle to assimilate with our own.
And that woman is dressed like the evil, the evil president in the Hunger Games.
Yeah, you're right.
She is.
In fact, the more I read historical writing about Whitechapel, the more similarities I began to see with its modern depictions on YouTube.
Even before the crimes of Britain's most infamous serial killer, Jack the Ripper, brought national attention to the area in 1888, Whitechapel and the wider East End were already widely portrayed as zones of exceptional barbarism and depravity.
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Their poor, ethnically diverse residents and their subversive activities inspired a mix of repulsion and fascination, and the area became the focus of some of the most influential moral panic journalism of the period.
Most notably, it was the subject of W.T. Steed's notorious series, The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon, which alleged that young girls were being routinely abducted or deceived and sold into sexual slavery there.
Another writer, George R. Sims, published a book in 1883 called How the Poor Live, in which he explicitly stated a weirdly similar mission to many of the roaming travel vloggers I've talked about, to take the storytelling conventions of colonial travel writing, danger, savagery, and discovery, and apply them not to far-off lands, but to Europe's own cities, repackaging urban poverty as a literary commodity.
I commence with the first of these chapters, a book about travel.
An author and artist have gone hand in hand to many a far-off region of the earth, and the result has been a volume eagerly studied by the stay-at-home public, anxious to know something of the world in which they live.
In these pages, I propose to record the result of a journey into a region which lies at our own doors, into a dark continent that is within easy walking distance of the General Post Office.
This continent will, I hope, be found as interesting as any of those newly explored lands.
The wild races who inhabit it will, I trust, gain public sympathy as easily as those savage tribes for whose benefit the missionary societies never ceased to appeal for funds.
I was struck by how much of this writing even felt like a YouTube walk and talk, where you, the reader, accompany the author as he describes the pitiful conditions of the East End slums.
Here, for example, is the same author, George Sims, a little further along in How the Poor Live.
We walk along a narrow, dirty passage, and at the end we find ourselves in what we should call a backyard, but which, in the language of the neighborhood, is a square.
The square is full of refuse.
Heaps of dust and decaying vegetable matter lie about here and there, under the windows and in the front of the doors of the squalid, tumble-down houses.
The windows above and below are broken and patched.
We can see a good deal of the inside through the cracks and crevices and broken panes, but if we knock the door, we shall get a view of the inhabitants.
Our knock has alarmed the neighborhood.
Who are we?
The police?
No.
Who are we?
Now we recognize one of our number, our guide, with a growl.
He and we with them can pass without hindrance where it would be dangerous for a policeman to go.
Yeah, you're right.
It's the same thing.
It's like, it's like I'm walking down and I'm disgusted and scared.
Yeah.
The rotting vegetables.
I started this research, I think, just because I wanted to find some historical writings about Whitechapel, which talked about the ethnic diversity, just to kind of, you know, prove that it's not that immigration is a new thing.
But I think what came as a surprise to me was this, was the way that the style of writing felt so similar, even the way that the kind of, yeah, you're coming along with this sort of bird's eye view.
It felt like, in the absence of YouTube, in the absence of vloggers, this is what the Victorians had to do instead.
But also, it sounds like he's going up and he's just knocking on strangers' houses and he's recording how naturally alarmed and confused they are.
Hello, knock, knock, hello, are you supposed to be here?
Now, here's another extract from an autumn evening in Whitechapel.
This is from the periodical Little's Living Age.
Turn down this side street, out of the main Whitechapel Road.
It may be well to tuck out of view any bit of jewelry that may be glittering about.
The sight of means to do ill deeds makes ill deeds done.
The street is oppressively dark, though at present the gloom is relieved somewhat by feebly lighted shopfronts.
Men are lounging at the doors of the shops, smoking evil-smelling pipes.
Women with bare hands and with arms under their aprons are sauntering about in twos and threes, or seated gossiping on steps leading into passages dark as Eremus.
Now, round the corner into another still gloomier passage.
For there are no shops here to speak of.
This is notorious Wentworth Street.
The police used to make a point of going through this only in couples and possibly may do so still when they go there at all.
Just now, there are none met with.
It is getting on into the night, but gutters and doorways and passages and staircases appear to be teeming with children.
I love it.
This is like a whole genre of like, I go outside and I'm scared.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
See there in that doorway of a house without a glimmer of light about it?
It looks like to be a baby in long clothes, laid on the floor of the passage and seemingly exhausted with crying.
Listen for a moment.
At this next house, there was a scuffle going on upon the staircase, all in the densest darkness.
And before you have passed a dozen yards, there is a rush down the stairs and an outsurging into the street with fighting and screaming and an outpouring of such horrible black guardism that it makes you shudder as you look at those curly-headed, preternaturally sharp-witted children who leave their play to gather round the melee.
God help the little mortals.
How can they become anything but savages, quote, pests of society, and quote, dangerous classes and so on?
How black and unutterably gloomy all the houses look.
How infinitely all the moral and physical wretchedness of such localities as these, intensified by the darkness of the streets and the houses.
Well, I really, I'm very curious what these children said to him that caused this author to label them preternaturally sharp-witted.
Yeah, that's true.
It's like they're born with scathing tongues.
It's like I walk about and these children, they have such nasty words for me.
They instantly identified my boldness and my fatness.
And my oldness.
Very quick to note my age.
Old.
Yeah, it was just that bit from Peep Show where Mark gets bullied by the children.
Yeah.
In fact, it seemed that by 1889, Whitechapel was already so notorious that the author Arthur G. Morrison wrote that writers were essentially competing with one another to see who could write the most sensationalist account of the area's lurid depravity, all without ever having set foot in the place.
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A dozen graphically written descriptions of Whitechapel by people who have never seen the place, but have heard as much about it as most have, would probably be as amusing in the reading, to those acquainted with the district, as the most extravagant of the fables once so frequently quoted as articles of current French belief in the matter of English manners and customs ever were to the English people themselves.
A horrible black labyrinth, think many people, swarming with human vermin, whose trade is robbery and whose recreation is murder.
The catacombs of London darker, more torturous, and more dangerous than those of Rome, and supersaturated with foul life.
Others imagine Whitechapel in a pitiful aspect.
Outcast London, black and nasty still, a wilderness of crazy dens into which pallid wastrels crawl to die, where several families lie in each fetid room and fathers, mothers, and children watch each other starve.
Such spots as these there certainly are in Whitechapel and in other places, but generalities are rarely true.
And when applied to the district of London so large as that comprised under the name of Whitechapel, never.
Yeah, I think it's just always such a nice feeling when you read something written over a hundred years ago and can just completely relate to what the author's thinking and feeling as he writes it.
It kind of just seems to me that Morrison, like me, is basically going here, yes, the place has its problems, but can everyone just please calm down?
But no, I think, yeah, I think he really nailed the tabloid-y kind of like aspect of this kind of writing, where it's like it's not meant to like highlight general problems.
Like, it's meant to like sell basically, you know, content or articles, or it's designed to titillate and you know, instill a bit of like lurid fear in the reader rather than actually inform.
These are my favourite kind of QA episodes where there's something that we're like, oh, things are getting worse, but then you do like a bunch of research and you're like, oh, it's always been bad.
Yeah, no, completely.
It's sort of just the technology changes, but some of that kind of human impulse really remains the same.
Yeah.
Now, being fair to those Victorian writers, most of them were pretty passionate reformers who I believe were trying to bring about change to benefit some of the poorest and most vulnerable people in society.
London was both the beating heart of the richest empire on earth and home to dramatic wealth inequality.
And there was something noble about wanting to shake up the comfortable classes with a brutal reminder of how desperate many of their neighbours' lives were.
On the other hand, there's no doubt that many played fast and loose with journalistic ethics in order to do so.
Notoriously, W.T. Steed, in his expose on child sex trafficking, literally bought, drugged, and kidnapped a 13-year-old girl in order to prove how easy it was to do that.
And looking back at many of these writings, it's clear that there were two impulses working together in the prose: a sincere desire to educate and inform, yes, but as he pointed out, Travis, to titillate.
This was the era of commercial slum tourism, where wealthy Londoners would pay tickets for midnight tours on omnibuses, which took them round some of the most deprived parts of the city to gawk at their inhabitants, a hobby that became known as slumming.
As an activity, slumming probably did inspire real feelings of sympathy and charity towards the less fortunate, but it also turned real people's lives into something of a horror story to consume at a safe distance.
It feels to me like there's something similar going on with Travel YouTube's exploration of urban poverty and crime.
I don't think we can pretend that any of the people we've mentioned hold any of the same noble ideals as the Victorian writers.
Insofar as I've seen any of them demand reform, it's been about as cogent and sophisticated as kick out all the migrants.
But as crass and ill-informed as their content might be, I do think these vloggers are capitalising on what I believe to be humanity's greatest asset, our curiosity.
Wanting to understand how other people live, especially those in places we don't know much about or can't easily reach, is not a bad instinct.
In fact, it's quite a nice one.
Most people who click on travel videos promising to show them the real truth about a place are probably acting in good faith.
Many of us can't travel as much as we'd like to, we're constrained by money, work, family, or just time.
Watching someone wander through a city we've never been to, even in a sensational, click-driven format, can feel like the closest available substitute for being there ourselves.
And that's why I find comments under the London Has Fallen video so revealing, because they often express the opposite impulse, a total shutting down of curiosity.
Pretty much every video I watched, I'd read the comments and see variations on the same sentiment over and over again.
I always used to dream of visiting London, now I'd never want to go.
These channels promise access and insight, a closer look at the wider world, but many appear to have found that it's in fact more lucrative to flatten that world down and render it unworthy of further interest.
You know, I think it's interesting how like a lot of complaints about like Instagram content for years is that portrayed as this kind of like eternally traveling lifestyle where you just see exotic things and it's like is designed to like inspire a bit of envy in sort of the people who follow the feeds.
Whereas like all was like, oh man, I really want to go that and see these places and live the life that these people are living.
But yeah, this is strange because it's the exact opposite kind of content.
Where it's designed to inspire like, yeah, a kind of shutting down.
Sort of like it reinforces the idea that like, oh, I'm glad I'm not there.
I'm glad I'm not with these people.
This really, really dampens my interest of ever visiting this place.
It's, yeah, sort of like this weird sort of like travel that's designed to inspire revulsion in the places that are being documented.
And just another reason to hate, you know, groups or people of a certain color, religion that you already didn't like anyways.
You know, if it ever comes down to it and, you know, you're radicalized, like the fact that they ruined your chances of a beautiful like London vacation is like another reason that you can add to your list of like, you know, what these people have like quote unquote taken from you.
So it's just, it's, it's another, it's like another, just like, I don't know, like notch to go like, I don't know, down one level of anger and feed and just keep feeding that.
Yeah, I think you really hit the nail on the head a little bit earlier, Jake.
I can't quite remember how you said it, but you kind of talked about the way that this content, the way it's almost kind of reassuring the viewer in a strange way that it's fine that you don't get to see these places because they're terrible anyway.
They're all hellholes.
That it sort of provides this kind of justification, I guess, for not going anywhere.
Yeah, it's kind of like you're talking about Travis.
It's almost like there were problems with the aspirational travel influencer stuff too.
But it maybe in a way feels a bit nicer than this.
Yeah, and this also, like, I think it doesn't cost, like, it doesn't cost anything to fly to London and like plan to go to the Indy, you know, where, what was the street where all of the like good Indian restaurants were?
Brick Lane.
Yeah, Bricks Lane and be like, okay, we'll go there for like two hours and like, you know, we'll say our shit and then bounce.
Like you're not exploring the city.
I think they're going there to make the content that they know they want to publish.
I guess I'm saying it's scripted and the interactions with real people are also scripted in the same way that like Jackass, where that's like such an unky comparison, but like where the members of the public don't know that they're unwilling actors in, you know, sort of furthering whatever narrative the content creator is trying to sort of ride on.
It seems to me that this genre forecloses on any real understanding of the places it claims to represent.
It takes complex, living urban communities where overlapping cultures have always lived alongside one another and reduces them to simple rage bait.
Much like Victorian slumming, it invites viewers to look just long enough to feel a jolt of shock or disgust or superiority and then to move on.
For me, learning about other countries and cultures has always made the world feel so much more interesting and complicated.
And you'd hope that effect would multiply in the information age, where we enjoy a historically unprecedented access to other people's realities.
Instead, these YouTube entrepreneurs seem to be using that access to achieve the exact opposite.
These kinds of episodes also remind me of like some of the optimistic promises of the internet in the 90s that were just never realized.
Like, oh, we're going to like make the world so much smaller because we're going to be able to understand each other because we're going to be able to connect so much more easily.
But I think we've seen like in many cases, including this one, you know, the internet just is just as easily be used as a tool to make people, you know, more xenophobic and fearful.
Fascinating episode.
And I will say, if you like this kind of content that's very, you know, well researched and insightful, you should also check out Truly Tradley Deeply on Curse Media.
Andy, what was it like working on that series?
Yeah, it was really nice being able just to take the time to fully just dive into this world that I have been kind of following for a long time of Tradwives who started out, I think, as quite a small, quite niche subculture, which was very collected to the far right and has now kind of spun out into a kind of whole genre, I would say, and the sort of different factions within it.
And it was really fun, me and my fellow researcher, Megan Kelly, really got to tease out, I think, all of those kind of intricacies that happen within the subculture and all of the various debates around things like motherhood and femininity and purity.
But yeah, no, please, please do go and listen to it because we put a lot of work into it and I'm really proud of it as a series.
Check it out.
It's the Cursed Media.
I'll put the link in the show notes.
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So yeah, nobody's going to tell me that I can't film today.
Right, guys, this is it.
This is Oxford Street.
The infamous Oxford Street with the beautiful British flags draped over.
Rule Britannia, the most infamous street in the UK where about 18 phone snatches happen a day.
18 phone snatches, guys.
So that happens when people are walking along the street, looking at their phone, not paying attention, and a phone snatcher drives by, a Balaclava ninja on a e-bike, drives by and snatches their phone.
That happens almost 20 times a day on this street.
So it's already kicked off.
The emergency services are out and about.
I feel a certain energy in the air.
Like something's brewing.
Might be from the two-tier policing, who knows?
You and I were just discussing how you're in the UK.
He knows a lot of the crime that goes on to all the pickpockets, all the drug dealers, etc.
Yet the police don't take action.
And I said, oh, it's because they're too busy enforcing mean tweets, arresting people for tweets on X. Facebook as well.
And Instagram.
So this is number one priority in two-tier Cheers Britain.
You go to truth on social media to need very careful.
That's correct.
A lot of nonsense.
Is that so?
Do you want to rephrase a little bit, madam?
Why do you think so?
If you're going to chime in, I'd like an extra comment there.
All right.
Have a good day.
Have a great day.
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